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has a lot of claims I mean we're not going to hear about Bigfoot we're not going to hear
about alien abduction but there's going to be a lot of interesting claims in this case the Heather te case was
dormant for nearly 9 years but in 2004 a detective from Medina Ohio this is detective Scott Thomas came up with an
intriguing theory he believed that it was possible that Heather had been abducted by somebody else this was
Henderson Kentucky native Chris below this is all laid out in an expose in the akine Beacon Journal that ran in early
February of 2005 detective Thomas was assigned to the Ohio Cold Case of missing woman
Katherine Fetzer Katherine vanished in November of 1991 after leaving a note for her husband that she was going to
the mall but she was actually having an affair this is with a married man the man that we just mentioned Chris below
the two met where all great love stories start at the plasty Coat Factory this is
where the two worked they were seeing each other on the sly for months when Catherine
vanished the affair came to light and Chris denied any involvement in her disappearance and was not cooperating
with the investigation Madina detective David shows spent 11 years trying to pin her
death on Chris he determined that Chris purchased a handgun at a Medina gun show
17 days before Catherine vanished then Chris sold the gun at a pawn shop after the detective questioned him about
Catherine then in early 1992 Chris's third ex-wife told police that on the day Catherine vanish Chris met a friend
at the couple's apartment and this friend helped him move a vehicle that was the same model as the missing
woman's the friend Richard Lawrence told police that Chris drove his Jeep over to
Lawrence's house and asked him to help him move a car later that day Lawrence followed Chris driving a blue Ford Tempo
to Southern Madina County where below left the car near some railroad tracks this was the same make in model and
color of the car that Catherine the missing woman was driving right Lawrence observed that Chris sat in the car for a
few minutes and appeared to be wiping down the steering wheel and door before he got out of the vehicle Lawrence also
noticed a blue tarp that CHR used to cover his motorcycle was in the back of the Jeep this he says was unusual
because Chris never left his motorcycle uncovered Lawrence also knew that Chris was having the affair but he didn't know
with whom he later heard that a missing woman named Katherine fetzer's car had been found right where he had seen Chris
Park the vehicle so soon after this event Captain Chris drove the Jeep back to Kentucky where he was from neither
the white Jeep nor the blue tarp has ever been seen again or ever located when looking into this new suspect Chris
below the Ohio detectives came to believe that Chris might have dumped the Jeep in the Ohio River on the Kentucky
side in a deep spot this is a real thing that stood out for me in this case they
believe that he dumped the Jeep in the Ohio River on the Kentucky side in a deep spot where locals often disposed of
vehicles which would then get Swept Away by the river so if you know of this spot
if this spot actually exists and it does exactly what we just said and you're a very dangerous person that needs to hide
conceal discard get rid of evidence well you got your spot and that's a scary thing when we have people with basically
with what our allegations are against this guy well I'm not so sure that this River can take away the car that I'm not
a scientist so I don't know how that would work but what it does do is once it's emerged in that water especially
for a long period of time and might take law enforcement a long period of time to
find that vehicle now any evidence that's in that vehicle is probably going to be washed away well and this spot
just so happens to be let less than a mile from where Heather Teague was abducted in
1995 so we have these detectives that are convinced that Chris murdered Katherine Fetzer in
1991 they resorted to mailing letters to Chris pretending to be a relative of the
missing woman of Catherine's pleading for information about her Chris ignored them he did time in an Ohio prison after
serving time for stealing money from a little team in Holmes County and then moved back to Henderson Kentucky where
he was from this in August of 1994 I mean think about this this guy's a real piece of [ __ ] I mean one three
wives every time that we have a real piece of [ __ ] it's always they got three wives they it's like there they might be
pieces of [ __ ] but they're they're good con men and then this [ __ ] or they're
really bad at choosing wives yeah no um but no but then this [ __ ] steals money from a little league team
yeah that's pretty low down that's that's pretty low down yeah that's Bad News Bears but the thing here Captain is
not only do these detectives believe that he is responsible for The Disappearance of Katherine Fetzer but
they also believe that he might have killed other women as well yeah a serial killer Evansville Indiana police picked
ped Chris up in November of 2003 and they went to an apartment where he was living with a woman and her five
kids and arrested him on accusations that he had molested his niece detective Thomas took this opportunity to
interview Chris he confronted Chris with Katherine's missing person's case and question him for 4 hours by the end
Chris confessed that he shot Catherine in his apartment in Madina Ohio detective Scott tried to get to the
bottom of where he hid the body right Chris told him that he ditched her in a dumpster but detectives found evidence
that Chris once bragged about knowing how to quote get rid of bodies this by burying them in a shallow grave and
putting lime on top or feeding them to Hogs which will eat everything including clothing and Bones this was quoted from
the 14news.com story I guess after this confession Captain Chris was extradited to Ohio his
attorney struck a deal with prosecutors who without the body they don't have this Catherine's body right so they were
kind of backed into a corner here and felt that they had to take what they could get so the deal was that Chris
