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let's talk some true crime thank you foreign [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] police called 59-year-old John D Miller
in for questioning they asked if he knew why they wanted to talk with them according to our probable cause
affidavit he replied April Tinsley it's Fort Wayne's most notorious Cold Case April 1st 1988 is the last time anyone
saw the eight-year-old girl alive police canvassed her neighborhood after April's
mother Janet Tinsley reported her missing three days later April 4th her body was found in a ditch near County
Road 68. she was molested suffocated her death ruled a homicide a forensic exam of her underwear revealed DNA from an
unknown male but it wasn't until 30 years later that police were able to find a match DNA from condoms found in
2014 matched the DNA in Tinsley's underwear and in 2018 the suspect's DNA was narrowed down to two surviving
Brothers John D Miller was one of them police collected several items from trash can located near his trailer in
the Thirteen thousand block of Main Street in grebel including three used condoms and three days later July 9 2018
authorities learned the DNA from those condoms was consistent with that of the DNA found in Tinsley's underwear in
1988. according to a probable cause affidavit detectives told Miller they had a DNA match in the rape and murder
of Tinsley that's when Miller admitted to abducting Tinsley from Holland Street in Fort Wayne taking her to his trailer
and having sex with her he reportedly told police he choked her to death so that she would not report him to the
police then he dumped her body the next day [Music] foreign [Music] that was just one year ago when in July
of 2018 and thank God for the arrest made in the 30 year old Cold Case of April Tinsley that clip you heard is
from CBS News now we covered April's case a while ago back in December of 2015 True Crime garage episode number
seven with this arrest Captain came the speculation that John Miller could also be linked to the Delphi murders Miller
was later convicted of the murder of eight-year-old April Tinsley and sentenced to 80 years in prison when
asked if Miller was a possible suspect Indiana State Police Sergeant Kim Riley would not give a detailed statement
saying only quote we have a thousand names out there and we are still looking at all of them and he added he was being
intentionally vague with that statement in the following month this is August 2018 in an interview
with the Gazette a man that we spoke at length about in yesterday's episode Daniel Nations the
man arrested in Colorado and believed to have some connection possible connection to
the Delphi murders as we know he was from Indiana and wanted by the state of Indiana
in this interview he denies any involvement in the Delphi murders stating that he gave his DNA samples to
Indiana authorities and said quote I just want people to know the truth that I am not a monster
Nations was sentenced in relation to the threatening charges that he faced in Colorado and eventually sentenced in
Indiana on unrelated charges for failing to register as a sex offender so his statement Daniel Nations
is that he gave DNA samples to Indiana authorities again does not mean that they have DNA or does do not have DNA
and also I'm not asking anybody out there to believe this sex offender who refuses to check
in and is also guilty of swinging a hatchet at people on the trails out in Colorado
that's just his words all right continuing on the timeline we're going to get another suspect on November 19
2018. this is when a man entered a Catholic supply store in a strip mall in St Louis County Missouri the man was
armed and he ordered women in the store at gunpoint into the back room once there he ordered them to strip and he
sexually assaulted two women before shooting another woman in the head 53 year old Jamie Schmidt later died after
being transported to the hospital the man left the store one of the victims called 9-1-1 this call came in at 3 19
PM responding officers found no evidence at the crime scene to help them identify
this suspect witness descriptions to police detailed the perpetrator as a white male about
five feet seven inches tall with a heavy build and aged between 40 and 50 years of age
the description was updated by police the next day that the perpetrator was five feet seven inches tall to five feet
nine inches tall wearing a paper boy style hat a navy blue Carhartt style jacket and a red white and black plaid
shirt and blue jeans officers interviewed workers at neighboring businesses and a server at
the HotShots sports bar recognized the description of the suspect as matching that of a man who recently left his
business card at the business police sifted through the trash found the card and immediately went to his home and
arrested Thomas Bruce this Manhunt lasted just under two days this put Thomas Bruce in the spotlight of the
press some noted his similar stature a five foot seven to five foot nine inches to the then current suspect description
in the Delphi slangs also he was wearing a flat cap which many suspect the bridge
guy is wearing a flat cap he was wearing a navy blue jacket and blue jeans and his sexual murder attack
which he did in broad daylight not unlike the suspect in the delphite case Indiana
State Police did look into this possible connection on December 4th 53 year old Thomas Bruce was charged with no less
than 17 felony counts related to the St Louis case and could face the death penalty he was later charged in an
unrelated case this resulting from a case from September 2018 that involved kidnapping sexual assault and robbery
