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individuals in custody which detectives believe may have been involved in the high-fi store robbery and murders those
three men are Dale Pierre William Andrews and Keith Roberts all living at the nearby Hill Air Force Base yeah two
of them they apprehended right and then one of them turned themselves in according to the papers Keith Roberts
turned himself in we don't know the details of that sometimes they issue an official statement looking for someone
and then that person turns themselves in because they feel like they have no other recourse but that's what the paper
State regardless of how it all came about it's time to get some more evidence in addition to what they
currently have which is witness statements and don't forget about the personal items of the victims that
belong to the victims that were found in a dumpster at the barracks where the men
live to be clear though just because those items were found in that dumpster does not directly tie any three of these
men to the crime itself yeah but I wonder at the scene do we have any fingerprints we should have DNA we know
that there was a rape that took place correct so it's it's 1974 who knows if they collected DNA or
not at the time but to further that we do have and and I was going to kind of save this for later in the game but
there is a statement from one of the victims that the perpetrators of this robbery were wearing gloves at the time
right but what we will have and this is going to be significant we have a search
warrant that is issued for the barracks where all three of the men live there police found flyers for the Hi-Fi
shop you know like sale flyers and advertisements for merchandise at the store but what is truly going to seal
the deal when it came to bringing up actual murder charges and robbery charges against these guys it was during
this search that law enforcement found a rental contract for a unit at a local storage facility it's my understanding
that not only is this found in their possession but at least one of the men signed the actual contract so the
storage unit was being rented by them well this unit was pretty close to the Hi-Fi store so what this is going to be
here is going to be another quick phone call get another search warrant but this
time for the storage unit so following the issuance of said warrant a boatload or should I say two van loads amount of
stereo equipment was located inside this storage unit very soon later using the serial numbers on the merchandise it was
confirmed that all of it came from the store and was stolen on the night of the murders also recovered from the storage
unit was a half empty bottle of dro yeah that's just horrifying cuz we know the details with the collection of this
evidence these young men were charged with with murder and aggravated robbery some interesting things here
Captain some of the reports say that the police believe that more individuals were involved in the robbery SL theft of
these items but these three men all of them Airmen in the Air Force living at the nearby Hill Air Base were the only
persons ever arrested and ever charged in this case yeah it's I mean it's confusing one that these individuals
would sign up to serve and protect our freedoms mhm and then they would go off and do a crime like this and commit
murders like this and you have eyewitnesses that place two vehicles at the scene so is it possible that police
believe that these crimes happen and maybe just two men are responsible for the attacks and the murders why there's
another set of guys that were also stealing stuff yeah and I think we'll we'll tear through that as we go along
here because that's what this second half will be is really a deep dive into the details of the crime itself who did
what and possibly even why and you reference you know why these guys would sign up for to protect our freedoms of
this great country and then carry out these horrific murders and I'm not saying that this in
fact applies here I don't know it to be the case one way or another so I want to
please do not hear what I'm not saying but what right but one thing you know and I get I get these great emails from
so many great people out there and they say Nick why are you constantly referencing old cases that you guys have
covered or other cases that you have some knowledge of and it's for the simple fact that detectives FBI
investigating agencies one thing that they do is they rely on their experiences and past studies from
Criminal behavior and they apply it to their current investigations so that's why we constantly do that here in the
garage it's a true crime discussion we're talking True Crime my comment on why these guys would sign up to protect
us and then they carried out these crimes again I don't know it to be the case here but one thing I know about a
lot of older cases especially from the 60s and 70s when you see young individuals young men that are 18 19 20
years old and they're committing these terrible crimes and they were in the army or the Navy and people were going
how did the Army not catch this guy you know that that he's some right killing lunatic how did they let this guy sign
up for the Navy or for the Army I found in a lot of cases that you could go before a judge when you were 17 years
old and you committed some minor offense and part of your defense to get a a lesser sentence or to get a light slap
