The Case of Virginia Rappe | Episode 323 | Morbid: A True Crime Podcast | Forensic Files

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point every second and sometimes we gotta step away from it and just talk about uh Caleb you know okay but I know
that we're seven minutes in but like you remember who we were as people in the beginning can I just can you quickly
touch upon that um Tick Tock that you showed me with the mummies oh yeah okay let me bring up her name because you
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that was playing but don't be sorry that's a great song so there is a Creator on Tick Tock um her name is
horror goth mommy which is for and her at there is Jamie j a m i e 13 the number 13 [ __ ] okay so follow her
because she does really good videos on all kinds of spooky [ __ ] um and I believe she has a podcast as
well and I will link it I was gonna say if you go to her actual page it might be
in her like a link tree or something yeah it could be or but we'll link it I don't know I'll link it and then we'll
we'll say it on the podcast like next exact next episode just in case you missed the show notes I'll make sure to
give her her do because she's I'm gonna pretty rad I'm gonna be honest but she did a video
um where apparently and this is like just wild a bunch so 250 Egyptian sarcophagi have been dug up
yeah um hundreds of Bronze Statues were found with them um like relics relics just artifacts
they found um two statues of the goddesses is Isis and naftus which were like put at the
head and feet of the sarcophagi and the protection protect them which like oof yeah don't remove those guys there was
also a roll of Papyrus found that was like 32 feet long um and according to Jamie they're being
like um it's being like studied in a lab right now but it could have parts of the
Book of the Dead in it which is like not good and like let's not [ __ ] with things
like that she was saying how you know in Egypt that is like grave robbing and disturbing the the dead and especially a
pharaoh she said exactly is one of the worst things you can do and one of the only things that could be punishable by
death choosing so this is like real bad and like I don't know why we keep doing this I understand that we want to learn
about [ __ ] like I get it as [ __ ] there's a way of going about it that is not this
that's the thing I it's just you don't need to disturb grapes yeah it's there's I understand like history
and I understand we have to learn about history I understand it's fascinating to
learn about like cultures from like thousands and thousands of you because these are like two thousand three
thousand years old yeah but it's like eek and it's and it's like especially when this particular culture has made it
pretty known how they feel about grave robbing and yeah not that we're good I don't know
grave robbers and it's like either way disturbing the dead you know like some cultures didn't think that that was too
that big of a deal like when you die you die and that's fine like disturb the grave take a peek like that's something
that think that but when one is like very clear clear like there's laws about it that's when it gets hairy but yeah
that was just like a wild thing and I was like oh no this is why everything sucks because like curses are probably
being just like flooded into the world right like watch The Mummy there's how many is it they're like there's a four
at least they're like three movies about this all I know is that I saw the mummy
way too young and I only saw one of them because that movie [ __ ] me right up I
only saw the first one because the first one was great I never saw the other ones
it was scary the first one was really really great yeah scary if you're like seven or eight though yeah yeah I could
buy but like but like cool but like very cool yeah but yeah so we have that to look forward to that's about as as true
crime news as I'm going to get this week but yeah and I think you know we're 12 minutes in yeah
so it was great catching up with you guys you know every once in a while we gotta just catch up we gotta do it
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be talking about the case of Fatty Arbuckle yeah we are and Virginia rapid I do want to give a little warning about
this uh episode it is going to be talking about possible rape okay um and it gets pretty intense so if
that's not something that you're comfortable listening to I completely understand and we'll see you for a
spooky episode later Day After Tomorrow exactly and also just another note um a lot of times I feel like any case
that I've listened to or any um episode that I've listened to about this like he's called fatty but he didn't like
being called fat oh really and he was acquitted for this crime I don't know if he did it either way but I don't want to
call somebody fatty that didn't want to be called that okay so interchangeably I'm gonna say Roscoe and Arbuckle
depending on what I wrote in that paragraph I love that just so everybody knows and you're not confused thank you
for setting it up so Roscoe Arbuckle was born on March 24th 1887 in a small Kansas town his parents were Molly and
William Goodrich and they were of Scottish descent and by the time they had him they already had uh eight other
kids okay many many children he was the youngest and when he was born it was like kind of a scandal oh because he was
born depending on the source weighing between 13 and 16 pounds damn you've given birth so um please
just imagine that for us no I won 13 to like either with 13 and 16 are essentially like the same to me in a
baby I mean not actually if it was 16. oh my goodness oh my goodness that's like I don't I don't know what wasted my
biggest baby was eight pounds you're so cute yeah but the thing was both of his parents had like a slim
build oh and so did all of the other children up until this point and there was eight of them so they were like oh
okay so his father William was absolutely convinced that Molly had stepped out on him oh no and not the
baby was somebody else's in fact that's actually how Roscoe got his name his father was so pissed and angry over the
possibility that this kid wasn't his and to him it wasn't even a possibility he was like no you're not my kid so he
instead of like taking it on the chin he decided to take his anger out on this newborn baby and name him after after a
Republican senator that he absolutely despised called Roscoe conkling are you kidding me yeah so
um Roscoe Arbuckle his middle name was conkling just like this guy are you what how do you
how do you kid what is wrong that's the thing like we're weird coping sir yeah ridiculous now Molly had a really hard
time after Roscoe's birth too because again this is the um 1800s and she just gave birth to a like 13 to 16 pound baby
yeah that's gonna take a toll on your physical health yeah I would say so so incredibly traumatic birth and for the
rest of her life she struggled with health complications I believe it pretty much I would say because of this and she
