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headline read three murdered as burglars invade Ogden Record Shop Manhunt on the newspaper only cost the locals 10
cents for the daily copy to read about the horrific murders it was not just the murders that
terrified the city located at the foot of the satch mountains it was a fact that the killers
were still on the loose and their identities unknown to law enforcement and the community portions of Cory Peterson's
article read police throughout Utah are searching for men who Ed guns in the killing of three persons after invading
an Ogden Record Shop all were shot in the back of the head the chief of detective IV in the
Ogden Police Department said all of his men and all officers of the newly formed
tactical Squad have been assigned to the case he called the crime A continuing one lasting several
hours the gruesome Affair apparently started about 700 p.m. when two men broke into the Hi-Fi
shop some of the victims were tied up and taken downstairs one of the victims was found almost
completely nude police said robbery was the primary motive no motive for the shootings and
the torture had been discovered the Utah Highway Patrol said police are looking for two
Vans one described as a yellow late model van and the other as a dark blue Chevrolet van
the suspects are considered to be armed and extremely [Music] dangerous sometime after 900 p.m. on
Monday April 22nd 1974 police are responding to what was labeled at the time as an unknown
trouble call they found a man in very bad shape in a parking lot behind the Hi-Fi shop located at
2323 Washington Boulevard in Ogden Utah the Hi-Fi shop was a successful store that sold expensive stereo equipment and
Records the man in the parking lot was 43-year-old Orin Walker Orin said he had been shot in the back of the head and
tortured by two men who were robbing the store he said after the men left he had
managed to crawl from out of the basement of the store making it all the way to the parking lot there were other
victims inside likely all dead police searched the area and the store they found no signs of the two asants cited
by Orin but the police are going find four more victims in the basement of the Hi-Fi shop regarding the call to police
The Story Goes Like This captain that someone living nearby or working nearby saw Orin in the parking lot of the Hi-Fi
shop and saw him to be in very bad shape they call it into the police department
and that's why the the call went out as an unknown trouble call they're responding to something going on but
they don't know what it is around the same time orin's wife and son arrived on the scene really just seconds before or
seconds after the police there are two rather conflicting stories here the one we just told you about was from the
Ogden Standard Examiner April 23 1974 newspaper the next is from the crime classification manual a standard system
for investigating and classifying violent crime times a book that is the result of a 10-year project by the FBI's
National center for the analysis of violent crime there it says that around 10:30 p.m. police responded to a call
from orin's wife and one of his sons who went to the store when they became concerned that Orin and their other son
this is Stanley Walker did not come home and this version which both are to be fair both versions are repeated in other
public locations but these two happen to be the ones that I chose to list here in
this version Orin Walker's son could hear disturbing noises coming from the basement so he either broke down the
door or broke into the shop and found his father unconscious at the foot of the basement stairs how they were found
is not really important what is important is that they were found and found relatively soon after the attacks
this most definitely prevented further loss of life there were five victims total with at least four of them being
found in the basement of the Hi-Fi shop two of the victims were dead when police
arrived two more were clinging to life and or was in very bad shape as said the three living victims were immediately
transferred to the nearest hospital now just to give a quick little reference here captain in 1974 about 65,000 people
lived in the greater Ogden area our five victims are Michelle antley Byron Courtney Nesbit Carol Nesbit Orin Walker
and Stanley Walker Michelle and Stanley were the two that were already expired by the time the police arrived they were
both shot in the back of the head and likely died instantly or very quickly Michelle was 18 years old she was
planning on getting married in August of that same year she was newly employed at
the shop she had only worked there for about a week or so Stanley was 20 years old and employed at the store as well I
believe he was in more of a managerial role or at least in that type of role that evening he likely was in charge of
closing the store that night the terrible and just really strange thing is and we've seen this in some other
tragedies it's been reported that the two that were working that night Michelle and Stanley were actually
filling in for some other employees right that we hear that a lot in cases but this is also scary too because even
