The Hi-Fi Murders /// Part 1/// 402 | Forensic Files

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[Music] foreign [Music] April 23rd 1974. the Ogden Standard Examiner page 1 headline read
three murdered as burglars invade Ogden Record Shop Manhunt on the newspaper only cost the locals 10
cents for the daily copy to read about the horrific murders it was not just the murders that
terrified the city located at the foot of the Wasatch mountains it was a fact that the killers were
still on the loose and their identities unknown to law enforcement and the community
portions of Corey Peterson's article read police throughout Utah are searching for
men who use guns in the killing of three persons after invading an Ogden Record Shop
all were shot in the back of the head the chief of detectives in the Ogden Police Department
said all of his men and all officers of the newly formed tactical Squad have been assigned to the case
he called the crime A continuing one lasting several hours the gruesome Affair apparently started
about 7 pm when two men broke into the Hi-Fi shop some of the victims were tied up and
taken down stairs one of the victims was found almost completely nude police said robbery was the primary
motive no motive for the shootings in the torture had been discovered the Utah Highway Patrol said police are
looking for two vans one described as a yellow late model van and the other as a dark blue Chevrolet
van the suspects are considered to be armed and extremely dangerous [Music] good
foreign pm on Monday April 22nd 1974. police are responding to what was labeled at the
time as an unknown trouble call they found a man in very bad shape in a parking lot behind the Hi-Fi shop
located at 2323 Washington Boulevard in Ogden Utah the Hi-Fi shop was a successful store
that sold expensive stereo equipment and Records the man in the parking lot was 43 year old Oren Walker
Oren said he had been shot in the back of the head and tortured by two men who were robbing the store
he said after the men left he had managed to crawl from out of the basement of the store making
it all the way to the parking lot there were other victims inside likely all dead
police searched the area in the store they found no signs of the two assailants cited by Oren but the police
are going to find four more victims in the basement of the Hi-Fi shop regarding the call to police The Story
Goes Like This captain that someone living nearby or working nearby saw Oren in the parking lot of the Hi-Fi shop and
saw him to be in very bad shape they call it into the police department and that's why the cup the call went out as
an unknown trouble call they're responding to something going on but they don't know what it is
around this same time Oren's wife and son arrived on the scene really just seconds before or seconds after the
police there are two rather conflicting stories here the one we just told you about was from the Ogden Standard
Examiner April 23 1974 newspaper the next is from the crime classification manual a standard system for
investigating and classifying violent crimes a book that is the result of a 10-year project by the FBI's National
center for the analysis of violent crime there it says that around 10 30 PM police responded to a call from Oren's
wife and one of his sons who went to the store when they became concerned that Oren and their other son this is Stanley
Walker did not come home in this version which both are to be fair both versions
are repeated in other Publications but these two happen to be the ones that I chose to list here and this version Oren
Walker's son could hear disturbing noises coming from the basement so he either broke down the door or broke into
the shop and found his father unconscious at the foot of the basement stairs how they were found is not really
important what is important is that they were found and found relatively soon after the attacks this most definitely
prevented further loss of life there were five victims total with at least four of them being found in the basement
of the Hi-Fi shop two of the victims were dead when police arrived two more were clinging to life and Oren was in
very bad shape as said the three living victims were immediately transferred to the nearest
hospital now just to give a quick little reference here captain in 1974 about 65
000 people lived in the greater Ogden area our five victims are Michelle Ansley Byron Courtney Nesbitt Carol Nesbitt
Oren Walker and Stanley Walker Michelle and Stanley were the two that were already expired by the time the police
arrived they were both shot in the back of the head and likely died instantly or
very quickly Michelle was 18 years old she was planning on getting married in August of
that same year she was newly employed at the shop she had only worked there for about a week or so
Stanley was 20 years old and employed at the store as well I believe he was in more of a managerial
role or at least in that type of role that evening he likely was in charge of closing the
store that night the terrible and just really strange thing is and we've seen this in some
other tragedies it's been reported that the two that were working that night Michelle and Stanley were actually
