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her brother [Music] [Applause] [Music] JonBenet Ramsey God they still have not interviewed the
parents [Music] didn't do it anybody [Music] my life has been held from that type of
work and I want nothing more than find out who was responsible for this [Music] it's been over 20 years since JonBenet
Ramsey was murdered inside her home and still to this day we are looking for the
killer we are looking for who did this now the experts who have looked at this case over the years there are some that
point toward the Intruder Theory as it has become known proponents of the Intruder Theory include A and E who did
their documentary on the JonBenet case as well as famous retired FBI agent John Douglas and retired law enforcement
officer Lou Smith the John Douglas believes that there was an intruder and that the motive for the killing was
something against John Ramsey somebody had an ax to grind against John Ramsay maybe this was Revenge had it out for
John and Patsy we don't know but that's part of his theory Lou Smith on the other hand believes in the Intruder
Theory as well with a slight variation he believes that we are looking for somebody that was
sexually motivated that this was a pedophile that broke into the home with the sole purpose of sexually assaulting
this young girl attempting to kidnap her but unsuccessfully now we've put together a list of potential suspects in
this case so let's get into some of these suspects and some of the interesting weirdos in this case and I'd
like to start off with a man named JT Koufax AKA James Michael Thompson he was 34 years old back in 1997 when he was
arrested in June this for deciding to set fire to the Ramses unoccupied home on 15th Street
he did this as he says not because he had anything against the Ramses but because he wanted to get back at the
authorities he attempted to set fire to the home by lighting newspapers and pages from Anne Rice's famous book
Interview with a Vampire he likes these things on fire and then he's stuffing them through the mail slot at the
Ramsay's home his plan failed due to the general construction of the home the floor from my understanding is marble
and so the burning Pages once stuffed through the slot land on the marble floor and lay there until burning out
this did however manage to leave a good amount of soot on the walls and the ceiling okay so if JT Colfax AKA James
Michael Thompson didn't do this because he had it out for the Ramses well what was his beef with
the authorities Colfax was employed as a cadaver transporter by a Denver company
this occupation in kofax's actions will lead to two other arrests one for when he had a call to go to the
Boulder County Morgue for a pickup while he was waiting around he noticed the log
book and the entry with jonbenet's name on it he tore the sheet out of the log book and took some additional Pages as
well this would lead to a theft charge for stealing pages from a Coroner's logbook
showing the arrival of jonbenet's body at the county Morgue his other arrest came when he attempted to walk out of a
photo processing store without paying for the roles of photos he picked up the photos turn out to be pictures of
corpses with party favors and signs attached to the bodies with phrases such as getting fired isn't the end of the
world or Yeehaw and happy birthday he called the photos works of art he served time for all of these charges
this is somebody that's very strange with some very strange actions and behaviors that seem to be circling
around this case I don't believe that he has ever been officially named a suspect Captain next
we have Gary Olivia he's 32 year old sex offender living in Boulder Colorado when
JonBenet was killed um the convicted pedophile had been living in the area on and off in 2000 Gary was arrested for a
drug charge when searching the man police find a magazine cut out of JonBenet Ramsey in his backpack
according to Rolling Stone magazine the Ramsay's private investigator Ollie gray
once referred to Olivia's ties to JonBenet as a quote bombshell arrest in the case and lambasted the boulder PD
for failing to consider him a more credible suspect soon after Olivia's high school friend
Michael Vale stepped forward with an allegation supporting Gray's suspicion Vale claimed that not long after the
murder a distrau Olivia called him on the phone and confessed to his longtime pal that he quote hurt a
little girl I thought he actually caught him on the 26th Vale makes some strong claims about Olivia and I'm not going to
go into all of them but they are well they're disturbing to say the least Vale also said that in his opinion the
knots for the garat that strangled JonBenet were similar to those used in an incident where Olivia attempted to
choke his mother to death with a telephone cord and when Gary Olivia was arrested they also found in his
possession a stun gun several experts on this case have said after viewing photos
of jonbenet's body that the attacker may have used a stun gun to subdue and control the child Olivia has a rest for
possessing child pornography as well Olivia by his own admission lived about eight blocks away from the Ramses
and was seen and photographed at the one-year Memorial vigil held for JonBenet in front of the Ramsey's
Boulder Home yeah he's not hard to pick out because he looks like the creep he looks like a guy that when you close
your eyes and go okay what what kind of guy do I picture that's been convicted of these types of charges you go oh and
you open up your eyes and you see his picture you go yeah that that makes sense yeah he's he's a creepy but also
scary looking man in my opinion yeah he's not a guy that some of these Torpedoes you go hey leave me in a room
with that guy I'll take care of him this guy you might not want to be locked in the room with him
well and I didn't go into all of vale's allegations against what type of person and what this dude
is capable of right because it's very disturbing in in some shocking things to hear but what I can say is this is an
individual that if Veil is correct that if his allegations are in fact true then
this man is very violent and very violent towards those weaker than him towards people that are
and animals that are just kind of defenseless wasn't there rumors that he had a shrine to JonBenet I saw those
rumors as well the only thing that I could back up was the statement that there was a picture on his person at the
time of his arrest of JonBenet that had been cut out of a magazine I couldn't verify this elsewhere but according to
Rolling Stone magazine they say he's been cleared by DNA testing for the JonBenet murder yes this famous DNA
right next up Captain we have a man named Michael helgoth they call him boot man or simply boots he's another
potential suspect this according to ollie gray remember the Ramsay's private investigator
Michael helgoth who worked in a nearby auto salvage yard he was apparently in some kind of property dispute with the
Ramses now this could be one of many motivating factors for this when the then 26 year old man went to seek
revenge against John Ramsey in 1997 the boulder district attorney delivered a speech at a press conference
complete with the promise of justice for JonBenet and that this case will be solved he pointed out that they have
suspects and as law enforcement continues to work their investigation that list of suspects will shrink until
there is just one left you speaking to the killer this was a powerful announcement scripted with carefully
