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unfortunately was not the first time Illinois had experienced such a tragedy you have the St Valentine's Day Massacre
which occurred on Valentine's Day 1929 in Chicago with seven victims left dead the Browns Chicken case taking
place in 1993 but sadly it would not be the last of its kind experienced in the greater
Chicago area we touched a little bit yesterday Captain on the importance of holdback information and what could be
considered holdback information in this case the hold back information in the Browns Chicken Massacre to me was kind
of different than what we have come accustomed to what's so great here is that we have no Witnesses now I say
that's great that's obviously a big problem for the investigation you want witnesses witnesses will help you solve
this thing faster putting eyes on anything and then relaying those details and that information to the
investigators can only help solve this case faster however what we have here is we don't have anybody that was in the
restaurant that day or night that is saying look this seemed suspicious this seemed odd this guy looked bad I think
this guy was walking into the place with a gun or as I was leaving and I left the
parking lot after closing I saw these vehicles there or these people that were still in the store that's we don't have
that here and on top of that we don't have security footage like you mentioned yesterday exactly right and like we've
seen in so many other cases where unfortunately these murders or homicides take place at a store or a restaurant we
often times have a customer or patrons of that restaurant that are saying when I left everything was fine and this was
the person that was still in the store or this was a person that I saw right before I left in the yogurt shop case we
talk about several people saying that there were still two guys in the store when the girls closed the yogurt shop
that night now while I say that having witnesses will help solve your case faster obviously I say here also that
not having any Witnesses is and can be a good thing it's a good thing for your holdback information because now you
have more pieces that you can hold back from the public that should help you quickly decipher who should be ruled in
as a possible possible suspect and who should be ruled out and when you're talking about a case of this magnitude
where we have thousands of tips pouring in we have a lot of people working the case you need it is advantageous to your
investigation if you have the ability to quickly move on from a potential suspect
or quickly hone in on a potential suspect aspect and that's what your hold back information is going to help you
with so with no Witnesses the first item of hold back information and some of this is weird to me Captain because some
of this may have simply have been happen stance some of it had may have been actual holdback information and we'll go
through these one at a time first thing that we have is the actual exact location of the bodies so in the early
reports in the early media reports they had all seven bodies in one location of the restaurant and basically
one corner of the kitchen the northwest corner all in or around that cooler of course we know that was not true we know
that we have five victims in the freezer which is actually in an entirely different corner of the restaurant again
I don't know if that was a situation of the papers got it wrong and police chose
not to correct them or if they chose to hold back that information and just say very simply very generically we found
seven victims they were all found in the kitchen area around this one cooler the
other thing and you brought this up yesterday was the guns remember the newspapers were
reporting that it is believed that two guns were used in the commission of these crimes and we know later that that
wasn't the case it was one gun a 38 caliber again I don't know if this was something that the investigators chose
and strategize to withhold from the media and the public or if it was just a reporter ran with an idea and they chose
not to correct the narrative well again law enforcement when they're talking to reporters
because you got to talk to reporters in this case because the Threat Level that the
community and the locals would feel so you have to pick and choose your words carefully because like you said you
don't want to give out too much information and have somebody come forward with wrongful confession or
somebody sending in a tip um that is sending you on a wild goose chase because they they got this information
from a report and then we have a crime scene detail that was withheld there was a bullet that had
been fired into one of the smoke hoods so this would be above the cookers or the friar we don't know if this was
intentionally done by the perpetrator or you know to try to fire a shot in the air to gain control of the people you
have seven people that you have to control and Corral or if it was happen stance that
there was a struggle and for whatever reason the gun goes off or the perpetrator is just simply unable to hit
their Mark but there was a bullet that was fired into one of the smokee heads so that hit something either the
smokehead or something above one of the cookers another item was the money situation now we've seen this with Los
crusis bow and several other cases it's very common that the money situation is part of the hold back information what
we have in the Browns Chicken case is we have police informing the media the registers were empty we have two cash
registers both were found empty the safe had been opened and money taken from the
safe the only money that they recovered from the Browns Chicken restaurant was $1,000 the $11,000 that remained was not
because the perpetrators failed to find this money they they just couldn't gain access to it so it was on one of those
timers so this safe had several different compartments a compartment where you can place things mainly cash
but it also had a compartment that was locked down via timer and you could access money by typing in a code and it
would release a small amount of money like you could request 21s or 520s I don't know what denominations were
allowed for but basically you could not access that money without going past this timer so that $1,000 remained in
