Delphi Murders Revisited /// Part 2 /// 321 | Forensic Files

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when police called 59 year-old John D Miller in for questioning they asked if he knew why they wanted to talk with
them according to our probable cause affidavit he replied April Tinsley it's for twins most notorious cold case April
1st 1988 is the last time anyone saw the eight-year-old girl alive police canvassed her neighborhood after April's
mother Janet Tinsley reported her missing three days later April 4th her body was found in a ditch near County
Road 68 she was molested suffocated her death ruled a homicide a forensic exam of her underwear revealed DNA from an
unknown male but it wasn't until 30 years later that police were able to find a match DNA from condoms found in
2014 matched the DNA in Tinsley's underwear and in 2018 the suspects DNA was narrowed down to two surviving brothers
John Dee Miller was one of them police collected several items from Millers trashcan located near his trailer in the
13,000 block of Main Street in Greybull including three used condoms and three days later July 9th 2018 authorities
learned the DNA from those condoms was consistent with that of the DNA found in Tinsley's underwear in 1988 according to
a probable cause affidavit detectives told Miller they had a DNA match in the rape and murder of Tinsley that's when
Miller admitted to abducting Tinsley from hole-in Street in Fort Wayne taking her to his trailer and having sex with
her he reportedly told police he choked her to death so that she would not report him to the police
then he dumped her body the next day that was just one year ago when in July of 2018 and thank God for the arrests
made in the 30 year old cold case of April Tinsley that clip you heard is from CBS News
now we covered April's case a while ago back in December of 2015 true crime garage episode number seven
with this arrest captain came the speculation that John Miller could also be linked to the Delphi murders Miller
was later convicted of the murder of eight-year-old April Tinsley and sentenced to 80 years in prison
when asked if Miller was a possible suspect Indiana State Police Sergeant Kim Riley would not give a detailed
statement saying only quote we have a thousand names out there and we are still looking at all of them and he
added he was being intentionally vague with that statement in the following month this is August 2018 in an
interview with The Gazette a man that we spoke at length about in yesterday's episode Daniel Nations the man arrested
in Colorado and believed to have some connection possible connection to the Delphi murders as we know he was from
Indiana and wanted by the state of Indiana in this interview he denies any involvement in the Delphi murders
stating that he gave his DNA samples to Indiana authorities and said quote I just want people to know the truth that
I am NOT a monster Nations was sentenced in relation to the threatening charges that he faced in Colorado and eventually
sentenced in Indiana on unrelated charges for failing to register as a sex offender
so his statement Daniel Nations is that he gave DNA samples to Indiana authorities again
does not mean that they have DNA or does do not have DNA and also I'm not asking
anybody out there to believe this sex offender who refuses to check in and is also guilty of swinging a hatchet at
people on the trails out in Colorado that's just his words alright continuing on the timeline we're gonna get another
suspect on November 19th 2018 this is when a man entered a Catholic supply store in a strip mall in st. Louis
County Missouri the man was armed and he ordered women in the store at gunpoint into the back room once there he ordered
them to strip and he sexually assaulted two women before shooting another woman in the head 53 year old Jamie Schmidt
later died after being transported to the hospital the man left the store one of the victims called 911 this call came
in at 3:19 p.m. responding officers found no evidence at the crime scene to help them identify this suspect witness
descriptions to police detailed the perpetrator as a white male about 5 feet 7 inches tall with a heavy build and
aged between 40 and 50 years of age the description was updated by police the next day that the perpetrator was 5 feet
7 inches tall - 5 feet 9 inches tall wearing a paperboy style hat a navy blue Carhartt style jacket and a red white
and black plaid shirt and blue jeans officers interviewed workers at neighboring businesses and a server at
the hotshots sports bar recognized the description of the suspect as matching that of a man who recently left his
business card at the business police sifted through the trash found the card and immediately went to his home and
arrested Thomas Bruce this manhunt lasted just under two days this put Thomas Bruce in the spotlight of the press some
noted his similar stature of five foot seven to five foot nine inches to the then-current suspect description in the
Delphi slangs also he was wearing a flat cap which many suspect the bridge guy is
wearing a flat cap he was wearing a navy blue jacket and blue jeans and his sexual murder attack which he did in
broad daylight not unlike the suspect in the Delphi case Indiana State Police did
look into this possible connection on December 4th 53 year-old Thomas Bruce was charged with no less than 17 felony
counts related to the st. Louis case and could face the death penalty he was later charged in an unrelated case this
resulting from a case from September 2018 that involved kidnapping sexual assault and robbery now what I find
