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[Music] I drove to a police department here on Persia that you guys are closed I need
to bring someone into the police department can you tell me where I can the closest one I can come into what
what are you trying to accomplish by bringing them to the station I have a 22 year old person that has Grant bath
sitting in my auto with me so the 22 year old person stole something yeah is this a relative yeah
where did they steal it from um my car and also money okay is this your son daughter
okay so your daughter stole money from your car yeah my car was stolen we retriever
today we found out where it was at I've received it I've got that and I've got affidavit for my banking account I want
to bring her in where where did all of this happen oh it's it's been happening I don't know
but I need to establish a jurisdiction is what I'm trying oh I lived in um in Orlando yeah but what address did these
thefts occur at um well I guess my residence but yeah that's actually going to be in the
jurisdiction of the Sheriff's Office man I'm not going to Orlando Police Department all righty let me transfer
you over to the communications section Orange County okay now is the Orlando Sheriff's Department the one on
436 that is that open this afternoon this evening um the substation you're at on Pershing
if it's Orlando Police we're open primarily during the day but that's not the sheriff that's City
police which does not have jurisdiction fear I remember the sheriff's department
on 5th I mean on 436. well what I'm going to do is I'm going to transfer you to the Sheriff's Communications section
and you can determine that hold on okay so my next thing will be down to Trout thing and we'll have a court order
together if that's where you want to play we'll do it and you'll never well then
now I'm not giving you another day I've given you a month 9-1-1 what's the address what's
happening um I have someone here that I need to be arrested in my home they're there right now hi for their
missing child I have a three-year-old that's been missing for a month a three-year-old
yeah have you reported that I'm trying to do that now ma'am okay what did the person do that you
need arrested my daughter for what for steering an auto and stealing money I already spoke with someone they said
they would patch me through the Orlando Sheriff's Department have a deputy here I was in the car I was going to drive
her to the police station and my one's open they said they would bring a deputy to my home when I got home to call them
so she's still your vehicle yeah when did she do that um on the 30th I just got it back from
the impound I'd like to speak to an officer can you have someone come out to my house okay okay I gotta ask you these
questions so I can put them in the call okay okay 30th of June yeah okay how old is your daughter 22.
hey what's your name my name her name her name and you said you have this vehicle back
yes and I have the statement she's there right now yes I got her I finally found
her after a month she's been missing for a month I found her that we can't find my granddaughter
um five foot one and a half thin medium or heavy built then color hair brown what color shirt is she wearing White
what color pants oh they're short they're um clad they're like pink and teal and white black plaid
does she have any weapons on her no is he not telling you where her daughter is correct
okay we'll have Deputy out to you as soon as one's available okay thank you thank you bye
911 what's your emergency but my daughter's been looking for I told you my daughter was nursing for a
month I just found her today that I can't find my granddaughter she just admitted to me that she's been trying to
find her herself there's something wrong I found my daughter's car today and it smells like
there's been a dead body in the damn car okay what is the three-year-old's name Kaylee
c-a-y-l-e-e Anthony Haley Anthony yes okay she wiped her Hispanic who's White how long has she been missing for I have
not seen her since the 7th of June what is her date of birth um eight eight nine two thousand oh gosh she's
three she's two thousand five assistant poker a month ago okay I just can I I understand I can you
just can you calm down for me for just a minute I need to know what's going on okay I'm gonna try and talk
is your is your daughter there I'm on the phone with them is your daughter there yeah can I speak with her
do you mind if I speak with her thank you I called them two hours ago they haven't
gotten here and they finally admitted to say he took her a month ago ma'am ma'am
okay they want to talk to you answer your questions hello hello yes hi well can you can you tell me
what's going on a little bit I'm sorry can you tell me a little bit what's going on
my daughter's been missing for the last 31 days yeah and you know who has her I know who
has her I tried to contact her I actually received a phone call today now from a number that is no longer in
service I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment about a minute okay did you guys call and report
a vehicle stolen um yes my mom did okay so there's been a vehicle stolen too no this is my vehicle
what vehicle was stolen um it's a 98 Pontiac Sunfire okay I have deputies on the way to you
right now for that so now you're now you're three okay your 300 is missing Kaylee Anthony yes white
female yes white female three years old eight nine two thousand five is a date of birth yes and you last saw her a
month ago 31 days from 31 days who has her do you have a name her name is Zendaya Fernandez Gonzalez
who is that babysitter she's been my nanny for about a year and a half almost two years
why why are you calling now why didn't you call 31 days ago I've been looking for her and have gone
through other resources to try to find her which was stupid okay can you can you give me the name of
the nanny again like spell it out for me z-e-n -a-i-d-a Fernandez Fernandez hyphen Gonzalez
I think the officers are here the officers are there yes let me hold on a second don't hang up
with me yet [Applause] I need you okay [Music] Kaylee Anthony was born August 9 2005
she lived with her mother Casey and Casey's parents George and Cindy Anthony in a ranch-style home in Orlando Florida
Casey was 19 when she gave birth to Kaylee in June of 2008 the two were still living with George and Cindy
Kaylee is now two years old and Casey 22 years old on June 9th Casey and Kaylee move out of George and Cindy's house and
move in with Casey's ex-boyfriend Ricardo Morales and his friend Amy on Sunday June 15 2008 Kaylee goes with
Cindy to visit Cindy's father in an assisted living facility later that day Kaylee and Cindy swim together in the
Anthony family's above ground pool this is Father's day and before the night was
over there was going to be a showdown in the Anthony household and I'm guessing that this was not the first of its kind
Cindy who was 50 years old she is attacking Casey's parent printing skills or lack thereof right Casey decides to
argue back and this argument becomes pretty heated and at one point allegedly Cindy is threatening that her and George
are going to take legal custody of Kaylee and at some point Cindy has her hands around Casey's neck
George ends up defusing the situation and everybody they just kind of part their ways but did a pretty heated
argument takes place that evening the next day is Monday June 16th now this is a work day and at this time Cindy is a
nurse and she works during the day George is working basically a second shift security job his work day
typically starts at 3 P.M so after Cindy leaves for work we would just have Casey
and Kaylee and George there for the morning hours until Casey goes off to work and Kaylee goes to the babysitter's
apartment George would later say that he last Saw Casey and Kaylee as they left the house at 12 50 pm at 2 30 p.m George
left for work and this would be the last time any of her parents actually see Casey with Kaylee yes in the next few
weeks George and Cindy do not see Casey or Kaylee they they did however talk on the phone with Casey several times on
these occasions Cindy would ask to speak with the little little Kaylee and each time she would be unable to do so
because the child was with her nanny or at an amusement park but she was the little kid was always busy doing
something and Cindy would not be able to speak with her Casey would tell her parents that she was she was quite busy
mostly with work uh and some personal things as well and where is she working at she was currently working at the very
popular Universal Studio Theme Park on June 30th a 1998 white Pontiac Sunfire was towed from a store parking lot the
vehicle was considered to have been abandoned and was transferred to the Johnson's Wrecker Service impound lot
