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true crime [Music] thank you [Music] back in June of 1979 Kimberly niece borrowed her father's pickup truck to go
to town on a Friday night she was seen cruising the dragon Poplar Montana several hours before her body was
discovered in episode 1 we went through in detail the tragic and brutal murder of a promising young woman and the
bungled crime scene investigation that followed but then police almost out of nowhere
get someone who confesses to killing Kimberly nice this is three and a half years after the
murder and what is even more strange the confession comes from all the way down in Monroe Louisiana
in January of 1983 our old pal Berry Beach he's down there at the police station in
Monroe Louisiana he was originally brought in for some kind of minor offense but the result is he confesses to
killing Kimberly niece plus three other people [Music] during the three and a half years
between when Kimberly was killed and Barry was arrested Barry Beach was bouncing back and forth between Montana
and Louisiana while down there his father's wife so his stepmother calls in a complaint to
the law enforcement agency down there she says Barry was assisting his stepsister and her friends in running
away from home and possibly skipping school so he's picked up for contributing to
the delinquency of a minor during this time period though the main concern of the police down
there is a Serial murderer who is on the loose and killing women in the area two women and a girl were killed and
they had just put together a task force to hunt down this killer now we got to keep in mind what is going
on in the world at this very moment remember up the road from Louisiana from 1979 to 1981
Wayne Williams was killing kids in Atlanta Georgia he's convicted of two suspected of maybe
25 and well I believe Wayne Williams killed 15 or 16 of those people in my humble
garage opinion now these three murders in Louisiana started up in August of 1980 and there's
another murder in April of 81 and then again in February of 1982. Wayne Williams was on trial in Georgia
at this time at the time of the third murder police formed a task force and the phrase another Atlanta became common
discussion around town police announced that the murders were connected but were tight-lipped
otherwise after the third murder even police and detectives were now saying publicly I
think we may have another Atlanta on our hands so Captain police likely are telling
Beach's stepmother look lady we'll write this guy a ticket and move on because we have a serial
killer here and we've got bigger fish to fry and beat your stepmother because she is
just such a nice and helpful person tells police well that's interesting because Barry
was questioned a couple of times about a murder of a 17 year old girl back in his hometown before he moved
here no I mean look he did come home covered in blood the night a girl was murdered in his very small town can we
agree it's a questionable statement we have an officer who says he took a statement from a woman who says my
teenage son was covered in blood yet there's no record of that statement anywhere other than
this guy's this guy saying he took that statement and the mother's saying I never gave that statement right so it's
a little it's a little dicey on if it were if it's true or not but but yeah I hear you out I hear you
so now police are like oh right this guy he's questioned back in his tiny little
town of Poplar and then he moves here and now all of a sudden we've got three murdered females and we know he's a real
son of a beach shout out to Howard Stern there and it turns out one of the women murdered in
Louisiana well there's some connection between her and Barry they knew each other
the Sheriff's Office contacted the Roosevelt County Sheriff's Office back in Montana and confirmed that beach was
in fact a bona fide suspect in that unsolved murder the unsolved murder of Kimberly niece
with Roosevelt County's blessing the sheriff's office down in Louisiana we have Sergeant Jay Vaya and Commander
Alfred and Commander Alfred Calhoun they questioned beach at the Sheriff's Office
several different times for several hours each time Beach initially denied killing nice and
he denied any involvement in the three Louisiana murders as well I really don't like when they're
questioning for lengthy periods I think we've seen that time and time again go go wrong
yeah and but what we're going to end up getting is a confession on several different levels here as said
he will eventually confess to killing the three Louisiana victims and confess to killing Kimberly niece as well
I want to just focus on the portion of the Kimberly nice case before things I don't want things to get too convoluted
right we got to be able to to to walk through this and follow it as clear as possible
Barry Beach's confession to the killing of Kimberly niece basically goes like this
he was partying with his two friends in a place called Sandy Beach on the afternoon of June 15 1979.
