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[Music] crry [Music] last year True Crime garage received a letter that read in part I live in one
of those small NYC suburbs where crime is predominantly of the property variety and murder is extremely rare but on a
Monday morning and September of 2007 a beloved Postman in our community was killed in his third floor walkup
apartment the victim Steven Spina was a young and friendly single dad the facts are somewhat cut and dry his onag again
off again girlfriend left him alone in his apartment when she headed to work it was Steven's day off and when he didn't
respond to his girlfriend's text about a lunch date she returned to his apartment
midday and found Steven stabbed to death no arrests have ever been made in this case where Steven lived is a small town
the kind of town where most people know each other step grew up here and was friends with most of the people in town
and knew or was friends with most of the people on his mail route in fact Steven
was good friends with one of the detectives original assigned to his case and now a new Cold Case detective has
been assigned to Steven's case thank you again for taking a look at this true crime garage has such a large following
I really believe it might help Advance Steven's case if you guys would cover it thanks again Suzanne after reading
Suzanne's letter we of course got on the internet to see what if anything could be found about Steven Spina there were a
few internet stories covering the case then we found an interview with his daughter Skyler and watching her
interview we both knew right then and there we had to cover this case this is true crime garage and this is the still
unsolved case of Steven [Music] Spina [Music] Sunday September 16th 2007 I would be
willing to make a handsome wager that on that Sunday night 36-year-old Stephen Patrick Spina when he went to bed and
the head went to pillow he was probably smiling and looking forward to Monday morning
stepen had every reason to believe that that Monday would be a great day that night his girlfriend Tamara was staying
the night at his apartment Stephen had Monday off from work and in the morning his girlfriend would take off for work
and then she would be joining Stephen for a lunch date after lunch Stephen had his favorite event scheduled for the
evening taking his daughter to the New York Yankees baseball game now Steven played and participated in
some form of baseball for almost his entire life and it had to be a dream come true for him to share his love of
the game with the love of his life his 12-year-old daughter Skyler it was the middle of September and that meant that
the Yankees were still fighting to keep their October MLB playoff hopes alive that Monday evening the Yankees were
playing Baltimore unfortunately they never went to the game someone killed Steven Spina that morning in his
apartment now Captain let's go through what is known about this still unsolved homicide case well like the colonel said
it was a Monday morning but Steven was a mail carrier so it was actually his day
off this is a brief description from projectc case.org they have several news articles from Steven's case on their
website which are interesting to check out if you have the extra time now the facts are as follows on Monday September
17th 2007 Steven Spina was stabbed to death in his mamin New York apartment there were no signs of forced entry into
the apartment nothing was reported to have been stolen from the home it is very likely that stepen knew his killer
he was last seen by a neighbor at approximately 9:30 a.m. that morning and he was found deceased by his girlfriend
around 12:30 p.m. detectives raised a number of leads including information about Steven's tires being slashed not
long before his murder also investigated were tips regarding prior relationships
of Stevens and his girlfriend now let's fill in the blanks here if we can as we know Captain the injuries that are
reported is that unfortunately our victim was stabbed multiple times here there is
evidence that this crime is personal the evidence and the crime seen suggests that this was a personal cause homicide
the weapon itself to the Public's knowledge the weapon identified simply as a knife has never been found evidence
at the scene suggests that the killer brought the weapon with them to the crime scene and again the apartment was
not ransacked and nothing was stolen well and like we said Steven was a male carrier and he had a different schedule
than most people so the fact that he was off on a Monday and killed on the day he
would have been off it's most likely that the killer knew step because he would had to know that Steven would have
been home that day yes and you're exactly right there Captain I believe that that is a significant clue in this
case so a couple things we discussed that the apartment's not robbed there doesn't appear to be anything of
significant value missing from the apartment when the detectives are searching through the scene the other
thing though too is this is a third floor apartment it's not like somebody just stumbles in off of the street and
attacks this guy in his apartment again no signs of forced entry so did Stephen let the person or persons into his
apartment that day around noon and you're exactly right regarding his schedule so that Monday September 17th
stevenh was off from work he's a postal carrier in Larchmont which from my understanding the way that his schedule
works it's quite different from most people's work schedules it's not the typical Monday through Friday 9 to5 type
of gig Stephen was off on Sundays every Sunday he had off now his other day off each week would be a rotating day for
