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>> [music] >> When we [music] closed the garage door at the end of yesterday, Captain there,
we had unfortunately announced that Kevin Davis was pronounced dead. The autopsy led to a homicide investigation.
You and I buted heads on a few different aspects of that investigation, but ultimately what this is going to lead to
will be a homicide investigation that will result in charging an individual with that homicide.
>> Well, just to be clear, we have officers at the scene a little suspicious. We
have detectives at the scene a little suspicious. Then we have two different medical workers at the hospital where he
passes away. They're suspicious and also the individual that does the autopsy. So
that's a lot of people suspicious that this is not just an accident. Yeah, this is uh going to be a very difficult one
and already has been for all the reasons uh you pointed out because for every one
of those suspicions there is a counterpoint to that where somebody will say well no pump the brakes a little bit
not so suspicious but exactly you're exactly right you have at least one of the EMS workers on the scene saying this
isn't looking right to me one of the police officers says so much So that this isn't looking right to him, that
I'm going to call in a detective. And we have the ER doctor along with the doctor
that performed the autopsy, the coroner who performed the autopsy ruling this ultimately ruling this a
homicide. So somebody killed Kevin Davis according to that coroner. Let's talk about and I know we kind of dipped our
toes into these waters yesterday, but let's talk a bit about the evidence that is supportive of Allison's story. Right?
We do know Kevin was drinking that night. That is the consensus report. We have people at the bar saying he was
drinking that night. We have Allison saying, "When we got home, we both had a few more beers. We got into an argument.
When the police arrive, they see beer cans present. Open and empty beer cans present. So that would back up parts of
her story. She says, "I fell asleep on the couch after this argument." The argument being over Kevin was blasting
some music. She wasn't into it that night. He wanted to hang out. She wanted to go to bed. She decides to sleep on
the couch. And as you pointed out, Captain, rightfully so, pillow, blanket, indicator that somebody may have been
sleeping on that couch, as she had said. Now, the suspicions, >> yeah, >> we have the 911 call. When reviewing
this, I've said it before. I don't feel like >> Say it again, my friend. >> I'm going to say it again.
>> Say it again. >> There's Because there's going to be somebody that's tuning in for the first
time. I don't know where you've been all this time, my friend, but welcome to the
garage. >> You look well. >> I don't I do not look I'm not a man of many talents, okay? But one thing that I
am very good at. >> I'm a man who understand recognizes understands and not I'm not afraid to
present to you that I know my limitations and I know what those limitations are. And one limitation I
believe that I have, I don't believe I'm a good barometer for listening to a 911
call and saying, "Yeah, that person's guilty as hell." Or, "Yes, they are absolutely innocent."
>> Well, let me just back that up a little bit, though, too, because there's some
calls that you hear and you kind of smell the [ __ ] >> There's some that are more obvious than
others. Yes. >> Right. But that is then normally backed up by other evidence to make you smell
the [ __ ] right? But when when there isn't a bunch of evidence, like in this case, we we have no murder weapon if
there was a murder. But this call, just listening to it, I go, I I can't make heads or tails because again, if you're
over dramatic, then you're guilty. If you're under dramatic, you're guilty. And so I think that's um I I don't think
this 911 I don't think this 911 call to me points in either direction. >> It feels right down the middle to me.
Now I will say the lead detective in charge, the So this would be the on call detective that night who eventually goes
on to become the police chief. His statement is he believes what the way it hits his ears. He says, "This sounds
rehearsed. >> Sounds like she's an actor." >> That Allison wanted to listen to what
the 911 dispatcher had to say and then she went into her whole rehearsal. We should give a shout out here to CBS.
They did cover this on 48 hours in an episode that they called Death in a Stairwell. I believe on that episode,
this detective says it was all about Allison. If you listen to her words, it's all about her. It's not hurry up
and get here. Oh my god, he's dying. Please get here as soon as possible. Now, I'll agree with Detective Krueger
here >> because that's at times when I've defended persons making these 911 calls.
