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thanks for listening I'm your host Nick and with me as always is the Ghost with the most but don't say his name three
times ladies and gentlemen the captain I won't I won't do it can't do do it won't
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make sure you tell all your friends run around screaming at your neighbors give me some candy Listen to True Crime
[Music] garage tonight at the Halloween party we are drinking October Fest by Brooklyn
Brewing from Brooklyn New York that's the garage grade how about we give it 4 and 1/2 bottle caps out of five this
rocking Brooklyn October Fest was brought to us by some of our Gastly garage nasties first we have Noel in
Grove City Ohio hm that sounds like a wonderful little Community we also have Lauren and Spokane Washington and
there's Elaine in vastel New York Elaine says nice jib nice jib back to you I don't know if we should call them our
nasties I don't know how nice that is it's a Halloween party Ghouls and ghosts you got a nasty jib
that's right also we want to say hi to Stephanie in Indianapolis Indiana who says keep up the good work guys next we
have Gwenna in Long Beach California also Jason in New York New York he says he wants to buy us a keg and he also
says that his favorite thing is heading to Upstate New York with his dog and listening to True Crime garage at night
because it scares the hell out of him I want to know more about this keg that he's going to buy M like your jib wonder
what it cost to ship a ceg and last but certainly not least worth it for him we have a very happy Halloween too the acid
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garage.com and and so you may have guessed it tonight is our big Halloween party and we are going to take a little
break from the Halloween action I know you're probably going to hear this a couple days afterwards but we couldn't
get it out on that night we're traditionalist we had to have the Halloween party in the garage on
Halloween night so but tonight we're also going to talk about our favorite true crime documentaries of all time so
we're going to get to that right after this oh good one so grab a chair grab a beer and let's talk some true cra maybe
grab two maybe grab some candy when it says take one take five say help yourself thank you so much you've earned
it thank you let's get in the [Music] garage this is true crime garage and this is the Halloween
show [Music] was guilty of capital murder this doesn't change anything our son de our son and
he was tortured to death by three murdering bastards on a ditch bike he was 8 years old
the damn system stinks it's a great tragedy that kids was to kill but it's also another great tragedy that American
citizens anybody today's public can just be picked up for a crime they didn't commit everybody in the town and in the
courtroom and on the jury are all blinded by their fantasies about satanic [Music]
cults there it is your [Music] C right of course what can't [Music] matter [Music]
Cain Kurt Cobain is dead hiring me is not like hiring an attorney it's not to protect you my job
is to find the truth all kinds of red flags started popping up she starts telling us these
things that just didn't add up save the American Icon Tom that was suspicious to me and This
Woman's husband had just been found dead and there didn't seem to be any sadness
[Music] whatsoever if I'm guilty it means that I am the ultimate figure to fear because I'm
not the obvious one the girl known as Foxy everyone is talking [Music] about from as long as I remember I
wanted to be someone else we had no idea what kind of person were we were getting he had changed so much
there was just something wrong about [Music] [Music] it about 15 buildings here have been
abandoned for quite some time they did a lot of searching for the kids here specifically for Jennifer and I believe
Holly [Music] am growing up on Staten Island Barbara and I had often heard the legend of
cropsy you're supposed to have a hook a knife about this big cropsy was the Escape mental patient who lived in the
tunnels beneath the old abandoned willbrook mental institution who would come out late at night snatch children
off the [Music] street [Music] 12-year-old John gshh had been delivering papers in this affluent
neighborhood of West de Mo that was the last time he was seen the parents believe the boy is alive and has been
kidnapped Johnny we love you we're waiting for you to come home we're doing everything in our power to get you
[Music] back take care babe thousands of people have been searching for the boy but
nothing [Music] all right this is some Halloween party we're having here tonight Captain yeah
can I get anybody a drink maybe some candy the captain made a uh scary hairy buffalo I tell you I had a I had a sip
of that a few minutes ago and I fell right over well I thought there were going to be more people in the garage
but there it's just me and you it's always just me and you well and you know what I was surprised that I sent a few
invites out to some celebrities and uh I'm really surprised not to see them here you know Johnny Depp I I talked to
him and he said you know I'd love to make it out to the garage for your Halloween party but I'm busy with the
Hollywood vampires I'm tour did he kind of talk like he has a a little bit of a British accent well I couldn't tell if
he was just I just can't make it tonight I couldn't tell if he was just putting me off you know that if he was just like
kind of trying to be nice but not really being nice well Rachel McAdams the invitation is always in the mail I also
sent a Facebook invite to your good friend Anderson Cooper but in traditional Anderson like fashion he
didn't even bother to respond I can't I mean come on he he said f off that's what he replied well Anderson Cooper
maybe next year okay so what we decided to do since we're we talk about a lot of
uh creepy cases and it kind of gets us down a little bit and these are some creepy cases but what we're going to be
talking about today in the garage is our top 10 True Crime documentary list yes and originally we agreed that we would
each come up with our own list and we would mesh them together and we would you know come up with an ultimate garage
list but uh of course we could not agree on any of these things so uh we're just
going to go with our different list yeah we agreed on some lined up pretty close
I think yeah but then there there was some that uh were not on my list because cuz I never seen them I haven't seen
them yet and there's some that you haven't seen or some that you didn't remember while you're making the list
and uh so it's not fair to make this complete list so we're going to have your list my list and and a bunch of
honorable mentions yeah so if you are listening at work we want you to encourage you to join in the Halloween
party with us put a little vodka or a little whiskey in your coffee or something and just a tiny bit Yeah and
stop working just get like a pad of paper and a pen and write down all these true crime documentaries how about you
pull a George castanza and get underneath your desk and just relax a little bit Yeah pull out your little
alarm clock enjoy yourself make a little bed sit back and relax all right without
further Ado how about we do our top 10 list all right but let's start with the uh some honorable mentions so this this
is this is a great show cuz one through our social media Twitter Facebook Instagram all that stuff if we missed a
document please let us know about it oh I obviously we can't list all of them we're just kind of going over some of
our favorites but please let us know about some one that we might have missed because I mean this is how sometimes we
get um involved into a case as we watch a documentary or through a recommendation uh somebody says check
out this documentary on Netflix or whatever and then we do a two-part or like last week this is what happened
with the uh Johnny gsh case if you haven't listened to part one and part two just stop this one well finish this
one and then go back and make sure you listen to both of those those are great episodes I think do you have any