fascinating about this scenario here captain this Thomas Bruce who was obviously a complete monster but there
are some similarities I'm not going to say that he looks like the bridge guy I'm not going to say that he looks
unlike the bridge guy but what really jumps off of the way trying to say immediately is that he he seems to be
wearing a similar outfit to the bridge guy and the outfit is much easier to see in that grainy photo than the face of
the man so if in fact the bridge guys wearing a cap this would have been a similar style hat he's also wearing a
navy blue jacket when he commits this crime and blue jeans and again this is a crime that he didn't mind going into
this place in the middle of broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon and committing this horrible attack that
ends the end result is a murder yeah his we've got no update as far as Thomas Bruce goes if there's been anything more
to connect him to the Delphi case other in just public speculation on January 8th 2019 Charles Andrew eldritch one
ugly bastard age 46 was arrested after allegedly arranging to meet for sex with a police officer who was posing as a
teenage girl hmm he faces multiple charges including two counts of child molestation during the course of news
coverage of his arrest local Indiana residents noticed his mugshot and said it resembles the sketch of a B and
Libby's alleged killer and these calls made their way very quickly to the police tip line after receiving multiple
calls the Indiana State Police made the following statement quote I can promise you this when an arrest is made of a
suspect identified as the alleged perpetrator of the Delphi murders rest assured we will let everyone know it is
important for the public and the media to know that many similar tips and arrests of other persons alleged to be
connected to the Delphi murders occur with some frequency in and outside of Indiana each tip whether it receives
media attention or not is investigated for any connection to the Delphi case and quote calling mr. Eldredge an ugly
bastard is being very kind to him he's fugly yes yes he's fugly not only in looks but personality and character
this is this is a bad guy this is a disgusting person and we talked about him on off the record he I can see some
resemblance a little bit again but it you're questioning what what you think that you're seeing in the picture of the
bridge guy right it's so difficult with them the bridge guy is to me at least in
facial appearance not as fugly as Eldridge hmm he appeared to me the bridge guy appears younger than Eldridge
and probably thinner and smaller Albert Eldridge I don't know if it's just that he's so
ugly but he like when you see pictures of him he he presents like an opposing stature like an opposing figure it's
just there's something very evil about that man well no that phase of him you know that face you make when you eat a
Sour Patch Kid mmm I think that's the kind of face you make when you see his picture yeah it's scary that's scary
just two days after this the Indiana State Police say that there is no evidence thus far to suggest the
Eldridge has any connection to the Delphi case and a news release Randolph County police said quote outside of the
person resembling the sketch there is currently zero evidence that ties him to this case right and he is not a suspect
in the case although we understand that people are trying to help the investigation by doing this with zero
evidence other than a mere appearance it can also hurt or hinder an investigation
the department said in a more recent report captain Dave Burstyn says there is no evidence suggesting or disproving
whether Eldridge is connected to the case and this was a similar thing we're right when this news broke it was like
Facebook with nuts and now it's like this the case is solved even though then it's just you know
waiting around for the next person that somebody's gonna go well this must be it
so so law enforcement is getting a lot of tips from armchair detectives a lot of tips from the community what but you
know what I think is interesting there captain what you were getting into and you're you're exactly right is several
times throughout this investigation and I think that's where the community stands and where the state of Indiana
stands and I would I would venture to say that the the nation as well that this is such a big story such a big case
something that is on a lot of people's minds and hurts everyone's hearts right that they want
this case solved and so there is a bit of a freakout period when when a new person is brought to light as a
potential suspect as potential bridge guy there is that little freakout period that goes on now what I will say where I
will Pat everyone on the back for in the in the general public is that I think that that freakout period was was
tempered a bit from the first time we saw that happen when Daniel nations was arrested in Colorado the hype and the
freakout in the everybody going crazy on the message boards and on social media was so crazy that that actually really
messed up the investigation and messed things up for the the families and the the living victims of this crime and
murders because they were they were stuck for a while walking around going [ __ ] people think this has has been
solved yeah we gotta get the word out that it hasn't been solved yeah there were a lot of people in the general
public that we're walking around thinking after Daniel nations was arrested that this case has been solved
when in fact no no it has not and so that's where I give some kudos because I think we all learned a lesson we learned
