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[Applause] [Music] [Music] find out mr. Ramsey listen carefully we are a group of individuals that
represent a small foreign faction we respect your business but not the country that it serves at this time we
have your daughter in our possession she is safe and unharmed if you want her to
see 1997 you must follow our instructions to the letter you will withdraw 118 thousand dollars from your
account one hundred thousand dollars will be in $100 bills from the remaining eighteen thousand and twenty dollar
bills make sure that you bring in adequate size at tache to the bank when you get home you will put the money in a
brown paper bag I will call you between 8:00 and 10:00 a.m. tomorrow to instruct
you on delivery [Music] the delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested if we monitor
you getting the money early we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an
earlier pickup of your daughter any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of
your dog you will also be denied her remains for proper burial the two gentlemen watching over your
daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you to not provoke them speaking to anyone about your situation
such as police FBI etc will result in your daughter being beheaded if we catch you talking to a stray dog she dies
if you alert bank authorities she dies if the money is in any way marked or tampered with she dies you will be
scanned for electronic devices and if any are found she dies you can try to deceive us but be warned that we are
familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics you stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if
you try to outsmart us follow our instructions and you stand a 100% chance of getting her back you and your family
are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities don't try to grow a brain John you're not the only fat cat
around so don't think that killing will be difficult don't underestimate us John use that
good southern common sense of yours it is up to you now John victory sb TC okay most people use the phrase ransom note
I'm going to call this a ransom letter because as you just heard it is long most ransom notes are short we have your
daughter we want $500,000 do not involve the police we will contact you this ransom letter is two and a half pages
long written on your standard run-of-the-mill eight and a half by 11 and 3/4 inch paper now what you're going
to hear is the captain and I tear through this ransom letter you're going to get our opinions on different pieces
of this letter as well as the instructions given to John Ramsey on how to get his daughter back our opinions
are going to be a combination of our personal opinions plus information that we've collected from other sources along
the way who have scrutinized this same ransom letter I'll start us off captain with this up at the top of the letter at
the beginning of the letter yeah there is this great website out there that's called statement analysis calm okay so
some of our thoughts or some of the things that we mention here will include their thoughts as well they are a great
website because they analyze these types of ransom letters as well as 911 calls and they have experience doing this you
and I well we got a little bit of experience ourselves doing this as we've been doing it now for several years but
statement analysis calm they stay as well as a couple of the books that I've read on this case the first line that
they kind of question is the we are a group of individuals and they point to this because a lot of people says this
letter as a whole just doesn't make sense right and one thing that I want to keep in mind here and we kind of you
know did a little running around our discussion last week about this case but I think what's very important in the
JonBenet Ramsey case to keep in mind when you're looking at each one of these items as we are going to do I think you
need to stay fluid and you need to stay in the moment of what's going on with the case you know we were talking about
the police showing up and how they didn't secure the scene and you know people would point out well they don't
even know if it is a crime if a crime took place right why should they secure it again I believe that you want to stay
fluid in that moment when you show up you have indicators pointing toward a kidnapping for ransom and so therefore
it is a crime scene so obviously we do know some things that are going to come to light we can look at those as much as
we want but in the moment keep him keep in mind in the moment stay fluid as we go through this statement analysis calm
as well as several other sources again points out that the letter as a whole does not make sense and they
specifically reference the line of we are a group of individuals pointing out what exactly does that mean
what does the writer of this letter mean right because every group is comprised of individuals I think it's a lie
we are a group of individuals you would just say we are a group that's true the other thing too that John Douglas would
point out in his experience with ransom letters is that often the the kidnapper is the authority in this situation
they're the ones that are going to call the shots they're the ones demanding the
ransom you're going to do this or that or this or that's going to happen or not going to happen yeah and he points out
in his experience that often a you want to perceive a larger threat than what is
actually going on because you as the kidnapper really only knows what everything that's going on the victims
don't know everything that's going on they only know what you choose to tell them in your letter right so John
Douglas would point out hey we are a group of individuals we are a group if it was in fact just one person that
kidnapped and wrote this letter then that makes sense to him because they would want to present themselves as a
larger than life a larger threat they're bigger they're scarier it's not just one
person it's a group right and that evidence is followed back we represent a small foreign faction I
think just that term is to back up the idea of a group of individuals the small foreign faction makes it seem like
something bigger then when you get to we respect your business but not we respect
your business but not the country that it serves yeah again I think that's to back up the small foreign faction this
sounds very movie like to me yeah my thoughts here they represent a small foreign faction the use of the word
small doesn't make sense to most because now it's it's the opposite where you say
we are a group you're trying to make yourself seem bigger the threats seem more real bigger now small is taking
that down a notch foreign faction sounds scary sounds scary to me but it's weird
just those words together the use of the word foreign sounds odd even if they would be foreigners to us they likely
wouldn't call themselves foreigners they would say something like we are the Islamic Jihad right they wouldn't call
themselves a small foreign faction I think it was cereal cereal wax book where he states even a small foreign
faction would not call themselves a small foreign faction it's just a weird weird statement yeah but I think right
away it's it's establishing the mindset you know this individual thinks that they're gonna outsmart people with this
nonsense I think the biggest thing in the letter to point to that it's not a group of individuals is when he changes
the narrative and I'm going to say he but when he says I will call you I will call you between 8:00 and 10:00 a.m. now
I'm jumping some lines there but I think that goes back to a group of individuals
the we turns to I correct and to me that's proof that there was never a we that's like a Freudian slip right yeah
that's that's interesting because at first analysis for me what my thought was if he's saying and I agree with you
we'll continue to say he if he is saying we are a group oh and these men have your daughter
right you follow my instructions maybe he's the leader of this group maybe he's the brains the mastermind behind this
whole operation and he's the one that's going to be giving the instructions what
makes that not work that theory not work is as you just pointed out that it starts with we and it ends with I so it
does change along the way yeah I think some people argue well because he's not with other two individuals so that's
maybe why he changes to I will call you because they're going to be with your daughter but that's too much information
it's almost like stadium like once he goes to I again if there's a group well there with your daughter they'll be
monitoring you I'm not gonna be with your daughter mm-hmm the very strange but I think also we can start by looking
at this note and I think it's pretty clear to most people that it starts off a little sloppier and gets nicer as we
go with the handwriting yeah the penmanship yeah not a lot nicer but a little bit nicer and I wonder ok so
there's so much to get into one where did this individual right to know we we do know that the the paper this came
from a pad inside the Ramseys a home that's right there was a pen that was found in their home that they believed
was the pen for the note so this could go multiple ways did the person possibly steal the pad write the
note and then bring it back my issue with that idea would be well yeah you wrote the note but why would you bring
back the pad it doesn't make sense to me mm-hmm but the note seems creased which
to me why would you crease a note if you're writing it in the kitchen or where that pad would be and then you're
just transferring it over to the steps why crease it at all the crease is very weird to me as well and I'm with you
that I've never thought of the idea of somebody writing the letter elsewhere and then returning it to the scene not