died 12 years later oh and at that point William the father cut Roscoe off immediately oh my God he's 12 years old
12 years old and he was like cool make your own way in life oh my God so since he had to support himself now Roscoe got
a job at a local hotel and he was kind of just doing like maintenance jobs anything they really had for him to do
he was like well I'm 12. I'll do it yeah so he loved to sing while he was working
so the patrons of the hotel would always hear him no no maybe they'd give him like a dime or something yeah maybe that
was too expensive I'm not sure I feel like I don't know what a dime was back then who knows but one day there was
actually a professional singer staying at the hotel hell and they heard Roscoe singing and they were so impressed with
his skill like so impressed that they invited him to sing at this local talent show now Roscoe he went along and he did
a little singing he did a little dancing and that didn't really like do the trick
for the audience they were they weren't really feeling it so he kind of started to like act out the song a little bit
kind of like a clown in a clown manner yeah getting goofy with it the audience wasn't impressed with that either and
now this was like the kind of show where if the audience like booed or heckled or
just like made no noise the person on stage would be pulled off with like with a cane with a little boat oh my God I
guess the real name is a Shepherd a shepherd's crook yeah but I wanted to I wanted to paint a picture for you yeah
since the audience is booing in heckling heckling excuse me Roscoe saw the crook
coming from the corner of his eye and instead of letting it pull him off stage he was like [ __ ] that
he I don't know why but decided to do a somersault off the stage lands in the orchestra pit and The Crowd Goes [ __ ]
wild who doesn't love like physical comedy they do and apparently that was like his thing he was like because he
was a bigger dude he was like very big stature but he was so Nimble and like graceful like he would do these
somersaults and land on his feet or like I love it fall down but in a weird graceful way like it was it was weird so
as he tumbled off stage they lost it they were doubling over with laughter and they actually voted him to win the
competition oh my God yeah because of his somersault because that's somersault man so that night pretty much started
his career in Vaudeville now we've talked about Vaudeville before but maybe you're a first time listener welcome we
love a Vaudeville and if you're unfamiliar with the term Vaudeville originated in France pretty much right
after the start of the 20th century and it was this type of theater where the actors would sing they dance they do
kind of comedy acts they were really like light heart attack yeah like very physical comedy acts right yes very much
so they were always lighthearted they were always comedy centered which makes sense because Vaudeville originates from
the French word and I'm really trying here but I'm new so I'm new to French I'm new to French not really I've been
working on it for a while but it's hard you give it a try vodvir I believe and that means satirical song oh there you
go so the first songs of that kind of nature they were written actually in the 15th century by a man named Olivier
basilan and he lived in the Valley of Fire so when anybody would refer to the songs they were called songs of the
Valley of Fire but then eventually shortened to vodveer oh okay just for a little history moment I like that I like
that a lot the dudes from um Wizard of Oz like all Alma dudes were vaudevillians oh [ __ ] I really played
like you know all the the lion the Tin Man yeah our Dorchester kids a dog testing are DOT kids a dog kids yes
um no hot no hot so sad so Ross I Wonder If they met probably not because I don't
think that timeline matches up probably not but you know what whatever anyways Roscoe's first part in a
Vaudeville show was with the Webster Brown stock company and from then until about 1913 when he turned 26 he was
doing all kinds of stage acting he would do acrobatics he docked as a clown of course he would sing for the audience
but his really first like good paying job came when he was 17 years old and he was hired by a man named Sid grahman to
sing at the unique theater in San Jose California and for this he would get about 18 bucks a week today that would
be like 580 bucks a week and I can promise you that I wasn't making that at 17 years ago definitely not so I'd say
that's a pretty good gig oh yeah now the last time that he appeared on stage though was 1913 in Japan in that part he
played the role of Mikado or the emperor of Japan okay now after that he goes back to Hollywood he gets a job at Max
Senate's Keystone film studio and then that was a huge upgrade because now he was made taken about 40 bucks a week
damn which today would be like making 1200 bucks a week damn pretty nice yeah now strangely enough for like the the
first like three and a half years there he didn't get any leading roles or features he would just kind of be in the
background like as an uncredited actor and he would always play the role of a policeman
no they I think they just were like you make that look about him you make a great cop
but so the thing was it was like that was kind of like a weird point in his career because he wasn't like the
leading man but it would kind of allow him to meet some of the biggest names in Hollywood at the time I don't know if
you've heard of uh Charlie Chaplin no never heard of him no no well Arbuckle did oh well that's good at
least someone did he met Charlie on Simon Charlie and he also met Mabel Normand and Ford Sterling and I guess
his films with Mabel always did the best she was God so it's Mabel you know they
were just some fan faves now Not only was uh Arbuckle a good actor on camera he also was pretty good behind the
camera and throughout his career he would work with like big name directors a lot and he actually worked with this
guy named Henry Lerman a lot to the point where he only did two movies where Henry wasn't the director wow he really
loved him so Henry started teaching Roscoe all about what went into making a movie and over time Roscoe started
learning more and more about getting involved in the behind the scenes kind of stuff and then the films that he was
appearing in he was also doing director stuff as well so he was in both parts look at him and in 1914 he started
directing his own movies get it and like I said in the beginning one thing that he absolutely hated was the the nickname
that he was given by Hollywood they always called him fatty like constantly and that was the name listed whenever he
got a film credit it was Fatty Arbuckle oh that must suck which is shitty he'll like that you know right but anywhere
else like if somebody yelled after him on set and they were like fatty he wouldn't turn around and answer oh like
it was Roscoe nothing I know it's sad yeah because you just assumed that that was something he like played into or
