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GameChanger John B Ramsey she was strangled with a cord little myth Colorado 6-year-old murder victim John
Ben Ramsey unknown Intruder her [Applause] brother Victory John B Ramsey oh my God
they still have not interviewed the parents I Didn't Do It John Ram didn't do it and we didn't have a clue of
anybody who did this my life has been H from that day forward and I want nothing more than to
find out who was responsible for this Mr ramsy listen carefully we are a group of
individuals that represent a small foreign faction we respect your business but not
the country that it serves at this time we have your daughter in our possession She is safe and unharmed and
if you want her to see 1997 you must follow our instructions to the letter you will withdraw
$118,000 from your account $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20
bills make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank when you get home you will put the
money in a brown paper bag I will call you between 8: and 10:00 a.m. m. tomorrow to instruct you on
[Music] delivery the delivery will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested if we monitor you getting the
money early we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your
daughter any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your
daughter you will also be denied her remains for proper burial the two gentlemen watching over
your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you to not provoke them speaking to anyone about your
situation such as police FBI Etc will result in your daughter being beheaded if we catch you talking to a stray dog
she dies if you alert Bank Authorities she dies if the money is in any way marked
or tampered with she dies you will be scanned for electronic devices and if any are found she
dies you can try to deceive us but be warned that we are familiar with law enforcement counter measures and tactics
you stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to outsmart us follow our instructions and you stand
a 100% chance of getting her back you and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the
authorities don't try to grow a brain John you're not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be
difficult don't underestimate us John use that good Southern common sense of yours it is up to you now John Victory
[Music] sbtc okay most people use the phrase Ransom note I'm going to call this a
ransome letter because as you just heard it is long most Ransom notes are short we we have your daughter we want
$500,000 do not involve the police we will contact you this Ransom letter is 2 and 1/2 pages long written on your
standard run-ofthe-mill 8 1/2 by 11 and 3/4 in paper now what you're going to hear is the captain and I tear through
this Ransom letter you're going to get our opinions on different pieces of this letter as well as the instructions given
to John Ramsay on how to get his daughter back our opinions are going to be a combination of our personal
opinions plus information that we've collected from other sources along the way who have scrutinized this same
Ransom letter I'll start us off Captain with this up at the top of the letter at
the beginning of the letter yeah there is this great website out there that's called statement analysis.com okay so
some of our thoughts or some of the things that we mention here will include their thoughts as well they are a great
website because they analyze these types of Ransom letters as well as 911 calls and they have experience doing this you
and I well we got a little bit of experience ourselves doing this as we've been doing it now for several years but
statement analysis.com they State as well as a couple of the books that I've read on this case the first line that
they kind of question is the we are a group of individuals and they point to to this because a lot of people says
this letter as a whole just doesn't make sense right and one thing that I want to
keep in mind here and we kind of you know did a little running around in our discussion last week about this case but
I think what's very important in the John Benet Ramsay case to keep in mind when you're looking at each one of these
items as we are going to do I think you need to stay fluid and you need to stay in the moment of what's going on with
the case you know we were talking about the police showing up and how they didn't secure the scene and uh you know
people would point out well they don't even know if it is a crime if a crime took place right why should they secure
it again I believe that you want to stay fluid in that moment when you show up you have indicators pointing toward a
kidnapping for ransom and so therefore it is a crime scene so obviously we do know some things that are going to come
to light we can look at those as much as we want but in the moment keep in keep in mind in the moment stay fluid as we
go through this statement analysis.com as well as several other sources again points out that the letter is a whole
does not make sense and they specifically reference the line of we are a group of individuals pointing out
what exactly does that mean what does the writer of this letter mean right because every group is
comprised of individuals I think it's a lie we are a group of individuals you would just say we are a group that's
true the other thing too that John Douglas would point out in his experience with Ransom letters is that
often the the kidnapper is the authority in the situation they're the ones that are going to call the shots they're the
ones demanding The Ransom you're going to do this or that or this or that's going to happen or not going to happen
yeah and he points out in his experience that often a you want to perceive a larger threat
than what is actually going on because you as the kidnapper really only knows what everything that's going on the
victims don't know everything that's going on they only know what you choose to tell them in your letter right so
John Douglas would point out hey we are a group of individuals we are a group if
it was in fact just one person that kidnapped and and wrote this letter then that makes sense to him because they
would want to present themselves as a larger than life a larger threat they're bigger they're scarier it's not just one
person it's a group right and that evidence is followed back uh we represent a small foreign faction I
think just that term is to back up the idea of a group of individuals the small foreign faction makes it seem like uh
something bigger and then when you get to we respect your business but not the we respect your business but not the
country that it serves yeah again I think that's to back up the small foreign faction uh this sounds very movie like
to me yeah my thoughts here they represent a small foreign faction the use of the word small doesn't make sense
to most because now it's it's the opposite where you say we are a group you're trying to make yourself seemed
bigger the threat seemed more real bigger now small is taking that down a notch foreign faction sound scary sounds
scary to me but it it's weird just those words together the use of the word foreign sounds odd even if they would be
foreigners to us they likely wouldn't call themselves foreigners they would say something like we are the Islamic
Jihad right they wouldn't call themselves a small foreign faction I I think I think it was Ser uh sirel W's
book where he States even a small foreign faction would not call themselves a small foreign faction it's
just a weird weird statement yeah but I think right away it's it's establishing the mindset you know this individual
thinks that they're going to outsmart people with this nonsense um I think the biggest thing in the letter to point to
that it's not a group of indiv uals is when he changes the narrative and I'm going to say
he but when he says I will call you I will call you between 8 and 10 a.m. now I'm jumping some lines there
but I think that goes back to a group of individuals the wi turns to I correct and to me that's proof that there was
never a Wii that that's like a Freudian slip right yeah that's that's interesting
because at first analysis for me what my thought was if he's saying and I agree with you we continue to say
he if he is saying we are a group oh and these men have your daughter right you follow my instructions maybe he's the
leader of this group maybe he's the brains The Mastermind behind this whole operation and he's the one that's going
to be giving the instructions what makes that not work that theory not work is as
you just pointed out that it starts with we and it ends with I so it does change
along the way yeah and I think some people would argue well because he's not with the other two individuals so that's
maybe why he changes to I will call you because they're going to be with your daughter but that's too much information
it's almost like stating like once he goes to I again if there's a group well they're with your daughter they'll be
monitoring you I'm not going to be with your daughter mhm very strange but I think also we can
start by looking at this note and I think it's pretty clear to most people that it
starts off a little sloppier and gets nicer as we go with the handwriting yeah the
penmanship yeah not a lot nicer but a little bit nicer and I wonder um okay so there's so much to get
into one where did this individual write the note we we do know that the the paper this came from a pad inside the
Ramsay's home that's right there was a pen that was found in their home that they believe was the PIN for the
note so this could go multiple ways did the person possibly steal the pad write the note and then bring it
back my issue with that idea would be well yeah you wrote the note but why would you bring back the pad doesn't
