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[Music] whoop there it is we are here and you didn't forget your name this time I
didn't I don't know what happened last time it was late at night yeah that's what it was it was a late night
recording I zoned out a bit I had a moment feeling Zony I was just on a space level I know
usually I feel like that's like a very me thing to do but you you were not here with us I was on an ash
level that's scary I I was not I was on a space level I was going to say I don't
think you've ever been on an ash level truly truly don't think I ever have most people haven't that's okay only Ash but
you know what my level here we are and we're going to do something that is um it definitely is true crime but it's
like ancient True Crime oo leave it to you because I've always been really interested in bog bodies and you said
that to me the other day and I said I don't know what that means she said huh I was like are you talking about
cranberry juice um no not really no although uh who likes cranberry juice I think doesn't Drew yeah Drew really
likes cranberry juice I just thought of that although who likes I thought you were like doing a poll really fast hey
guys who likes cranberry juice I also kind of was I was going to be like show of hands do you like cranberry juice he
that boy loves cranberry juice and like not even cranberry juice cocktail like Regina George like cranberry juice
that's a lot for me yeah cranberry juice is is very aggressive to me it's tart very tart yeah I this is so yucka but I
used to drink it when I was constipated when I was little I got constipated a lot when I
was little and my mom would just give me some cranberry juice so now I hate it and it would work apparently yeah oh
that [ __ ] that [ __ ] makes you [ __ ] that shit'll work yeah I can't do a cranberry
juice but you know what uh this isn't about cranberry juice nah this is about bog bodies which are very far off from
cranberry juice although I guess they're a little like um like sour you should their way of their way
of being is very sour look at the face the face they can't I wish you could see the face it's literally Ash is just
making a tart face like my nose is all wrinkled so let's talk I'm sure some of you have probably heard of bog bodies
because they've been around like PE there's been a ton of discoveries in the last like several years of these
especially in northern Europe well [ __ ] uh but they're not like don't feel bad
if you don't know what they are because like it's weird but and like they're not making as big a
deal out of these as I think they should cuz they make a big deal out of like the
randomst [ __ ] but like not the I mean this is pretty random [ __ ] but it's very
random [ __ ] make a big deal of this it's interesting from what you've you've told
me like a little tidbit yeah these are whole ass people yeah that in fact oh sorry I interrupted go ahead oh no I was
going to say that have been preserved for like thousands of years okay I'm glad I let you go because Alena was
looking at like some pictures the other day going through this and there was basically like the remains of somebody
and I thought that they had put a wig on this person I was like did they put a [ __ ] wig on them and Elena said nor
nor yeah that's exactly what I said she said that's his hair and I was like what
and I was like that's a 2000-year-old hair right there so crazy yeah it's wild so let's talk about what bog B what bog
bares what bog bodes are I was in a place of like nor clear and you were like let's go get to some bar bodies I
don't know what's going on okay tomater tomator so we're going to talk about bog
bodies I'm going to tell you what they are how they form what is in a bog that makes these bog bodies stay the way they
are that's my biggest question because my first thought is the bog of Eternal stench from Labyrinth that checks that's
literally when I hear bog of Eternal stench is my next thought I love that you think of that because as we know I
think of cranberry juice but like the two Ocean Spray guys oh yeah whatever happened to them what happened to them I
don't watch cable anymore so maybe they're still there maybe they're still around yeah just standing in the
cranberry bog I bet they are they are cuz bog bodies B bodies preservatives they're B Brothers ancient these are
basically ancient and I mean ancient like from the Iron Age Old like BCE so these are ancient bodies found buried in
Pete marshes and bogs and again like I said in northern Europe mostly okay we're talking people from as long ago as
8,000 BC my brain just like can't even wrap itself around that outrageous and by the way BCE is before
Common Era yes and is a newer convention to date things and one that I like so that's why I'm using it I'm happy for
you thank you a lot of them seem to come from around like I said said the early Iron Age which like wo and I think
that's somewhere around 500 BC to 400 CE which is Common Era okay like this is wildly old we're in the Common Era right
we're in the Common Era right is that well it's it's outrageously old like this is literally like before Common Era
and then basically like after Common Era so we're in the after we're we're currently in the after I would say oh
[ __ ] okay so this but this is 400 so this is way long ago like three steps ago outrageously old is the moral of
this story like these are people who we would only be able to study from things that we find and if we find things it's
like whoa we found this ancient thing from 2,000 years ago like it's always this amazing Discovery but now we've
discovered whole ass people right with their things still on them are there any cool things that like we don't know
about that we do now well the things aren't even what we're looking at here it's more what happened to these people
because a lot of these people died by straight up murder B body bodies I don't know why I keep saying baries bog baries
bog baries I don't know why it feels rat okay but whatever it's not bog bodies it's hard to say yeah these people were
often violently killed huh like they're not just people who died by natural causes old age you know sickness
whatever and then they were buried in these bogs right no they were like ritualistically sacrificed or straight
up just murdered for no ritual it's like some smiley face killer type [ __ ] it's
intense and due to the biological magic of their very unique and specific environments these bogs they're found
completely preserved sometimes with all their hair skin and clothing still intact like I
thought you were done when it was the lady in the lake like I was like oh wow I can't get crazier than that never done