filling in for some other employees right that we hear that a lot in cases but this is also scary too because even
in a situation like when I used to work at a bank you're not so worried so much about the
individual coming in and passing a note saying you know I want all your money it's it's the Takeover of the store so
at some point this store this Hi-Fi store has been taken over by how many people we don't even know Carol Nesbitt
was alive when responders were on the scene however she died shortly after arriving at the hospital
Carol was shot in the back of the head and she was 52 years old at this time Byron Courtney Nesbitt was just 16 years
old he was shot in the head as well in the back of the head he survived he was in a coma and was in the hospital for
266 days before he could go home now I do want to point out before we move on that Byron and his father share
the same first name so he went by Courtney his middle name Courtney Nesbitt so if you hear us call this
young man Courtney that's why we are doing that Oren Walker was alive and in the hospital as said he was 43 years old
at the time of the attack but he was alive and actually he was in considerably better shape than Courtney
Nesbitt was he was able to tell police what went down that evening at the stereo shop
so let's talk about that attack and what we know about the robbery that took place at the Hi-Fi shop
Michelle and Stanley were working that night at the Hi-Fi shop the attack took place just before closing time
which was 7 PM when two men entered the shop they were armed they tied Michelle and Stanley up and they forced them down
to the basement right after this Courtney Nesbit is going to enter the Hi-Fi shop
yes he goes in there and the story that has always been told is that he went in there to thank Stanley who was working
at the store that day for allowing him to park his car in their parking lot that he had some things to do in the
area he needed somewhere to park the vehicle it was really just a nice young man
going in and saying hey thank you for allowing me to park there that day unfortunately
he's unaware that the store is in the middle of a hold up during this time where the perps are inside and taking
hostages So Courtney walks in he's very quickly controlled by the two men he's LED downstairs to join the other
two captives then just before 9 pm Oren Stanley's father walks into the stereo store
he went looking for his son as he knew the store had been closed now by this time for almost two hours
when Oren walked in he said that he saw no one and he in fact he didn't hear anything either
he walked around for a bit and then he got near the door that led to the basement when he was surprised by a man
with a gun the man told him to move it downstairs when Stanley sees his father he shouted
something you know this caused a bit of a commotion Stanley was kind of like upset you know he's upset that his
father he's now seeing his father there and he's like why did you come here why did you come here
this causes a commotion which led to one of the assailants to Fire Two Shots this was not shots at the victims this
was two gunshots into the wall my guess here Captain it's one of those situations you see it in movies all the
time you think you're losing control of the the hostages and you're firing what is likely warning shots to let them know
hey I'm still the one that's calling the shots here I'm still the one that's in control everybody needs to settle down
and let me do let me carry on with what we're going to do here but these shots happen while they're in the basement
but do we have any witnesses that hear these shots like outside the no the high five we don't have anybody that has
as far as I know the only Witnesses we ever have outside of the shop would be somebody nearby who said that they saw
one of the victims in the in the parking lot which would have been Oren who called in
to kind of clear that up again it doesn't really matter how they were found what what my thought is on that
you know because a lot of times people are going and I say the same thing when I'm doing the research and say well why
would you have two completely conflicting stories here well one this crime classification manual was written
years after this crime took place the newspaper account came out the very next day and
sometimes when they're reporting things that's they have limited information to report on they're not really filling in
the blanks they're just reporting what they know at the time my guess here Captain is it's likely that all that
stuff was happening everything that is mentioned in both reports actually happened
and they probably all happened very close in time so what we have here now is we have another person entering the
Hi-Fi shop and he's taken captive as well so this is roughly two hours after the
supposedly close and now we have four people hostage correct and these warning shots if you want to call them that this
triggers the hostages to panic and they start to plea with the captors Michelle and Courtney the two youngest they are