make sense to me mhm but the note seems creased which to me why would you crease
a note if you're writing it in the kitchen or where that pad would be and then you're just transferring it over to
the steps why crease it at all the crease is very weird to me as well and I'm I'm with you that I've never
thought of the idea of somebody writing the letter elsewhere and then returning it to the scene not that that's
impossible anything in this case in particular anything seems to be possible the crease is odd because wouldn't your
objective your goal as the kidnapper who wants a ransom now there's people out there going well we you know we know
this and we know that again I'm staying fluid in the moment and analyzing this particular item this is evidence as it
is in the moment if we are to believe the ransom letter the goal of the the author of this letter would be for the
parents of this girl to find the letter as soon as possible why we know that because of instruction given in the
letter do not contact the authorities if they discover their daughter missing before they find this letter they could
very well screw up that whole instruction by not knowing any better and calling the authorities our daughter
is missing right we haven't found the letter yet why crease it pany Ramsey says she finds it on the spal staircase
and it's three pages and it's laid out side by side so we know that at some point the letter was not to be concealed
it was to be obvious it was to be found by the parents and for the sake of of not contacting the authorities well I'll
tell you what why why don't we try to start at the at the top of the letter and just work our way through and try to
hit each thing along the way I think it' be easier for us all to play along at home the letter starts off addressed to
Mr Ramsey not to John Ramsay not to John and paty not to the parents but to straight up Mr Ramsey which I find to be
interesting for several different reasons it it's a choice that the author is making it's a choice to only address
this to Mr ramsy a lot of these Ransom notes that we've seen in the past they don't even
need to address it to anyone the line that we have your daughter clarifies exactly who the letter was intended for
right so it was a choice to address it to Mr ramsy now one thing that a lot of the TV shows and documentaries point out
in this case the next line is listen carefully and they all point to that being weird because this is a letter
it's not a speech it's not somebody shouting threats at somebody or calling on the phone this is a letter you're
reading the words the words say listen carefully you don't listen you're reading I get it that's never seemed
weird to me I I've always taken that as just like I'm the authority listen carefully here we go yeah I think it's a
little strange it almost sounds like something You' say on the phone calling them listen carefully I have your
daughter yeah but I also think is it that big of a deal probably not but also I wonder if that points in any direction
on where they got this possible idea to kidnap a girl in the first place all right then we have the letter we respect
your business okay we have your daughter we want $118,000 or she dies but oh by the way
Mr Ramsey here here's a mild compliment we respect your business right shows that they almost care about Mr Ramsey at
some on some level and some people have pointed out that if paty Ramsey was the author of The Ransom letter that she may
have chose to mention this to create some kind of distance between Jon's company and the investigation right
regardless the writer is aware of John Ramsay's business per the letter and that he is successful right if the
writer is interested in a ransom they are targeting what many believe to be a weird amount of money
$118,000 in cash at the ready MH according to Steve Thomas's book John Benet inside the Ramsey murder
investigation from a leading detective on the case the author wrote We D letters do with the do crossed out we we
do respect your business de detective Thomas takes that to mean either we do respect your business or the author was
starting to write out we don't respect your business but then changed their mind mids sentence this this you really
have to question as it goes to motive right because at this moment in the investigation looking at this letter
this is supposed to be laying out the mo for what is going on here and it would point out that the author is if Thomas
is right that they were starting to write don't we don't respect your business right that the author is
undecided if they respect Ramsay's business up until the point of writing that sentence if it is an intruder who
wrote The Letter it's just weird you broke into this man's home and according to the
letter to kidnap a small child and threaten the parents with the beheading of the child yet you're undecided on how
you feel about J's business yeah but I also think to me this point says somebody copying a
letter mhm uh my gut feeling says that this letter was composed somewhere else and they thought to be I'm going to be
real smart about this and get away with it so therefore I'm going to write the letter inside the house I'll use a pen
from inside the house I'll use a paper from inside the house I'm going to bring the letter that I wrote with me and it
might have stated we do respect your your business but then messed up and then realized well you can just put we
respect your business that works too but there's obviously there's an edit there
but I but I I believe the person is reading off their letter and maybe there's not a lot of light in the house
and so again I also think one of the reasons why it's sloppier in the beginning beginning a lot of people when they
start riding it's a little sloppier but I also think it's sloppier because this individual is now wearing
gloves and so I think you know gloves and could be very nervous right and maybe the nerves are easing up as they
continue to write I I kind of am with uh Steve Thomas here on his thoughts about
believing that the writer was intending to write the word don't we we don't or we do not respect your business
because we do respect your business or we respect your business is the same sentence and it's not necessary to cross
out do in that in that moment so that seems weird now the writer goes on to say we respect your business but not the
country that it serves so are we to believe that John Benet was kidnapped and then murdered because
someone has a hatred for the United States most people would agree this crime is not an international
incident so it's just weird to put that in there that to play that toward motive
you know maybe there's many factors based into why you are going to leave this letter but to include
we you know the the we don't respect the country that it serves that your business serves it just seems a a very
strange thing I think this is pointing out to what you say it's not a group it's not a small foreign faction but if
we mention some distaste or or hatred for the United States in that same letter it it's there to it's purposely
put there to confirm that we are a foreign entity right right again I think it's as
simple as I'm going to throw some of these things in to try to throw you off the scent of who I really
am but I think the fact that they sit there and say well we respect your business that's a they' made that choice
therefore they're showing some kind of concern for Mr ramsy later on they show some concern for him when they say uh
you know be rested uh cuz the the delivery will be exhausting I advise you to be rested you would not put that if
you didn't care about the person on some level this is another example of people
say well this shows that py could have wrote the note because she the wrer keeps showing affection almost for John
on some level Captain I respect your talent but not the garage that it serves all right deal with that well get out of
my garage then well as you pointed out the writer misspells two very common words uh one of them being business and
the other possession however the writer then correctly spells the words deviation and attache even including the
accent on the word atache many believe that the writer purposely misspelled those two words to
try to make it look like an uneducated person or again a foreign person wrote this note yeah and a lot of people point
that to be py ramsy and the idea that okay we're sitting down to write this note we're trying to disguise our
handwriting so we make it a little more sloppy at the beginning that's hard to keep up over 2 and A2 pages
so that's why the sloppiness goes away but also at first went oh let me misspell a couple things to throw them
off the scent and then they kind of forgot about that cuz I don't think there's another misspelling for the next
page and a half I guess as you point out Captain both of the misspellings occur when there is a double s double letter s
situation I think maybe this could be a tell almost like a signature or fingerprint if in fact this was not made
up up right I want everyone to just stop and think for a minute do you have a couple of words that for whatever reason
your brain just seems to Jumble up the letters in those words or or or screw up the spelling of those words regardless
of how often or many times you look the word up have it autocorrected or ask somebody for the
spelling Captain did you think of any words that that that you have trouble with fish
Pony hip hop hip-hop Anonymous damn you you give him all the easy ones oh the whole English language is very difficult
for me to spell anything correct I wonder again like you said is it a tell or is it on purpose not on purpose
to spell it wrong but is the author trying to give us a hint of who it is uh by making these mistakes so the reason
why I say that it could be a sign signature or almost like a fingerprint for the author of the letter would be as