agreed to serve a 11 to 18 years for manslaughter which is obviously not enough but you also have all these
accusations that he's also a child molester so at some point you're you got to get this animal off the streets so he
can't hurt anybody else he was 39 years old at the time and he started serving his sentence in the fall of
204 so anybody out there looking for a future ex-husband would be happy to know he should be released in
2021 no the answer is no so who is this guy you want to look into this guy for a
little bit piece of [ __ ] is what he is right I I second that uh Chris below was
a real wild one and not in a good way born and raised in Kentucky and the product of an unhappy marriage and even
though he chased a lot of women it looks like he had a real disdain for them he had a tattoo on his chest depicting a
horned woman which he described to investigators as showing women as quote blood sucking [ __ ] end quote and
despite being a real [ __ ] Chris was married five times that we know of oh my God and was engaged when he was finally
busted so five times that we know of sounds like he was working on number six so what does all of this have to do with
our case with the missing person case Heather teag well they already proved that he knew the area well that's right
he he grew up in the area and in November of 2004 Kentucky State Police confirmed that Chris was under
investigation as a person of interest in The Disappearance of Heather te MH after
the Ohio detective started looking into unsolved cases of missing women in Indiana and Kentucky places that they
knew that Chris lived well a question for you did do do we have any drug history with this Chris guy I don't know
I can't say for certain that we have anything on the books uh my suspicions are that yes that
that that we would because because we have some Onan ofan use with W with Heather so I'm just wondering if that
could be the connection there yeah I think there could be all kinds of possibilities when we talk about this
guy so let let's get into a little bit about what the detectives discovered in regards to Chris and their suspicions of
him they knew that Chris was living in the Henderson Kentucky area in August of 1995 when Heather was abducted on the
day that Marty Dill killed himself Chris abruptly moved to Georgia this is all very strange he's living in the area
when she was abducted and on the day that Marty Dill killed himself he gets up and he he takes it to Georgia mhm
Chris and Heather Teague apparently had some acquaintances in common so they may
have there's a chance they may have known each other but what we do have here is at least saying that hey people
that they knew knew each other Heather made a call from a pay phone outside of a bar near Henderson this is the night
before she vanished this bar was frequented by both Chris below and Marty Dill right so it doesn't have to be one
or one or the other could be both there you go that's where my mind goes yeah cuz I mean that suicide like I said
doesn't make a lot of sense I mean yes you don't want to go back to jail but it's a it's essentially a drug charge
but if you have a murder charge now now you're facing hold different kind of sentence those are what I think are the
most damning thoughts about what could connect him to this case we do have one more statement and this is from The acan
Beacon Journal where they have people that are saying that Chris hung out at the beach where Heather was last seen he
was known by these people according to their claims to drink and do drugs there I do want to point out we also covered
that article that says 5 to 600 people may have been at that somewhere along that beach that day mhm so it seems to
me like most of the people in the area went to that beach so I that that whole thing I don't think is such a big deal I
find the bar thing really interesting though yeah here's what's fascinating though you this woman she Heather was a
pretty lady she catches your eye you at some point see her leave you now know her vehicle as you're driving around
maybe that Beach area you spot her vehicle and and like we said she wasn't in the major populated spot of the beach
she was kind of secluded so is it possible that these two individuals were hanging out and saw
her vehicle parked and said hey remember that girl from last night and maybe there was conversations that they had
with that girl with Heather that night and here's another thing in regards to Chris's
appearance the physical traits of we're going to quote he from The akan Beacon Journal just because they really
summed it up very succinctly and they stated quote outwardly he would alternate between an
attractive confident man sporting a cowboy hat for a photo that he passed out to women that that he was intrigued
by that he wanted to talk to wait he would uh pass out a photo he carried a photo with him here you go ladies eat
your heart out well I think what they're trying to point out here Captain is that
sometimes this man had the ability to appear to be cleancut right while other times he appeared to be strung out
looking a mountain man with unkempt hair and a scraggly beard bushy hair and the
beard yeah there was one thing though that Chris could not hide whether it be under a cowboy hat or you know when he
did have that cleancut look he could not hide a peculiar genetic Quirk that gave
him kind of a distinct look when resting at his sides his arms were bowed and His
Hands turned in a awkwardly position so his palms faced backward with his thumbs against his
thighs this is a little strange what what could this possibly matter people are wondering so here's where the case
starts to go off the rails while looking into Heather te's file in it the detective found the composite drawing of
the scraggly bearded man whom Tim wal described to investigators as the man he saw dragging Heather into the woods
right and Thomas believed that he saw in the drawing evidence exhibited by that physical nature of Chris with the hands
turn turned inward right Tim wal told investigators that when he witnessed the abduction he said quote I remembered
everything about the guy especially how he held his hands turned in and in my humble garage opinion the