example on this week he is off on Monday well the following week he would be off
on Tuesday and then Wednesday and then Thursday and so on and then this pattern repeats itself so on this particular day
he's off from work this has to be some kind of clue here because not so many people would just know that he would be
off on this particular day that he would be home if somebody had a beef with him
or or somebody had a reason to go to his apartment and attack and kill him well then that person very likely knew
and had prior knowledge that he was off that day definitely the area itself this
mamin is a small town in fact it's the the village of mamin Steven's girlfriend they had been together on and off for
about two years right is my understanding at the time of this homicide now on that day she had stayed
the night at Steven's apartment the night before which was pretty common from from my understanding and she goes
off to work she works nearby this is about maybe a 10-minute Drive well she is texting Stephen
because they had plans for a lunch date that day when he doesn't respond to those text she decides well I better go
to the apartment and check on him make sure he didn't lose his phone make sure everything's okay she gets to the
apartment this is the tricky thing here no Force entry into the apartment but when the girlfriend Tamara arrives at
the apartment the door is locked so she has to get the super and convince the super to let her into the apartment
which she successfully does when she goes in then she finds Stephen having been stabbed to death in
the apartment she calls 911 again small town so a very quick response time we have police and First Responders on the
scene very quickly after she arrives back at the apartment that day well with no sign of force entry and the door
being locked when they arrive it makes you wonder what kind of lock was on the door yeah it's difficult to say I don't
know the exact specifications of the lock or the door itself other than to know that it required a key for her to
get in when she found him that day the current detective which we did speak with is not the original detective that
was there on the scene that day but that that would be interesting to know Captain how did the killer one gain
access to the apartment and two then leave having left the door locked behind them now there's key things at this
crime scene that we need to talk about so the weapon again described as a knife there's evidence and things at the scene
that suggest that the killer brought the weapon with them to the crime scene the knife has
never been found we've never actually received information or it's never been released to the public how many times
step was stabbed and there's details about this crime scene and details about the attack and his injuries that have
never been released to the public so here we have the police holding back a good bit of
information with the understanding of a few things that we believe that there was no forced entry to the home the
weapon was brought to the scene there's also some things at the scene captain that it's a difficult scene for for
police right this would be a pretty violent struggle mhm Steph was in good shape he was 36 years old he would not
be easy to take down so one thing that we might have to consider here is the possibility of more than one person
present or more than one person involved in the actual attack on Stephen there that day in his apartment police aren't
willing to say one way or the other if it was two people or one person that was there they do believe though that it's
likely that there is some kind of involvement here where we have a situation where either somebody else
knows what somebody did and who killed Steven or may have even had some knowledge at the time prior to this
attack think about his employment he's a male carrier so he is walking routes and
carrying the bags of mail so like you said good shape and on his off time he would umpire Little League games so this
guy has a active life like you said there is a good possibility there was more than one attacker yes police
certainly not ruling out that possibility now one of the items that is of significant evidence here in this
case is that a size 11 bootprint was found at the scene and to be perfectly clear here Captain this bootprint had to
take place either during the attack or just after the attack so this person whoever this bootprint belongs to is
directly involved in the crime it's a bloody bootprint so it's a suspect bootprint that was found at the scene it
has been reported that it's possibly a Timberland brand boot but to be perfectly honest here it's my
understanding that the print itself while comparing it to other boots that the Timberland boot most fits or best
fits this possible shoe pattern or the the sole of the boot itself right there are a couple of other brands that in
similar styles that could not be 100% ruled out so while police are leaning on the idea that this is a Timberland brand
boot it's certainly not 100% that it has to be a Timberland brand one thing that's very weird about this case too is
that there had been some vandalism done prior to Steven's murder you have to look at this
situation and go okay is this directly connected to the case or is it not so Stephen had a white Nissan stanza which
is like a small sedan and he would park this vehicle out on the street typically in front of the
apartment building his tires were slashed approximately two months prior to his murder now this is very weird and
of course this is going to jump right off the page to everybody for significant reasons one this was a
personal cause homicide this was something that was somebody had a beef with Stephen and and and attacked him in