begging for their lives Warren and Stanley are taking a different approach here they are trying to convince the men with
the guns to just take the money take any merchandise that they want and telling them hey we won't be able to identify
you we don't know who you are or at the very least we won't identify you right well Captain unfortunately things will
get worse and I'm not really sure why these offenders would not just lock the door
so no one else would enter while they're doing what they're doing my guess is they need to carry out this merchandise
expensive stereo equipment there is a back door too so I can't say for certain but as we know there are five victims in
this incredibly horrific case so now we have victim number five enter into the store this is Carol by now Captain as
you said we have four persons already tied up and on the basement floor Carol Nesbitt Courtney's mother comes into the
store and she just as fast as the others is taken hostage as well now with five people tied up
one of the men instructed the other to get something from their vehicle outside the man returns with a bottle wrapped in
a paper bag from this bottle the man pours a thick blue liquid into a plastic cup
so one of the men explains that the liquid explaining this to the the people that are tied up that the liquid is
vodka mixed with a German drug each of the hostages are told that they are going to have to drink this
concoction they are told that the concoction will make them and make all of them fall
asleep for a while and while they are sleeping the men will be loading up the merchandise and then they will take off
when each of them wakes up they will be fine and eventually they would be found and freed
yeah well damn I wish it could have been just that easy that simple but as we know captain from
the long list of cases we've covered we know it's just so very rare that it is ever that easy or ever that simple right
one of the men forced the hostages to consume the liquid however each victim when they are swallowing this drink
they are coughing they are choking some of them so violently that they are spitting up the liquid from their mouths
and noses now Oren would be one of the last of the five that was forced to consume the liquid
so what he did he saw and he heard the reaction that the others were having to this what clearly
I mean he's 43 years old he's he's an intelligent man he's probably believing hey this is not what they're telling me
it is this is not vodka and a German drug concoction that's just going to make us take a nap right I mean this
would be hard to kind of tell though because at first these individuals are taking the strength they're spitting it
up and that is something that could possibly happen for somebody that is not used to drinking alcohol but they're
they're screaming and right right but that's what I'm saying is like the initially maybe the first couple coughs
or the first couple spit UPS you're going okay well that's just you know this some kind of weird you know I'm
trying to put myself in in their shoes other these guys are drinking this thing there must be some kind of weird alcohol
this is not going well but like you said as it becomes more violent and their reactions would become more violent you
you have to then decide are you going to put this in your mouth at all this this
could be poison right and the thing too is three of our victims are rather Young
when you think about it 16 18 and 20 years old I mean they may have believed what these assailants are saying that
hey it is this concoction in fact maybe maybe Carol and Oren believed it at first as well but you know Oren as said
is 43 years old he knows that if the captain hands me a shot glass and says here Nick shoot this whiskey and I do it
I go ah you know I'm screaming right that it's probably not what these guys are saying plus it's it's always
difficult it's always damn near impossible to believe anybody that's pointing a gun at your face then hold on
real quick I just want to back up a second please don't do any more sound effects that was it was horrible
I tried to get away from the mic so it wouldn't be so so here's what we do okay unbeknownst to
the perpetrators Oren is going to kind of fake consuming the liquid yeah right he's going to spit the liquid out he
faked the coughing and the choking yeah the liquid was not having the effect on the
hostages that was desired by the captors and then things turned very bad very quickly
when they tried to get Courtney to drink the liquid a second time they poured so
much that his mouth overflowed and the liquid came out and got on his face and ran down his his the front of his neck
instantly burning the skin after this they began attempting to give each hostage a second dose the other
hostage is a second dose of the liquid this had similar results as the first time
remember we still have Oren who has been about able to fake drinking the liquid and
seems to be getting away with it at this time again he hears the screams the choking
and the coughing of the others and he continues to imitate these noises and reactions that he's seeing and hearing
right but these captors you got to think about the captures like you said whatever effect they wanted this liquid