in a situation like when I used to work at a bank you're not so worried so much about the individual coming in and
passing a note saying you know I want all your money it's it's the Takeover of the store so at some point this store
this high five story has been taken over by how many people we don't even know Carol Nesbit was alive when responders
were on the scene however she died shortly after arriving at the hospital Carol was shot in the back of the head
and she was 52 years old at this time Byron Courtney Nesbit was just 16 years old he was shot in the head as well in
the back of the head he survived he was in a coma and was in in the hospital for
266 days before he could go home now I do want to point out before we move on that Byron and his father share the same
first name so he went by Courtney his middle name Courtney Nesbit so if you hear us call this young man Courtney
that's why we are doing that Orin Walker was alive and in the hospital as said he
was 43 years old at the time of the attack but he was alive and actually he was in considerably better shape than
Courtney Nesbit was he was able to tell police what went down that evening at the stereo shop so let's talk about that
attack and what we know about the robbery that took place at the Hi-Fi shop Michelle and Stanley were working
that night at the Hi-Fi shop the attack took place just before closing time which which was 7:00 p.m. when two
men entered the shop they were armed they tied Michelle and Stanley up and they forced them down to the basement
and right after this Courtney nesbet is going to enter the high-fi shop yes he goes in there and the story
that has always been told is that he went in there to thank Stanley who was working at the store that day for
allowing him to park his car in their parking lot that he had some things to do in the area he needed somewhere to
park the vehicle it was really just a nice young man going in and saying hey thank you for allowing me to park there
that day unfortunately he's unaware that the store is in the middle of a holdup during this time where the perss are
inside and taking hostages the Courtney walks in he's very quickly controlled by
the two men he's LED downstairs to join the other two captives then just before 9900 p.m. Orin
Stanley's father walks into the stereo store he went looking for his son as he knew the store had been closed now by
this time for almost 2 hours when Orin walked in he said that he saw no one and in fact he didn't hear anything either
he walked around for a bit and then he got near the door that led to the basement when he was surprised by a man
with a gun the man told him to move it downstairs when Stanley sees his father he shouted something you know this
caused a bit of a commotion Stanley was kind of like upset you know he's upset that his father he's now seeing his
father there and he's like why did you come here why did you come here this causes a commotion which led to one of
the asants to Fire Two Shots this was not shots at the victims this was two gun shots into the wall my
guess here Captain it's one of those situations you see it in movies all the time you think you're losing control of
the the hostages M and you're firing what is likely warning shots to let them know hey I'm still the one that's
calling the shots here I'm still the one that's in control everybody needs to settle down and let me do let me carry
on with what we're going to do here but these shots happen while they're in the basement but do we have any witnesses
that hear these shots like outside the no theore we don't have anybody that has as far as I know the only Witnesses we
ever have outside of the shop would be somebody nearby who said that they saw one of the victims in the in the
parking lot which would have been Orin who called in to kind of clear that up again it
doesn't does really matter how they were found what what my thought is on that you know CU a lot of times people are
going and I say the same thing when I'm doing the research and say well why would you have two completely
conflicting stories here well one this crime classification manual was written years after this crime took place the
newspaper account came out the very next day and sometimes when they're reporting
things that's they have limited information to report on they're not really filling in the blanks they're
just reporting what they know at the time my guess here Captain is it's likely that all that stuff was happening
everything that is mentioned in both reports actually happened and they probably all happened very close in time
so what we have here now is we have another person entering the Hi-Fi shop and he's taken captive as well so
this is roughly 2 hours after they supposedly close mhm and now we have four people hostage correct and these
warning shots if you want to call them that this triggers the hostages to panic and they start to plea with the captors
Michelle and Courtney the two youngest they are begging for their lives Orin and Stanley are taking a different
approach here they are trying to convince the men with the guns to just take the money take any merchandise that
they want and telling them hey we won't be able to identify you we don't know who you are or at the very least we