honorable mentions for us Captain yeah hold on where where are my notes uh the first one which we you hear in the
trailer this one I find to be pretty interesting the Jinx yes of course that was a widely popular one that HBO
covered not too long ago regarding Robert Durst and did he kill them all you know is what it left us all asking
and yeah this is this is where the documentaries are going to be I believe in the future going to play a bigger
part in the actual case itself I mean most of the time like and you'll see this throughout the list a lot of times
these documentarians get involved and because of that and because of the hype and because of the public pressure you
actually get some results that that you wouldn't have got before and in in this uh in this documentary famously he's
he's wired for uh sound well we got to try not to uh we want we got to watch out for the spoilers The the well I'm
the king of the spoilers uh anyways it's an interesting documentary and if you haven't checked that out the gist of it
is this I mean we have this guy who's he's he's raised in a wealthy family and he he is somewhat successful himself uh
their familyes involved in some kind of real state in New York and but throughout his life people around him
keep dying um and you know you got to figure out the Jinx that's why it's called the Jinx is this some kind of
curse is this a curse that he carries with him or the people around him are cursed uh or does he have a hand in this
so uh check out the Jinx that's a good honorable mention we also have uh Cocaine Cowboys yeah I have I've only
seen clips of Cocaine Cowboys but I've heard good things saw I saw the first one I I think this came out in 2006 this
was about the Miami drug wars from the ' 7s and the'80s and I believe that they did a a followup a Cocaine Cowboys 2 but
I've not seen that one uh and the one that I have not watched yet and it's been on my list to watch for a long time
is the staircase I have heard a lot of things I've heard a lot of good things but to give it credibility I've seen it
and it's it's a really good one uh there's the the situation is this so there's this um there's this gentleman
um well you can if he's a gentleman or not uh he's a retired uh military and I I do want to point out we're going to
talk about each one of these documentaries a little briefly that way you can decide which ones you want to
watch uh but however we are going to go off of memory because obviously we didn't have time to sit down and watch
10 or 12 documentaries just to tell you all about them so this gentleman he was in a retired military uh I believe he
may have served in Vietnam and he became an author he wrote something you know wrote about some of his War Stories and
he had a wife that that dies accidental death on the stairway but it's they're trying to figure out was this an
accidental death or was this a murder so right um yeah I mean I've just heard a lot of good things and uh it's like I
said it's been on my radar to check out for a while I think that was an eight parter and I want to say that may have
been uh like a Sundance Film Festival some kind of Award winner that that's the problem is some sometimes these
documentaries are so long that it's like people go listeners will say hey have you checked this out yet I go no and
they go well it's only eight parts it's like well but we got to work on a show for next week yeah yeah but for the for
everybody out there a lot of these are easy to kind of binge through you know um I think I watched the staircase even
though it's eight parts I think I watched it in two nights uh we also got um into the abyss and Central Park 5
yeah so Central Park 5 is about an old case from Central Park New York um and that was you know years ago there was
something with the teenagers um and there was they were kind of rioting um Loosely rioting and terrorizing citizens
in Central Park MH and a a woman uh I believe she was jogging uh and she was attacked or or raped by this group of
teenagers but it's it's been speculated over the years are they innocent or did they actually commit this crime so
that's that's a good one and into the abyss as well is a good one and that is about a um uh the after effects of of a
person having committed crime and uh the the prison sentence and in life in prison afterward all right let's get
into our top 10 list starting with number one no of course that's not how you do these things starting with number
10 mhm what's your number 10 number 10 I have cropsy have you seen cropsy yes I now I haven't seen it all I've seen
parts of it uh because I feel like I missed something like I started it then I started again but I think I missed
about 15 20 minutes okay but did cropsy make see here's the interesting thing here Captain is we've not fully reviewed
each other's list so we may have some on on your top 10 in mine as well so as we
go through these you you mention if if that made your list as well did cropsy make it somewhere in your yes it made my
list a little higher um who what you give it well I'm not going to give that away
right now we we'll go your top 10 my top 10 leave us in suspense I love it yeah so anyways it got uh
90% uh on Roden Tomatoes 62% from the audience so kind of a drop off there so 90% from the critics 62 from the
audience yeah so critics loved it the half the audience loved it I loved it I was in that half that loved it uh this
was this was story about uh well we have Joshua Zeman who grew up in Staten Island he is the uh documentarian that
he did cropsy and he's done a couple others um he grew up on Staten Island and he had always heard this story about
cropsy and well what was cropsy well cropsy was the last name or the name given to a maniac who had escaped from a
uh mental hospital and he was out snatching kids off the street and killing them and Josh grows up and he
learns that you know actually when he was a child or when he was a teenager there was a girl taken from his
neighborhood so this as he grows up and he realized that there was a man named Andre Rand uh who had actually been on
trial for killing a couple of kids and what Josh wanted to figure out was kind of the old chicken or the egg scenario
you know what came first was it was it the legend of cropsy that came first or was it uh Andre ran who who was the you
know the real life monster yeah and I think a lot of times with uh documentaries for me at least it's you
like the idea of the story maybe not so much you know the the filming of it the soundtrack and all those stuff they play
A Part mhm but I think it's really more the idea uh or the case itself if you whether or not you like the documentary
yeah and it's neat too when there's somebody that's from the area can tell you stuff about the area that you would
not have known that that some other guy or girl couldn't have just walked in there uh and and presented it in that
way so check out cropsy what was number 10 for you Captain uh capturing the fredman's okay this was done in
2003 and riding tomato rating of uh 97% and 89% it's rated R the running time is 107 minutes and what's fascinating to
me is I I believe that this documentary is done by one of the older Sons uh it's
basically this documentary about this the the dad and the youngest son get charged with these heinous crimes and
then it's like going through the whole scenario it's fascinating what I find about it is it's it's very unnerving
it's like once you see this documentary you can't unsee it okay um but I just just remember I you know was studying
jazz in college and I had this guy that uh would just come into every rehearsal just going on some rant about whatever
and he was ranting about this documentary he just watched and I just remember like writing it on my arm like
I need to find this documentary so it it was fascinating if you haven't seen it capturing the freed mens is a definite
uh one that I think you should check out I have not I'm going to go ahead and jot
that down on my arm to make sure that I watch that uh number nine for me I have the
impostor yeah this is this really good uh film good documentary this is shot really well mhm uh it's very cinematic