to have or this poison to have on their hostages it's not working like planned and so now they have to make a decision
what are they going to do well I think that's why you see okay now here's the time for the double dose the the second
round of this terrible blue liquid and when then the second round doesn't work now they're saying all right let's let's
tape the mouth shut of the now screaming victims you know these victims are are hostages are creating a lot of noise a
lot of commotion we need to silence these people right so they're going to attempt to tape the mouths shut of each
one of these individuals the other assailant at this time decides that he's going to untie
Michelle and he takes her to another part of the basement where he rapes her now some Reports say repeatedly I don't
think we know for certain either way there are some reports that say that this went on for about 20 minutes
and even worse there are some reports that state Not only was the other assailant you know there's there's
only one rapist in this two-man group but some reports state that the other assailant may have even watched The
Assault on Michelle now again but you're standing by and letting it happen it always drives me nuts we we see this
time and time again with a break into a house and a takeover of a house where that's the initial crime
and then all these other Crimes start happening on top of that like like the individuals couldn't control themselves
well Michelle after this attack uh is brought back to where the other hostages are and thrown down between two of the
other victims by this point because of the thick blue liquid the victims most or all of them are vomiting one of the
men is going to start executing are victims it sounds like Courtney and Carol were the first two that were shot
Courtney saw his mother Carol gets shot and then he was shot and lost Consciousness Oren was shot but
this was not a good shot okay there's again several reports the bullet either grazed
him or missed him completely Stanley was shot next and it said that he looked at his father
and told him I've been shot and then he went limp Michelle who begged and begged
and pled for her life repeatedly was shot the men were gone from the basement for
a while after shooting all of the victims one of them returned presumably to check
on the victims ripped him off that Oren was not dead so the man attempted to strangle him
with a cord or a wire then the same man returned later again returning for a second time
this time with a flashlight and he's checking Oren for a pulse angered that Oren was still alive mind
you he is still alive but this whole time he's been pretending to be dead pretending to be dead by staying still
and giving off the appearance of not breathing while you are in pain from having been
tortured your throat mouth lips face necks shoulders your skin is burning and you're forcing yourself to lay there
still he has been choked with a wire to which Oren positioned his neck later we would learn that Oren said hey he
positioned his neck and head and expanded his neck muscles so that he could still somehow get a
little air while this guy was choking him now this robber turned captor turned torture rapist and killer
someone just vicious and evil he's checking for a pulse on Oren and now he's angry that Oren is still
alive he grabs either a pencil or a pen and violently jams it into Oren's ear to which he begins kicking it and
stomping on it until the writing utensil I'm starting to lose my words here Oren can feel it
bust through his ear canal and into his throat apparently this satisfied the attacker
because he then left the basement area of the stereo store and did not return from there Captain we have to leave
everyone with the two versions of how the victims were found and again my best guess is that they are both somewhat
correct because both have Oren Walker's wife and other son arriving about the same time as
police [Music] thank you all right we're back cheers mates cheers to you Captain cheers to everybody out
there listening now thankfully because we have some survivors unfortunately we have three dead victims
but the two that remain alive we have Courtney who is in a coma but then we also have Oren who is able to tell
police what went down and a general description of who is responsible and who they should be looking for
the Utah Highway Patrol said police were looking for the following two African-American males both in their
early 20s one man is approximately five foot ten inches tall and the other man is thought to be six feet tall
they also have that vehicle description looking for two vans one described as a yellow late model van
and the other as a dark blue Chevrolet van and we have a general description of the
weapons used during the whole horrific ordeal as well one of the suspects is believed to have
been carrying a 22 caliber automatic pistol and the other carrying a snub-nosed 25
caliber automatic pistol we see 22 calibers and even more specifically a 22 pistol or handgun in a
lot of the cases that we've covered what we don't see is hardly ever really is a 25.