chosen words letting the killer know that the boulder D.A was zeroing in on a new suspect helgoth according to his
co-worker at the time of the murder this is John Kennedy he says helgoth exhibited a bevy of
disturbing behaviors everyone the details he was known for what I call severe cruelty to animals he
once said to Kennedy I wonder what it would be like to crack a skull now anybody that's listened to our JonBenet
autopsy episode knows exactly what we are hinting at here in November of 1996 he told his
co-worker that he and an associate were going to make 50 to 60 thousand dollars each remember the ransom note was for
one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars total then after Christmas helgoth seemed depressed
and his co-worker says he thinks he was depressed because he did not make this large amount of
money that he was talking about in November yeah because on the side he would buy old vehicles and restore him
so they had these plans to buy certain vehicles and well now he didn't have the money the the money didn't come in that
he was claiming he was going to get so if he stood to make fifty or sixty thousand dollars from some kind of
unknown business adventure then right but he said you know we could buy up all these cars and turn it into
even more money is what you're saying right oddly enough and this could just be a coincidence it
could be something incredibly important but the day after the D.A speech that says we are zeroing in on a suspect
helgoth he turns up dead after his death police searched his things and photos of his well let's just
go back because most people believe it was a suicide but because of certain pieces of evidence
it could lead somebody to believe that it was possibly murder and set up to look like a suicide correct when they're
searching his items they're searching photos of his police saw two things of particular interest one a stun gun and
two a pair of black high-tech brand boots this is believed that they would have matched or possibly matched one of
two sets of unidentified footprints found in the Ramsey's basement even more disturbing within helgas Video
Collection was a news station story about an unsolved murder seemingly hidden in the middle of a movie Law
Enforcement stated that the video plays along and then boom in the middle of this movie
it breaks to like news coverage it all of a sudden has news coverage on there from Channel 4 regarding the abduction
and murder of a five-year-old girl who was found stuffed into a sleeping bag in Deer Creek Canyon this case is from
1993. now as you were getting to here Captain this is the time for the speculation and something that many
people have offered their opinions on over the years the belief is officials found an
unidentified boot print and an unidentified shoe print at the crime scene and helgoth owned boots that would
match that print helgoth caught wind that he was a suspect and decided to take his own life
committing suicide just a day after the 1997 press conference the famous press conference where district attorney Alex
Hunter says I want to say something to the person or persons that committed this crime the person or persons that
took this baby from us I mention the list of suspects Narrows and soon there will only be one left on the list and it
will be you you have stripped us of any Mercy we may have had in the beginning of this case we will see that Justice is
served in this case and that you pay for what you did many people believe that the district attorney was hinting at the
idea of seeking the death penalty for whoever is responsible for this murder and this could scare the offender even
more so the thought and speculation here captain his death his suicide being a further
sign of guilt that he was close or felt that he was close to being apprehended so what if helgoth was a suspect then
what if he did as many believe some people suggested he could have had an accomplice
well if so then many point toward John Stephen gigix being the accomplice John a man with a criminal record that court
documents summarized as violence and a history of sexual assault what makes this Theory even more
complicated is the suggestion Helga did not commit suicide but was killed by someone maybe gigix this to prevent
helgoth from confessing during the interrogation or from turning himself in and then singing like a bird and turning
in his accomplice as well well I think of the crime scene they found the gun in his subdominant
hand not his dominant hand yeah so he shot himself and he shot himself in the chest or somebody shot him in the chest
and placed the gun in his hand it's also a weird place to shoot yourself if you're trying to kill yourself correct
now gigix in his defense and by all accounts that I could find Captain of his own free will
he was the one that reached out and contacted Boulder authorities and he says he provided them with documentation
that proves he was not in Boulder Colorado on December 25th 1996. right but let's think about this
for a second he's running around saying that he's going to get some money coming
to some money possibly 50 to 60 000 that would put us at the 118 Mark that's in the ransom note
so he's not getting this money from his partner it doesn't seem like maybe they're being hired by somebody else so
maybe possibly the person that was going to hire them since it was about botch job and was afraid that maybe they would
go to authorities that they got rid of him and then the partner that was involved contacts the police because
he's afraid that the same thing that happened into how Garth is going to happen to him
yeah the the problem with helgoth is there's so much speculation around him regarding I mean everything about the
guy one is he even connected two did he ever think he was a suspect right three did
he commit suicide for I mean people commit suicide for a million different reasons
or was he murdered by somebody to cover it could have covered anything up well one of the reasons why he is a pretty
big suspect in a lot of people's eyes when they're looking at this case is because seeing is believing it's good
to be seen and it's good to see you and when you see the pictures from either the suicide scene
or a murder scene you see this stun gun you see the boots that possibly match the prince found in
the Ramsay's home so I think just by seeing it you go oh well there it is it's right in front of
us possibly I think the problem here with helgoth is again the speculation involved and in the leaps you have to
make to make him a really good suspect one we have no confirmation that a stun gun was used in the attack against
JonBenet at all it's just correct that in itself is speculation so but right but what I'm stating is once you see at
this suicide scene or or this murder scene oh there's a stun gun in the picture there there's the high-tech boots in the
picture I think that's why people have been able to make other leaps because they can see something and seeing is
believing well what you're seeing there is evidence that you cannot exclude him yeah as a suspect you're seeing things
that point to possible reasons that would make him a suspect if in fact those puzzle pieces fit somewhere we
can't confirm that they fit regarding the boots themselves and the unidentified boot print or shoe print
that was found in the Ramsay's basement that's very troubling that we have unidentified shoe prints in the Ramsey's