liked or right like he played into it but he had to well and the thing is he like he did but he didn't because he
never wanted his size to be the butt of a joke so all the physical physical comedy that he did like I said in the
beginning it was more like doing somersaults or falling down in a silly way but it was never something like
being stuck in a space because he was too big for it or anything like that and like I said a lot of people would
comment on how agile he was like very graceful guy yeah look at that now once 1917 came around he started working with
a very big name producer this guy I was Joseph M shank okay and he was the husband of Norma talmauge and they
decided to create a company together called Comic oh like call me Cal oh I like it but komik now the company not
only made him uh richer than he'd ever been but also allowed him to be involved in every single one of his roles from
start to finish the entire film and it was at that point that he started working with I don't know if you've
heard of this guy either Buster Keaton no none of these names are ringing a bell I know it's the craziest thing no
everybody if you are like into like this time you totally know that he was huge so since comic was doing really well
even more of the big name producers in Hollywood were starting to hear more about this Arbuckle character and
they're interested in working with him so among some of those big name producers were um Paramount Pictures oh
they approached him and they were like hey would you ever want to do some long movies instead of like the two real
shorts that you're doing right now because those were more just kind of like short films yeah you want to do
some of those long movies for those long reels and he was like I do and the first
feature film that he did with them was the Roundup it premiered in 1920 and audiences were obsessed they were in
love with this guy wow it was just like he must have had some kind of just like Star Quality like people were really
just they gravitated to him he had Charisma he did Charisma uniqueness nerve and talent there you go
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thousand dollars a day whoa at that time and on top of that he would get 25 of all the royalties from every movie he
did holy [ __ ] that was the starting deal but then they saw how well he was doing
and how well received these movies were now you get some leverage you get some leverage they bumped his salary up to
three million dollars for three years and 18 more movies holy [ __ ] and back I mean that's crazy now but for back then
uh you want to know what that would be like today I love a conversion so three million dollars back then would have
been like making 43 million dollars today wow 43 million buckaroons and when you think of like what like things cost
back then oh yeah like that that's why he was richer than yeah than yeah everybody so and he was one of the most
beloved actors of his time until September of 1921 when it all came crashing down I was waiting for the
downfall here there's always a downfall I don't know like anything about this neither did I this is brand new to me
neither did I but I love an old Hollywood case and this is like the old Hollywood case to be honest yeah it's
wild so and it's really devastatingly sad so it's Labor Day weekend and one of Roscoe or excuse me Roscoe and two of
his friends Fred fischbach and Lowell Sherman who were two very seedy disgusting characters unfortunately and
I think it it might be one of those things where it's like the company you keep reflects really badly on you or who
you hang with or it could be that like you are who you hang out with and you're also a creep I haven't made a complete
decision on what I think here okay but I'm sure listening you will and let me know what you think yeah so these three
guys they decide to go head out to San Fran for a long weekend and they're planning on throwing in absolute Banger
to celebrate the success of Roscoe's new movie Crazy to marry so they check into
the Saint Francis Hotel and they grab three rooms they grab 12 19 12 20 and 12 21. one would be used to party hardy and
the other would kind of be like bedrooms to crash in okay now remember these were
still prohibition times so they had to sneak in a [ __ ] ton of booze because they were going to be planning on having
a wild party and how did they hide those booths Roscoe had this like fancy schmancy car that had a hidden bar
inside oh my God stop like the prohibition of it all you pressed a button and like a [ __ ] bar pop yeah
like I want my card why doesn't my car have a hidden bar that's wild I feel remiss I mean I do think that's like
probably very illegal I was gonna say I can tell you a few reasons why your car doesn't have anything number one but
illegal so what do you think of it back then without like all the speakeasies and prohibitions and I didn't know there
was like a lot of bad [ __ ] back then like Greek Gatsby of it all kind of thing is very fun it's so oh wow that
was so much sunlight yeah you've just got sun right in your eyes did um it wiped my mind clear for a second
it was like the Men in Black like he was just gonna say that no it's funny though
that you said um Great Gatsby because all I could picture especially this part of like them driving up to the party was
them driving to the party in The Great Gatsby where um is it Mabel yeah and it's funny because there's a Mabel in
this hey look at that wild but anyway it's giving me those stuff so party there was going to be some of the
biggest stars and starlets of all time including one Virginia rapid Virginia rapid was a model an actress
and a fashion designer no it's not Mabel it's Myrtle oh murder that's why I was I
was confused because I was like wait no it's not Maple you know what's so funny I was like is there a map because I
heard Mabel when you mentioned her before and I was like oh yeah it's Mabel yeah sorry M names are hard there yeah
so Virginia that's not a them name that's easy to remember she was a model and actress a fashion designer she had
been born in Chicago oh my God and was raised by her mother Mabel whoa until she was about 11. but unfortunately that
was how young she was when her mom passed away and she it's so young but she was sent to live with her grandma
but she wasn't really too keen on staying in Chicago for the rest of her life just like all of these cases that I
cover she knew she was different she knows she has Star Quality she's also [ __ ] gorgeous Google a picture yeah
so when she's just what's her name Virginia Virginia rapid it's r-a-p-p-e and fun fact she actually added the
extra peony onto the end of her name because she thought it was fancier I think when she was born it was just rap
but she wanted rap hey I love that so she's 14 years old now she's like I gotta get out of Chicago I gotta make it
big so she starts posing for fashion designers and any artists who might need a muse now it was good practice for her
eventual plan of heading out to California to be discovered which she would set out to do when she turned 18.
