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riddle he's a waterw driller found the dead body of a young woman while walking around at a job site just off of
Interstate 25 near Georgetown Kentucky he immediately reported his findings to the local authorities what they found is
startling someone had killed the young woman and wrapped her in some kind of canvas bag or tarp and tying up the
bundle with rope inside the young woman was nude cause of death most likely ex fixation with a murdered victim and a
homicide investigation underway the most troubling part for the investigators they don't know who the woman is they
have received many tips and leads in dozens of missing women reports yet the victim remains nameless MH newspapers
dubbed her tent girl because of the material she was wrapped up in several had pointed out that it looked
like the type of material one would use for a tent or a bag that would carry a tent well Wilbur riddle retired about 20
years after finding the body and still 20 years later they had not identified the woman known as tent girl Wilbur like
the local sheriff and detectives that had worked so hard on the case still was not satisfied that she had never been
identified refusing to let the case go cold in his life Wilbur told his children about him finding the girl and
showed them the newspaper and magazine articles when they were old enough to hear of such a tale one day he told his
son-in-law Todd Matthews Todd was fascinated by the case Todd started spending much of his time researching
the tent girl case and Captain you know this feeling you know how how this works
it turned into an obset ession for him yeah you go down a rabbit hole and you can't get out my friend digging deeper
and deeper he located and studied the FBI's lab report on the white towel found wrapped up with the body in the
report it stated that the tow could have been used as a baby's diaper mhm this prompted Todd to believe that the tent
girl was older than the investigators had thought and she could have been a mother he wrote to the authorities
explaining his reasoning about the tent girl's age he also wrote to the County coroner seeking to have the tent girl's
remains exhumed so that her pelvic area could be re-examined to see whether she had been a mother well the tough thing
here is he's just a armchair detective yeah so he's not going to get anywhere I mean you can make all the requests you
want they don't have to do anything yeah I mean these things cost money they take
up time um this is a very old investigation by this Point um it's at least 20 years old eventually he would
make uh Todd Matthews would make the 200 M trip from his home to see the tent girl's grave site at around the same
time uh he visited the Undertaker of the cemetery who had handled her burial and
the local newspaper as well where he had learned that there had been no new developments in this case in the entire
you know 20 years ever since it went cold in the '90s Todd got a little help with his research with the you know now
what we take for granted the internet right uh he began searching missing persons websites for Clues to tent girls
identity well yeah I mean there was no schools for computer back then well can you imagine how much time
this would take um you have all these especially back then in the in the '90s you got all these kind of random missing
persons websites that are popping up right and you also have to in my opinion uh maybe not so much at the time or not
so much for Todd but you also have to question some of the things that you're seeing on these sites um question how
well they were cataloged appropriately with the correct information I still think you have to do that yeah and I
think uh maybe it's a little easy for his situation because he's looking for some maybe some very specific things
amongst a crowd of many well Todd eventually you know after searching all these sites you know he doesn't really
get anywhere with this so he decides that he wanted to create a website devoted to the tent girl MH where people
could learn about the case or for the many that still wanted to know who she was um and you know a lot of times
people hear these cases and and this is the case even to this this day a lot of people remember a case
from when they were a kid or from an area where they grew up maybe they move away they never know if the case was
ever solved or what took place since the time that they were out living life and
so he thought you know what a great place for people to come in and check in on this case to see if it was ever
solved uh or just check in to kind of relive what they already knew yeah or somebody could stumble upon the case and
go wait a second I know that person mhm or or see if any positive movement was made on this now very cold case well
Todd got great he got really good traffic uh to this site and he got a lot of emails but none of these turned out
to be the lead that he was looking for then late one night this is January of 1998 Todd was scouring the web for Clues
like he had done so many nights before on this night he was on another missing person's website he had poured over and
tore through hundreds of descriptions of missing people that evening when one caught his attention and it was simply
titled Lexington Kentucky 1967 missing okay so not too far yeah so 1998 remember the tent girl was found in