here we go we are always ratcheting it up that huge Notch you are for sure always trying to at least I read a book
called bog bodies uncovered solving Europe's ancient Mystery by Miranda alhouse green I bet you did and it's
real good I'm going to I'm going to tag it in the uh show not show notes if I had seen that on a library shelf I would
have been Elena that is for you that's for my girl I really like she had a very good way of describing everything she
went into like the violence associated with it she covered so many of these bodies cuz there's so many I'm only
going to cover a little handful today are we're going to do like a couple parts I might do a part two Our Lives
yeah talking about more of these bodies because there's just so many interesting
ones but the way that she described and referred to bogs is something I really liked which sounds weird I know but she
described them like this she said bogs were and are special places my asmic and fearsome they hover in the tween space
between land and water they are both and they are neither oh that's an author right like a really beautiful sentence
to me also can we just like take a moment to study the author shouting out the author like check that out author
supporting authors tiny url.com slthe Butcher and the ren the amount of people that now say that to me I'm like yes we
should put that on a shirt I love it you should tattoo that on yourself there you
go just tattoo that word I'll just tattoo it on my hand the link will forever be active uh but yeah that's
just like a really beautiful way of describing a bog yeah it absolutely is is something that is you think of as
like probably stinky and like gross like a bog yeah when I think bog I other than
like my guys in the in the men I also think of swamps yeah just like green bubbly stinky water you know
what I mean like just yuckiness it's so funny though cuz Cranberry Bogs are beautiful that's true but bog of Eternal
stench so that's where we're at Pete is what we're talking about here so Pete bogs now Pete is a mat what what I just
thought you met a man named Pete just Pete bog you were like Pete is what we're talking about here and I was like
well I was not up to speed Then Pete p e a t I'm going to take a seat Pete is a material created by the slow
decomposition of organic matter and is often formed in these bogs the bogs are what I described above and a lot of
things can't really thrive in or around them unless they're very specific to bogs so they're formed when shallow
bodies of water have plants and such that will fall into the bodies of water and because there's a massive lack of
oxygen in these places it will just lay there and decompos very slowly like very
like hundreds and thousands of years basically hanging in a preserved state for quite some time but making the body
of water a bog and making the layers of organic material building up over time and decomposing very slowly become
Pete now sphagnum it's sphagnum it's hard to say sphagnum no you did agree there it is sphagnum moss is actually
one of the big reasons why Pete is is able to preserve and it sounds like I'm saying a man named Pete it does is it's
why Pete is able to preserve bodies and other organic material so well sphagnum lives in bog moss and when the Moss dies
it releases the sphagnum into the surrounding area in the Bog Water it actually turns if there's or an organic
like a person in there or even like an animal body it will turn the skin leathery and kind of brown looking like
it will tan it essentially and any hair will seemingly be dyed a coppery red color Oh I thought that man's just had
like some [ __ ] flow that's cuz it's it does it turns in a beautiful Auburn like coppery auburn color I feel
like it's the red that you look for that I go for like that is my like o I want that red every time I see it I'm like
that's the color R my hair stylist girlies it's like a 734 or like a 743 there you go next time
I go to the hair stylist I'm bringing a picture of a bog and like that's the color I want go offen can you do a
sphagnum color do it but either way it's very interesting so as you'll see any bog body that you will see is a dark
color because they've been tanned and their hair is that fiery coppery auburn color which makes it a little difficult
to tell what their hair color was before that yeah but usually it ends up the more coppery it is the more it was like
light it was in real life like a gray or or a blonde that makes and then is it like a darker copper if they had darker
hair exactly so bog Oaks are the only trees that grow around bogs and the oak that falls into the bog actually also
helps with that preservation and Tanning process as well so it's like a mixture of things that need to come together but
when it does it is like perfect preservation that's crazy isn't it wild just like the [ __ ] that we that happens
that we don't understand science is wild it really is I've always enjoyed science
it's it's so so interesting like I was this was blowing my mind while I was reading it you're blowing my mind I'm
blowing your mind so only when these bodies are discovered and then taken out and exposed to oxygen because while
they're under there they're not getting any oxygen only when they're taken out and the oxygen comes in contact with
them do they really begin to decompose naturally but so many are still preserved today they're able to keep
them in Like Oxygen sealed tanks you know what I mean like they but they have to do it quick like the the transfer
process for these things it's super delicate super fast you don't want to like [ __ ] with this a lot because
they'll start to just fall apart right and they do eventually they will fall apart but we can keep them for as long
as we can now some people believe that a lot of these bodies were placed in the bogs as like a warning almost or some
kind of a punishment a warning to others because some of them would be staked down in the Bog inste like held down in
the Bog and sometimes through their limbs and sometimes while they were alive they would be put in these bogs
and then like Stakes would be run through their arms while they were alive and then they would be left there and
usually they were facing upward so if somebody came to the bog they would just see this pale face of a human dead and
lying Stak down in the Bog [ __ ] a whole bunch of that yeah and they were being
punished because by doing this they were remaining in the in in between place where their body couldn't even decompose
okay so this was a punishment like we're not even going to allow your body to decompose in your soul to leave oh and