this is when Beach said he got his car stuck in the sand then he ruined his transmission trying to get it out
and a fit of anger he yells at his friends he ends up punching the vehicle and about at about 4 30 p.m he left his
friends and walked back to town there he asked a couple of friends to drive him home the first people that he
asked well they turned him down the second card that he asked they actually drove him home
once he got home he says that he took a nap and didn't wake up until sometime after it was already dark
when he did wake up he got dressed and he walked into town and he says that he saw Kim sitting alone in her truck at
the Exxon gas station Barry Beach asked Kim if she knew where her sister Pam was remember he was kind
of dating Pam at the time she says I I don't know what answer she she gives to this question it's not
clear in the statements that he provided to police but the result is he ends up asking Kim if he could ride with her
right around town and hang out with her [Music] he says that she agreed to this so they
drove around aimlessly around the tiny little town of Poplar for a while before parking at the train
bridge and this is where Kim's vehicle the truck would later be found Kim and Barry sat in her truck according
to Barry talking for some time talking about the normal kid crap right talking about high school
Kim going off to college after the summer Pam and Barry's relationship and Kim and Greg's relationship normal stuff
eventually after some beers they smoke a joint and continue talking Barry steers the conversation away from
Pam and him to maybe something with Kim and him Kim doesn't seem to like this idea Barry
tells her he wants to have sex with her she turns him down he tries to touch her she pushes him
away he tries to kiss her she pushes him away and tells him to get out of the truck
Barry calms her down and offers to smoke some more weed with her he says in his confession he thought if
she got a little messed up she might change her mind yeah after joint number two
Barry is going to give it another shot and of course he shot down and this time Kim is having no more of his Shenanigans
no more of his rude aggressive behavior and as he tries to touch her again he this this again after she has refused
all of his advances she smacks him Barry says he smacks her back the detective inquires further
did you smack her with your hand or your fist Barry says with his fist so he describes this as if maybe one
could believe it's some kind of I don't know maybe some kind of fight or even if just briefly some kind of fight
and we know that he certainly is going to have the upper hand here he's using his fist and then he does this weird
thing of still making these advances to her at some point he says he saw a crescent
wrench on the floorboard inside the truck he picks it up he hits Kim several times
with it Kim tries to escape out the driver's side right so you're you're saying that he's claiming
I I try to make these Advanced men's uh towards her she didn't respond then I try to get her more drunk and
high maybe than she would respond to my advances she didn't uh then she physically attacked me so then I
attacked her but then he continued to make advances after he's young punched her this is according to
the confession that that uh that has had in this case he says that he saw that crescent wrench
on the floorboard inside the truck he picked it up and hit Kim several times with it
he said that she tried to escape out the driver's side of the vehicle Barry got out he runs around to her and he pins
her up against the side of the truck he says he tries to kiss her again and this is when she scratched him well at
this point he's he's trying to rape her well that's right and and you know I said this weird thing of hey he's
physically abusing her but then still tries these sexual advances and I I say that that's a weird thing but you got to
keep in mind that a lot of experts say that rape is more about power and control than the actual intercourse
itself Barry keeps going back to trying to kiss her because in his pee brain he believes at some point she may comply he
hits her to get what he wants this makes him feel powerful she does what he wants
even if forced to do so this gives him a sense of control and in turn again having control or being in control this
makes him this makes his weak-minded attack feel like like he's some kind of powerful man
says at some point he did choke Kim this seems to be rather brief because he then grabs a tire iron from the bed of
the truck and he started beating her in the head with it and eventually she stops moving so we have an attack with
the crescent wrench his fist it started inside the truck no no no and then we have this tire iron
that would been used outside of the truck yeah after she stops moving he realized that
he killed her he says that he started to panic he decided that he needed to get rid of the evidence he found a large
garbage bag in the truck and tried to put Kim in this garbage bag she only partially fit in the bag
so he dragged her over to the river and pushed her in he then took the keys from the truck the
crescent wrench and the tire iron and tossed them into the river as well he says he used his shirt to try to wipe
off fingerprints in and around the truck Barry then his goal was to go home to run home but he's covered in blood
so he says that he stripped down to his underwear wiped the blood off his body as best as he could
he burns his clothes in a railroad car that it's parked on the tracks he ran the rest of the way home washed
the remaining blood off and then he goes to sleep the whole time trying to convince himself that none of
this really happened well but so we we can also assume that maybe that his mother seeing him covered
in blood actually did happen or are we just thinking that that still I don't know rumor I don't know what to