now what I find fascinating about this scenario here Captain this Thomas Bruce who's obviously a complete monster
but there are some similarities I'm not going to say that he looks like the bridge guy I'm not going to say that he
looks unlike the bridge guy but what really jumps off of this what are you trying to say immediately is that he he
seems to be wearing a similar outfit to the bridge guy and the outfit is much easier to see in that grainy photo than
the face of the man so if in fact the bridge guy is wearing a cap this would have been a similar style hat he's also
wearing a navy blue jacket when he commits this crime and blue jeans and again this is a crime that he didn't
mind going into this place in the middle of broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon and
committing this horrible attack that ends the end result is a murder yeah his we've got no update as far as Thomas
Bruce goes if if there's been anything more to connect him to the Delphi case other than just public speculation
on January 8 2019 Charles Andrew Eldridge one ugly bastard age 46 was arrested after
allegedly arranging to meet for sex with a police officer who was posing as a teenage girl he faces multiple charges
including two counts of child molestation during the course of news coverage of his arrest local Indiana residents
noticed his mug shot and said it resembles the sketch of Abby and Libby's alleged killer and these calls made
their way very quickly to the police tip line after receiving multiple calls the
Indiana State Police made the following statement quote I can promise you this when an arrest is made of a suspect
identified as the alleged perpetrator of the Delphi murders rest assured we will
let everyone know it is important for the public and the media to know that many similar tips and arrests of other
persons alleged to be connected to the Delphi murders occur with some frequency in and outside of Indiana
each tip whether it receives media attention or not is investigated for any connection to the Delphi case end quote
calling Mr Eldridge an ugly bastard is being very kind to him he's fugly yes yes he's he's fugly not only in looks
but personality and character this is this is a bad guy this is a disgusting person and
we talked about him on off the Record he I I can see some resemblance a little bit again but you're questioning what
what you think that you're seeing in the picture of the bridge guy right it's so
difficult with them the bridge guy is it to me at least in facial appearance not as fugly as Eldridge
he appeared to me the bridge guy appears younger than Eldridge and probably thinner and smaller Albert Eldridge I
don't know if it's just that he's so ugly but he like when you see pictures of him
he he presents like an opposing stature like an opposing figure it's just there's something very evil about
that man you know that face of him you know that face you make when you uh eat a Sour Patch Kid it's like that's the
kind of face you make when you see his picture yeah it's scary it's scary just two days after this the Indiana State
Police say that there is no evidence thus far to suggest that Eldridge has any connection to the Delphi case and a
news release Randolph County Police said quote outside of the person resembling the sketch there is currently zero
evidence that ties him to this case right and he is not a suspect in the case although we understand that people
are trying to help the investigation by doing this with zero evidence other than
a mere appearance it can also hurt or hinder an investigation the department said in a more recent
report Captain Dave Burston says there is no evidence suggesting or disproving whether Eldridge is connected to the
case and this was a similar thing where right when this news broke it was like Facebook went nuts and now it's like
this the case is solved um even though then it's just you know waiting around for the next person that somebody's
going to go well this must be it um so so law enforcement's getting a lot of tips from armchair detectives a lot of
tips from the community but you know what I think is interesting there Captain what you were getting into
and you're you're exactly right is several times throughout this investigation and I think that's where
the community stands and where the state of Indiana stands and I would I would venture to say that the the nation as
well that this is such a big story such a big case something that is on a lot of
people's minds and hurts everyone's Hearts right that they want this case solved and so there is a bit of a freak
out period when when a new person is brought to light as a potential suspect as potential Bridge guy there is that
little freak out period that goes on now what I will say where I will Pat everyone on the back
for in the in the general public is that I think that that freak out period was was tempered a bit
from the first time we saw that happen when Daniel Nations was arrested in Colorado
the hype and the freak out and the everybody going crazy on the message boards and on social media was so crazy
that that actually really messed up the investigation and messed things up for the the families and the the living
victims of this crime and murders because they they were they were stuck right for a while walking around going
[ __ ] people think this is has been solved yeah we gotta get the word out that it
hasn't been solved yeah there were a lot of people in the general public that were walking around thinking after
Daniel Nations was arrested that this case has been solved when in fact no no it has not and so that's where I give
some Kudos because I think we all we learned a lesson we learned a lesson we yes we've we've learned and and now