won't identify you right well Captain unfortunately things will get worse and I'm not really sure why these offenders
would not just lock the door so no one else would enter while they're doing what they're doing my guess is they need
to carry out this merchandise expensive stereo equipment mhm there is a back door too so I can't say for certain but
as we know there are five victims in this incredibly horrific case so now we have victim number five enter into the
store this is Carol by now Captain as you said we have four persons already tied up and on the basement floor Carol
nesbet Courtney's mother comes into the store and she just as fast as the others
is taken hostage as well now now with five people tied up one of the men instructed the other to get something
from their vehicle outside the man returns with a bottle wrapped in a paper bag from this bottle
the man pours a thick blue liquid into a plastic cup so one of the men explains that the liquid explaining this to the
the people that are tied up that the liquid is vodka mixed with a German drug each of the hostages are told that they
are going to have to drink this concoction they are told that the concoction will make them and make all
of them fall asleep for a while and while they are sleeping the men will be loading up the merchandise and then they
will take off when each of them wakes up they will be fine and eventually they would be
found and freed yeah well damn I wish it could have been just that easy that simple but
as we know captain from the long list of cases we've covered we know it's just so
very rare that it is ever that easy or ever that simple right one of the men forced the hostages to consume the
liquid however each victim when they are swallowing this drink they are coughing they are choking
some of them so violently that they are spitting up the liquid from their mouths
and noses now Orin would be one of the last of the five that was forced to consume the
liquid so what he did he saw and he heard the reaction that the others were having to this what clearly I mean he's
43 years old he's he's an intelligent man he's probably believing hey this is not what they're telling me it is this
is not vodka in a German drug concoction it's just going to make us take a nap right I mean this would be hard to kind
of tell though because at first these individuals are taking this drink they're spitting it up and that is
something that could possibly happen for somebody that is not used to drinking alcohol but they're they're screaming
and right but that's what I'm saying is like the initially maybe the first couple coughs or the first couple
spit-ups you're going okay well that's just you know this some kind of weird you know I'm trying to put myself in in
their shoes oh there these guys are drinking this thing there must be some kind of weird
alcohol this is not going well but like you said as it becomes more violent and their reactions become more violent mhm
you you have to then decide are you going to put this in your mouth at all this this could be poison right and the
thing too is three of our victims are rather Young when you think about it 16 18 and 20 years old I mean they may have
believed what these asants are saying that hey it is this concoction in fact maybe maybe
Carol and Orin believed it at first as well but you know Orin as said is 43 years old he knows that if the captain
hands me a shot glass and says here Nick shoot this whiskey and I do it I go you
know and I'm screaming right that it's probably not what these guys are saying plus it's it's always difficult it's
always damn near impossible to believe anybody that's pointing a gun at your face and hold on real quick I I just
want to back up a second please don't do any more sound effects that was it was horrible I tried to get away from the
mic so it wouldn't be so so here's what we do okay unbeknownst to the perpetrators Orin is going to kind of
fake consuming the liquid yeah right he's going to spit the liquid out he faked the coughing and the choking yeah
the liquid was not having the effect on the hostages that was desired by the captors
and then things turned very bad very quickly when they tried to get Courtney to drink the liquid a second time they
poured so much that his mouth overflowed and the liquid came out and got on his face and ran down his his the front of
his neck uh instantly burning the skin after this they began attempting to give each hostage a second dose the other
hostages a second dose of the liquid this had similar results as the first time remember we still have Orin who has
been about able to fake drinking the liquid and seems to be getting away with it at this time again he hears the
screams the choking and the coughing of the others and he continues to imitate these noises and reactions that he's
seeing and hearing right but these captors you got to think about the captors like you said whatever effect
they wanted this liquid to have or this poison to have on their hostages it's not working mhm like
planned and so now they have to make a decision what are they going to do well I think that's why you see okay now