on July 3rd Cindy posted on her Myspace page the following this precious angel from above gave me strength and
unconditional love jealousy has taken her away jealousy from the person who should be thankful for all of the
support given to her on July 7th pretty much we can assume in retaliation Casey post on her own page what is titled
Diary of days that says what is given can be taken away everyone lies everyone dies life will never be easy one for
kids that don't understand what Myspace is MySpace was basically the precursor to Facebook
but again don't you don't need to air your dirty laundry on social media for everybody out there to see huh yeah well
I just think it's hilarious like oh I'm gonna make this statement and then and I'm not going to address who I'm talking
to and then they're going to make a statement it's just very childish on July 15th George Anthony at he's at home
does he post on his Myspace page George got on there and said yes everybody does
die and everybody lies I don't have any posts from George but on the 15th of July when he's at home he receives a
certified letter from Johnson's Wrecker Service this notifying him that the 1998
Pontiac Sunfire registered to him and his wife Cindy has been sitting in the impound lot George then calls Cindy
Cindy is at work and the two go to retrieve the vehicle this is of major concern to both George and Cindy because
even though the vehicle is owned by the two of them the vehicle was primarily being used by Casey to to the point of
well you'd probably just consider the car to be hers right and this was the car that Casey and Kaylee had left the
Anthony house in on June 16th right and this is going to be pretty alarming to the parents because not only are they
worried about their daughter but they're also worried about their granddaughter yeah the two were supposed to have been
on a mini vacation in Jacksonville Florida so finding this vehicle abandoned is very scary for them they
get to the impound lot but before George attempted to start the sun fire he asked
the impound lot attendant to check the trunk of the vehicle with him they both smelled a terrible smell inside the
vehicle and he thought they better check the trunk because George thought it was
possible that he might find the body of Casey or Kaylee or maybe even both of them in the trunk with the with the
vehicle being abandoned right now listeners are probably thinking how does this make any sense well let's go back a
little bit with George's History George was a police officer for a time period and also in his transition phase of work
he was also a security guard so at his time of being uh in law enforcement he smelled
you know a dead body correct and so he feels like what he is smelling is that of a dead body and the crazy thing here
to Captain is that not only does George have that experience but I don't have the gentleman that from the impound lot
I don't have his name here with me he's actually familiar with that experience as well because they had they had towed
a vehicle at one point and there was they found a body in it right you know days after it sat on the lot
um instead you know the two men they popped the trunk uh and thankfully so they they find a white trash bag full of
garbage uh this kind of explaining the smell to the two men uh George looked in the bag the attendant then removed the
bag and threw it in a dumpster the vehicle they found was out of gas so they put a little gas in the car and
George drove off in the Sunfire Cindy was Furious about the car uh and so she makes some calls to some of Casey's
friends because she wants to not only is she Furious that the car has been towed
I mean they had to pay a small fortune to get this car back and then on top of that you know this is a car you're
letting your daughter use right you're paying the insurance you're you probably paid for the car yeah and you're you're
helping out your kid this car is abandoned but but also you're probably worried worried about your child's
safety one this is you know here's somebody that they keep enabling and enabling uh George in one of his
statements to the law enforcement claims that there was multiple times where you
know she would steal gas from the home or she'd steal money you know cash out of here and there to fill up the tank
but also she had an easy pass and instead of slowing down for the Easy Pass or no maybe she didn't have an easy
pass but she would claim well I threw the money in there and the you know the toll pass for anybody that doesn't know
so we have some states have tolls that you have to pay and she would go through these toll
Lanes claim that she put money in it and then come back and he would be fine because the car was registered in their
name correct so whoever the car is registered in has to pay those fines and so this guy is going look we help you
with your daughter you know we help with our grandkid we pay for your gas we pay
for the car we pay for the insurance and you can't even pay the toll right right
and now I have to go down and fish this car out of an impound lot and then on several occasions too they they believed
that Casey had used their credit cards or charge cards without permission so this is kind of an ongoing thing and I
think what takes over here is you might lose track about worrying about the safety of the kid and now you're just so
Furious that this is just continually happening again and again right and when when uh they go to visit the grandfather
that's in the nursing home that's another thing that's going on is they have a separate bank account that has
money for him am and there's actually some suspicious some suspicion that Casey is taking money from that account
as well so they got a big problem on their hands yeah yeah so Cindy she tracks Down Casey uh calling some of her
friends and finds out that Casey is in fact she's not in in Jacksonville at all uh she is at her boyfriend's home uh
this is Tony Lazaro and Cindy drives out to Tony's condo she of course finds Casey there she is trying to get Casey
and Kaylee to come home and she starts telling Casey that you know what if she can't talk Casey into coming home then
she would just take Kaylee and take Kaylee home with her but Kaylee is not there she's not at the condo Casey
finally agrees to go home with Cindy Cindy then calls the police on the way home right those are the 911 tapes you
heard earlier yeah and she wants to charge her daughter with stealing the vehicle and stealing some money from her
once they get back home Cindy calls 9-1-1 again requesting an officer to the house so that she can make a report
against her daughter then a short time later a third call is made and of course we we just heard all three of these
calls uh earlier but it's the third call when little Kaylee is finally reported missing not by Casey but by Kaylee's
grandmother Cindy one has to wonder had Cindy not gone to Tony's condo and track
down Casey that night how long would it have been until little Kaylee would be reported missing right currently we're
at 31 days and what's interesting about that 9-1-1 call the third one is when she is calling and she's she tells Casey
hey they want to talk to you and you can hear faintly Casey Anthony say I don't have anything to talk to them about
now your daughter has been missing for 31 days and you don't got anything to talk to the law enforcement about
that you know that's pretty strange to me well when the Orange County Sheriff's Department arrive at the Anthony home
it's detective Yuri melish that will be in charge of interviewing the family and
taking statements George had told melish that George had once worked in law enforcement up in Warren Ohio and that
Casey was not being truthful and that they had retrieved the car from the impound lot earlier that day and that
the vehicle smelled and these are his words smelled like death right malish focused on Casey's statements he asked
her to repeat her story several times and even asked her if she would like to change anything before he took a sworn
statement from her she did not want to change anything and she delivered the same story time and time remember she
has nothing to talk to them about well Casey stated that she had last seen Kaylee on the morning of June 9th so we
have a discrepancy in days already Casey took Kaylee to the babysitter is on her
way to work the babysitter is not let's just let's be clear about this discrepancy she's saying well the last
time I saw my daughter was June 9th right but the last time that any of the family members recall seeing her with
the granddaughter is on the 16th June 16th right the babysitter's name is Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez more famously