think I wish that there was some actual report of that statement that the officer says that
that he got from his mother is that the end of his confession that's basically the end of his
confession yes he I mean the thing that I find interesting here is it matches up pretty nice with the
evidence and it matches up pretty nice with the things and the items at the crime scene
well the crescent wrench but it's such a small town that you would think that he would have known possibly about
that tire iron something you find on a vehicle so you know it's not that far-fetched for
somebody to come up with that that idea well that's what's going to be at the Crux of this whole argument
and at the center of this whole case against Mr Barry Beach because the people against Barry Beach
will say look how much of the confession lines up with what we know went down that night we know she was at the Exxon
gas station he says he saw her there and that's where he got in the truck we know
that the truck was found at the train bridge we know that she was dragged from the truck we know that she was beaten
with at least two items we know that the attack started or or took place inside the truck as well as
outside of the truck and he doesn't say that he rapes her and there's no there's no evidence of rape
so there's a lot of things that are in his story that did in fact take place during the commission of this homicide
so this confession looks really good but as you just pointed out very astutely I
might point I might uh add is small town it's three and a half years later there are certain details of this
homicide that probably were rumored about town putting the paper uh I know that the uh
she wasn't raped was put in the paper I I read the article myself that says that
but but what's interesting though to me is and I keep bringing it it seems like I
keep bringing up the Pike County murders which at some point we should cover but
having friends from that area and and it being a case not solved and yes it's a bigger case there's more
people murdered uh in that you know horrific event but there was tons of speculation and
tons of rumor that people thought were facts so the fact that nothing in his confession that you told me
there's not one thing that is wrong right there's nothing that dismisses him right and I guarantee you
again stuff that we're not privy to okay oh well we know she wasn't raped we know she was dumped in in the water we
know that her where her truck was found okay great this is information that everybody's going to know in that town
but what were the other rumors what were the other speculations in that town that
he conveniently left out or maybe not conveniently maybe it's because this is this is the Killer
I mean there's not a lot of people in that town especially in that age bracket he's the same age as her and he's
basically at least with the confession he's putting himself in the general location
with no alibi yeah he I mean he lives near the somewhat near the the murder scene right
he also you know we we I failed to mention the fact that he says he threw the murder weapons and the the keys to
the truck in the river we know that the keys were not found we know that the pathologist says hey look I I believe
more than one weapon was used but I don't know what weapons though that were used and that's because the murder
weapons were not found so there's a lot of things that really line up here and he's not just some wacko coming out of
the woodwork you know coming out of the out of nowhere thin air here he's somebody that was an actual suspect at
one time years ago shortly after the murder and I wonder if the crescent wrench information was put out there but
that would be something that he would have access to because he was dating her sister or at least spending time with
his sister and so is it possible that then he then talked to her afterwards to get more details about
about the crime well if the family even had any of the details other than what was outside of the paper we know that
the father said that there was a wrench missing yes he did the uh the sheriff's department
down there they also managed to get buried as we said to confess to their three unsolved homicides the three
murders in Louisiana but there's a bit of a problem here for law enforcement down there because even
though he confessed to those three homicides he couldn't have committed them as there was proof that he was not
in their state he was not in Louisiana for two maybe even all three of the murders and the police down there
already said all three were connected so what's going to happen is he's no longer good for these down here even
though he confessed to him but while down here he confessed to a murder up in Montana so let's ship this guy back to
Montana to face the music Barry immediately argues that his confessions were coerced he claimed that
he was threatened he claimed that he was manipulated he claimed that he was drugged
but even with the bungled crime scene the confession was enough for a jury up in Montana to convict him he was
sentenced to 100 years with no chance of parole please note the following regarding this
confession the tape of Barry Beach's confession according to law enforcement in Monroe
Louisiana had been erased so at his trial he's saying look you can't you can't use my confession to convict me it
was coerced all that law enforcement can provide all that the prosecution can provide to the
the jury and the judge is a typed up confession a transcript of the questioning between police and Barry
Beach I mean you could I could type up something and who knows if it was actually said or not when you lose the
audio tape Beach maintained that his confession was coerced what do you mean by that well he
says that when he was down there in Louisiana they kept threatening him with the death penalty with the electric