basement we have people that that fight and argue about was it Intruder was it an inside job
you could take those unidentified prints and make an argument for either side of
that argument you you there were so many people in the basement the people coming
in and out be it before the murder or after because we have a contaminated crime scene that it could be
the the prince mean nothing right but the prince could also Point toward a possible Intruder the the the trouble
again with helgoth is just one more factoid in there is that we don't have a confirmed
size for this boot print there's no there's nobody out there that has said they were absolutely this size
in fact it has been ruled that they could not determine the size the exact size of the blueprint so would in fact
those boots even match up with that print and again with this famous DNA I believe they've asked the family
of how goth to cooperate and and let them try to get some DNA to test and I believe they have said no
I'm glad you threw that in there because this is one thing that we've run into with this case it's been reported so
many times over the more than 20 years now and reported so many different ways by
so many different sources it's tough to keep things straight sometimes and one thing that I found extremely troubling
in regards to Michael helgoth is several sources in print say he's been cleared by DNA and I I throw that back
at the wall to see if it sticks and I don't know that it sticks because I wonder if if truly if the jury is out if
still out on this one because not every Source states that he has been cleared well in fact in fact as you pointed out
I have some sources that say they they're seeking DNA they're seeking more evidence on this particular suspect yeah
it's very interesting I was telling you that Lou Smith's family has taken the list of suspects that he
basically was narrowing down his search and they've been asking those individuals to submit DNA a lot of them
have and based off that DNA they've been able to clear that individual or based off more investigative work they've been
able to clear that individual so it's interesting that his family decided to keep going with his work and and
believing in this work even though they don't come from law enforcement background and in that documentary I was
watching about the family going after new suspects that's what it stated that they have already asked for the DNA and
have been denied it by the family so but again a lot of these documentaries put in whatever evidence they want to go
with their narrative foreign [Music] cheers mates cheers to you Captain this week we are drinking Christmas Ale by
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this year and if you've donated and not heard your name we will get to you in the new year now Captain we are on the
trail of the possible Intruder into the Ramsey home that may have killed JonBenet Ramsey
and if we're talking Intruders well we would be remiss to not talk about possible Santa
Claus coming down the chimney into the Ramsey home and killing this young innocent girl
we are referencing of course Bill McReynolds who is now deceased he was a friend of the Ramses who dressed up like
Santa Claus to entertain the neighborhood children this at Several of Patsy's famous Christmas Gatherings he
went as far to introduce himself as Santa Bill and liked when people called him Santa Bill if you think he makes a
good suspect and if you like the Santa Claus Theory the theory may go something like this this is from Rolling Stone
McReynolds was rumored to have paid a little too much attention to JonBenet going so far as to arrange a secret
visit from Santa Claus this after Christmas now this is complete speculation we know that JonBenet
referenced a secret visit from Santa Claus after Christmas right we don't know that if that means it was Bill
McReynolds Santa bill that set this up supposedly he wanted JonBenet to be his quote special
friend going so far as to bring a vial of glitter gifted to him by the six-year-old with him into heart surgery
even stranger he asked his wife to mix the gold glitter in with his ashes if he were to die
this particular story generated Buzz In The Denver Post but failed to amount to anything more than what many have called
the sensationalized character assassination of a friendly old man that's what they say but I say let's
look at this a little more closely because I think some people will see more than just a sensationalized
character assassination Bill McReynolds is a retired Colorado University journalism professor he retired in 1992.
he was about 66 years old when JonBenet was killed he grew his beard long so a natural long white beard this was when
he signed up to play a role in a local play then later he was hired by Marilyn house to play Santa at the mall he
played Santa for the Ramses in 1994 95 and 96 at their parties he had bypass surgery on August 23 1996.
he and his wife Janet were invited by the Ramses to attend jonbenet's memorial service
some Publications state that JonBenet gave Mick Reynolds a tour of the Ramsey home in 1995. some Publications say 1996
either way what seems to be clear here apparently this did happen the only thing in question is which year yeah and
I would argue that it's possible that it happened both years hey Santa let me show you the
house again one report I found Captain says that JonBenet called Bill old Sam now another story that would have the
year in question is JonBenet gave him a vial of glitter that she said was Stardust
he would later say in all of the years he played Santa and for all the kids that he saw throughout that time she was
the only one to give him a gift again some Publications say she gave him the Stardust in 95 some say 96 one
publication which I think could in fact have it correct says this happened on two occasions once in 95 and again in 96
it would have happened had to have happened in 95 for the story about his heart surgery to be correct his Alibi
for the night in question was he was sleeping he went to bed at 10 pm now Captain I think he and his wife were at
their Mountain Home like a weekend vacation home this would have been about 30 miles away this Alibi was
investigated by many The Alibi includes more than just his wife at least five other people would have been present
that night here's where things get strange the McReynolds their nine-year-old daughter was kidnapped on the day after
Christmas December 26 1974. 22 years before quick with the math then we also have Janet McReynolds
his wife she wrote a play called Hey rube the play is a fictional account of the basement murder of 16 year old
Sylvia Likens in Indianapolis Indiana well hold on a second so the daughter is kidnapped with her friend
and I believe the friend was actually molested and the daughter witnessed that but the daughter herself was not
molested and both were let go yes and this was never solved and then two years later his wife will write this play
that's based off a a different uh crime correct and people Point toward the basement murder of a young girl as being
a connection here right what was the motivation for writing the the play are these two factors are they
coincidence or just too much to be a coincidence I would actually cross the second one
out this Janet writing the play about the murder teen who was killed in a basement
and I state that because that case it's a real life case and it's extremely famous case at least two books are