that that's impossible anything in this case in particular anything seems to be possible the crease is odd because
wouldn't your objective your goal as the kidnapper who wants a ransom now there's
people out there going well we you know we know this and we know that again I'm staying fluid in the moment and
analyzing this particular item this is evidence as it is in the moment if we are to believe the ransom letter the
goal of the the author of this letter would be for the parents of this girl to find the letter as soon as possible why
we know that because of instruction given in the letter do not contact the authorities if they discover their
daughter missing before they find this letter they could very well screw up that whole
instruction by not knowing any better and calling the authorities our daughter is missing right we haven't found the
letter yet why crease it Patsy Ramsey says she finds it on the spiral staircase and it's three pages and has
laid out side by side so we know that at some point the letter was not to be concealed it was to be obvious it was to
be found by the parents and for the sake of not contacting the authorities well I'll
tell you what why don't we try to start at the at the top of the letter and just
work our way through and try to hit each thing along the way I think it would be
easier for us all to play along at home the letter starts off addressed to mr. Ramsey not to John Ramsey not to John
and Patsy not to the parents but to straight-up mr. Ramsey which I find to be interesting for several different
reasons it's a choice that the author is making it's a choice to only address this to mr. Ramsey a lot of these ransom
notes that we've seen in the past they don't even need to address it to anyone the line that we have your daughter
clarifies exactly who the letter was intended for right so it was a choice to address it to mr. Ramsey now one thing
that a lot of the TV shows and documentaries point out in this case the next line is listen carefully and they
all point to that being weird because this is a letter it's not a speech it's not somebody shouting threats at
somebody or calling on the phone this is a letter you're reading the words the words say listen carefully you don't
listen you're reading I get it that's never seemed weird to me I I've always taken that as just like I'm the
authority listen carefully here we go yeah I think it's a little strange it almost sounds like something you'd say
on the phone calling them listen carefully I have your daughter yeah but I also think is it that big of a deal
probably not but also I wonder if that points in any direction on where they got this possible idea to kidnap a girl
in the first place all right then we have the letter we respect your business okay we have your daughter we want a
hundred and eighteen thousand dollars or she dies but all by the way mr. Ramsey here's a mild compliment we respect your
business right shows that they almost care about mr. Ramsey had some on some level and some people have pointed out
that if Patsy Ramsey was the author of the Ring some letter that she may have chose to
mention this to create some kind of distance between John's company and the investigation Brian
regardless the writer is aware of John Ramsey's business per the letter and that he is successful right if the
writer is interested in a ransom they are targeting what many believe to be a weird amount of money 118 thousand
dollars in cash at the ready mm-hmm according to Steve Thomas's book JonBenet inside the Ramsey murder
investigation from a leading detective on the case the author wrote we do letters do with the do crossed out we we
do respect your business deck detective Thomas takes that to mean either we do respect your business or the author was
starting to write out we don't respect your business but then change their mind mid-sentence this this you really have
to question as it goes to motive right because at this moment in the investigation looking at this letter
this is supposed to be laying out the motive for what is going on here and it would point out that the author is if
Thomas is right that they were starting to write don't we don't respect your business right the author is undecided
if they respect Ramsey's business up in to the point of writing that sentence if
it is an intruder who wrote the letter it's just we you broke into this man's home and according to the letter to
kidnap a small child and threaten the parents with the beheading of the child yet you're undecided on how you feel
about John's business yeah but I also think to me this point says somebody copying a letter mm-hmm my gut feeling
says that this letter was composed somewhere else and they thought to be I'm gonna be real smart about this and
get away with it so therefore I'm gonna write the letter inside the house I'll use a pin from inside the house so you
paper from inside the house I wouldn't bring the layer that I wrote with me and it might have stated we do respect your
your business but then messed up and then realize well you can just put we respect your business that works too
but there's obviously there's a edit there but I but I I believe the person is reading off their letter and maybe
there's not a lot light in the house and so again I also think one of the reasons
why it's sloppier in the beginning a lot of people when they start writing it it's a little sloppier but I also think
it's sloppier because this individual is now wearing gloves right so I think you
know gloves and could be very nervous right and maybe the nerves are easing up as they continue to write I I kind of am
with Steve Thomas here on his thoughts about believing that the writer was intending to write the word don't we we
don't or we do not respect your business because we do respect your business or we respect your business is the same
sentence and it's not necessary to cross out do in that in that moment so that seems weird now the writer goes on to
say we respect your business but not the country that it serves so are we to believe that Jon Benet was kidnapped and
then murdered because someone has a hatred for the United States most people would agree this crime is not an
international incident so it's just weird to put that in there that to play that toward motive we're
you know maybe there's many factors based in to why you are going to leave this letter but to include we you know
the the the we don't respect the country that it serves that your business serves
it just seems a very strange thing I think this is pointing out to what you say it's not a group it's not a small
foreign faction but if we mention some distaste or hatred for the United States in that same letter it's there too it's
purposely put there to confirm that we are a foreign entity right right again I think it's as simple as I'm
gonna throw some of these things in to try to throw you off the scent of who I really am
but I think the fact that they sit there and say well we respect your business that's a they've made that choice
therefore they're showing some kind of concern for mr. Ramsay later on they show some concern for him when they say
you know be rested because the delivery will be exhausting I advise you to be rested you would not put that if you
didn't care about the person on some level this is another example of people say well this shows that Patsy could
have wrote the note because she the writer keeps showing affection almost for John on some level captain I respect
your talent but not the garage that it serves all right deal with that get out of my garage well as you pointed out the
writer misspells two very common words one of them being business in the other possession however the writer then
correctly spells the words deviation and attache even including the accent on the
word attache many believe that the writer purposely misspelled those two words to try to make it look like an
uneducated person or again a foreign person wrote this note yeah and a lot of people point that to be Patsy Ramsey the
idea that okay we're sitting down to write this note we're trying to disguise our handwriting so we make it a little
more sloppy at the beginning that's hard to keep up over two and a half pages so
that's why the sloppiness goes away but also at first well let me misspell a couple things to throw them off the
scent and then they kind of forgot about that cuz I don't think there's another misspelling for the next page and a half
I guess as you point out captain both of the misspellings occur when there is a double s double letter s situation I
think maybe this could be a tell almost like a signature or fingerprint if in fact this was not
made up right I want everyone to just stop and think for a minute do you have a couple of words that for whatever
reason your brain just seems to jumble up the letters in those words or screw up the spelling of those words
regardless of how often or how many times you look the word up have it autocorrected or ask somebody for the
spelling captain did you think of any words that that you have trouble with fiche pony hip hop hip hop anonymous
damn you you give him all the easy ones all the whole English language is very difficult for me to spell anything
correct I wonder again like you said is it a tell or is it on purpose not on purpose to spell it wrong but is the
author trying to give us a hint of who it is by making these mistakes so the reason why I say that it could be a
signature or almost like a fingerprint for the author of the letter would be is if this person always misspells these
two words and that somebody would be aware of that like for me I know the vacuum and convenient those two words
I'm like I'm never going to spell them correctly the W for years always screwed me up I think I've straight actually I
take that back I think I've straightened out my vacuum situation but for whatever
reason convenient is the most inconvenient word for me because I always want to put the I in a weird spot