on the wrist was to say my intentions are right after high school I'm signing up for the Army I'm sign signing up for
the Navy it's it's no question that everybody receives discipline by going and signing up for and serving right you
you become more mature wiser and disciplined and a lot of times judges see that as a way of you know we are or
should be first and foremost in the position of wanting to rehabilitate offenders that can be rehabilitated and
so I don't mind that method so much I don't know that it happened here but it brings up the good question of did it I
think more important is and I had a little hard time figuring this out why the higher number most Reports say that
police at some point thought maybe five or even six people total were believed to have been involved in the commission
of these crimes well think about you get two Vans you have drivers in each van and then you have two individuals taking
stuff mhm that would be a total of six right and I think a lot of this stems from another St story that came out that
it is believed that involved the three individuals that are currently in custody in this high-fi case that they
along with three other males went into a different stereo shop in another town near closing time and the owner says he
believed the six of these men were behaving strangely and I don't know if there was a confrontation but there was
no robbery there was no attack that went down right and so my thought is maybe that this story really just kind of went
with police going well think about it too it's 1974 the size of stereo equipment is much different in 74 than
it is today it's huge and very likely they used both of those vans that were seen at the scene to transport all of
this stereo equipment that they had to H they had to rent a storage facility to store it there
this was like 24 to $25,000 worth of stereo equipment yeah well maybe when they went
to this other location if they did and depending on how this store owner reacted or how many
employer how many employees were there at the time it might have deterred them from trying to commit the crime that
night the thing that I think is troubling to say for certain if there were five or six individuals involved
the three that they they have in custody it's my understanding that none of them
confessed to anything they had to take them to trial and try each one of these individuals and see if they can convict
them so it's not like a situation where we have people rolling over on one another and turning in other people to
to um lessen their sentence let's say well I think I I do believe that the the driver turned on the other two a little
bit but because wasn't inside the building I don't think there was much a ton of evidence that he could give them
well if he never entered the building other than the two offenders telling him what they did he would have no
information to offer up as to what happened inside the building or specifically in that basement anyway
right but what we do know this is really interesting there were some further findings here in this case and the these
are very specific so it was eventually learned that Pierre and Andrews that they got the idea of making the hostage
drink Drano from a scene in a movie the movie was called magnum force and it was
the sequel to the movie Dirty hary the movie Dirty hary has its own ties to True Crime as many people out there know
as the psychopathic killer in the movie known as Scorpio well the movie Drew upon the
real life case of the Zodiac Killer in some of the creation of ideas for that movie is that the go ahead Punk make my
day is that the one I I believe it is yes okay well if anybody wants to cast me in a roll they can just go to True
Crime garage.com and email me in the first so this would be the first magnum force was the first of several sequels
the movie Magnum Force there is a scene where a woman is forced to drink Dro and
in that scene she immediately dies so Pierre and Andrews apparently thought that it would
be a good way to kill any of their likely hostages it would be quick it would be
silent it would be a good method if they had to kill somebody in the commission of this
robbery however Magnum for is a movie and not real life uhhuh Drano for those that do not know is an industrial
strength drain cleaner used primarily for unclogging drains when the victims were forced to
drink this their mouths and throat began to burn very very badly almost instantly the victims therefore screamed
in pain this made the As salant attempt to tape the host's mouths shut to silence the victims however this again
because of the dro would not work either this is because the dro almost immediately caused blistering and
blisters to form in the mouths and the throats of the victims their lips and skin around their mouths began to peel
off but they but these guys didn't bring the dro with them that's another argument why is it an
argument because because if they brought it with them that would show premeditation
correct okay so when when all of this is occurring not only do we have like skin
that's peeling off but we also have pus that's oozing from the blisters and all of this then makes it impossible for the
asants to tape the victim's mouths shut or to silence them in this manner again like I said it looks like they didn't
roll on one another or anyone else the question then becomes if there was anyone else involved did the