a lesson we went yes we've we've learned and and now we've we've able to contain
that excitement a little bit that's how bad everybody wants to see an arrest in this case but we're able to contain that
excitement to the point where we're not freaking out and people thinking that the case is closed again Indiana State
Police have said very clearly when there's an arrest made in the Delphi murders case we will tell everybody
we'll let you know yeah so this this brings us to the two-year anniversary of the disappearance
so February 13th 2019 just earlier this year two year anniversary of lybian Abby's disappearance authorities vowed
that they would bring the person responsible to justice saying this is not a cold case and I
want to back that up everything that I can see captain thing appears to be very far from cold
the prosecutor the Carroll County prosecutor Nicholas McClelland told reporters this
case is not closed we are not done with this investigation there are countless people working on this every day and
captain remember when the public was reminded several times about what the State Police are looking for most people
have seen the posters and the statements by Indiana State Police that say what is
a good tip so what are they looking for and anyone who comes forward with information is asked to include the
following if possible so if you're gonna submit a tip they're hoping that they can get from you your
suspects name the date of birth or approximate age a physical description possibly their address and/or vehicle
information a specific reason why you believe this person should be considered a suspect a possible motive and any
possible connection that that person may have to the Delphi community but this is
not gonna be the last person that people get excited about there's gonna be a murder that takes place and our rest
that's made pretty quickly and this is another one that people are going to start looking into and and trying to
build the connection yes and I feel like they're they're currently are probably two individuals that a lot of people are
focusing on right now and we're gonna get into to both of them this brings us to Saturday March 30th 2019 and this is
when a body is found just about six miles northwest of Kent 'land in Newton County Indiana which is northwest of
Carroll County and Delphi said the city of Delphi is in Carroll County so not terribly far away and the way that this
case works out is the property owner finds a body wrapped in a grayble on a wooden floor of a shipping type
container so some people are familiar with this this was actually used as some type of hunting Shack or has been
referred to at least in the newspapers as a hunting Shack right but sometimes people will take these storage shipping
type containers that you would see on a I don't know on a barge or on a on a train or something like that right and
use them as a as a makeshift building yes sometimes people turn these into houses and people that live in the city
and have never lived in the country may not understand this but there are a lot of people especially hunters that own
property that they may not even live on that they own this property it's out in B Fe somewhere and once in a while when
they can break away from work they go out there and they enjoy hunting and fishing and things like that
well this property the property owner goes out to this what's being referred to as a hunting Shack and finds this
body wrapped in this gray blanket and reports the body this is around 2:38 p.m. on March 30th this whole case has
really inspired a lot of thought and speculation regarding if it in fact could be connected to Delphi and I think
for several reasons one given the proximity to the city of Delphi and to the headlines are woman found tortured
in a hunting Shack or in a shed some of the headlines say shed so I think where we see the outdoor type murder there's
another belief and there's another connection in yeah yeah this may sound I'm sure it doesn't sound silly to
anyone but as we go through these the more that we bring up it might seem a little strange that there's just one
after another after another you got to keep in mind there minute this is as proof that you saw moved to Indiana we
are doing we are doing Indiana no favors in this episode that's this episode these last two episodes
have not been sponsored by Indiana we're in Ohio so we're not not too terribly far but here's here's the general
thought the bridge guy the killer of two young girls out in broad daylight mm-hmm
has to be such an evil individual many suspect that either this is not the first time that he's killed or if it was
it wouldn't be the last and that's why when we see this time and time again of something happening of another case
happening elsewhere somewhat close if it has any ties at all if it has any possible similarities that people are
making the jump and they want to know more about that case the new case because they want to know if in fact the
the monster that committed those crimes could be the same monster as the guy on the bridge that day this story is very
odd and it's actually a pretty simple story when you first hear the headlines tortured woman's body found in a shed or
in a hunting Shack your imagination runs wild and when you really start to see and understand the facts of the case as
we currently understand them weeks later you see that a connection is a little rough but there are some interesting
things that if you're fine with a captain will get into after I go through what is believed took place in this
actual case mm-hmm okay so unfortunately the victim here was eventually identified as Nicole L Bowen she is a