I I will never get it right but anybody that I of course spotted with many times
may know that that I always have trouble with that word and then they could think
of ole Nick the extra-crispy Colonel wrote this ransom letter because he jumbled up the I and convenient yeah I
don't know why you'd put vacuum and a ransom note but it's your ransom note so it's your party I do I didn't write a
ransom note I just asked everybody to think of some letters some words the that they always have trouble with well
I want to just mention that we have commas in here so we have some kind of knowledge of writing and we also have
the big one to me is your right mm-hmm a lot of people get that wrong there's different yours right yeah off the top
of my head I think all the yours are correct yeah I didn't look at that so I'm guessing that they are and I know a
lot of people were probably sitting there going I everybody gets those right nope nope
that's like they're not one of the number one pet peeves I have on Facebook is when people get their yours wrong so
I worked in a small office years ago as an all foreign faction office yeah and I
remember there was a conversation that needed to be had mm-hmm if that's even correct grammar probably not but there
was a conversation that took place in a meeting where they addressed the office as a whole probably not to embarrass one
or two people in particular but that was the the exact conversation that they had
to pass down that needed to trickle down to some of the employees your yours are
always wrong in in your business letters and your emails and this that and the other thing and it's a reflection of
this company that you don't know how to you don't know proper grammar right it's
just like when it's there and they're all those like whether and whether those drive me nuts when people get them wrong
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as we continue on to the next portion of our ransom letter it states at this time
we have your daughter in our possession she is safe and unharmed and if you want
her to see 1997 you must follow our instructions to the letter so the writer tells us we have your daughter in our
possession most people would agree the shortest way to say something is the best way to state it especially in a
ransom letter a true kidnapper would have said we have your daughter the words in our possession are simply
understood and unnecessary and really just in those couple of lines there seems to be several extra and
unnecessary words next you will withdraw one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars from your account one hundred
thousand dollars will be in one hundred dollar bills and the remaining eighteen thousand and twenty dollar bills make
sure that you bring an adequate size at tache to the bank the amount of one hundred eighteen thousand dollars this
all things considered is a relatively small amount of money based off of the Ramseys wealth or perceived wealth and
John Ramsey's company is doing very well they just did a billion in annual sales
this was made public we discussed the news articles that came out regarding this John's net worth in 99
six was in the millions and wouldn't you agree a nice round number would be more
typical than 118 thousand dollars so there should be a reason why the writer chose 118 thousand dollars and even John
Ramsey agrees that that number 118 is could be significant to the killer yeah couple things here one if we believe the
writer on what they're stating I'm calling you we have two people that have your
daughter so we at least have three individuals so now you have to split that three ways so I thought we think it
was one person know about what I'm saying is if we believe all the letter yeah we're sister two men watching over
your daughter yeah three table were it a minimum three that makes the amount even
lower everybody's gonna get roughly about 40 grand what's that going to do for you right it it's not worth the risk
of of the amount of prison time that you're signing yourself up for if you get caught right so not a large amount
but that again goes back to the idea that we're probably dealing with one individual and not two or again somebody
that is falsifying a ransom note to cover up a murder and one thing that's been pointed out many many times over
the years in fact it was pointed out very early on in the investigation and the public's investigation into the
Ramseys let's say was that the amount may have been significant because John Ramsey's Christmas bonus or annual bonus
for 1996 was right around the same dollar amount yeah there was actually two things one his same dollar amount
roughly for the bonus and I wonder if this is also kind of a tip of the hat to why I'm asking for this amount because I
know you got it as a bonus mm-hmm so therefore it will be easy for you to give to me
I know it's available possibly so think it leads people to believe that whoever wrote this no if it's not
covering up inside job that it's it's basically stating I know you're bonus you know me but I also think that is
kind of smart I'm gonna make it seem like we're this big organization while actually a small foreign faction but
we're a group of people group of individuals and if you just do what we say and give us this amount that we know
it's pretty small to you this will be done and over with and I almost think that they picked this amount because
they knew it would be available and that possibly because of John's wealth that they'll just go get the money and not
contact the authorities right and the interesting thing here too is we have Steve Thomas who points out that look
that amount could be important because it could be indicative of his annual bonus that he received that year like
you pointed out if somebody else knows that if somebody that wants to stand to gain some money from this whole
situation they know that that money could be readily available rather quickly that this is this is money that
this dude can actually get his hands on we all see people drive fancy cars live in big fancy mansions that doesn't
necessarily mean that they can get a hold of any cash there might be up to debt in the up to debt to their eyeballs
and have no real cash no real liquid money or whatever to pay such a ransom stinky hard cash and then you have to
think about the banking system 118,000 for somebody that's a multi-millionaire they can go in there and get that money
and one transaction right if you make that amount too high half a million or a mil million that's gonna take some time
again the more time that this person has to process this the more likely they are
going to go well we have to contact authorities mm-hmm and so again it becomes this
thing where it's like is this a smart amount because they're just gonna try to get look I don't think the money is the
main purpose for any of this right but but saying fluid in the situation right we discuss it but this is some evidence
that points to that possibly Patsy Ramsey writes the note or John Ramsey or together they constructed this letter
yeah again yeah and I think if they wrote this note together that would make some sense also would make some sense on
why we have some scratch out marks all right oh no don't do that I mean let's just get into the handwriting analysis
John they kind of ruled out as being the the author of it that doesn't mean he didn't help her write it mm-hmm but it
seems like his handwriting samples don't match at all they're gonna scale to 1 to
10 he's a zero but as far as Patsy Ramsey goes she's on the Lois scale of matching handwriting samples she's on a
very low spectrum of that on like a one to ten she's at like a maybe a two but cannot be cleared cannot be clear cannot
be ruled out and what's weird about her to is it seems like there's speculation that she actually can write with both
hands ambidextrous yeah so it's like that's that's a word I want to put into a ransom note
I can drink beer with both hands write a very talented individual so here's what's weird about the amount to me is
this is just like everything else and I don't know if we mentioned this last week captain but I know we've talked
about this and our personal conversations our personal talks about the JonBenet Ramsey case is that even
the sources you go to to try to find the truth to try to sift through all the [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] and just get
to the truth started [ __ ] and the real hardcore evidence the problem with that or even the sources even the good
ones even people that and I agree that we respect they all seem to have an axe to grind they in so
you don't know if you're getting the 100% honest to God's truth so the public perception for a long time was that well
it had to be John Ramsey or Patsy Ramsey that wrote the letter that wrote the ransom letter because they would be the
only ones that would come up with this random amount of 118 thousand dollars they would be aware of that because that
amount was on their brains because of the bonus that he had recently received then you have the others
the Ramsey supporters that will say no you would have anybody there could be several people at his company that would
be aware of that amount there could be people at his bank that would be aware of that amount and the Ramsey's were not
particularly neat freaks and they've had a lot of guests they always are having guests over to their home there are
people that could have worked at their home or could have been there as a guest and could have seen this information
lying about somewhere in the Ramsey home and came up with that amount so why also
there's a strong argument for either in my opinion yeah and I also question how braggadocious Patsy Ramsey was and is it
possible that she was telling people at the Christmas party I will drink up you know because John got a big bonus or