drawing compiled based on Tim wal's memory it does resemble Chris well and we have no eyewitnesses coming forward
saying that they saw Chris's vehicle so that makes a lot of sense because we do know that this Bronco was in the area
mhm so again points back to two individuals and also maybe you commit suicide because you know how big of a
piece of [ __ ] Chris is and if he is like you said possibly a serial killer then
we know that he's capable of murdering you as well it's really difficult because we do have the witness who seem
to be very certain that it was in fact Marty Dill that he saw that day on the beach but we do have a statement of him
later after he saw the photo of Chris he says you know whether he still thought it was Marty or who took Heather
or if it could have been Chris he says quote if you asked me five years ago I would have said yes this in regards to
Marty Dill now he's saying now I don't know right as for Heather's mother really she didn't know what to
make of this development because remember she had been told by the state police that Marty did this so let's
let's talk about this composite sketch that police used to to lead them to Marty Dill first of all it's pretty
detailed I mean considering that the witness was half a mile away and looking through a telescope right it seems a
little dubious that uh Tim wtha would have observed such a small detail as to the way that the suspect's hands lie
against his thighs mhm I find that look Tim wtha has come under quite a bit of attack and a lot of it I don't Sarah is
not going to love hearing me say this I don't agree with most of it one thing I do find very strange about his story is
this whole thing about the the way that the suspect's hands were against his thighs we have his statement that this
took place very quickly and we know that two things according his to his statement were going on at the time one
the suspect is carrying a revolver in one hand and at some point the suspect grabs the hair of Heather Teague pulls
her up and twist it so this this whole thing takes place in a very short window of time and for a good deal of
that both hands are occupied both hands are doing something where they would not
be resting naturally at their sides or unnaturally at their sides right so I find
to be either either it's very convenient now that we have a new suspect or it's just I don't I don't really know what to
make of it I'm I'm very skeptical of it to say the least well in In fairness to Heather's mother I mean when you go
through this uh traumatic situation and you're not getting answers and and at at
one point they're going it's this guy 100% And then they go H wait a second maybe it's this guy guy mhm and then you
have the possibility like we already said could be both guys and then so and then you find out that the
eyewitnesses has some relationships possibly with law enforcement and then you start questioning like we said
before he you know all records point that this eyewitness didn't call 911 that he end up calling um the
sheriff department dep or the police department in that area mhm which is not crazy but if I see
something that I think possibly could be violence especially against a female call 911 immediately
but we have a gap in time uh and I think what also probably has really rubbed Heather's mother the wrong way is every
time initially that she was dealing with the police she was also dealing with the
eyewitness mhm and I think that would raise some you know red flags why didn't you just talk to them and get his
statements but he seems to be very invested into this investigation and look again if you're a
true crime fan then you're going to go hey there plenty of times that suspects will uh
insert themselves into an investigation is that what this eyewitness is doing and that can just play tricks on your
mind when you're not getting answers the the difficult for the difficult thing for Tim to have been involved in
this is just that in my opinion he could have only been involved there would have
had to have been other people involved and I say that because we do do know for a fact that he did call police right
whether the story he's giving is true or a complete lie we know that he called the police and gave a statement of
something he says that he's seeing what we also know to be true is we have the videotape proof evidence of her vehicle
entering the beach that day so if in fact that was her driving her vehicle and I mean the notes say here that the
video tape I've not seen the videotape but everything I found says that the videotape also shows Heather walking
down to the beach by herself mhm if all of those things happen then what that tells me if Tim is a bad guy if he's
lying if he is somehow involved in her disappearance then he is still just calling it in from across the water and
something else was going on and this might have been a bigger a whole bigger nasty thing that was going on that
that's really hard to pinpoint just one person well impossible to pinpoint one person for being
responsible before we move on from the composite sketch though Captain I do want to point out hold on I do want to
point out that he was also with his wife at the time and so if he's involved then
his wife would have to be involved as well the thing with the composite sketch according to Sarah and
I I like this I like this questioning that she has going on regarding the sketch itself because she says at some
point hey I believe what they did was they reverse engineered this whole sketch meaning they didn't sit Tim down
and he describes the guy and then they pull up the paper and go oh this is what he described no she's saying there's a
possibility that they were drawing a picture of Marty Dill right and remember His Old driver's license in fact does
match the description of the composite sketch right so they could have pulled out from their records and then use that
to draw composite draw and nobody really will know for sure we do have the Kentucky State Police on record saying
no we drew the guy as described by our witness and and we do have we we do have Tim on record who says look all I know
is I saw a guy take a girl off the beach and I described what he looked like yeah