here's the time for the double do the the second round of this terrible blue liquid and when then the second round
doesn't work now they're saying all right let's let's tape the mouth shut of the now screaming victims you know these
victims are our hostages are creating a lot of noise a lot of commotion we need to silence these people right so they're
going to attempt to tape the mouths shut of each one of these individuals the other as salent at this
time decides that he's going to untie Michelle and he takes her to another part of the
basement where he rapes her now some Reports say repeatedly I don't think we know for certain either way there are
some reports that say that this went on for about 20 minutes and even worse there are some reports that state Not
only was the other as salant you know there's there's only one rapist in this Twan group but some reports state that
the other as salent may have even watched watched The Assault on Michelle yeah again but you're standing by and
letting it happen it always drives me nuts we we see this time and time again with a break into a house and a takeover
of a house where that's the initial crime and then all these other Crimes start happening on top of that like like the
individuals couldn't control themselves well Michelle after this attack uh is brought back to where the other hostages
are and thrown down between two of the other victims by this point because of the thick blue liquid the victims most
or all of them are vomiting one of the men is going to start executing our victims it sounds like
Courtney and Carol were the first two that were shot Courtney saw his mother Carol get shot and then he was shot and
lost Consciousness Orin was shot but this was not a good shot okay there's again several reports the bullet either
grazed him or missed him completely Stanley was shot next and it said that he looked at his father and
told him I've been shot and then he went limp Michelle who begged and begged and
pled for her life repeatedly was shot the men were gone from the basement for a while after shooting all of the
victims one of them returned presumably to check on the victims something tipped
him off that or was not dead so the man attempted to strangle him with a cord or
a wire then the same man returned later again returning for a second time this time with a flashlight
and he's check checking Orin for a pulse angered that Orin was still alive mind you he is still alive but this
whole time he's been pretending to be dead pretending to be dead by staying still and giving off the appearance of
not breathing while you are in pain from having been tortured your throat mouth lips face neck shoulders your skin is
burning and you're forcing yourself to lay there still he has been choked with a
wire to which Orin positioned his neck later we would learn that Orin said hey he positioned his neck and head and
expanded his neck muscles so that he could still somehow get a little air while this guy was
choking him now this robber turned captor turned torturer rapist and killer someone just vicious and evil he's
checking for a pulse on Orin and now he's angry that Orin is still alive he grabs either a pencil or a pen
and violently jams it into orin's ear to which he begins kicking it and stomping on it until the writing
utensil I'm starting to lose my words here Orin can feel it bust through his ear canal and into his
throat apparently this satisfied the attacker because he then left the basement area of the stereo store
and did not return from there Captain we have to leave everyone with the two versions of how the victims were found
and again my best guess is that they are both somewhat correct because both have
Orin Walker's wife and other son arriving about the same time as [Music] police [Music]
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cheers to you Captain cheers to everybody out there listening now thankfully because we have some
survivors unfortunately we have three dead victims but the two that remain alive we have Courtney who is in a coma
but then we also have Orin who is able to tell police what went down and a general description of who is
responsible and who they should be looking for the Utah Highway Patrol said police were looking for the following
two africanamerican males both in their early 20s one man is approximately 5' 10
in tall and the other man is thought to be 6 ft tall they also have that vehicle
description looking for two Vans one described as a yellow late model van and the other as a dark blue Chevrolet van
and we have a general description of the weapons used during the whole horrific ordeal as well one of the suspects is
believed to have been carrying a 22 caliber automatic pistol and the other carrying a snub-nosed 25 caliber
automatic pistol we see 22 calibers and even more specifically a 22 pistol or handgun in a
lot of the cases that we've covered what we don't see is hardly ever really is a
25 MH in fact I was trying to think of a case that we covered with a 25 and really none came to mind now I do know
of at least one Infamous case that the serial killer known as the Grim sleeper Lonnie David Franklin Jr he shot all of