known as zany The Nanny yes and she according to Casey lives in Orlando's Sawgrass apartments in unit 210 which is
located on the second floor Casey said that she went back to the apartment after work to pick up Kaylee but no one
was home no one answered the door she called zenaida's cell phone and again no answer
Casey states that she waited in front of the apartment for a while expecting them to return she then went
to Blanchard Park where Zenaida sometimes took the kids right after which she then went to some stores and
shops where she thought she may find the babysitter with Kaylee which makes all logical sense I go to pick up my kid
from the babysitter they're not there well where could they be right and also you know
the films are pretty popular at this point so you could be making some calls you can be sending out some text
messages she tried calling her and says that that there was no answer on the phone so she
goes around looking for Kaylee and the babysitter even at the stores in the shop but again this doesn't pan out and
she decides that after not being able to find the two that she would go to her boyfriend's condo where she had been
staying since uh she said that she was staying at Tony's because she felt safe there and
that while she was staying there she was actually conducting her own investigation to locate Kaylee and to
get her daughter back um she didn't contact law enforcement because she had seen on TV and in movies
that when a person is kidnapped or taken hostage that people get hurt once law enforcement is contacted
Casey was asked to produce the babysitter's phone number which she says she doesn't have this number memorized
but the number is stored on her phone which has been left at her office at work at Universal Studios
Casey says that she has known Zenaida for years and she's been watching and taking care of Kaylee for almost two
years a year and a half to two years she says that she met Zenaida from a mutual
friend his name is Jeffrey Hopkins Casey worked with Jeffrey Hopkins and Jeffrey's son four-year-old Zach was one
of the kids that Zenaida was watching and caring for as well then law enforcement are going to wonder well if
you didn't tell your parents you know that 31 days ago that The Nanny took your kid who did you tell yeah yeah so
she states that she did tell some of her co-workers she told Jeffrey Hopkins who
we already mentioned as well as Juliette Lewis another co-worker at Universal Julia Louis okay when asked if for an
investigation had provided any intel she says no uh what efforts did she make to
track down Kaylee Casey says she tried to make contact with zenaida's Mother Gloria she in fact made several attempts
to call and get touch with Glory Gloria Stefan yeah uh could she give the detective
Gloria's phone number and she states know that she could not uh double checking that this is not simply a
custody dispute they inquire about the father of Kaylee and they learn from Casey uh that the father's name is Eric
and Eric had died in a car accident Casey's parents tell the detective they have never met Eric
detective melish asked Casey if she had any problems with narcotics specifically
cocaine ecstasy meth or anything like that Casey States no she doesn't have any drug problems melish then asked if
Casey had ever been to Lakeside which is a local mental health facility and she states that she has not we're going to
get right back to the law enforcement questioning of Casey Anthony right after this quick beer break
[Music] foreign [Music] cheers mates so we are still at the Anthony household and law enforcement is
asking questions to Casey regarding The Disappearance of her daughter Kaylee now
remember she had stated that she had in fact told two co-workers that the nanny had run off with with her daughter and
she was conducting her own investigation right they want to know more about these
co-workers and this is Jeffrey and Juliet that we had mentioned earlier so they asked you know does Juliet still
work at Universal Casey says yes she does well what is Juliet's job Casey says that she's an event an event
coordinator okay great can you give us her phone number no she cannot and in fact this
must have triggered some memory because Casey explains that she was mistaken that Juliet does not work for Universal
anymore that she left two months ago and moved back to her home state of New York
so let's go to zenaida's apartment and see what's going on over there right right so they asked Casey
if she could take them to the babysitter's apartment of course she can and she said that she would she would be
pretty sure that she could yeah that's a that's a flag there right yeah yeah because when I dropped my kids
off at the babysitter I'm not really for sure which apartment they go into well Casey Anthony leads them to the
apartment complex and then to the upstairs apartment unit of 210. now she gets out of her car that gets out of
that police officer's car and says she lives in that one well the sheriff's department quickly discovered that no
one is living in the apartment uh malish then asked if uh if she could think of any other place where Zenaida would have
lived before you know she started living there well now now look I I don't know if this raises that many red flags
because if you had takes somebody's kid you might not be there right you might just pack up all your stuff and hit the
road well Casey explains that she knows where zenaida's mother Gloria used to live and she says that she could take
them to Glorious with the sound machine apartment complex they arrive as directed by Casey and this turns out
that the place is a home for the elderly melish checks with the home no one there
has ever heard of Gloria surprise surprise they drive around with Casey until three in the morning and then they
take her back home to the Anthony's and when they get back to the Anthony's so they drop her off but what's interesting
here is that George is going to come out and talk to the police officers yeah he's he's going to tell melish that
Casey has been lying to him and that there is something very suspicious going on in his opinion and that the detective
should continue to investigate this the next morning Casey and Cindy spend most of the morning building Myspace and
Facebook pages for missing Kaylee Anthony oh yeah that's yeah they were also texting and calling friends and
persons in the community to organize a search and spreading the word of Kaylee's disappearance and I yeah I
think it was uh the day before or that day was when there was a mass text message group you know where you group
everybody and I think she's uh Casey sends out a huge text message to everybody all her contacts saying hey
look my daughter's been missing now for 32 days and and you know if you have any
information I think the Nanny took her well it's around noon that Casey is picked up by the sheriff's department
and they are going to go looking for Casey's phone at her work so they can start reaching out to the babysitter and
the co-workers uh you know she she didn't know these phone numbers so we have to get to that phone right Casey
agrees to go with the officers to Universal Studios however she informs them that her phone has been stolen and
this occurred while she was at work she has reported the incident to loss prevention and they are looking for
Casey Anthony's phone right when they pull up to the security check-in gate at Universal Casey does not have her
identification badge with her oh really she explains that she has lost the badge
the officers convinced security to let them through they pulled up to an office building
Casey takes the officers inside makes a left-hand turn and walks them back down a back hallway when she suddenly well
you're missing a part of the story because they actually talked to one of like the front front of house people and
she's saying hey well I need to talk to this person well what's their extension well this is their extension
there's nobody the extension didn't work right right so this guy has no clue you
know so not only does the front gate let them through but the front office then they go okay well if you want to search
around maybe I am mistaken you're here with law enforcement you claim you work here so okay find your office yeah and
when she goes down this Corridor or it goes down this hallway they go to a dead end yeah
and and then she turns around and says uh I don't work here yeah okay I don't work here and and the police officers
kind of they kind of had their suspicion that this was the case anyways but they
wanted her to come out and and be the one to say I'm lying yeah and I think they wanted to give her
enough rope to hang herself as the old expression goes um what they were able to confirm is the