And the one thing that does grab me and shake me a bit when I don't hear it and I want to say h it sounds suspicious.
It's always when there is a lack of urgency to get the help there to help the person that you are calling about.
The flip of that is there are plenty of episodes 911 calls that we've done where
the person is like get here. Get here I need you just you know shut up. you know, or they're not able to to relay
great information, but they're trying to get help to this individual as immediately as possible. I agree with
Krueger here. I at no time during that 911 call did I hear her. She sounds panicky, right? She sounds panicky.
She's explaining what's happened. She says where they live, where the the responders need to go. She's at the curb
to flag them down, but what's missing is the words of, "Oh, get here quick. Where
are they? Where are they?" Now, the flip of that would be the response time, as we pointed out, was very quick. 3
minutes from the time that the call comes in. >> Yeah, I think it's also difficult, too,
because we do see somewhat of the scene through the body cam footage, but it's also they blur out certain things. So to
me, depending on what that scene looks like would heighten if somebody's going to be more panicky or not. To me, again,
it's blurry, so I can't fully digest the situation, but I'd say the scene doesn't
look like this chaotic mess where that where she might have gone, I think my husband hurt himself. I can't move him.
I can't help him. But maybe she didn't feel like it was a a life or death situation because there is no, and
everybody says this, the EMTs say it, the the detectives say it, the police officers say it, there's no like sign of
like crazy blunt force trauma to his head at the scene. >> Correct. which is interesting to me
because that would to me that would be indicative of a fall with with him impacting
an object that is not in motion. It would also but it also can be an indicator that he was struck with
something if he was struck in a certain manner >> or depending on what the object was. He
what is obvious at the scene is he's got internal bleeding and we know that because it's being forced out of his
there's no nice way of saying this nose and mouth. >> Yeah. >> And even though his breathing is is
faint is not very good at all those breaths especially um when he first fell whether it be from being struck by
something and falling to the floor or falling down those steps those first few breaths are actually going to be very
powerful. Okay. And they are going to shoot. That blood is going to It's like when you take, you know, when you kink a
hose and you let it kind of build up, the pressure build up for a little bit and then you release it and then it's it
just it burst out. That's what you're going to get with those first couple of breaths. You're going to get blood that
bursts out of the nose and mouth and then that's going to get weaker and weaker as he is laying there.
>> Yeah. I think the other problem too is like when they talk about the lack of oxygen that Kevin had, a lot of that is
going to be due to again no nice way to say this, he's choking on his own blood.
So that's going to affect your oxygen levels. So I kind of go through these items one at a time here and it's not a
long list that we have to get through, but I think we have to examine each one. And some of these I think are suggestive
that she's telling the truth and some are suggestive that she may not be telling us exactly what happened there
in that home that night. We mentioned the beer cans. We mentioned that he we know he was drinking that night at the
bar. So the part of her story where he might have been drunk and fell down the steps. I don't know what happened. I was
sleeping. That seems to make some sense here. >> Right. Krueger says the 911 call
suspicious. I didn't hear it other than the begging for them to get here faster or get this help here immediately.
>> Yeah, I think we both agree that could go either way. >> Correct. I think something that could go
either way here as well are the next two suspicions that law enforcement had. They point out that at no time did
Allison ask to go to the hospital with her husband. Okay, so ambulance is going to take him, rush him off to the
hospital, 19minute drive to get him to the hospital to the ER. They're saying, you know, it seems odd that she didn't
ask to go to the hospital with him. Well, cuz some people try to jump in the back of the ambulance. But this is where
I think it's a little gray area because we have the statements of Yeah, I'll give you permission to look through my
house, but I would like to get to the hospital. >> Thank you. Thank you. I I'm with you
exactly there. She her words and and these are in quotations in the report that was submitted to to the courts. So
there's no argument here about what she said, right? This this will be presented
as fact at some point. And her words were, "I want to comply." This is according to the detectives. "I want to
comply." >> Yes. >> I want to get to the hospital to be with my husband. Now, I'm going to defend
Allison here. Not just because of the words that made it to the report, but unfortunately, I've been in a few
emergency situations. A lot of a lot of us have. And in that moment when the ambulance is
rushing somebody off to the hospital very close to me, immediate family, I can recall at least twice being asked if
two separate occasions being asked by one of the first responders, hey, do you want to ride in the ambulance? And every
single time, dude, I tell you, like my my reaction, like my my gut reaction is to go, yes. But then both times You like
the lights? >> I want to get to that pure oxygen that they got in there. >> Give me a hit of that.