his apartment well that goes right hand inand with somebody vandalizing his vehicle and then when we talk about him
being stabbed to death en Tire slash well possibly a similar style weapon or the same weapon used here in the
vandalism and then later in the the homicide well when first looking into this case I thought oh that's that's
crazy is is it possible that just one of his tires were slashed and maybe it was an accident or
maybe you know you got a flat tire I I have known some people that actually had a flat tire that were convinced that
somebody slashed their tire but no in this scenario Stephen had all four of his tires slashed and this was reported
to police at the time right and what's interesting here is while we don't know 100% who slashed his tires when talking
with detectives they believe that they know who who slashed the tires so the way
that the the portion of this story goes is when Steph reports this of course the
first thing they ask him is going to be do you have any idea who would who would
do this to you you know was this was this random was this some teenagers out pulling a prank or was this somebody
that uh you're having a problem with and he named a person to the detectives and
said this individual we've been having issues and I believe that it was this person that slashed my tires he's basing
this off of verbal altercations that he's had with an individual as well as threats that were made when we say
threats I don't know the extent of those threats Captain I don't know if this person threatened his life or threatened
him with bodily harm or threatened to slash his tires but whatever the threats were and whatever the verbal
altercations were that took place this is what led stepen to telling police hey my tires were slashed I'm I'm filing a
report and I believe it was this person now now Steven was a a very popular individual he grew up in this area this
is a small town the village of MC is a small smaller town in fact I want to say it was about 28,000 27,000 would be the
population around the time of his murder but he grew up in this town and this is
the kind of town where you knew most of the people in town and then given his job his occupation out there on his mail
ma route he knew most of the people on his mail route as well in that nearby lchm and his mail route from my
understanding Captain work like this and this is pretty typic typical once you get a route you don't get rotated on and
off of that route frequently you stay on that route for a good deal of time and like I said he's 36 years old he's got
years in on the job so he's had this route for a considerable amount of time he knows a lot of people in the area
from having grown up there and his occupation as you pointed out he umpires baseball games and volunteers with the
youth in the community coaching baseball and being a part of softball in the community so he knows a lot of people
and he's a popular guy he's well-liked but I think this kind of shows his personality a little bit too
when he reports the tires being slashed and then tells police hey this is the person I believe believe did it he tells
the police you know it's not a big deal I just wanted to have it reported you don't need to go talk to this person
which of course they did in fact my understanding is this they don't go and talk to the person because of the
requests that they get from Stephen at the time when he reports the vandalism but of course after the murder they go
and speak with this individual yeah if somebody slash my tires I'm going to go take a [ __ ] in their sandwich the other
thing now this could be directly connected or it could have nothing to do with anything at all here Captain but we
can't we can't just not discuss this next item his girlfriend's windshield was smashed and I don't have
an exact date for this but it's my understanding that this this vandalism took place before step's tires were
slashed and Steven's tires on his white Nissan stanza were slashed approximately
two months prior to the homicide yeah another interesting point to this case you have vandalism to Steven's car then
you have vandalism that happened before that to his girlfriend's car and you wonder if those are connected and if
those are connected then maybe they're connected to his murder I don't know if the windshield being smashed was
reported to police I don't know if if it was if it was the same scenario where it
was believed to be a person that they knew that they could could say hey and suggest we think it was this person who
who did this MH but in a strange twist in this case police tell us tell the captain and the colonel that we have
three to five individuals while we're not really ruling anybody out we've not officially cleared anybody publicly in
the case we have three to five individuals that have separated themselves from everybody else and when
we say separated themselves we mean they've put themselves on a short list of suspects here in this
case three to five individuals the strange twist is the individual that is believed to have
slashed the tires did not make it onto that short list of individuals that the police are interested in for Steven
Spa's case now I don't know what you found or what you were told but again when you're looking into this case and
you hear that Steven's car was vandalized four tires slashed obviously with a knife and he was murdered with a
knife you go red flag well it could have been a box cutter or I mean we don't know exactly what was used for the for
the slashing of the tires but yes you're right it's a sharp weapon similar something it immediately you jump when
you hear of the the knife attack and you hear of the tires being slashed you immediately make that leap and go these