following they did confirm that Casey had in fact worked at Universal at one time however she had been fired April 24
2006 when she failed to show up for work right which was like two years prior the
detectives are at Universal with her on July 16 2008 and she hadn't worked there for
over two years right a quick check of the names of the co-workers that Casey had said she told about The
Disappearance of Kaylee Jeffrey Hopkins uh he did work at Universal but he was fired back in 2002 and Juliet Lewis did
not exist they couldn't find any record of her at all Julia louis-dreyvis right yeah and and Casey had also said that
her Supervisor was Tom Frank uh Tom also did not exist well that's a horrible name to come up with Tom Frank yep well
that was her boss welcome to True Crime garage my name is Tom Frank well they decide to arrest Casey and they take her
back to the station for further questioning and even when they confront her with her lies Casey sticks to her
story um she claims she did not know where Kaylee was and again the last time she
had seen her was with Zenaida with the babysitters now okay here's a list of the lies so
far one your kid didn't go missing on the ninth your parents saw the kid with you on the 16th so lie number one uh I
work at this place I've been working there for two years she's been telling your parents that you've been working at
this place for two years lie she's with the nanny she lives here lie yeah well they they
confirm I work here they confirm that not only did Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez not live there
um she never lived there right that apartment had been vacant for 142 days no one had occupied that space for 142
days right and so then when she says well I told this person at work I told this person at work one person worked
there the other two people were made up now the police officers have to be thinking that zany the nanny is probably
a fictitious person well I mean we got a slew of Lies you know and then again oh well we're going
you've been lying to your parents for 30 some days right so every time he called and every
every time you talk to your parents you lied yeah for 31 days she wasn't in Jacksonville like she said she would be
she was at the boyfriend's apartment uh and then furthermore you know the the crazy thing here Captain is
people lie I get it right there there are people out there that lie but the thing that seems very crazy to me is
that she has given detailed lies she's she's come up with names first and last names of people she's given them job
titles she's also stated that Juliette Lewis was an event coordinator who just quit two months ago and returned to her
home state of New York right yeah and she went on to tell that you know Juliet Lewis came from a a
well-to-do background that she grew up and he worked on the Seinfeld show she grew up in New York and then she moved
to Florida uh to go to college and then afterwards she started working at Universal so she's got this whole life
story for some of these people we're talking about Jeffrey Hopkins uh she states that he has a four-year-old son
Zach who is being watched by the same Nanny as her daughter Kaylee I mean these are these are extensive lies here
you're making up fake people and then giving them fictitious well look that makes a lot of sense hey if you're a
fake person why wouldn't you have a fictitious son you know what I'm saying I mean
I look there are some people that are just chronic Liars habitual Liars yeah that's the ticket and that's what she is
you know well she's arrested and charged with child neglect this is for failing to report Kaylee missing especially
after this much time has passed and she has been lying to law enforcement obviously Casey was originally assigned
a public defender lawyer however she had asked a relative to contact a private attorney to see about taking her case
attorney Jose Baez was operating a small firm in Kissimmee Florida and he gets the phone call his secretary sent him to
the jail to meet with his new potential client Jose was unaware that this case had been on the news at this time when
Baez arrived at the jail there was a public defender waiting there to meet with Casey the public defender advised
Casey not to speak with anyone one that the case had been on the news and detectives would probably be going down
there again soon to meet with her for further questioning and she should not be talking with anyone unless she has an
attorney representing her and present during any and all talks the public defender then left why because
everything she's going to say is this you know Malarkey anyways the public defender then left and Jose Baez meets
with Casey Anthony for the first time and what they have to do is they have a bond hearing set so they got to figure
out what the bond is and then if can they pay that so she can actually go home yeah the first thing that Jose says
that he believes to be strange about this whole case is that when he's reviewing Casey Anthony's paperwork it
clearly states on their no bond and most of the time with these lesser charges especially for someone without a
criminal history usually they set a reasonable dollar amount to sit to set for this person to make bail right I
think the problem here though is what he he's not understanding is when you lie to in law enforcement over and over and
over and we have a missing child that's under the age of three we might start suspecting Foul Play
immediately well and you're exactly right and that's something that he quickly realizes he does realize that
you know what this this phone call that I got regarding a child neglect case uh is in fact a missing person's case and
this could very likely turn into a homicide case Jose Baez then goes and meets with Casey's parents for the first
time and he's explaining he's explaining what he's going to do is file a motion to get Casey out of jail during this
visit Cindy would explain to Jose the many excuses that Casey had told her during the 31 days that Kaylee and Casey
were not at their home you know we don't need to go through all of these stories
because we all obviously know now that these were all lies most of the excuses involve Casey's job which we know she
didn't have and the nanny which after learning about the apartment looks like nanny The Nanny doesn't even exist right
and then let's just get that whole part out of the way the the police do eventually find an individual with this
person's name uh so zany the nanny is real but she didn't know who Casey Anthony was or Caylee Anthony never
heard of him and there is no connection it just so happens that they found somebody with that name it also just so
happens that Casey Anthony also picked a pretty you know common name and she might have knew about this person
somehow beforehand well and I think they were they were further able to confirm that this this real Zenaida that they
found never in fact worked as a babysitter or a nanny in any capacity at all right right right so let's just get
that off the table so after agreeing to an attorney fee of five thousand dollars
Jose Baez becomes Casey Anthony's attorney on July 17 2008. now it's on July 22nd that Casey Anthony had her
bond hearing the judge ruled that because Casey was now a suspect in the Disappeared case that they would be
setting a bond much higher than usual and they end up setting the bond at five hundred thousand dollars after this bond
hearing Casey told Jose that she has something very important to tell him Casey said that she was in her cell when
an inmate came by and with her hands she signaled to Casey five and then five the
inmate was staring at Casey and her lips with her lips she mailed the words timer
55. Casey explained that what this actually had meant was what had actually happened
to Kaylee stating the following that Casey wait you sure she wasn't trying to say primer 55. uh according to according
to Jose Baez it's timer 55. okay timer 55 and we'll let Casey Anthony explain what that means I can't trust the damn
thing she says go ahead she says that that that her and Kaylee were with Zenaida at Blanchard Park
Zenaida took Kaylee and put her in her car in zenaida's car when Casey asked what the woman was doing Zenaida grabbed
Casey and with a very hostile tone had told her that she was not a good mother and that she didn't know how lucky she
was and that she was going to teach Casey a lesson Zenaida jumped in her car and as she was
pulling away she said that she would make contact with Casey giving her further instructions Casey said that Zenaida
contacted her and told Casey to change all of her passwords to timer 55 on her computer okay an interesting thing here
though Captain is that investigators did find that Casey's Myspace and Facebook passwords were both in fact timer 55.