we've we've able to contain that excitement a little bit that's how bad everybody wants to see an arrest in this
case but we're able to contain that excitement to the point where we're not freaking out and people thinking that
the case is closed again Indiana State Police have said very clearly when there's an arrest made in the Delphi
murders case we will tell everybody we'll let you know yeah so this this brings us to the two-year anniversary of
The Disappearance so February 13 2019 just earlier this year two year anniversary of Libyan Abby's
disappearance authorities vowed that they would bring the person responsible to Justice saying this is not a cold
case and I want to back that up everything that I can see Captain this thing appears to be very far from cold
the prosecutor the Carroll County prosecutor Nicholas mcleland told reporters this case is not closed we are
not done with this investigation there are countless people working on this every day and Captain remember when the
public was reminded several times about what the state police are looking for most
people have seen the posters and the statements by Indiana State Police that say what is a good tip so what are they
looking for and anyone who comes forward with information is asked to include the
following if possible so if you're going to submit a tip they're hoping that they can get from
you your suspect's name the date of birth or approximate age a physical description
possibly their address and or vehicle information a specific reason why you believe this
person should be considered a suspect a possible motive and any possible connection that that person may have to
the Delphi Community but this is not going to be the last person that people get excited about there's going to be
a murder that takes place an arrest that's made pretty quickly and this is another one that people are going to
start looking into and and trying to build the connection yes and I feel like there there
currently are probably two individuals that a lot of people are focusing on right now and we're going to get into to
both of them this brings us to Saturday March 30th 2019 and this is when a body is found
just about six miles Northwest of Kentland in Newton County Indiana which is Northwest of Carroll County
and Delphi the city of Delphi is in Carroll County so not terribly far away and the way that this case works out is
the property owner finds a body wrapped in a gray blanket on a wooden floor of a shipping type
container so some people are familiar with this this was actually used as some type of
hunting Shack or has been referred to at least in the newspapers as a hunting Shack right but sometimes people will
take these storage shipping type containers that you would see on a I don't know on a barge or on a on a train
or something like that right and use them as a as a makeshift building yeah sometimes people turn these into houses
and people that live in the city and have never lived in the country may not understand this but there are a lot of
people especially Hunters the own property that they may not even live on that they own this property it's
out in BFE somewhere and once in a while when they can break away from work they
go out there and they enjoy hunting and fishing and things like that well this property the property owner
goes out to this what's being referred to as a hunting Shack and finds this body wrapped in this gray
blanket and reports the body this is around 2 38 pm on March 30th this whole case has really inspired a
lot of thought and speculation regarding if it in fact could be connected to Delphi
and I think for several reasons one given the proximity to the city of Delphi and two the headlines are
woman found tortured in a hunting Shack or in a shed some of the headlines say shed so I think where we see the outdoor
type murder there's another belief and there's another connection and yeah yeah this
may sound I'm sure it doesn't sound silly to anyone but as we go through these the
more that we bring up it might seem a little strange that there's just one after another after
another you got to keep in mind that I mean this is this proof that you shouldn't move to
Indiana we are doing we are doing Indiana no favors in this episode this episode
these last two episodes have not been sponsored by Indiana we're in Ohio so um we're not not too terribly far but
here's here's the general thought the bridge Guy the killer of two young girls out in broad daylight has to be
such an evil individual many suspect that either this is not the first time that he's killed or if it was
it wouldn't be the last and that's why when we see this time and time again of something happening
of another case happening elsewhere somewhat close if it has any ties at all if it has any possible similarities that
people are making the jump and they want to know more about that case the new case because they want to know if in
fact the the monster that committed those crimes could be the same monster as the guy on the bridge that day
this story is very odd and it's actually a pretty simple story when you first hear the headlines
tortured woman's body found in a shed or in a hunting Shack your imagination runs
wild and when you really start to see and and understand the facts of the case as we currently understand them
Weeks Later you see that a connection is a little rough but there are some interesting
things that if you're fine with it Captain we'll get into after I go through what is believed took place in
this actual case Okay so unfortunately the victim here was eventually identified as Nicole L Bowen she is a
mother of two she's 30 years old from West Lafayette and of course Foul Play was immediately suspected