mother of two she's 30 years old from West Lafayette and of course foul play was immediately suspected what ends up
taking place here and I don't know exactly where the fingerprints were found but they find fingerprints either
on the body or items used to discard the body or in that shed or hunting Shack they
find fingerprints that are going to lead them to a suspect okay so it wasn't very tough for them to find
out who they wanted to talk to immediately who they end up talking to the owner of the fingerprints is Garrett
Kurtz he is 21 years old of Lebanon Indiana he is it takes some time but there is an arrest that's made in fact
there are five arrests that are made in this case okay so we have Garrett Kurtz who we're going to spend the most time
talking about but we also have Ashley Garth who is 26 years old she is from Delphi Indiana we have Christopher
Mathias 27 years old of Kenton Jasmine Parker 34 of Kenton and talitha Beckley apologize for that captain but it looks
like Talitha talath a-- tom apologizes a shitty name 36 years old of monticello so why are so many people arrested in
this case Kurtz once arrested he's going to do some talking and I'm sure these others did talking as well now I'm a
little uncertain of the location but very early on in this case the newspapers were reporting that police
believed that Bowen was killed elsewhere that she was probably very likely killed
miles away and that her body was dumped in or around the shed right so right there we can see that the headline of
woman found tortured in a shed is very different from what actually happened she wasn't tortured in that shed she
wasn't held captive in that shed abducted elsewhere and brought there what took place was she was just her
body was just attempted to be concealed there the way this went down is Nicole Bowen has a connection to
Garrett Kurtz it sounds like they may have even had a relationship at one time there was some
kind of beef between Nicole Bowen and this Ashley Garth I don't know where this was to take place but the way that
this went down was there was supposed to be there some type of meeting between Bowen and Garth what we can't confirm is
if Bowen was going along with this or not if she was into this meeting or if she was brought there against her will
right what we do know is she arrives at a trailer Garret Kurtz brought her to this trailer I've heard a couple of
different news reports one stating that the the trailer was owned by Garrett Kurtz the other saying that it was owned
by Ashley Garth I can't say who out of this out of this batch of losers owned the trailer but anyway Nicole Bowen is
brought there she does not want to go into the trailer at some point there is an altercation a physical fight that
starts to take place between her and Ashley Garth again it's my understanding that Nicole Bowen it was a one-time
girlfriend possibly of Kurtz and the Ashley Garth was the current girlfriend of Garrett Kurtz there's some kind of
physical altercation a fight breaks out between the two it also sounds like it was expected or suspected by others
there that this fight would likely take place if the two saw each other face-to-face so these these women are
gonna fight over this piece of [ __ ] I can't say that for certain I've seen pictures of this dude and there's videos
of this dude online and I don't know why ants would fight over this guy he's he's
fugly as well here's here's my guess mm-hmm and I don't know that it's been publicly stated but I'm going to go off
of mug shot photos and what I strongly suspect is happening here I think that all of these individuals that we've
named are involved in drugs very likely in and this dispute could have been over
this this man if you want to call him that or it could have been over something else but we do know there was
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regarding that are you gonna start patting us on the backside again patting you on the back back side whichever I
didn't say back side regarding this fight so where we left off we have Nicole Bowen and Ashley Garth er in the
middle of a fight a physical fight to which according to the prosecutor in this case Garret Kurtz jumps in the
middle of this fight and how he gets involved in this is he puts Nicole Bowen in a headlock wraps his arm around her
neck he tightens his arm until she goes unconscious till he puts her on the floor according to the information I
could find it it appears that he did not want her to wake up but this didn't he didn't just keep choking her he started
going throughout the the trailer and finding implements to help him choke strangle suffocate her to lead to her
her death all right so there was a fight going on he jumps in the middle he puts
her in some kind of chokehold she then passes out and then he's now going around finding objects to help him
choke her with yes okay yes so at one point he uses an extension cord at one point he uses a bag over her head ropes
and so on and so forth were used in this manner that's why when her body is found
they are saying that it appears that she has been tortured meanwhile all these other disgraces that are standing around
in the trailer they do not stop Kurtz from from killing this woman now at the at the trailer itself it's just Kurtz
and these other women that we mentioned and again those names are Jasmine Parker
Talitha Beckley as well as his girlfriend Ashley Garth so what occurs after Bowen is killed is Kurt's
gets his vehicle he backs it up to the trailer he places her body inside his vehicle and now he's going to call
Christopher Mathias his 27 year old buddy of Kent 'land Indiana and say hey I got a body here can you help me and