Casey said if you count 55 days from June 16th the date that Kaylee was last seen even though she claimed it was the
ninth okay you get August 9th August 9th is Kaylee's birthday uh stating this is exactly 55 days then
is it if you if you do you know what I didn't I as I'm reading this I didn't look it up but this is this is Jose
baez's story that he that that as told to him by Casey Anthony um do you want to look it up real quick
we could yeah hold on so it's technically 54 but if you count the 16th you know then then we do get to that 55
days timer 55 that's that's odd and yeah I actually dove into this case a bunch and I actually haven't heard about this
yet so well so exactly 55 days from the day that she took the girl until the girl's birthday on August 9th and
Zenaida states that she's going to give Casey instructions to go to different places around Orlando to get Kaylee back
on her birthday uh she says that Zenaida would post the places and instructions on Casey's Myspace and Facebook accounts
and then erase them shortly after so there would be no trace of this and that Zenaida could easily do this because she
in fact had the passwords to those accounts um this is when Jose Baez says that he
realized that there was something very off about his client uh he said that this the in his conclusion either that
Casey is is an extremely bad liar or she's completely nuts I mean to tell him such stories after he's already told her
stop talking to me about Zenaida we we don't believe she exists you need to come up with a you know you need to come
up with a different story you need to help us find your daughter to get you out of this trouble and then she comes
up with this elaborate timer 55 story uh well it sounds like you're uh you're a little nutso well not right exactly
because not only is this an elaborate lie but then on top of that to believe that zany the nanny has the power to to
get an inmate to you know to tell you about this to remind you about timer 55 as you're sitting in jail
she's probably talking about primer 55. well around this same time um Cindy Casey's mother had requested a
private meeting with Jose Baez and Cindy said that she had something very important that she wanted to tell Baez
and she was telling him this because she needed bias to relay this information to
Casey Cindy told Baez that she had received a letter from a man in Maryland who was
planning to plant a rose bush in the Anthony's backyard for Kaylee's birthday and that Cindy needed Casey to tell them
the exact spot where to plant the bush as a memorial to the little girl uh Baya said that he he felt that this was a
little strange as well but he he took the message to Casey anyway and Casey offered no information as to where to
plant the bush basically stating you can plant it wherever you want I don't know
what she's talking about well it's just weird because it seems like it's all code you know like we're going to have
this rose bush planted almost like tell me uh I'm gonna try to give this code to
my daughter hey tell me where to plant this bush in my yard thinking that maybe Casey will get the hint of did you bury
your daughter in our backyard yeah or did she die in a certain spot in the yard right yeah it's almost like a
fishing Expedition where you know does did the mother come and I I want to be clear here about this this story with
Cindy um the only person that I've heard tell this story is Jose Baez so you know
there's no way to confirm that this actually took place um I don't I don't see a reason why he
might lie about it um kind of a weird story to lie about yeah but but the thing that we're seeing
here there's a lot of weird lies already yeah yeah this this this whole thing is
a bundle of Lies uh well remember Captain we talked about the 500 000 Bond um to get Casey Anthony out of jail well
nobody don't change nobody in the Anthony family had the funds to post the bond for Casey um but nonetheless
someone did come forward um uh and Baez wanted Casey out of jail not only so she could be with her family
and assist with her defense but also that she could possibly help find Kaylee in the process search yeah yeah so
August 21st 2008 uh we have a new character enters the story we have Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla and he
pays not Dog the Bounty Hunter no he pays Casey Anthony's 500 000 bail now Leonard Padilla was a bounty hunter uh
with a show on National Geographic Channel um his goal was to become more successful and more popular than Dog the
Bounty Hunter had a hit show and Leonard paid the bail I think all you have to do
is start making a bunch of racist remarks and you'll become more popular than dog or more hated right yeah so he
Leonard pays this bail and I'm guessing this is of an obvious effort to promote his show his name and his firm
um you know that's a lot of money he did make an agreement with the defense that
his company would be able to be in the Anthony home watching over Casey that's just creepy well Casey was well they
gotta watch over their investment right I understand and Casey was fitted with an electronic tracking device uh but
Leonard's firm believed that Casey could be a suicide risk the security officers
that watched over Casey have of course gone on to give their interviews about their experiences and they have said
that very quickly after they became involved they knew they would not have to worry about suicide they could
quickly tell that Casey cared far too much about herself and that she would never commit suicide they have also said
that that another eye-opening moment for them was when they first got her home you know she's been in she's been in
jail for quite some time and the first thing it was like 30 some days if you want to hit pause we can count the
calendar we're not counting any more days but she's been in jail for quite some time
and at this point they they bring her and the first thing that she said when she arrived at home was what's for
dinner prison food sucks um you know nothing to do with her missing daughter uh you know now we have
a three-year-old daughter that is still missing and would have celebrated her third birthday less than two weeks ago
before this discussion about dinner took place while Casey was locked up uh you know not what's going on with the
searches not what's going on with the case just what's for dinner right uh one of the main leaf
what's for dinner one of the male officers had said that he believed that Casey was often flirting with him he
believes that she was someone that that might use her sexuality to manipulate situations you think uh but anyway when
when she is released bias drives her home in his SUV accompanied by the security vehicles from Leonard's firm as
they get closer to the Anthony home they start to see the protesters signs you know signs saying things like baby
killer and burning hell [ __ ] and lock her up amongst a whole Army of other things right and look we should be
pretty clear about this because what happens in Florida is that anytime that there's information
that is known to the police department I believe that they have to disclose that
well that's that Sunshine Law I believe it's called where the Freedom of Information uh Sunshine Law that they
have down there where it's almost everything is public record at some point and not only that but this this
story's been on the news and amongst most of the public she's probably already been convicted because she's not
behaving the way that you think that well the mother should well at this point people are probably hopeful that
they find their you know her child that they find Kaylee the problem is is that from the get-go your kid's been missing
for 31 days and you didn't tell anybody uh what's what's up with that right you know right you you are a piece of [ __ ]
well and I think that when she was released that this is when this thing really turned into a circus I mean it
was already a media frenzy from very early on but this thing got crazy I mean protesters basically setting up shop in
front of the Anthony house pounding you can see them pounding on the door getting into fights with George there's
one part where Cindy she's out front waving around a hammer yeah she's just screaming like she's too legit Too Legit
to Quit but she's waving it around almost like she has the image of hitting somebody with it yeah because she's
she's a I mean look the Apple doesn't fall fall too far from the tree here and that's all I'm going to say about
that well this this release from jail didn't last very long because just eight days later the sheriff's department
arrest Casey again this time it's for writing bad checks remember when Casey and Kaylee went to live with her former
boyfriend and his friend Amy well Casey had stolen some of Amy's she stole Amy's
checkbook and wrote four checks right uh this this is during the time that the state started so let's start look look
let's dive into this for a little bit because one the initial claims that the mother said hey he stole my car uh she
didn't steal your car okay you the car was registered in your name and and your daughter had access to that car right
and you gave her access to that car I would argue she was the primary user of that car that like I said you could
basically call it that Casey Anthony's car with the exception of it having you know a different name on the title right
that that car was not stolen but if there's money being taken for from the grandpa if there's money being taken
from your account take them from your purse take them from your house if if she's stealing uh you know you know