>> My gut actually is to be with my loved one. >> But see, >> I don't want to go in there because I'm
a little gassy. So, I don't want It's >> Well, then they don't want to be in there either.
>> It's a tight quarters, you know? >> Well, that's what I'm saying. Every time I
>> give them a little of my own oxygen. You know what I'm saying? >> Methane gas. Every time in both
situations, my gut reaction is to say yes and then my eyeballs see the back of that ambulance and how, as you pointed
out, how tight it is. And here's here's what I want. >> Here's what I want in that scenario. I
want those two persons in the back or the single person in the back of the ambulance, whatever the setup is, to be
hyperfocused on my loved one without my big ass being in their way. Not that they would do this, but you don't want
something bad to happen. And then for the uh EMTs or the EMS or whatever you want to call them to the emergency
response people, you don't want them to hesitate at all to do whatever is necessary to save that person just
because you're in the vehicle. >> Well, that that's exactly what I'm saying. I I want them to focus on the
problem at hand and they are equipped to fix that problem. I am not. So I I am it
is probably better for everyone that I am not there. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to hop in a car and go to the
hospital. So I have no problem with her never asking to go to the hospital with him. And and then on top of that, let's
also compound that with you only want to cram so many people into that clown car
that's going off to the hospital trying to save this guy's life. And I'm being the I'm being an ass hat here saying
clown car, but that it feels like you're jamming a bunch of people into a small vehicle. Now, the other part of that too
is keep in mind what's going on at the scene at the time. She is engaging in conversation
with a detective with the officers. You can start to see neighbors and stuff have come outside of their homes. She in
that moment may feel I still need to be here to provide information to these individuals. A lot of times too people
don't know, civilians do not know that once in the presence of an officer that they are free to leave unless they are
under arrest. Right. >> Some people believe you you we see this time and time again where they'll ask
the officer if I is it okay if I leave or or can I leave now because it's like being called down to the principal's
office. You you don't just get up and walk out of the chair. You you wait to be excused. So I think there's too much
going on here at that scene to really put any weight into this idea of she never asked to go to the hospital now.
>> But also she she woke up. She's in basically her pajamas, what she was sleeping in, little tiny shorts and a
t-shirt. It's not unreasonable that again, she might not know how severe the situation is with her husband and she's
like, "Boy, I'd like to get some jeans on and a and a hoodie and and go down there so I so I feel comfortable."
>> Well, that is my next point. They say it's suspicious that she seemed to minimize Kevin's injuries. Again, we
pointed out prior she may not have had a good understanding of what those injuries were. She also may have been of
the belief that once medical personnel get here, >> they'll be able they'll be able to fix
them. They'll put Humpty Dumpty back together again. So, I I can't put any weight into any of these. I mean, it
would be different if they're like, "Hey, you want to go to the hospital?" Nobody I I didn't never heard anybody
ask her if she wanted to go to the hospital. be different if they, hey, you want to jump in the ambulance? And she's
like, yeah, why would why would I want to do that? I'm not going with him. That's not what happened here. They're
just analyzing something that I don't think needs to be analyzed. Now, what were other people's suspicions, right?