two things have to be connected we say it all the time the timelines are so important and in this case it's even
more important because we have such a small window so you'd have to have an alibi for that small window well and
that's exactly the scenario here Captain we have but a threeh hour window when this murder had to have taken place and
therefore if you go and you speak to suspect number one in the tire slashing incident and you can confirm that this
individual was at work or was in another town or was somewhere where you have a lock down solid Alibi for this person
then this person doesn't make it onto that short list of suspects and I'm guessing knowing the amount of people
that police spoke to in the the amount of people that were investigated in this case that that is what separated this
individual and did not put them on that short list of suspects which would be frustrating if your law enforcement you
think you have a really good lead and then you realize if the glove don't fit you must
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cheers thank you so much for listening thanks for telling a friend thanks for sharing these cases on social media
cheers to you car cheers to you Captain cheers to all the people out there in listener land now this case is
incredibly difficult for a couple of reasons it's one a little difficult to tell the story because we have that
holdback information that is not providing a whole lot of details about the crime scene itself we have been told
by law enforcement that this was a complicated crime scene and that they've had some some setbacks with it they are
going through the testing or retesting process we should say there is a significant amount of physical evidence
that was collected at Steven's apartment that evidence is being retested they're
hoping to learn new information based off of those tests and that will be taking place within the next couple of
weeks so we could be getting some big news here in Stephen's case but without that big news or without somebody coming
forward with additional information the way that this case looks now it's sitting there and it's it's pretty cold
with the exception of the retesting of the evidence well at least there's some movement and hopefully those tests give
us some kind of answer well in this area this mck is a it's a village it's a small town as I said earlier we're
looking at about 28 29,000 people in 2007 the state of New York's homicide rate is lower than the national average
the village of mamin homicide rate is well below that of the state of New York in fact most years the village of mamin
experiences zero homicides and because of this as you can imagine Captain there are very few unsolved homicides left on
the books currently they have three so this is personal when you have this type of scenario this is personal for the
detectives and for the police department itself currently in 2023 they only have three unsolved
homicides it's the kind of situation where you have the entire detective Bureau you have the entire police force
everyone from the police chief all the way down through the ranks to the rookie cop all of them here knows every one of
them knows of the three unsolved homicides that you have left here in mic there's a female torso that washed up in
M Marin there's a male victim that was murdered in the 90s and then you have Steven spena case the well-liked mail
carrier that everybody knew so you have a lot of individuals with the vested interest in solving this case because it
is a community it's a crime against the community and Stephen was one of the Beloved members of that Community
currently there's a $40,000 reward for information in this case some of that is coming from by the
way of the family and some of that comes by the way of Crim Stoppers like you said Steven lived on the third floor so
do we have any more information about that location yes like I said here Captain most years experiencing no
homicides in the area so the crime rate rather low it's mostly property crimes in this area Stephen owned a third floor
walkup Co-op apartment at the mck Gardens apartment complex and it looks like this this is a freestanding red
brick Garden style apartment his building was between Palmer Avenue and Boston Post Road and located at 300
richbell Road and as we said Stephen lived there technically he lived there alone to complicate things a little bit
we have his girlfriend Tamara who from my understanding they've been on again off again for about two years at this
point in their relationship everything's going great this is one of the the high
points of their relationship everything's going good they're getting along very well and she is staying most
nights at his apartment now as said Stephen is also a father he's separated from his daughter's mother and his
daughter Skyler she has her own bedroom at his apartment and Stephen had a rule that he was pretty strict about he did
not have his girlfriend stay the night on the same nights that his daughter stayed the night his daughter's mother
is not on that short list is not a person that has separated themselves from everybody else police are satisfied
with all of the information that they've received from her in fact it's well noted and well known in the community
the relationship between Stephen and his ex it was it was a very good relationship
and they had a very good setup as far as shared custody of Skyler went that a a schedule that was working for both of
them on both ends and also keep in mind this is not like a a recent separation or a recent split up this was a
situation that they had been in for years prior to the homicide this wasn't the only ex of Steven that law