this compartment now I don't believe that they released the exact amount of money that had been taken now that could
be considered holdback information the exact amount but also I found in many cases and I and I know youve found this
too Captain I think that often times they are not law enforcement is not incredibly precise on the exact amount
of money that was taken yeah I'm sure if they brought in like a financial forensic investigator they could come up
with the amount to the penny based on sales and receipts but if that is not clear at the end of the day law
enforcement just knows knows that there was some money taken and does it really affect the investigation if it was
$5,000 taken or $6,000 taken right it it could affect your investigation if it's
a very you know not such a round number right if if if one individual knew that exactly
$2,011 was stolen that night then that becomes of particular interest but you're exactly right you'd have to bring
in somebody to figure out and decipher exactly how much money was missing and the problem then becomes here in this
situation unfortunately everybody that was working that shift that night became a victim they were killed right and on
top of that the two owner operators were killed too so you don't have a lot of great leads on getting you to that exact
amount so therefore it wouldn't actually be hold back information but what we do
have here is the details of that that safe and the registers they chose to release that information to the media
and to the public well again law enforcement could talk to possibly a manager or assistant manager or other
employees to just go hey what's the average sale look like dayt day and what does one look like on a Friday and to
get does a ballpark figure on what possibly could have been taken now here is a big
a very big piece of holdback information the detectives were able to figure out a couple things that went
down that night and this is key for so many reasons first of all there was an actual sale that took place after the
store had closed so at 908 p.m. one of the registers recorded a sale for a meal this was a chicken klaw and fries Meal
which was I believe maybe the most popular combo meal that they sold at the time we have the dollar amount that is
rang in so what happened was they were able to determine that the register had actually been closed down for the
night remember the doors the main entrances and exits found in the lock position when police arrived and then
found the bodies and most those you have to lock from the inside you can't just lock them from the outside unless you
had a key obviously so registers closed and doors locked those are going to be key indicators to investigators
that the restaurant was successfully closed on time at 900 p.m. for whatever reason even after the registers were
closed we now have a sale of this meal at 908 p.m. after the store was supposed to be closed closed now they also found
in one of the trash receptacles a receipt for this meal and in that trash receptacle they also
found remaining portions of this meal in particular they found chicken this sounds like it would be a
complete mess but there was some pretty neat and tidy things to this crime scene
that really helped investigators one knowing that the registers had been successfully closed two this meal or
what remained of this meal and the receipt that they recovered from the trash receptacle the other trash
receptacles had been cleaned out so that part of the closing duties had been done
had been completed right you have this piece of information where you are sitting here going okay well let's try
to piece together what we think may have happened we think that the perpetrator or perpetrators May may have gained
access to the store somehow after they closed or remained in the store unseen to other customers when the store closed
and for whatever reason an employee or somebody allowed this late order to be rang in food prepared and served after
the restaurant had actually closed the thing is there's a chance there's a strong chance that that meal and that
receipt have everything to do with your investigation yeah you could get a fingerprint off that or obviously later
on DNA evidence from the from the actual food so police were working on a couple
of theories they had a couple working theories here they weren't silent about this
to the media the one that they were most vocal about was they had said that we believe this is a robbery gone wrong an
armed robbery that went wrong and what they surmised could have happened was that per or perpetrators take the money
after corralling and controlling the employees and the owners and then become frustrated when they can't gain access
to that last $1,000 and either a struggle takes place or someone is taken out one of the
workers which would be witness was taken out and now you have witnesses and then
they take out the other witnesses that was their general theory that we couldn't gain access to the $1,000 now
we're flipping out and a problem breaks out and this thing just got really bad really quick maybe they showed up never
intending to kill anybody just wanted to clean the place out and were frustrated
when they couldn't do so and like you said you have seven victims so we have seven eyewitnesses to this robber Roby
that might not be that big of a deal to the perpetrators but once something happens and one of the victims now
becomes a murder victim now you have another six eyewitnesses that they felt like they had to dispose of now one
theory that you cannot dismiss and you touched on this yesterday Captain and this is something that I find to be
fascinating you also could have the situation where this was personal maybe somebody wanted revenge and like you
said maybe they thought you know what let's take the money anyway we're here anyway let's clean this place out or
let's clean out this place and make it look like the motive was something else right to jack up the investigation now
remember this whole idea money or something personal would be very similar to what
we spoke about when we discussed the Lane Bryant shooting that's in Tinley Park in another suburb of Chicago this
was a mass murder and armed robbery at a Lane Bryant outlet in Brookside Marketplace in Tinley Park that occurred