chair and he resorted to well maybe if I confess they're talking to me about these my this Montana case
now maybe if I confess to this they'll ship me back up to Montana I don't want to be in Louisiana I don't want the the
death penalty or the the electric chair that these guys are telling me that they're going to watch me Fry on for
these three murders right but I guess he wasn't aware that he had a solid alibi what's that was he not aware that he had
a solid Alibi well that's what's weird I don't know why he even bothered to confess to the Louisiana cases
at some point I mean they're they're questioning him and at some point it gets down to
he he starts to get confused and he's saying like the thing they're talking about God and
God is telling him that he did it I mean it gets really weird the whole interaction between these two
interrogators and I I'm choosing to call them interrogators because that's what it seems like at this point
and Barry Beach and I'm not willing to say he's perfectly innocent of anything here
Captain I'm just saying the interaction that I read between these three was very
strange and and it seemed odd now it didn't seem to me though he he's not being denied any of his rights he was
made well aware of his Miranda rights several times so the officers did that and did that thoroughly and correctly
but the the whole God conversation gets weird and he admits to these three murders that they end up knowing that he
did not con you know confess he could not have committed these murders and then to top that off these two same
officers later got two other at least two other men to confess to these three murders in Louisiana as well
and it was proved that they did not kill these three women well like you said there it's an interrogation their job is
to try to get a confession not to try to get the truth right so what I'm I'm pointing out what could be good
and make make good and point to Barry Beach's confession being real and truthful and he is a killer but I'm also
pointing out that these two individuals these two officers seem to be skilled at
getting people to confess to things that we know they did not do so in the mess of all of that did they
perhaps get Barry Beach to confess to killing Kimberly niece and in fact he did not do it so many people
question not only the evidence but the prosecutorial conduct during the course of Barry Beach's trial and even after
the trial the rumors persisted around Poplar Montana that a group of girls were the ones responsible for Kim's
murder other than the confession Barry gave to the detectives which again he says was coerced
that was really the only thing that convicted him of the murder of Kim nice at the time prosecution did say that
they had a hair that matched Barry Beach and we now know all these years later through science that unless that hair
has DNA on it and you match it to his DNA it's not a 100 match although that's what it was presented as in court
but none of the fingerprints none of the palm prints none of the other physical evidence at the crime scene could be
matched to Berry Beach foreign [Music] cheers mates cheers Captain well we have Barry Beach
sitting in prison he's sentenced to 100 years he says I was wrongfully convicted
and he requests the help of centurion Ministries who agreed to research his case after their investigators reviewed
the facts of the case and noticed an absence of physical evidence in this case so there's not physical
evidence tying Beach to the actual murder right they formally took on the case in 2000
in doing so they conducted an exhaustive reinvestigation of Barry Beach's conviction Centurion Ministries was
according to their website the first organization in the world dedicated to the Vindication of wrongly convicted
persons since 1983 they have freed 63 men and women who were serving life or death sentences for crimes they did not
commit Centurion believed that the confessions obtained in Louisiana were coerced and that the group of girls
actually murdered Kim niece one significant witness that Centurion managed to find in their investigation
was a woman named Stephanie Eagle Boy she told a story that when she was 10 years old she lived near the train
bridge at this time in Poplar back in 1979 she liked to sit out on a rock overlooking the train bridge with her
cousin One Night in 1979 they were sitting on this rock when they saw two pickup
trucks pull onto the train bridge they say that a group of girls got out and they heard about 10 or 20 minutes of
what they labeled as horrific screaming and girls shouting things like getter and kick the [ __ ]
then it got quiet they say that they saw I'm sorry I shouldn't say they just Stephanie Eagle boy says that she saw a
police car arrive and she knows that it's a police car because it had its the police lights on top on so old Eagle Boy
has an Eagle Eye well the the cop shuts off the lights according to Stephanie's story
then she heard what she thought was digging noises then the all three vehicles leave and drive off
okay this is interesting she does Say Hey I was scared I was 10 I was scared of the girls I was scared of police I
was scared of everybody I didn't tell anybody all the way back then I'm willing to tell people now
Doyle points out in his book that he does not believe that Stephanie witnessed the Kimberly niece murder
he says that he does not think that she's lying she just witnessed something else something else you're exactly right
because he points out a couple of different things one Kim's truck stayed at the scene
according to the story that Stephanie Eagle Boy whatever she witnessed she says all of the vehicles left after this
screaming and this attack seemed to go down and the other thing too is that the the doyle points to is that
Stephanie's cousin has never said at any time stated on any official record that