but before making her way out to Hollywood she decided to trans just excuse me try out San Francisco for a
while and when she was there she met up with a designer named Robert Moskowitz he would be her first fiance and he
would teach her a ton about fashion but the engagement was short-lived because he was actually killed in a car accident
oh so sad it was like Whirlwind I was just gonna say that's like I know and it's sad because it's like she makes it
out there she meets this guy she starts getting into fashion they fall in love they're gonna get married and then it's
like it all comes crashing yeah then it's just all over so at that point she's like no like I'm not gonna let
this ruin me she decides to move once again and finally ends up where she planned on settling all along Hollywood
Hollywood Hollywood now you know I said this girl was Gorge so it was she was I just flicked her up
she's the epitome of beauty as far as anybody is concerned but specifically during this time in Hollywood she was
like the poster child of beauty yeah so it was not hard for her to find work she
had like these intense blue eyes this like beautiful dark hair impeccable style because remember she's a [ __ ]
fashion designer of course and she looked young enough to pass for 25 when really she was 30. get it but she would
always tell people those younger rolls she would tell them she was 25. now throughout her career she would end
up being featured in 13 movies and in some of those movies you're gonna love this she starred alongside Rudolph
Valentino I there's a photo of them together love Rudolph Valentino as do I but you yeah
one of my first research papers ever in school I did the most intense research paper on Rudolph Valentino I know
everything there is to know about that man I love that so much he was a beautiful man a beautiful
beautiful man yeah just so great so you're probably really jealous of that I am a little bit she started looking them
up right now and I'm like oh it's a picture of them in a car together all the pictures from like this time are so
cool oh get it girl now uh other than Rudolph Valentino she also actually did a wedding with Arbuckle and this was
called his wedding night now he apparently really took a liking to her According to some people during the
filming of this and I guess while they were filming this movie and this is hearsay so we don't know if this is true
or not but I guess while they were filming he wanted to quote unquote play a prank on her and he asked the security
guard for the key to her room but luckily the security guard like wouldn't give the key to the room he was like no
I cannot do that no but when you find out what happens later I think a lot of people were like did that have
ulterior motives which I can see now before we get there we just we need to know know that Virginia became known as
the best best dressed girl in pictures and she was also known as entrepreneurial idealistic and outspoken
I like for women's rights so she was a bad I was just gonna say so a bad [ __ ] is what you're saying she was the first
person to speak up about any causes close to her heart and they were nine out of 10 times women's right women's
rights causes good for her a bad B truly so she arrives at this party and it's I
just I'm gonna tell you right here this is where things start to get yucky and again if you don't want to listen to
that now is the time that I would really advise you to stop listening to Virginia
so she arrives at the party with her manager Al who's actually a really good friend of Roscoe's too Al semnocker and
her friend Bambina mod Delmont yeah yes sometimes Bambina mod Delmont wanted to be called Bambina mod Delmont but she
also had like other names and [ __ ] she was a shady [ __ ] oh man I mean I would
always want to be called Bambina mod Belmont Delmont oh Delmont excuse me I would she might have been known as
Belmont as well but oh I would be like always refer to me as that yeah never has just Bambina give me the full also I
didn't realize this until now but like three names I'm just saying you know what we say
about the three names she turns out to be quite quite truly something oh no so the trio they get to
the hotel around 10 30 that morning and by all accounts they got to partying real quick which like [ __ ] all the
power to them yeah you're gonna you might get caught you have a vision time you gotta party when you can and it's a
summer party like let's go honestly if they got caught it would have been probably fine because they're all rich
and Powerful it doesn't really matter but whatever whatever so at some point during the party I guess Virginia
started complaining that she couldn't breathe and that she wasn't feeling well oh we'll get her home get her home
exactly thank you my friend says that I'm like all right let's go home girl all right cool let's go or like we'll
get another room here we'll get a fancy suite for you to sleep in a comfy bed let's do it I'd be like you want to go
home let's go home I'll take you home I'll take you home I'll watch some reality TV with you yeah back in 1920. I
wonder what that would have been absolutely I'm just like trying to think of anything let's watch the latest
Valentino film let's sit down let's have a let's have a night of it and Virginia's like I'm in that one it's
weird and I'd be like it's fine let's do it anyway I go to sleep so she things you can't breathe she's pulling out her
clothing and she starts kind of like ripping her clothes like she it's like she wants to rip them off oh geez and
this point forward from this point forward there's like three different versions of events there's actually
really like 305 but for the sake of the story I'll say three this person's story
that person's story and the truth there is Roscoe articles side of things mod delmoyne's point of view and then
somewhere in the middle of those two accounts there's the truth which is still hotly debated we know each other
really God damn we know each other it's becoming so much more real lately Elena and I keep saying things that it's not
only that we're saying things at the same time like that's one thing we say them in the exact same inflection yeah
and I just want to punch you and be like get out of my head it's true and I'm sure you feel the same we're in each
other's Souls at this point you are one of my Souls at this point one of your old souls no you're not old to me it's I
thought you said that's mean and I but you said it no not mean at all are you in there I'm in there okay so one way or
another Virginia ends up in one of the adjoining rooms with Roscoe and potentially a few other people at some
point now thinking that she just had too much to drink I guess they Place her in
a cold tub but at that point it really seemed like she was only like riding around in pain even more yeah guys like
yeah they think she's drunk she's definitely more than drunk she starts vomiting oh and at that point she was
brought into the bed and they prop her up and she's clutching her stomach and she's screaming in pain until somebody
calls the hotel's doctor does she have like appendicitis or something no she's going on I'll tell you but you know
we'll read for her I just want to be like help yeah that's the thing now like I just told you she's screaming in pain
clutching her stomach like moving her whole body around in pain the whole the hotel doctor thought that she was just
drunk and moved her into one of the other rooms after giving her her some morphine to sleep it off oh okay I'm
like wait do some morphine about it you think she's drunk like she like she's like way too drunk in your opinion so
you're gonna give her morphine to top that off so you drug her on top of it like Jesus like yikes guys eek so she