in February of 2008 and in that case sadly we end up with five dead one injured who the killer attempted to
execute the gunman was later described as a black man with thick Corn Road hair and a receding hairline and a a single
braid that came down the front of his face or near his cheek in that case was always believed to be a robbery
gone arai police are on record saying we believe this was a robbery gone arai that one of the hostages taken called
911 the gunman freaks out and and starts shooting people armchair detectives and
people that we spoke with were quick to point out hey there's all these little weird things with inside this case to
consider could is it possible that there was a hit involved or was it possible that this was not a robbery gone aai as
the police said and that this person goes into the Lane Bryant with the purpose of killing one or more of these
people but kills all of them or attempts to do so to cover up who the actual Target was well and think about this if
you're law enforcement if you just have if somebody breaks into somebody's house
and kills them and and takes nothing or or kills somebody in their car you start
with the Inner Circle and you start working out if you believe that the crime is not targeted in this case then
you're looking for almost an infinite amount of suspects and it's not crazy that these things
actually happen or that people would suspect this in any of these cases you know I was reviewing a case just the
other day where a woman hired two men to kill her husband he was killed inside their home and of course she tells them
make sure you ransack the place before you leave there's been a string of burglaries here in our neighborhood it
will look like he stumbled upon this Breakin and he was attacked and killed not that it was something personal where
a hired hit right so it's not out of the realm of possibility now that Lane Bryant case was our episode epis True
Crime garage episodes 200 and 2001 that case is is one of the cases that has intrigued me for years since
back in 2008 it's a very fascinating case and one that I think we both believe is very solvable but for
whatever reason it just hasn't been yet it's rumored that they have DNA in that case so maybe we get something that that
that breaks here this year or 2023 the year of got him yeah let's make it happen let's let's let's cuff these
people and bring them in now we do have suspects and we had suspects early on in
this case so this is actually within hours of the case breaking so there was a man that was held for questioning this
was a 23-year-old man he was a former employee of this particular Browns Chicken restaurant this man was let go
he was fired from his job what was stated was that he vowed to seek revenge and actually I I have a portion from one
of the newspapers here that say police raided the house of a 23-year-old former employee and arrested the man at
gunpoint on Saturday afternoon remember they discovered the bodies at 2:30 a.m. Saturday morning this man was arrested
Saturday afternoon this after police learned learned that the man had been fired from the restaurant earlier and
had vowed Vengeance so police have a motive they hold this guy they keep him for
questioning they actually went to his house they searched this man's house and they were moved we have the media this
was a media frenzy when the case broke media they're watching this man's house as it's being searched they see police
leaving this man's house with two bags two big bags that they brought out of this guy's house one of the officers has
asked hey did you know did do you got the guy do you got the guy that did this is that what is this what are you
removing from his home what did you guys find and he simply says this is evidence
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you all and cheers to you the crispiest of the kernel list cheers everybody out there he's back I never left but uh
cheers to you Captain thanks for returning uh this guy though he would not be their only suspect in this case
because what we have here Captain is they are able to hold this man for two days for approximately 48 hours and then
they released him they sent him along his way even though the officer says this is evidence and that's all I'll say
about that the thing is they may have had a motive or could put a motive on this guy for why he would be the
perpetrator of the crime they actually had zero evidence connecting him to the murders they found nothing actually in
his house that connected him to the murders and yes he did vocally tell at least one other person that he was going
to get Vengeance or some kind of Revenge it's not clear it's what he stated you know if he said he was going to kill the
owner or kill the person that fired him or you know egg the place we don't know what type of Revenge he was seeking
because that portion is not reported and probably rightfully so because as it turns out this guy doesn't look so good
after you've talked to him for two days yeah I used to get in trouble for this all the time and I blame Frank Rizzo r i
z zo because there was that famous jerky boy sketch and he would say my wife is sick my kids are sick you you want to
talk about coupon I'll bum this place and I used to make that threat a lot when I was younger and my my Dumber days
now 10 days after the murders we get a additional potential suspects we got three
people that police brought into the station for questioning this is because well and and face it they didn't
have to look very hard for these these person so these individuals were suspects in another case that took place
within a week or so of the Browns Chicken Massacre these suspects had committed some armed
robberies and they were all robberies that were committed in suburbs surrounding Chicago and the reason why
the police were really interested in these three guys is that in all cases the employees were rounded up and forced
into the coolers of those restaurants and businesses yeah makes sense so it it seems like something they've done before
but then this one maybe got out of hand and that's why we have murdered victims now I'm uncertain captain of how long it
took for investigators to determine if if and when and how these guys are just robbers and not actual murderers but at