enforcement talked to and it it seemed like all of his ex-girlfriends had good things to say about Steph and there
didn't seem that there was any bad blood between any of his exes that's exactly right that that any time that he had a
separation that for the most part people stayed friends and people still liked each other after they parted ways I
think the suspicion here then falls into the category of the person who slashed the tires right this person as we know
is not on that short list for police but you're going to have individuals Stephen
was a popular guy he had been in and out of some different relationships and there is some thought that
maybe this all has to do with jealousy that somebody that was either in a relationship with Stephen or was
involved with somebody who was in a relationship with Stephen at some point that this that this may have to do with
one of those relationships some type of Love Triangle that is believed to be the case
here in this situation that that whoever attacked Stephen had personal cause to do so we talked about that bootprint
that was found at the scene now it sounds like no unknown fingerprints were found at the scene and the scene was
pretty bloody that's the best description I can give to you the the bootprint was a side 11 there that's
That's a hardcore fact right there they're not saying 11 and A2 they're not saying 10 and A2 no they know the size
of this bootprint they believe that it's possibly from a Timberland style boot our victim was stabbed multiple times
but again nothing was missing from this third floor apartment this small garden style apartment one of the things I
can't get over is a couple months before his murder his tires were slashed is it
possible that Stephen told the police I think this is who did it but it was actually somebody else well and because
this is a suburb of New York City I'm envisioning this situation captain and and very much thinking about Law and
Order right where you okay you got the cops now we we have a a victim here a homicide victim here the detectives are
out they're going to go talk to this person who Steven believes slashed his tires and I'm kind of picturing this
and it goes like this where the guy goes yeah I slashed the tires but I I didn't
kill anybody we've all seen that scene before or similar scene on on something like
Law and Order right but what I've been told here from the detectives that have work this case the individual that they
spoke to that Steve had pointed them toward never admitted to slashing the tires and certainly didn't admit to
killing Steven Spina what their belief is they believe that Steven was probably correct about the vandalism that he had
picked the right person and they have reasons for backing that up we can't prove it you're exactly right we can't
prove it 100% but I think that if the detectives were actually getting paid to solve the vandalism incident that they
probably would be able to solve it however they're working a homicide and again while they're satisfied that
they've identified the person that that may be responsible for the vandal ISM they're saying that person is not on
their short list of suspects well one of the things that really frustrates me about this case is you would assume that
the killer would have some blood on him where are the eyewitnesses that saw a man with blood where is the security
footage maybe from the apartment complex or a local store I mean this is a small
town that would have multiple cameras why didn't we get somebody on security footage well and that's just the problem
here we don't have that IE witness and so where we have a situation where the time of day very likely can clue you
into who should be a suspect and who should not be a suspect it also in some weird way works toward the advantage of
the killer because it's a Monday and most people are busy they're off at work they're out doing their thing there's
not a lot of not a lot of eyeballs just scanning the neighborhood watching what's going on one set of eyeballs was
a neighbor person that saw Steven go out to his car around 9:30 a.m. that morning
this person while we said almost nobody has been publicly cleared this person is
not a suspect and there's no evidence to that this person should be a suspect in
fact this information is helpful to the investigation and this person came forward so now we're dealing with a very
short window of only three hours hours a lot of people have suggested maybe the girlfriend his current girlfriend at the
time should be a suspect and of course she was certainly looked at here in this case police have not said if she's a
suspect or not they've certainly not publicly named his girlfriend as a suspect people are suspicious of her
because she lawyered up but there's there's a little more information than just girlfriend finds boyfriend dead and
then lawyers up she didn't lawyer up until about 3 or 4 months after and she was very Cooperative with police and
detectives early on in their investigation and when I asked the detective I said you know some people
think that it's suspicious that this girlfriend switched from being cooperative to not cooperative and then
lawyers up the detective wasn't going to offer up personal feelings or opinions about that but was very open and honest
when saying look it's not uncommon in our investigations for somebody to cooperate for a period of
time and then get a lawyer and be less Cooperative or not cooperate at all so while this may look suspicious to Joe
public out there this doesn't look so suspicious to the detectives that are actively investigating this homicide
well you can also get a lawyer from the beginning and also be cooperative with police I just wonder if there's another