would spend the next three days in that hotel room but each day she only got worse and finally after those three days
somebody calls another doctor it ends up being believed that it was ma Delmont who calls this actual doctor and or not
that the hotel a hotel doctor was not but just a different one yeah and Virginia was rushed to the hospital now
when she first got there those doctors thought that it was possibly a case of alcohol poisoning because from what
they've heard she's been partying she's you know yeah I get that but they start evaluating her more and more and they
find that she's actually suffering from something called peritone peritonitis oh
did I say that correct tinnitus Google says you are correct it's peritonitis it looks way more into intimidating it does
I was going to say there's like an extra tea in there or something there isn't like very weird so peritonitis uh yeah
it's all rough it occurs when there's some kind of infection that's also present and essentially it swells a
protective layer that covers your abdominal wall yeah and that layer protects not only your like whole ass
organ no it puts your organ I was going to say it protects all of your internal organs like everything the layer like
that membrane yes now in Virginia's case her bladder had ruptured and that's what
caused that infection that then led to the intense inflammation oh my goodness so just the thought of that a lot like
that because that membrane is called the peritoneum the peritoneum peritonitis because you said you saw that a lot
right yeah we would see it a lot in autopsies oh man it was like it wasn't like I shouldn't say it's like a very
common thing but I would see it common enough if you've seen it oh I can't even imagine that's gnarly yeah and the fact
that she just like showed up at a party and was like struck by it right and that's the thing like and it's like did
she show up at the party and she was struck by it or did something happen at the party that caused it interesting but
either way unfortunately by the time they realized what was causing her so much pain it was too late oh that kind
of infection like and and especially way back then like they just gave her morphine about it yeah she died in the
hospital on September 9th 1921. man I know Virginia seemed like such a cool lady she did now some sources suggest
that she was 26 when she died but other people said that she did FIB about her age so she was probably more like 30 or
31 but okay either way incredibly young yeah and at the peak of her career that's the thing she was only going up
you know oh and she just seemed rad she did she really did you just want to hang
with her I very much do now immediately the rumor mill went absolutely Bonkers yeah and at the hospital a distraught
friend wanted to talk to the police who were already trying to make sense of how
this whole night had turned into what it did that's very strange now that friend
was Maude Delmont she ends up calling the police and she's telling them that they need to talk to a
man that she named as Fatty Arbuckle oh her words not mine she said that he was the one responsible for Virginia's death
so you see the version of events where Roscoe and Virginia ended up in the same room went a little differently through
Maude's point of view and a few other people's point of view and we'll get to that when we get to some other stuff
mod told the police that she had seen Roscoe in Virginia chatting and they when she watched as they had about three
mixed drinks together now at some point during their chat mod heard Roscoe tell Virginia I've waited for you for five
years and now I've got you and as he said that he was pulling her into one of the nearby rooms and then
shut and locked the door oh and so ma doesn't think much of this until she starts hearing screams coming from the
room and she knows that this is her friend so she starts banging on the door at that point and it's locked and she's
like banging on the door kicking out the door he won't open it according to her there's a one version where somebody had
to come up and open the door and then there's another version where he finally does open the door
but this next part is what's told consistently he opens the door he's wearing pajama bottoms and a robe and
Virginia's hat propped on his head at a quote unquote comical angle like everybody said he was wearing her hat at
a comical angle like off to the side yeah exactly um there's a lot of like artists right now yes now she reported
that he had a quote unquote foolish screen smile smeared across his face and when she looked behind him she claimed
that she saw Virginia partially nude on the bed and clutching at her stomach and
she was calling out jamad I'm dying I'm dying he did it Arbuckle did it what now
when asked what exactly Roscoe Arbuckle had done to Virginia mod claimed that he
had raped her and that the force of his much bigger body on top of Virginia's smaller frame had ruptured her bladder
and eventually killed her oh my God yeah I had no idea that this was the case holy [ __ ] yes oh my God if
that is true what an action like a horrific way to terrific way like and the fact that it was it was not just
immediate like if that's how that happened she was raped and then she suffered and was like screaming either
way she suffered but then to add the potential rape on top of potential trauma of even more trauma on top of it
oh my goodness that is so horrific that's an awful thing to think about no Al semnoker again one of Roscoe's good
friends and Virginia's manager claimed that this was true and he actually took the claim one step further and I just
want to let you guys know this is really rough so I would skip forward about 35 seconds 45 seconds
he claimed that Roscoe had raped Virginia and also then used a piece of ice to rape her and he was joking about
it the next day with some men who had been at the party before and al-semnocker was among them what the
[ __ ] yeah oh my God yeah this is horrific it's really really Bleak so the newspapers
they get this information they get like a tidbit of it and they go [ __ ] Bonkers like it's like the magazines of
today there were all kinds of salacious rumors spread and stories written because most of these newspapers that
were spreading this information they were more like gossip magazines and a man named William Randolph Hearst he
actually owned like a solid chunk of these yeah Publications pretty much all of them know that name and they were
more like gossip columns than any kind of newspaper and he said that this whole Scandal sold more papers than the
sinking of the Lusitania okay yeah that's great wow that's one of the largest ships that was ever built by
the way like during that time and it had sunk back in 1915 really comparing two equally tragic but entirely different
occurrences here my dude like yeah that's con that's comparing apples to zebras it definitely is you're dumb wow
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reported that and of course they go after Virginia immediately they're saying she's a well-known party girl and
this night was really not anything out of the ordinary for her they referred to her they referred to her as an amateur
call girl who quote-unquote would get drunk at parties and tear her clothes off oh my God it's like well she's dead
so yeah like maybe and potentially was essentially murdered so oh my God but other stories started getting darker and
taking those little rumors and blowing them up and again I would skip forward if you don't want to hear this I'm going
to give you like 45 seconds this rumor that he had taken a piece of ice eventually just grew into this wildly
different rumor that claimed a Coca-Cola can or a whiner champagne bottle had been used oh my God absolutely horrific
holy [ __ ] now whatever happened the police knew that they were going to need to pay Rosco Arbuckle a visit and they