if you're stuck in this bog nothing's going to be able to remove your soul for the afterlife you're going to be stuck
here it's like they were creating like man-made Purgatory exactly because bogs have always kind of been looked at as a
place where evil spirits live and dwell and they remain so this would be somewhere this would be somewhere to
place someone you wanted to punish putting them in that dark evil and Frozen in Time place to never fully
freely cross over to the other side sometimes I feel like I'm in a bog yeah don't we all man do you ever feel like
you're in a b there you go forever sometimes and sometimes they would even remove a lot of times actually they
would remove the person's head and they place the head in one part of the BG and
the body in another so they couldn't even come together come together together as one oh I was in a place of
Beatles I was in a place of ghosts as always usually um so yeah so they would do that so sometimes people will find
these heads of bog bodies and sometimes they don't ever find the bodies what it's real spooky okay are you going to
tell me how like the first bog body was found like who was just like swimming in
a bog one day so these I'm going to tell you about a few interesting bog bodies what we can say is that every single bog
body has been found by accident never been I figured yeah nobody's ever gone in search of a bog body that I can find
there's no fish in bog right I don't believe like many things can live in a bog but I'm honestly not positive okay
but either way it's almost always when people are doing Peete cutting which is like removing layers of Pete because we
do use Pete moths for like you know landscaping and [ __ ] yeah I've heard of that you've heard Pete moth I sure have
yeah like people use it for things so people will go and dredge it up like these big bales of Pete essentially and
that's when they find these Pete bodies or bog bodies because they'll find them in between the layers of Pete do they
still use the Pete sometimes sometimes it happens you know gross you know that's why um I actually this is a total
Sidetrack but it's like somewhat in there you are in a place of Ash I am I am uh I was watching a talk the other
night and somebody was talking about it's the who's the guy who does the it was the 90s oh Kevin Kevin he was
talking about how he had out of a bone graft in his mouth and they put a cadav bone in there and then he was worried he
wanted to know who it was from and then he was talking about having a haunted a haunted face yeah I also have a cadaver
bone in my mouth so I have a haunted face too and I never thought about it that's cool so I just wanted to put that
out I have extra bones in my mouth there you go go but yours are just natural not
haunted yeah those are mine yeah they're just hers I'm haunted but by myself my face is haunted so that's fun what if
it's like a really [ __ ] bag human well I'm grateful for their bone okay is all
I can say but either way this Pete M your Peete Moss could be haunted yeah oh absolutely by a b body I don't want any
Pete Moss anymore I want all the Pete Moss that checks like that's awesome I'm going to call my landscaper after this
and be like hi remove the Pete Moss my [ __ ] imaginary landscape there you go hello remove the Pete Moss at
once I want to call someone and say that just call a landscaper just any landscaper we don't have your phone
number on our Client List ma'am this is a Wendy's I don't care remove the Pete M
get it out of here post taste all right so we're going to talk about the Elling woman Okie do she's uh all of these bog
bodies none of them have names they don't you know we can't really tell who they were so they're always named after
the air area in which they were found okay I was going to say that that that makes
sense I was going to say that sounds pretty it does the Elling woman she was found in Denmark in 1938 I want to go
there she's believed to be from 280 BCE during the Iron Age shut up shut up okay
just for like my folks out there what's the Iron Age the Iron Age yeah well according to Google self uh it is a
prehistoric period that followed the the Bronze Age when weapons and tools came to be made of iron which makes sense or
in mythology just for like my interested mythology folks out there the last and worst age of the world a time of
wickedness and oppression W wa so like two very drastic differences there very much sometimes there was iron and
sometimes there was wickedness you know what and there was a lot of wickedness in these bog body situations boom segue
we're talking about the Elling woman and her Discovery was made in I'm going to give this my best shot but H boy some of
these pronunciations was jailed scov doll I believe it bed scub doll by a man named
yenz zacharis who was a farmer um she so he was cutting and digging Pete like everybody was like
everybody's all about the Pete digging luckily this was like kind of it was a good removal process because a lot of
these bog B tend to get either like kind of like cut apart by the Pete digging process
accidentally or when they are removed from the Pete especially like in the 30s in the 50s when this [ __ ] was happening
they didn't know what they were doing they didn't know what the hell this thing was so most of them thought they
were recent murder victims so they would pull them out not knowing that these are
very fragile and very old right but luckily this one had a little bit of a like ease in transfer process so this
farmer he saw this clear body and was like oh [ __ ] this is a human and instead
of fleeing um or as we're going to find out in another case this happens allowing villagers to take pieces of the
human being with them no that happens in another one luckily in this time it didn't happen this guy Zacharias he
immediately called the national museum of Denmark and they were able to remove her properly so so good job yens now it
was later determined that this girl was about 25 years old at the time of her murder oh she was wearing a sheep skin
cloak and a cowhide blanket wrapped around her and had more fabric made from cowhide wrapped around her lower body a
lot of these were wrapped in a lot of layers um there was also a Woolen belt wrapped around her and there was a
leather rope tied around her neck with a slip knot oh [ __ ] yeah do you think that
being um like uh having many layers helped with the preservation too um honestly maybe but to be honest a lot
it's it's kind of 5050 a lot of them are found with a lot of layers but a lot of
them are found just naked with nothing on them and they and actually one of the most preserved bog bodies that we're