what ends up taking place here and I don't know exactly where the fingerprints were found but they find
fingerprints either on the body or items used to discard the body or in that shed
or hunting Shack they find fingerprints that are going to lead them to a suspect
okay so it wasn't very tough for them to find out who they wanted to talk to immediately
who they end up talking to the owner of the fingerprints is Garrett Kurtz he is 21 years old of Lebanon Indiana
he is it takes some time but there is an arrest that's made in fact there are five arrests that are made in this case
okay so we have Garrett Kurtz who we're going to spend the most time talking about
but we also have Ashley Garth who is 26 years old she is from Delphi Indiana we have Christopher Mathias 27 years old of
Kentland Jasmine Parker 34 of Kentland and to litha Beckley apologize for that Captain but it looks
like talitha talitha don't apologize it's a shitty name 36 years old of Monticello so
why are so many people arrested in this case Kurtz once arrested he's going to do some
talking and I'm sure these others did talking as well now I'm a little uncertain of the location but very early
on in this case the newspapers were reporting that police believed that Bowen was killed elsewhere that she was
probably very likely killed miles away and that her body was dumped in or around the shed right so
right there we can see that the headline of woman found tortured in a shed is very different from what actually
happened she wasn't tortured in that shed she wasn't held captive in that shed abducted elsewhere and brought
there what took place was she was just her body was just attempted to be concealed
there the way this went down is Nicole Bowen has a connection to Garrett Kurtz it sounds like they may have even had a
relationship at one time there was some kind of beef between Nicole Bowen and this Ashley Garth
I don't know where this was to take place but the way that this went down was there was supposed to be
there some type of meeting between Bowen and Garth what we can't confirm is if Bowen was
going along with this or not if she was into this meeting or if she was brought there against her will right what we do
know is she arrives at a trailer Garrett Kurtz brought her to this trailer I've heard a couple different
um news reports one stating that the the trailer was owned by Garrett Kurtz the other saying
that it was owned by Ashley Garth I can't say who out of this out of this batch of losers own the trailer
but anyway Nicole Bowen is brought there she does not want to go into the trailer
at some point there is an altercation a physical fight that starts to take place
between her and Ashley Garth again it's my understanding that Nicole Bowen it was a one-time girlfriend possibly of
Kurtz and that Ashley Garth was the current girl friend of Garrett Kurtz there's some kind of physical
altercation a fight breaks out between the two it also sounds like it was expected or
suspected by others there that this fight would likely take place if the two saw each other face to face
so these these women are going to fight over this piece of [ __ ] I can't say that for certain I've seen
pictures of this dude and there's videos of this dude online and I don't know why
ants would fight over this guy he's he's fugly as well here's here's my guess and
it I don't know that it's been publicly stated but I'm going to go off of mugshot photos and what I strongly
suspect is happening here I think that all of these individuals that we've named are involved in drugs
very likely in meth and this dispute could have been over this this man if you want to call him that or
it could have been over something else but we do know there was some kind of beef between Bowen and Garth
[Music] all right we're back Cheers Cheers captain regarding this are you gonna start
patting us on the back side again petting you on the back side whichever I didn't say backside
um regarding this fight so we where we left off we have Nicole Bowen and Ashley garther in the middle of a a fight a
physical fight it's a witch according to the prosecutor in this case Garrett Kurtz jumps in the
middle of this fight and how he gets involved in this is he puts Nicole Bowen in a headlock wraps
his arm around her neck he tightens his arm until she goes unconscious till he puts her on the
floor according to the information I could find it it appears that he did not want
her to wake up but this didn't he didn't just keep choking her he started going throughout the the trailer and finding
implements to help him choke strangle suffocate herb to to lead to her her death all
right so there was a fight going on he jumps in the middle he puts her in some kind of Chokehold she then passes out
and then he's now going around finding objects to help him choker with yes okay yeah so at one
point he uses an extension cord at one point he uses a bag over her head um ropes and so on and so forth were
used in this manner that's why when her body is found they're saying that it appears that she has been tortured
meanwhile all these other disgraces that are standing around in the trailer they do not stop Kurtz from
from killing this woman now at the at the trailer itself it's just Kurtz and these other women that we mentioned
and again those names are Jasmine Parker talitha Beckley as well as his girlfriend Ashley Garth so what
occurs after Bowen is killed is Kurtz gets his vehicle he backs it up to the trailer he places her body inside his
vehicle and now he's going to call Christopher Mathias his 27 year old buddy of Kentland Indiana and say hey I
got a body here can you help me and Christopher Mathias will very quickly agree to help Mr Kurtz dispose