in fact I was trying to think of a case that we covered with a 25 and really none came to mind
now I do know of at least one Infamous case that the serial killer known as the Grim sleeper
Lonnie David Franklin Jr he shot all of his known victims all 12 of them with a 25 caliber gun
he was apprehended in 2010 he gets the name Captain because he took 14 years off between some of his
killings this was 1988 to 2002. [Music] actually while we're on it I know I'm getting a little off topic here but Nick
Broomfield made a really good documentary called Tales of the Grim sleeper he was the man that made
a lean life and death of a serial killer which was one that made my top 10 list way back when we did our must-see True
Crime episode which was episode 197 yep 197 and came out in April of 2017. so download the very free very awesome
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so again we have the description of the two perpetrators and the description of the vehicle so the Manhunt is on you're
saying that there's a description of two different Vehicles two different Vehicles two different men two different
guns okay and of course as said in the trailer the suspects are considered to be armed and extremely dangerous We Know
by the crimes they've committed they are extremely dangerous so is the thought that they took two vehicles because it
would be easier to transport whatever items they're going to steal from the Hi-Fi store well that that's interesting
I don't know I can't say for certain that they fully believe that both the vehicles belong to the perpetrators
right because you got to keep in mind where is this vehicle description coming from well one could believe that it's
possibly coming from Oren who entered the store right or we've had in other cases Captain where there's other
Witnesses you know where we said that we did didn't have any here but we know that somebody called police with the
unknown trouble call where this vehicle description came from we can't say for certain if it did come from Oren
you have to take it a step further and go okay either both of them are involved or
maybe one or maybe none because Oren at some point is in the basement of the Hi-Fi shop right if he's saying hey I
think I saw these two vehicles on my way into the store he can't say for certain
when they left right boy can you clear something out for me because it I can't find this information and I'm looking
right now I will do my best Mr Captain is this building like separate or is it a part of is it like a standalone
building yeah or like a strip mall okay I from my understanding it is a standalone building well because okay so
because the only picture that I can find it looks as if this Hi-Fi shop is connected to other shops okay that would
also make sense one is called the dollhouse um I'll post these pictures on Instagram
at True Crime garage you're probably looking of pictures at the of the time period
and one thing I will say when I was doing my research is this address that I came up with here that's listed in the
papers for the attack at the time the newspapers that I went through didn't have any pictures of the actual shop
itself but I believe you know we we can imagine that the city's probably grown in the last 45 years right I believe I'm
going off a member here Captain but there is there is a very similar address where there's like a West Washington
Boulevard now and back then there may have just been Washington Boulevard so I couldn't quite confirm both of them are
I believe are currently businesses so I couldn't confirm if the structure had stayed the same and which one was of
this exact Hi-Fi shop but yeah it could be um more of a strip mall type situation
you can some of the stuff that I'm finding is uh this is a Hi-Fi store but one of the
pictures that keeps coming up is a high high five store or called the Hi-Fi shop
but it's in Ann Arbor Michigan so they're just filling in a random picture yeah to go with with the story
stock photos that what they call those yeah and the only reason why I'm saying that is because
maybe you get uh if there's a small parking lot that somebody from a different store parked there you know
like an employee just use that parking lot when I used to teach at the guitar store right I parked
in the parking lot of the building next door so somebody would have seen my vehicle at that shop
but that doesn't mean I was in that shop right no you bring up a good point and I
think that at this time in our investigation in The Manhunt police aren't certain exactly what kind of
vehicle they're looking for they've somehow obtained the description of these two vehicles they're going to
include both of them out to all of their other officers out to the newspapers to get the public
involved you're going to include both hoping that one or both were in fact actually involved in the commission of
these crimes but as we said in the trailer there captain these suspects are considered to be
armed and extremely dangerous the state patrol and police posted several officers on guard at the hospital
because there were a lot of concerns that the men responsible learning that two of the victims had in
fact survived might go to the hospital and try to finish the job so to speak well and
think about if you're the responding officer you go to the scene there's no hostages on the main level you now go to
the basement you find the other four down in the basement three are shot and killed
the other one's in a coma but on top of that you have to have some like you were saying that this this