written about the case and then later in 2007 the film in american crime was released this is a very good movie
disturbing and haunting that is about the life and murder of Sylvia Likens we should point out too that other than
being a child Sylvia was 16 and being killed in a basement the murders could not be more different Sylvia's case was
quickly solved she was not killed in her basement she was staying or living with
a caregiver who turned out to be a sadistic old and evil woman and she and her children along with some of their
friends killed Sylvia shortly after the memorial service for JonBenet Bill and Janet went to Spain so this made them
very difficult to interview for police this was a long trip the McReynolds say they were not hiding from anyone they
didn't run away to Spain in fact the Spain trip was a coincidence they had they proved that the trip was planned
and booked well in advance this being in June of 1996. John Ramsey suggested that
maybe Bill McReynolds dressed as Santa fed JonBenet pineapple the night that she was killed and that he sat next to
her while she ate and he drank a cup of tea we point to this because we know from
some of the crime scene photographs that they photographed a bowl of what appears
to be pineapple on the table and nearby you have what appears to be a cup of tea yeah it's got the little the
little tea bag down in the cup yeah and we don't have fingerprints on the bowl we don't have JonBenet Ramsey's
fingerprints on the bowl but we do have a pineapple like substance that was found in her stomach so we know at some
point of that evening she ate pineapple and then the parents claim they never fed her pineapple before she went to bed
and apparently bill was known to drink hot tea well I I actually believe it's could be a little bit easier than that
because if we have a six-year-old girl that I believe is on the 23rd or 24th I'm not really for sure but when she
gets in the argument with her friend's mom and says Santa Claus is going to visit
me of course he's going to visit you he visits every kid on Christmas no the good ones yeah no no she says
after Christmas a special visit to me this is the thing in the case that has always been so odd and so is it possible
that she fell asleep on the ride home from all the parties she's a little six-year-old girl she's tired she falls
asleep and then she wakes up and she goes oh tonight Santa Claus is going to come visit me and so she went
downstairs on her own fed herself pineapple waiting for this visit from Santa Claus I I agree with
you 100 I mean the this is one of the more odd details within this story it's one of the very few items within the
story that's almost foreshadowing that something very bad is about to happen it just
doesn't it's something that that in hindsight makes sense that it that it lines up and it's it's Eerie it truly is
I put this in the same category as the the Phantom 9-1-1 call that came from their Christmas party right now bill was
not without his own Secrets he regularly visited adult bookstores this unbeknownst to his wife
John Ramsey suggested that sbtc and the ransom note Ransom letter as I would call it could actually be
sbjc which he said could stand for Santa Bill Janet Clause but but hold on a second too uh Janet
his wife is a movie critic that that's one of the things she writes for the paper so it doesn't have to be
Santa Bill Janet Clause it could still be sbtc and some people think that means Santa Bill the critic interesting I I
like trying to figure out what sbtc or maybe it is sbjc which I agree with you you when you look at it on the paper
it's possible that it could be the intention was to write a J not a t I think it's fascinating to try to
figure out what that could stand for however I think none of them that I have heard none none
that anyone has pointed out have have I gone oh that's interesting every one of them seem to be a leap like just a weird
connecting words that I don't think should be connected yeah but I mean look at the BTK Strangler
BTK what the heck does that mean we'd have no clue what that meant until we have the actual killer coming out and
stating this is what that means right when the McReynolds returned to Boulder from Spain they cooperated with the
police in the way of submitting fingerprints blood hair and handwriting samples later Boulder D.A Mary Lacy says
that she had McReynolds as her prime suspect for a Time his handwriting is listed as
questionable but his DNA is not a match according to a candyrose.com which has a
large database on this case yeah but there's also some speculation that his DNA was never collected so it again it's
one of those details in this case that you can't find the correct answer one article does state that the handwriting
sample quote eliminated Bill McReynolds again as you just pointed out there are many details within this story that are
argued different ways now we do know that the Ramses by their own admission hired a private
investigator I'm sorry private investigators to watch Bill's house for some time so the Ramses obviously not
only just John's statements but also the actions of the Ramses paying people to watch bill and his home for a period of
time next Captain we have Santa's son Jesse McReynolds he was interesting to police because of
his police record he served two and a half years in an Arizona prison for aggravated robbery
and kidnapping and he has an unverifiable alibi for the night in question Jesse lives in Nederland
Colorado this is about a 30-minute drive to Boulder Jesse says he was home alone
that night drinking scotch and then he took some of his prescription medication and he went to bed that night Scotch
Scotch Scotch Scotch I love Scotch Home Alone that night he he has provided police with fingerprints blood and
handwriting samples Steve Thomas a detective that we've referenced many times who worked the
case right says that the handwriting sample eliminated Jesse McReynolds that's in his opinion or provided to him
by the experts hired by the D.A let's stay on Santa bill for a little bit because this kidnapping 22 years
on the same day it just seems very fishy and it also seems very fishy to me that his daughter
and her friend were taken we now have a sexual assault on a minor but not to his daughter
and I would think that in this case that's not solved the parents would be suspects just like
they would be in the Ramsey case so I like that as a key piece of evidence the other thing too is I can't get over
the fact that a six-year-old is saying that Santa Claus is going to visit her after Christmas
that same six-year-old is found in her basement dead and that she has a relationship probably
too close of a relationship with a man that is a family friend that plays Santa Claus then when you get this
odd Ransom note seems like we have a lot of movie references well who's going to watch a lot of
movies a movie critic who's gonna probably watch those movies with his critic wife
the husband Santa Bell the other thing that I find odd is that Santa Bell would carry around these
stuffed animals with him they were like his helpers and most of the time they were dressed in Christmasy outfits and
there was a bear that was found on JonBenet Ramsey's bed you can see it in the crime scene photos now supposedly
this bear has gone missing since and uh I looked for days because I thought this
was as important as JonBenet saying that she's going to be visited by Santa Claus after Christmas
now One Source that I found said that this bear was actually bought for remember