of this body they drove around until they found what they thought to be the perfect place to dump uh Miss Bowen's
body and as we know the body is eventually found all five of these terrible people are
eventually arrested and now they're waiting to go to trial some of them have had their first day in court
it's going to be interesting to see who turns on who and and how more complete this story can get because the tricky
thing here is it sounds like a lot of this information whether it be verified by the others or not is in fact being
provided by Kurtz the one good thing out of this whole terrible story is that Kurtz is a monster as well as these
other four and they are no longer on the street they are locked up and currently
Behind Bars here's where we end up with a lot of problems we've already talked about
where the headlines lead the public and and people to speculate that this Kurtz individual could be possibly connected
to the Delphi double slang there is also some consensus that maybe he resembles the bridge guy in some form
there is also people that well this is actually going to stem from the next thing on our timeline which I
think we should get into real quick and we'll we'll Circle back to Garrett Kurtz
yeah because what happens next it really changed almost everything that we thought we
knew about this case yeah on April 22nd the Indiana State Police released new Audio new video and
a new sketch of the suspect as they announced a new Direction at a press conference so never before released
video taken from Libby's cell phone shows a man walking toward the two girls that's released authorities also release
more phone audio of a man saying guys so now we have before we head down the hill
now we have guys down the hill they also release a new younger looking sketch of the suspect who they believe
has ties to the Delphi area authorities say he is between 18 and 40 years old this was a to say the least Captain this
was a very powerful press conference yeah on top of that we have this like we said this new drawing which goes
wow this this perpetrator might have been way younger than we thought he was the new drawing 2 looks nothing like the
old drawing right so and and so if you thought Daniel Nations looked like the first drawing well he
doesn't look anything like the second drawer and anybody that was arrested uh like we said people fishing for answers
and going hey kind of looks like the drawing well now we have a whole new drawing so that just kind of
it changes the whole game yeah so as far as Garrett Kurtz is concerned and like I said he's one of
the one of the big names right now that people are suspicious of there is audio there's a video of him
online where he's saying the word guys he's saying something guys I got a vent here for a little bit guys
and he it doesn't sound unlike what is released from the police yeah it's a very hard G yeah
which when you hear it uh guys down the hill or or down the hill guys it's a very like it's just it's almost like a
weird accent and then you hear the the comparison audio and you go that I ca I see where they where they're
saying they're similar the only issue that I have with that is it you could not talk about a smaller
sample size right comparison purposes it's one single word where you're taking that from Garrett Kurtz when he's he
appears to be high or drunk or both smoking a cigarette and he he when he says guys it almost looks to me like
he's inhaling as he says the word guys so I don't know that that's his natural speak but I guess we also can't
say that the bridge guy was talking normally as well during that whole situation right so a lot of people find
that similar um I think the the big thing was that his ex-girlfriend was from Delphi
so that would put a connection between him and in the actual location regardless of where she's from or where
she was living he doesn't live terribly far from Delphi right so I I take I I put more thought into that than where
his girlfriend's from there's a lot of people from Delphi I think that's why it jumps off the page to people immediately
when they're reading the newspaper article going wait the this guy and these people did this horrible thing
wait there's the word Delphi in there well the funny thing is when you first see him he has the shaved head and he
and he kind of looks somewhat like maybe the first sketch but then you've if you
do some digging in into his background he actually had longer curly hair which not long curly hair but a little bit not
like buzz cut his hair now is buzz cut couple years back when when the murders took place at that time if you look into
his Facebook pictures and stuff like that he has these curly reddish blonde hair
which is basically what they're they're saying with the new drawing yeah it's weird because I could see
where two years ago he may have looked like the old drawing and today he looks like wait I'm said that wrong I could
yes I could see where two years ago when Kurtz was 19 now keep in mind that would
fit within their their age range of 18 to 40. now right mind you that's a very large age range
but Kurtz was 19 I could see possibly him looking like the new sketch and now after two years of hard drugs and and
hard living well it looks like the old sketch well and think about what the FBI tells you
all the time when they're looking for somebody look for somebody that had is making changes in their appearance so
when you have evidence on somebody's Facebook page that they had a haircut similar to the new drawing and now when
you see them two years later they have a buzz cut well that's not that big of a deal you
got two two years that they could have changed their haircut but based off of what people have been searching on the