Christopher Mathias will very quickly agree to help mr. kurtz dispose of this body they drove around until they found
what they thought to be the perfect place to dump miss Bowens body and as we know the body is eventually found all
five of these terrible people are eventually arrested and now they're waiting to go to trial some of them have
had their first day in court it's going to be interesting to see who turns on who and in how more complete this story
can get because the tricky thing here is it sounds like a lot of this information
whether it be verified by the others or not is in fact being provided by Kurt's the one good thing out of this whole
terrible story is that Kurt's as a monster as well as these other four and they are no longer on the street they
are locked up and currently behind bars here's where we end up with a lot of problems we've already talked about
where the headlines lead the public and and people to speculate that this Kurtz individual could be possibly connected
to the Delphi double slaying there is also some consensus that maybe he resembles the bridge guy in some form
there is also people that well this is actually going to stem from the next thing on our timeline which I think we
should get into real quick and we'll site will circle back to Garrett Kurtz yeah because what happens next it really
changed almost everything that we thought we knew about this case yeah on April 22nd the Indiana State Police
release new audio new video and a new sketch of the suspect as they announced a new direction at a press
conference so never before released video taken from Libby's cell phone shows a man walking toward the two girls
that's released authorities also release more phone audio of a man saying guys so
now we have before we head down the hill now we have guys down the hill they also
release a new younger looking sketch of the suspect who they believe has ties to
the Delphi area authorities say he is between 18 and 40 years old this was a to say the least captain so this was a
very powerful press conference yeah on top of that we have this like we said this new drawing which goes wow this
this perpetrator might have been hwayeong gerd than we thought he was the new drawling 2 looks nothing like the
old drawing right so and and so if you thought Daniel nation's look like the first drawing well he doesn't look
anything like the second roll and anybody that was arrested like we said people fishing for answers and going hey
kind of looks like the drawing well now we have a whole new drawing so that just
kind of it changes the whole game yeah so as far as Garrett Kurtz is concerned and like I said he's one of
the one of the big names right now that people were suspicious of there is audio
there's a video of him online where he's saying the word guys he saying hey guys
I got a vent here for a little bit guys and he it doesn't sound unlike what is released from the police you know it's a
very hard G yeah which when you hear guys down the hill or or down the hill guys it's a very like it's just it's
almost like a weird accent and then you hear the the comparison audio and you go
that I see where they were they're saying they're similar the only issue that I have with that is you could not talk
about a smaller sample size by comparison purposes it's one single word where you're taking that from Garrett
Kurtz when he's he appears to be high or drunk or both smoking a cigarette and he
when he says guys it almost looks to me like he's inhaling as he says the word guys so I don't know that that's his
natural speak but I guess we also can't say that the bridge guy was talking normally as well during that whole
situation right so a lot of people find that similar I think that the big thing was that his ex-girlfriend was from
Delphi so that would put a connection between him and in the actual location regardless of where she's from or where
she was living he doesn't live terribly far from Delphi right so I take I put more thought into that then where his
girlfriend's from there's a lot of people from Delphi I think that's why it jumps off the page to people immediately
when they're reading the newspaper article going wait the this guy and these people did this horrible thing
wait there's the word Delphi in there well the faith in is when you first see him he has a shaved head and he kind of
looks somewhat like maybe the first sketch but then you if you do some digging into his background he actually
had longer curly hair which not long curly hair but a little bit not like buzz cut his hair now is buzz cut a
couple years back when when the murders took place at that time if you look into
his facebook pictures and stuff like that he has these curly reddish blond hair which is basically what they're
they're saying with the new drawing yeah it's weird because I could see where two
years ago he may have looked like the old drawing and today he looks like wait I'm said that wrong revise its yes I
could see where two years ago when Kurtz was 19 now keep in mind that would fit within their their age range
of 18 to 40 now mind you that's a very large age range but Kurtz was 19 I could see possibly him looking like the new
sketch and now after two years of hard drugs and hard living well it looks like the old sketch well I'm thinking about
what the FBI tells you all the time when they're looking for somebody look for somebody that had is making changes and
their appearance so when you have evidence on somebody's Facebook page that they had a haircut similar to the