she saw anything that Stephanie has described seeing right back in 1979 so again we're not saying that she is
lying we're just saying it might be just a simple mistake of having witnessed something else at a different time we're
not saying that she's lying we're just saying she's lying well speak for yourself it's not on purpose I I've seen
I've seen this uh woman interviewed and I I believe that she saw what she said she saw I just don't think it has
anything to do I'm I'm on the side of Doyle there I don't think it has anything to do with Kimberly's case
right now Captain for this next part I'm really going to give the short of it the
just the facts ma'am somewhat the wiki version of all of the legal stuff here because there's a lot of it and I want
to make sure that we save some time to get back to those cases in Louis Louisiana because they are important to
this story so late in 2011 a judge issued a ruling that there was clear and convincing
evidence that a jury could find Barry Beach innocent so he was granted a new trial as a result of this Barry Beach
was released from prison I want to point out this is after years and years of of
legal things back and forth so he's released from prison after nearly three decades Behind Bars Barry was free
to go out do his thing this is pending a new trial Barry found employment working
as the head of Maintenance at a hotel but a year and a half later in May of 2013 the Montana Supreme Court
reinstated the murder conviction this overturning the latest ruling and so Barry was not going to get a new trial
and in fact he was ordered to resume his life sentence immediately I keep saying life sentence it was
technically not a life sentence he was sentenced to 100 years in prison right right that same day Barry surrendered
himself to the authority so now out of prison back in prison in October yeah in October of 2014
beaches attorneys asked Montana's Supreme Court to order that beach be re-sentenced okay this is important the
Supreme Court asked the state to respond to his attorney's claim that Beach's 100-year sentence is illegal because the
trial court did not consider that Beech was a minor at the time of nice's killing and because it leaves no
opportunity for release all right the way that this breaks down is if you were to Res the the not
receiving a life sentence sucks for Barry Beach because the life sentence actually carries different weight than
the 100 Year sentence the 100 Year sentence with good behavior gets Barry Beach out at the earliest after 52 and a
half years of serving time he was in his 20s at the time he would have been nearly 75 80 years old
by the time he would get out per absolute perfect good good record while in prison good behavior that's the
earliest he could get out he could potentially get out slightly earlier under the rules of a life sentence but
then on top of that they're saying the shortly after he was convicted he was actually 17 when the murder took place
he was a child and Montana did not allow for juveniles to receive life sentences
so he should not have been sentenced to that lengthy of a sentence it's a whole long legal
thing here argument back and forth and beaches attorneys simply pointing out that he was a teenager at the time
and there was legal precedent that says teens should not be handed that life sentence the Montana Attorney General's
office says this precedent does not extend to murder cases so on November 20th of 2015
again after a whole lot of back and forth Montana Governor Steve Bullock commuted the sentence to time served
plus 10 years probation so as of less than five years ago Barry Beach is out of prison and he's
still serving probation he's he's served quite a bit of time for this murder now the question then becomes
do you think he did it or he didn't do it yeah it's very strange especially with the because we have evidence or we
assume it's correct evidence that he confessed to three murders that he didn't do right
so it's not a big stretch to go well maybe he confessed to this fourth one as well and he didn't do it but then you go
back to the problem of he got an awful lot of things awful a lot of things right in his confession yeah
and he has a connection to her I think that's the that's another big thing they were the same age they went to
school together they knew each other uh well not even just that I mean he dated her sister dated the sister and they
they were known to be quite close when they were little kids as well I do want to point out some things that
I think is wrong with Centurion Ministries case because I I don't really know what they
were basing this off of I I agree with them on the statement hey your what you said about this hair matching Berry
beach at the time of his trial that's completely that's a farce that's completely incorrect you cannot say that
it 100 matched him we know that nowadays without DNA connecting it to him it's not a 100 match so that was that's
questionable Behavior Matt right but it matches on some level it he cannot be excluded right as the providing the
sample of that hair at the crime scene however you're talking about hundreds and hundreds of other people if
not thousands of people couldn't be excluded from having left that at the crime scene as well
the other thing though too is let's talk about some of the leaps that I believe that they presented or or were
attempting to present in their their defense of Mr Barry Beach one was that the statement in it they
want to tear apart his confession right they want to say well his confession can't be correct because of this thing
and this thing that he stated the first being that Kim would not have gave Barry Beach a ride they were in
different social classes that's their statements I find that to be that makes my head spin I go what do