1968 so now 30 years later captain and we still don't know who tent girl is but on on this website someone named
Rosemary Westbrook had posted details of what they say is the following my sister
Barbara has been missing from our family since the latter part of 1967 she has brown hair brown eyes and
is around 5' 2 in tall and was last seen in Lexington Kentucky or the Lexington Kentucky area okay if you have any
information please contact me at the address posted so this post is for Barbara an Hackman
Taylor or DH Taylor I should say right um she was born December 1943 last seen Sometime Late
1967 well Todd Matthews he contacted this Rosemary Westbrook who posted the missing person's
description she she a post a picture I don't think there was a picture on this website but I mean look
I mean for listeners that don't know back in the day to put like a picture on the interwebs I mean that was kind of a
tricky thing you could crash the whole internet [Laughter] right um well and I can only tell you that
because I studied computer right right for 14 years you know he had he the colonel has jokes people he has dad
jokes well so Todd Matthews contacted this Rosemary Westbrook she told him that uh that Barbara an Hackman Taylor
was her sister and she was about 20 she was 24 years old and the mother of a baby girl when she had vanished in
December of 1967 well and his hunch was that this person was older than you know
the tent girl was older than the police thought she was yeah I mean this that's not going to deter Todd Matthews where
we saw back in ' 68 and' 69 the detectives were turning leads away because of obvious factors it w wasn't
the right height wasn't the right weight maybe not the right age right Todd doesn't care about age because as you
pointed out he believes the victim to have been older than the the police suspected okay so this is a solid lead
for Todd but again this this is a lead that police could have came across you know in' 68 or 69 uh but so Todd has
this lead and he's going to hold on to it we have the sister saying that um her sister Barbara had been working at some
type of Le inton Kentucky restaurant okay uh she was married to a guy named George Earl Taylor at that time now
George was a carnival worker uh so he's a Carney you know as Mike Myers would say small hands smells like
cabage but but here's the strange thing if that wasn't strange enough you what is in your beer you don't remember that
part from uh what was that Austin Powers must be because you rated a 4 five it's
Austin Powers he's afraid of Carnival of Carneys okay they have small hands and they smell like cabbage I love Carneys
so all the cares out there listening Captain's on your side me not a fan but here's here's the strange thing
so I guess at the time you know back in in ' 67 and ' 68 uh none of her family knew that that
Barbara was in Kentucky at that time okay where's she originally from uh she was from Florida
and you say well how does this happen apparently Barbara who actually went by the nickname Bobby to her family she was
seen by her family down in Florida in December of 67 when she visited her family I'm not exactly sure of who in
her family she visited with and and we'll get to that in a moment but according to her little sister Rosemary
who spoke with Todd when she was last seen it was with George Earl Taylor her husband right and with her 8-month-old
daughter and of course no one reported her as missing at that time either at some
point another sister of Barbara's had later reported her missing in the State of Florida because this is where this
was the last state that she was known to have lived in the family was told that Barbara and George were going to North
Carolina to live yeah not too far from Florida and going there to for a job I'm assuming going there yep to for a job
and to create a whole life there you know lived their days there rais their child there neither George nor Barbara
ever mentioned anything about Kentucky to any of her family members um and the reason why I wanted
to say I we would get into that in a moment regarding of I don't know who she was there to visit as far as her family
goes she she came from a rather large family Barbara's mom and father had six kids no I'm sorry they had seven
children wow so they had seven children but but at some point there was a flood and there was a tragic um accident or or
or you know some tragedy that took place because of this flood her husband Barbara's father and Barbara's brother
had passed away in this flood well unfortunately Barbara's mom with the remaining six kids she couldn't
afford them she couldn't she couldn't take care of them after losing her husband right So eventually she had to
give up her children you know the family I don't know if they were if they were placed
separately but it sounds to me like the family did their best to try to stay close obviously we can understand the
the obvious obstacle that that is going on here so I don't know how close the family remained at the point where she
was last seen in 1967 well it's pretty interesting cuz you wonder why the change of plans or was the plan to go to
North Carolina just a a front to begin with because one the only way you're going to be able to communicate really
is a very expensive phone call M uh expensive trip to go see them okay well we're going to just tell the family that