new drawing and now when you see him two years later they have a buzz cut well that's not that big of a deal you got to
two years that they could have changed their haircut but based off of what people have been searching on the
internet it seems like he changed his his haircut and his style roughly around the time of the Delphi murders the other
thing that's there's a few more things about this Kurtz guy that are kind of freaking people out one he has a friend
that people have found pictures of on his Facebook page that resembles the new sketch so people question that also
Garrett Kurtz seems to have some not just a tie to Delphi because his girlfriend is from there there's
speculation that he may have worked on Ron Logan's property or have some kind of involvement there's people that have
done some some good detective work where they've they've took pictures from from
interviews with Ron Logan around the time of the murders that showed his horses in the background and where him
standing next to a horse and petting the horse people have found photos on Garrett Kurtz's Facebook page from years
ago where these horses appear to be very similar if not in fact the same horses now these pictures appear in September
of 2016 I'm not certain if that's a timestamp or if that's when they were posted to his
Facebook but that's an interesting thing there as well before we move on to Garrett Kurtz I also want to throw this
out there and this is yet to be confirmed but I imagine we should know this fairly soon there's a lot of
speculation now Garrett Kurtz's is is not a saint he's a terrible individual it sounds like maybe he is admitted to
killing Nicole Bowen but even all even that one day aside right let's remove that completely from his life he's still
not a saint he's somebody that very obviously has some kind of drug problem he has been arrested before and that's
where the speculation comes in that people are wondering if possibly he was in jail at the time of the murders so I
know that that is being looked into I don't see why that would take very long to find out that information but he's a
relatively new suspect on this list while a lot of people talk about the press conference as well there's this
statement that the sergeant's making and he's talking and kind of randomly he just he pulls a captain I randomly gets
off subject and starts talking about this movie about some cabin well I'm regarding this press conference
in the new sketch I could we could do two more shows on that in it I don't have the information right here in front
of me but are we convinced that he says the cabin and doesn't say the shack yeah
he might have said the shack but I guess there's some movie where but there's an
issue with that because there is there's a movie called the cab and there's a movie called the shack and there are two
very different movies two completely different stories so if you look at something like the cabin it's it's more
of a horror flick where the shack is more of a kind of a grieving film more of a more of a drama so without
having that directly in front of me I don't know how much I want to talk about that because those are two regarding
Department says it's two completely different thoughts that you could put into that possible statement right I
just want to say that that there's a lot of people online saying there there's a
statement that we actually covered this press conference like I think we actually watched it and then recorded
off the record about the press conference and I believe at the time we actually mentioned well
that's strange that was kind of a strange comment and so because it's been strange and it kind
of stuck out to people once you got this guy arrested and they find the victim in
a shack or slash cabin or whatever you want to call it that's where they start putting the connection with with this
new with this new suspect right so real quick here my my general understanding and again we don't I don't have his the
transcript of what was said at that press conference right to know if he said shack or cabin but from my
understanding the the story the cabin is more of a horror flick and it involves murder and torture and things of that
nature right where the the film The Shack is more about grieving and coming to an
acceptance of loss yes so I think you're correct so both of them could play both
of them work into that yes into his press conference in a way meaning you know look because you can see the hurt
on on the eyes and in the eyes and on the faces of the investigators at some of these press conferences now Kurtz is
somebody that is of concern of interest here one thing I question is his ability
to get away with something doesn't I mean if in fact it's a willingness to confess as well willingness to confess
if in fact he did confess somebody did I'm assuming it came from him but also very quickly asking for help in
disposing of the body that there's just a lot of a lot of mistakes very quickly made we don't know what mistakes the
bridge guy made but Kurtz is not the last person that would would become a suspect in the public's eyes because
just last month June 22nd at approximately 4:30 in the morning a 26 year old woman is driving and she's
having some car troubles she pulls over to the side of the road this puts her on
the property of 55 year old Paul etter Paul offers to help this woman she gets a bad feeling and says she doesn't need
any help now despite the issues she is having with the vehicle she drives off anyway Paul etter decides to follow this
woman hmmm that's not creepy I'm not certain how he caught up with her or if in fact her car finally gave out right