but you know what this sounds like remember with making a murder where they have um a lineup a photo photograph
lineup and they end up putting Stephen Avery in that lineup it sounds very similar to that mhm where it's like okay
well we have some eyewitnesses that maybe saw this Bronco we know who owns that Bronco we know this guy is kind of
a shady character so draw him draw him up and that's what Sarah is pointing out she's like look that that whole bit
slipped through the cracks and they screwed up by reverse engineering this composite sketch and oh I figured it out
because you didn't put two and two together that that this guy doesn't actually still look like this he may
have looked like this at one time but he doesn't at the time of the abduction now
the tricky thing as we've already pointed out is Chris below does not I mean he looks like the composite as well
mhm so it's I mean it's really just a very difficult thing we even have a statement by Sarah the mother who says
at some point where she actually believes that maybe the composite was somehow put together after they were
already on to to Chris which I with Marty I'm sorry which is not so much different than what she was saying years
ago we're going to segue just briefly here captain and look at whether Chris would be connected to any other missing
women as stated by the police detective Thomas believed that since Chris worked as a truck driver along routes that
included North and South Carolina Florida Alabama and Louisiana that he should be looked at in other cases of
missing women around the country there does seem to be reason to suspect that he could be a repeat offender or even
possibly a serial killer as you pointed out and here are some reasons why his half-sister Melissa told police that her
brother kept a shoe box of items that were suspicious she said a reporter to a reporter quote he pulled out the box one
time and said if anything ever happens to me hold on to this so what was in the Box according to Melissa in it were
letters new photos right and items of jewelry but it also contained flyers for five or six missing women she said that
Chris had moved the items in the shoe box to a metal box with a lock after he found out that she looked through it and
had taken the box with him when he left investigators executed numerous search warrants looking for this box in
December of 2004 multiple agencies joined in the search for this box when they searched Chris's fiance's home they
also opened up a storage unit that was rented by Chris they're looking for that lockbox they're looking for according to
the newspapers items that could connect him to The Disappearance of Heather Teague as well they did not find the
lockbox but they did find a certified mail receipt that placed Chris in St Cloud Florida in 1998 at the time when a
woman by the name of Mary kushu vanished after leaving a local bar she's never been found either and her
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episode or two just on this Christopher character if anybody wants to look him up it's Christopher J below or below or
Bellow how however you want to pronounce it but it's spelled b e l o w look him up he's suspected in a lot of different
cases some of them seem to be a bit of a leap and others seem to have quite a bit
more weight to them but he's an interesting one to consider we won't totally move off of him though because I
want to touch on this real quick in regards to the case that we're talking about this is from a November 2004
article that ran in 14news.com actually a series of articles about Chris being considered a person of
interest and it contains a new Theory one that you were dancing around earlier and this states that in the article it
reveals some information about the videos that we talked about earlier where we have the farmers who were
setting up a surveillance so to speak of the area of the day in question and the
article States regarding this video that the investigators believe that the suspect that Dill Marty
Dill is behind the wheel of his Bronco remember the video captured her car her walking to the beach and the Bronco
right and they also say that the video captured possibly Dill behind the wheel of the Bronco with maybe Heather being
in the bed of the truck and investigators say it appears that Heather's car may have been ran sacked
and the person who is doing it was probably not well is hiding from the camera I'm guessing that the camera
would have been obvious to people in the area mhm most likely to the right of the
car where the corn stalks have been crushed down the investigators speculate that Dill Marty Dill drove the Bronco
while someone else assaulted Heather in the back of the vehicle and they believe
that that someone could be Chris below intriguing right we have two suspects that both look good for this abduction
separately but also together as well well we have a questionable eyewitness questionable as far as the family is
questioning uh his involvement well I think this is where we warn everybody to hang on because this case will get even
stranger as we go because there is an entirely different set of circumstances to consider and this will take us down a
whole other path to the possible truth yeah some rabbit holes Sarah Teague says that the FBI which were involved in
Heather's case came to her in 2005 and stated that agents discovered evidence that sat in the evidence room at the
Kentucky State Police and was never tested the state police had screwed up the investigation the agency recommended
that Sarah pursue the case at the federal level she should have Heather legally declared dead if she did so it
would allow the bi to provide her with their documentation about the case pursuant to Foya request let's Ponder
this just for a second right evidence in the custody of the State Police sat collecting dust rather than being tested
all of this time yeah in the face of the same agency telling the family that Marty Dill killed their daughter and
then killed himself that's the problem though is sometimes with these cases you have law enforcement going hey we think