some point these guys go from looking really good for this to not looking good for it at all what I do want to point
out here too and this is something you can learn from the actions of an actual investigation is what have the police
figured out and what have they not figured out about the crime scene and about the perpetrators well here when
you see one individual being arrested in question for two days and then later a week later or so you find three persons
being arrested it looks to me like police are uncertain or they have evidence that's telling them don't lock
into an idea of how many people committed this crime right don't lock in on if it's one guy two guys or three or
four people that you are looking for in the Browns Chicken case but also if these guys end up not being suspects
that's fine but think about the information that you're probably going to learn during the questioning of that
well how would this go down and and these guys essentially are somewhat of experts when it comes to arm robbery by
the Oney year anniversary of this massacre sadly the case was still unsolved and police were they had
assembled a task force very early in this investigation which consisted of 84 detectives and support staff from 10 law
enforcement agencies including the state police the Chicago Police Department and
the FBI this task force Captain would include more than 100 individuals from 21 law enforcement agencies the task
force Force ultimately within that first year received more than 3,000 tips we said this was going to be a large
complicated investigation and you can see by the 3,000 tips and then them following up on more than 1,000 leads
how complicated this case was police spent more than 400 hours processing the actual crime scene and collected more
than 240 pieces of evidence at the scene and lifted 200 late fingerprints sadly after 365 days while
we had some suspects that may have looked good briefly we don't end up with any arrest there's no court date set for
anybody for a murder trial here after that time period which is tough on the victims families it's tough on law
enforcement it's also tough on the community because this is a tragic situation and we just don't have any
answers after 365 days the task force d dwindled in numbers of course they they send these officers and investigators
onto cases other cases that they acquire throughout that time period so did the tips the tips dwindled as well now after
one year there was a $17,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and a conviction here in
the Browns case police used the one-year anniversary to remind the public they believe that the case was simply
just one phone call away from being solved someone out there knows who the Killer is and hasn't come forward they
go on to say that we're looking for someone who could be an an accessory to the trigger man or someone that the
killer or Killers have talked to about what they have done and they were reminding the public hey we want that
person to contact us well like like the colonel was saying we we have this task force and they're together for a whole
year and yes we don't have a rest yet in the Browns Chicken Massacre but this task force was successful because as
they're questioning individuals and in gathering information in this case they were able to actually make AR rest of 10
to 12 individuals in other cases some other statements that were released to by the police on the one-year
anniversary that I like here Captain they went on to say some of the officers said this offender has caused a lot of
human suffering the task force has compiled thousands of pages of reports and information that has been shared with
police agencies throughout the country The Killers eventually will slip up this case is going to be solved we have some
unfortunate little details in this case yeah there's always these sad little details that you find Captain in these
cases where you're like this victim could have been avoided it it may not this person didn't have to be there that
night or this person was scheduled to be there at the last minute so yeah like an
unfortunate change of events exactly so we have the restaurant owners themselves they had actually just bought
this store months earlier and it was actually the first restaurant the married couple had ever owned it was a
career change for the couple right then we have the cook Maldonado he had just started working
there three weeks prior to the massacre the two teenagers were just part-time employees
and you know one thing that's sad here in that case you go back to 1993 we had 2 million Americans 18 and younger that
made up 2/3 of America's fast food Workforce at the time where most of them were making the federal minimum wage of
just $425 an hour and then we have one of the individuals that was working that night
Rick Solace who was actually filling in for another employee that night after having traded shifts with a fellow
employee so that one of them or both of them could attend events that they wanted to go to on for
Rick a different night and for this employee that particular night well and that's what we talk about with the when
you have a victim there's multiple victims family members co-workers Community but now in this situation you
have these guys that they traded shifts with each other and and that guy has to live with that for the rest of his life
where you know that'd be that'd be difficult for me if if one of my buddies took on my shift and something bad
happened to him uh that'd be very difficult there's always a lot of survivors guilt in these type of cases
in circumstances you touched on something earlier captain that will end up being the Crux of this case in the
investigation and remember police pointed out in interviews shortly after the homicides took place that you know
we have blood evidence here in this case and we've really been working significantly with a lot of blood
evidence and spatter and positional things and directional things involving blood spatter that tell us certain
aspects about a crime and how things went down at a scene and we believe that soon one day that's going to lead to
more DNA technology that can be used in these types of Investigations that was all very very