whatever I think that's a possibility as well and there was a lot of people in and out of that house like you said and
you know all it would take would be somebody telling somebody that told somebody that told somebody
but this also amount goes to and I don't want to overlook this too much mr. maryk
I believe his name is there was a guy that was fired Jeff Merrick yeah a guy that eventually
you know John Ramsey said hey this is somebody that we should look into he's making threats and basically his pay was
the the argument that they had was you know around this dollar amount so he was looked into because of these threats and
because John could also prove that this dollar amount was pretty much what they were arguing
/ so he was looked into and his wife was looked into now on the high end of the spectrum I think we talked about him
before merriment mr. Merriman mmm which he was I think tested say I think Patsy Ramsey
wrote the note four times of who she was tested four times again the more and more samples that she gives you now
you're not comparing note to note you're comparing note to four notes and that's
what led us to the bottom of the barrel that she possibly wrote it this guy Merriman he was a he actually wrote the
note I believe seven times and they actually put him on the higher spectrum you know I on a scale of one to ten he's
maybe eight or nine he hit more markers yeah if they're looking for nineteen different markers to indicate this as
the author of the letter he's hitting more of those markers than Patsy Ramsey yeah by ten times and
eventually when they came back and wanted him to write another sample he said look I have rowed enough to fill
the Library of Congress if you want me to write anything more come back with handcuffs hmm this note doesn't make a
lot of sense at all and this amount doesn't make a lot of sense but I know that John Douglas and I believe another
FBI agent profilers have looked at this amount and looked at this note and thought this kind of points to a male
and their late teens maybe early 20s because again because the amount would be significant to them yeah and I owe
you person but I also think that makes a lot of sense and these guys are experts
I mean maybe not as much as I am but they are experts but I also think in question is there somebody else that
this is a lot of this is a bigger amount to where a hundred and eighteen thousand
might not seem like enough of a reason to kidnap somebody but again I don't think that's the reason I think this is
just kind of a icing on the cake and again why not pick a smaller amount just to get it done and over with well
even 118 thousand dollars that's a whole lot of rolling papers yeah so here's the
thing I do want to point out Steve Thomas his book is fantastic regardless if you agree with his opinions and
theories on the case I highly recommend everybody picked that book up and check it out there's a lot of information in
there does he have an axe to grind everybody that we will name I can't speak for the captain but my belief is
everyone that we name and this seems to have an axe to grind but I think it's ego he states well and I but I believe
with Steve Thomas he he firmly believes he's right he has some things that to him point out to him that he is right
and he's just he's just trying to push this out to the public and say look this is what I believe happened and why so
I'm fine with with hearing his opinion one thing he states about this 118 thousand dollar amount this is one thing
that is I've not seen it reported anywhere else so I want to make sure I bring it up here before we move on he
states that there was some notes the he found in John Ramsey's personal I don't know if it was a journal or personal
notes that John Ramsey made about his personal finances and the number 118,000 was significant as it was referenced
within those notes now I don't know if that was liabilities or liquid or what but it was it was significant according
to Steve Thomas in those notes and so he's pointing out forget about the bonus because a lot of people could have known
about that right this could be a number that's significant to John because of his personal financial notes that we
found in his office that's interesting but then we also have a few other interesting takes on this one thing
that's been pointed out many many times and I just have such a big issue with this whole look this case this
investigation is salacious enough without coming up with Halloween stories to add on top of it but there's always
been the the speculation out there throughout the years that oh 118 is significant because it references psalm
118 from the Bible and the family Bible inside the Ramsey home was turned to psalm 118 which discusses child
sacrifice and the Ramseys are Satanists right sorry that just doesn't make any damn sense it doesn't add up number one
number two well and hold on if you're gonna sacrifice one of your kids I mean don't you pick the ugly one I don't know
that I don't know the first thing about child sacrifice or the or sacrificing my
own child but what I will point out is that law enforcement stated first of all the family Bible was not turned to psalm
118 that never happened they never found that to be the case it wasn't marked it
wasn't bookmarked psalm 118 doesn't seem to hold any significance to this case for the Ramseys on top of that read the
Bible psalm 118 doesn't discuss child sacrifice so it's just it's just a theory that's all kinds of wrong it's
interesting it would make for a good movie you know if you're put together a good horror flick that would be
something of interest but it doesn't seem to mean anything now I like what John Douglas States about the amount of
118 thousand dollars he states that you know that if you were to convert that money to another currency Douglass
points out that at the time in 1996 118 thousand dollars roughly translates to a
million pesos see so either pointing out again as a little wink-wink hint situation that this could be a foreign
entity or a foreign person or he also states you know it could be somebody that was younger and looking to flee the
area after receiving the money and and hide out in Mexico yeah so it's interesting that there are
several different reasons for the possibility this this odd amount and again John
Ramsey himself agrees that the the number is probably significant to the killer now the phrase I actually should
say this captain just before moving on also like other things with this case it could have no significance at all it
could just be one of those weird things that's the amount that some crazy sicko on the spot came up with and that's all
you know and that's all it means yeah it's totally a coincidence then we have the phrase your account in the
letter this is interesting the author could have just said the bank you know your get the money from the bank right
and not your account also this is implying that the kidnapper knows that there's that dollar amount at least in
John Ramsey's account then if Patsy Ramsey was the author then we can see how in targeting the note toward her
husband she would use the phrase your account versus my account right make you know make sure that you bring in
adequate size attache to the bank most kidnappers are not going to remind you to bring an adequate size case to hold
the money Plus this has got to be a rather uncommon word I can think of only a handful of times
other than the Ramsey case where I have even heard the word attache used or seen
it on a piece of paper yep I again this to me points I mean we did we got a look
at intelligence level and I would say that this individual writing the note whether it's Patsy or somebody else we
know Patsy has a higher education if it's not Patsy it's somebody else with a higher education because I just don't
think that they would even try to use that word then the suggestion that you be well-rested I'm surprised they didn't
write eat oatmeal for breakfast you're going to need your strength it the kidnapper frankly doesn't give a [ __ ] if
you're well-rested right or not you know doesn't care about your feelings are about your your health your
physical well-being they want their money but again this could be immaturity this could be somebody quoting dumb [ __ ]
from a movie no dressing this could be yeah this could be Patsy not understanding how to be as aggressive as
maybe is she should or this could be somebody that's actually close to the Ramsey family that it this is like a
you're writing too much you're giving too much away and and I think a lot of people believe that little tells like
this point to that it's somebody that knows the family the word attache was written with an accent place over the
letter e most people in the u.s. do not use this special character it it may have been used because the writer wanted
the authorities to believe JonBenet was kidnapped by a foreign faction right the writer may have used
it because he or she is educated the other thing we have to make take into consideration is that JonBenet's name
was written with an accent Patsy Ramsey was accustomed to using the accent when writing her daughter's name yes she was
she wanted her daughter's name to sound French right so you will withdraw 118 thousand
dollars from your account 100 thousand will be in $100 bills in the remaining 18 thousand and $20 bills make sure that
you bring in adequate size aunt a shade to the bank when you get home you will put the money in a brown paper bag I
will call you between 8:00 and 10:00 a.m. tomorrow to instruct you on delivery the delivery will be exhausting
so I advise you to be rested if we monitor you getting the money early we might call you early to arrange an
earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter note the author wrote delivery of your
daughter if you see this on pay if you go and look up the actual paper write the author wrote delivery of your