if this person always misspells these two words and that somebody would be aware of that like for me I
know that vacuum and convenient those two words I'm like I'm never going to spell them correctly the Double U for
years always screwed me up I think I've straight actually I take that back I think I've straightened out my vacuum
situation but for whatever reason convenient is the most inconvenient word for me because I always want to put the
ey in a weird spot I I will never get it right but anybody that I have corresponded with many times may know
that that I always have trouble with that word and then they could think of oh Nick the extra Krispy Colonel wrote
this Ransom letter because he jumbled up the eye and convenient yeah I don't know
why you'd put vacuum in a ransom note but it's your Ransom note so it's your part I I didn't write a ransom note I
just ask everybody to think of some letter some words that that they always have trouble with well I want to just
mention that we have commas in here so we have some kind of knowledge of writing and we also have the big one to
me is your right mhm a lot of people get that wrong there's different yours right yeah off
the top of my head I think all the yours are correct yeah I didn't look at that so
I'm guessing that they are and I know a lot of people were probably sitting there going everybody gets those right
nope nope that's like the one of the number one pet peeves I have on Facebook is when people get their yours wrong so
I worked in a small office years a ago a small foreign faction office yeah and I
remember there was a conversation that needed to be had MH if that's even correct grammar probably not but there
was a conversation that took place in a meeting where they addressed the office as a whole probably not to embarrass one
or two people in particular but that was the the exact conversation that they had
to pass down that needed to trickle down to some of the employees you're yours are always wrong in in your business
letters and your emails and this that and the other thing and it's a reflection of this company that you
don't know how to you don't know proper grammar right it's just like when it's there and there all those like weather
and weather those drive me nuts when people get them wrong well join us after the beer break when we discuss
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letter it states at this time we have your daughter in our possession She is safe and unharmed and if you want her to
C1 1997 you must follow our instructions to the letter so the writer tells us we
have your daughter in our possession most people would agree the shortest way to say something
is the best way to State it especially in a ransom letter a true kidnapper would have said we have your daughter
the words in our possession are simply understood and unnecessary and really just in those couple of lines there
seems to be several extra and unnecessary words next you will withdraw $118,000 from your account $100,000 will
be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the
bank the amount of $118,000 this all things considered is a relatively small amount amount of money
based off of the Ramsay's wealth or perceived wealth and John Ramsay's company is doing very well they just did
a billion in annual sales this was made public we discussed the news articles that came out regarding this John's net
worth in 1996 was in the millions and wouldn't you agree a nice round number would be more typical than
$118,000 so there should be a reason why the writer chose $118,000 and even John Ramsay agrees
that that number 118 is could be significant to the killer Yeah couple things here one if we believe the writer
on what they're stating I'm calling you we have two people that have your daughter so we at least have three
individuals so now you have to split that three ways so I I thought we think it was one person no but what I'm saying
is if we believe the oh the letter yeah where it says the two men watching over your daughter yeah three people so we a
minimum three that makes the amount even lower everybody's going to get roughly about
40 Grand mhm what's that going to do for you right it it's not worth the risk of of the amount of prison time
that you're signing yourself up for if you get caught right so not a large amount but that again goes back to the
idea that we're probably dealing with one individual and not two or again somebody that is falsifying a ransom
note to cover up a murder and one thing that's been pointed out many many times over the years in fact it was pointed
out very early on in the investigation and the Public's uh investigation into the
ramies let's say was that the amount may have been significant because John Ramsay's Christmas bonus or annual bonus
for 1996 was right around the same dollar amount yeah there was actually two things one his same dollar amount
roughly for the bonus and I wonder if this is also kind of a tip of the hat to while I'm asking for this
amount because I know you got it as a bonus mhm so therefore it will be easy for you to give to me I know it's
available possibly I also think it leads people to believe that whoever wrote this note if it's not covering up a
inside job that it's it's basically stating I know your bonus you know me but but I also think that it's kind of
smart I'm going to make it seem like we're this big organization well actually a small for infection but we're
a group of people group of individuals and if you just do what we say and give us this amount that we know
is pretty small to you this will be done and over with and I almost think that they picked this
amount because they knew it would be available and that possibly because of John's
wealth that they'll just go get the money and not contact the authorities right and the interesting thing here too
is we have Steve Thomas who points out that look that amount could be important because it could be indicative of his
annual bonus that he received that year like you pointed out if somebody else knows
that if somebody that that wants to stand to gain some money from this whole situation they know that that money
could be readily available rather quickly that this is this is money that this dude can actually get his hands on
we all see people drive fancy cars live in big fancy mansions that doesn't necessarily mean that they can get a
hold of any cash they might be up to debt in their up up to debt to their eyeballs M and have no real cash no real
liquid money or whatever to pay such a ransom stinky Hard Cash and then you have to think about the banking system
118,000 for somebody that's a multi-millionaire they can go in there and get that money and one
transaction right if you make the amount too high half a million or a mill million that's going to take some time
again the more time that this person has to process this the more likely they are
going to go well uh we have to contact authorities mhm and so again it becomes this thing
where it's like is this a smart amount because they're just going to try to get look I don't think the money is the main
purpose for any of this right but but staying fluid in the situation right we discuss it but this is some evidence
that points to that possibly paty Ramsey writes the note or John Ramsay or together they constructed this letter
yeah again yeah and I think if they wrote this note together that would make some sense also would make some sense on
why we have some Scratch Out marks right oh no don't do that I mean let's just get into the handwriting analysis John
they kind of ruled out as being the the author of it that doesn't mean he didn't
help her write it mhm but it seems like his handwriting samples don't match at all like on a scale to 1 to 10 he's a
zero but as far as paty Ramsey goes she's on the lowest scale of matching handwriting
samples she's on a very low spectrum of that on like a one to 10 she's a like a maybe a two but cannot be cleared cannot
be cleared cannot be rolled out and what's weird about her too is it seems like there's speculation that she
actually can write with both hands and be dextrous yeah so it's like um that's that's a word I wouldn't put into a
ransom note I can drink beer with both hands right very talented individual so here's what's weird about the amount to
me is this is just like everything else and I don't know if we mentioned this last week Captain but I know we've
talked about this in our personal conversations our personal talks about the John Benet Ramsey case is that even
the sources you go to to try to find the truth to try to sift through all the B [ __ ] B [ __ ] B [ __ ] and just get to the
truth dirty [ __ ] and the real hardcore evidence the problem with that all even
the sources even the good ones even people that you and I agree that we respect they all seem to have an aor
grind they and so you don't know if you're getting the 100% honest to God's truth so the public perception for a
long time was that well it had to be John Ramsey or pany Ramsey that wrote the letter that wrote The Ransom letter
because they would be the only ones that would come up with this random amount of
$118,000 they would be aware of that because that amount was on their brains because of the bonus that he had
recently received then you have the others the Ramsey supporters that will say no you would have anybody there
could be several people at his company that would be aware of that amount there could be people at his bank that would
be aware of that amount and the ramies were not particularly neat Freaks and they've had
a lot of guests they they always are having guests over over to their home there are people that could have worked
at their home or could have been there as a guest and could have seen this information lying about somewhere in the