how she won Miss Christmas yeah they said that a lot of the people participating got these Santa Claus
bears but these bears look very similar to the Bears that Saint uh Santa bill would carry around and they even asked
his son about him hey you see this bear doesn't this look kind of like what your
dad carries around he's like that looks pretty much identical to something he would carry around so I find that odd
what another thing about Santa bill is when you're asleep and yes you're 30 miles away so you have to get in your
car that's a long drive if everybody else is asleep as long as you get back before they wake
up you're good to go so I don't really count that as a solid Alibi I question The Alibi as well
um I mean there's more than just his wife but yeah and I wanted to point out that it was investigated by many and
that includes you know Boulder detectives it includes a journalist it includes the private investigators I mean it's a
lot of different people coming from a lot of different angles that did investigate that alibi
the problem is I don't know what investigated that alibi means that's the only statement given I don't have we
don't have confirmation that says oh these 18 different people or these different agencies all can confirm
without question that these five to seven people can account for bills whereabouts for the night of Christmas
no man it says it was investigated but I I have to believe that they by that statement that they believe it
to be true but I wanted a little more than than just that and then regarding his the the kidnapping of his daughter
and her friend 22 years to the day right again it's another situation one because it's 1974. there's very little
information about that particular crime other than it's unsolved so I don't know
if they had reason to believe that they knew who did it or if they had a really good suspect in that case
and likely there's a chance that if the other girl was the one that was molested
she may may have been in fact the the target it's it's but the the thing that you
can't get over and if anybody tells me that they can get get over it let's sit down and have a beer because
22 years to the day there's 365 days in a year and it happens on the same date that's just freaking weird to me it
sounds like something that you would see in a movie or or a fix fictionalized version of of some kind of crime
right and but to call the Santa Bill uh a pedophile I don't think we have any no
you're right we have no evidence of that that would be way out of bounds right but it's also
but he's creepy to me man he's creepy but on top of that right but on top of that we know with pedophiles they put
themselves in situations to be around children which he is doing and the fact that he also
would be going to adult stores video stores to me I don't have a problem with that
my issue is the fact that your wife didn't know about it that becomes creepy to me the thing
that's that's odd about that to me is that he like he doesn't try to hide this from the police
I think they found out on their own and they present it to him and he he was embarrassed but they they're they
say his reaction wasn't that of somebody that's guilty of anything more than that
particular action they believed he was just embarrassed one for for other people knowing this
and his statement to them now mind you this is not been released to the public as far as
the details go but his generalized statement to the detectives was that he has some type of
fantasy that that he's not his wife is unaware of that it's something that he's he's been into for a long time and kids
what's that I was gonna say like kids go ahead well I don't know what that would what the fantasy is my guess is
that the detectives do being he's purchasing things at an adult bookstore they usually don't they don't
sell things that involve children I mean uh so we we know that but I also have to wonder is his fantasy
something that that the detectives did not find to be relevant to the case yeah I mean because when you could have some
homosexual tendencies or or fantasies and and then they go well that doesn't line up
but again where's the evidence of whatever he's stating and like you said yes they don't sell
child pornography at adult bookstores but if you're if you're making claims to throw them off the scent in any way
how's this backed up and then we have this situation again where if JonBenet Ramsey ate pineapple with
the intruder that the Intruder would be somebody that she would have known and also felt
comfortable with and I also think what a great way to show up in your Sanic outfit and
therefore even if John or Patsy woke up yeah you're a little odd and yeah it would take some
discussing and they might never invite you back to their house but you could go well I told her I was going to visit her
so I just I I got a key and I was just going to let myself in and leave her a gift
and even though they claim that these bears were bought for this pageant I can't confirm that other than just
some simple line on some internet uh thread and to me it's very odd that there's
this bear that neither one of the parents know about and now it's missing and we have a police department that I
think was so focused on putting this on the parents that they didn't do a good enough job
working on these other suspects I also think with the handwriting samples we don't have any fingerprints or DNA that
I know of on the letters so we can assume that this individual is writing these letters with some kind of
glove on well how much does that glove alter their handwriting and so unless you're giving people
handwriting samples where you're making them wear a certain type of glove I don't think you're going to get the
correct answers there and then they say and this is the most asinine thing I heard from law enforcement probably in
the whole case well we also ruled out Santa bill because he had heart conditions so he physically
couldn't do this okay well and I was telling you about this local detective I sat down and talked with him about the
Ramsay case and I was saying yeah this is Santa bill there's a lot of things that line up to make him look like the
best suspect and even the D.A at some point said hey he's the best suspect or believe that she thought he was the
best suspect for a while and this detective went on to tell me that they had a case where everything
was pointing to this gentleman but he was in very bad health condition and he was actually walking with two canes
so the more and more they're going we think it's this guy but he physically couldn't do it
so they brought him in had him take a lie detector he fails and then he admits to the whole crime it
gives a full confession and then they have to figure you know well how were you able to do this
it was a sexually motivated crime and the adrenaline gave this guy the strength to do it
the one was more than where this desire was more than the the pain you know the or the physical
limitations and see I would also argue too that you go you write this note this this
Ransom note I also think that the ransom note proves that somebody had some idea
about writing they put too many commas in there for some simple Criminal so you have this girl down in the
basement and like I said to you I don't know see with the grot that is going to determine how hard you
can strangle the person not your physical limitations the grind helps you choke now the grot
based on most autopsies or the way people look at the autopsy the choking wasn't to kill her the choking was