police did they never discover the identity of these people never know the names or did they was it a situation
where they had an idea of who but couldn't get the evidence to match it heck it's difficult to say if Keith
Roberts was even offered a deal to talk or testify against anyone specifically Andrews and Pierre because that's who
might be willing to deal who you you know law enforcement might be willing to deal with out of the three in
custody now in regards to two of the three arrested I do know from newspaper reports that William Andrews said he was
seeking a public defender and Pierre said he already had counsel because he had been charged with auto theft a few
months earlier and because of that charge he already had an attorney fighting for him in that at
charge so let's get to the trial here Captain jury selection began in the fall of 1974 in
Farmington notice we didn't say Ogden right in Farmington they moved the trial from Ogden because of all of the
publicity this would end up being one of the fastest turnarounds I can recall but
you have to keep in mind back then when you had a really horrible crime that really just devastates everyone right
they move faster they move a little bit faster so which I which I think maybe we
could learn something from I think that's something that we could do better and in the justice system now I think
both ways you know what I mean like I feel like back then specifically this case moved along a little too fast for
my liking okay but I also see some cases nowadays that seem to drag on way too long for my liking right okay so when
you have a really horrible crime you know we said devastates everyone this crime Captain to say that this
devastated Ogden is a huge huge understatement this was a shock to everyone of course on the local level at
the state level and nationally and when this happens we're talking about things how they may have
worked in 1974 they are ready to go to trial as soon as the prosecutor says we've built a case and we're ready to
proceed it also helps from a disc and evidentiary standpoint there was only one event right there was only one event
here that encompasses everything all in contrast to something like the Golden State killer who's also known as ears or
ons the original nightstalker case right there are so many different events that
when Joseph James D'Angelo was arrested back in April of 2018 here we are 2 years later and still
waiting on on the trial and that's what I mean it's it's a bit of a pisser right when you have a
case like that when you have this old dude who will not admit to anything that he did and he's one of the worst people
ever to walk this planet it's it's hard to to call him a person yeah but if he is truly absolute animal guilty of all
the things he's being accused of the real kick in the nuts here for the public is this guy won't admit to any
he doesn't want to he clearly doesn't want to be convicted of anything he's not like BTK
where BTK comes out and he's almost proud of his killings and says this is what I did and this is how I did it no
this guy he says sit down let me tell you a story this guy is fully ready to die and not give his victims that are
still alive many of his victims that are still alive that little piece of some kind of closure oh he's a real piece
piece of [ __ ] now I will say in the defense of the court system out there in California that I do believe that
covid-19 has affected the start date for that trial because I remember reading in
January of 2020 that the judge was saying look defense team for D'Angelo you've you've
drag this thing out long enough we're going to bring this to trial and I think he put a date on on the end of April
2020 and of course we know the the whole world changed between January and April
of this year yeah it's been the worst year I think I've been alive yeah I mean it's been a very tough
year number one I heard a joke the the other day which I I found to be one kind of funny but also kind of smart that
said the the two the two smartest Americans in the world left the world took off into outer space but so I guess
if you really want to compare this to to a more modernday case I would compare it
to the Cheshire murders which we covered back in Halloween of 2017 EP episodes 154 155 it was a home invasion and the
murders took place in June of 2007 and the trials didn't go down until one was in September of 201 10 and the other was
the following year in September of 2011 that was the case where the the husband was in the basement he was he was asleep
on the couch they knocked him out tied him up in the basement it's weird because that case mirrors the Hi-Fi
murders case quite a bit when you think about it right because you had the the dad in this situation the Hi Five
murders get loose and and try to get to help yeah and both of them you have the perpetrators from from what we can what
we can deduce from both of these crimes is it appears that both sets of perpetrators understood that there were
going to be people inside the one the residents one inside the shop that they were going to have to
control and do something with or to while they robed The Joint so that for me is a very similar cases and of course
that case they were seeking capital punishment those were capital punishment trials and that's what we would see in
the high-fi murders as well so this is going to be a joint trial which I'm not a I'm not a real big fan of I I really