they actually reenact a lot of events using the actual characters from real life so they'll take scenes that happen
that don't they don't have footage for and they reenact them using the actual people and this has a lot of twist and
turns in it when just you know you think you're heading down One path and vo they
take you down another way and then voo they take you another Direction so uh this was the impostor this was the story
of Nicholas Barkley he was barlay he was a a a young boy that was has gone missing um and they've not found him but
then three years later they think that they found him in Spain um and this this person comes forward that's about three
years older and they start talking to him and he's reunited with the family and I'll just let you I'll let the the
the listeners check it out from there we don't want to go to yeah the Imposter was done uh 2012 it's been making a a
big buzz because it's on Netflix now you can check it out on Netflix 95% on Rotten Tomato 78 from the uh from the
audience rated R and the running time is 95 minutes I'll tell you what this probably one of the most recommended
ones that I as far as people recommending uh True Crime documentary to me like every couple months
somebody's like oh have you seen the Imposter oh you have to see the Imposter and yeah yeah I I think it's definitely
it's uh it's definitely worth checking out if you haven't done so already number nine for me is Amanda Knox which
was done in 2016 had a big buzz because it was Netflix I believe a next Netflix original I'm not don't quote me on that
well it's on Netflix yeah it's on Netflix now uh no R uh rating on this one run time is 92 minutes uh
89% and 76% on Rotten Tomatoes I like this visually it's just beautiful tons of scenes and this is a case that has been
recommended to us a bunch cover aanda Knox cover Mana Knox is a case that I'm not really familiar with this is one of
those cases you know Anderson Cooper um Nancy Grace a lot of people when this case blew up up when it did
tons of news coverage those to me cases like that um Amanda Knox um a million other ones
OJ when they become this like Pulp culture nonsense to me I normally start T tuning out so I didn't know much about
the case so for me it was it was a great documentary to watch I have a really good understanding of the case now I
think and also when people suggest these cases after watching this document documentary I don't feel like I have
much to bring to the conversation do you find that you that you end up having a better experience when you have no idea
about the case and then you sit down and watch a documentary or do you find that
it's a better experience to be to know of a case and be excited that there's finally a documentary about it uh I
think for me it's just not knowing anything and then when you go in you know then you start learning but what
you will learn through time and time again uh there's always holes in the story and look they're putting together
an hour and a half documentary on this uh on some kind of crime just like our shows people will constantly say to us
oh you missed this part or you missed this thing well we're putting together our our show on a case I mean we are
going to miss some things yeah yeah sometimes there's a lot more to cover than just one hour uh and we do have to
skip over some some of the smaller details yeah so number for me is the Manda Knox I think it's you know
visually uh they did a great job and like I said I have a better clear understanding of the case so number
eight for me would be um the case of John Ben Ramsay this is the three-part miniseries that was done by CBS I
believe uh This was done in 2016 this was just uh recently and very recently and not only within like the
last what six weeks or two months maybe and uh this was kind of funny because you and I had recommended this to each
other almost simultaneously you know I said oh there's some new John Benet stuff coming out and you said oh you got
to watch you got to watch this one that and neither of us had watched it before recommending it to the other and as far
as cases Go I mean if somebody asked me to do my top five cases or even top three cases of all time cases that I've
looked into over and over and over and over again uh this would be one John Ramsey case has always really uh you
know baffled me you have some really interesting characters in this many series you have um Henry Lee which is
has some connections with the OJ case yeah Henry Lee is the um he's been involved in a lot of the forensics as
far as uh physical evidence goes and and how a crime could take place in the movements of the people and why there's
blood here and not blood there uh sure if you've had to have seen Henry Lee before yeah I think the thing about this
uh miniseries or documentary uh I mean 20% on Rotten Tomatoes 16% with the audience so it's very low I don't know
if that's because they just don't believe the theory that they came up with but I thought what was bold was
this it's this panel of people you know experts panel of experts they come up with this Theory which is not original
Theory but they add a lot of details to it and then they make some pretty um damning claims so much so that they're
now lawsuits if you have not seen this I would recommend this for sure yeah it didn't make my list but I loved it and
it didn't it you know sometimes when you watch something on TV and it's a three-parter like such as this you kind
of forget that it's actually a documentary you know and well that's my thing is I kept on thinking well it was
a it was a minseries it was a TV show technically a TV series should it make the list but it is by definition a True
Crime documentary I think you picked a good one uh number eight for me was uh the very famous ever popular uh making a
murderer yes which I still have not seen which is the Steven Wright case and and
I'm sure there's people sitting in their garage at home booing you right now but
you don't need you don't need to boo the captain because uh you know like we said
he's seen some that I've not uh this one I like about this and I've also listened
to a lot of podcasts about the case and and here's the thing for me this I think
it was uh cinematically it was well done um it it looked good uh the music was great
you know the way that they put everything together it's kind of a a collage you know uh and and I I found it
extremely entertaining I kind of begrudgingly liked it because I disagree with uh with their Theory um and it it
made me put off watching it for quite some time but I did enjoy watching this one because I thought it was so well
done uh it's a little skewed in my opinion but um this is still on my list to get to I
mean I mean uh we started a true crime podcast I don't know if you know about this uh True Crime garage and the
biggest True Crime podcast probably of all time is Cal and it took me at least a year or so to dive into
cereal which which was bad for me I mean it took weeks off my life of researching
the case over and over so that's probably proba one of the reasons why I've stayed away from that documentary
but I probably should watch it making a murder on Rotten Tomatoes will get 98% by the critics and 95% by the audience
of course this came out in 2015 and they are making a second uh go around of this
yeah second season of making a murderer again yeah this is Technic technically classified as a a TV show and not a
documentary but as we all know in the True Crime world it's a documentary yeah we're very loose about the rules here in
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cheers how about another October Fest Captain because you know what these things expire uh as soon as as soon as
it turns November so you have to drink them all up before the end of October it's the last night happy Halloween
that's how it works that's how it works we have like three hours until my Cadillac turns into a pumpkin all right
all right so what number are we on we're number seven we're at seven sir go I'll
start with mine mine was the impostor so I had it a little higher than yours um again we don't really need to talk about