internet it seems like he changed his uh his haircut and his style roughly around
the time of the Delphi murders the other thing that's there's a few more things about this Kurtz guide that are kind of
freaking people out one um he has a friend that people have found pictures of on his Facebook
page that resembles the new sketch so people question that also Garrett Kurtz seems to have some not just a tie
to Delphi because his girlfriend is from there there's speculation that he may have worked on Ron Logan's property or
have some kind of involvement there's people that have done some some good detective work where they've they've
took pictures from uh from interviews with Ron Logan around the time of the murders
that showed his horses in the background where him standing next to a horse and petting the horse
people have found photos on Garrett Kurtz's Facebook page from years ago where these horses appear to be
very similar if not in fact the same horses now these pictures appear in September
of 2016. I'm not certain if that's a time stamp or if that's when they were posted to
his Facebook but that's an interesting thing there as well before we move on to Garrett Kurtz I
also want to throw this out there and this is yet to be confirmed but I imagine we should know this fairly soon
there's a lot of speculation now Garrett Kurtz is is is not a saint uh he's a terrible individual it sounds like maybe
he is admitted to killing Nicole Bowen but even all even that one day aside right
let's remove that completely from his life he's still not a saint he's somebody that very obviously has some
kind of drug problem he has been arrested before and that's where the speculation comes in that people are
wondering if possibly he was in jail at the time of the murders so I know that that is being looked into I don't see
why that would take very long to find out that information but he's a relatively new suspect on this list well
a lot of people talk about the press conference as well there's this statement that the sergeant is making
and he's talking and kind of randomly he just he pulls the captain right he randomly gets off subject and starts
talking about this movie about some cabin well I regarding this press conference in the
new sketch I I could we could do two more shows on that and it I don't have the information right here in front of
me but are we convinced that he says the cabin and doesn't say the Shack or the yeah he might have said the shack but
because I guess there's some movie where but there's an issue with that because there is there's a movie called The Cab
and there's a movie called The Shack and they're two very different movies two completely different stories so if you
look at something like the cabin it's it's more of a horror flick where the shack is more of
a kind of a grieving film more of a more of a drama so without having that directly in front of
me I don't know how much I want to talk about that because those are two regarding depending on what he says it's
two completely different thoughts that you could put into that possible statement right I just wanted to say
that that there's a lot of people online saying there's this statement that we actually
covered this press conference like I think we actually watched it and then recorded uh off the Record
about the press conference and I I believe at the time we actually mentioned well that's strange that was
kind of a strange comment and so because it's been strange and it kind of stuck out to people once you got this guy
arrested and they find the victim in a in a Shack or slash cabin or whatever you want to call it that's where they
start putting the connection with with this new with this new suspect right so real quick here my my general
understanding and again we don't I don't have his the transcript of of what was said at that press conference right
to know if he said Shaq or cabin but from my understanding the the story the cabin is more of a horror flick and it
involves murder and torture and things of that nature right where the the film The Shack is more about grieving and
coming to an acceptance of loss yes so I think you're correct so both of them could play both of them work into
that yes into his press conference in a way meaning you know look because you can
see the hurt on on the eyes and in the eyes and on the faces of the investigators at some of these press
conferences now Kurtz is somebody that is of concern of Interest here one thing I question is his ability to
get away with something doesn't I mean if in fact it's willingness to confess as well willingness to confess if in
fact he did confess somebody did I'm assuming it came from him but also very quickly asking for help in
disposing of the body there's just a lot of a lot of uh mistakes very quickly made we don't know what mistakes the
bridge guy made but Kurtz is not the last person that would would become a suspect in the Public's
eyes because just last month June 22nd at approximately 4 30 in the morning a 26 year old woman is driving and she's
having some car troubles she pulls over to the side of the road this puts her on
the property of 55 year old Paul Etter Paul offers to help this woman she gets a bad feeling and says she doesn't need
any help now despite the issues she is having with the vehicle she drives off anyway
Paul Etter decides to follow this woman that's not creepy I'm not certain how he
caught up with her or if in fact her car finally gave out right but eventually Paul Etter abducts the woman and takes
her to his family's Farm where he holds her there for hours and sexually assaults the woman after several hours
he lets her go she reports the abduction and rape and now local law enforcement is looking for this Paul Etter