going to talk about the tullen man he was completely naked okay so it doesn't so I don't really think it matters but
I'm sure it doesn't hurt um so there was the leather rope tied around her neck with a slip knot and her back was almost
perfectly preserved and it was immediately apparent that she had long hair that had been intricately braided
before she was killed which this would happen sometimes in ritualistic killings they would braid the hair huh yeah
pictures of this you can find and they're amazing this braiding is perfectly preserved it was pleaing back
then exactly and uh it it's preserved like you can see every little bit of that braid like a wig wow it really does
and it's copper her hair is a little darker so I believe her hair must have been darker in life oh okay but it's
wild it's very amazing it looks like it was done yesterday when you look at it I'm going to goo but her front of her
body was a little more deade so it was a little tougher now further testing done
in the 70s in the 1970s told scientists that she definitely had been hanged and that was how she was killed there was a
deep laceration around her neck from the hanging she's believed to have possibly
been used as a sacrifice to the gods by her Village perhaps like a fertility sacrifice could be any number of
sacrificial reasons honestly I'm looking at her hair right now wild amazing insane yeah now the next one I'm going
to talk about is the tullen man and I just mentioned him you did one of the most incredibly preserved of the bog
bodies he was found by two peac cutting Farmers uh May 11th 1950 he was also found in b b jailed scov doll bog in
Denmark you did it uh he was found 12 years after Ellen woming Elling woman in the same bog oh [ __ ] isn't that
interesting that is interesting according because these bodies are in like layers of Pete right so like you
can sometimes miss them or you get pieces of them now according to the book I already mentioned um she said quote as
they worked they suddenly saw in the Pete layer a face so fresh that they could only suppose they had stumbled
upon a recent murder o he is over 2,000 years old what which makes his preservation even more incredibly
impressive scientists believe he was somewhere around 30 to 40 years old when he was killed which 40 years old would
have made him kind of elderly back then yeah like to be honest yeah and it was likely a ritualistic sacrifice he was
found with a braided leather noose wrapped around his neck and he looks like he is sleeping oh literally in a
fetal position and has a very peaceful look on his face where you can see every line and wrinkle like he would just
start breathing in front of you oh he's naked but he's still wearing a little pointed cap and you can see chin hairs
what legitimately they were able to determine his last meal no 2,000 years ago what he ate so um they he ate
porridge a bunch of grains and some bony fish and they said it was about 12 to 24 hours
before he was hanged and then thrown in the Bog bony fish they also think someone may have positioned him maybe it
was like a family member or something like kind of cuz a lot of these bodies are tossed in there a lot of them have
looks of Anguish on their faces still because they were like ritualistically killed most of them I I haven't even
gotten into yet some of the worst ones some of the ones that were tortured and abused before being killed they are bad
and but this guy the Tallen man he is so peaceful looking he is so I'm looking at
him right now and he was found on his side like just sleeping he looks like he was like literally taking a little cat
now yeah it's wild oh wow I'm looking at the whole body Now isn't it incredible oh my God now the next one I'm going to
talk about is the I think it's pronounced the Ed girl I looked at several pron iations for this I believe
it's Edie the girl from Edie is a um is a bog body from the Netherlands she was found May 12th
1897 stop it by two Pete Cutters who were cutting through the Pete in a bog that was just near the village of Edy
when they dredged up the layers of Pete they found her just lying there between the layers of course they freaked the
[ __ ] out and ran away because honestly a lot of people probably would and in the
1800s they were like this is a Damon the devil and they also literally thought it
was the devil because she had a a big lock of FY red hair yeah I actually just saw that so they thought it was the
devil like they thought they had Unleashed it my God but they're like he lives in the ball they're like he's in
the Bog guys but they creeped back and then they just hid her under the Pete again probably because they figured if
they left her there then the demon would stay in the Bog or something I don't know yeah yeah leave the devil in the
Bog but apparently she was dug up again over a week later I think the mayor actually dug her back up he was like
let's see this let's see this Damon in the Bog but she wasn't pulled out of the bog very carefully unfortunately oh no
yes when what they could determine was that she was a 16 maybe 14 to 16-year-old girl and was killed over
2,000 years before she was taken out of the bog in 1897 they used her remaining bones and
also the fact that her wisdom teeth had not erupted or formed roots in her mouth
to determine her approximate age damn isn't it crazy that even back then people had wisdom to yeah wisdom fun
fact I don't have them look at that evolved they estimate she was only about 4 and 1/2 ft tall she was very tiny
stature when she was found like I said she had tons of fiery red hair again it's important to note that the swagnum
gases turn the skin brown hair red but they believe she might have had light auburn hair okay um so maybe like closer
to a strawberry blonde kind like using overtone there you go she had a ton of hair though yeah she looks like Merida
yeah and honestly though the um interestingly the right side of her very long hair had been shorn off oh and they
believe it was shaved off as like a weird punishment maybe yeah like this is a common thing in a lot of the bog
bodies that the hair was shorn before their interment basically yeah it's very weird now also the villagers had come to
the place where she was being taken out of the bog they took several of her teeth locks of her hair and even some of
her bones why yeah they just took him with him what I'm like you guys think this is
a demon and you're like hey let me let me get a piece of that also I hope they all got haunted as [ __ ] to be honest so
weird like you deserve to have an Annabelle situation you dicks hey red hair there you go Annabelle Annabelle
baby now she was also wearing a heavy wool cloak which she still had on her when they found her I want a cloak and