did he was arrested on September 10th now some sources claim that he actually turned himself in and others say that he
was just arrested so the second his mug shot was available to the public it was on the cover of every single one of
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interviews and they tried to clear his name they said that Maude Delmont was a known
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take rich men down okay so it did make sense to some people that that may have been the case here but at the end of the
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and the jury who are you he's gonna have to convince so he has a very different story to tell the police than the one
that they'd gotten from mod and different party goers he and he the problem here too is that he tells
multiple stories throughout the course of this entire investigation and trial and multiple trials he first told them
that he noticed Virginia at the party and he said that she was acting hysterical and he knew that she had a
few drinks so he chalked it up to just being drunk when he saw her start pulling her clothes and take them off he
said that he'd actually never been alone with her and that he and some of the other party goers carried her into one
of the neighboring rooms they placed her in that chilled tub and then when nothing worked they called the doctor
now he made it a point to emphasize that he had never been alone in a room with her but the police were not convinced
and six days later he was placed under arrest like and that's the September arrest yeah so later on in the in the
legal process the charge was actually the charge of murder was reduced to manslaughter because they didn't think
they were going to have enough physical evidence because they really didn't yeah
to make the legal teams confident that they'd reach the verdict they wanted to in a murder trial and if they want to
get him at all exactly for that lower one just to get them now this sucks because it changes a few key pieces of
his fate and the time he's gonna serve because number one now he could get out on bail yeah whereas before at this time
if you were facing murder charges there was no bail yeah so he did get out on bail once the charges were reduced now
secondly instead of facing an absolute mandatory sentence of death at this time like you would have in a murder case
since it was reduced to manslaughter he would be facing if convicted 10 years maximum wow like for killing or her
brutal death rape and murder wow so the first of three trials ended on December 4th with the jury unable to come up with
any agreement 10 of them believed that he was innocent but two could not decide so a mistrial was declared and the next
jury heard the evidence all over again strangely enough the second trial ended up being completely different than the
first with nine jurors convinced that Roscoe had been responsible for Virginia's death and three this time
convinced of his innocence so it totally flipped now the third trial started in March and it went very differently than
the first two this time he went with a completely different stories a completely different
story excuse me and he also let his lawyers really kind of go into Virginia and you know paint her as not a
responsible party goer to put it lightly that's always the cheapest way to go about a defense it is you know I mean
like when you have to turn the other person who's not there to defend themselves which into something else
it's like it's so complicated because I feel like you like it shouldn't be admissible like she's not here to say it
for herself it's hard but it's so many complexities to this kind of stuff but that always rubs me it's just such a
great area you know it's just when they're again when they're not here to defend themselves it's like a really
hard path to take there and to me it just feels yucky it does and I do feel like a lot of times it does sway the
jury because the person isn't there to say yes or no to that and it's human name we are humans yeah everybody is
fought juries are flawed judges are flawed the whole system is flawed Justice teams are flawed it's like
anything that morbid is has taught us is that the system yeah all the systems are
flawed so there's always human emotion and everything regardless of when you're not supposed to have it it's there
exactly so he lets them lay into her and paint her completely terribly to be honest so in this version events and
again he has that new story he tells the jury this time that he finds Virginia laying on the bathroom floor moaning
vomiting and calling out in pain now he said again that she's clinging at her stomach so he grabs her a glass of water
and then carries her on the bed to make her more comfortable then he said as he was getting her onto
the bed mod just like came into the room like burst in and starts accosting him telling him to get away from Virginia
leave her alone and he testified that he told her to shut up or he would throw her out the window wow okay so he he did
say that he admits that now it's interesting that he would bring that like specific quote up because
originally Maude told the police that he had threatened to throw Virginia out the
window and actually multiple other Witnesses agreed that they heard the same thing where it was at Virginia's
expense oh so much he said she said there is such a confusing case because I don't know I want you guys to let me
know like if you had a hard time deciding yeah what you think here because right now I'm like what the hell
totally I just don't even know is he now claiming he was alone with her for some
period of time yes okay so he changed that completely to me when it changes like that I'm like that's guilt that's
guilt right man or yeah it's hard to get away from that it didn't change your story and he changes it twice yeah so
the Witnesses were brought forward to corroborate this new version of Roscoe's story and multiple said that the ice
mentioned in the story did not have that dark story put behind it that so many of
the newspapers had published and instead they said that mod was just rubbing ice
across Virginia's stomach to see if it would alleviate any pain okay now the medical examiner Dr Shelby strange was
also called to testify also Shelby strange are you kidding me you are a medical examiner no other choice but to
be a medical examiner great name incredible so called to testify about their findings and said that Virginia
most likely had a chronic bladder inflammation Doctor Strange also testified that there were quote no signs
that the girl had been attacked in any way but with that being said they also testified that there was bruising to
Virginia's legs and to her upper arms in fact the bruising to her upper arm looked like it had been made from quote
the Deep impression of fingers yeah I just I looked up stuff and I saw those autopsy photos in my first thought when
I saw those look like finger grips and like I don't know her arms I don't know what else they would be because that's
exactly what they look like unless they are claiming that that could have happened when they were moving her into
the tub out of the tub into the you know what I mean like that would which is what they mean like that it's not a
violent right one and maybe it was just people gripping her to and it could have
been again she's of smaller stature these are like bigger dudes looking her up you don't know but interesting this
doctor needs to pick a lane because it's like you say that she looks like she hasn't been attacked but then you say it
looks like she has deep impressions in her arms which means like somebody probably would have been holding her
down but maybe that's what he's claiming is like it doesn't looks to me like she