Let's let's set aside police, the detective, for a moment. Most, very close to everyone,
>> yes, >> at that bar has been supportive of Allison. And now, that's just really a
character assessment, right? None of them were there at the home obviously. >> Yeah. But they saw their interaction
many times together. And so you got friends there. But you you have close family members. You got people at the
bar. Like you said, almost 100% are saying she's not capable of doing this. They were not that type of couple. Sure,
they have arguments. Everybody has arguments. But there was no domestic violence. You got to remember, too, she
has no criminal history. We have no history of domestic violence with inside the relationship. And so some of the
people that go to that bar later because of their arrest and all that stuff, there's some some people are suspicious
of her, but for the most part, everybody in their close circle is supportive that
this was an accident and Allison had nothing to do with it. >> Yeah. So almost everybody at the bar and
and again like the captain's pointing out, don't just look at it as everybody at the bar that night. No, it's
everybody at the bar that night. And it's also these people have been they've interacted with this couple many, many
times. So almost everyone at the bar that they talked to says Allison's great. Their relationship was good.
They're a normal couple. No problems that we ever heard of, ever saw. With the exception of maybe two guys, right?
two of the guys that were sitting with Kevin that night. And where this comes about is one of the individuals says,
"Hey, after Kevin left, we traded a couple text messages." And it's not uncommon. He says, "That's not uncommon,
but the last text message I get from Kevin says, "Putting my phone on silence, the wife, or I have to put my
phone on silence, the wife." >> Right? But again, these text messages to me back up Allison's story. I mean, he's
saying, "Hey, yeah, we made it home. We're fine. Uh, I'm just listening to some music. I'm just having some more
drinks." And then he's like, "Hey, look, I'm going to put my phone on silence. I'm going to go to bed cuz the wife
>> or the argument that she said there that we're having, >> right? And the argument was stop playing
music. Go to bed. You know, you know, let's let's be adults here." And so I think those text messages, if those text
messages were sent by Kevin, then that kind of backs up her story. >> It may. Again, we only have one of the
persons out of that party here to tell us. You know what I mean? It's like the the argument could have been about
music, >> right? >> That's what Allison says. We don't get to hear Kevin's side of that. Maybe
there was no music involved at all. Maybe the argument was about something completely different. I also don't think
that that text is descriptive enough for us to have a great idea of what's going
on. It, like I said, it's a tight rope, right? >> Yeah. I think this this piece of
evidence is really nothing. Just this this is middle of the road. Doesn't point one way or
the other. Mhm. With with one side you could fall on guilt and the other side you could fall on perfectly innocent.
And I don't see anything here that I find to be extremely alarming. We do have Kevin's mother who did say to the
detective that they were having marital problems. Now, I also want to follow that up with everyone else that they
talked to didn't they didn't say recognize any marital problems at all. Right. >> So, it's only Kevin's mother that says
that. We do have another member of Kevin's family who tells police that Allison gave a different story
to them than what they told. Yeah. I believe it was the mother. They She says, "I was asleep on the couch when
she heard Kevin fall." And when she told Kevin's mother, she said, that they were
both upstairs asleep in the master bedroom. So, but again, it's like, is that individual telling the truth? Are
they misremembering the conversation? I mean, how many times have you told somebody a story and then you hear them
tell the story later and you're like, that's 50% of what I told you. Or are you just making up these details
because I didn't say that? >> Yeah. So in actually the the story that the mother gives to the detective is
very very different um from Allison's story. So according to Kevin's mother, what she tells detectives is she was
told by Allison that Kevin was not drinking that night. She doesn't mention the bar. She says Kevin wasn't drinking
that night. that they were to sleeping together in the same room and Kevin got up to get a glass of water and fell down
the steps. That's the story that the mother gives. It's Kevin's brother who gives
a story very very similar to to the one that you just passed along. which then if we are to believe
Kevin's mother and the brother, which I guess I have no reason not to, but then that would put us at three different
stories here as to what happened that night. And again, I agree with the detective in this case by saying, well,
Allison is minimizing certain things. Is this part of the minimizing? you know, oh, we weren't really drinking or was
that just a way to cover for, you know, her her late husband? Did she just not want to talk bad about him? Who knows?