we already talked about it so that's my number seven your number seven sir is me
I had an old one this is a oldie but a goodie it's called The Iceman tapes Confessions of a mafia Hitman and uh on
Rotten Tomatoes it got 84% by the audience uh this one came out like in the don't quote me on this I want to say
early 90s uh but uh this one I saw on cable when I was younger and and it was like very eye openening to me because
this guy was a true true Psychopathic killer in every sense of the word it's it's about uh Richard
klinsky um and that fast after all those October fast yeah let's let's not say it
again uh but he was a worked for the mafia as a Hitman and he offed sometimes he just offed people that he didn't like
uh but it it was it was crazy to me because when I was younger I always thought that you know you had serial
killers and I understood that there was a mafia out there but I saw this when I was probably 11 or 12 years old old and
I was like I was like oh my goodness there's this guy that that's his job he's he he just has no problem killing
people like lots of people maybe he turned his hobby into a living maybe that's what it was could be he's a I
mean he's that's why he's the icean he is cold he's a coldblooded killer yeah I've seen this before and I've actually
listened to a bunch of interviews I believe they had some stuff on Coast to Coast on this back in my days of
traveling around and listening to Coast to Coast at night I believe they talked about the Iceman before but I believe
I've seen this uh I didn't have it on my list but again like you said it's this weird thing where it's like sometimes I
mean it is a crime it is a true crime uh I it didn't register in my brain but it
it's definitely I'd definitely recommend it as well so let's get to my number six
another one that we don't have to talk about CU we already did cropsy I I you know like I said to me it was just the
idea of you know a small town boy here's some rumors is there some truth to it and dives into it a little bit of
armchair detective type stuff that I just like the whole premise of the whole thing and if you have not seen cropsy it
is on Netflix so go check out uh Netflix with the cropsy all right your number six is the devil and the death penalty
this is a um this is an interesting one this is about uh Roy Norris and Lawrence
Baker uh they were known as the toolbox Killers uh they were serial killers in the 70s these were some of the worst of
the worst why do they call them to toolbox Killers well because they they would travel around in a van and they
would abduct these teenage girls and they would torture them using things in from their toolbox okay I shouldn't have
asked you should not have asked because yeah you're you're stuck thinking about that for a while but beer is tasting
great now um but the other part of this you know it it's just as much about the two killers as as the kind of the failed
death penalty in California you know these guys have been on death row for so long I think now forgive me because it's
been a few years since I've watched it I'm not certain I think Norris might have passed away due to like natural
causes or something like that while he was but I know Baker is still on death row to this day and he was like
convicted these crimes took place in the 70s uh and all that tax money to keep him alive and all that tax money to all
the um the legal processes they have to go to through the appeals and everything
and I think that when this you know the the guy that created this documentary he
grew up somewhere where in the area and he had returned to his hometown and he kind of like started asking people about
oh do you remember Lawrence paker and he just assumed he would have been executed
by then right and it it blew his top to figure out that they've not killed the guy yet the state the state that I live
in that could that condemned him to death has not killed him yet and we're talking about I think at the time when
this came out there was like s or 800 people in California in the state of California still on death row for for
crimes they've committed a long time ago yeah uh I have not seen this documentary
so it being so high on your list is something I definitely want to check out it's a lesser known one all right so
number five for me uh I think that's where we're at this beer is getting in the way of me keeping
track uh I have who took Johnny which we covered the John gosh case uh last week
a two-parter I was surprised to find out that this was uh done in 2013 it was 2013 yeah I mean it's it's seen kind of
a resurgent with it being on Netflix but unless that's a typo uh this you know basically this kind of set around for 3
years but now it's getting some buzz like I said we did a two-parter on that it doesn't have a run and tomato meter
like overall I believe it's just an audience that's 84% this is pretty short this is uh 76
minutes so you can you can kind of dive into this uh the reason why I like this one so much
is It's Kind here's what's tough did I enjoy watching it I don't know I then now I know that sounds do that
ridiculous go ahead but it's like I immediately watched it and immediately started diving into the Rabbit Hole oh
see I see so it's like did I love the documentary I don't know like the story didn't end for you when the documentary
was over you immediately into Sherlock Holmes mode and like Googling things and look trolling the internet I had a
three-hour long conversation about this case last night on the phone it's like it just keeps going and going and
there's there's so much that the documentary actually misses uh weird things again the documentary is 76
minutes we did the two-parter on it there's a lot of weird stuff to talk about and even in our two-parter we
missed some weird little things that happen whether they're true or not I don't know but we we miss bringing those
up yeah you know but uh I think it's such a fascinating case and if you haven't heard of the case it's a great
way to dive into it I have it a little higher on my list it did make my list as well but one of my favorite things to do
I don't watch a lot of TV or a lot of movies but but one of my favorite oddly enough even though it's one of my
favorite things to do I enjoy watching things with other people because I like to get their perspective afterwards I
like to have the little conversations afterwards and so I asked somebody to watch this documentary with me who took
Johnny and I was a little worried because when you when you sit down and you're interested in something and you
know you're excited to watch it right you want the other person to have a pleasurable experience as well and you
know me well not me I want to watch something and I want somebody to be bored out of their mind well get up and
leave leave but leave me the popcorn right go go get me a sandwich while you're bored that's all I'm that's all
that's that's what you want out of life no no I'm just Ming but what I want is the other person to be entertained and
of course I was a little worried because you know me big True Crime dork I knew I
was going to be entertained and I asked this person to watch it with me dork and
True Crime dork at some point like halfway through I'm the kind of person I can get up from a movie or from a
documentary as long as I keep an ear out and can hear what's going on I don't mind walking away from the screen for a
second right I went to the fridge to grab an October Fest and in the process I stepped in front of the the screen
yeah how dare I I the the other person was so into it I got I I kind of got a little got a little yell there they're
like hey hey come on door move out of the way yeah they should have hit you no no uh it's a it's a good film I
definitely uh check that out what is your number five my number five is dear Zachary a letter
to a son about his father this came out in 2008 I watched it on vacation a year or so ago what a nice thing to watch
crime two crime the the the sun went down and I decided hey what a good night to pop some popcorn and and have a
couple beers and True Crime it up uh it was 2008 True Crime and chill I think they call that running time is about I