going over and you know the gas can for the lawnmower if she's taking that and putting that into her car you know this
is all uh parts of being a theft and when you have no job for two years you got to come up
with money some have to come up with money somehow especially because the people you were living with believe you
to be working this entire time right they see this woman get up every day and leave with her daughter and supposedly
go off to work dropping the kid off somewhere I mean that's that's one hell of a
marathon lie right that's not just like uh that's not just a little white lie that you just got to get through the day
with this is something you get up and you repeat day after day after day for for damn near two years all right so you
know no more beef for dinner they lock her ass back up yeah for the checks so she picked up for these these
fraudulent checks and it's at this time that the state starts talking about working out a possible deal with Casey
Anthony that they might be willing to throw out some of these lesser charges that Casey is facing and trade for the
location and or confession regarding her daughter Kaylee right of course this deal is refused
um on September 5th well I didn't hear the timer 55 you know story you didn't buy that you didn't think that was you
know reality on September 5th Casey's parents post bond for her um I don't know how much of the bond
they actually came up with sometimes these things they can work out deals if your house is worth a certain amount of
money so forth and so on you have certain amount of assets um but they basically get their daughter
out of jail and again she is fitted with a tracking device and and released one more time right it's on September 15th
that Casey turns herself in this time it's because of new fraud charges and false identification and petty theft
yeah she spends one night in jail and then she's released the next day because she's she's only being held overnight on
these new charges which are all pretty small misdemeanor charges uh but she at least amidst to those I I don't know
that she admitted to them but it was something they could only hold her for a night on those well but she turned
herself in she turned herself committing to this I think I think you're exactly right there Captain so
she spends the night in jail she's released the next day and then on October 14th Casey Anthony is indicted
by a grand jury and she is looking at first degree murder charges child abuse manslaughter and giving law enforcement
false information okay okay uh how does this make any sense though how can you charge somebody with manslaughter
when there is nobody well I don't understand the whole legality of the situation but from what I what I believe
is that when a grand jury meets and they decide that there is reason or cause to
believe that a murder occurred right then then there's a separate investigation that goes on and I believe
they can detain somebody that's being investigated for that don't I don't want to be emailed by every lawyer in America
that's that's my understanding these are the facts though she was arrested right
okay so so we have this little hobbit person right Casey Anthony and she's lying to everybody and she's making up
people right and then she makes up this timer 55 story which you gotta believe is real it makes
so much sense yeah so and then you man that we that that the planning of the rose bush is so strange
yeah yeah and and we'll kind of get into this I I don't know do you want to get into the the conversations with them at
the police stations and in jail because one of the things that's like I said with the Florida the Sunshine Law or
whatever it is kind of this transparency thing when she's in jail she's being you
know visited by her mother and her father and also visited by her brother and their and these tapes are recorded
you can actually watch them in their entirety they actually give the inmate almost an hour to have conversations
with these individuals and I don't think that there is like a set amount where like if your lawyer shows up you can
talk to them for an hour if your parents show up you can talk to them for an hour
right uh and all these tapes are released you know so if her parents met with her let's say on a Friday
some of these tapes were being released to the media Outlets by Monday morning it was not taking that long for them to
be released that's why when you said you know there is no body found there is no
you know as far as we know Kaylee is still missing at this point right but because of all these weird interactions
and the way she is acting on these tapes the public immediately starts going this troll did it right
well I tell you what I've seen the tapes at length and I've seen the cut versions
that they show on TV um I would throw a little warning out there to to everybody listening that the
cut versions look she doesn't look she doesn't make herself look good in the long version or the cut version yeah
she's not good with makeup and I would I would say though captain that I believe
that some of the the TV stations may have made her look even worse um yeah they did they did cut things
um and they slightly manipulated uh some of the interactions especially with the
parents I didn't notice it so much with the brother and her but more so with her
and her parents where they would kind of clip they would you might have a very lengthy question and she might give a
very lengthy answer and instead when you see it on TV you're going to get the the
clipped version of that question with the with the most worst part of her answer uh right and the odd actions are
lying like look at this point of covering this case yeah very odd actions you know she's lying we know that but
that doesn't mean that you're a murderer and that also doesn't mean that your murderer of your daughter but there's
some very interact weird interactions and like I said about the rose bush thing is so fascinating to me is if you
watch the clip her brother Lee I believe his name is Lee Anthony yeah so you got
Lee Anthony and Casey Anthony talking um and she's just always so bubbly in these these jailhouse interviews
um or Communications she's bubbly in most of them but she's also hysterical in some of them wouldn't you agree I
mean not yeah but hysterical is probably not the right word because I think hysterical irate right irate would be
the more correct word I think because if you think hysterical my baby is missing
I'm crying I'm hysterical no she doesn't ask about her child I don't think she ever brings up her child first
it's always the other individual whether she's talking to the parents or she's talking to the brother and they bring up
the child now look that's that's odd and if you watch the stuff that Lee Anthony
talks about it's very strange to me because uh and I I think I texted you this when I was watching saying hey if
I'm if I'm ever in jail and you come to talk to me right don't ever talk to me like this ever
because he goes through this whole laundry list of by the way our conversation will be recorded oh by the
way if you want to communicate with us through letters this is how you have to do it right this is the chain of command
if you just give it to your lawyer your lawyer might read it you have to give it
to this person and if you give it to anybody else that letter can be read so very strange and then she is also you
know making some friendships with some inmates while she's in jail right right well you know what you you made me
wonder about something here you know we talked about the road the rose bush right and that was a a story that came
from Jose Baez that that he is told that he is to deliver this message from directly from a one-on-one conversation
with Cindy to Casey and then hopefully get some kind of answer that he's going to bring back to her and in another
private conversation give her the answer and you're right it's very cryptic and but but does that make you it makes me
wonder what's going on here is this is this Cindy trying to figure out if her daughter did it
yeah or is it Cindy trying to assist her daughter in in her in her innocence or Proclaim her
to be innocent by possibly moving something right like tell me where the body's buried I'll I will dig it up and
I I will I'll put it somewhere else and if they don't ever find this it's going to be a lot harder for them to
prosecute you right that's what it feels like to me I think you're right when we
sat down here today it felt more to me like Cindy was trying to figure out if her daughter was guilty yeah well she's
been on the fence about this and she needs some answers and even if it's even it no matter how she has to go about
getting it she's willing to do so but as we sit here and discuss it I think you're right I think I think maybe she
was looking to help or move or something yeah but if you watch the interaction between uh George uh Cindy and Casey
it's very odd because there's multiple times where the mother you know is looking at Casey and saying hey
look at me look at me in the eyes yeah now what the mother wasn't understanding was I have to look at a monitor
to see you talk and by doing so my eyes go down so I can't really do that but there's multiple times where it's like
okay what what else do you know what can he give us never mind the fact that you gave law
enforcement all types of [ __ ] right right oh I mean you're making up people you know
what I mean you know what I'm saying with a full with a full background story for each person you're like oh yeah