we're move into North Carolina but that doesn't mean we have to move there well the tricky thing though too is I mean
think about George's you know Barbara's husband's job so you know and I'm it's a
little unclear if you know when we say he worked for carnivals well you know usually these
things travel around and so he would be essentially you would think traveling around with these with this Carnival
that he worked for now was this a a you know the only job in his career that he ever had probably not um maybe he was
looking to do something where he could just live in a city and work in that City and not have to travel around yeah
we don't we don't know the reason for there to be this thought that we would go to North Carolina and then she seems
to end up barbar's sister seems to end up with some kind of evidence that at some point she was in Kentucky right we
have let's go back to Barbara's husband George the he told Barbara's family that
he didn't know where Barbara could be he simply told them that where is he telling them this from is he in Kentucky
at this point I don't know when this conversation took place in full disclosure here all we know is that
Barbara says that I'm sorry Rosemary says that she last Saw Barbara in December of 1967 that that's when her
family last saw her in the State of Florida in Florida they're planning they tell them they're going to North
Carolina somehow years later she ends up with information that her sister was in
inton Kentucky at some point right so at some point she has becomes an arm share
detective she's looking for her uh sister and she gets evidence that hey she ended up we don't know if she ended
up with her husband in Kentucky but we know that she ended up in Kentucky right and we have the husband that speaks with
Barbara's family at some point again we don't know when this conversation took place right I get the impression that
though that this conversation took place because of Barbara's family that somehow
they reached out to this um reached out to George so he tells them that he didn't know where Barbara was and that
she had run off with another man okay so now we talked yesterday about that strange you know these strange little
stories that you come across when you start looking into these old crimes in these old cases we talked about the the
poem in the uhu in the yearbook in the yearbook yes that's a bit of a strange story here's one for you for today
regarding this incident remember we said that Barbara's sister Rosemary had been
looking for her for some time right she actually reported Barbara as missing to the Lexington Police Department this
took place on October 31st of 1995 h this is like 25 almost 30 years later she's calling this in pay
attention to that date that I gave you too because the later repeat it for us please it was October 31st
1995 okay the the the Lexington Police actually have no record of this phone call with rosemary reporting her sister
is missing they have no missing person's report none that was taken on that day that she said that she called in none
that was ever taken for this Barbara Hackman Taylor ever okay um well how does that make any sense because
when when this person Rosemary Westbrook called in from another state all these years later to report her sister is
being missing from 20 20 some years ago on Halloween the Lexington Police thought
that it was a prank so they never took the report when she called in that day why would they that's a dumb prank
well it makes you Goa it it makes you angry you know it makes you question them and and wonder why um and I'm not
trying to have their back here I'm just wondering how many weird phone calls they get on Halloween well I'm sure they
get a bunch and I'm sure they're all hopped up on candy corn but come on take down the report I mean it's not like you
know they came up and said hey we have a missing person from Lexington Kentucky what's their name seore butts got you no
we're talking about just like a normal name well maybe who ever answered that phone that day in '95 should be
relocated from the police department to work for the carnival maybe step right up yes so now Rosemary told Todd
Matthews remember Todd he's the armchair detective she told Todd that she was only 10 years old when her sister
Barbara had disappeared and she agreed with Todd that there were enough similarities between Barbara's case and
the tent girl case to Warrant further investigation Todd tried to get the proper authorities involved but he but
you know they have other cases so okay so let's go back because I think you glazed over something so Barbara was
missing basically since she was 10 no Rosemary is Barbara's little sister okay so when Rosemary was 10
Rosemary was a lot younger she was 14 years younger than her Barbara was 24 and rosemary was only 10 last time she
saw her sister in 1967 that makes more sense sorry yeah he you know he's trying to get the the KY Authority authorities
involved in this case again of course they have newer cases they have fresher leads on these new cases uh initially
they weren't going to be jumping through hoops to help out Todd so Todd Matthews
he did the detective some detective work himself as much as he could and after he
put together a proper presentation which after hearing would leave anyone with just a you know one thought it's it's