think it's 95 minutes and this got a Critic rating on rot rotten tomatoes of 94% and an audience rating of 96% so the
audience was was even it better uh than the critics here now this one is a I'm not going to lie to you Captain it's
very entertaining extremely entertaining but it's also it's probably the saddest
one on my list uh this one I can't remember if I choked up I can't remember if there was a tear rolling down the
cheek uh but there was definitely the old lump in the throat was getting me a few times and this is about a a a guy
that grew up uh with with another guy and they were friends okay good friends the one guy goes on to be involved in in
Hollywood or in films somehow yeah so when he's growing up he's always he's always behind the camera you know and
he's asking his friends to be you know act out a skit for us do something funny so very Dawson's Creek yeah he's always
he's always interviewing or filming his friends doing things and one of his friends grows up to he's unfortunately
becomes a murder victim and they have a lot of old footage of this of this guy I
don't have his name in front of me but he has a son and his name is Zachary and so as an adult he wanted the young son
to know his father and so he started piecing together uh things that he had filmed about his father as well as
documenting the crime itself um and the the thing that one it's I mean it's interesting uh not I wouldn't say as
much from a true crime perspective uh just from a documentary perspective it's it's extremely entertaining and the
victim in this crime is he I mean he could have been I think he could have been a movie star he had a great
personality he he was very Charming he was naturally funny like the captain yeah he was good he was just great on
camera so I recommend dear Zachary a letter to a son about his father all right let's get to number four let's
start with your number four my number four was one that you had already mentioned who took Johnny all right so
you had it one one spot higher than me yep uh so definitely check that out again like we said somewhat of a general
consensus there you have it five five I have at four yeah and I think you know as people are yelling and screaming oh
my God that shouldn't be 10 or right mhm the thing is is the list I mean if I woke up tomorrow the list would change
tomorrow the list is going to change 6 months from from now I mean as far as like it's always like when you just look
back on it and so when when I was going over my list I kept on thinking like what was the
anticipation what did I feel right afterwards and that's kind of hard to remember uh again I have it so high and
I couldn't even tell you if I liked the documentary I just dove into the case so
hard well for me my top three were pretty set in stone like I it was easy for me to write down my top three and
after that I knew of others that I that I loved right but but they're like you said they're almost interchangeable with
one another if I you know a week from now they could you could flip my my number 10 cropsy with number four who
took Johnny I was actually surprised by my number my top three I surprised myself again leaving us in Spence in
suspense okay so number four for me is uh finding Emma Philip off which another case that we covered uh this is a case
that I recommended uh we get listener you know listeners will uh recommend cases to us through social media and the
website and stuff like that you can also give us a f star rating on iTunes and and leave us a little recommended case
for us there but there are times that you know you'll present a case to me hey I I know of this case it's really
interesting let's talk about it uh this is one that I actually um brought to the
table um and and it was actually on a list like this master list of one of my friends said hey here are some
interesting cases and then I also found it again it was on like uh mysterious disappearance cases again if you haven't
listened to our episodes on that go do so but documentary I don't know if this is a documentary or not it's by Fifth
Estate I watch it on YouTube that's the only way I know how to watch it um it's like 45 minutes it's pretty it's almost
like a DAT Line special um I couldn't find any uh raining uh rankings or ratings on it so um but again it was one
of those things as I'm watching it quickly wanted to start diving into the case and uh it's one of you know one of
a case that still fascinates me today and and one of those things where if I see anything posted about this case I
immediately start you know clicking forward and trying to check out still baffled by it so that's my number four
uh number three well I'll start with mine sure okay I have west of Memphis this was done in
2012 um 96% on Rotten Tomatoes 87 that's the audience uh it's rated R uh run time is
about an hour and or 146 minutes now this is a film about uh the West Memphis 3 and to me it's part two of theous
famous documentaries M the The Paradise Lost to me it's just the fourth installment gotcha um but is it is done
very differently uh Daman EOL and and some of the other members of the West Memphis 3 are actually involved
in the production of this and their producers of the case so there is definitely an argument that the opinion
of this is uh a skewed but like I said um that I was reading some reviews on it the guys said it's you know it it wasn't
watching a film it was kind of just more like watching a TV show um that was his
opinion I could see that I thought it was good I thought it was done nice but again there's some skew viewpoints you
know but it's just such a fascinating case to me that to me it's the it's the part four you know after the trilogy it
did it did not make my list uh and not because it wasn't good I mean it it's just you can't you wouldn't allow me to
squeeze uh 13 documentaries into a top 10 list and rightfully so well let me tell the viewers what happened right so
we we we decided that we we knew about a month back this was your idea you said hey let's give the listeners two
episodes in h for Halloween so we had cases lined up and then we started talking about this who took you know
Johnny gosh case because of the documentary and then we kind of moov some things
around so we were supposed to we were going to release it the Halloween special on the Monday but we decided
well we'll do John gosh finish up John gosh right and then we had a producer friend of ours say uh you should have
did your Halloween episode on on on Monday and then did part two on Wednesday I thought one that's a cruel
joke cuz you get you oh you're waiting for part two and then you see that we put out a show and it's not part two the
other thing about it too is anytime that we're diving into a case you got to really stay focused on that case and a
lot of times a lot of my friends will tell me your your documentary ass is what they say because they'll say check
out this and I say I can't yeah and it's and it's not because I didn't want to my
my my buddy told me to check out who took Johnny for weeks but I couldn't we're on cases we're on to the next case
and sometimes if you watch this documentary and you go down a rabbit hole it's going to affect the episode
for next week so um anyways I'm losing my train of thought you you just you were talking about what had
happened we talked we set this up about a month ago that we were going to come up with a top 10 list okay yeah and so
the thing was we said we're going to do a top 10 True Crime documentary list top
10 yeah so then Nick tells me text me over the weekend or whatever I sent you my documentary list yeah top 15 top 15
I'm like we said top 10 top 10 I couldn't stop I started writing the list and I was like oh this one this one cuz
when you get to 10 and you're like oh that's the final part of the list but I got like three other things you know
four or five other things well we get ask a lot what documentaries we like we get ask a lot what our opinions of those
documentaries so we just thought it would be kind of a fun thing to do and then we wouldn't have to dive into a
case and uh you know for Halloween and stuff give a little break from the the goriness that we have to deal with well