liquid that they drink there has to you were saying that it was burning the skin
and the victims were vomiting at one point right so you have vomit all over the place you have these
marks that probably don't make any sense to you on their face and on top of that they're all executed
I mean this would be a horrific scene to try to piece together all the puzzles of
what the hell happened well in some of those details were left out of the next day's paper mind you they're still
hunting for the the perpetrators at this time right look it there's no doubt that these
assailants were certainly dangerous but they really weren't on the run right they they were not
intending on running or fleeing or you know going across state lines really what happened is they were intent on
returning to their normal everyday lives after killing three people and leaving another one in critical condition barely
alive in a hospital bed after police gave the public the description of the two suspects police received a couple of
tips right one tip was from a man at the a nearby Air Force Base this is Hill Air
Force Base the man lived at the base he was an Airman and said that another air man his name William Andrews told him
several months before that he and another air man this is Dale s Perry were going to do something big someday
like a robbery then on a separate occasion William Andrews told him someday I'm going to rob the Hi-Fi shop
and if anyone gets in my way I'm going to kill them again if you're working with somebody that
says one day I'm going to do something big like Rob the Hi-Fi store maybe you should start by saying maybe you should
set your goals a little higher right I mean who knows what what conversation was had after somebody says this we know
that a lot of times when something like this happens often the other person thinks that the
the person's joking right or just saying something out of turn there so I'm going to rob the Hi-Fi shop
specifically references the Hi-Fi shop and if anyone gets in my way I'm going to kill them well this tip now mind you
you got to keep in mind we don't know what this tip means at this time when it comes into the police force or to the
task force we don't know anybody can call in we've seen plenty of cases where we have
a divorced wife who's calling in some bad tip about their ex-husband or an ex-husband calling in some bad tip about
their ex-wife right because it's somebody that's mad at somebody and says oh they fit the vague description of
whomever they're looking for their Cape oh if they're capable of hurting me they're capable of pulling this off
so detectives want to figure out is there any validity to this actual tip and they went to the air base responding
to this specific tip but before they arrive another tip is called in and it's from the base as well or very nearby but
the tipster stated that two boys well for a back a lack of a better term were dumpster diving
and in a dumpster located at Hill Air Force Base they found a wallet some purses and identification all of
this belonging to some of the victims of the Hi-Fi murders in this dumpster right
which makes this tip seem a lot more credible right so we got to kind of keep this all in real time here and
understand that not always does the left hand know what the right hand's doing or
the right hand know what the left hand is doing right so by the time detectives got there
to the scene to this Air Force Base a crowd had gathered in the parking lot around the dumpsters
the detective and I tried my damnedest to find his name but but could not just like the the
picture of the actual Hi-Fi shop there are two really good books that discuss the case and the Wikipedia pages
is really good too and pretty thorough but the newspapers and everything else just list this man as the detective who
responded to the scene that's didn't even get his name put it out there not even in the paper
well but I wonder if they did that on some level to protect this and protect them from yeah from these very dangerous
people or does he hold a certain position at that department where we don't want
everybody knowing his name and face right the books by the way are the crime classification manual and
this case is included as a sample case just a few pages of a case study categorized as indiscriminate felony
murder that's a case study where the investigating agency classifies a murder as indiscriminate because the offender
or like in this case the offenders have decided they're going to carry out a felony and will murder whoever
in the commission of that crime regardless of victimology now I'm not an expert enough to know if
the decision to commit murder has to come in advance of the felony or spur of the moment my guess would be that both
apply for that classification the other book is John Douglas and Mark all shakers the anatomy of motive where this
case is briefly referenced in a chapter very fittingly titled Magnum Force at the scene Captain the detective stood in
front of the Gathering crowd at the dumpster and began pulling items out of the dumpster related to the crimes
this Detective took some classes at Quantico and received some training from the FBI
John Douglas says the detective understood both the investigative techniques and the dramatic Flair we
meaning his department at the FBI sometimes advocate if we feel it might help in hunting an
unsub and Unknown Subject or an unknown perpetrator right so the detective using long needle nose
pliers pulled items out of the dumpster one at a time and each time he's waving them so the