And again, I don't mean to go out of my way to discredit the mother or the brother here, but I I will back I I want
to include this here. I take it with a grain of salt because what happens here is the coroner says this is a homicide.
Mom and brother could be swayed emotionally for a million different reasons. Those stories are very
different. I don't know if those are the stories that Allison in fact told them.
I can't say one way or the other. The story that I give more weight to is the story that according to the EMS report
stated by one of the medics. So, we have a medic helping on the scene and this EMS personnel
says that quote, "Wife advises that she never heard anything and that it had been a while since she had seen her
husband." She further advises that he came home from the bar at approximately 100 a.m. that morning and that might be
the last time she had seen him. She states that Kevin had no medical history. End quote.
>> That's fishy. >> It's very fishy, but it's also, isn't it? It's very like vague and it's very
short. Like, I wanted a little bit more. Like, what what do you do? You know what
she meant or what do you think she meant by that may have been the last time she
saw him? Because if if that's if that statement is 100% factual, what that means is that argument that she told to
the detective and told to the police officers when they arrived on the scene, according to that statement, that
argument never happened. >> Yeah. And the problem is is the first responders and the detectives,
they they don't know her personally. We have other friends. We have her best friend. We have her father explaining
that she seemed out of it. She wasn't super emotional, but she just seemed way off of the the way she normally was
because of all the stuff going on with her husband. And so I I put some weight to that because where they go, "Oh,
well, she's not reacting the way she should. Maybe she just simply was closing off like one of the officers
claims. One of the officers says on the body cam, I think she's just in shock and doesn't
know what's going on. And if somebody's in shock and saw their husband laying on
the ground, she can't help him. She calls 911. This is a freaking nightmare. How the How How is she sus? How is she?
We can't determine how she's supposed to act. >> True. I agree. I do. If if that again
though, if that statement from the medic is [music] 100%, she looks very, very guilty to me.
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>> This is going to further complicate things because it is not until I believe it was in so the fall takes
place in August, October 17th, 2023. I want to say that it took two months for them to rule it as um rule it
officially a homicide and then it took another two months before she was actually charged.
>> Yeah. So I I think this this is the problem part where I'm I'm questioning the information, but I I believe that
it's accurate. It just seems strange. It seems a bit strange here. So now keep in mind they're not talking to the
detectives never talked to Kevin's mother until September, right? And the fall or the murder, whichever side you
you believe, took place in August. So we know that the coroner did rule it to be
a homicide. And I would have to believe that that would be shortly after conducting the autopsy. So very likely
it's it's it goes to a homicide within let's say a week. Then they're talking to collecting more information. It's my
notes say October 17th, 2023 made it an official homicide and then there wasn't a warrant for an
arrest until December 22nd, 2023. And >> yeah, >> Allison would as soon as they announced
the warrant for her arrest, she turns herself in. >> Yeah. >> Then we have more delay. Now, I'm not
going I I had an issue with this, but I but as I sit here now in front of you, Captain, here in the garage, I I don't
feel so strongly about this opinion. I before I was She sits in jail for 17 months before the trial starts.
>> Yeah. And that irked me to no end prior to my arrival here at the garage. Now
that I sit here in the moment, I can say I should point out this could be at the
request of her defense. >> Yeah, cuz you know the state already has some experts. So the defense is going to
have to get their expert. He's going to have to spend time coming up with his findings.
>> Mhm. And then obviously then the question becomes how many experts did they have to go to to get somebody that
disagreed with the state's findings? I don't know that and would never be I think privy to that information. But she
goes on trial. I don't think the trial lasted that long. >> Here was the other problem that I had
with this this case was I was a little shocked that they took it to trial. Yeah.
>> Because to me, here's what it felt like, right? You you have no murder weapon.
>> No murder weapon. You have no official motive. >> You have no witness saying that she
attacked him. >> You don't really have any buddy coming out of the woodwork saying, "Well, she
had an affair or she had this." I mean, she had to turn over their phones. They didn't find anything suspicious there.