and my quick take on the west of Memphis documentary was I like I said it didn't
make my top 10 list but I liked it a lot and you're exactly right the fourth installment that's the that's the best
way to describe it I don't know that we really need to tell a whole lot of people about this one I assume it's been
watched by the masses um but for me my first takeaway is it's kind of a more updated bigger budgeted version of The
Paradise Lost Trilogy yeah it doesn't have the same charm I don't think so what what's your number three my number
three came out in 2014 and it's called killer Legends have you heard of this one uh this is done by the same guy that
did cropsy yeah cropsy yeah I'm a big fan of Joshua Zan and uh this came out in 2014 killer Legends it's uh 85
minutes long audience score only 50% which is very surprising to me you said Zan yeah yeah I think he needs to drop a
little bit of money into the beer fund cuz we're promoting all his movies on our show well just drop a little money
into the beer well I actually I spoke with him about uh a couple of his documentaries and one that he has coming
out uh he has a show coming out called The Killing season which will be on A&E and it starts November 12 uh but I
wanted to get his take on some of his documentaries specifically you know cropsy and killer Legends and and killer
Legends uh I filled out this list before I knew I was going to talk to him uh and
after I saw my list I thought well you know I I should I should ask him about uh some of his his documentaries and he
you know this one is Great Captain because I tell you why you grow up and you hear about all these different urban
legends you know there's the we spoke about when we covered the uh Phantom killer you know the the man with the
hook you know the hook hand guy uh we also talked about uh you um what what's famous right now in in the news we have
these clown sightings right right that's a weird thing right with all these clowns that are scaring children or
they're in Parks or they're in the woods and they're scaring people so what Joshua did was he set out to to explore
these different urban legends and he wanted to see if there was any truth to you know was there a crime that happened
somewhere a long time ago and at some point the the real life story manifests itself into this urban legend right
right and kind of like with cropsy I mean similar thought yeah and but it's a different urban legend he covers on this
one yeah he's able to track some things back like you know the the the poison Halloween candy or razor blades in the
Halloween candy razor blades he was able to to to track that back to a case that
took place in Texas uh the old uh babysitter you know the blade the babysitters watching the kids and she
gets a strange call and oh the the Call's coming from inside the house you remember that urban legend he traces
that back to some real life crimes when I was a banker uh I had this lady that would come into the bank all the time
little old lady she maybe like 4 foot five and she had a pink walker and uh she always well I can't I'm not going to
say my she but she called me m the Edwood okay the Atwood and I go I couldn't understand what she was saying
ever but she told me one time she go oh you have a nice trick or treat and and watch out for the ra the blade and the
candy that's strange that she called it at word cuz you're last you're Captain Jones I even Captain Rogers Captain
Rogers Jones but the thing was is so every time I'd see her all I could think was you got watch out for that the ra of
blades in the candy anyways I hope Ruthie is doing okay out there all right where we at I just gave my number three
killer Legends okay and that one's on that one's on Netflix as well I have not I'm going to write that down on my arm
you're going to love that one that one's cuz you're kind of cons you you're into
conspiracy theories conspiracy theory Jones you you love the rabbit hole traveling and this is Rogers this is a
very uh this is very Captain is all right so let's do your number two okay cuz this is another one that I want to
check out that I have not seen your number three and number two right when I saw your list uh I actually wrote These
down cuz I thought if they're so high on your list and I haven't seen these I'd probably enjoy them my number two came
out in 2004 and it's called e life and death of a serial killer this is about eileene waros uh she was a female serial
killer in Florida she's best known as Monster right yeah they made the the theatrical version of her life was was
monster with Charlie's Theon yeah um and this this one is incredible and I can't
remember the the guy's name but you'll see him in the film and you'll recognize him he's done a bunch of documentaries
and Ken Burns no it's not him he he went and did Jazz and he did baseball and then he went right to True Crime docks I
believe eileene waros killed six men according to the court system and uh this is filmed after she's in prison
she's on death row in Florida and but there's it's crazy because there's all kinds of drama that's not involved with
her crimes there are people that are trying to get close to her because she is be she's become famous right because
she's a serial killer and there's all these people that want to make movies and write books about her I mean they
the people came out of the woodwork and they were just throwing money around like there's no tomorrow and she had a a
a def you know she had an attorney who was probably taking money from different people to sell her story she had
somebody a friend that that U that she didn't know until she was on death row who adopted her um and she had a she she
had a friend that adopt her yeah you can you can be legally adopted in some states even if you're an adult um well
the captain is off if you want to adopt the captain just uh Rite into us a contact page at true Crim garage.com but
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Captain Roger Jones so check out ien life and death of a serial killer yeah now what did you think of the movie
Monster did you enjoy that I did I liked the movie monster but this uh this is this for me is I mean it it was tough uh
this by far you know this is a great number two uh and it's it's a documentary that I've watched a few
times it's the kind of it's the kind of movie or film that if you turn on the TV
if you're flipping through the channels and you see it you kind of have to you just stop and you end up watching it
again so I don't know how many times I've watched half of the the documentary or the whole thing what was number two
for the captain one that did not make your list um a soaked and bleach again maybe because I I I do like the
conspiracy side of things M um this was done in 2015 uh I this is what's so weird so uh
the Rotten Tomato Meter is at 30% unless I wrote and unless I wrote that down wrong but it says 30% and
77% from the audience ience so a big jump um this is not rated um run time is about 90 minutes now basically What's
Happening Here is Courtney Love a couple days before Kurt Cobain's uh body is found uh she hires a private detective
and one of the things I really like about this story is it he answers the phone on on a holiday and he's riding
the stuff down and he doesn't know who Kurt Cobain is it was Easter I think he answers the phone on Easter Sunday yeah
but it's like he doesn't know who he is now and this is uh you know the reason why I I enjoy that part
that he doesn't know who well first of all he doesn't know who he is he probably the most famous rocker at the
time one of the biggest icons you know that generation's John lennen you know a lot of people are just idolizing this
guy doesn't know who he is and having a father you know that was in law enforcement and stuff and and didn't
know who celebrities were or famous musicians people that were making a mark on on people so the fact that he didn't
know who he was and then it became the biggest thing in this guy's life this guy he's never heard of and and the
other thing that I really like about this okay I don't want to try to sell too much on why it should be number two