also it appears that she was indeed murdered because there was still a cord made of wool that was wrapped three
times around her neck isn't it wild that like even BCE we were just out here killing people oh so much like why from
the dawn of time has everybody been like kill murder kill always we've always been the worst yeah like what is up with
this speech and this was so it was tied in a slip knot and was likely some kind of belt that they used she also had a
stab wound to her chest and it was near her collar bone or at the base of her throat damn and the wound had been made
by a knife that's like a shitty area too basically going for the heart I would think now her face was actually
reconstructed in 1992 saw that and it was using the body it's incredible to look at Richard Neeve who was the artist
who did it and like he I can't believe that he was able to do that when you look at the bog body or like how the
[ __ ] did you do that yeah that was my instant thought amazing you can see Ed girl and her reconstruction at the dren
Museum in Asen Netherlands we should go we should go now the next one I'm going to talk about is the cloney caveen man
and the old Krogan man okay so two different people two different men got it but discovered in the same vog Okie
do so in in the same year too in 2003 what two bodies were dis CED within a 3 Monon span of time in bogs in CL cloney
Caven County meath and Krogan Hill they were found by Peak Cutters of course which is you know starting to sound like
a pretty high-risk job if risk includes finding ritualistically murdered corpses
on the regular that's a risk in my book pretty risky yeah um the first which again was called the cloney cave and man
for obvious reasons that's where he was found was actually accidentally cut in half by the machine used to dig the Pete
oh no yeah but his upper body showed that he had been brutally murdered his skull was literally smashed open and his
nose the bridge of his nose was like destroyed MH um they believed that somebody used a stone axe to hit him in
the head and in the nose that like gives me a headache it was three blows to the
head and one across the body as well with the axe he was also disemboweled [ __ ] and this is where it
gets crazy his nipples were noticeably cut off and this is important I swear I'll come back to it I'll come back oh
it is he was from all the way back to between 392 and 201 BC yeah where [ __ ] popped off apparently definitely popped
off with these guys when he was examined after being taken out of the bog cloney
Caven man's hair actually looked like it was styled is that the one that I saw um
I no that was a different one okay this one is actually styled using plant oil they found so it was intentionally
styled that's what they used like literally like gel how cool is that isn't that crazy yeah and cool that like
the bog didn't mess that up it didn't mess it up and it was in what looked like a mohawk almost oh [ __ ] yeah he was
[ __ ] cool he was and the makeshift gel was import had to have been imported from either France or Spain cuz that's
where that specific plant grows yo isn't that wild that is really [ __ ] so cool
I was like this is really cool I really into this this is a this is I don't just
a weird thing yeah so the national museum of Ireland actually used samples of cloney Cav's hair to determine that
he ate a lot of they were able to use hair to determine that he ate a a lot of fresh vegetables good for him and
because they were recently ingested by him they were able to say he was murdered in the late summer or early
fall cuz that's when they would have been fresh which like whoa summer squash that's just so wild they used his crazy
hair to say what he ate and then they were able to determine when he died because it had to have been fresh and in
season that's why Pros asks you what you eat there you go what your eating habits
are like look at that always able to take it back heyo now that was the um the cloney caveen man in the Krogan Hill
area they discovered another body this was the old Krogan man in the in bog he was also brutally butchered and dumped
there he had defensive wounds on his upper arms where he had apparently tried to stop whatever was stabbing him but he
was stabbed in the arms instead and apparently part of his torture was that he had Hazel branches literally threaded
through holes that had been cut out of his arms girl like whoa are those like spiky I don't know branes branches like
bendable branches so they had cut holes in his arms and then threaded branches through them while he was alive that is
so [ __ ] up and they did this they they put like threaded these branches through
him to hold him down in the Bog while he was being stabbed in the chest and neck oh then then his head had been
completely cut off his body and he had been bisected chopped in half uh his nipples were also cut off stop and
he was from somewhere between 362 and 175 BC are we going to get any explanation about the nip nips we are
okay but what also they found a braided I think he was actually naked like completely except for a braided armband
around his bicep and it was made of leather and had a bronze amulet in it which is interesting he was somewhere
between 6'6 holy he was a tall all drink of water oh honey we love a tall man calm
down over there and he was well-nourished apparently and he taking samples from his hair actually proved
that he was wealthy enough to eat meat as part of his regular diet which was rare yeah and meant he must have been in
the upper echelon out there eating those turkey legs so they agree scientists agree that both of these men were
clearly of the upper echelon of social class they were in their 20s they were not laborers they were were
well-nourished and showed that they had eaten well in their lives they also had well manicured nails oh which could be
noticed immediately and this meant that they definitely hadn't worked for a living they weren't doing manual labor
right this could also mean apparently I found somewhere else that they could determine that maybe these people were
thieves and that they didn't work for their living they stole for their living and that's why their hands were well
manicured okay but they don't believe that with these two because along with how they ate in their hair and they were
able to use styling gel essentially imported from [ __ ] France exactly that these were clearly not just like
thieves these were upper social class wouldn't it be so cool if like eventually we got I mean I don't want to
get like too many of these bodies of course but we have so many of them if we got like so many in the same place where