you mean different social classes they lived in the same neighborhood this is a town of less than 900 people they went
to the same school they were the same age he dated her sister yeah it makes no sense even even if it's
different classes it's the fact that he was dating or had some kind of relationship with her sister that she
would have helped him out I think what's more interesting to point to that that person portion of his confession might
be false is that no one ever says that they saw Barry beach with Kim nice we have witnesses say hey I saw her parked
alone I saw her sitting by herself multiple Witnesses but nobody at any time ever saying they saw Barry beach
with Kim but nobody saw her down uh where her car was found parked by herself yeah you're right the only
person saying that they saw her down there is Barry Beach right and that's we that's where we know our car ended up
but also we also have eyewitnesses that say we saw her at the gas station by herself
and then we have Barry Beach saying yep and that's when I came upon her that's for for a ride the other thing
they point out to Captain is that they in his confession he states that Kim scratched her him
during the attack [Music] and it's too bad she didn't rip off his dick you know that would just make the
story a little bit better Centurion Ministry says that this cannot be true because there there was no skin found
under her fingernails at the autopsy okay that is a true statement where I have a problem with it is I reviewed the
entire 22-page autopsy it doesn't mention her fingernails once in the entire autopsy right so it may it's yes
it's true that no finger no skin was found under her fingernails at the autopsy but we don't even know that they were
examined or checked for skin right and how long was she actually in the water for
and yeah would that have an effect on removing any of that evidence again I'm just I'm just saying that's it's an
exaggeration right so we have that part right Captain I mean you can't say there
was no skin found under the fingernails they're not saying in the autopsy report
We examined the fingernails and there was no skin found it's it's not stated anywhere in the report anything about
fingernails well maybe I think what the defense is trying to say is since it wasn't stated then obviously they didn't
find anything and that's just not the case that's correct so then we also have a couple of other
possibilities look I I'm not willing to remove Barry Beach as a likely suspect in this case I think he still even
though he's out and they've determined that it's time served that's a key thing here too time served
they're not saying that he's innocent either they're just saying he's if he did the crime well he's done the time
and now he's out I think he looks just as good as anybody else but we also have other people to
consider right if he didn't do it as he says and as Centurion Ministry says then
somebody else had to have killed Kimberly niece we have this ongoing Rumor for many many years for decades
now that a group of girls killed Kim niece that night we have a statement that was given to
the Sheriff's Office this is three weeks after the murder a guy named Mike this is this comes from a um
an individual that says a guy named Mike told him several people beat Kim to death and there were several witnesses
and no one helped her when asked who was doing the beating he said it was [ __ ] Atkinson and Tara Red
Dog or something now we know [ __ ] Atkinson she is in this story she's referenced many times
the only mention I ever saw of this Tara red dog is in this young man's statement
to the sheriff's department but he follows that up with or something so it sounds like he's not clear on the second
individual's name Mike longtree said that red dog held Kim down while [ __ ] beat her with a hammer or some other
object Kim's Hair was caked in blood she begged for help before she fell and passed out and then people started to
leave the area leave the scene we know that a claw hammer was found in the river 30 feet from the Body Found by
scuba scuba diver during evidence search yeah it was found by Scuba Steve but the
pathologist says that that was not the instrument that killed Kim I do want to point out though that Captain there's
been a long list or a long roster of names when it comes to the quote-unquote group of girls involved in the murder of
Kim niece well I've seen probably six or seven different names the ones that are
mostly tied to it is the [ __ ] Atkinson mod greyhawk and Joanne Todd um yeah but that that story doesn't
account for that there's an attack in the vehicle and out of the vehicle right what's that the way that that
count of the story went so this young man is not claiming to have witnessed the murder he's just
saying that he's heard he heard about it he's he's citing by name an individual that told him what that person witnessed
that night again that we have the rumor and and normally when there's more people than one involved
you'll get people talking about it people can't be quiet about it and the other thing too is I don't know that you
can completely rule out the boyfriend at the time I mean there's really a whole long list of
suspects that that I don't think you can clear and a lot of that is based off of
you just don't have very good physical evidence yeah we do we do have I thought I
thought this was weird when I was uh going through the police reports there was a report from a person named Johnny
mccallymy and he says that on the night that Kim niece was murdered he witnessed a pickup truck
pull up at the norgaard house between 335 and 3 45 am okay in his report in his statement to the
Sheriff's Office he says that he knows that it was either 335 or 3 45 AM because immediately after he witnessed
this truck pull up at the norgaard house he looked at two clocks inside of his house one said 335 once at 3 45.