but there was a lot of hype and I would constantly see this in YouTube feeds for
years the they were talking about the making of this this documentary I mean years beforehand I knew this movie was
coming out and so as it got closer and there was actually a definitive date because like for a year and a half
beforehand there was no definitive date and uh when it was coming out I believe I paid for it on pay-per-view but I had
some friends that were really interested in checking this out and the the other thing I love about this is he takes all
these tapes as he's hired by Courtney Love he takes the you know they have phone conversation he records them and
then they reenact the tapes now I was listening to Joe Joe Rogan actually talk about this
and he said well I don't know if you can believe it or not they have actors doing
whatever and they're reenacting um little scenes no they're not reenacting the scenes those are
actual tape recordings of the scenes and then there's actors portraying those characters and there are some scenes
that are reenacted but for the most part you're actually getting to see this footage or
to hear this audio footage now the problem is is there's you know hundreds and hundreds
of hours of audio tapes and they're just they're picking and choosing what you get listen to but I wasn't necessarily a
huge Nirvana fan by any means um I thought you there were good ban and everything but it wasn't like you know
uh he was like the second coming of Christ for me or anything or Lenin you mean and he wasn't well and he wasn't
the second coming of of Lenin Lenin for me um but I've just always been but I don't know be I think once people
started and I think when it happened when I was a kid I didn't understand like okay he killed himself and there
was some rumors that maybe she was involved but I didn't really care or look into it
too much but for some reason this uh soaked and bleach was always on my radar and so I was really excited when it came
out uh didn't disappoint me um one of my friends would not shut up during the whole movie they kept on going that's
fake rain it's fake rain uh duh but if I but if I watch scenes back but no even the outside scenes there's outside
scenes that it's like CGI rain right I yeah I could tell yeah but I was like but it wasn't until she started bitching
about it that it like just threw me off and I was like uh I wish they wouldn't had that but uh it's it's definitely an
interesting case and I believe if you just think that he committed suicide it's enough to start making you think oh
possibly possibly it made me second G second guess the whole suicide I'll be honest with you and um part part of it
for me and probably maybe why it gets sometimes these things get a low rating as you said if the if people don't agree
with their with the theory that's being presented yeah um and for me that that was kind of the situation here I thought
it was well put together uh it was entertaining to watch the fascinating part of it to me was just what you said
the tapes of Courtney Love talking and she's this with is some of these recordings are within days of Kurt's
death and so you're getting a um you're getting a very quick reaction ction to to maybe one of the biggest tragedies in
her life and it's well it's authentic and it's interesting to hear if you you know you're you're when you're listening
to her you're trying to decide is she being legit here or am I supposed to be reading between the lines you know is
she is she just putting this on because and sometimes she does sound very guilty
of something uh in on those tapes and other times she just sounds like a grieving Widow but it but it is
definitely interesting it came very close to making my top 10 yeah it's defin definitely if you have a evening
and your and you haven't seen it uh I definitely recommend soaked and bleach that was
2015 uh is that one on Netflix I believe so I don't know see it's weird with the
Netflix cuz I just got Netflix I just got hip to the Netflix and there you know you can search and there's tons of
stuff but I kind of just always just browse what they kind of recommending except for that they had this stupid
kangaroo movie that I like Kangaroo Jack that I didn't oh no here's what happened
what else are you watching that it recommends Kangaroo Jack no no I I I was looking up the documentary called Joo
it's on the famous jazz Bas player it said Joo I hit play and it started playing this Kangaroo Jack which I
stopped within like a minute but it's on my playlist that I played and it recommends me some ridiculous stuff
because of Kangaroo Jack the people at Netflix are having fun with you I keep I've sent them 300 emails can you please
take this off my playlist I was really proud of my playlist I thought it was you know pretty uh I mean other than
like the new girl I'm I'm pretty proud of of the shows that are on it excellent number one have we reached number one
it's time it's time for the number one it's time for number one drum roll hold on I'm not a drummer wait
wait we actually both had the exact same number one here we yeah uh which weird well you know what I don't know that
it's entirely weird I kind of suspected that that this one would be up there pretty high for both of us that it would
fall into the one or two slot for both of us uh but the other the other advantage that this one has is it's a
Trilogy you know it's kind of it's kind of teamed up on ganged up on the other ones you know it's it's one documentary
versus three and one case that's always fascinated us and and every all the listeners know West Memphis 3 it's Star
Wars Trilogy uh well West Memphis 3 has always been one of our favorite cases and uh we discussed it on this show of
course but so the paradise law Trilogy is the number one for the both of us uh and the first one came out in 1996 that
was the um the first one it was the CH Child Murders At Robin Hood Hills uh Revelations was part two which came out
2001 and then Purgatory was the third and final installment in that trilogy and that came out in
2012 right the same year that West Memphis you know west of Memphis west of Memphis came out which you could lump
that together with all this and call that the part four so Paradise Lost uh 100% on rod and tomatoes by critics or
Audience by critics 93% by critics again that's a pretty High number cuz this is
a a case that there's a big division mhm and the funny there's a big division but
it constantly goes back and forth you got constantly have these and look I'm guilty of it too you watch a documentary
and you go they're innocent you watch something else you go they're guilty yeah then you hear something else and
you go they're innocent uh so no no uh raining ranking not ranking raing rating on that and uh just be man it's a really
good Halloween party it's funny too I wish they could see our costumes we dressed up it's just you know but
anyways yeah you're Kangaroo Jack and I'm Batman uh the the the the paradise loss for me man it's it's it's my
favorite I could watch it a 100 times I may have watched some of these close to that uh you know when we did the when we
discussed the case about 3 weeks beforehand I I ventured back and and watched these again uh the first one it
grips you right away like as soon as as soon as you hear the Metallica music in the background uh and and for me there's
a couple of Metallica songs that I cannot hear to this day without immediately my mind going to some of
those images from the Paradise Lost Trilogy yeah and I will say though for for someone that if there's anyone out
there that's not seen these before uh I think the third one was quite a bit less
watched than the first two but if there's anybody that's not seen these before it's
not it's not a lot of Investigation you know what I mean it's it's it's more of you are being introduced to the parents
of the victims you're being introduced to the accused um and it's a lot of their personalities uh especially the
first one you're you're seeing the the initial reaction to a horrible heinous crime and but at the same time you're