feel like I hate them I really feel like everybody should be tried kind of individually because I think that there
are there are some people that are more guilty than others in the commission of some of these crimes especially when
we're talking about murders especially when we're talking about the death penalty cases and I almost feel like
some of the Lesser guilty Maybe are guilty but the Lesser guilty people get lumped in with the more guilty and that
doesn't seem to be fair to this garage idiot well and because in this case we have multiple crimes right we have theft
we have we have taking over the building so we have hostages we have uh again we
have three individuals not all three are involved in all those we have the rape and then we have the attempted
murders and the murders right and you have to separate who did what and when and then and how responsible is each
person for what they did themselves or what they were a part of you know just being there right so from my
understanding here Captain we have again a joint trial all three Pierre Andrews and Roberts are charged with
first-degree murder and robbery and the trial began on October 15th 1974 during the trial it was revealed
that Pierre and Andrews had robbed the store with the intention of killing anyone they came across Survivor Orin
Walker was the star witness for the prosecution Orin took the stand and told the jury how Pierre and Andrews Pierre
actively was determined to kill everyone in the store his testimony was by far in
a way the most damning to all of the defendants Pierre and Andrews especially here we have a guy that suffered and
somehow survived an attack that he can give firsthand knowledge of and recount the murders of three and injuries and
how they happened to himself and Courtney Nisbet well and the torture that took place yeah the thing here
captain that is going to be a real real bad problem for Pierre and Andrews one is the fact that that we have the test
testimony from Orin that Michelle begged and begged and begged for her life that
she pleed pleaded with them not to kill her this is after she was brutally raped
we also have the fact that all said all of the victims that are tied up saying hey just take anything you want but
don't kill us please don't kill us you can take anything you want so what what this is pointing out we are not talking
about a robbery where any one of the victims is going that's giving any Ty of resistance at all right none of these
victims are making anything more difficult for these robbers they're compliant it's like you've said in many
cases if the intent was just to steal this stereo equipment you had no resistance so obviously that you could
have done that that wasn't your intent because you murdered these individuals and tortured these individuals and it's
reminiscent of what we talked about a few weeks ago right with Paul John nolles an individual who who was robbing
people stealing their vehicles sometimes stealing their identities taking their money their personal
possessions it appears that very few of his murder victims and it's believed that he killed a lot of people very few
of them even knew who he was meaning he could have just taken their items and left but he decided that he had to kill
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break we were talking about the problems the damning testimony coming from Orin Walker telling everybody hey this is
what went down during the commission of these crimes this is how these people were killed and by whom we
also have further testimony from Warren that we didn't get to and this is going to be very troubling especially for
Pierre because Orin is on the stand and he's saying look Pierre returned to me twice to make sure that I was dead right
and when he still Found Me Alive the first time he strangled me with a cord then he leaves again and then the next
time he returns with a flashlight to assist him in taking my pulse to see if I have a pulse and when he discovers
that I do have one I'm still alive Pierre once again tries his best to end My Life by jamming a pen into my ear and
kicking it and stomping on it until the back over those details again that it broke through and we know that it went
through into orin's throat in my mind captain no doubt Pierre thought that the pen busted through into the brain right
and it was only then that he thought the deed was done and did not feel the need
anymore to check the man for a pulse yeah so is really the testimony of this Survivor of this this
victim that is going to help seal the deal here now due to his Amnesia suffered from the many many
injuries that were part of the commission of these murders and robbery Byron Courtney
Nesbit was unable to testify he's got you know he he does have memories of the crimes but during the trial itself he
was unable to testify yeah just one month after the start of the trial this is on November 16th Pierre and Andrews
were convicted of all charges and Roberts the third man was convicted of only robbery 4 days later
Pierre and Andrews were sentenced to death let's just go back to that for a minute because the driver what they were
able to find out is that yes he drove the vehicle there but he never went inside so he not only did he not witness
what happened so he wouldn't have been able to stop it because he didn't witness it but I don't think they even