for sexual gratification it was a sexual act so that's where I wonder did Santa Bill put JonBenet Ramsey into that
suitcase and then try to get that suitcase out the window or try to move her at some
point and drops her creating the fracture on the skull and then at some point goes I can't
physically carry her out of here so now I just have to leave so I think the physical limitations can come into
play because you don't have to carry her down to the basement because you're saying a bill and she feels
comfortable and she showed you the basement before you can just say hey can you show me the basement again
and now you're at the crime scene regarding I I got to go go through your stuff here real quick before we move on
if I find you in my house in the middle of the night there's no explanation you're getting a free ride to the county
jail and you're going to get to stay the night there for free as well but I get well no no you're not you're going
to leave my house in an ambulance if you're if you're at the kitchen table with my daughter
at midnight one o'clock dressed as Santa Claus you're going to be going to the hospital
the other thing that I I want to kind of echo here Captain is I don't know how well
you can trust these handwriting samples to eliminate someone I'm with you I think it's very strange
that they use that word well we we analyze so-and-so's handwriting and determined that they did not write the
letter and we know that they made Patsy Ramsey write the note over four times one of uh John Ramsey's
worker Partners um Merriman they had him write it over seven times so they just take one sample
from Bill or or what what you want to do in those situations as an investigator is you
want to collect a handwriting sample that you believe to be something that this person wrote before you're
there asking them to write something for you right so and we know that did happen
in the case of John and Patsy Ramsey we know that it did happen in some of the other uh suspects or people that
were looked at as well but where I'm going with this whole how can we eliminate somebody with a handwriting
sample to just kind of echo your point one there is very strong reason to believe
that the author was wearing gloves at the time that they wrote this letter there's also reason to believe and this
is based off of the expert's opinion this is not dumb Nick crispy colonel the notorious Nic here in the garage
coming up with uh with a stupid opinion but the experts have stated that they have reason to believe that
it's possibly authored by a right-handed individual that was choosing to write the letter left-handed they believed
this so much that they conducted a study to determine how long it would take a right-handed person to write this letter
left-handed the average time that they came out with was 35 minutes that's copying the note from a note that you
would have brought with you or in this case for the the purpose of these tests that they were conducting they're
looking at the ransom letter and copying it then with their left hand I don't want to get too much into the
note because as we've already shown you can get wrapped up in a two-hour conversation about the note itself so
let's just talk about it again I just want to point out that I think that it's very difficult and I think it's actually
irresponsible to say that you're going to eliminate People based off of handwriting sample and to your point as
well Captain especially if you have somebody that you've only collected one sample from them yeah the other thing I
want to point out is that I was reading a lot of speculation it came from multiple internet sources that after the
murder Santa bill would talk about that he also had a remember how JonBenet was his
special friend that he didn't have too many special friends but he had a special friend
earlier and I've I have looked everywhere for this I have found names um but I can't find any proof of this at
all other than he was saying that he had another special friend that was actually
murdered I think five years before and was a seven-year-old boy again I found two different names for
that seven-year-old boy but I cannot find any proof that this boy existed or was murdered
or anything I shied away from that on purpose because some of the information I found
suggested that the the child was was sick was terminally ill and passed away from some type of illness which is fine
but when you go around telling a bunch of people that you had another special friend that was murdered
that's a little strange if they weren't murdered well if in fact he said that if
the child died of of an illness he's not going to be telling people that again I I do want to point out we don't
have any real strong evidence here Santa Bill truly does weird me out the more I
look at him the more he weirds me out and I don't just mean I'm not talking about appearance I'm talking about
actions and and things surrounding him and his name as it relates to this case I would love to sit down for a couple
beers or even a couple cup of coffee with the D.A that once said this was maybe some hot tea
this was my Prime Suspect I want to know why this particular D.A believed that they
could not eliminate him after so many others say that you could I do I do very much full of [ __ ] look when when we know
for a fact that they're releasing information to the media stating that it had to be inside job because there's no
Footprints and I've seen all these idiots online say well you know there was no Footprints and it's as simple as
did you see all the photos of that day and when you find out that not only is there a roadway that goes up to a to
driveway that goes to the house that you know has all these sidewalks that have no snow on it
wouldn't you just not walk through the grass it it's it baffles me that they would put out
this information knowing that it's false well there was no footprints in the snow
so therefore it had to be inside job but you're not telling the full story it's not fully covered in snow
so it just drives me nuts and then so all these other and look and I'm not saying that the Ramses are innocent what
I'm saying is that you have to investigate everybody equally and it doesn't seem like that happened here who
are you saying is full of [ __ ] law enforcement and the police but I was talking about the district attorney I
want to know why this district attorney says and publicly states that at one time this guy was my Prime Suspect I
would love to know what they're basing that off of in comparison to what law enforcement was basing off that we can
eliminate this guy I do even as weird as as as I feel about Santa bill I do question the likelihood
of his involvement and I will I will Echo some of their opinions stating that I I don't believe that he was in the best
physical condition having heart surgery just five months before the murder right
I also one thing that that I wonder about too when we talk about having physical evidence in this case mind you
yes the crime scene is contaminated I'm I will believe nothing other than that statement right there 100 I I think
everybody involved even the idiots that are involved say hey but this is a contaminated we're talking about an
individual that has a Long White Beard that's not we did we didn't have a hundred people walk in that home that
night or that next morning that had a long white beard can anybody with a beard to me it's not the hair so