daughter crossed out delivery and wrote pick up of your daughter so it reads mistakes
and all we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier delivery pickup of
your daughter the writer started to say that upon receiving the money he or they would
deliver JonBenet to the parents then realizing that a kidnapper would not deliver the hostage right but would tell
the family where she could be found therefore he changed it to pick up it's doubtful that a a well-thought-out
kidnapper would make this mistake it's a strong indication that the the writer was not an experienced criminal yeah
which makes this case even more baffling because that note makes a lot more sense
if if it's Patsy right in the note and just really bad at writing a ransom note to cover it up and this is one of the
points where she goes and hence right mm-hm she was kind of commonly known to use that phrase and I believe even
Bourke uses that phrase when he when he's questioned by authorities but again is this immaturity is this somebody
that's just trying to throw people off the scent but also we might do this earlier instead of the call I wonder if
you're viewing Patsy as the author is this setting up for them to change the plans on the police if they have to but
I also think that depending on when you wrote this note and in in what manner you did this would be kind of a weird
thing to kind of come up with off the top of your head yeah let's there's a lot to really dive into in this couple
sentences I believe so first the word monitor implies a continual surveillance this is further emphasized when the
writer states you and your family are under constant constant scrutiny the kidnapper would have us believe they are
continually watching the Ramsey which is very highly unlikely one but two goes back to that line of if we you
know if we see you getting the money earlier we're going to will make earlier arrangements to return your daughter
right it kind of its kind of underlining that yeah we are watching you and we will
know when you go to get the money the word hence as you pointed out is incredibly interesting it's not a common
word the word hence is a formal way of saying therefore the writer starts out the ransom note misspelling words giving
the appearance that they are uneducated however his or their educational level begins to show when they use words such
as hence we see the same writing style in the Ramseys Christmas message on December 14th 1997 the first United
Methodist Church in Boulder Colorado held a memorial service for JonBenet in the program there was a message a
Christmas message from the Ramsey family this message was also posted on the Ramsey family's website in the message
we find the statement had there been no birth of Christ there would be no hope of eternal life and hence no hope of
ever being with our loved ones again yeah it's suspicious but if there's also a enhance in their Christmas letter
maybe it's again somebody that got that Christmas letter but this is the year after she was
killed no but didn't you say that there was and that there was a in the original
Christmas Christmas letter that people would have got in 1996 as their know and hence and that one I would have to go
back and review that I don't believe that there is a and hence but there this this fact is from their December 14 1997
message this is a memorial to Jon Benet right so that's very suspicious towards Patsy Ramsey
but if again like I said Burke time says and hence and his I guess you can call it interrogation tapes
questioning tapes is it just somebody that's close to the family and knows that and hence is something that Patsy
Ramsey uses so therefore I use it and my letter not so much suspicious towards Patsy
Ramsey but more of a clue that hey I know you or close you know you want to hear one sad thing you you mentioned
their Christmas letter and I I forgot about this this there's so many things involved in this case so many details
involved in this case and regarding their Christmas letter that we we discussed last week that they sent out
to their friends and family yeah they sent it out so late in December I believe I've heard the statement that
everyone but just for the sake of being fair and not having that in my notes specifically I will state that that that
statement was most of the people receiving most of the recipients of that letter received it on December 26th the
same day that they had to tell friends and family that Jon Benet was killed right so just what a sad sad thing for
friends and family you get this happy cheery message about the Ramsey family and then find out that same day the
little girl that you read about in their Christmas message has been killed yeah also in these statements in this letter
we have an unnecessary word over any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your
daughter you will also be denied her remains for proper burial the two gentlemen watching
over your daughter unnecessary words are words that can be taken out of a sentence taken out of this letter
completely in the sentence still makes sense the writer could have stated the two gentlemen watching your daughter
extra words give us extra information what is the difference between watching over someone and watching
someone according to statement analysis dot-com they say the best example is in reference to God if someone were to say
that God is watching over me then you have God keeping his distance he sees the person he or she I don't want to get
into that argument he or she sees the person but also sees the entire world at the same time God can see the person
because they are a part of the world while God is watching over that person they are also watching over others the
word over means God is spreading his watchful eye upon the earth now if someone were to write or to say God is
watching you it becomes more personal it's a focused attention right another example would be if a friend asks you to
watch over his house while he was out of town in this case he probably wants you
to stop by every once in a while and make sure everything is okay maybe you'll pick up the mail water the plants
whatever however if he asks you to watch his house he probably wants you to house
it to stay there right he wants you to be there where you can keep a close eye on things so December 26 I think
something else that we should point out is this would have been a Thursday so yes people are off work normally on
Christmas but there's a lot of people that go back to work on that Thursday so if it's not written by Patsy Ramsey I
believe it would have to be written by somebody that knew that they had time to do this that day possibly somebody that
doesn't have a job or or is off work which could be a lot of people mm-hmm I think it's important to point out well
Santa Claus just spent the whole time working just before that so I'm sure he is off and resting on that day statement
analysis goes on while we're talking about words that are unnecessary they go on to add in a kidnapping the
kidnappers should be watching the abductee meaning the word watching is also unnecessary it would be understood
they will want to keep a close eye on her they want to make sure she does not escape or alert someone that she needs
help they will want to make sure she doesn't harm herself if her being alive is dependent upon them receiving the
ransom when the writer of the ransom note said they were watching over Jon Benet the writer was telling us they
were not keeping a close eye on her there are only two reasons why you would not closely watch your hostage one if
you knew for certain she was alright and could not escape or two if you knew she
was dead yeah since a dead body isn't going anywhere it is something you watch over not keep
a close eye on right so let's be clear about this if it's Patsy Ramsey or somebody in the Ramsey household then we
know that JonBenet is dead and so some of this stuff points to that right my issue has always been the person if it's
an intruder they had time so why wouldn't you write the note beforehand if the goal was to take Jon Benet out of
the house the whole kidnapping just be a ruse they maybe they didn't even want money they just are gonna use this as a
ruse to give them more time right watching over and all that stuff might not make any sense
i to me it's less likely that the intruder takes her to the basement kills our on purpose around an accident and
then decides to write a note my gut feeling it says if it's an intruder the note was written before the death of
John a hmm and it's just and maturity not a seasoned criminal not a you know but I also think a lot of the
stuff is leading to somebody with them decent education decent ability to write I believe the person is giving too many
clues on that they're close to the family and again I don't know if the the dollar amount matters at all mm-hmm yeah
I want to stay on this for a little bit because I personally do not believe that
the what statement analysis com is stating here in its simplest form is that based on the language used in the
letter it appears that the writer already knew that John Binet was dead when writing the ransom note right I
don't really firmly agree with that and I think that when they say that they are
trying to indicate that that means that it has to be Patsy and John or Patsy by herself writing this letter already
knowing that the daughter is dead right I I don't believe that so much but staying staying on this idea of
additional words or unnecessary words I go back to the we are a small foreign faction we are a group of individuals
the men watching over your daughter this is a group the watching over could actually apply the watching over your
daughter could make sense as we can't assume we know everything that the kidnapper has planned regardless of the
long letter left on the spiral staircase this watching over could be intended to