ramsy home and came up with that amount so well I also question there's a strong
argument for either in my opinion yeah and I also question how braggadocious um paty Ramsey was and is
it possible that she was telling people at the Christmas party oh well drink up you know cuz John got a big bonus or
whatever I I think that's a possib as well and there was a lot of people in and out of that house like you said and
and all it would take would be somebody telling somebody that told somebody that
told somebody but this also amount goes to and I don't want to overlook this too
much uh Mr Merrick I believe his name is there was a guy that was fired Jeff Merrick yeah a guy that eventually you
know John Ramy said hey this is somebody that we should look into he's making threats and basically his pay was the
argument that they had was you know around this dollar amount so he was looked into because of these threats and
because John could also prove that this dollar amount was pretty much what they were arguing over so he was looked into
and his wife was looked into now on the high end of the spectrum I think we talked about him before maramman Mr
maramman mhm which he was I think tested see I think paty Ramsey wrote the note four times I think she was tested four
times again the more and more samples that she gives you now you're not comparing note to note you're comparing
note to four notes M and that's what led us to the bottom of the barrel that she
possibly wrote it this guy maramman he was he actually wrote the note I believe seven times and they
actually put him on the higher Spectrum you know on a scale 1 to 10 he's maybe eight or nine he hit more
markers yeah if if they're looking for 19 different markers to indicate this is the author of The Letter he's hitting
more of those markers than py Ramsey Yeah by 10 times and eventually when they came back and wanted him to write
another sample he said look I have rode enough to fill the Library of Congress if you want me to write anything more
come back with handcuffs this note doesn't make a lot of sense at all and this amount doesn't
make a lot of sense but I know that John Douglas and I I believe another FBI agent profilers have looked at this
amount and looked at this note and thought this kind of points to a male in their late teens maybe early 20s because
again because amount would be significant to them yeah and I also to a younger person but I also think um that
makes a lot of sense and these guys are experts I mean maybe not as much as I am
but they are experts but I also then question is there somebody else that this is a lot of um this is a bigger
amount too where 118,000 might not seem like enough of a reason to kidnap somebody but again I
don't think that's the reason I think this is just kind of a icing on the cake and again why not pick a small amount
just to get it done and over with well even $118,000 that's a whole lot of Rolling
Papers yeah so here's the thing I do want to point out Steve Thomas his book is fantastic regardless if you agree
with his opinions and theories on the case I highly recommend everybody pick that book up and check it out there's a
lot of information in there does he have an Axor grind everybody that we will name I can't speak for the captain but
my belief is everyone that we name in this seems to have an aor grind but I think it's ego he States well and I but
I believe with Steve Thomas he he firmly believes he's right he has some things that to him point out to him that he is
right and he's just he's just trying to push this out to the public and say look
this is what I believe happened and why so I'm fine with with hearing his opinion one thing he States about this
$118,000 amount this is one thing that is I've not seen it reported anywhere else so I want to make sure I bring it
up here before we move on he states that there was some notes that he found in John Ramsay's personal I don't know if
it was a journal or personal notes that John Ramsey made about his personal finances and the number
118,000 was significant as it was referenced Within in those notes now I don't know if that was liabilities or
liquid or what but it was it was significant according to Steve Thomas in those notes and so he's pointing out
forget about the bonus because a lot of people could have known about that right
this could be a number that's significant to John because of his personal financial notes that that we
found in his office that's interesting but then we also have a few other interesting takes on this one thing
that's been pointed out many many times and I just have such a big issue with this whole thing look this case
this investigation is salacious enough without coming up with Halloween stories to add on top of it but there's always
been the the speculation out there throughout the years that oh 118 is significant because it references psalm
118 from the Bible and the family bible inside the Ramsey home was turned to Psalm 118 which discusses child
sacrifice and the ramies are Satanist right sorry that just doesn't make any damn sense it doesn't add up number one
number two well and hold on if you're going to sacrifice one of your kids I mean don't you pick the ugly
one I I don't know the I don't know the first thing about child sacrifice or the
or sacrificing my own child but what I will point out is that law enforcement stated first of all the family Bible was
not turned to Psalm 118 that never happened they never found that to be the case it wasn't marked it wasn't
bookmarked Psalm 118 doesn't seem to hold any significance to this case for the ramies on top of that read the Bible
Psalm 118 doesn't discuss child sacrifice so it's just it's just a theory that's all kinds of wrong it's
interesting it would make for a good movie you know if you're putting together a good horror flick that would
be something of interest but uh it doesn't seem to mean anything now I like what John Douglas States about the
amount of $118,000 he states that you know that if you were to convert that money to
another currency Douglas points out that at the time in 1996 $118,000 roughly translates to a million
pesos see so either pointing out again as a little wink wink hint situation that this could be a foreign entity or a
foreign person or he also States you know it could be somebody that was younger and
looking to flee the area after receiving the money and and hide out in Mexico yeah so it's interesting that there are
several different reasons for the possibility of this this odd amount and again John Ramsey himself agrees that
the the number is probably significant to the killer now the phrase I I actually I should say this Captain just
before moving on also like other things with this case it could have no significance at all it could just be one
of those weird things that's the amount that some crazy sicko on the spot came up with and that's all you know and
that's all it means yeah it's totally a coincidence then we have the phrase your
account in the letter this is interesting the author could have just said the bank you know you're get the
money from the bank right and not your account also this is implying that the kidnapper knows that there's that dollar
amount at least in John Ramsay's account then if paty Ramsey was the author then
we can see how in targeting the note toward her husband she would use the phrase your
account versus my account right make you know make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank most
kidnappers are not going to remind you to bring an adequate size case to hold the money plus this has got to be a
rather uncommon word I can think of only a handful of times other than the ramsy
case where I have even heard the word atache used or seen it on a piece of paper yeah I again this to me points I
mean we we got to look at intelligence level and I would say that this individual writing the note whether it's
paty or somebody else we know paty has a higher education if it's not py it's somebody
else with a higher education because I just don't think that they would even try to use that word then the suggestion
that you be well rested I'm surprised they didn't didn't write eat oatmeal for breakfast you're going to need your
strength it the kidnapper frankly doesn't give a [ __ ] if you're well rested right or not you know
it doesn't care about your feelings or about your your health your physical well-being they want their money but
again this could be immaturity this could be somebody quoting dumb [ __ ] from a movie window dring this could be yeah
this could be py not understanding how to be uh as aggressive as maybe she should or this could be somebody that's
actually close to the ramsy family that this is like a you're writing too much you're giving too much away and and I
think a lot of people believe that little tells like this point to that it's somebody that knows the family the
word atache was written with an accent placed over the letter e m most people in in the US do not use this special
character it may have been used because the writer wanted the authorities to believe John B was kidnapped by a
foreign faction right the writer may have used it because he or she is educated the other thing we have to make
take into consideration is that John benet's name was written with an accent py Ramsey was
accustomed to using the accent when writing her daughter's name yeah she well she wanted her daughter's name to
sound French right so you will withdraw $118,000 from your account $ 100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining
$118,000 in $20 bills make sure that you bring an adequate size attache to the bank when you get home you will put the
money in a brown paper bag I will call you between 8: and 10: a.m. tomorrow to instruct you on delivery the delivery
will be exhausting so I advise you to be rested if we monitor you getting the money early we might call you early to
arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter note the author wrote delivery
of your daughter if you see this on if you go and look up the actual paper right yeah the author wrote delivery of
your daughter crossed out delivery and wrote pick up of your daughter so it reads mistakes and all
we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier delivery pickup of your
daughter the writer started to say that upon receiving the money he or they would deliver John Benet to the parents
then realizing that a kidnapper would not deliver the hostage right but would tell the family where she could be found
therefore he changed it to pickup it's doubtful that a a well thought out kidnapper would make this mistake it's a
strong indication that the the writer was not an experienced criminal yeah which makes this case even more baffling
because the note makes lot more sense if if it's paty writing the note and just really bad at writing a ransom note to
cover it up and this is one of the points where she goes um and hence right mm she was kind of commonly known to use
that phrase and I believe even Burke uses that phrase when he when he's uh questioned by
authorities but again is this immaturity is this somebody that's just trying to throw people off the scent but also we
might do this earlier instead of the call I wonder if you're viewing paty as the author is this uh setting up for
them to change the plans on the police if they have to but I also think that depending on when you wrote this note
and in in what manner you did this would be kind of a weird thing to kind of come
up with off the top of your head yeah let's there's a lot to really dive into in this couple of sentences I believe so
first the word monitor implies a continual surveillance this is further emphasized when the writer states you
and your family are under con constant scrutiny the kidnapper would have us believe they are continually watching
the Ramsay family which is very highly unlikely one but two goes back to that line of if we you know if we see you
getting the money earlier we're going to we'll make earlier arrangements to return your daughter right it kind of
it's kind of underlining that yeah we are watching you and we will know when you go to get the
money the word hence as you pointed out is incredibly interesting it's not a common word the word hence is a formal
way of saying therefore the writer starts out the ransom note misspelling words giving the appearance that they
are uneducated however his or their educational level begins to show when they use words such as
hence we see the same writing style in the Ramsay's Christmas message on December 14th
1997 the First United Methodist Church in Boulder Colorado held a memorial service for John Benet in the program
there was a message a Christmas message from the Ramsey family this message was also posted on the Ramsay family's
website in the message we find the statement had there been no birth of Christ there would be no hope of eternal
life and hence no hope of ever being with our loved ones again yeah it's suspicious but if there's also a an
hence in their Christmas letter maybe it's again somebody that got that Christmas letter well this is the year
after she was killed no but didn't you say that there was and the there was a in the original Christmas letter that
people would have got in 1996 is there no inhance in that one I would have to go back and review that I
don't believe that there is a and hence but there this this fact is from their December 14th
1997 message this is a memorial to John Manet right so that's very suspicious towards paty Ramsey but if again like I
said Burke a couple times says and hence and his I guess you can call it interrogation tapes questioning tapes
is it just somebody that's close to the family and knows that and hence is something that paty Ramsey uses so
therefore I use it in my letter not so much suspicious towards pany ramsy but more of a clue that hey I know you we're
close you you want to hear one sad thing you you mentioned their Christmas letter
and I I forgot about this this there's so many things involved in this case so many details
involved in this case and regarding their Christmas letter that we we discussed last week that they sent out
to their friends and family yeah they sent it out so late in December I believe I've heard the
statement that everyone but just for the sake of being fair and not having that in my notes
specifically I will state that that that statement was most most of the people receiving most of the recipients of that
letter received it on December 26th the same day that they had to tell friends and family that John Benet was
killed right so just What a Sad Sad thing for friends and family you get this happy cheery message about the
Ramsey family and then find out that same day the little girl that you read about in their Christmas message has
been killed yeah also in these statements in this letter we have an unnecessary word over any deviation of
my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter you will also be denied her remains for
proper burial the two gentlemen watching over your daughter unnecessary words are
words that can be taken out of a sentence taken out of this letter completely in the sentence still makes
sense the writer could have stated the two gentlemen watching your daughter extra words give us extra information
what is the difference between watching over someone and watching someone according to statement analysis.com they
say the best example is in reference to God if someone were to say that God is watching over me then you have God
keeping his distance he sees the person he or she I don't want to get into that argument he or she sees the person but
also sees the entire world at the same time God can see the person because they are
a part of the world while God is watching over that person they are also watching over others the word over means
god is spreading his watchful eye upon the earth now if someone were to write or to say God Is Watching You it becomes
more personal it's a focused attention right another example would be if a friend asks you to watch over over his
house while he was out of town in this case he probably wants you to stop by every once in a while and make sure
everything is okay maybe you'll pick up the mail water the plants whatever however if he ask you to
watch his house he probably wants you to house it to stay there right he wants you to be there where you can keep a
close eye on things so on December 26 I think something else that we should point out is this would have been a
Thursday so yes people are off work normally on Christmas but there's a lot of people that go back to work on that
Thursday so if it's not written by paty ramsy I believe it would have to be written by somebody that knew that they
had time to do this that day possibly somebody that doesn't have a job or or is off work which it could be a lot of
people but I think that's important to point out well Santa Claus just spent the whole time working just before that
so I'm sure he is off and resting on that day statement analysis goes on while we're talking about words that are
unnecessary they go on to add in a kidnapping the kidnappers should be watching the abductee meaning the word
watching is also unnecessary it would be understood they will want to keep a close eye on
her they want to make sure she does not Escape or alert someone that she needs help they will want to make sure she
doesn't harm herself if her being alive is dependent upon them receiving the ransom when the writer of The Ransom
note said they were watching over John Benet the writer was telling us they were not keeping a close eye on her
there are only two reasons why you you would not closely watch your hostage one if you knew for certain she was all
right and could not Escape or two if you knew she was dead yeah since a dead body
isn't going anywhere it is something you watch over not keep a close eye on right
so let's be clear about this if it's paty Ramsay or somebody in the Ramsay household then we know that John Man is
dead and so of this stuff points to that right mhm my issue has always been the person if it's an intruder they
had time so why wouldn't you write the note beforehand if the goal was to take John
B out of the house the whole kidnapping could just be a ruse they maybe they didn't even want money they
just are going to use this as a ruse to give them more time right watching over and all that stuff might not make any
sense I to me it's less likely that the Intruder takes her to the basement kills her on purpose or on
accident and then decides to write a note my gut feeling says if it's an intruder the note was written
before the death of John Ben mhm and just immaturity not a seasoned criminal not a
you know but I I also think a lot of the stuff is leading to somebody with a decent education decent ability to write
I believe the person is giving too many Clues on that they're close to the family and again I don't know if the the
dollar amount matters at all mhm yeah I want to stay on this for a little bit because I personally do not believe that
the what statement analysis.com is stating here in its simplest form is that based
on the language used in the letter it appears that the writer already knew that John Benet was dead when writing
the ransom note right I don't really firmly agree with that and I think that when they say that they are trying to
indicate that that means that it has to be pany and John or or pany by herself writing this letter already knowing that
the daughter is dead right I I don't believe that so much but staying staying on this idea of additional words or
unnecessary words I go back to the we are a small foreign faction we are a group of individuals the men watching