And and nowadays with social media and people feeling lonely and wanting a little attention there there's no
mention of that. And so it the difficult thing here is you go well this just doesn't look like a fall down the steps
and we didn't collect the necessary evidence but we're going to take it to trial anyways. And I think there were
just the problem here is when you have one expert saying well this is a homicide and you have another expert
saying no not so fast this is a fall and one can explain it better than the other
that's how you're going to get your verdict from the jury I believe and what we've heard and this probably starts way
back before OJ but you watch a bunch of OJ documentaries they tell you the prosecution is going to tell a story and
it's our job to tell a better story. And I think that's what this defense team does in the case. But I also think the
problem with the investigators and the prosecution is they couldn't tell you a complete story. They told you a very
vague story. Well, we think maybe this happened. We think maybe she hit him with a bat or a kettle bell or some
other object. We don't have that object. That object doesn't exist. So, I think this
>> or if it did or if it does, we never found it and we don't have it here in court to show you today.
>> Yeah. And I agree with you. Like I could see this one just going, "We don't have
enough evidence. Let's just not pursue this because if you pursue it with less evidence and you lose, it's done. It's
done. You can't charge her again." >> Mhm. When looking at this and examining this, this one feels
a little bit like the game of clue to me, right? It was Mrs. Davis in the foyer with the candlestick and then you
have to reach into the envelope and see if you got it right. It's it's almost like a Hail Mary shot.
But I think the reason why you pursue >> the murder charges and do take it to trial is simply this. The the your
medical examiner, your coroner ruled this a homicide. Therefore, as far as the state of Indiana is concerned, this
was a murder. Every person statement of that night is there were two people in that house,
including Allison's statement, right? >> Two people in that house, one of them was murdered, one of them was not. Who's
your killer? I could have solved this one with the first episode, right? If that is true, if he was in fact murdered
and everybody including her is saying there were two people in the home, one was murdered, one was not, well then
it's the last man standing that is your killer. So I think they were really hanging their hat on that fact. Our
expert says this man was murdered. She's the only one in the home. It's an easy case. We wish we had more evidence to
present to you, but we don't. And we don't have that evidence because we didn't secure the scene. And then we
allowed Allison's father to go into that home at some point that morning in which
the father says, "I let the dog out. Willow, the dog had been cooped up in that master bedroom. The dog needed to
be let out, need to be fed. I'm a dog lover. You're not going to hear any arguments from me." He says, "While I'm
there, I cleaned up some of the blood, but we asked for permission to do so." >> Yeah.
>> The detective said, "Go ahead. Go ahead. Clean Clean it up. I want Here's here's
what was missing from the Death in the Stairwell 48 hours episode." >> When was that conversation?
This man wasn't pronounced dead until 100 p.m. He was taken to the hospital before 5:00 a.m. or around 5:00 a.m. at
the latest, right? when when did dad ask the detective, "Can I let the dog out? Is it okay to
tidy up?" If And that's what I wanted to see because that's what the detective should have been pounding into our souls
and our thoughts of, "Yeah, he asked me that. I gave him the go-ahad, but the man was still alive when I said that he
could do that." I'm guessing because we're not hearing that argument that unfortunately Kevin may have been dead
at that time and it was a really bad call. >> Well, let's get to the the trial and and
what the jury concluded. >> Well, before we get to that, we we should explain that
and we're nearing that, my friend. Don't you worry. We should explain that the expert that the defense team presented
did explain why and how the injuries may look like they weren't caused in the manner that one might expect with a fall
down the stairs is that there there was a a very sturdy banister at the bottom of those stairs. and their expert is
simply saying those that head trauma was caused by him hitting that banister during the course of that fall.
>> Well, that's the what that's what I was saying in the first episode. It's I've
fallen off steps at the top. Sometimes you fall halfway down and I've fallen off right towards the end.
>> You know, you you're just not paying attention. And when you have the lawyers
go into the house, you have detectives go into the house, you have the EMTs go into the house, everybody that's been in
that house and that tried to go up those steps said, "These are steep steps." >> True.