much of the beard meaning look if if you're not carrying her then chances are the hair wouldn't get
on her but if they're if we believe that there was a sexual assault that would believe that
that they would find something I think it would be more likely that they would find some kind of dry skin because the
beard will really dry out your skin and so that would find some kind of dry skin
that would link him not so much of hair and then with the hair even if you found a hair you have
the argument that two days beforehand or on the 23rd that this person is in the house this individual is in the house
and that would give you reason to believe that you'd find their DNA or fingerprints anywhere correct but
for me if it was an intruder that killed JonBenet the only way that works is that
there was a sexual assault this means there was a violent and physical struggle that took place at some place
some point in that home very likely in that wine cellar and that's where I would suspect to find
more physical evidence of our offender in regards to Jesse McReynolds we mentioned his kidnapping conviction that
that's what kind of put him in front of the police's eyes and it certainly sounds interesting but
I think that we should point out that that charge that conviction of kidnapping it sounds much more ominous
than it truly was the facts of that case from my understanding Captain he held up
a gas station Rob the place of just a little more than a 100 and he used a gun during the
commission of that robbery and he moved the clerk basically from one side of the
the building or store to the other side and at the time in Arizona their law they're stating if you move a
person from point A to point B using a weapon you've technically kidnapped that that individual so
where where I go to if this was an intruder one of the motives may have been actual kidnapping right so it makes
this guy sound interesting however that is not what his his previous charge and conviction was was for it's a very very
different type of crime so while we're on the subject I think that is a good segue to our next possible suspect or
someone who was considered a suspect at some point Gary Merriman Gary Merriman was access Graphics Director of Human
Resources he publicly has stated that he felt that he was a suspect he previously
worked 14 years in criminal justice as a psychologist including years at the Florida Department of Corrections he's
kind of a natural fit I think for at least some questioning by police of course detectives are going to look into
individuals working for or working with access graphics he is also the man that answered the
phone the morning of what was believed at the time to be a kidnapping when John Ramsey called his work
informing them as to what was going on or what he believed was going on right I think it's fair for Merriman to say
that he considered himself a suspect not because he considers himself to be guilty of anything or look suspicious
he's sedating that that the actions of the detectives indicated to him that he must be considered a suspect well I
think they had him give over seven handwriting samples he was questioned multiple times he gave as you stated at
least seven handwriting samples he also provided police with his fingerprints he
gave blood and he gave hair as well I can't find any documentation to state that that any of this evidence would be
a match to evidence collected at the scene there have been many reports that state that regarding the handwriting
analysis that maryman could not be ruled out as a possible author of The Ransom letter yeah I've actually seen that he
was on the higher Spectrum as far as a match goes higher than even fancy Ramsey was and I know we just said that or I
just said that I I think it's irresponsible to say we've eliminated somebody based off of handwriting
analysis but we should point out that out of all the handwriting samples that they took most of these people were
quote unquote ruled out or eliminated right and then we have very few that that stayed on the the list of people we
cannot rule out now Merriman just like several other people in this case who were questioned multiple times or the
request for multiple handwriting samples asked by police he's one of several that
that stood up in his own defense to the police and said something to the effect of you know I'm here assisting you and
cooperating in your investigation where are the Ramses what are they doing at this time you've talked to me multiple
times you've asked me for this this and this and I've provided this this and this to you
what is going on with the case that that they are not being looked at some of these individuals I believe that
they truly just felt that they were beating being treated unfairly in the eyes of the detectives and the police
now Gary Merriman is not an individual that John Ramsey told the police that they should look into but Jeff Merrick
is somebody and there's also somebody that Gary Merriman said the police should look into yeah and the basic
story of Jeff Merrick is he's an x-axis Graphics employee he met John Ramsey in 1971. he knew him for a very long time
he met him when they both worked at at T in Columbus Ohio now he was one of the individuals that
helped Ramsey start access or whatever the micro south or whatever it was called at the time
he quit in 1996. this is when according to Merrick when the the company was in trouble and the
RAM and Ramsay needed to cut some salaries so he says access Graphics owed him 118
000 yeah well that's an interesting amount apparently they settled and he did receive half of that money
he did file ethics violations with corporate headquarters at Lockheed Martin which owned access graphics
according to the book death of Innocence on page 66 this is John Ramsey's words Jeff Merrick who had threatened to bring
me an axis Graphics down when he left the company in 1996. so as you were pointing out Captain this is an
individual that John Ramsey names by name on day one when asked by police and detectives do
you have any enemies well yeah because he was making threats too yeah so he names Jeff Merrick as an enemy we have
John sorry Gary Merriman for for the last four weeks I've been wanting to call that guy John Merriman his name's
Gary Nick it's Gary anyway Gary Merriman says that Jeff Merrick would be an enemy
as well and then we have Nedra Nedra is Patsy's mother okay when she is asked for a list of suspects she
included Jeff Merrick and his vicious wife which is Kathy Merrick one little known fact inside this story
that that I think gets lost and I don't know how important it is but it's interesting
for the makeup of the company and the makeup of John's success and Patsy and her family in relationship to John's
success her father was very much involved in all of John Ramsey's businesses okay he helped Ramsay as as did Patsy
helped John set up his businesses initially when his company was in trouble financially it was Patsy's
father that bailed him out with a loan and to further that at one point we have his father-in-law John Ramsey's
father-in-law Patsy Ramsey's father working for John Ramsey so this statement by Nedra from Patsy's
mother is not just simply somebody who's on the outside looking in who just overheard this from John and Patsy right
this is somebody that has Insider knowledge of things going on at access graphics
according to Kathy Merrick and Jeff Merrick their Alibi for the night in question is they visited Kathy's