we could kind of like Trace lineage and everything you know like that'd be so cool I feel like it it could actually
happen like we have so much that we're getting from and it's like year by year as technology
and science like goes forward and just like gets better and better they're getting more and more from these bodies
cuz some of the things that when they would first get them either in the 80s and the 50s and they you know even the
90s they would think one thing but then we get into the 2000s and everything progressed and then all of a sudden they
go oh wait a second that wasn't the case cuz now we know like some of them there
was a couple that they were like we don't know if this cracked skull is from the layers of Pete MOS Crush Pete Moss
crushing their skull or if it was a Perry morom injury right right and sometimes they would say they think it's
from the Pete Moss and then later they would discover no that was actually done perimortem because we can see evidence
of swelling around the wounds that's crazy which shows that there was bruising which shows that there was
blood flow while it was happening that is just like wild which is just waa whoa wow whoa uh now the nipple thing please
so please no but also please yes please no please yes uh it was important because apparently this led a lot of
researchers to believe that these men could have actually been failed Kings or people in line of sucession who failed
to become Kings so if you fail to become a king they oh I'm going to explain they rip
your nips so are you ready to hear something uh a little shocking I mean I'm going to usually for you yeah I'm
going to say a sentence Oh God that I didn't know I would ever say she's she's looking nervous apparently in Ireland
back in the day our family our family sucking on a king's nipples was once suggested as a form of
submission wait what like like to submit to a King that is what you did that's hot I read something I read something
that said isn't it easier just to kneel and kiss a ring like isn't that just like like Kiss
the Ring kind of like isn't that easier like you got to get undressed you got to
expose your bosom so kings are just whipping their kings are Kings are just horny is What's happen Wy Wy coyote very
Wy Wy nipply coyote so with that in mind which I'm sorry you have that in mind now I apologize but now we're all here
together that's just funny if you sliced off a King's nipples then you have officially deemed him ineligible for
kingship so cutting them off this way maybe was a way to remove or even signify the failed kingship Kings or
those in line would be ritualistically sacrificed at time at times like way back in ancient times because if crops
failed or cattle got sick or something happened in the village King's fault it was the king's responsibility to
sacrifice himself through a ritual to bring back the prosperity to his village did he have to cut off his own nipples
he didn't have to cut them off himself but he had to have them cut off oh it's like a lot oh gosh I gotta like I gotta
go according to IR the Irish examiner Ned Kelly who is the keeper of Antiquities at the national museum of
Ireland says quote cutting them would have made him incapable of kingship in this world and the next well [ __ ] that
doesn't seem fair yeah so you cut it all from here to the Nether world they're like you won't even have nipples when
you're a ghost [ __ ] I'm saying but he said there is also the possibility that the nipple cutting was
just a degradation thing or a humiliation thing associated with torture and murder I could see both
either way really bad and they do believe that with these two because of everything else that these definitely
could have been Nobles and in line of succession or failed Kings [ __ ] yeah now
let's talk about a bog body mix up that ultimately led to a very or more very when in relative to these ones recent
murder conviction what yes so this is a bog body mixup not to be confused with old Greg's downstairs
mixup uh May 13th 1983 Steven douly and Andy molds were doing the old Pete Moss cut and dig
thing everybody out here Pete Moss just all the time and they were in Cheshire county England in the London Moss bog
they ended up finding during this process a big ball of Pete that was like stuck together and they initially joked
that it looked like a dinosaur egg or they were like oh it's like a burst football or something spoiler alert it
wasn't it was not but then they cleaned it off it was actually a human skull that was later determined to be a female
who was between the ages of 30 and 50 years old it was so well preserved that everyone was like holy [ __ ] this is a
recent murder victim like this is not a bog body from like ancient times of course authorities started looking into
recent missing women in the area this is the 80s remember and one in particular started to look like it could
potentially fit this skull a woman named Malika Maria de Fernandez who had gone missing in the 60s and her case had gone
cold she had never been found when she had originally turned up missing back in the 60s her husband Peter rainart was
was interviewed and due to knowledge of their sour marriage and the fact that he
lived feet away from this bog authorities honestly thought he was possibly the one who caused her
disappearance but they just couldn't gather enough evidence to prove it or really to bring him in for much and keep
him now they had done a fullscale investigation and learned that Fernandez was gone traveling the the person who's
missing was had gone traveling a lot like they didn't really have a close marriage it like things were going wrong
and during the time she went missing she had threatened to tell British authorities that her husband was gay now
in the 60s that was considered a criminal offense in the UK [ __ ] wild so he would have been arrested she had
gone missing after this particular fight whether he was gay or not is not what's
at stake here that is nobody really knows the fact that it was also the fact that she was going to to go to the
authorities e whether he was or wasn't and say he was right right so it had been decades and no one had found a
trace of Fernandez but rainbar had been arrested in the interim and he had been released he wasn't arrested for that he
was arrested on sexual abuse against several children oh [ __ ] this guy so he's an actual piece of [ __ ] just keep
that in mind for a second I was like oh I feel kind of bad for I was wow bye that's why I was like we don't know
anything about this guy except that he's a piece of [ __ ] correct and his cellmates had actually come forward and