his known victims all 12 of them with a 25 caliber gun he was apprehended in 2010 he gets the name Captain because he
took 14 years off between some of his killings this was 1988 to 2002 mhm actually while we're on it I know
I'm getting a little off topic here but Nick Broomfield made a really good documentary called Tales of the Grim
sleeper he was the man that made aen life and death of a serial killer which was one that made my top 10 list
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our old episodes all of the old True Crime garage episodes so again we have the description of the two perpetrators
and the description of the vehicle so the Manhunt is on you were saying that there's a description of two different
Vehicles two different Vehicles two different men two different guns okay and of course as said in the trailer the
suspects are considered to be armed and extremely dangerous We Know by the crimes they've committed they are
extremely dangerous so is the thought that they took two vehicles because it would be easier to transport whatever
items they're going to steal from the Hi-Fi store well that that's interesting I don't know I can't say for certain
that they fully believe that both the vehicles belong to the perpetrators right because you got to keep in mind
where is this vehicle description coming from well one could believe that it's possibly coming from Orin who entered
the store right or we've had in other cases Captain where there's other Witnesses you know where we we said that
we didn't have any here but we know that somebody called police with the unknown
trouble call where this vehicle description came from we can't say for certain if it did come from
Orin you have to take it a step further and go okay either both of them are involved
or maybe one or maybe none because Orin at some point is in the basement of the Hi-Fi shop right if he's saying hey
I think I saw these two vehicles on my way into the store he can't say for certain when they left right boy can you
clear something up for me cuz it I can't find this information and I'm looking right now I will do my best Mr Captain
is this building like separate or is it a part of is it like a standalone building yeah or like a strip mall okay
I from my understanding it is a standalone building well because okay so because the only picture that I can
find it looks as if this Hi-Fi shop is connected to other shops okay uh that would also make sense one is called the
dollhouse um I'll post these pictures on Instagram at True Crime garage you're probably looking of pictures at the of
the time period And once thing I will say when I was doing my research is this address
that I came up with here that's listed in the papers for the attack at the time the newspapers that I went through
didn't have any pictures of the actual shop itself but I believe you know we we can imagine that the city's probably
grown in the last 45 years right I believe I'm going off a memory here Captain but there is there is a very
similar address where there's like a West Washington Boulevard now and back then there may have just been Washington
Boulevard so I couldn't quite confirm both of them are I believe are currently businesses so I couldn't confirm if the
structure had stayed the same and which one was of this exact Hi-Fi shop but yeah it could be um more of a strip mall
type situation again some of the stuff that I'm finding is um this is a Hi-Fi store but one of the pictures that keeps
coming up is a high high-fi store or called the Hi-Fi shop but it's in an Arbor Michigan so they're just filling
in a random picture yeah to go with with the story a stock photo is that what they call those yeah and the only reason
why I'm saying that is because maybe you get uh if there's a small parking lot that somebody from a different store
parked there you know like a employee just use that parking lot when I used to teach at the guitar store right I I par
parked in the parking lot of the building next door so somebody would have seen my vehicle at that shop but
that doesn't mean I was in that shop right no you bring up a good point and I think that at this time in our
investigation in The Manhunt police aren't certain exactly what kind of vehicle they're looking for they've
somehow obtained the description of these two vehicles they're going to include both of them out to all of their
other officers out to the newspapers to get the public involved you're you're going to include both hoping that one or
both were in fact actually involved in the commission of these crimes but as we said in the trailer there Captain these
suspects are considered to be armed and extremely dangerous the state patrol and
police posted several officers on guard at the hospital because there were a lot
of concerns that the men responsible learning that two of the victims had in fact
survived might go to the hospital and try to finish the job so to speak well and think about if you're the responding
officer you go to the scene there's no hostages on the main level you now go to the basement you find the other four
down in the basement three are shot and killed the other one's in a coma but on top of that you have to have
some like you were saying that this this liquid that they drank there has to you