imply simply the men took your daughter I am the mastermind of this operation and I'm leaving the ransom note after
the fact they are elsewhere watching over your daughter right the two men watching over your daughter do not
particularly like you when we look at a copy of the ransom letter we find the writer originally wrote do particularly
like you the word not was written above the space between the words do and particularly a line was then drawn
indicating that the word not should be inserted between these words alright then we have any deviation
my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter you will also be denied her remains for
proper burial the two gentlemen I'm watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you
not to provoke them speaking to anyone about your situation such as police FBI etc will result in your daughter being
beheaded saying that JonBenet will be beheaded is very unusual statement analysis says in the United States we
generally do not talk about beheading people this was put in the note in their opinion to make it look like a foreign
faction was being behind this kidnapping right now for me captain this is the line that I have always questioned the
most let's say Jon Benet died in some kind of accident and then the parents covered it up which
is a very popular theory so they cover it up and then write this ransom letter they would still be very upset about the
death of their small child they would still be grieving parents in a way I can't I have a very difficult time
believing that parents for any reason would reference the beheading of their own child right that it's not necessary
to throw that in that note to cover up an accidental death or something else yeah the small foreign faction and the
beheading makes me think and the season right tis the season for one of the best
Christmas movies of all time and if you don't think it's a Christmas movie you're just wrong
die hard it makes me think that somebody watched die hard too much and went oh yeah foreign faction you know beheading
this is the terms that they would use right if we catch you talking to a stray dog she dies if you alert bank
authorities she dies if the money is in any way marked or tampered with she dies
you will be scanned for electronic devices and if any are found she dies four times the writer uses the phrase
she dies if Jon Benet was still alive the writer should have been speaking in the future
she will die this is a strong indication that the RET the writer again knows that
JonBenet was dead at the time this is again that same website kind of pointing out to that we could have a cover-up
here by the parents yeah again the cover-up makes more sense than but as far as the she dies okay Walt and
she they would say well she will die this could be somebody going well that's this would sound more like a terrorist
would talk that's right she dies and then after this she dies this this is this would be the terrorist or the
threat level being turned up crank it up to eleven right scare the hell out of the out of the parents now I really like
this portion that I found here it states there are three times when the writer used an exclamation point exclamation
points as we all know are used to add emphasis to the statement listen carefully this has an exclamation point
in talking about killing Jon Benet the writer does not use any exclamation points four times the writer wrote she
dies we would expect this to be a point of emphasis in the letter but did not use them when talking about killing Jon
Benet this too may indicate that Jon Benet was already dead in the author knew this at this time there are and you
you've been kind of hinting at this all day long here there are several movie references or close to quotes found
within this ransom letter in the movie Dirty Harry inspector Harry Callahan Clint Eastwood I loved Clint Eastwood is
looking for Scorpio a man who kidnapped a little girl when talking to Scorpio on
the phone several times Scorpio tells inspector Calahan that if he does not follow his orders the girl dies as
opposed to saying the girl will die in the movie the girl was already dead in the ransom note Jon Benet was already
dead another very interesting thing is the letter only names John Ramzi by name no one else first it's mr.
Ramsay and then simply John yeah the note is addressed to mr. Ramsay however towards the end of the letter mr. Ramsay
becomes John well I'd only have a practice note at some point yes where it's a it's addressed to both of them so
in the believed or what is called the rough draft or the first draft often referred to as the practice note
practice letter they find in the same notepad it's believed that that this ransom letter came from the same notepad
that they later found at the top of a page somebody wrote mr. and mrs. I it looks like I because what the the
authorities state is it that is the downstroke for a capital R that the intention was for it to be mr. and mrs.
Ramsay and then before even completing the capital R the author changed their mind and then decided to address the
letter simply to mr. Ramsay just to John Wright which look this is a pad that the
this stuff drives me nuts because it's like the the housekeeper could have said I'm gonna write a note real quick - mr.
and mrs. Ramsay or anybody else that worked at the house gonna sit down so yes they believe it's possibly a
practice note but there's also other explanations or other things that you can speculate that it's that there was
no practice no we don't have anybody to claim that that that little letter right
there you know the mr. mrs. I write I think if somebody were to claim that it would be easily more easy to dismiss but
because we don't have that it may appear to most that a possible practice letter
nobody's saying definitively that it was right but there is evidence to certainly
point that it could be you and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities don't try to
a brain John you are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult don't underestimate us
John use that good southern common sense of yours it is up to you now John again
this is pointing I think to somebody that's closer to the family then this small foreign faction but also it simply
can put point towards Patsy Ramsey well yeah I mean this is an indicator that the the author of the letter has some
general knowledge of John it's it's same as the the dollar amount right it's same
as knowing that he would be able to pay this amount use that good southern sense
of yours that good southern common sense of knowing that he's from Elena right and then addressing him as John I'll
tell you what though for all the reasons that many people point out that the letter itself shows
no level of criminal sophistication I want to point to one sentence that I believe shows a good deal of
understanding and criminal sophistication regarding getting the ransom and that is don't try to grow a
brain John and we know that that's referenced probably from a movie from from speed where he says don't grow
brain I'm on top of you or says something like that and that that's a that's an individual that's looking to
collect a ransom in the movie but this line right here captain you are not the only fat cat around so don't think that
killing will be difficult that to me shows some criminal sophistication right there that to me is the person who's
demanding the ransom to say you know what on top of that don't deviate from these things because there's a lot of
people to say well you don't pay a ransom because you know right away that the killer that the abductor will not
kill the abducted person the abductee because if they do kill then the likelihood of getting the ransom goes
down significantly they've not they've not upheld their end of the bargain everything like this line because
they're saying don't deviate from us because guess what we don't care we will kill your daughter and then we will take
somebody else's kid and we'll give them a ransom and somebody will pay us eventually so don't try to outsmart us
here just be this is a very short way of saying don't try to outsmart us here just do the right thing and pay us
because we'll do this again we're not we're not worried about giving you your daughter back we're not worried about
losing out on the ransom because we because you screw up and we have to kill her well so you have one line that we
believe is coming from Dirty Harry but you say that there's a kidnapping there so that's interesting and then the fact
that there's another line that we go oh that might be from speed and there's a ransom there I wonder if we're missing
other lines from movies well in Dirty Harry there's the line if we catch you talking to a stray dog she dies well
sorry that's from the the ransom letter but it sounds like from Dirty Harry if we if you talk to anyone even if it's a
Pekinese on a lamppost peeing on a lamppost the girl dies dad's from Dirty Harry Harry are we missing some other
references to movies and to me then that's a again I I find it hard to think that John and Patsy their daughter is
it's an accidental death right and they're trying to cover up for their son this is their child doesn't have to be
cover up for their son though there's you know anybody could write directive the accidental death but it right right
you're right but what I'm saying is this is our beloved daughter this is I love somebody point somebody said well even
if they didn't care about their daughter they would have they would have been upset about their investment who makes
those claims towards parents there there is no evidence that John and Pat's patsy
were horrible Satan worshippers and didn't give a [ __ ] about their little daughter so if there's there was an
accidental death whoever is responsible at the end of the day we have a dead six-year-old daughter
so I think for them to sit around and come up with this letter to me it's cutesy oh well throw in that line about