time to exume the body of the tent girl and conduct DNA test right and they're going to test the DNA of uh tent girl
with Barbara's sister correct it was it took a little over a month but in uh March of 1998 tent girl was exhumed and
her remains were sent to a laboratory in Frankfurt Kentucky the first thing they
were able to conclude was that the tent girl was between the ages of 20 and 30 years old okay so you know you keep
pointing out new technology and you're exactly right Captain with our technology now we're saying well we we
had the the age wrong it wasn't she wasn't 16 to 19 we believe her now to be 20 to 30 years old so older than
originally thought and good for Todd cuz he was right with his what he suspected
and still possible that Rosemary is right that this could be her 24-year-old sister after finding that out it was
time to see if Rosemary was related to the tent girl so they collected DNA for comparison it was in April of
1998 they got the results back the test found that Rosemary's DNA genetically matched that of the tent girl yeah who
therefore had to be Barbara and Hackman Taylor wow that's awesome yeah and once again and it's so crazy too that the the
the guy that found her his son-in-law goes on to identify her yeah I don't want to sound too hippie you know but
it's almost like maybe her spirit was there helping guide them along or something well yeah and there's there's
a lot of neat things here going on because you have Wilbur who refused to forget about this case you know he finds
this girl he retires 20 years later he refuses to forget about oh I found this girl and they never they never named her
right he let that bother him him he let it bother him for 20 years to the point where once his kids were old enough he
told them this is what happened this was this was a big part of my life this is a
this is the weight that I've been walking around with on my shoulders for 20 years well and when the kids didn't
listen and they didn't do anything about it he said he he started talking to his
son-in-law the person that had to listen you know he had to listen like oh yeah this is my father-in-law I have to no
but it's pretty remarkable now we have a name uh now we can start search for motive and suspects let's get right back
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have the identity of the tent girl okay now the authorities well we got some tough questions that need to be answered
well we only really have one lead really yes uh because this would be that of her
husband you know maybe hopefully Char hopefully they could ask him some questions straighten out this whole
matter if need be maybe bring him up on some kind of charges mhm but that would not be possible because George Earl
Taylor died of cancer in October of 1987 so he passed away you know 12 years before they even figured out who the
tent girl was right and so they can't ask him questions so all we can go off of is that he claims that she left him
for another man yeah and it seems to be the belief of Barbara's family and some of the the
authorities involved that Barbara's husband George Earl Taylor was most likely the person who had killed 22
24-year-old Barbara Hackman Taylor back in 68 um if this is true he then wrapped up
her body in one of his canvas tarps or bags used for carrying his Carnival tents from town to town and dumped her
in an outof the way spot off of the interstate hoping that she would decompose as much as possible before
anyone found her um I guess he did do a little bit of moving around from time to
time so I guess make it more difficult yeah I guess the thought is if they couldn't ID her that this would never
catch up with him um and well and then that then her daughter might not even know that her her mother is tent girl
yeah you know yeah and and the other thought too is like you said you know he simply tells her family Barbara's family
that she ran off with some other guy and he's got to believe that they would accept this Theory because heck she had
run off with him when they claimed to have been going to North Carolina right yeah and a couple weird things here I
mean if there was no sexual assault and that's not really really reported that there was that would make sense you know
her husband killing her yeah I mean here's the thing I think it's safe to say that someone had killed her and I
start off by saying that because there were you know there were no signs to the cause of death so that makes you wonder
immediately but this according to the autopsy report no signs of cause of death but because she was dis
discarded uh it's obvious to me that someone had killed her and tried to cover this up it it could have been an
accident uh it certainly could have been an accident death um where whoever killed her didn't mean to uh that some
kind of fight broke out between the two of them we know that there's that discoloration that was on the skull um
right it's very possible because of the sign of the times and also they're you know they're traveling around in a
carnival show I mean how many drugs are going through those people's systems that has to be a lot right could be so
there's a good possibility like I said that may maybe it was a OD I mean because we've seen that like in the
vanishing girls the girls in chiley there was a couple times where bodies were discarded but it was more likely