crowd could see them as his partner held open an Evidence bag for each item keep in mind technically at this point
the detectives have yet to identify their suspects by name even though they've received some tips right
he suspected the detective at the dumpster he suspected that the perps may be in the crowd and like so
many others they wanted to observe what they could about the investigation as you know with Delphi we have ISP Doug
Carter who says the famous quote you want to know what we know yeah I mean again we have five victims three of them
are now dead one's in a coma so they're not talking and we don't know and we we can assume that these suspects don't
know they don't know the health conditions of the other Survivor so as far as identifying this person if you don't
know these individuals this is going to be really hard other than you know a blanket
um profile yeah I believe that the papers the newspaper at the time when describing the two survivors simply said
that they were both hospitalized one in critical condition so that doesn't give you much of a description one but then
on top of that keeping keep in mind you know just a few weeks ago we discussed Paul John Knowles
and he was a real monster a real piece of work who went around and he robbed and killed people he didn't need to kill
them but he did and he jokingly told somebody at one point later in his life the only good witness is a dead Witness
well that applies here doesn't it because at the time we have at least two perpetrators we have one one victim
saying hey I saw two men I was taken captive and the others were killed by these two men
these two men the perpetrators left that crime scene with merchandise with money
from the robbery believing that they didn't leave anybody alive right believing that they had killed every
witness that saw the crime go down but but there are other mistake is they took items from the victim so when you get
this initial call from the Air Force Base saying hey some guys that I worked with talked
about this and then they they go digging and they find items from the victims if
they never found those items from the victims I think that becomes a dead-end lead
yeah and it's the common curiosity of the perpetrator of the unknown perpetrator that very often yes they
want to know what investigators know they want to trace and track the investigation itself because of many
different reasons but one that we've pointed out in the past is they want to know maybe should I flee now or not
should I take off is now a good time to go live in Alaska right how hot is the hot tub right it's
getting pretty hot how hot is the hot tub this well-trained very intelligent unnamed Detective
he knew from his training that if the perpetrators were in fact in the crowd they likely would have some kind of
visible reaction to seeing these items being taken into police possession this is now evidence
yeah what if he like pulled out each item and went got him a guy team well the detective decided he's going to
like he's he's adding Flair to this he's he's purposely lifting every item up so
it's well visible to the crowd that's Gathering and while he's doing this he's watching
the crowd to see if there is a reaction to which he says he spotted two men who became
visibly more and more agitated each time an item was bagged and tagged by the officers
at one point he says the two men in the crowd were pacing back and forth and sharing like these menacing looks at one
another as they're seeing some of these items pulled from the dumpster because one of the guys is given the look of why
did we take these items you idiot not only that if you wonder like was it one guy's decision to dump these items in
the dumpster right and the other one's like I told you that was a bad idea now look where we're at it's the hot tub and
it's getting hot yeah too hot in the hot tub police then decide hey let's interview these two guys that we saw
becoming visibly agitated in the crowd right and eventually they learn the names of these men from
Witnesses but also from speaking with them the one witness who called in the information about the I'm going to rob
the store this is where they learn the name of Andrews and he is cited as being the one
specifically to have told this witness I want to rob the Hi-Fi shop and if anyone
gets in my way I'm going to kill them after police arrested the two the two guys from the crowd then we have
a third man who comes forward and he turns himself into police and says hey I'm here to talk to you about the Hi-Fi
shop [Music] I want to thank everybody for joining us here again in the garage you mean so
much to us so much more to get to in part two and until part two be good be kind and don't litter
foreign [Applause]

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Brief Summary

The episode recounts the 1974 Hi-Fi shop murders, detailing the brutal attack and subsequent police investigation.

Key points

Three Murdered in Ogden. A shocking headline reveals a brutal crime in Ogden, Utah, leaving the community terrified.
The Hi-Fi Shop Attack. A robbery escalates into a horrific hostage situation at a stereo shop.
Desperate Pleas for Life. Hostages beg for their lives as the situation becomes increasingly dire.
Survivors' Accounts. Two survivors provide crucial details about the horrific Hi-Fi shop murders.
Chilling Confession. A tip reveals a suspect's intent to kill anyone who interferes with their robbery plans.
Detective's Strategy. A detective uses dramatic flair to elicit reactions from potential suspects in the crowd.

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