over your daughter this is a group The watching over could actually apply the watching over your daughter
could make sense as we can't assume we know everything that the kidnapper has planned regardless
of the long letter left on the spiral staircase this watching over could be intended to imply simply the men took
your daughter I Am The Mastermind of this operation and I'm leaving the ransom note after the fact they are
elsewhere watching over your daughter right the two men watching over your daughter do not particularly like you
when we look at a copy of the ransom letter we find the writer originally wrote do particularly like you the word
not was written above the space between the words do in particularly a a line was then drawn indicating that the word
not should be inserted between these words all right then we have any deviation of my instructions will result
in the immediate execution of your daughter you will also be denied her remains for proper burial the two
gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them speaking to
anyone about your situation such as police FBI Etc will result in your daughter being beheaded saying that John
Benet will be beheaded is very unusual statement analysis says in the United States we generally do not talk about
beheading people this was put in the note in their opinion to make it look like a foreign faction was being behind
this kidnapping right now for me Captain this is the line that I have always question the most let's say John Benet
died in some kind of accident and then the parents covered it up which is a very popular Theory so they cover it up
and then write this Ransom letter they would still be very upset about the death of their small child they would
still be grieving parents in a way I can't I have a very difficult time believing that parents for any reason
would ref ref the beheading of Their Own Child right that it's not necessary to throw that in that note to cover up an
accidental death or something else yeah the small foreign faction and the beheading makes me think and the season
right is the season for one of the best Christmas movies of all time and if you don't think it's a Christmas movie
you're just wrong Die Hard it makes me think that somebody watched die hard too much and went oh yeah foreign faction uh
you know beheading this is the terms that they would use right if we catch you talking to a stray dog she dies if
you alert Bank Authorities she dies if the money is in any way marked or tampered with she dies you will be
scanned for electronic devices and if any are found she dies four times the writer uses the phrase she dies if John
B was still alive the writer should have been speaking in the future tense she will will die this is a strong
indication that the the writer again knows that John Benet was dead at the time this is again that same website
kind of pointing out to that we could have a cover up here by the parents yeah again the cover up makes more sense than
but as far as the she dies okay well then she they would say well she will die this could be somebody going well
that's this would sound more like a terrorist would talk right she dies and then after this she dies this this
is this would be the terrorist or the threat level being turned up Crank It Up to 11 right scare the hell out of the
out of the parents now I really like this portion that I found here it states there are three times when the writer
used an exclamation point exclamation points as we all know are used to add emphasis to the statement
listen carefully this has an exclamation point in talking about killing John Benet the
writer does not use any exclamation points four times the writer wrote she dies we would expect this to be a point
of emphasis in the letter but did not use them when talking about killing John Benet this too May indicate that John
Benet was already dead and the author knew this at this time there are in you you've been kind of hinting at this all
day long here there are several movie references or close to quotes found within this Ransom letter in the movie
Dirty Harry inspector Harry Callahan Clint Eastwood I love Clint Eastwood is looking for Scorpio a man who kidnapped
a little girl when talking to Scorpio on the phone several time Scorpio tells inspector Callahan that if he does not
follow his orders the girl dies as opposed to saying the girl will die in the movie the girl was already dead in
the ransom note John Benet was already dead another very interesting thing is the letter only names John ramay by name
no one else first it's Mr ramsy and then simply John yeah the note is addressed to Mr Ramsay however
towards the end of the letter Mr Ramsay becomes John well don't we have a practice note at Point yes where it's uh
it's addressed to both of them so in the believed or what is called the uh rough
draft or the first draft often referred to as the practice note practice letter they find in the same notepad it's
believed that that this Ransom letter came from the same notepad that they later found at the top of a page
somebody wrote Mr and Mrs I it looks like I because what the the authorities state is that that is the downstroke for
a capital r that the intention was for it to be Mr and Mrs Ramsay and then before even completing the capital r the
author changed their mind and then decided to address the letter simply to Mr Ramsay just to John right which look
this is a pad that the this stuff drives me nuts cuz it's like the the housekeeper could have said I'm
going to write a note real quick to Mr and Mrs ramsy or anybody else that worked at the house could have sat down
so yes they believe it's possibly a practice note but there's also other explanations
or other things that you can speculate that it's that there was no practice note we don't have anybody to claim
that that that little letter right there you know the Mr and Mrs eye right I think if somebody were to claim that it
would be easy more easy to dismiss but because we don't have that it may appear to most that a possible practice letter
nobody's saying definitively that it was right but there is evidence to certainly
point that it could be you and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities don't try to
grow a brain John you are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult don't
underestimate us John use that good Southern common sense of yours it is up to you now John again this is pointing I
think to somebody that's closer to the family than this small foreign faction but also it simply can put Point towards
py Ramsey well yeah I mean this is an indicator that the the author of The Letter has some general knowledge of
John it's it's same as the the dollar amount right it's same as knowing that he would be able to pay this amount use
that good Southern sense of yours that good Southern common sense of yours knowing that he's from Atlanta right and
then addressing him as John I tell you what though for all the reasons that many people point out that the letter
itself shows no level of criminal sophistication I want to point to one sentence that I believe shows a good
deal of understanding and criminal sophistication regarding getting the ransom and that is don't try to grow a
brain John and we know that that's referenced probably from a movie from from speed where he says uh don't grow a
brain I'm on top of you or say something like that and that that's that's an individual that's looking to collect a
ransom in the movie but this line right here Captain you are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing
will be difficult that to me shows some criminal sophistication right there that
to me is the person who's demanding The Ransom to say you know what on top of that don't deviate from these things
because there's a lot of people that say well you don't pay a ransom because you
know right away that the killer the abductor will not kill the abducted person the
abductee because if they do kill then the likelihood of getting the ransom goes down significantly they've not
they've not upheld their end of the bargain I like this line because they're saying don't deviate from us because
guess what we don't care we will kill your daughter and then we will take somebody else's kid and we'll give them
a ransom and somebody will pay us eventually so don't try to outsmart us here just be this is a very short way of
saying don't try to outsmart us here just do the right thing and pay us because we'll do this again we're not
we're not worried about giving you your daughter back we're not worried about losing out on the ransom because we
because you screw up and we have to kill her well so you have one line that we believe is coming from Dirty Harry but
you say that there's a kidnapping there so that's interesting and then the fact that there's another line that we go oh
that might be from speed and there's a ransom there I wonder if we're missing other lines from movies well in Dirty
Harry there's the line if we catch you talking to a stray dog she dies um well sorry that's from the The Ransom
letter but it sounds like from Dirty hary if we if you talk to anyone even if it's a peines on a lamp post peeing on a
lamp post the girl dies that's from Dirty har Harry are we missing some other references to movies and and to me
then that's a again I I find it hard to think that John and paty they their daughter is it's an accidental death
right and they're trying to cover up for their son this is their child it doesn't
have to be cover up for their son though there's you know anybody could be guil guilty of the accidental death but right
right you're right but what I'm saying is this is a beloved daughter this is I I love somebody Point somebody said uh
well even if they didn't care about their daughter they would have they would have been upset about their