whether you don't what the Dirty Harry's say oh yeah say something like that what
was that movie Lowe's that line in speed yeah say something like that it's too cutesy hmm that their
six-year-old daughter died and it and in this case for whatever reason it's like
oh well they got a little bit of money that doesn't make a monster's she spent a lot of time with her daughter no
matter what you think that is you know the and I am also so sick and tired of people going well they they set her up
and they put her in a position where there's all these pedophiles and and so really even if they didn't kill her if
they're not covering up an accidental death that they really brought this upon their daughter
I'll give me a break your kids ain't safe anywhere I have friends I've been molested by
teachers counselors Boy Scout leaders bus drivers soccer coaches priests pedophiles are everywhere so it's just
the the claims that we can make when there's no evidence beforehand or afterwards of them being horrible
malicious people it's just it doesn't make a lot of sense to me like I said it's too cutesy oh let's try to throw in
some movie quotes well there's no evidence of them being horrible malicious people beforehand either sorry
this to me is the most interesting portion of the letter and actually it's what is not in the letter Patsy is not
named JonBenet is not named but is referenced as your daughter or she right this is interesting because what if it's
possible that the person that wrote the letter did not know the little girl's name or at the very least did not know
how to spell JonBenet that's not a common name I can't think of anybody else that shares that name right is it
possible that they avoided that name because they didn't know how to spell also could the intruder have only known John
Ramsey's name yeah it's a difficult one because you think you know with the intruder theory a lot of people go this
this person must have been obsessed with this little girl well if you're obsessed
with her warning you know how to spell her name and also if you wrote the note beforehand and then brought it with you
or or wrote a note beforehand and brought that with you and then copied it down and you were obsessed with her why
no why wouldn't you put her name but again maybe there's all these little tells that if it's an intruder that they
know the family well right but maybe that was their their I am trying to disagree with that I think that it the
only indicators that we have is that the intruder may know John well again pointing out no Patsy no Jon Benet all
the references that that would indicate that they know of the family and maybe you're just using family in a loose term
there right but it's all towards John mr. Ramsey John we respect your business we know
that you're wealthy with 118 thousand dollars use that good southern sense of yours right all John and there are
theories out there intruder theories that persons believe that the intruder yeah did they do some
horrible things to jump in a yeah they killed her but the the the intent was to was to harm John Ramsey right be it on
an emotional level or whatever not on a physical level but that that was the motivating factor for the death for the
murder or the abduction of this little girl was to hurt and possibly destroy John Ramsey that the the killer or the
abductor hat was seeking revenge against him or was or sought to destroy this man
yeah it makes sense to just focus it on John if you're if the writer is Patsy cuz what would make you think that you
should focus on yourself right so that's where I think people go this had to be Patsy's doing and here's the thing too
and I'm glad you point that out because that's something I think most people kind of skip over
when they look at this case you hear so many people go oh it was the parents or it had to be the parents you can run
different scenarios in your head where it doesn't have to be the parents it could be a parent right it could have
been one or the other it doesn't have to be a united front of of the - right but
you killed covered up and then it's the two of them against the world going forward right because what's interesting
in this case is you have a lot of people that think patsy was up all night long and that her husband he took a sleeping
aid so he passed out and what if all this stuff happened and now she is responsible where she feels that she's
responsible and she doesn't think that John will understand so that she has to cover this all up on her own it's
possible but I also think when I think about the intruder theory is that maybe this person had a affection for Patsy as
well and that that's why they didn't put her in the letter they didn't name her you I mean like if I'm gonna talk trash
to somebody I'll talk a little I'll talk a little stick to John but I want it do
that - Patsy so I'm not gonna do that in the letter when you say that this individual would have it out for John
right mmm the evidence against that is if you have more hatred towards somebody you're not
gonna be so polite you're gonna say you're gonna spew a lot more venom and that doesn't happen and you know you
know don't think you're the only fat cat around don't white like so you're you're
kind of giving them a compliment just in that statement you'd think a lot of more
of like John use a piece of [ __ ] and you're gonna pay us and you know you're a horrible person and your and your
business sucks yeah I mean like but they're too complimentary to him so I I doubt the
hatred then we have the weird ending of the letter the victory s BTC yeah s BTC it appears there's no period after
the letter C just after the other three letters people have for so many years have wondered what could SBT C mean that
has always been one of the most popular questions in this case one of the most popular theories is that it stands for
Subic Bay training center right Subic Bay is a Bay on the west coast of the island of Luzon in the Philippines about
100 kilometers northwest of mulana Bay an extension of the South China Sea its shores were formerly the site of a major
United States Navy facility named u.s. Naval Base Subic Bay which is now the location of an industrial and commercial
area known as the subic bay freeport zone on derp the Subic Bay metropolitan Authority we point this out because many
people have suggested that John Ramsey who was stationed as Subic Bay may have come up with this SB TC because it means
Subic Bay training center however in the description that we just gave you it clearly tells you that there is no
entity that exists with that name right Subic Bay training center that's not what that place was called and as far as
I could find there is no training facility stationed there that nobody would have any reason to refer to the
United States Navy facility named US Naval Base Subic Bay as Subic Bay training center another possibility
captain is the SB TC could mean Saved by the Cross which could mean a number of different things statement analysis says
this is because of the Ramsey's professed faith in God and because the word victory precedes the initials SB TC
as all Christians know it is through Christ's sacrifice on the cross that we have victory
over death the Ramseys were religious and attended church as we mentioned in the timeline patsy beat cancer - and it
has also been suggested that saved by the cross as a reference to Patsy's victory over cancer SB TC could could
have meaning to the perpetrator or to the perpetrators relationship to the Ramseys or JonBenet or what is probably
the most likely situation is that it means nothing at all then it has no real relevance to the case at all
mm-hmm I believe Patsy at one point when asked what SB TC could mean she said son
of a [ __ ] Tom Carter which was someone the family knew but that of course just
seems like like kooky talk I mean it's just yeah she had no filter really right right well I you know what I do like
that about her there is a certain charm John has too much filter right and then Patsy has no filter yeah it's uh
son of a [ __ ] Tom card well there is a guy that they they look into and one of
the new documentaries where he would sign his name he had like aliases and the tea would stand for truth so it was
his alias but he would put truth in there but again they they once you do more research they you go while this guy
was connected to Colorado but he couldn't have been there at the time so I think everybody's grabbing at straws
for this one I question the letters themselves so SB TC that's what we're assuming it is because again I think one
of the things that really points to the fact that Patsy didn't write this note because if she's calling 911 not much
after she already wrote the note right it could have been minutes could have been hours right and they asked her who
wrote the note who's it from and you almost hear you have to you almost hear the thinking
the wheels turning and she has to go to the back and say SBT C then she reads up
victory mm-hmm if she wrote this note she wouldn't yeah your your knee-jerk reaction would be to say victory SBT C
or just simply SVTC yeah without a pause who wrote the note SBT C okay well more likely that she
wrote the note but when she has to search through it because she claims she didn't even read the whole note mm-hmm
she got to the point where they you have my daughter oh [ __ ] I gotta go check on
my daughter oh [ __ ] John John yeah come help me oh we you know John maybe reads the note maybe
doesn't maybe gets to the same part we got to call the police and then at some point you're going hell [ __ ] now we call
the police but they're telling us not to call the police but again she reads up and she says SBT C victory mm-hmm if she
wrote the note like you said start with victory SBT C or say SBT C quicker I question the letters and this is what I
mean by this Patsy Ramsey is the one that determined this is SBT see this is pretty sloppy handwriting I don't know