that because because of the science there was no sign of uh strangulation or blunt force trauma or anything like that
so you know the belief is that maybe that they were ODed and that they were dumped it could be possible here as well
well let's keep in mind two things that we know happened all right when it comes to the husband when
it comes to George Earl Taylor first off he never reported his wife missing to anyone anywhere at any time that we know
of you know he he's never called the police and said my wife is missing now you it's easy to say well why would he
if she did run off with some other man right you know if I had a girlfriend she ran off with another man I wouldn't
wouldn't call call that she's hey she's missing well not if you're not missing and if you find her charge her with
breaking my heart right so anyway I get that all right she's not reported missing because she ran off with some
other man but here's the thing at no point over the course of 20 some years before the guy died he never bothers to
tell her family at any time oh we did live in Kentucky for a little bit before she ran off with this guy you know so so
yeah but who right but at that point if you just don't care like this lady left me you know I'm raising our kid by
ourselves by myself um it'd be interesting to locate the daughter and to find out what she knew no but what I
mean is we know that a conversation happened between somebody in Barbara's family and George Earl
Taylor because he tells that family member she ran off with another guy nowhere in that conversation does he
mention the the name of Kentucky to anybody and I think that enough I mean what if the story of them going to North
Carolina was actually true and then when they were doing their armchair detective
they went okay well we know that Barbara went to Kentucky at some point like I said before we don't know if she went to
Kentucky with him or without him right I no I can agree with that because I don't have 100% proof in front
of me that that anyone one can prove that the two of them went there together I believe that there are people that
have they have some inkling that that's what happened that there there may be something that ties the two of them
still together and being in the state of Kentucky early in 1968 which that that makes the that
makes the um the likelihood that somebody else was the killer very small yeah but the eyewitness and we kind of
talked about this before but the the eyewitness that claims that he saw Barbara with some guy and he was driving
them and they argued and he dropped them off if he correctly identified the person as Barbara then who's this other
guy M and maybe that you know leans to George's side of the story as well right um so I mean basically at this point in
this much time um you're not going to get any answers I mean barring barring some deathbed confession by somebody
that um that comes forward you're you're not going to get a solid answer as to who killed Barbara Hackman Taylor you
you just won't my suspicion as far as those as the motorist and those eyewitnesses go my suspicion is that
they were that they saw somebody that night did that whatever they said happen absolutely happened the problem I have
with it is at the time that they're calling in that tip they're going under the impression that the tent girl is 16
to 19 years of age right where we later learn that she's 24 just like so many people had called
in before these two tipsters and said you know what that's my daughter that's missing that's my niece that's my
girlfriend whomever right I mean there were dozens and dozens of these people calling in saying that that's my loved
one and none of those turned out to be correct so my thought is that those two tipsters were just wrong just like all
those other people that had called in before them and I think that had they known well they're not wrong they're
just wrong on the person that they saw right right you're thank you for clearing that up they're they're right
in what happened happened and what they're reporting is true they've just misidentified this person as being the
tent girl a lot more hitchhikers back then and here's my thing too I think that that had they known in in
1968 that this woman was 23 or 24 25 if they had the age more correct on this then it may have been it probably would
have been solved a lot earlier I mean every record of her that was on paper and on on you know databases and on
websites and computers for all these years had her listed as 16 to 19 yeah I wonder where the investigation would
have went if they would have been able to identify her that quickly too because then like we said we have a link back to
George her her husband mhm and that also makes you wonder about some other things
too if they were off on the age which we've seen this in other cases before you know we talked about this a
lot when we were going through the Texas Killing Field mhm because there were so
many girls and women being found that had decomposed that had laid there in the field for a while some that are
still unidentified to this day age can be a very tough thing to determine however I think that that also leads you
to believe that there were probably other misconceptions about what they had found about the remains that they had
found there's a possib ility that the cause of death that they have listed is wrong as well right you know and I think