brother-in-law in Aurora Colorado and then visited dick and Diane Foote and they were home around 8pm
watch TV and then went to bed so not a great Alibi and the stuff that I see in front of me here Captain states that
they did not cooperate in the sense of giving fingerprints blood hair handwriting samples
I couldn't find a confirmation that those things were provided from Jeff Merrick to
the authorities I will say this he was questioned multiple times and he did answer their questions and he too just
like Gary Merriman was one that said I'm here answering your questions where is John Ramsey he's accused me of this of
being a suspect and I'm reading in the papers that you guys are unable to speak to the Ramsey
family were they able to test his DNA do you know the information that I have states that none of that was provided to
police but they pretty much kind of rolled him out I again I don't have any information stating that they ruled him
out I the information I have states he was questioned multiple times to which he ultimately ended up getting
confrontational with them in the end because he's reading in the paper and seeing on TV that the Ramses are
Untouchable and they won't answer the police's questions but here you are disrupting my personal life right by
asking me the same questions on several occasions well let's get to a guy Chris wolf
yeah his real name is Robert Christian wolf he's extremely interesting to me for a number of reasons one he's not
somebody that was on the inner circle of the Ramses or on the inner circle of access Graphics this is like an unknown
Intruder he comes to our attention from his girlfriend his girlfriend Jackie dilson
she comes forward to police and States because remember there is a time that's going on here where the police and the
Ramses are asking the public for their help so she comes forward to Boulder Police
and states that Chris wolf was out all night long regarding the knight in question and when he came home he was
covered in mud and he was acting extremely strange this is all her opinion obviously
the weird connection he may have is this kind of furthers this suspicion along here
is this same girlfriend adds that he should be considered a suspect in the death in the murder of Suzanne Chase who
was killed December 21st 1997 wolf apparently dated Suzanne chase at some point his knowledge regarding the Ramses or
the case itself he was a journalist who worked as a reporter for Colorado daily and for the Boulder County Business
reports and apparently he interviewed Cheryl McGraw who is a secretary at access graphics
he comes onto our radar Again by a tip from his girlfriend at the time it states here now this is his own
claims so I cannot back this up but wolf was a guest on The O'Reilly Factor and this was from May of 2000s 2000 where he
States in his interview that he did provide fingerprints and hair and handwriting samples
again that's his claims the weird thing about Chris wolf though is his Alibi is completely the opposite statement from
his girlfriends Chris wolf says I was in bed early approximately 9 30 or 10 p.m I
did not wake up or get up or go out until the next morning right according to the book perfect murder perfect Town
it does state that Chris wolf did provide his DNA and it was not a match for what they were looking for
the next one we're going to have to call the unknown suspect and this is in reference to a crime that occurred just
nine months after JonBenet was murdered this takes place in an affluent part of Boulder not terribly far from the
Ramsey's home a mother and her 12 year old daughter came home from the movies they are alone in their home it's late
the mom sets the burglar alarm and goes to bed an intruder crept into the girl's
bedroom he put his hand over the girl's mouth said the girl's name and told her he knew her
he starts a sexual assault and it's believed he was working toward a possible Abduction of this girl as well
but the mother she wakes up she hears noises and goes to her daughter's room she sees the man
he runs and he goes out of a bedroom window jumps off the roof to the ground below and flees the area
the man was dressed in all black from head to toe and wearing a mask this 12 year old girl attended the same
dance studio as JonBenet the dance West Studio this person has never been identified and we have the father of the
victim who says he believes that the Intruder may have already been hiding inside the home when the mother
and daughter returned to the house just waiting there to attack this girl right we've seen that in a lot of different
cases seems like to me like this is a great lead and something that law enforcement should have followed up on
more because we have that connection of the dance studio and and having especially uh
a predator that is able to go to a place that he knows that kids are going to be
at he can walk in there freely basically stalk these individuals and then attack them at their home the dance
studio very well could have nothing to do with that attack it is a weird connection to getting us back to
jonbenet's case their home not being terribly far from the Ramses the right the second crime taking place just nine
months later those are all very weird things that that really put a chance that this offender is somehow
in the the circle of the Ramses or the neighborhood or that dance studio it's really truly interesting and the other
thing too I want to point out for me anyway if the Intruder theory in the Ramsay case is in fact correct then I
believe that we need to have a certain level of criminal sophistication where here we have that in this particular
crime we see somebody that is good at getting into the home they got close to the assault that they were seeking
potential Abduction of this girl and they were able to flee the area without being identified okay so there is some
sophistication there but way back in 2004 Aaron Moriarty reported the following the boulder district attorney
investigators haven't completely ruled out anyone and have a list of people that like to talk to reportedly more
than 100 names it's a list that still includes Gary Olivia and anyone who can shed more light on the mysterious death
of Michael helgoth and that includes their friends and Associates that investigators strongly consider people
of interest there is now what is believed to be a complete DNA profile of JonBenet Ramsey's killer an unknown male
there is strong evidence that he may have had an accomplice and that he may have tried to kill again
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Brief Summary

The episode examines JonBenet Ramsey's murder, focusing on various suspects and theories, including the Intruder Theory and key figures involved in the investigation.

Key points

Intruder Theory. Experts point toward the Intruder Theory, suggesting a motive tied to John Ramsey.
Michael Helgoth's Mysterious Death. Suspect Michael Helgoth died under suspicious circumstances shortly after being named a suspect.
Santa Claus Theory. The theory suggests a man dressed as Santa Claus may have been involved in JonBenet's murder.
The Secret Santa Visit. JonBenet expressed anticipation for a special visit from Santa after Christmas, raising eyebrows.
The Eerie Coincidence. A chilling connection emerges between the kidnapping of McReynolds' daughter and JonBenet's case.
Santa Bill's Secrets. Bill McReynolds had hidden habits that raised suspicions during the investigation.

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