yeah this person this uh zany The Nanny oh yeah she's real oh on top old Tom Frank
[Music] all I can think is like Tom Hanks Big shout out to all the Tom Franks out
there yeah if there's a Tom Frank that listened to this show cheers me dude so do you what else did you did you find
anything else odd about the interaction between Cindy and Casey I I think she kept on as much as she was talking about
well first of all let's just the elephant in the room is when she goes well right now our concern has to be uh
Kaylee right right and then then the troll says well definitely my I don't know I don't
know she's gonna try to make a voice I was gonna do a voice for the troll but Casey is basically saying that that I
understand yeah I am concerned but what about me yeah my life is being taken from me everything's being taken from me
me me me me uh I know a lot of moms right oh you do that sounded real bad hey I'm
the captain and I know a lot of moms um no it sounds bad but none of my friends would act like that if their kid was
missing no no they would be hysterical they wouldn't be irate they'd be hysterical they would be crying it'd be
hard to console them they couldn't even lie to you because it'd be hard for them
to get out anything but tears This Girl's Not Crying you know everybody else is tearful everybody else is
fearful she's not crying well she she wants to know what's for dinner she's CR she is
crying at times but but the times that she appears to be crying to me is when she gets angry about something right or
or the focus is either on her or not her if that makes sense you know what I mean
like it's it's almost like a sympathetic cry for herself right rather than for the situation or the situation that her
daughter may be in um and again with the anger when she cries when she's anger angry it's for
herself it's not for she's angered because she can't find her daughter right right when I but I think some of
it too though is when you've told so many lies that when you are telling the truth or
is anybody believing you that that would be a question too and so now she's in jail
right and uh she's gonna the grand jury indicted her so she's going to be charged but at the end of the day we
don't we still don't have a body correct we yeah we've not gotten to the body yet
there's a lot that we haven't got to with this case you know usually when we pick these cases Captain sometimes we
can sit down and we can determine you know we used to do one show a week and that was that was a lot of fun um and we
would have to cram everything into one episode go back to one show a week and now we've been doing two because we
found that with most of these cases uh there's just so much to cover that we can't get through it in one show uh the
problem with I think we found our calling the problem with this case so far Captain is we've got several items
that we didn't get to yet today so tomorrow's show is just going to be jam-packed yeah this this case is like
this crazy onion and that keeps peeling back layers and there's just so much more to this story and I never really
understood why so many people were fascinated I believe my ex was really interested in this story in 2008 and was
always watching uh Nancy Grace and uh I'd always hear all the time when I was making dinner top mom top mom thought
you would hear the yelling of Nancy Grace yeah um beautiful sound that's a golden voice
she has so anyways um I I never really understood why people were so fascinated about it but
but the the amount that I've dove into this and I know the amount that you have dove into this this is is a very
fascinating case so much more to get to and we'll get back to it tomorrow here is an interview with Casey Anthony's
parents December 9th 2008. [Music] we now welcome George and Cindy Anthony the grandparents of the missing Florida
toddler Kaylee Anthony they last saw her in mid-june how you holding up we take one day at a time
you know it's it's very hard a lot of sleep loss lost a lot of weight you know we just take one day at a time
when does your last see Kaylee I lost our on June 16th the day after Father's Day
what happened the day she went missing um until July also she'd been missing how long when you
found out about a month that's strange um well not really um my daughter you know had her and
um you know we just we just assumed that Casey and Kaylee were you know off visiting friends
George why wouldn't your daughter call you and say Kaylee's gone that's really a good question I
I know we kept in contact with at least Cindy did almost every day or every other day
a little text message here and everything was fine so what do you make of it I mean he's your daughter you have to
have some yeah why wouldn't she not why would she tell you that tell you I think she's
um I think she was frightened I think um from what we understand that you know there's been threats to not only
Kaylee's well-being but also to our family's well-being by by the people that have Kaylee
do you think Kelly was taken your daughter obviously knew she was taken for what purpose
how you know the the person that originally has her or had her um we've had three or four different sightings with
the same description that Casey released that they finally released on this person
um and the the zeneda that the police department Tracked Down was one out of thousands
that Casey said right from the beginning was not the correct person they just now
released within a couple weeks ago the actual description of the babysitter and we've had three that I'm aware of tips
that have come in since June the people describe this person to a t that had Kaylee what does your daughter think
George well our daughter thinks that Kaylee needs to be found and she said what does
she think happened oh she's already told us that this Danny this babysitter is one of Hazard who denies it
well the one at this like Cindy just said about the one at the sheriff's department our local sheriff's
department had brought to my daughter's attention it's not her so let's go back to July 15th Cindy
here's part of the 9-1-1 call that you made 9-1-1 what's your emergency services
for a month I told you my daughter was missing for a month I just found her today but I can't find my granddaughter
she just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself there's something wrong I found my
daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car
do you suspect your daughter no never in all of this never I have not from day one I have it
um you know Casey has been a loving very caring mother and um I could see that first night
um that she was very frightened when the sheriff's department arrived at the house I mean she was devastated she was
on the floor um just beside herself and she has been very emotional since day one which hasn't been reported her
main focus has been as same as ours has been look has been looking for Kaylee since the very beginning
when they arrested her were you shocked George oh absolutely when they took her into
custody the very first time I was just appalled because I wanted him to number one put an amber
alert out for my granddaughter which they never did they never contacted the FBI that I wanted to contact
I mean I have a little bit of knowledge in some stuff and you would really think
that they'd want to have some someone's wanting to have helped them with assist trying to find a beautiful
three-year literal girl and all I was trying to do was trying to help them and yeah why do you think they wouldn't
had their mind made up they had their mind made up you know they picked out a Zenaida Gonzalez
they picked out a 38 year old woman when Casey told him it was a 24 year old woman they picked out someone that had
children right and she told them she had no children you know they from the very
beginning decided how this was going to take place they made judgment on her within two
hours of having her in custody and that's the way it's been they have not assisted us into looking into finding
Kaylee and we believe she is alive I got it I want to get to that have they set a
trial date um right now January 5th and no death penalty right they were moved they had
it and removed it they removed it you don't realize the whole United States is looking for
Kaylee I know that one I went back Casey Anthony by the way was interviewed by members of the Orange
County Sheriff's Office July 16th his part of that why didn't you call prior to today
I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself which obviously I couldn't
and I was scared that something would happen to her if I did notify the authorities
or got the media involved or my parents which I know would have done the same thing
the fear of the unknown fear of the potential of Kaylee getting hurt of not seeing my daughter again
why do you think she was arrested in charge George because they had to like Cindy said that
her mind made up it was just too easy for them to just close the book on this and say well we're going to charge you
with uh your daughter just appearance and just be done with it did they ever look at why a mother would kill a
daughter I mean did anyone have a question motive right there is no motive and they
haven't found a motive they even said they haven't found a motive they they told us they thought it was an accident
and she's scared and she's trying to cover it up killed her by accident and then like buried her they don't feel
there's the motive have they looked for the child we've had five searches done by the sheriff's department done by
Tim Miller with Texas equisearch and it's come up with nothing there's nothing that they have found