investment who who makes those claims towards parents there there is no evidence that John and Pat paty were
horrible Satan worshippers and didn't give a [ __ ] about their little daughter so if there was there was an accidental
death whoever is responsible at the end of the day we have a dead six-year-old daughter so I think for them to sit
around and come up with this letter to me it's cutesy oh well throw in that line about what you know what did Dirty
Harry say oh yeah say something like that what was that movie what was that line in speed yeah say something like
that it's too cutesy mhm their six-year-old daughter died and it and and in this case for whatever reason
it's like oh well they got a little bit of money that doesn't make them monsters
she spent a lot of time with her daughter no matter what you think that is you know and I I'm also so sick and
tired of people going well they they set her up and they put her in a position where there's all these pedophiles and
and so really even if they didn't kill her if they're not covering up an accidental death that they really
brought this upon their daughter oh give me a break your kids ain't safe anywhere I I have friends that have been
molested by teachers counselors Boy Scout leaders bus drivers Soccer Coaches priests pedophiles are
everywhere so it's just the the claims that we can make when there's no evidence beforehand or afterwards of
them being horrible malicious people it's just it doesn't make a lot of sense to me like I said it's too cutesy oh
let's try to throw in some movie quotes well there's no evidence of them being horrible malicious people beforehand
either so this to me is the most interesting portion of the letter and actually it's what is not in the letter
py is not named John Benet is not named but is referenced as your daughter or she right this is interesting
because what if it's possible that the person that wrote the letter did not know the little girl's name
or at the very least did not know how to spell John Benet that's not a common name I can't think of anybody else that
that shares that name right is it possible that they avoided that name because they didn't know how to spell it
also could the Intruder have only known John Ramsay's name yeah it's a difficult
one because you think you know with the Intruder Theory a lot of people go this this person must have been obsessed with
this little girl if you're obsessed with her would you know how to spell her name
and also if you wrote the note beforehand and then brought it with you or or wrote a note beforehand and
brought that with you and then copied it down and you were obsessed with her why
why wouldn't you put her name but again maybe there's all these little tells that if it's an intruder that they know
the family well right but maybe that was their their disagree with that I think that it
the only indicators that we have is that the Intruder may know JN well again pointing out no py
no John Benet all the references that that would indicate that they know of the family and maybe you're just using
family in a loose term there right but it's all towards John Mr Ramsay John we respect your business uh we know that
you're wealthy $118,000 use that good Southern sense of yours right all John and there are
theories out there Intruder theories that persons believe that the Intruder yeah did they do some horrible
things to John Ben yeah they killed her but the the the intent was to was to harm John ramsy right be it on an
emotional level or whatever not on a physical level but that that was the motivating factor for the death for the
murder or the Abduction of this little girl was to hurt and possibly destroy John Ramsey that the the killer or the
abductor had was seeking revenge against against him or was or sought to destroy
this man yeah it makes sense to just focus it on John if you're if the writer is py cuz what would make you think that
you should focus on yourself right so that's where I think people go oh this had to be Psy's doing and here's the
thing too and I'm glad you point that out because that's something that I think most people kind of skip over when
they look at this case you hear so many people go oh it was the parents or it had to be the parents you can run
different scenarios in your head where it doesn't have to be the parents it could be a parent right it could have
been one or the other it doesn't have to be a united front of of the two right two killed covered up and then it's the
two of them against the world going forward right because what's interesting in this case is you have a lot of people
that think paty was up all night long and that her husband he took a sleeping aid so he passed out and what if all
this stuff happened and now she is responsible or she feels that she's responsible and she doesn't think that
JN will understand so that she has to cover this all up on her own it's possible but I also think when I think
about the Intruder theory is that maybe this person had a affection for py as well and that that's why they didn't put
her in the letter they didn't name her you know what I mean like if I'm going to talk trash to somebody I'll talk a
little I'll talk a little stick to John but I wouldn't do that to paty so I'm not going to do that in the letter when
you say that this individual would have it out for John right MH the evidence against that is if you have more hatred
towards somebody you're not going to be so polite you're going to you're going to spew a lot more Venom and that
doesn't happen and you know you know don't think you're the only fat cat around don't what like so you're you're
kind of giving them a compliment just in that statement you would think a lot more of like John 's a piece of [ __ ] and
you're going to pay us and you know you're a horrible person and you're and your business sucks you know what I mean
like but they're too complimentary to him so I I I doubt the hatred then we have the weird
ending of the letter the victory sbtc yeah sbtc it appears there's no period after the letter c just after the
other three letters people have for so many years have wondered what could sbtc mean that has always been one of the
most popular questions in this case one of the most popular theories is that it stands for Subic Bay Training Center
right Subic Bay is a bay on the west coast of the island of Luzon in the Philippines about 100 kilm Northwest of
Milana Bay an extension of the South China Sea its Shores were formerly the site of a major United States Navy
facility named US Naval Base Subic Bay which is now the location of an Industrial and Commercial area known as
the Subic Bay Freeport Zone under the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority we point this out because many people have
suggested that John Ramsay who was stationed at Subic Bay may have come up with this
sbtc because it means Subic Bay Training Center however in the description that we just gave you it clearly tells you
that there is no entity that exist with that name right Subic Bay Training Center that's not what that place was
called and as far as I could find there is no training facility station there nobody would have
any reason to refer to the United States Navy facility named US Naval Base Subic
Bay as Subic Bay Training Center another possibility Captain is the sbtc could mean saved by the cross which could mean
a number of different things statement analysis says this is because of the Ramsay's professed faith in God and
because the word Victory precedes the initials sbtc as all Christians know it is
through Christ's sacrifice on the cross that we have victory over death the Ramsay were religious and attended
church as we mentioned in the timeline paty beat cancer too and it has also been suggested that saved by the cross
is a reference to to paty's victory over cancer sbtc could could have meaning to
the perpetrator or to the perpetrator's relationship to the Ramsay or John Benet
or what is probably the most likely situation is that it means nothing at all that it has no real relevance to the
case at all mhm I believe paty at one point when asked what sbtc could mean she saidon of a [ __ ] Tom Carter
right which was someone the family knew but that of course just seems like like Kookie talk I mean it's just yeah she
had no filter really right right well I you know what I do like that about her there is a certain charm John has too
much filter right and then paty has no filter yeah it's uh son of a [ __ ] Tom Carter well there is a guy that they
they look into and one of the new documentaries where he would sign his name he had like
aliases uh and the T would stand for truth so it was his Alias but he would put truth in there but again they they
once you do more research you go well this guy was connected to Colorado but he couldn't have been there at the time
so I think everybody's grabbing at straws for this one I question the letters themselves though
sbtc that's what we're assuming it is because again I think one of the things that really points to the fact that paty
didn't write this note because if she's calling 911 this would have been not much after she already wrote the note
right it could have been minutes could have been hours right and they ask her who wrote the note who's it from and you
almost hear you have have you almost hear the thinking the wheels turning and she has to go to the back and say
sbtc then she reads Up victory mhm if she wrote this note she would yeah your your knee-jerk reaction would
be to say Victory sbtc or just simply sbtc yeah without a pause who wrote the note
sbtc okay well more likely that she wrote the note but when she has to search through it because she claims she
didn't even read the whole note mhm she got to the point where you have my daughter oh [ __ ] I got to go check on my
daughter oh [ __ ] John yeah come help me oh we you know John maybe reads the note