he said that the pickup he described the pickup as having loud mufflers in a bar
or a rack on the back I find this to be interesting it doesn't necessarily mean anything it could just
be a coincidence but I find it interesting that we have all of this activity going on with all these
teenagers Greg is the closest one to our murder victim and he says that he gets home between 2 45 and 3 A.M
what is this vehicle pulling up at 335 3 45 A.M where I'm getting at and what I'm
where I'm going at with this is this whole story this this rumor that's lasted for decades about a group of
girls well that's not what the statement was that was given to the the Sheriff's
Office the Sheriff's Office statement that they received from that that young man the the witnesses said he was told
by Mike longtree that Mike longtree witnessed the murder was the a group of people were there
this could include guys and other dudes that it didn't have to just be girls the
way that it sounds that it went down is it might be a couple of girls that were responsible for the actual murder but
there were plenty of witnesses there and this being both you know young young women girls guys
what have you it is possible that they might not even have known that they actually killed her
I think I think the the more troubling thing and then where I question this rumor
is I don't know why I just find it somewhat hard to believe if the more people that you put at that
scene the more people that you that that you have that claim to have witnessed something or
know or have heard something none of these people ever came forward when they are convicting the wrong guy for the
murder yeah but again that's I think those are little details not being privy to because you're not from the area you
don't know what kind of relationship that uh you know Mr Beech had with anybody and and and what kind of uh you know
individual he was and it could be as sick as you know these um girls attacker for whatever reason jealousy or
maybe she's flirting with their the claim is that they that one of them at least one of them was jealous probably
several of them but it seems like there may have been something going on or something
suspected of going on between [ __ ] Atkinson I believe or one of these other young young women again it's a long
ever-changing fluid roster right but it's not that far-fetched we already know that she was hanging out with a guy
the night before until four o'clock in the morning right and the Rumor was that that she was hanging out with the not
only the boyfriend of one of these girls but the the father of their child but what I'm saying is if that went down
and then These Guys these detectives and a whole nother part of the country that
are pretty good at getting people to convert Fest to crimes gets this guy to confess
um that's like good for you why would you come forward and and the group doesn't
have to be that large two or three girls two or three guys yeah I know I mean I I
don't I don't know that I'm just I it just if that is in fact the truth it makes me incredibly it makes me equally
as disappointed as I am with the the false confession it's just weird because I think the confession
there's too many details that make sense and there and I also think normally when you have a confession
that's false that you have moments of distancing yourself from certain things and and he's like keeps reiterating like
yeah I attacked her and then I like try to kiss her again and then I hit her and then I tried to
kiss her again like it's almost like he didn't even have the concept of how crazy of a person that makes him
sound well and that's where the audio tape that magically disappeared or was taped
over or erased would have been very helpful for the defense right it was a race because of the tactics they use but
that doesn't mean that the confession is false just you know if you if you tell somebody hey if you lie to me I'm going
to chop off your fingers you're not supposed to do that but if you do that and the person confesses and it's
truthful am I making any sense there no you're making sense it absolutely could still
be a truthful confession what I mean is would you have ever got a conviction to to begin with right because we have
nothing to to go off of on that confession and and how look we can sit here all day long go yeah he got a whole
bunch of stuff right in the confession well he you know he got a million times more things right than Jesse Miss Kelly
got in his confession that was put pieced together but we also don't know that maybe these investigators maybe
these interrogators received detailed information about the murder scene about the crime itself from investigators back
in Montana and they helped bury piece it together and really helped him hang himself with with hit quote unquote his
words and all we have is a piece of paper that's typed out by God knows who to tell us this is what Barry said that
day when he was being questioned it would be nice to have that audio tape to hear were they starting and stopping
that tape was Barry getting things wrong and then they were manipulating his answers or telling him that he got it
wrong no try again Barry think harder this time Barry it wasn't it wasn't a CR it wasn't a a hammer that you used
wasn't there something else that you saw in that truck Barry we've seen this go down we've seen this movie a million
times it I I do question the validity of the the confession and let's go back to
to Louisiana because what we have here is three guys Barry included that confess to killing
these three persons we have we also have a police department that's down there that's kind of freaking out
at the moment they're even publicly stating hey we think we have another Atlanta on our hands here we have
somebody in our community killing our citizens and we don't know who it is but we do know that it's connected now what
was interesting about this case was at the time they said these are connected but they were very tight-lipped about
the details which I found to be very interesting because I question that I'm like were they just kind of panicking
and these weren't actually connected but what happened was I'll go through the actual briefly through through the
murders because they released very little about it at the time the first one was in
August of 1980 it was 27 year old victim her name was Angie Hill she was found in southern Monroe in an
industrial park shot in the head her car was abandoned they know that a 22 caliber pistol was used they believed
that a possible robbery from a from a convenience store where she worked took place as well a robbery for six hundred
dollars and her car was found seven miles away from her body then in April of 81 Kathy
Wharton who went by Gene she was found she was 19 years old found April 4th off of
Maguire Ranch Road and it's the same situation Captain where her body is found five miles away
from her vehicle she too was shot with the 22 caliber pistol and then in February of 82 we have sherry Alford
who's only 16 years old she's attacked in a very similar attack now what we learn how do we know that these are
connected well police released all these years later in 2007 that the mo was the exact same and
what had happened in all three of these cases is they could determine that by the the vehicles that these young women
were driving right somebody had bumped them from behind on the road and then ran them off of the
road and once the victim got out of the vehicle or was forced out of the vehicle
then they were sexually assaulted and killed the bodies dumped away from the vehicle
or the vehicle moved away from the body what have you I point all of this out because these
cases end up getting closed or at least one of them and police saying that hey these three are connected because in
2007 they connected DNA from the second murder from Kathy Wharton's murder to this guy Anthony Glenn Wilson
Anthony Glenn Wilson has got a rap sheet like you wouldn't believe he's been arrested 42 times during his
life booked 32 times in correctional facilities and likely he quit murdering or stopped
murdering at least briefly because he was arrested and convicted of assault and battery with a dangerous
weapon this in the area of the murders in March 2nd of 1983 in the month of March of 1983.