that you know has given them any evidence that Kaylee is no longer with us who do you think she is George
oh Kaylee she's with hopefully a loving family just taking good care of her we got a
Chile today um four o'clock today um right now being investigated by um in Tennessee
someone spotted a girl who looked like her yes in the grocery store in Tennessee and my investigators already
spoken with the Tennessee authorities and also the tipster and we're just waiting to see if there's any
um you know any video in the store you don't realize if they find Kelly this is a terrible miscarriage of
Justice well it's been a terrible miscarriage of Justice however you want you must understand the Authority's
Viewpoint here here they are with the Dilemma of this woman a nanny that doesn't Nanny says I didn't do it I
wasn't with her he waits a month before telling I mean they certainly have grounds for suspicion don't you think no
they they told us one in our area there was 11 just in Orlando they picked out one there's
Casey told him to check New York or Miami because she had a New York license she told them that they pulled up a Ohio
license bottom line is Kaylee's out there we've had people from June the 20th that have given us sworn
statements that they have they have seen Kaylee in Orlando we have sworn statements from July 2nd with people
that are out there can't sleep at nights because they've seen her in July we had people that we
met last night that saw her in California just two weeks ago how do you how do you fight with someone
or you know say if they're sitting four feet away from this child and they say that they're positive that this is
Kaylee because they've seen her picture for the last six months four feet how old would she be now three
now let's let uh let's listen to a bit more of Casey's July 16th interview with authorities
or is there anything that you want to change or divert from what you've already told me no sir
um did you cause an Andrew to your child Kaylee no sir did you hurt Kaylee or leave her somewhere and you're worried
that if we find that out that people are going to look at you the wrong way no sir
can you tell me that Zenaida took your child without your permission and hasn't returned it the last person that I've
seen with my daughter let's take a call Winston-Salem North Carolina for George and Cindy Anthony
hello hello George and Cindy I am so sorry for the trouble that your family's been going through I just wanted to ask
you Cindy when you first called the police you said something like it smelled like there was a dead body in
the trunk of your daughter's car and more recently you've said that you believe that it was maybe old pizza and
I was just calling wondering why you uh changed your mind on that um I changed my mind on that I never
changed my mind on that what I stated was the car smelled okay the um I was told
by my husband and also by the gentleman at the tow yard that there was a bag of food that contained pizza and maggots in
the car I went down and I I spoke myself with the manager of the tow company and
he told us that that was the cause of the smell in the car I don't know of anybody that has ever
smelt decay of food that's been in a car trunk for 19 days in Florida heat I've opened my refrigerator and made the
comment something died in here following Casey's arrest in July on child neglect
and other charges George and Cindy visited her in jail here some of the surveillance video from that
I don't care what I have to do when I told them I would lie I would steal I would do whatever by any means
to get her back that's exactly how I feel it's the truth Casey we have to find her before her
third birthday that's coming up fast uh there were reports of photo shots I think of of your daughter partying and
the like and out having a good time during all this while her daughter's missing explain that
um there was one photo out of all the photos that have been showed of her partying that was after June 16th one
and what we have learned that that is a staged photo that those are photos that they use to
entice other people to come into that club that she would have gotten paid for that photo
so in fact that she was working and we have proof of that we're uh George's Kaylee's father
uh Kaylee's father lived somewhere in the Carolinas I believed at one point he's deceased okay he passed away I
brought around her second birthday oh so she was still around when he died right
he was never part of her life he hasn't been Sioux Falls South Dakota hello thank you Larry my question is for
George um George removing yourself from your family I know you were a professional uh
in the department what was your professional opinion of the smell in that trunk my professional opinion is I never
really realized how long it would take a garbage to smell for 19 days or 18 days
inside of a car in Florida be honest with you what is what do you do George right now
I'm in the security field you know being in law enforcement for years and I sort
of stayed in the security field off and on over the years so after moving we're in law enforcement in Orlando no never
was in Orlando no I was in law enforcement 20 some odd years ago so so you would understand law enforcement
psyche to a point yes possibly yes but then again I know what I feel inside that
that's like Cindy says inside that bag was garbage there really was it was pizza I mean I seen it I mean I I know
what was in there and there's no way you can fathom Cindy your daughter harming your granddaughter no there's nobody
that has come forward that has ever seen said anything other than that Kaylee was
an excellent mother so there's Casey has done nothing to her daughter there's no evidence that shows
that um and I can with a hundred percent of my being say that I believe that Casey had nothing to
do with Casey Kaylee's disappearance we have a little more to show you from inside the jailhouse watch
your gut telling you right now okay okay and your gut tells you that she's close or some she's she's
not far I know in my heart she's not far I can feel it oh boy this is uh are you optimistic
that you're gonna find care I mean how do you feel about it oh it's been a long time well well for the last
weeks we've gotten probably our best sightings um we had one in the middle of November
right in Orlando um two women very credible more than 10 feet of her watched her for 20 minutes
took photographs of her um this last couple that we met last night that saw her you know a week after that point
we're within four feet of her so she's somewhere you think absolutely why do you think so many people
get angry at you um because they only hear one side of the story they only see what um is put
out there by the Nancy Graces of the world and um the Leonard dealers of the world
they don't look at themselves and look at their own families and and figure out what they would do if one of their
children was missing you know there's a very there's a there's a lot of people that are in our shoes and there's a lot
of people that will do one of several things they'll either go into a recluse and they'll just withdraw you could do
that or you could get up every morning and you can fight for the people that you love and we're not gonna I'm not
gonna sit back and worry about what people think about us because my focus is on Kaylee and anybody that wants to
criticize me for that that's their problem Nancy Grace convicted your daughter absolutely the answer to Grace
is the reason why there are people out there but I'll tell you what there's just as many people that watch Nancy
Grace that only watch her because they don't have local media like we do in Orlando keeping up with with Kaylee
that's their only outlet they don't believe in the things that she's doing in fact they tell us that when this is
all done when Kaylee's home they're never going to watch her again so thank you both very much
[Music] we'll see everybody here tomorrow and until then be good be kind and don't
litter [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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July 15, 2008 - Orlando, Florida- a two year old girl is reported missing. Her grandparents have just tracked down their daughter Casey but their granddaughter Caylee is nowhere to be found. During the course of this evening it is revealed that the little girl has been missing now for 31 days. The mother says she left the baby with the nanny but she won't give her back. Today we review what has often been called the biggest case in America since the OJ Simpson case.

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Brief Summary

The episode details the Casey Anthony case, focusing on Kaylee's disappearance, police investigations, and family dynamics.

Key points

The Case of Casey Anthony. A deep dive into the tragic case of Kaylee Anthony, who went missing under suspicious circumstances.
Emotional 911 Calls. Cindy Anthony's frantic calls to 911 reveal a desperate search for her missing granddaughter.
Family Tensions. The heated argument between Casey and her parents escalates, revealing deep family rifts.
Casey's Alibi Unravels. Casey claims she last saw Kaylee on June 9th, but family recalls seeing her later.
The Nanny That Never Was. Detectives discover Zenaida, the nanny, doesn't exist as described by Casey.
Timer 55 Revelation. Casey Anthony's passwords were linked to a mysterious 'timer 55' connected to her daughter's birthday.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

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