told him what they did when they left so he didn't even have knowledge of of those crimes well and according to our
two surviving victims what their statements have always been is they believe that the
majority or all of the merchandise that was stolen from the store was removed before anybody was killed right so
Roberts was sentenced to 5 Years to Life five years to life imprisonment for his
his involvement in these crimes the other thing here that I want to point out Captain is a really tricky detail in
all of this the men that committed these crimes were they're not idiots right these are these are
relatively intelligent men their acts in in criminal behavior is is disgusting but one thing that I've always had
trouble with this especially with Pierre with this individual Pierre well they're
capable of being in the Air Force they broke into the Hi-Fi shop shortly before it
closed you didn't have to have any victims is what I keep returning to yeah you could have they're they're
relatively intelligent individuals they could have they could have easily anyone
you know there even us two garage idiots could go you know what it might be better for us to break into the stereo
store hold on after they close well hold on a second I'm looking around looking around the garage like we could use a
new stereo just saying but but no no but I I think it's almost like Pierre used this as like I can get some people to
come along with me to help me steal some stereo equipment but that's not what I'm
doing this for I'm actually doing it because I want to kill somebody I'm actually doing it because I want to rape
somebody to me it feels like a double whammy situation you know the I think he wanted to do more than
just Rob the place like you said right now the Hi-Fi murders are still regarded as one of the worst criminal acts ever
committed in the state of Utah the FBI Academy at quanico actually teaches trainees about the case specifically the
story of the detective in front of the crowd removing pieces of Articles of you know the the
purses the wallet personal items from the victim removing those in front of the crowd in 1982 a book by Gary kinder
titled victim the other side of murder was released originally Kinder was going to write a an In Cold Blood style book
that would focus on Dale Selby Pierre the murderer Kinder exchanged over 200 letters with the convicted killer and
even visited him several times at the Utah State Prison Pierre turned on Kinder in 1980 when Kinder refused to
sign over 10% of the books proceeds to Pierre looks like Pierre thought he could capitalize on the murders even
from behind Prison Walls this prompted kinder to change directions completely and focus on the
victim on one of the victims Courtney Nesbit and the effect the Hi-Fi murders had on him and his family Kinder set up
a trust for Courtney based on a percentage of the book and film rights and the case became the basis for the
1991 CBS TV movie titled aftermath a test of Love well and they're going to talk about the whole Drano situation as
well whether they brought it or not and what I believe that Pierre claims is that when he was using the restroom he
saw the Drano there and that's when he decided to make the victims drink the Drano yeah so I couldn't find what the
original trial defense was set up what what their whole story was right but what I could find was what we have is a
a later appeals proceeding or appeals hearing I don't know the exact terminology for it
basically what we have is Pierre is nearing the execution date he was sentenced to
death and they're going to have a hearing to give the opportunity of maybe we can commute this to a life sentence
at which Pierre speaks and he says the Drano I went to use the restroom during the robbery I saw the Drano there I put
two and two together and thought I would use it on the victims the problem you have with that is we do know at the
original trial or in Walker's testimony was that at some point after everybody was tied up one of the men he heard one
of the men say to the other man to go get something from the van outside right and that is when one of the men returned
to the basement with this liquid all of a sudden that they were supposed to be drinking then we have this other matter
that I think we should get to before we wrap things up here today yeah but can we just stay on that for just one second
I believe even if you know from what we've seen and what we've talked to lawyers and stuff you're at this scene
and you decide that you're going to make them drink this liquid this poison just the thought that it you know
to pour it into cups or however you're going to have them drink it or if they're going to this is enough time to
to constitute as premeditation so I it doesn't matter to me if you brought it with you or you
didn't like you know to argue those little details to try to get it reduced to life a life sentence doesn't make a
lot of sense to me well and it would be quite the coincidence to have a completely different person saying I
saw two of the perpetrators watching Magnum Force where this woman is forced to drink some kind of liquid or drao in the
movie and she dies immediately and I hear them discussing the the scene in the movie
right that's that's quite the coincidence now could it have gone down exactly as Pierre said maybe who knows
no we we weren't there we don't know for certain and aurin never says specifically that he heard the one man