reason why she ended up getting a lawyer is it possible that they were asking her
if there was anybody suspicious in her past and maybe she was getting fearful that she was giving too much information
well sometimes people get scared and that could be the situation here it's it's difficult to say I would love for
her to explain to us her thoughts on it but if she's not talking to detective she's likely not going to talk to us two
guys here in the garage oh come on why not we could offer a lawn chair or a nice cold beverage when we say some
people get scared we know that Skyler his daughter chooses not to live in this area and that is in large part because
the person that killed Stephen has not been identified not been arrested it's one of those tricky cases where you have
some people on the outside that look good and then you get to talking to detectives who have worked this case
very diligently they're telling you that look while we've we've not publicly named
suspects we have three to five that have separated themselves from everybody else
and the person that we believe that slashed at tires is not on that list his daughter's mother not on that list it
doesn't sound like the the girlfriend that his girlfriend at the time was on that list either it sounds to me like
they were interested in some other persons and again they can't rule out they're not saying was this one person
or two people that were at the crime scene when Steven was killed so there's a lot of meat left on the bone here a
lot more information that is needed to take a good strong look at his case what what's interesting too when you go back
to the vandalism incident is Stephen says that while he believes this person slashed
his tires I assume that that meant that he this was a a jealous ex of Steven's current girlfriend or maybe Steven was
involved with somebody that this person that may have slashed his tires was involved with it's my understanding that
while that might have been a suspicion of this individual that Steven told police at the time he was not involved
with what whatever this person suspected him of Stephen had not done he had not had a relationship or or whatever this
individual that slashed his tires believe Stephen had done or whatever he was mad at him for Steven told
detectives that he did not do that he didn't have any involvement in that well I know there's a lot of Suspicion around
on his girlfriend but she didn't work that far from the apartment but she was at work so you'd think that they would
know where she was at at the time of the murders she works about five to maybe 10
minutes drive from the apartment right and from what we've been told is they don't have any evidence to suggest that
she wasn't where she said she was that morning right uh so that would be at work again a lot of the the answers here
and a lot of the information that is public in this case is vague and it's purposely done that way to keep some of
the information vague there's clearly something here in this case that police are aware of that only the killer or
Killers would would know and that's the information that they are protecting and
that is what will ultimately lead them to an arrest the interesting thing to me is that we already have some individuals
that have been separated from the of the herd MH as suspects again they've not publicly cleared anybody not publicly
naming any suspects I would be willing to wager $100 here captain that there are people that they've air quotes
cleared in their investigation they're not going to go out of their way to publicly clear those individuals they're
looking for information they're they're still requesting information from the public they will be retesting physical
evidence at the murder scene that will be retested again this year very soon and that could come back with some
information and yield some Clues to really shrink that list of five potential suspects down to the two that
did it or down to the one that did it at that point we might have winter winter chicken dinner and they might have some
DNA that they're able to test or some even touch DNA you take somebody that was ex-boyfriend of his current
girlfriend and and place them at the scene they shouldn't be in his apartment and there what there is one individual
in particular that has not been named but has moved away from the area that is of concern that has further complicated
the murder investigation and police just want to remind everybody that there is no tip that is too small in this case as
we said this is an area that experiences zero homicides most years and in fact they only have three unsolved homicides
still on the books step Spa's 2007 case is one of those three homicides that is still unsolved everybody on the force is
aware of Steven's case he was a popular guy friendly guy well-liked in fact one of the detectives that was originally
assigned to the case was very good friends with stepen Spina so well Colonel I don't know if you've been on
Reddit this week but we have become Reddit famous again one of the listeners was pointing out in the Browns Chicken
massacure case how we seem to be champion this hold back information but then in other cases we haven't been
champions of law enforcement holding back so much information well I think that every case is unique and certainly
it gets tough to really have a strong opinion on the finer details of those cases until you know what the specifics
are yes it's it's difficult because there are cases that you look at it and you go why are they still holding back
this information why won't they release more information and in fact in step's case I I look at that this case and go I
think that it may be helpful to have more info out there on this case however I don't know what that information is so