>> And so he doesn't have to. It can be a fall down the steps, but he fell the last three steps. Slips, hits his head,
then falls and hits the wall. and and and and you and again like you said with the crash test dummies, I think that's a
great analogy. You could you could you could replay the scene a thousand times and the victim ends up in a different
location with different injuries and and a different outcome. >> I agree 1,000% here because I heard both
explanations and read the report from the coroner. I thought both of them, to me, a lay
person, both of them sounded very plausible. I agreed with both opinions on how these
injuries took place. I think it goes back to our whole crash test dummy thing of if you, you know, throw one of those
down the stairs a few times and and see what happens, you're going to get a different injuries, different result
many of those times. One thing I Here's one thing I wanted to find, desperately wanted to find.
And maybe this will be out there at some point. Maybe it's already out there and it's
and it was just too far down to to dig or it's not been made public. The How good were the photos of the scene that
you saw, Captain? Cuz you did you noticed something I didn't notice. So, I'm thinking you may have seen better
photos than I have when you mentioned the blood on the the AC unit. >> Well, the blood was on the floor under
the AC unit. But again, when you see the body cam footage of them enter that room,
>> okay, >> there's no there's not a giant puddle of blood. You can see that with your own freaking
eyes, right? And so then when you see the crime scene photos and you have these giant puddles of blood, you go,
"Well, how the how' that happen?" >> There does appear to be a rug that would have been in that area that
that appears to have been pushed aside. So I don't know if the blood seeped into
that rug. >> Right. >> So it's it's kind of it's not a it's like a welcome mat almost. sits on the
inside of the the front door where most people put a a small rug that appears to be pushed to the side.
What I didn't see, and maybe the rug prevented this from happening, I didn't see
cuz there was a third there was another in that home that night. the dog. I didn't see any
paw prints made by the blood. Yeah. Again, and that I wouldn't know because I'm not privy to their their personal
life. Some people have a dog. They they have a cage in their their master bedroom and
they put their dog in the cage when they go to sleep, you know, depending on how
that dog acts when when you're asleep. Again though, if you can kennel, if you're kenneling that dog in that master
bedroom now, I have a problem with you not letting me in there. I'm not asking to get into the dog kennel. I'm just
asking to go through the home for cursorary search. So, I don't know. You're right. We don't know if if the
dog was kennled or not. But all the scenes that I've reviewed where someone is murdered inside of a home, where
there's blood evidence inside of a home, dogs walk through that. They just do. Now, I actually thought that that would
point a little more toward the idea that he he had fallen. Now, again, I'll I'll I'll
flip over to Allison's side because one thing that I don't recall seeing in that
48 hours episode that I later learned was Kevin was when he was found, he was only
wearing underwear. Now, look, all of us are different. We all party a little different. Maybe he
was cranking up the music, having a few beers, chilling in his underwear. There are plenty of guys that do that. And I
know I'm not every man out there, but to the the le the lesser amount of clothing, the more it tells me the the
man may have been sleeping. >> Yeah. >> And if he got up to get a glass of water
or if he was drunk or Look, you can fall down the steps the stairs and not be drunk at all. be sober as a judge.
>> Yeah. But again, if you if you put your dog in the cage when you're asleep and
you get up to get some water, you slip, fall, and hit your head, the dog's still
in the cage. >> Mhm. >> So that's that's not crazy. And again, I think we differ
on on what she was allowing, what she wasn't allowing. I think what she was trying to say is the dog's in there and
the dog's in the cage and the dog is, you know, a guard dog and it's it will get aggressive. It's in the cage, but
and I think that's what's going to weigh on this detective now, chief of police's
brain forever. Would I would I have found a a baseball bat? Would I find a a kettle bell or
something to that effect? Would I find something? But again, you you could find a flashlight, whatever you find. The
thing is is there's there was no evidence just looking at Kevin of this injury. So, I
don't think you're going to find that blood evidence on you might find some DNA evidence and stuff, but I don't know
if you're going to find any blood evidence on those items if they were even in the bedroom at all.