this is the guy we just can't prove it okay now we have to move on to other cases but this whole time you had some
evidence that was sitting there and you believe you you you've identified the victim you believe you've identified the
per let's let's test some evidence right and see if we can close a case I agree with you so after after doing as
instructed after declaring having her declared dead Sarah got her hands on on the FBI Files which were of course
heavily redacted now we have only Sarah's word for what these files contained they have not been made public
although the find Heather tag.com web page has some brief excerpts so all of this information is according to Sarah
now this is some of what she said she has uncovered an unnamed e FBI agent wrote in a 2005 memo that Heather Teague
was last seen on a boat ramp not on the beach on a boat ramp 2 hours after the key witness called police FBI documents
indicate more than one person may have been involved in Heather's disappearance Sarah believes that Heather may have
been going into the witness protection program based on some of the documents stating quote WP program on them one of
the documents ex served for public view on Sarah's site written by an FBI agent in 2005 includes the statement presently
attention is primarily being focused on the strong possibility of drug SL prostitution strip club public
corruption linked to Heather teague's abduction investigation continues a 2007 FBI synopsis mentioned
mention that something redacted in the memo was being kept a secret by the Kentucky State Police at the present
time no family member attorney is aware of the same the records don't explain why the FBI started looking into
Heather's disappearance Sarah said an FBI agent told her it was because the case was potentially connected to
another case in which the agency had interest the FBI docu ments on her site are very heavily redacted and almost
impossible to make heads or tals of one mentions a source has heard that certain
public officials in Henderson strongly enforce meth violations in an effort to promote and protect their cocaine
business it also mentions Uncle Sam's strip club another says that there was a club in hold on you're going you're
going over this too fast for me Uncle Sam's strip club meaning that the government has a strip club no that or
that there's an actual strip club called Uncle Sam's there's a strip club called
Uncle Sam's strip club Okay the reason why I'm going over this very fast is we're talking about documents Where damn
near everything has been blacked out on them so all you're getting is little bits and pieces and so we don't know
what their relationship is if anything that's the key thing there if anything is to this case but these are the things
that they chose not to redact and if in fact this did come from the FBI as Sarah
says it did then this is the breadcrumbs that we have yeah I mean there's a lot of it it seems like there's a
possibility because we know that Heather had some drug use that maybe there's some possibilities that she was working
with um law enforcement possibly to set up a sting for people that's one Theory and then and and and go with me on this
but the idea is that there was a sting that day it didn't go well she was taken captive and the reason why some of this
stuff hasn't been tested or we don't have answers from law enforcement is because since they were working with
Heather that they have to cover up that they made a mistake and they weren't able to protect her that's one of the
claims that are out there right and the way that that theory kind of goes in plays to the people that we've already
mentioned in this whole mess is the possibility of our witness actually being in the drug trade
himself who is phoning in a phony abduction that may involve the two suspects that we've already mentioned
one or both of them right we know that we have a Dead Man Marty Dill who was running some kind of growing selling
marijuana operation and that maybe somehow a lot of these people are in cahoots together
and he's phoning in something kind of a staged abduction that's meant to look like something else when really they're
they're just trying to shut up this young woman who is is looking to to put a lot of people behind bars right again
as said I I don't know we have to point out that that these documents they come from Sarah it take them for what what
they are or for what I guess for what we're being told that they are grain of salt we don't know if anything if this
has to do with the actual Abduction of her daughter it does mention a club in town called rumors really all this is
hinting at though there are rings that are doing illegal activities and making money doing illegal activities and
either Heather was aware of these or she was involved in taking them down that's
what that is meant to point at another whole mess in this this big case here Captain is the calls themselves the
calls that started it all with the eyewitness who says I witnessed the abduction phones it into police now
there's discrepancy whether 911 was called whether the Indiana state police was called whether the Kentucky State
Police was called and then transferred to Indiana State Police it gets all very messy very quick but
what we do know did happen is Sarah was eventually able to finally listen to this call because at some point she gets
suspicious of the eyewitness and of the call itself and at the very least says hey I'm the victim's mother at the very
least you could let me hear the call right well well and look I I just want to point out that there's so many cases
that we have looked into or that are a part of the True Crime world and when there's not
answers you start becoming suspicious of almost anybody so I I think that's what has
definitely happened in this case but I just want to say that that has happened with a lot of cases and then you that's
when you start getting the these ideas of these bigger conspiracies but again here's an individual the
eyewitness that has inserted themselves and law enforcement allowed that to happen so again I think it's within
the within her rights to go hey I'm suspicious of this person because you have allowed him to be here and to be so