somehow he manages to evade police for almost five full days this is until police spot a stolen vehicle
a vehicle that was reported stalling now driving driving this stolen vehicle is Paul Etter this leads to a five hour
long standoff with police and the result Paul Etter commits suicide Paul Etter is
just the latest in a slew of suspects in this case police are very interested to
find out some things about this man first off they want to find out where he was when he was on the run from police
was he staying with somebody did he drive or travel in another vehicle other than the stolen one that he was later
located in right does he have any connection to the still unsolved Delphi murders yeah and he's he seems obviously
older than the new sketch but maybe it makes sense with with the old sketch I just looked up the transcript real quick
from the press conference that we were discussing and in this version of the transcript I
can't verify that it's 100 accurate but it says he references The Shack okay yeah he says we try so hard to
understand how a person could do something like this to two children I recently watched a movie called The
Shack and there's also a book that talks so well about evil about death and about
eternity so it might have nothing sounds like it has nothing to do with with the
actual murderer torture or anything it has more to do with the fact that he's grieving the families grieving The
community's Grieving and hey this might be uh this sounds like something that possibly helped this law enforcement
officer yeah I read a brief description on the the book at the shortly after that press conference
and the way that it's described the details of the book say that that a somebody that is grieving over the loss
of somebody goes to this Shack and at The Shack or near the shack they have the ability to speak with
um Jesus with God and with the Holy Spirit and I think it's it's third party it's through that that this individual
in the story is able to accept the loss of their loved one yeah and the these are just the
I mean we there there's a list a big list that you've put out and and each one having some connections
with the actual case some it seems like law enforcement not 100 clearing but at least trying to get
some light to not be shined uh shine so brightly on on certain suspects but uh I wonder how many others are out
there that have flown under the radar well it seems to me like they're willing to law enforcement's willing to say just
enough to try to get the press off their back about a certain individual not so much to say that they've cleared this
individual I think that they are perfectly happy with continuing under the statement that
they've always said everyone is a suspect and I think they're fine with letting that just be
for now so in July of this year just earlier this month July 9th Libby's sister Kelsey took to YouTube this to debunk
conspiracy surrounding the unsolved killings Kelsey first began this post with a
timeline of events the day that she dropped off Libby and Abby near the scenic moanin High Bridge
I want to say something here I've seen people on YouTube and on different websites
who question Kelsey that say that she has changed her story a bazillion times that the things that
she says does not make sense I I think these people are fools if they could if they could point out something
that would make sense to me send it our way we got a Blog at truecrime garage.com put something up there to to
make me see the light or understand this differently I think Kelsey says it best
you do he'll patch you on the bottom well she said it best on on her YouTube where she says the the whole week after
the murders was a complete blur so asking us to remember everything completely correct is so
I don't even think it's possible I don't think anybody can remember something specific after something tragic like
that happens so keep in mind this is a is a young woman who who it was even two years younger and
lost her sister her sister was violently murdered after she dropped her off at this park right so to call her anything
other than a good big sister and I I got no time for you man yeah but I to play Devil's Advocate oh here we go you have
to oh you know it is not solved we don't know everything we don't know every detail
I think there's one thing to keep possibilities open I think it's it's irresponsible when they take
um victims family members and start throwing them under the bus with little to nothing there but I don't think it's
irresponsible to keep an open mind on on certain ideas okay I don't I don't understand what
what your point was uh okay so the point is that calm down well your point doesn't my point made a
perfect sense did it it did yeah okay so what I'm asking for clarification right so what I'm saying
is yes I understand that you can be angry at somebody for throwing a victim's family member under the bus I
get that but I don't think it's irresponsible to keep an open mind on we don't know the
answers we don't know every detail uh so to question her to think that there's a possibility that
there might be details that are wrong coming from her or other family members I don't think that's
irresponsible but I do think it's irresponsible when people then you know take something because somebody
changed their story here and there and then all of a sudden try to point a guilty finger towards that person
well Kelsey went on to stress that her family has been nothing but Cooperative with
the police investigation keep in mind I'm really simplifying this and really shortening this a lot because this was a
very long video she's really just addressing the fact that there has been so many people that