were saying that it was burning the skin and the victims were vomiting at one point right so you have vomit all over
the place you have these marks that probably don't make any sense to you on their face and on top of that they're
all executed I mean this would be a horrific scene to try to piece together all the
puzzles of what the hell happened well and some of those details were left out of the next days paper mind you they're
still hunting for the the perpetrators at this time right look it there's no doubt that these asants were certainly
dangerous but they really weren't on the run right they they were not intending on running or fleeing or you know going
cross state lines really what happened is they were intent on returning to their normal everyday lives after
killing three people and leaving another one in critical condition barely alive in a hospital bed mhm after police gave
the public the description of the two suspects police received a couple of tips right one tip was from a man at the
a nearby Air Force Base this is Hill Air Force Base the man lived at the base he
was an Airman and said that another air Airman his name William Andrews told him
several months before that he and another another air man this is Dale s Perry we're going to do something big
someday like a robbery then on a separate occasion William Andrews told him someday I'm going to rob the Hi-Fi
shop and if anyone gets in my way I'm going to kill them again if you're working with
somebody that says one day I'm going to do something big like Rob the Hi-Fi store maybe you you start by saying
maybe you should set your goal RS a little higher right I mean who knows what what conversation was had after
somebody says this we know that a lot of times when something like this happens often the other person thinks that the
person's joking right or just saying something out of turn there so I'm going to rob the Hi-Fi shop specifically
references the Hi-Fi shop and if anyone gets in my way I'm going to kill them well this tip now mind you you got to
keep in mind we don't know what this tip means means at this time when it comes into the police force or to the task
force we don't know anybody can call in we've seen plenty of cases where we have a divorced wife who's calling in
some bad tip about their ex-husband or an ex-husband calling in some bad tip about their ex-wife right because it's
somebody that's mad at somebody and says oh they fit the vague description of whomever they're looking for they're cap
oh if they're capable of hurting me they're capable of pulling this off so detectives want to figure out is there
any validity to this actual tip and they went to the air base responding to this
specific tip but before they arrive another tip is called in and it's from the base as well or very nearby but the
tipster stated that two boys well for a back of lack of a better term were dumpster diving and in a dumpster
located at Hill Air Force Base they found a wallet some purses an identification all of this belonging to
some of the victims of the Hi-Fi murders in this dumpster right which makes his tip seem a lot more credible right so we
got to kind of keep this all in real time here and understand that not always does the left hand know what the right
hand's doing or the right hand know what the left hand's doing right so by the time detectives got there to the scene
to this Air Force basee a crowd had gathered in the parking lot around the dumpsters the
detective and I tried my damnest to find his name but but could not just like the
the picture of the actual Hi-Fi shop there are two really good books that discuss the case and the Wikipedia page
is is really good too and pretty thorough but the newspapers and everything else just list this man as
the detective who responded to the scene that's didn't even get his name put out
there not even in the paper well but I wonder if they did that on some level to protect this end of protect them from
yeah from these very dangerous people or does he hold a certain position at that
department where we don't want everybody knowing his name and face right the books by the way are the crime
classification manual and this case is in included as a sample case just a few pages of a case study categorized as
indiscriminate felony murder that's a case study where the investigating agency classifies a murder as
indiscriminate because the offender or like in this case the offenders have decided they are going to carry out a
felony and will murder whoever in the commission of that crime regardless of victimology now I'm not an expert enough
to know if the decision to commit murder has to come in advance of the felony or
spur the moment my guess would be that both apply for that classification the other book is John
Douglas and Mark all Shaker's the anatomy of motive where this case is briefly referenced in a chapter very
fittingly titled Magnum Force at the scene Captain the detective stood in front of the Gathering crowd at the
dumpster and began pulling items out of the dumpster related to the crimes this detective took some classes
at quano and received some training from the FBI John Douglas says the detective