present during this investigation well and I'm going to try to go through this as efficiently as possible possible
let's say because this is a long story and there's a lot of twists and turns in this portion of the story as well and I
don't want to lose anybody along the way so I'm going to try to make it efficient
but before we get into that it's it's not just a suspicion of other people being involved or or maybe your mind
runs wild and you go to these big conspiracy theories or anything like that it's also at some point you just go
maybe this group cannot solve this case maybe this group cannot figure out what happened to my loved one give me a damn
shot at it give me a shot at it I know that I don't have the resources that other places do maybe I can rally the
troops and maybe we can figure this thing out and look this is a cold case and it was cold years ago it didn't just
get cold last week this thing has been cold on ice for a while so I'm I'm fully with Sarah Teague here the short of it
to start us off here captain and regards to the call the eyewitness call to 911 would be that she says look I want
to hear the call and can you can you produce the call and give it to me can I get a file or a copy of this call she
gets to run around saying hey it's on real toore or we're having trouble locating it blah blah blah right but
this eventually ends up with her finally hearing it sitting down with law enforcement to hear it in 2008 M and she
says hey I heard a digital copy it wasn't real toore like I've been told all these years so that is going to
cause some suspicion on her part well Sarah te sued hold on a second yes it might cause some suspicion
but it's very possible that they took any realtoreal tape that they had and and converted into digital format
because it would save a lot of space well of course of course I know that you know that Sarah teue probably very well
knows that she's just going if it was so damn hard to get a hold of it for me to
hear it years ago why all of a sudden this and why is it not what you told me it was this whole time right so she sued
the State Police in 2016 this for denying her open records request relating to that call itself
this motivated by what her attorney says was a discrepancy in the call itself meaning the details that are given
during that call there's a discrepancy between what they heard when they listened to it in 2008 and then when
they heard it again in 2016 when they got permission to hear the call again it was played for them by
a state police detective that was assigned to the case now Sarah and her lawyer believed that it was different as
said as the one that they heard eight years earlier her lawyer said that the state detective told Sarah that the real
toore tape of the 911 call had not been sent to the FBI until 2012 and it was returned in digital
format in 2014 let's think about this for a second part of the reason why she's told hey we
can't produce this tape for you is we sent it off to the FBI M she saying when I finally heard it when I when they
produced it in 2008 it was a digital copy now in 2016 they're saying hey it wasn't sent
off to the FBI until 2012 when we got it back we got it back in digital format in
2014 the the stories either they don't know what's going on and they're perfectly
innocent and it's just they they've really screwed up the chain of custody on this this good piece of
evidence or they're telling them a story it's it's either one or the other it's either you drop the ball or you're
making this up as you go along and it feels like that and again if you feel like law enforcement is making stuff up
as it go along that's why I just I I feel so bad for the victim's families in a lot of
these cases I mean you look at the Amy mahalic case I mean and what that can do to parents and and
you're almost like grasping at straws and and and sometimes you hear people make fun of the victim's families
for looking for answers from psychics and from Terror readings and from wherever you know what I mean mhm but I
think it's just it just shows like you said if you think the law enforcement is telling you a story
then what hope do you have yeah I mean from the outside looking in here I mean obviously we're not privy to a lot of
the closed door meetings that Sarah had with law enforcement and mind you she is
talking to several different agencies she is represented by an attorney as well but I mean it looks like there is
something something fishy going on something and and maybe again maybe it's not anyone's fault per se maybe they're
not they're not puppeteering this whole Magic act but maybe they they just don't
they don't have the answer but don't make them up don't don't produce an answer if you just don't know
but it's also though difficult like you said we don't know the information that she has from law enforcement because
they had to disclose all that to her right but some of these leads or some of these things that they worked you know
like oh there's an eyewitness that saw her on a boat dock we don't know where that lead took them right and what we
end up having here is you know she wants these this recording or recordings depending on what whose side you believe
she wants them released in October of 2017 a judge agreed with Sarah because the state police their concerns about
releasing the 911 tape they're saying hey this is an open investigation we don't want this
released and the judge comes out and says look your concerns and the way you've explained
them to the court are vague speculative and extremely remote base right and he ruled that look it was a
complete disregard of Sarah's rights willfully violating the St the state open records law and so the judge
ordered that the state police release the call or calls again depending on who you believe and related chain of custody
information to Sarah and her attorney at that time so now they're given this information it's now Theirs to do what
they will with it in January of 2018 her attorney filed a motion for contempt and a motion
to compel the Motions claim that the state police failed to provide the records as ordered by the
judge so they've had four months to produce after the court ordered them to do so and they had not by this point