>> This one's This one's a real difficult one. It's uh and it was a bit of a long
time coming like we had said over a year and a half later before the trial actually starts
and the trial was running back in May of this year. Went to deliberations on Friday, May 9th, 2025.
And we do get a a verdict here. I think I think the members of law enforcement thought that this might be a trial that
would get revisited, but >> yeah, maybe it'd be a mistrial >> mistrial, but they deliberated until so it was
4day um uh they deliberated for more than six hours at the end of a 4-day jury trial
as said it was in May of this year and they found Allison Davis not guilty of the murder of her husband's death. And
as much as I want to have a strong opinion here, Captain, I look at this and I've looked at it and looked at it
and looked at it. Don't have a strong opinion. My my only strong opinion is I get why they charged her. I get why they
brought it to trial. I also fully understand why the jury said they're not saying she didn't kill her
husband. They're saying we didn't find >> we don't have enough to tell us that she
did. And that's the key here. This is where like did she do it? Don't know. But here's what I do know. The
prosecution told you a story with holes in it. Well, we think she murdered him. Well, why? Don't know. With what? Don't
know. But there's so many parts of their story of we don't know. >> And then the defense teams, their story
is pretty complete. We have this expert that says this is what happened to Kevin. So that backs up all of the story
that Allison gave us. And we have nobody saying that she is capable of this crime. We have no history of violence.
We have no criminal record. Even after the verdict is read, her mother-in-law says, "I accept the
findings. She is still my daughter-in-law." And and to me, that that that's some weight to it, too. She
sat there in that trial and she's not coming out with, "Well, I don't care what that jury says. I know what I
heard. I know what I know." She said she accepts the verdict. Yeah. >> Yeah. And she says she's always going to
be my daughter-in-law. So again, I think it's I can see where the suspicion was and and I [clears throat]
applaud them for to go and for just for the idea of something seems off, let's look into it. But the problem is they're
like something seems off, let's look into it halfass. And by having it be halfass, you had a
halfass trial, halfass evidence, halfass story of what happened. And and yes, they don't have to prove what the motive
was, and they don't have to tell you um 100% why what happened happened. But if you can't tell a complete story and fill
in the gaps for the jury, I I don't see how the jury could come to a solid conclusion. I think it just goes down to
we have two experts. It's kind of like when there's two fouls on a football field, they cancel each
other out. So now there's no no foul on the play. Repeat the down. And I think that's what
happened here. And so it's like I could see anybody that's into true crime should dive into this case. Don't just
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Death and Questions /// Kevin Davis /// Part 2

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Alison Davis called 911, her voice frantic as she reported her husband had fallen down the stairs. Police and EMTs rushed to the New Haven, Indiana home, prepared to save a life. Inside, they found Kevin Davis at the bottom of the stairwell. His injuries were far worse than expected - he was barely clinging to life. Just hours earlier, the couple had returned home from a night out with friends. By morning, tragedy struck: one person was dead, and the other faced difficult questions.

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Brief Summary

The episode covers the homicide investigation of Kevin Davis and the trial of his wife Allison, who was found not guilty.

Key points

James Patterson's Revelation. Bestselling author James Patterson claims to know who killed Marilyn Monroe.
Suspicious Circumstances. Multiple medical professionals express doubts about the nature of Kevin Davis's death.
Allison's 911 Call. Detectives question the urgency in Allison's 911 call after Kevin's fall.
Conflicting Stories. Multiple family members provide different accounts of the night Kevin died, raising questions about the truth.
The Medic's Statement. A medic's report suggests Allison hadn't seen Kevin for a while, contradicting her earlier claims.
Trial Delays. Allison sits in jail for 17 months before her trial begins, raising concerns about the process.

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This isn't looking right to me.

An EMS worker's suspicion about the case.

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Tension

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