understood both the investigative techniques and the dramatic flare we meaning his department at the FBI
sometimes Advocate if we feel it might help in hunting an unsub an unknown know subject
or an unknown perpetrator right so the detective using long needlenose pliers pulled items out of the dumpster one at
a time and each time he's waving them so the crowd could see them as his partner
held open an Evidence bag for each item keep in mind technically at this point the detectives have yet to identify
their suspects by name even though they've received some tips right he suspected the detective at the dumpster
he suspected that the perss may be in the crowd and like so many others they wanted to
observe what they could about the investigation as you know with Deli we have ISP Doug Carter who says the famous
quote you want to know what we know yeah I mean again we have five victims three
of them are now dead one's in a coma so they're not talking and we don't know and we we can assume that these suspects
don't know they don't know the health conditions of the other Survivor so as far as identifying this person if you
don't know these individuals this is going to be really hard other than you know a
blanket um profile yeah I believe that the papers the newspaper at the time when describing the two survivors simply
said that they were both hospitalized one in critical condition so that doesn't give you much of a description
one but then on top of that keep in keep in mind you know just a few weeks ago we
discussed Paul John nolles and he was a real monster a real piece of work who went around and he
robbed and killed people he didn't need to kill them but he did and he jokingly told somebody at one point later in his
life the only good witness is a dead witness well that applies here doesn't it because at the time we have at least
two perpetrators we have one one victim saying hey I saw two men we I was taken captive and the others were killed by
these two men these two men the perpetrators left that crime scene with merchandise with
money from the robbery believing that they didn't leave anybody alive right believing that they had killed every
witness that saw the crime go down but but their other mistake is they took items from the victim so when you get
this initial call from the Air Force Base saying hey some guys that I worked with talked about this and then they
they go digging and they find items from the victims if they never found those items from the victims I think that
becomes a dead- end lead mhm yeah and it's the common curiosity of the perpetrator of the unknown perpetrator
that very often yes they want to know what investigators know they want to trace and track the investigation itself
because of many different reasons but one that we've pointed out in the past is they want to know maybe should I flee
now or not should I take off is now a good time to go live in Alaska right how hot is the hot tub right it's getting
pretty hot how hot is the hot tub this well-trained very intelligent unnamed detective he knew from his training that
if the perpetrators were in fact in the crowd they likely would have some kind of visible reaction to seeing these
items being taken into police possession this is now evidence yeah what if he like pulled out each item and went God
him got him well the detective decided he's going to like he's he's adding flare to
this he's he's purposely lifting every item up so it's well visible to the crowd that's Gathering and while he's
doing this he's watching the crowd to see if there is a reaction to which he says he spotted two men who became
visibly more and more agitated each time an item was bagged and tagged by the officers at one point he says the two
men in the crowd were pacing back and forth and sharing like these menacing looks at one another as they're seeing
some of these items pulled from the dumpster yeah cuz one of the guys is given the look of why did we take these
items you idiot not only that if you wonder like was it one guy's decision to dump these items in the dumpster right
and the other one's like I told you that was a bad idea now look where we're at it's the hot tub and it's getting hot
yeah too hot in the hot tub police then decide hey let's interview these two guys that we saw becoming visibly
agitated in the crowd right and eventually they learned the names of these men from Witnesses but also from
speaking with them the one witness who called in the information about the I'm going to rob the store this is where
they learn the name of Andrews and he is cited as being the one spe specifically to have told this
witness I want to rob the Hi-Fi shop and if anyone gets in my way I'm going to kill them after police arrested the
two the two guys from the crowd then we have a third man who comes forward and he turns himself into police and says
hey I'm here to talk to you about the Hi-Fi [Music] shop [Music] I want to thank everybody for joining us
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The episode recounts the 1974 Hi-Fi shop murders in Ogden, Utah, detailing the brutal attack and subsequent police investigation.

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