they had produced a grand total of zero materials that were required by the court so the judge ordered the state
police to pay Sarah's attorney's fees and cost and penalties which totaled over 23,000 well which is good for her but
yeah cuz she shouldn't have to go broke fighting them again for something she already won right but that's
again like like you've always said it's like is it evil or stupid if if you're just being stupid and that's why you
haven't given it to her or you're trying to be like oh well she sued us so we're
just just going to be uh pain in the ass about it but it's not affecting their pockets it's affecting the taxpayer
Pockets I imagine you know cuz she's probably suing the department she's not suing
individual detectives or officers and so good that they have to pay for her lawyer fees but it also just
makes it seem evil like there's something nefarious going on here like they're trying to cover up something
look and I'm not coming after the Kentucky State Police that's not what I came to the garage to do today so I
don't when I leave the garage here I don't want anybody to be left with that impression that that colel that we set
out to destroy the Kentucky State Police because I'm sure it's it's a fine outfit
it's a fine organization but what I see here in this case does not reflect that I I drive through that beautiful state
many many times who do not want any trouble at all but what it causes me to question
is multiple things what did they know or suspect about the victim involved here you know we saw these things of maybe
witness protection or maybe she knew of some bad dealings going on and she was informing law enforcement about that but
that that makes you take it a step further then we have outside agencies involved we know the FBI was involved
because they gave redacted files to Sarah this is per Sarah's statement to the public right and we also have reason
to believe that other agencies outside agencies were involved this is the detectives from Ohio coming down and
saying hey this Chris guy that's been uh snooping around your possibly snooping around your beach and might be linked to
your missing person's case down here we think he's good for some disappearances in our state and probably in some other
states and then you wonder well if they weren't willing to work with the Teague family how well did they work with the
FBI how well did they work with these other agencies and look we say it all the time here in the garage it takes a
village to raise a child we all know that sometimes it takes a village to solve a case sometimes it take a v takes
a village to protect our children and to protect our people you got to work together and I question if they did that
and if they did how much effort did they put into working with with these others
well and sometimes you you can raise a child with a pack of wolves but look th this uh department needs to get their
[ __ ] together this is a this is a victim that again you dro the ball so stop continuing to drop the ball and it makes
again stupid or evil it starts making you question though even though I I don't think there's any evidence that
this eyewitness is a bad dude or that he has this hor horrible criminal record but if he is somehow tied in in with law
enforcement then are they protecting him in some kind of manner it it makes it very
questionable and um yeah so well the other thing though too is you know we have a situation where whatever happened
to Heather she was 23 years old on that day when she vanished when she went missing today she would be what 48 years
old we're coming up on 25 years on this case so we're talking about currently a whole new generation of officers in that
state police outfit a whole new generation so there there's no reason for them to cover up
for past transgressions against you know the the old the old regime let's say uh
but they also just might not be aware of what was going on 25 years ago this case
is really a confusing mess of rumors allegations changing stories and false leads it's almost impossible to make out
what actually happened to our victim to Heather teag yeah well when you have rumors that possibly that she was
working for law enforcement possibly working maybe even for the feds then they she enters some kind of witness
protection program but you'd think at some point they would have explain this to at least her mother or would had her
um you have all these rumors like that I mean like I was telling you in an interview she doesn't go into it too
much but at one point she says it's possible my daughter was working for the Democrats and you're like what is she
talking about there there's there's no followup in the interview after she says that and but I think again
when we we shouldn't have to question law enforcement as hard as she's had to question law enforcement and I think
once you have to do that that opens up a can of worms and it really makes your brain go anything is possible Bigfoot is
possible aliens are possible you know what I mean well here's some things okay I have to believe that if the FBI
obtained any actual conrete information they would have acted on it rather than just hand the files over to the victim's
mom over to Sarah I agree uh again I believe this case is a confusing mess of rumors and
allegations as a result Heather's fate is really been the subject of all kinds of rumors you discussed some of them and
we discussed the witness protection program Theory a bit look I I purposely do not want to go through all of these
rumors because there's not enough time and really a lot of them these rumors run the gamut and most
don't track most of them don't have any carry any weight to him at all some of the more interesting ones though that I
found along the way maybe she was buried in concrete in Bluff City near a trailer
this is on Second Street where she was rumored to have been killed other rumors are she was killed and fed to Hogs this
was backed up by a redacted FBI document regarding ing a jailhouse snitch your favorite kind of snitch there Captain
who reported that he heard two guys and one said he killed Heather in Webster County and fed her two hogs