detectives know what that information is and they're looking at it and they are deciding okay will this help us identify
the person that that killed Steven Spina if the answer is no then there's no reason to release that information so
just like in the deli case one thing that the police were clear on here was they were saying the way that the girls
were killed is not going to to help us identify the man that was seen on the bridge that day that it's not helpful to
the investigation things here in this case that are helpful are things like the murder weapon was it brought to the
scene did you find find the murder weapon the answers to those questions yes we believe it was brought to the
scene by the Killer and no we've not recovered the murder weapon that is helpful information the number of times
that that Steven was actually stabed doesn't help us identify the killer at all so again it goes back to the idea of
what is that information every case is unique all evidence is unique to their cases and you have to review them one at
a time when you review something at like the Amy mahalic case and they come out with information and they telling
telling you something 27 years after the fact on something that's very a one of a
almost a oneof a kind item they're asking for for the potential owner of a particular item well that yes it's
helpful to identifying the the potential killer or the suspect in the Amy mahalic
case however you're asking the public for their help on something that is 27 years old right and so I think you can
look at each situation and you can have a difference of opinion on should they be releasing more or are fans of holding
back the information in the Browns case it appeared very necessary there were a couple of items that they were convinced
that that that only the killers were going to know that case we saw how it panned out they ended up getting more
than one confession from persons that they did not try that they did not arrest they did not charge with the
murders that hold back information separated the confessions of the killers from the confessions of people that they
just really look they they got they got aggressive with them and they got confessions from people that they were
interviewing those confessions weren't correct and they knew that based off of that hold back information well I didn't
see the question on Reddit but somebody emailed it to me but it is a good question no that's a very good question
that's a very good question well very good question but I think a very good answer all these cases are so unique
they're almost like individuals fingerprints well and to segue this back into Steven's case look at the bootprint
that's something that's very specific that's something that we it's a size 11 someone at the crime scene someone that
was present during the attack and during the murder could be the murderer themselves has a size 11 shoe a size 11
bootprint that information was released to the public that is something that can
help help identify the killer one thing that would be great and I really wish that they would be able to sort this out
is if they could come out and definitively say I think it's very responsible of them to be saying it the
way that they are but it would be great if they would be able to sort this out and definitively say yes that came from
a Timberland brand boot they can't do that because there there's a couple of other bootprints that are so similar
that they're saying we believe it's a Timberland but we can't rule out one or two other possibilities here so that is
a an an identifier and so when we talk about hold back information here we have a good piece of information that could
identify the Killer and that being the size of their shoe right again there's no tip that's too small detectives are
welcoming any and all tips and information if you have any information regarding the murder of Steven Spina and
mck New York please contact the village of M Mar detective Bureau at 914 825 8541 or you can call the New York State
Crim Stoppers tip line at 866 313 tis there is a reward totaling $40,000 for information that directly leads to
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On a Monday morning in January of 2007 a beloved postman was killed in his 3rd floor apartment. Stephen Spina was found in his apartment midday by his girlfriend and the building superintendent. There is a reward in this case for information that directly leads to the arrest and conviction of the person(s) responsible. If you have any information regarding the murder of Stephen Spina in Mamaroneck, New York please contact the VOMPD’s Detective bureau at 914-825-8541 or New York state crime stoppers at 866-313-TIPS.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the unsolved murder of mail carrier Stephen Spina in 2007, exploring evidence and potential suspects.

Key points

The Unsolved Case of Steven Spina. A beloved postman was found murdered in his apartment, and no arrests have been made.
A Personal Crime. Evidence suggests that Steven's murder was personal, with no signs of forced entry.
The Importance of Timelines. Timelines play a crucial role in connecting evidence and suspects in the investigation.
A Community's Burden. With only three unsolved homicides, the community feels the weight of this case.
Detectives Seek New Evidence. Retesting of physical evidence could yield new leads in the cold case.
The Importance of Information Release. Detectives discuss the necessity of holding back certain information in investigations.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

No arrests have ever been made in this case.

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