I think that pointing out that her age is wrong probably points out that there are a few a few other things wrong with
that whole report I'm glad that they were able to identify her but it just raises more
questions well I I do want to point out that you know like we said Barbara's family and the local authorities went on
record uh publicly stating that they believe her husband to have been the one that killed her and dumped her body now
that doesn't prove anything but here's what that leads me to believe it leads me to believe that Som how and somewhere
you know they didn't just make the identification on tent girl and then go oh her husband's dead oh well that's it
we can't do anything with this they would have still spoke to people they would have now they would have looked
and said does this give us any leads is there anybody that we can go out to and talk to now that we're armed with this
information so they would have done that and then they may have been able to determine if they could determine that
the two of them were both present in the state of Kentucky in early 1968 right I
think that's where you just go okay in in in the court of law could you get a conviction here no but in the garage it
looks like well from Nick it looks like yeah but he hands out convictions all the time that's right um it looks to me
like the the probability of George Earl Taylor having killed his wife is so much
higher than the the possibility of it being a stranger and don't Google him because when you do you're going to get
a different George Earl Taylor and he actually murdered two of his wives well I think what what you end up finding is
just Earl Taylor I don't think you get a George Earl Taylor which we were not able to
confirm that it's it's the same person it actually it's not the same it can't be the same person we know that the guy
I think was sentenced in like 19 but this guy was a wife killer he killed like two wives so right when you look it
up you go oh well of course it was this guy but he just killed his first wife that that nobody even knew about it but
yeah that's not the case so what happens with the other people in this case well
let's Okay so we have um we have Todd Matthews good for him cheers to you Todd yes cheers yes because here's the thing
after all of Todd Matthews hard work and determination he believes too that George Earl Taylor was the killer he
believes that George Earl Taylor's tale that Barbara had left him for another man was just simply a way to cover up
and to hide his crime he does state that Barbara's death could indeed have been an accident and that he you know the
husband dumped the body but I tell you what Captain you want to talk about web sleuthing this here Todd Todd Matthews
is the man I mean while we don't have a conviction he still solved a 30-year mystery right so Wilbur's son-in-law uh
Wilbur Riddle's son-in-law you know he put a name to the woman that he had found 30 years before now Todd Matthew
Matthews he says I kind of like this he says Riddle's riddle had been solved um and Wilbur riddle paid tribute
to his son-in-law saying that he Todd Matthews has put in more than a thousand hours on this case there is no one in
law enforcement there's no law enforcement office that had worked harder on any case than he did on this
one very good for him so giving him very high praise the story of the tent Girl inspired the creation of the Kentucky
State medical examiner office back in 1968 and in more recent years Todd Matthews uh he got involved with a
project called Eden which I guess is just Ed an which stands for everyone deser deserves a name Todd has also done
quite a bit of work for the do Network which we have discussed several times uh but for those of you who have not heard
of the do Network it is an International Volunteer group attempting to organize many missing persons and identifies cold
cases but we still have a few more questions right Captain because what became of this 8mon old daughter that
was last seen now I couldn't find any news stories I was looking for News St stories that would be like you
know woman woman in this area finally finds out who her mother really was right right uh I couldn't find any news
stories like that if anybody is local to this case and knows of those and wants to send them our way please do so at
true Crim garage.com but what I did find was I went and I looked at the current headstone for the tent girl which we now
know as Barbara Hackman Taylor mhm and on that headstone it says loving mother grandmother and sister so I'm guessing
that the that the 8-year-old daughter grew up to have a normal life as normal as you can without having your mother
around and you're right she ended up knowing who her mother was yeah and went on to have kids of her own so there's a
bit of a silver lining and and happy ending to that you also have to wonder well whatever happened with the Candice
Clothier case this was the case that we talked about was a possible connection that maybe these two murders were linked
the girl from Pennsylvania well if you believe that George Earl Taylor killed his wife then you got to kind of jump to
the conclusion that they weren't killed by the same person right right so you have to wonder so now this case too