if that T is a T or if it was supposed to be possibly a J and J because if you look at every other T son-of-a-bitch
John Carter some of the pictures if you look at every other T the bottom swoosh of the T goes out to the right and when
you look at this T it almost looks like there's a dot well it is a felt-tip pen okay so I do want to throw this in there
according to Steve Thomas they had verification from the Secret Service the United States Secret Service that one of
the felt tip pens in the little you know everybody's got their little pen and pencil holder that contains multiple
pens and pencils that that pen and pencil holder contained a felt-tip pen that authored the letter
according to state Thomas and according to what he states is proof from the Secret Service that
they were able to determine that the the dye or the ink I guess would be better to say hmm was was a perfect match for
one particular pen in that that holder well I point that out felt-tip pen because if you anybody that's used them
often knows if you just kind of hesitate to pick up your pen it will leave what what looks to be a dot at the bottom of
a letter or at the at the end of a stroke that you just finished yeah which I get but again I think this is more
deliberate and the reason why is because look at every you when they y-o-u right at the bottom of the why what
happens with their pen naturally goes to the right look at a hundred percent when
they make the percent sign where does the pen go naturally to the right do you see that what was the last one you just
stated I'm reviewing the use so if you look at the use at the bottom of the why always starts curving to the right even
on the on the DS the bottom of the DS oh if you look at the word you when you say
you I thought you meant to letter you yeah you're right with the the Y at the start of the word you and at the end of
the word victory I can see right here on page three yeah it goes to the right a little bit yeah and then if you look at
100% at the bottom of the % it goes to the to the right and that happens over and over almost every Y goes down and to
the right us even the F and you're right on the a goes to the left well on the T
it goes to the left making it a possible J yes just but only on the SB TC so I think it's possible that the person
started hurrying through this a little bit more and that is a s jay-c right could be yeah and could this
old son of [ __ ] Jesus Christ is that what it is no no it could mean anything again it could mean nothing at all could
be here look the truth of the matter at the end of the day is the ransom note is
a farce however you want to spin it whoever you believe to be involved it's a fake meaning whoever wrote it never
intended to receive any ransom I believe that 100% okay so what you're saying is
if it's written by somebody in the family they're covering up their make it there they're making it look like it's
something else and if they're covering up an accident or they're covering up a murder yeah
okay if it's an intruder it could just be a false it could be a farce from the beginning and they're still planning on
taking her and that just doesn't work out and then they left the scene and move about their business I think it
very likely that given what we we know of the wine cellar and what we suspect of the body of Jon Benet that if this
person or this group had any intention of taking this little girl and removing her from the home that this letter was
constructed to buy them time meaning when the the thing with the intruder I'm kind of with you and I'm not saying that
I believe it to be an intruder but if it were if I were to say yes I believe this
was an intruder that's responsible for the murder of JonBenet I believe that the the intruder theory only works if
the letter was written was constructed before the attempted abduction of this girl right and that there was no really
true intention to ever return her there was no true intention to collect on that
ransom that this would have been more likely a sexually motivated crime and the letter was constructed to by this
sicko time right and that could be for either any number of purposes or just simply
for the purpose of getting away of fleeing the area or distancing themselves from the crime itself don't
contact police if I can do anything to stall law enforcement from the if I can do anything to stall the experts from
getting involved then I'm gonna do that because we knew we all know if you don't
solve this thing in the first 48 you don't have a suspect in the first 48 first 72 time is the killer
time makes it more difficult to solve these cases and this is a particularly complicated one and so I believe that if
it were even an intruder the idea would be to distance themselves from the investigation to slow the start and
progression of that investigation that I point to that for several reasons because even if somebody look we know
that she's killed we know that she's killed somewhere in that home and then the body is left somewhere in that home
even if the kill the person killed her had intended to take her for the purpose of a ransom you would still remove the
body because you could still collect on that ransom even though she's dead the parents don't know that she's dead right
and even and even if they were even the sentence of denied a proper burial indicates that the author of the letter
understands that even the return of a dead body has some value so I don't really believe that there was ever in
any intention of collecting on a ransom and we went through the timeline I will contact you between 8:00 and 10:00 a.m.
tomorrow to give you instructions there was no contact nobody ever reached out for any reason
at all I think it is also very important to keep in mind I I think one of the smartest things that that Steve Thomas
added to this case is where he states that 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. is so confusing because we don't know what the author
means by 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. because this crime we're talking this all went down in the middle of the night
if if the abductor it attempted the abduction after midnight well then 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. tomorrow could mean the
next day so I I think it's all it's all very lost sense yeah Manny again I think I believe that the
person if it was an intruder they wrote it beforehand and either copied their own note and tried to make a couple
corrections to it or whatever yeah and and that's why we have those little scribble marks but I think they wrote it
beforehand there's too many cutesy like little references and little things about like Hollywood not even so much
even if you say they're not quoting any movie it just sounds like stuff that would come from a movie they could just
be quoting things or not specifically quoting movies but just again grabbing window dressing that that comes to mind
right when they think of all what would a what would a kidnapper who wants a ransom right right what what do I think
a ransom letter should look like and that's why I think it's what what I believe and I'll go forward moving
forward with this is that I believe the ransom note is the ransom letter is a complete farce and that either points to
it points to motive for me either it's a cover-up an inside job that had to be covered up or it was in fact an intruder
and the whole purpose of the ransom letter was constructed in advance and it was constructed to slow the
investigation to to delay the start of the investigation maybe the parents don't call 911 right away because
they're scared and they believe the letter they believe they're going to get their daughter back that doesn't have to
have any indicator whether the author knew in advance that they were going to take the girl or or kill the girl inside
it has no nothing to do with that at all it just points everything in this letter
to me that nobody had any intention of collecting okay so crispy Colonel if if you had to bet right right now if you
had to wager your whole life savings mm-hmm one hundred eighteen thousand dollars one hundred eighteen thousand
dollars and you had to wager that against a small foreign faction is this coming from inside the Ramsey family or
is this coming from outside the Ramsey family okay I would walk up to the window to the the betting window and I
would place fifty nine thousand dollars that the author of the letter was an intruder and then I would place my I
would wager my remaining fifty nine thousand dollars that one of the Ramsey's are both the Ramsey's wrote the
letter how you like that wager right there yeah that's a horrible answer I'm gonna go if I had to bet it's intruder
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Brief Summary

Hosts analyze the JonBenet Ramsey ransom note, discussing its implications and potential authorship.

Key points

Introducing the Jeffrey Epstein Podcast. A new podcast series hosted by Vicki Ward explores the life of Jeffrey Epstein.
The JonBenet Ramsey Ransom Letter. An analysis of the ransom letter reveals chilling threats and odd phrasing.
Ransom Note Analysis. The ransom note's wording raises questions about the author's identity and intent.
The Significance of $118,000. The choice of ransom amount may relate to John Ramsey's Christmas bonus.
Handwriting Speculation. Analysis suggests Patsy Ramsey may have written the ransom note, but uncertainty remains.
The Significance of 118,000. The number 118,000 appears in John Ramsey's personal notes, raising questions about its significance.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

You stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to outsmart us.

Threatening tone in the ransom letter.

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Tension

60/ 100Some tension

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