say to the other go get the Drano from the van or go get blah blah blah from the van he doesn't specify what it is
that he hears the man asked to go get from the drain or from the van but regardless like you said Captain there
is a certain level of premeditation in either scenario if Pierre wants to diminish it to maybe get him a chance at
life imprisonment instead of of the death penalty I mean I can I can understand pulling out all stops and and attempting
anything during that hearing but the other thing we should discuss too is that there was another
murder okay this took place on October 5th 1973 police responded to a homicide this
is at the apartment of Air Force Sergeant Edward Jefferson who was stationed at the Hill Air Force Base
just south of Ogden It is believed that Jefferson was murdered in his sleep he was found on his couch wearing a set of
thermal underwear and his hands were still folded across his chest within days police had a possible suspect but
they only knew this man as Dale from the West Indies as they continued to interview persons close to the victim
they figured out that Dale from the West Indies was likely 20-year-old Airman Dale Pierre from witness statements here
is the theory that they piece together less than a week before the murder several people friends if you will were
at Sergeant Jefferson's apartment hanging out Jefferson's key ring with the keys to his vehicle and apartment
turn up missing everyone there helps Jefferson to search the apartment for the keys but
they never turn up the next day Dale Pierre returned to the apartment and while he's there He
suggests hey let's search the apartment again to look for the keys this time the
keys magically turn up Jefferson was very suspicious and did a little investigation of his own Jefferson
learned that Pierre took his keys to the Air Force bases lockmith and using a fake name Curtis
Alexander he had duplicates made of the key Jefferson confronted Pierre about this 2
Days Later Jefferson is found dead on his couch in his own living room the killer this is what police could piece
together the killer had placed a pillow over Jefferson's face and drove a bayonet through his face oh my God
killing him instantly with the first blow however that was not enough to feed the Rage of the killer because the
killer drove the bayonet through Jefferson's face repeatedly ly the blade went all the way through his brain and
the hilt of the weapon fractured his skull the detectives believe that the killer enjoyed committing this murder
and that is why he drove the bayonet through this man's face over and over again police were certain that Dale
Pierre was Sergeant Jefferson's killer but they never had enough evidence to bring him to trial or to make an
official arrest well those that's one of those cases you know hindsight you're going to go well maybe the case doesn't
get solved and maybe we can't put all the pieces together but now that we have him connected with these horrible
murders you kind of go well that case is kind of solved then you kind of wonder what else if you know after you know
about the high-f five murders what else is this guy capable of and it doesn't seem like there capable of anything yeah
that there's any limits to that now Dale Selby Pierre some of the Articles and stories you
find about this guy there are variations of his name and that is because once he
was in prison Pierre changed his name more than 20 times in fact one report I saw said 27 times he says that this is
because he was trying to spare his family embarrassment and hostility from the community now Dale Selby Pierre was
executed on August 28th 1987 he was the first person in the state of Utah to be executed by way of
lethal injection there was a brilliant article by Jerry Spangler in the Desiree news and these executions are very hard
to report on because there is such a mixed bag of emotions and opinions on the death penalty itself and rightfully
so parts of the article read calmly Dale Selby Pierre blink linked his eyes and licked his lips he took deep breaths his
eyes fixed on the bright lights above his head he wiggled his toes and muttered a quiet prayer as the toxic
chemicals dripped relentlessly into his bloodstream one of Utah's most notorious
Killers calmly closed his eyes and slipped quietly into death there was no anger no protest no violence from him
sel's death was in marked contrast to the hours long torture slayings of three people in the basement of an Ogden
stereo shop there was no protest from Selby now I'm saying Selby because in this article
that's the name that they are using when he changed his name Captain most of the
time he was his birth name from my understanding is Dale Selby Pierre when he changed his name he
really just moved around those three three names yeah so there was no pre protest from Pierre but outside there
were some 200 demonstrators many of them opponents of the death penalty but some
of them very much for the death penalty you have to keep in mind though too there were some people who are pro death
penalty for very specific situations and not many others I think likely that could have been the case here with
several in the crowd that were all for it the death penalty opponents sang songs like we shall overcome and Amazing
Grace while Pro death penalty demonstrators saying poor Selby poor son of a gun he's going to die one man wore