foretelling in a way because what we have here is after years of the case not being solved there's a lot of pressure
being put on the police department a lot of criticism being thrown there way by the media and by the public because they
wanted this thing solved and they started to think that it would never be solved well meanwhile behind the scenes
police were still working with the idea of hey that big piece of holdback information that we had about the
receipt about the meal being sold after the store closed and the chicken and the
items that were found in that trash receptacle while we couldn't pull any fingerprints from it in
1993 we better save all this stuff because we think one day we might be able to use these items and pull
evidence particularly DNA from them that at some point hopefully we can connect it to an actual suspect and then we know
who was there that night all the while I believe it was about 5 years they kept testing these items that they found in
that trash receptacle eventually after about five years they were able to pull DNA from one of those
pieces of chicken they're not working with genealogy detective work back then so we can't just take this and then work
it for 6 months to 18 months and hopefully figure out family tree that may lead us to the perpetrator but if we
get the right guy or girl or whomever we at least have DNA now that we can start
comparing it to suspects what happens is they actually end up with several confessions in this
case I don't know the total number of confessions that they ended up with but even after the 5-year Mark once they
have this DNA we have confessions from a boyfriend and girlfriend that say that they were involved we have confessions
from two friends uh not related to the boyfriend and girlfriend that admitted to being involved and had done the
killings however Captain what we end up with is in March of 2002 police are going back through and
they are going to kind of toss everything out except for the DNA evidence and look at this case with new
fresh eyes start a new and one thing they had always been really working in this case and it's obvious by the
actions of the investigation remember we had said that 23-year-old former employee was brought in within hours of
the murders and questioned and held for two days his home searched they were always locked in on this idea that the
probability of it being a current employee or former employee they thought was rather high so when they start
investigating this case a new in 2002 one of the first things they were doing was they were contacting all of the
former employees and Associates of known associates of the former employees well in March of 2002 they get
an individual named an Lockett on the phone and an Lockett is somebody that they had interviewed a couple of times
but in March of 2002 she has a different story to tell them than what she's told
them in the past mhm and this time she's telling them I know exactly who did it because the two individuals told me that
they did it so now we have to introduce James dorski and Juan Luna the way that this story works here
Captain is that dorski and Luna told Lockett that they had committed the crimes here's a little little bit of a
problem for investigators this is not the first person to tell them that they had committed the crimes not not Luna
and dorski right but remember they have the other confessions and they've had other people along the way that have
told them hey I think I know who did it but we have all that holdback information so now we can ask her what
are the details that they gave you and do those match anything that maybe somebody in the public wouldn't know yes
and the reason why I cited those two specific confessions the boyfriend and the girlfriend pair and then you also
have the two friends I cited those because police had a hard time moving on from both of those because they both
nailed a lot of the hold back information in fact in one of those cases the detectives were screaming and
shouting hey we got to arrest these guys and take them to court and the prosecutor kept reminding them okay now
keep in mind guys we have the DNA they can say all day and night that they did this and that the um they know
intimate details of the murders or the crimes but their DNA does not match that that is found on the chicken so the
prosecutor did not allow for the arrest in either occasion well one of the problems too with the case not being
solved right away is that hold back information starts leaking out in a small town I mean you you said it
was a village basically less than 50,000 people there's information that's probably getting leaked out and we've
seen that in other investigations as well it just happens unfortunately it's unfortunate but it just happens now in
this case one piece that nobody had gotten right about the hold back information was that and and this is
very sad and disturbing to say all at the same time so I apologize for having to say this but one
piece of holdback information was that one of of the victims vomited as he was being shot or or or
just before he was shot right and these other confessions that they had that detail was missing
from those confessions when they speak with an Lockett and then they start talking to
Luna and dorski that detail is present in those stories thus separating them immediately from anybody
else that they've ever spoken to and then they say to Juan Luna they're they're interviewing him at his
home I believe it might have been right in front of his home take this swab and just rub it on the inside of your mouth
here we put it in this tube no big deal we're asking everybody to do this we're asking anybody that we talk to to do it
and he willingly agrees and he swabs the inside of his cheek and it takes some time of course but after they check that
swab and then compare it to the DNA found on the chicken it's a match so now we have a DNA match putting Juan Luna at
the scene later he gives a confession that puts James dorski there with him they are both the gunmen in this
confession we have an Lockett who says that Juan Luna did it and James dorski did it and they told me the detail about
the victim vomiting and so all these things are matching up eventually James dorski gives a confession as well the
short of it here Captain is that we end up with two individuals as being present