wondering are the are these teenagers that are being accused are they are they actually innocent or are they guilty and
and why are they being accused you start asking yourself why at some point well in the little trailer that I made with
the different clips of the documentaries I mean Daman akles says it pretty I think brilliantly is yeah there's a
tragedy there's a horrible tragedy of three kids being murdered the other tragedy if it if if that's the case is
that anybody in this country could be arrested for a crime that they didn't do uh now these guys claim their innocence
again a lot of you got to look at is there evidence this documentary doesn't do that I think the I think west of
Memphis kind of makes it more about evidence and and some other speculations but I think some of it is
um I didn't I don't think I I think I watched maybe parts of one when I was young I didn't watch it in
1996 but when we started going to talk about this case I've always seen a bunch of Clips but to actually sit down and
watch all three of them mhm and I think a lot of it is just nostalgic I mean 1996 I I was roughly uh Daman Eckles and
and and three the West Memphis 3 I was roughly their age you know uh big into Metallica and stuff like that so I think
there's a lot of nostal IC to it uh and I think that's what makes me so interested or fascinated with those
documentaries I'll tell you what I could watch 20 hours of Mark buyers all you know just take away everything from the
case I could sit and watch Mark buers for hours and hours uh but yeah the uh well they're fascinating to watch now
because you know hindsight is 20120 I mean these these three boys get out you know on an Alfred plead but to go back
and watch what happens and then go back and to watch not only um all these parents what they say about these three
boys but how that changes over time I mean and some of those documentaries they're claiming hey I you know I'll be
at your grave you're a you're a son of a [ __ ] you're all these things right but
then years later we know that some of these parents with because of evidence they're on the side of the West Memphis
3 now there's a big c big culture shift you know with because of these documentaries well and with it being
Halloween too we should point out that there is the famous scene with uh Mark buers shooting a pumpkin you know he's
got this big giant pistol and he's standing about 20 feet from it and he's just shooting bullets into a pumpkin
yeah and screaming this is for you the West Memphis 3 yeah and this is for you but the cool thing that the great thing
not only the Metallica music is great but the but the other great thing is it's like grainy and gritty and doesn't
look like overly produced it it's not that Hollywood right it's not Hollywood at all and I the first time I watched it
I watched it when it was on HBO when I when I was younger and it it blew my mind I couldn't stop watching it and it
it it felt like the first uh reality TV thing that that I had seen you know what
I mean the first one that had sucked me in like that and I couldn't quit watching it but yeah granny gritty it's
uh the best yeah like you said there's not going to be tons of information about the case I I really argue that if
you watch it like once I did the research for our episode on the case and then I watched it I kept on thinking
there's no information there's about 10 minutes of evidence in each one of the three movies right so it's kind of
confusing it's not uh like with um the Amanda Knox case and and some of the other cases that really kind of or the
case of John Benet Ramsay those documentaries really lay out a solid timeline Some solid evidence
what is what you could argue as far as what evidence is um and what is speculation uh these documentaries don't
do that you know so uh but I think they're fascinating and I and I I think even a year from now if you ask me what
my favorite I think that'd probably be always maybe number one yeah for me because it was one one of the first ones
you know the first ones that really um brought brought this subject to my attention well and while we're on this
subject I'm same for me it's still going to be my number one for for maybe forever and but uh recommended reading
we can't do recommended reading after we talk about all these documentaries you should watch so for this week we're
going to do recommended viewing go to our website and you can we we're going to have the uh Paradise Lost Trilogy
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Amazon and they just give us a little Kickback on the website so again thanks I hope everybody enjoyed the top 10 list
do we want to run them down real quick yeah go ahead all right so mine is capturing the
fredman's uh Amanda Knox number nine number eight is the case of J Ramsay number seven is impostor number six is
cropsy uh number five is who took Johnny number four is finding Emma Philip off by F the state number three is west of
Memphis number two is Soaked in Bleach and number one is the Paradise Lost trilogies Captain I enjoyed your list
I'm going to check out uh you had a couple on there that I have not seen I'm going to check those out my list number
10 cropsy number nine impostor number eight making a murderer number seven the Iceman tapes number six the devil and
the death penalty number five dear Zachary number four who took Johnny number three killer Legends number two
Eileen life and death of a serial killer and of course number one is the Paradise
Lost Trilogy I hope everybody had as much fun at our Halloween party as we did and I hope you enjoyed our list if
there's any on there that you've not checked out make sure you check those out uh I do want to give a another thank
you to Joshua Zan for taking time to discuss his documentaries with me and remind you to check out his new show The
Killing season which is about the Long Island serial killer case uh and it's starting on A&E and that takes place it
will start November 12th it's a um it's an eight-part Series so check that out yeah that's going to be really good one
and hopefully maybe we can follow it and do a you know kind of a you know recap like what thought of each episode or
something ex he he told me watch a couple episodes and give him a call back he'd be he he said we're going to have
questions he goes this is going to blow your mind what you're going to see with this case yeah yeah so I'm interested in
it and we got to get back to our Halloween party I know that a little bit later the captain is going to caraoke
the Monster Mash it's been requested it's a mash it's a Monster Mash uh but thanks for listening thanks for telling
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Tonight we are throwing a big Halloween party right in the garage and you are officially invited. Halloween is the perfect time of year for taking in a really great horror film or hearing your friend tell a scary story. The truth is when you have True Crime who needs fiction. Tonight we party but we also discuss our favorite True Crime Documentaries like "Making a Murderer," "The Jinx," and "Who Took Johnny." Join us for drinks and much more but make sure that you come to party!

Cheers, Nic & The Captain

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Brief Summary

Hosts Nick and the Captain share their top true crime documentaries, discussing favorites like "Cropsy" and the "Paradise Lost" trilogy during a Halloween party.

Key points

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True Crime Documentaries Discussion. Hosts discuss their top true crime documentaries.
The Jinx Documentary. A discussion about the documentary 'The Jinx' and its implications.
Amanda Knox Documentary. A visually stunning documentary that provides a deep understanding of the Amanda Knox case.
Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son. An emotional documentary about a father's love for his son after tragedy strikes.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

If I'm guilty, I'm the ultimate figure to fear!

A dramatic statement about guilt and perception.

7:23WatchNov 16, 2023

Tension

40/ 100Low tension

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