was attacked it looks she was carries our carry marks are not like he's probably saying I don't see an attack
right I see when she was being moved right right that's probably what he was meaning at least true that makes sense I
didn't actually think of it that way yeah so thank you you're welcome no doctor strange though because everybody
felt like he had given a conflicting testimony yeah but he was not the only person to give a conflicting testimony
because a forensic expert in the trial Edward Heinrich stated to the jury that he'd seen both Virginia and Roscoe's
fingerprints on the door handle of the hotel that in that specific room and he testified that it looked as though
Roscoe's hand was placed over Virginia's on the knob which then led him to believe it was like she tried to grasp
it during an escape and he had stopped her with his much bigger hand leaving both Prince behind
do you get that picture definitely get that I'm just like how the hell could you tell that yeah like who would that
cause it was in the original trial that he testified that in the first two in the third trial retracted his original
testimony and said um I think those might have been faked those fingerprints and by the way a maid
testified that she had cleaned that door handle anyway so there wouldn't have been fingerprints on all right so that
might have just been like he said she said yeah kind of seems it oh the 1920s oh my now then almost every witness who
had testified against Roscoe in the first or second trial saying that Virginia told them he'd hurt her or
raped her they just disappeared off the grid in the third trial huh nobody could
track them down and the ones who were tracked retracted their original statements so then you wonder if there's
some like many many people thought that they were either intimidated or paid off
exactly that's exactly what I was gonna be like by the third trial I'm sure he's
getting he's rounding up some people to be like he's getting death take care of people here yes absolutely but at the
same time it was then discovered that four of the prosecutions witnesses had some secrets of their own one of them
who was supposed to be testifying about Virginia's character turned out to be a very close friend of Roscoe's so their
testimony about Virginia was voided God what is going on here another woman who testified negatively about Virginia
uh like in her supposed party girl ways has she said that Virginia came to her hotel quite frequently and had a habit
of getting drunk and ripping her clothes off um turns out there was literally no
record of Virginia ever being at that hotel huh whatsoever now on the same token there were Witnesses on the
prosecution and I think I actually flipped I was gonna say so that was defense sorry this is that was defense
on the same token there were witnesses that the prosecution used in the first trial and second trial who came out in
the third trial and said that they had been forced by the prosecution to give false testimony
huh this whole thing is [ __ ] yeah that's like really complex and the uh I like them like what the [ __ ] because
everybody just seems to be lying knowing the defense Witnesses are lying about like her being shitty
that to me is more dire than the prosecutions lying that she's not shitty like it's like you know what I mean like
I feel like if you have to make people lie to like make her bad that's worse to me yeah but it's all bad it's all it's
really bad but yeah like realistically all three of these trials were absolute [ __ ] shows in their own way this is a
circus and they really did nothing other than smear Virginia Rapids name right alongside with a man who was literally
on trial yeah like he's the one on trial why are we like hearing her name yeah exactly or turning her into a villain
here you're right like she's not here right now so let's not now the biggest win for the defense was when they
uncovered what they probably considered a [ __ ] gold mine of information against someone who had originally been
considered their star witness oh the prosecution star witness Maude Delmont I knew it of course her name's Maude
Delmont of course you're gonna find some [ __ ] on her some shady shit's going Bambina mod Del Monte are you kidding me
she apparently had a bit of a secret life that coincided with her Alter Ego Madame black uh-oh Madame black would go
out and find young attractive women to take to parties that were always being thrown by these like annoying ass rich
dudes yeah so they'd go they enjoyed their party but then they would later on make claims that they'd been raped at
the party even if they had not been now the goal of the entire operation was to Blackmail these men into paying huge
sums of money just to make the problem go away holy [ __ ] so it's like a scam damn now on top of that she had also
been reported for um extortion and fraud in the past oh damn and it was also found out that she
was in a bigamist marriage and when I heard that I said a big marriage a big a big marriage marriage what's the problem
with that she's she's got a loving marriage yeah um actually what that means is that she
married one man without divorcing from her last husband so technically she had two husbands and that was a big No-No
back then oh yeah so both of these discoveries absolutely tore her character apart and then another point
was made to really drive the point home of how far she was willing to go to destroy a man's life
it turns out that she had sent notes to two of her friends right before Virginia
died like as she was actively dying apparently they were sent about two days before on September 7th and mod wrote to
these people we have Roscoe Arbuckle in a hole here to make some money out of him oh yep
oh that's bad so like safe to say she actually wasn't asked back to testify after her original testimony and man the
prosecutors then had her name omitted from any witness list involved in these trials in all three of them oh man
yeah because I also was saying I was like you know did because this one's hard it's so hard oh thank you because I
was like am I like this am I I don't even know because I also was wondering I'm like the whole time that she was
like screaming and crying out and like people around her was she she never said again like that someone did this so she
did she said to a couple people people that he hurt her yeah I thought she only said it to mod she said it to mod and
then she said to one nurse that he had hurt her and she also said she's a nurse's name she she did use his name
but she didn't say he had raped her just that he hurt her he hurt her and she also said to the uh to the nurse because
she had a fiance during this time oh and she said to the nurse that it was imperative that her fiance not find out
about any of this oh yeah oh okay which again only like adds a little more adds a little more layers to that it does
this is why it's so complicated but then that nurse like eventually retracted that statement and that's the problem
like I would find somebody's statement and then they'd retract it and then I'd be like okay well I don't know what I
think like Is that real is it not yeah so finally on April 12th 1922 it was time for this third jury to deliver
their verdict in this manslaughter case they only took five minutes to deliberate and when they came back and
read their verdict they had found Roscoe Arbuckle not guilty on charges of manslaughter and actually went as far as
issuing him a public apology what they said acquittal is not enough for Roscoe Arbuckle we feel that a great Injustice
had has been done to him there was not the slightest bit of proof a a deuced a deuced a deuce a deuced to connect him
in any way with the commission of a crime he was manly throughout the case and he told manly like okay and told a