pencils on his head going into his ears a like a variation of the fake arot trick right he carried a can of
Drano yeah it was intended to make the point representing an eye for an eye Dale Selby Pierre was pronounced dead
shortly after 1:00 a.m. he was 34 years old Pierre requested that the $29 in his commissary account be left to
his friend William Andrews Dale Selby Pierre was the first person executed in the state of Utah since Utah executed
Gary Gilmore on January 17th 1977 so roughly 10 years between these two executions
oddly enough Captain one could say that Gary Gilmore was executed for indiscriminate felony murder as well he
too committed armed robbery and both times killed the person working at the establishments that he robbed right
Gilmore chose the firing squad method and when asked on the morning of January 17th 1977 if he had any last words he
simply replied let's do it William Andrews was executed by the state of Utah using
lethal injection on July 30th 1992 his last meal was a banana split that he shared with his sister and niece
during their final visit at the execution and just before Andrews did not discuss the three murders he was
sentenced to Die For in a final statement he said thank you to those who tried so hard to keep me alive
this was very controversial I mean they're trying to get his death sentence reduced to life for a while yes so going
into that Andrew's always stuck to his story that he was with Pierre that he did help take each victim captive and
Rob the store but he did not physically by his own hand kill any of the three murder victims whether you agree with
that or not what we stated from the beginning of the trials was this is one of the problems I have and I
think you have with trying trying people together yeah but then on top of that you I mean you have all kinds of other
issues with this I mean Orin it doesn't sound like he's 100% on who did what I mean keep in mind he's in a lot of pain
he's tied up he's he's face down on a basement floor but it seems like he is of the belief too that Pierre is the one
that was responsible for all of the murders and most of the actual physical torture and then later we have Courtney
nebit who survived but could not testify because of Amnesia what he does seem to remember or
believes that he remembers according to the book victim is he says that he remembers hearing the two men arguing
either upstairs or in another part of the basement over what to do with the victims and that it was decided that
they were going to kill kill them but Andrews is saying I can't do it to which Pierre then says I'll take care of it
give me 30 minutes but again that's that's the troubling thing here where is the line
because obviously if that ex is exactly what took place Andrews didn't stop Pierre from going in the other room and
attempting to kill five people yeah so in that and you helped make the decision right you decided to bring guns to the
scene you may have helped to decide to bring Dro to the scene there's a whole long list of of offenses here now in his
final statement as said he said thank you to those who tried so hard to keep me alive you pointed out yes because
this was controversial at the time still is controversial I hope they continue to
fight for Equal justice After I'm Gone tell my family goodbye and I love them a prison official asked him this has been
a long haul for for you hasn't it to which Andrews replied yes I'm actually very tired yeah it's very uh very tragic
case Keith Roberts who was just 19 at the time of the murders he was the getaway driver and it was in fact
determined at the trial that he had no role in nor knowledge of the murders he was convicted of two counts of
aggravated robbery Roberts was paroled in May of 1987 after nearly 13 years in prison I
have seen some different reports out there but because I cannot verify for certain I'll report what seems to be the
general consensus of reporting and that is that Keith Roberts moved to the state
of Oklahoma after his parole right it does not appear that he got into any further trouble with the law and it does
look like he passed away back in 1992 Orin Walker the star witness at the trial of the men convicted for the Hi-Fi
murders and robbery passed away in February of 2000 at the age of 69 and then 28 years after the brutal Hi-Fi
murders that shocked Utah Byron Courtney Nesbit one of only two survivors in the
1974 torture murder Rampage died at the young age of 44 Courtney died in Seattle after a long
and undis closed illness Courtney was shot in the head and left for dead during the commission
of those crimes he suffered throughout his life from disabilities from being tortured in the stereo shop his father
Dr Byron Nesbit declined for comment only saying this is the end of the Hi-Fi story I want this to be the
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The episode details the Hi-Fi murders, suspects' capture, trial outcomes, and the brutal nature of the crimes committed in 1974.

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Hi-Fi Store Robbery and Murders. Three individuals are in custody for a shocking robbery and murder case.
Drano Horror in the Crime. The perpetrators used Drano to silence their victims, leading to horrifying consequences.
The Damning Testimony. Survivor Orin Walker's testimony reveals the brutal intent of the attackers.

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