there's another rumor that Heather was the victim of a snuff film Sarah Teague seems to have believed this at some
point early on in the investigation here's another one Heather was accidentally run over while trying
to escape a moving vehicle either the chevet or the Bronco both already mentioned in our story she was then put
in a box and dumped into the Green River this one came from a brother-in-law of Marty Dill who said
she died while trying to escape of all of the rumors and possibilities this is one that that I
can't get out of my mind I cannot shake this one this one feels to me to be much
different than the other rumors out there I also have seen several cases where people are have dumped victim's
bodies into this Green River so very interesting that this rumor includes one or both of the vehicles that we've
already mentioned and this kind of notorious Green River what does her mother believe well as summarized in the
messenger Inquirer quote Sarah Teague believes that her daughter was involved with
illegal drugs and may have been about to expose powerful people she has said the
case involved drugs prostitution and public corruption and that Heather met with a Henderson police officer the
night before she was abducted Sarah said that Heather met up with this same officer 3 weeks earlier this all points
to Heather being a CI and informant for the police and Tim wal she believes may have been working with the cops or made
up his story altogether to hide something else further she has insinuated that Marty Dill might have
been murdered we'd like to state that we've have seen nothing to verify these theories now this Theory seems to hold I
guess some weight on maybe its face and probably at the core of it as well however this theory has
some wide wides spreading tentacles and the theory quickly becomes complicated and very
unlikely what's strange about Heather's case is the manner of the abduction because if somebody planned to
take Heather whether a a gang of drug dealers corrupt local authorities or someone who was stalking her a public
beach in broad daylight does not seem like the best option for a discreet kidnapping not when you knew that the
night before she was at a bar yes she's at a bar or you you having a one-on-one meeting with her earlier on you could
have snatched her then in fact what I'm pointing out is it it seems downright Brazen and way too risky if that's if
that's what you're trying to carry out and not impossible though not impossible but I also think that it's
out of the question that this would be a witness protection situation yeah too much money spent too
many resources I feel like this type of violent forced abduction seems more much
more like a typical crime of opportunity some guy or some guys driving by or heading to the beach saw Heather Park
walking alone to a secluded part of the Sandy Waterfront decided to grab her whether it was Dill whether it was Chris
whether it was both I mean really it's it's anyone's guess at this point I have to think that
the big fork in the road in this case is very simple it lies with the witness reporting the abduction if this report
is truthful then this was very likely a sexually motivated crime likely perpetrated by some stranger or possibly
strangers working together if his report is a lie and creates this false narrative then maybe the tentacles
stretch as wide and deep as Sarah says and as wide as she believes however Captain I see a mother who has
worked so incredibly hard to locate her daughter to bring her daughter home even
if she has already passed away and out of this hurt and Desperation one could easily begin to believe in their
heart that the answer has to be a complicated one or else by now we would know what
happened fortunately we are currently living in an age when cold cases 20 25 30 some years later are finally getting
solved and time and time again we see the answer is usually rather simple a cruel display of how someone just simply
has no empathy and really no basic human decency the attacker is often some violent deviate and because he has no
heart puts his selfish disgusting wants ahead of someone else's beautiful life I
pray that Sarah gets the answers that she and her family so very much deserve after all of this time and heartache
Sarah was so dedicated to finding Heather and so vocal in her advocacy for missing persons in general that she was
appointed as a Kentucky Outreach coordinator for Q the community United effort Center for missing persons Tim
wal has been dragged through the mud in this case he was even told by the Kentucky State Police to leave town for
a while judge Shephard refused to require him to submit to a polygraph or to testify in court on grounds that it
would deter future Witnesses in other cases we hope that one day Heather is found and the answers to all of these
outstanding questions are resolved if you have any information on The Disappearance of Heather Teague her
mother would prefer that you contact her her email address is sarah. 5@gmail.com
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Back in the Garage again! The Captain and Nic discuss a strange disappearance. Heather Teague was sunbathing at Newburgh Beach on August 26, 1995. A witness told authorities that he saw a Caucasian man approach Heather. The abductor allegedly grabbed Teague by the hair and dragged her into the woods at gunpoint. If you have any information please send to Sarah.Teague5@gmail.com

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Brief Summary

Heather Teague's disappearance involves Chris Below, questionable eyewitness accounts, and potential police cover-ups surrounding drug-related activities.

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True Crime Investigation Begins. Hosts introduce a case with intriguing claims and a dormant investigation.
Chris Below's Dark Past. Chris Below is suspected of multiple crimes, including the disappearance of Katherine Fetzer.
Witness Testimony Raises Doubts. Witnesses are uncertain about the suspect's identity, complicating the investigation.
Eyewitness Involvement. The eyewitness's role in the investigation raises questions about their credibility.

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