there two individuals involved and responsible for the murder of seven individuals and they end up being tried
and tried separately now while this case took place the murders took place in 1993 the arrests do not occur
until May of 2002 this this is after they get the DNA sample back right almost 10 years and then we don't have
trials that start until one trial started in 2007 and the other started in 2009 and these took so long to get to
court because both of these trials were rather complicated you had yes the DNA with Juan Luna
but just because he ate a piece of chicken and left it at this restaurant does not necessarily mean that he's the
killer it just means he was the last customer of that day he was there and he was somebody that was never willing for
all these years to admit that he was there so that makes him much more suspicious than anybody else of course
you end up getting a confession out of him well and he also confessed to an so correct and then after you
arrest his partner in crime James dorski you get a confession out of him as well
the problem with the Gorski is you actually end up with zero physical evidence evence putting him at the crime
scene you're arresting him based off of what Juan Luna is saying and what an Lockett is saying yes dorski eventually
confesses and I keep circling around on this because what ended up being a problem at both trials was that it was
quickly pointed out that yeah these two guys confessed but so did other people right and other people confessed because
of the pressure that was put on them by the police by the detective they may have been a little overly aggressive in
their pursuit of suspects that were not correct but like you said the difference
between those confessions and these confessions are little details and that's good thing so when everybody's
screaming at the top of their lungs that law enforcement needs to release more information well this is one of the
reasons why it's so important that they keep certain details back because if they would have said that one of the
victims threw up then that's that one little detail that than anybody would have known both Luna and dorski while
tried separately they were both found guilty on all seven counts of murder in both cases we have the state of
Illinois unsuccessfully sought the death penalty against dorski and Luna and they
were both sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole now keep in mind those trials were 2007
2009 the state of Illinois abolished the death penalty in 2011 at the time there were 15 inmates
of the state still on death row the then Governor Pat Quinn commuted those sentences to life sentences but if you
look up this case now you're going to see that James dorski he's been fighting for a new trial and trying to bring new
evidence and he's he's actually won and and and got to higher courts to actually hear this information
but the last thing I read on it was that he got to the higher courts but then the
courts um listened to the argument but then dismissed they dismissed his notion to get a new trial yeah again the
complications were the confessions themselves because they did both give different
versions a few different versions of what went down there that night it could just be that they're trying to put more
blame on the other perpetrator and put less blame on themselves dorski ended up being compensated by the state to the
tune of $451,000 this was in 2014 when a jury awarded him that money for punitive
damages this was because he was beaten sever ly by a sheriff's deputy in Cook County Jail in May of 2002 this was days
after his arrest for these seven murders yeah which would make you question the validity of a
confession under oath because he's basically being physically tortured by the police and both Luna and dorski have
recanted all of their confessions and they are also saying that they were fed information from the
police during the interrogation or questioning process their lawyers have pointed out that an Lockett was awarded
money $107,000 roughly actually her and another woman split the money because they provided information about dorski
and Luna to the police to me Captain I I see their arguments and I understand them and I think that there is some
level of Merit there that they have an an argument and of course look that's why I
am that's why in some cases I am fond of our system because they do have appeals
where they can express those concerns and can make those arguments however from where I sit both of these guys look
incredibly guilty I do want to make sure that we give a big shout out to the Chicago Triune who did an absolute
gangbusters job absolutely gangbusters work on covering this case over the many many years that it took to see this
thing [Music] through want to thank everybody for joining us here in the garage for
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This week in the Garage we discuss a very complicated case from Palatine, Illinois. Back in January of 1993 someone murdered the workers and robbed the Brown’s Chicken & Pasta restaurant on the corner of the Northwest Highway and North Smith street. The bodies were later located in the back kitchen area by police more than five hours after the restaurant closed that Friday night. Sadly seven people lost their lives that night. The greater Chicago area just experienced yet another massacre. Join us in the Garage as we dive into the investigation that ensued as detectives went on the hunt for a cold blooded killer.

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Brief Summary

The episode details the Browns Chicken Massacre, investigation, and arrests of suspects Dorski and Luna through DNA evidence and confessions.

Key points

The Browns Chicken Massacre. A tragic event in Illinois history, marking a series of violent crimes.
Holdback Information in Investigations. The significance of withholding details in criminal cases and its impact on investigations.
Theories on the Motive. Exploring the possible motives behind the massacre, including robbery and personal revenge.
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Unsolved Case Pressure. After a year, the Browns Chicken case remains unsolved, putting pressure on police.

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