so just one year after the third killing plus the announcement the public announcement of the task force forming
probably prompted him the other thing too they're putting in the papers hey we got
this guy Gary Beach who looks okay for these maybe it's a convenient time for me to quit murdering as well right
I point all that out because it won it's good to hear that these cases got solved that they that they're
not just an aside to the berry Beach case to Kimberly niece's case as they are often when we see this case on
Dateline that that we have a result we have a resolve an answer to what happened to these poor girls down in
Louisiana but Barry Beach and Anthony Wilson do not look anything like one another
we have an officer who came out in fact he was still on the force when they finally solved these three unsolved
homicides he comes forward and he says hey when they brought beach in and said they were
going to question him for these three Louisiana murders we got into a heated argument
I got into a heated argument with the two officers I said you know he doesn't look anything like
the description we have of our suspect right we have witnesses at several of the crime scenes of the murder scenes
and We Know by all of their accounts this man looks nothing like like our suspect
and they said hey why don't you shut up we'll deal with the homicides you're a Narcotics officer why don't you worry
about the drugs we'll worry about the homicides and they question Barry Beach anyway and
that's where my mind goes captain and I wonder you know what is this the old bait and switch as soon as they found
out from his old stepmother that Barry was questioned a couple of times up in the state of Montana hey let's get him
to confess to these three murders here we know he didn't do it before we even started the questioning
and let's open the door to talk to him about Montana and let's see what we can get from the
investigators up there maybe they led him to this confession to be honest with you I wish I knew the absolute answer
for you captain and I don't have it I don't have the answer I've looked over this a hundred times I can't figure out
if Barry Beach's confession is true or false oh yeah at least another one of them is false
that's true that is absolutely true [Music] foreign extra Saucy crispy do we have any recommended
reading this week we do Captain this week we are recommending a book called Reckless speculation about murder and
it's available in paperback and in Kindle form and that's by is this the story of the captain well it could be
and it's funny that you say that because I've read this book it's fantastic but Reckless speculation about murder is
kind of what we do every week in the garage and this is by a good friend of the show Barney Doyle one of the things
that I enjoyed about this book was it points out that Barney Doyle isn't your average gumshoe private detective all
right he is but what sets him apart from all of those other guys is that he wrote
this book and they didn't so check out Reckless speculation about Murder By Barney Doyle that's our
recommended reading for this week join us back here in the garage next week until then be good be kind and don't let
it [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign

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Brief Summary

Barry Beach confesses to Kimberly Niece's murder, but evidence raises doubts about his guilt and the investigation's integrity.

Key points

The Confession. Barry Beach confesses to the murder of Kimberly Niece three and a half years later.
A Troubling Encounter. Barry Beach's confession reveals a violent confrontation with Kimberly Niece.
The Aftermath. After the murder, Barry attempts to dispose of evidence and cover his tracks.
Barry Beach's Confession. Barry Beach confesses to murders he may not have committed, raising questions about coercion.
Centurion Ministries Steps In. Centurion Ministries takes on Barry Beach's case, believing his confession was coerced.
New Evidence Emerges. Witness Stephanie Eagle Boy recalls seeing suspicious activity near the crime scene.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I really don't like when they're questioning for lengthy periods.

Concern about the police interrogation process.

8:26WatchNov 12, 2022

Tension

60/ 100Some tension

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