but eventually Paul at her abducts the woman and takes her to his family's farm where he holds her there for hours and
sexually assaults a woman after several hours he lets her go she reports the abduction and rape and now local law
enforcement is looking for this Paul etter somehow he manages to evade police for almost five full days this is until
police spot a stolen vehicle a vehicle that was reported stolen but now driving driving this stolen
vehicle is Paul etter this leads to a five hour long standoff with police and the result Paul
etter commits suicide hmm Paul etter is just the latest in a slew of suspects in this case police are
very interested to find out some things about this man first off they want to find out where he was when he was on the
run from police was he staying with somebody did he drive or travel in another vehicle other than the stolen
one that he was later located in right does he have any connection to the still unsolved Delphi murders yeah and
he's he seems obviously older than the new sketch but maybe it makes sense with the with the old sketch I just looked up
the transcript real quick from the press conference that we were discussing and in this version of the transcript I
can't verify that it's 100% accurate but it says he references the Shaq okay yeah
he says we try so hard to understand how a person could do something like this to
two children I recently watched a movie called the Shaq and there's also a book that talks so well about evil about
death and about eternity so it might have nothing sounds like it has nothing to do with with the actual murderer
torture and he think it has more to do with the fact that he's grieving the family's grieving the community's
grieving and hey this might be this sounds like something that possibly helped this law enforcement officer yeah
I read a brief description on the the book at shortly after that press conference and the way that it's
described the details of the book say the the a somebody that is grieving over the loss of somebody goes to this Shack
and at the shack or near the Shack they have the ability to speak with Jesus with God and with the holy spirit and I
think it's its authority it's through that that this individual in the story is able to accept the loss of their
loved one yeah and the these are just the I mean we there there's a list a big list that you put out and and each one
having some connections with the actual case some it seems like law enforcement not 100% clearing but at least trying to
get some light to not be shined shining so brightly on uncertain suspects but I wonder how many others are out there
that have flown under the radar well it seems to me like they're willing to law enforcement willing to say just
enough to try to get the press off their back about a certain individual not so much to say that they've cleared first
individual I think that they are perfectly happy with continuing under the statement that they've always said
everyone is a suspect and I think they're fine with letting that just be for now so in July of this year just
earlier this month July 9th Libby's sister Kelsey took to YouTube this to debunk conspiracy surrounding
the unsolved killings Kelsey first began this post with a timeline of events the day that she
dropped off Libby and a be near the scenic moanin High Bridge I want to say something here I've seen people on
YouTube and on different websites who questioned Kelsey that say that she has changed her story
a bazillion times that the things that she says does not make sense I think these people are fools if they could if
they could point out something that would make sense to me send it our way we got a blog at true crime garage com
put something up there to make me see the light or understand this differently I think Kelsey says it badly geo help
pat you on the bottom well she said it best on on her YouTube where she says the the whole week after the murders was
a complete blur so asking us to remember everything completely correct is so I don't even think it's possible I don't
think anybody can remember something specific after something tragic like that happens so keep in mind this is a
is a young woman who who was even two years younger and lost her sister her sister was violently murdered after she
dropped her off at this park right so to call her anything other and a good big sister and I got no time
for you man yeah but to play devil's advocate oh here we go you have to oh you know it is not solved
we don't know everything we don't know every detail I think there's one thing to keep possibilities open I think it's
it's irresponsible when they take victims family members and start throwing them under the bus with little
to nothing there but I don't think it's irresponsible to keep open mind on certain ideas okay I don't I don't
understand what what your point was okay so the point is that I'll calm down well
your point doesn't my point made a perfect sense did it it did okay so what I'm asking for clarification right so
what I'm saying is yes I understand that you can be angry at somebody for throwing a victim's family member under
the bus I get that but I don't think it's irresponsible to keep an open mind on we don't know the answers we don't
know every detail so to question her to think that there's a possibility that there might be
details that are wrong coming from her or other family members I don't think that's irresponsible but I do think it's
irresponsible when people then you know take something because somebody changed their story here and there and then all
son try to point a guilty finger towards that person well Kelsey went on to stress that her family has been nothing