have stated that somebody in her family is guilty of this crime and she's just pointing out that they've
been nothing but Cooperative in her opinion with the police investigation saying quote absolutely no one has
refused a lie detector test that is a very big misconception we've been very open and gave the police everything that
we know she spoke highly of her relatives who have been smeared online and noted that Alibis and other proof
she said showed they had nothing to do with the killings she also shot down any Rumblings that her family and
investigators were not getting along she then addressed a more specific rumor this stems from when Authority said that
Libby's phone pinged off two towers the day she disappeared armchair detectives theorized it must have been because the
device was moving around town but Kelsey said that was not the case Libby's phone
did Ping on Two Towers she said but that was because the town is so small if you
move to one side of your house your phone may switch Towers sometimes right and and I think this is tough for her
family too because you have so many people that have been investing time and energy
I mean this is I mean we covered it early on but we've talked about it this case several times on off the Record and
[Music] but you know I I agree with you on the idea that some of these individuals they're not
even looking into the idea that somebody might have an alibi or they might have a bunch of evidence to point that
they weren't involved at all and these people online are then not even paying attention to that evidence
and just running with their own Theory because they had a gut feeling or they saw something and went ah that
guy that guy gives me the heebie-jeebies so therefore they're guilty well despite
all of the suspects that we have mentioned on these last two shows this case is far from being solved the
Indiana State Police are still asking for your help the Public's help the FBI did release a list of Behavioral
clues that could help lead investigators to the killer or killers the agency is asking the public to be on
the lookout for anyone who has exhibited the following signs around the times of
the murders changes to their daily routines including modified sleep patterns increased use of alcohol or drugs
cleaned or disposed of clothing and or shoes that might have been worn on February 13 2017.
missed work or other engagements anxiety nervousness or irritability excessive attention to the investigation
media coverage or lengthy discussions related to the murders on Monday February 13
2017 the individual or individuals responsible for these crimes may have been absent from work missed or canceled
an appointment or social engagements or been unavailable or unresponsive during the afternoon period the FBI explained
this in their news release they State they may have been a no-show or offered a plausible excuse for their absence or
tardiness such as illness death in the family car trouble Etc if anyone has any information at all or if you
have a tip police want those emailed to them they have stated publicly several times this is how they would prefer to
receive tips and you can email any info to Abby and Libby tip at c-a-c-o-s-h-rf.com that's Abby and Libby
tip at c-a-c-o-s-h-r-f.com and of course if you have information but you believe that
you are in danger please call 9-1-1 [Music] foreign [Music] thank everybody for listening and
joining us in the garage if you have thoughts on this case please go to truecrimegarage.com and click on the
blog do we have any recommended reading this week uh yes Captain this week we are recommending Kentucky bloodbath this
is by wild blue press which has really become one of the big Publishers for True Crime in the last five to ten years
so anything from Wild Blue press I'm always excited about this is by Kevin Sullivan who we have recommended his
books before this is Kentucky bloodbath 10 bizarre Tales of murder from the Bluegrass State and you can find that
title along with other recommendations at True Crime garage.com on the recommended page I want to thank
everybody for sharing these cases on social media and helping to spread the word we need more information and until
next week be good be kind and don't litter foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses April Tinsley's murder, suspects linked to the Delphi case, and ongoing investigations into both cases.

Key points

The Arrest of John D. Miller. In 2018, John D. Miller was arrested for the 1988 murder of April Tinsley, a notorious cold case. His DNA matched evidence found at the crime scene, leading to his conviction and an 80-year sentence.
Daniel Nations Denies Involvement. Daniel Nations, a suspect in the Delphi murders, claims innocence after providing DNA samples to authorities. His past raises questions about his character and credibility.
Thomas Bruce's Violent Crime Spree. In November 2018, Thomas Bruce committed a violent crime in St. Louis, leading to his arrest and raising speculation about connections to the Delphi case.
The Discovery of a Body. In March 2019, a body was found wrapped in a blanket in a shipping container, sparking speculation about connections to the Delphi murders.
The Altercation. Nicole Bowen and Ashley Garth have a physical fight, escalating tensions among the suspects.
Kurtz's Connection to Delphi. Speculation arises about Garrett Kurtz's ties to the Delphi area and potential involvement in the murders.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I just want people to know the truth that I am not a monster.

Daniel Nations denying involvement in murders

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Tension

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