maybe doesn't maybe gets to the same part we got to call the police and then at some point you're going oh [ __ ] now
we called the police but they're telling us not to call the police but again she
reads up and she says sbtc Victory mhm if she wrote the note like you said start with Victory sbtc or
say sbtc quicker I question the letters and this is what I mean by this paty Ramsay is the one that determined
this is sbtc this is pretty sloppy handwriting I don't know if that t is a t or if it was
supposed to be possibly a j a j because if you look at every other T son of a [ __ ] John Carter some of a
[ __ ] if you look at every other te the bottom swish of the tea goes out to the
right and when you look at this T it almost looks like there's a DOT um well it is a felt tip pen okay so
I I do want to throw this in there according to Steve Thomas they had verification from the Secret Service
United States Secret Service M that one of the felt tip pens in the little you know everybody's got their little pen
and pencil holder that contains multiple pens and pencils that that pen and pencil holder
contained a felt tip pen that authored the letter according to Steve Thomas and according to what he States is proof
from the Secret Service that they were able to determine that the the dye or the ink I guess would be better to say
was was a perfect match for one particular pen in that that holder I point that out felt tip pen because if
you anybody that's used them often knows if you just kind of hesitate to pick up
your pen it will leave what what looks to be a DOT at the bottom of a letter or at the at the end of a stroke that you
just finished yeah which I get but again I think this is more deliberate and the
reason why is cuz look at every U when they y u right at the bottom of the Y what happens with their pin
naturally goes to the right look at 100% when they make the percent sign where does the pin go naturally to the
right do you see that what was the last one you just stated I'm I'm reviewing the use so if you look at the U's the
bottom of the Y always starts curving to the right even on the on the D's the bottom of the D's oh if you look at the
word you when you say you I thought you meant the letter U um yeah you're right with the the Y at the start of the word
u and at the end of the word Victory I can see right here on page three yeah it it it goes to the right a little bit
Yeah and then if you look at 100% at the bottom of the percent sign it goes to the to the right and that
happens over over and over almost every y goes down and to the right uh even the
fs and you're right on the J it goes to the left well on the T it goes to the left making it a possible J yes just but
only on the sbtc so I think it's possible that the person started hurrying through this a
little bit more and that is a SB J C right could be yeah and could so son of a [ __ ] Jesus Christ is that what it
is no no it could mean anything again it could mean nothing at all it could be here
look the truth of the matter at the end of the day is the ransom note is a farce how however you want to spin it
whoever you believe to be involved it's a fake meaning whoever wrote it never intended to receive any Ransom I believe
that 100% okay so what you're saying is if it's written by somebody in the family they're covering up they're Mak
they're they're making it look like it's something else and they're covering up an accident or they're covering up a
murder yeah okay if it's an intruder it could just be a false it could be a farce from the beginning and they're
still planning on taking her and that just doesn't work out and then they left the scene and move about their business
I think it very likely that given what we we know of the wine seller and what we suspect of the body of John Benet
that if this person or this group had any intention of taking this little girl and removing her from the home that this
letter was constructed to buy them time meaning when the the thing with the Intruder I'm
kind of with you and I'm not saying that I believe it to be an intruder but if it
were if I were to say yes I believe this was an intruder that's responsible for the murder of John
Benet I believe that the the Intruder Theory only works if the letter was written was constructed before the
attempted abduction of this girl right and that there was no really true intention to ever return her there was
no true intention to collect on that Ransom that this would have been more likely a sexually motivated crime and
the letter was constructed to buy this sicko some additional time right and that could be for either any number of
purposes or just simply for the purpose of getting away of fleeing the area or distancing themselves from the crime
itself don't contact police if I if I can do anything to stall law enforcement from the if I can do anything to stall
the experts from getting involved then I'm going to do that because we we all know if you don't solve this thing in
the first 48 you don't have a suspect in the first 48 first 72 time is the killer
time makes it more difficult to solve these cases and this is a particularly complicated
one and so I believe that if it were even an intruder the idea would be to distance themselves from from the
investigation to slow the start and progression of that investigation I point to that for
several reasons because even if somebody look we we know that she's killed we know that she's killed
somewhere in that home and then the body is left somewhere in that home even if the kill the person killed her had
intended to take her for the purpose of a ransom you would still remove the body
because you could still collect on that Ransom even though she's dead the parents don't know that she's dead right
and even and even if they were even the sentence of denied a proper burial indicates that the author of The Letter
understands that even the return of a dead body has some value so I don't really believe that there was ever in
any intention of collecting on a ransom and we went through the timeline I will contact you between 8 and 10: a.m.
tomorrow to give you instructions there was no contact nobody ever reached out for any reason at all I I think it is
also very important to keep in mind I I think one of the smartest things that that Steve Thomas added to this case is
where he states that 8: to 10: a.m. is so confusing because we don't know what the author means by 8: to 10: a.m.
because this crime we we're talking this all went down in the middle of the night
if if the abductor attempted the abduction after midnight well then 8: a.m. to 10: a.m.
tomorrow could mean the next day so I I think it's all it it's all very make a lot of sense
yeah and again I think um I believe that the person if it was an intruder they they wrote it
beforehand and either copied their own note and try to make a couple corrections to it or whatever yeah and
and that's why we have those little scribble marks but I think they they wrote it beforehand there's too many
cutesy like little references and little things about like Hollywood not even so much even if you
say they're not quoting any movie it just sounds like stuff that would come from a movie they could just be quoting
things or or not specifically quoting movies but just again grabbing window dressing that that that comes to mind
right when they think of oh what would a what would a kidnapper who wants a ransom right right what what do I think
a ransom letter should look like and that's why I think it it's what what I believe and I'll go forward moving
forward with this is that I believe the ransom note is the ransom letter is a complete farce and that either points to
it points to motive for me either it's a cover up an inside job that had to be covered up or it was in fact an intruder
and the whole purpose of the ransom letter was constructed in advance and it was constructed to slow the
investigation to to delay the start of the investigation maybe the parents don't call 911 right away because
they're scared and they believe the letter they believe they're going to get their daughter back that doesn't have to
have any indicator whether the author knew in advance that they were going to take the girl or or kill the girl inside
it has no nothing to do with that at all it just points everything in this letter
points to me that nobody had any intention of collecting okay so crispy colel if if you had to bet right right
now if if if you had to wager your whole life savings mhm $118,000 8,00 000 and you had to wager that against a
small foreign faction is this coming from inside the Ramsay family or is this coming from outside the Ramsey family
okay I would walk up to the window to the the bedding window and I would place $59,000 that the author of the letter
was an intruder M and then I would place my I would wager my remaining $59,000 that one of the Rams or both the
ramies wrote the letter how you like that wager right there yeah that's a horrible answer I'm
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Brief Summary

The episode analyzes the John Benet Ramsey ransom note, discussing its content, authorship, and implications for the case.

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John Ben Ramsey Case. The chilling details of the ransom note reveal a complex psychological game.
The Ransom Note's Misspellings. Speculation arises about the intentional misspellings in the ransom note, suggesting a deeper meaning.
The Significance of $118,000. The ransom amount of $118,000 raises questions about its significance related to John Ramsey's finances.
The Significance of Psalm 118. Speculation arises about Psalm 118's connection to the Ramsey case, but it lacks evidence.

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This ransom letter is 2 and 1/2 pages long.

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