straightforward story no he didn't which we all believe we wish him success and hope that the American people will take
the Judgment of 14 men and women that Roscoe Arbuckle is entirely innocent and free from all blame
okay um the American people did not feel the same way that the jury felt I was gonna
be like all right let's see how that shakeed up for her yeah honestly if he was truly innocent then what happened to
him in his career in the wake of these trials is just another [ __ ] tragedy yeah but if he's not then like cool he
deserved him no idea we don't know there were still people out there like a a good amount of people it seems like the
majority who believed that he was responsible for Virginia's death in some way and that he'd gotten away with
murder yeah I mean so tough for a long long time nobody wanted to work with him and he was actually barred from working
on any set oh damn for eight months after he was acquitted he couldn't find acting work and even when they lifted
that ban after eight months he like nobody would get divorced yeah foreign guys most of you have probably heard me
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somebody he had mentored again one of these big stars that maybe you've heard of Buster Keaton oh yeah that guy we
mentioned him before the re that's where the name William Goodrich came from Buster Keaton had suggested like while
Roscoe was still recovering from this blow to his career that he used a name will be good
like will the name be period and then good for the last one so he was like I think it's not a time
to joke and instead I'll I'll do William Goodrich just to make it like a real name yeah yeah I was like okay so yeah
that's that's how that evolved now in 1932 11 years after Virginia's death Roscoe finally got an opportunity to be
back on the big screen Samuel sacks who was working with Warner Brothers actually signed Roscoe on to appear in a
short film called hey Pop now it was the first movie that Samuel sacks had done that he used sound in and
it was a huge hit because people are stoked that they can hear these movies now do you know sound
now after that so he's in that after that he actually acted in six more uh shorts excuse me and everybody seemed to
be responding pretty well to them it's like it really is one of those things and it's so horrific that this happens
but I think it's one of those things where the news just like over the years goes away because other things happen
that people become more invested in and then like Virginia rappay is forgotten yeah and this guy just gets to If He Did
kill her yeah that's the hard thing right if he did do this this is [ __ ] [ __ ] foul right like it was just
allowed to be moved on like this isn't like you know he made a mistake this is he took somebody's life in a very
horrific way potentially whether he intention intentionally did it or not it's you got to be held responsible for
it and it's like but if he didn't do it it's like exactly so hard right so he starts
acting in these shots people are happy to see him on camera again and over time it was kind of like nothing had changed
he was still the quote unquote Fatty Arbuckle that people loved and remembered so the success of those films
that he did like when he started coming back actually LED Warner Brothers to write up a contract for a million
dollars which would be 13 million dollars today so he signed that real quick obviously because he was like I
don't need my career to be in Jeopardy Jeopardy again and he goes out to celebrate with his friends I said he
signed it on June 28th uh I don't know if he said he did he goes out and hangs with his friends after that he
apparently told them this is the best night of my life and that night he died in his sleep at
just 46 years old of a heart attack damn this is the bleakest story holy [ __ ] of
ever not of ever but it's really [ __ ] that's really Bleak yeah because what if
he didn't do it holy [ __ ] he went through so much and finally got that contract and then died and if he did do
it you're like whoa that's some Universe [ __ ] right there okay that's what that's
kind of what I was thinking because I don't know if you listen to the show but if you do then you know that I'm really
listen to this if you listen to the show like if you have for a while you know that like I'm really into like karma in
the universe and like when I read that that he signed this contract said who knows if he really said that's the best
night of my life I feel like that was kind of added in over the years I'm sure he said it at some point but then he
dies the next day or like that night that's really Karma to me that screams like oh big Karma Vibes that's right
that's like the that's a Karma like Dad punching you in the face a Karma dad punching you in the face
this is what that is I don't know damn you know what I mean I yeah I do weirdly enough
that's that's some real [ __ ] that's really intense so that is the case of Virginia
rappay and Roscoe Fatty Arbuckle damn I had no idea neither did I I've heard the
name of course but like I've heard Fatty Arbuckle I didn't even know his name was
Orozco yeah but neither did I because I've only heard him I was like I'm sure his name is not fatty but yeah but like
what's and then when you find out like just it's so much tragedy throughout there is this like sadness from
beginning to end yeah and I had no idea it was just so like brutal it's incredibly brutal wow
thanks for that you're welcome uh so I think we're gonna follow this one up with a spooky case most likely we'll
we'll see we'll see maybe not maybe we'll just do a whole lesson just keep going you can wait and see and uh we
hope that you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird but that's the way that you got
with your friends who are a bunch of heathens and then you on your way you're like getting Hardy to party and you have
the drinks and the everything and then you go to the party and then you lie about what you did at the party and
somebody end up dead and like maybe you killed them maybe you didn't don't keep us aware that your mod delmont's gaming
man because you can't be doing that you know oh my God uh bye but watch The Great Gatsby it's a good movie and
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Ash, doing an Old Hollywood case? Groundbreaking. This one will have you spiraling through a whole slew of different emotions. It’s the case of Roscoe “Fatty” Arbuckle and Virginia Rappe. Back in the 20’s Roscoe Arbuckle, known as “Fatty” in his movies, was one of the most beloved actors. He and three of his friends decided to throw a Labor day prohibition party at a hotel in San Francisco. It was supposed to celebrate one of Roscoe’s latest roles and be a great time with all kinds of young and happenin’ celebrities but by the end of the night one party-goer, a rising star Virginia Rappe, would end up incredibly ill and would later die in the hospital from something that may or may not have happened to her at this party.

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Brief Summary

Roscoe Arbuckle's career ended in scandal after Virginia Rappe's death, leading to trials filled with conflicting testimonies and media frenzy.

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Roscoe's Vaudeville Breakthrough. Roscoe's somersault off the stage wins over the audience, launching his Vaudeville career.
Roscoe's Hollywood Rise. After years in the background, Roscoe signs a lucrative deal with Paramount Pictures.
Virginia Rappe's Tragic Story. Virginia Rappe, a rising star, faces heartbreak and tragedy in her pursuit of fame.
Virginia's Distress at the Party. Virginia starts to complain about not being able to breathe and begins to act erratically.

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