said that he bragged about killing his wife chopping her up to pieces and burying her all over his yard now they
dug up parts of his garden and yard and they found nothing of real importance so
they bring him in for questioning once they found this skull because it's in the Bog next to his house it's a woman
and it's in the right age range as soon as they begin to explain what they have found to him he confessed everything he
completely admitted into murdering his wife 20 something years prior yep he told authorities that he had gone into a
rage when she threatened to go to the authorities and he had grabbed her and what he said he did was he had shaken
her until she died doubt it like okay like she's not a baby sir he said he had immediately gone into problem solving
mode and he decided he just had to dismember her entire body with an axe including decapitating her and he tried
to burn parts of her but it wasn't working so he threw them in the Bog oh that's why they only found her head so
far mhm he just figured it was a matter of time before they found the rest of her body parts and that's why he
admitted it either way he confessed and they' found her skull it was a solid case of murder wow where's the mixup so
off they went to search and gather the rest of Fernandez's remains that were supposed to be in this bug but searching
for hours and days they turned up nothing not one of body part was found so authorities were like [ __ ] we we
really have to sh up this head we have to make sure you know we really have to like confirm this is her because if we
can't get the rest of her body parts we got to have this for our slam dunk so detective inspector George Abbott had
the had the heads sent to Oxford University research laboratory for archaeology and the history of art to be
thoroughly examined thoroughly dated thoroughly ided when they returned their findings they said yes this is is a
woman between the ages of 30 and 50 years old but it is also a woman who died about
1,700 years ago Dude whoops so when rainbar was informed of this he of course was like oh my God yes
I didn't kill her just kidding phw glad we cleared that up bring out Ashton Kutcher because I just punked you whoa I
was totally kidding I was playing the long game but they were like no you definitely did it you piece of [ __ ] and
you conf you can admit it to it [ __ ] off and his murder charge stood and he was
sentenced to life in prison good they were never able to find Fern Fernandez as real body oh I hope they do but he
did go to prison for life he definitely did it he admitted it to several people including the authorities and he was he
admitted it based on a 1,700 yearold head that he thought was is his wife's that that's some wit [ __ ] that is some
bog body Justice right there that's exactly what that is that is some good vibes coming out and being like we're
going to get some justice for this missing woman while also finding a bog body I'm obsessed I thought that like
blew my mind in that case when I came across that I was like well [ __ ] do you think that he really buried her where
like nobody would find her or do you really think he put her in the Bog I think he might have put her in the Bog
but it's so big and it's like well layers and layers of Pete MTH so she might be found some who knows where she
he put her who knows if he put all of the pieces in the Bog and some of them are buried other places like who really
knows he said he tried to burn some he also sounds like a liar too though because they said that I I I think he
killed her obviously but he said he put her in the garden and they didn't find anything yeah I think he's a lying sack
[ __ ] yeah he's a bullshitter either way he's in prison for life goodbye [ __ ]
that guy let's get on to more bog bodies shall we so let's talk about the lindow
Moss bog bodies so in the same bog that they found this body in they found the remains of a very well-preserved
20-year-old man who later in 1984 the Press apparently named Pete Marsh where did they get the PE from okay press yeah
like this is an actual person like maybe don't okay press let's just keep like the naming convention with where they
are found we don't need to add silly little like Pete Mar no rude now the this body was
another one with manicured nails and a neatly done beard and a neatly done hairstyle nippies or no nippies I
honestly this one I don't know if he I think he did have nipples actually but um he was well-nourished and he was
obviously of a higher class he had been placed into the bog naked with only a leather armlet around his left bicep hm
amulet it I didn't see an amulet but there was definitely a braided leather like something around interesting I
wonder if that was like a symbol of something back then I don't know they could this is what we get to find out
like this is what's so cool about these things is we're seeing all these patterns and different things that are
connecting people into like well this must be ritualistic because of this or right this is what they did back then
it's just so cool but according to BBC he was killed with repeated blows to his head he was then gred he had his throat
sliced open and he was forced to swallow mistletoe [ __ ] then still alive he was
pushed with a very SE like severely violent knee to the back while he was kneeling and he fell into the bog and
drowned in the Bog Water oh my God yeah so the blows showed signs of swelling around two of them which means he was
very much alive when they were inflicted the last blow was to the top of his head
and it forced skull matter into into his brain o they believe too this is wild they believe that the Noose was
tightened as they cut his throat so that it would force the blood out quicker and
create more of a show Almost spraying it like basically spraying it out so brutally that they would bathe everyone
around him and him in his blood hygienic and what's Wild is in the book that I was telling you guys about that I'll
definitely tag in the show notes um she talks about how this also is really scary and like very interesting
because it shows that they had a very good grasp on Anatomy yeah and how the body worked and they were able to like
bring these people to the brink of death and then pull them back and then bring them again and pull them back like it
was very brutal scary very thought out very intricate torture and like to be able to know that if you squeeze on that
certain vessel as you cut that it's going to create that wild spray of blood and make it like a show like theatrical
that's so wild that they were able to think like that back then it's insane and like have that weird control over a
human body it's just like really creepy and I hadn't thought of it until uh Miranda the author of that book like