but cooperative with the police investigation keep in mind I'm really simplifying this and really shortening
this a lot because this was a very long video she's really just addressing the fact that there has been so many people
that have stated that somebody and her family is guilty of this crime and she's just pointing out that
they've been nothing but cooperative in her opinion with the police investigation saying quote absolutely no
one has refused a lie-detector test that is a very big misconception we've been very open and gave the police everything
that we know she spoke highly of her relatives who have been smeared online and noted that
alibis and other proof she said showed they had nothing to do with the killings she also shot down any rumblings that
her family and investigators were not getting along she then addressed a more specific rumor
this stems from when authority said that Libby's phone pinged off two towers mmm
the day she disappeared armchair detectives theorized it must have been because the device was moving around
town but Kelsey said that was not the case Libby's phone did ping on two towers she said but that was because the
town is so small if you move to one side of your house your phone may switch towers sometimes right and I think this
is tough for her family too because you have so many people that have been investing time and energy I mean that
this is man we covered it early on but we've talked about this case several times on off the record and but you know
I agree with you on the idea that some of these individuals they're not even looking into the idea that somebody
might have an alibi or they might have a bunch of evidence the point that they weren't involved at all and these people
online are then not even paying attention to that evidence and just running with their own theory because
they had a gut feeling or they saw something and went oh that guy that guy gives me the heebie-jeebies so therefore
they're guilty well despite all of the suspects that we have mentioned on these last two shows this case is far from
being solved the Indiana State Police are still asking for your help the public's help the FBI did release a list
of behavioral clues that could help lead investigators to the killer or killers the agency is asking the public to be on
the lookout for anyone who has exhibited the following signs around the times of
the murders changes to their daily routines including modified sleep patterns increased use of alcohol or
drugs cleaned or disposed of clothing and or shoes that might have been worn On February 13 2017 missed work or other
engagements anxiety nervousness or irritability excessive attention to the investigation media coverage or lengthy
discussions related to the murders on Monday February 13 2017 the individual or individuals responsible for these
crimes may have been absent from work missed or canceled an appointment or social engagements or been unavailable
or unresponsive during the afternoon period the FBI explained this in their news release they state they may have
been a no-show or offered a plausible excuse for their absence or tardiness such as illness death in the family car
trouble etc if anyone has any information at all or if you have a tip police want those email to them they
have stated publicly several times this is how they would prefer to receive tips
and you can email any info to Abby and Libby tip at CA Co SH RF comm that's Abby and Libby tip at CA cos H RF comm
and of course if you have information but you believe that you are in danger please call 911
[Music] well I thank everybody for listening and joining us in the garage if you have
thoughts on this case please go to true crime garage comm and click on the blog do we have any recommended reading this
week yes captain this week we are recommending Kentucky bloodbath this is by wild blue Press which has
really become one of the big publishers for true crime in the last five to ten years so anything from wild blue press
I'm always excited about this is by Kevin Sullivan who we have recommended his books before this is Kentucky
bloodbath 10 bizarre tales of murder from the Bluegrass State and you can find that title along with other
recommendations at true crime garage com on the recommended page I want to thank
everybody for sharing these cases on social media and helping to spread the word we need more information
and until next week be good be kind and don't live [Music] [Applause]

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses April Tinsley's murder, suspects linked to the Delphi case, and ongoing investigations into both cases.

Key points

The Arrest of John D. Miller. John D. Miller admits to the abduction and murder of April Tinsley after DNA match.
Daniel Nations Denies Involvement. Daniel Nations, a suspect in the Delphi murders, claims innocence in an interview.
Thomas Bruce's Violent Crime. Thomas Bruce, a suspect in a St. Louis assault, is arrested and faces multiple charges.
Eldridge's Arrest and Speculation. Charles Andrew Eldridge's arrest sparks speculation about his resemblance to Delphi sketch.
Body Found Near Delphi. A body wrapped in a blanket is discovered, raising concerns about a connection to Delphi.
Garrett Kurtz Identified. The owner of the fingerprints is Garrett Kurtz, a key figure in the case.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I just want people to know the truth that I am NOT a monster.

Daniel Nations denies involvement in Delphi murders.

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Tension

65/ 100Some tension

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