brought it up in one of the chapters and I was like oh you're right right there was also evidence that he had inhaled
sphagnum so he was very much alive when he was pushed into the bog he inhaled the Bog Water oh a lot of Overkill with
this one definitely so after that one we're going to talk about the grale man I believe that's how you say it this is
a wild injury preserved in time forever April 26 1952 Pete Cutters shocking were
doing their thing in a bog near be nebble guard Fern in the village of groel Denmark when they discovered what
appeared to be a very recent corpse in Tang in the Bog it was not very recent they actually thought that this was like
within the last like 10 year they were like this is a very recent body and they informed The Village doctor and rri
balev an archaeologist of this discovery they when they came to see it they were
like whoa this is wild and they in turn turned this over to the researchers at the orus Museum of
prehistory this man was over 2,300 years old oh my God and he was probably about 30 years old when he was
brutally murdered he was naked he had a ton of hair that looks very fiery Auburn
this is the guy that you saw that you thought had a wig on okay he reminded me of the professor from Harry Potter yes
right the hair you're thinking of lockart right yes yep yeah lock heart's like crazy hair you're right it's very
much like that actually um wow that's wild and uh obviously we've learned that this probably wasn't his natural hair
color maybe he had Lockhart's hair color actually perhaps you know bog gas and [ __ ] he had well manicured nails and his
face had preserved and this is the craziest part of him his face was preserved in a horrifically pained
expression I bet he looks like he was grimacing and his mouth is wide open yeah cuz what were they doing to him
before let's go yeah so what's most upsetting is the gaping wound in his throat it's brutal this wound it's not a
slice it's a gaping wound what someone did it with such force and Savage savagery that they almost cut the head
off completely it was literally Hanging On by skin what did they do you think well according to bog bodies uncovered
that book there was a huge very intense slice across the throat and then quote some small other Cuts with a smooth
sharp bladed instrument that struck the cervical vertebrae severed the fairings and made a large hole in the mouth
that's how deep it was my oh my it stretched virtually from ear to ear both cored arteries and the jugular vein were
severed o he was also stabbed from behind and they believe that a sword or some kind of very big blade like a
machete type of thing was used they also found an open wound and a break of his left tibia oh they were sure this one
occurred while he was being tortured and was caused by some blunt instrument being slammed into his tibia repeatedly
until not only did it break the bone but it opened skin on top of it oh Mama's getting nauseous over here Mama's
literally getting nauseous they were also able to find that in his stomach he had last ate porridge with lots of herbs
in it and there were signs of him having ingested Urgot which we talked about Urgot in the
Salem Witch Trials episode it is a poisonous fungi often found in grains it can cause like hallucinogenic like
hysteria essentially damn and sometimes they think they might have used that in ritualistic sacrifices they would give
this person this like hallucinogenic [ __ ] as part of the ritual oh I'm sorry my tiia still hurts yeah you know when
you get that like if you hear like oh it hurts I know it hurts you're you like want to rub your leg I'm too much of an
empath so let's talk about the last bog body we're going to talk about in this one oh is this like a crescendo type of
deal um not really I mean it's it's bad it's definitely bad but it's like they're all pretty bad I mean yeah so
we'll talk about the hamos woman she was discovered in 1879 near holdo's dead Mark I hope I'm saying that correctly
she was found by Neil's Hansen who was a teacher and he was digging Pete when he
saw her she was thought to have died when she was around 40 years old which again would make her pretty elderly and
she looks elderly like she looks like an older woman and was killed around 160 BC
she was wearing two what they called Skin cloaks but they were like animal skin okay and a Woolen cloak and her
hair was chopped off almost to the SK help o uh her right arm had been viciously hacked off and was found lying
next to her what are you doing she also had a long leather like leather type strap that was wrapped around her hair
and then twice around her neck oh wow her left arm had been bound to her body with another strap and her left leg had
been hacked at as well why and it's believed that she was drowned after being abused and mutilated my God now
that is the holder Mo woman bog bodies are insanely fascinating the fact that we can tell what they ate and
how they lived thousands of years later is is insane wild like my brain we're like like my brain will not wrap around
it properly when you look at them and I'm going to cover more of these in another episode just because I can't not
revisit this it's like very interesting when you look at them you just can't come to terms with the fact that that is
a 2,000 plus year old human being not at all like you can't do it not at all cuz
they're not like mummified in the classic sense of mummification like we've heard about you
know like um like you know Under Ice that some people are preserved for like thousands of years which is also wild
yeah and like mummies are very well preserved but like this is just and this is water well and this is like natural
this is just when water yeah like it's so crazy and just like the weird like chemicals and like and just the violence
associated with the bog bodies is a very interesting thing my favorite part of the whole entire thing was learning that
even back then people were using hair gel yeah like obviously you know that cuz like as as early as like the
beginning of time people use like berries and [ __ ] for makeup you don't think about it but you don't especially
hair gel like I would never think about that to style into like a fauxhawk kind of thing so cool wild so that is the
beginning at least of bog bodies that was really cool I've literally never heard of those before interesting
subject so I hope that you guys enjoyed it too yeah I hope you did and we also hope that you keep listening and we hope
you keep it Weir but not so weird that you make somebody suck your nipples to make you feel Noble bye k
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