basically took a lot of years to crack in fact it took 42 years into until there was a development in this case so
yeah 42 years later authorities say that they have cracked and closed the cold case they say the they say that Candace
Clothier fell victim to drugged out acquaintances who forcibly injected her with some sort of controlled substance
when the injection killed her the attacker stuffed clothier's body into a laundry bag tying it around her neck and
using her yellow turtleneck sweat to cover her head and then they tied her up and put her into what they're now
calling a laundry bag rather than just a canvas bag they then left her body in a
secluded section of the Twisted Creek she lay partially submerged undetected for nearly 5 weeks until fishermen found
her this all came about from a tip this was in 2005 a woman called police she said she believed she had owned the bag
that Candice was was found in this was a laundry bag authorities said that they believe three men were involved in cloth
ear's death and are now all dead themselves so for this police to the so because of this the police refused to
identify the men uh but also saying if any of those men had been alive when police received this information even if
they were clinging to life support in a nursing home we would be working to gather evidence with which to achieve a
murder conviction and like I said before that was my one of my suspicions right when we started investigating the case
with tent girl was overdose yeah so so I I guess the way that this came about uh
to to kind of put an end to the Candace Clothier case was that they featured her
Cold Case on the NBC 10 channel locally and after the news C A viewer some a woman that had seen the broadcast
called police and reported that she believed that the sack that the fisherman found her in was her laundry
bag missing since she had gave it to her husband shortly after Clothier had disappeared and now this is what they
believe happened that Clothier left her home intending to visit her boyfriend instead
uncharacteristically she accepted a ride with someone that she somewhat knew mhm
who was in a car with at least one other man at the time instead of taking her to
her boyfriend's the men took cloth to a wooded area off of decanter Street in Northeast Philadelphia Philadelphia
sorry the men had a history of drug use and one of them was known to inject drugs in this is a strange thing
I I sometimes when they just put a sentence in a story you wish they would back it up with some kind of story or
evidence because this is a strange sentence to read mhm one of the men was known to inject drugs into animals and
people without their consent a retired detective said they believe detectives believe
that Clothier died after she was involuntarily injected or given an unknown controlled substance the men
then called a third man to help them dump the corpse off of Chain Bridge which is on Route 232 and like we said
the authorities would not name the three individuals that they believ to have been responsible for Candace's death and
dumping her there now they did the same thing they did further investigation if there were people that were still around
that they could talk to with that new information they did and they had bits and pieces of it enough to believe that
they've they've been able to put together the three who committed this crime the interesting thing though here
Captain is while we don't have have a con conviction and while they won't name these guys because they died they did go
on to say that the trio that they blamed for clothier's death they were among those that were interviewed decades ago
when the case was still very active yeah that's very interesting I'm glad for both of those cases that there is some
closure for the family and for the victims as well well and it's a little bit of a light at the end of the tunnel
kind of situation in both those cases right and here's here's a little inspiration to this case should be
inspiration to anybody that's out there looking for a lost one you know we have we have Rosemary Westbrook who was able
to finally locate her sister even it being a sad truth a sad ending but it's probably what she or somewhat she had
expected all this time but she's able to get answers 30 years later and then you
also have the armchair detective who get it's obsessed completely obsessed with a
case and he's one of the lucky ones that gets some resolve and some answer to his
his mystery that he was working on right so the morrow of the story is if you're
sitting there at work and you're diving down rabbit holes and you think to yourself U maybe I can solve it and then
one day you think to yourself why am I doing this keep going maybe you're the one that's going to crack a case it's
the old don't give up don't ever give up right Captain yeah or take a lot of naps
do we have a recommended reading for this week this week we are recommending Garden State Gangland the rise of the
mob in New Jersey by Scott dii the mafia in the United States might be a shadow of its former self but in the New York
and New Jersey metro area there are still Wise Guys in wannabes working scams extorting businesses running
gambling selling drugs and branching out into white collar crimes and they are continuing a tradition that's over a
hundred years old some of the most most powerful Mobsters on the national level were from New Jersey and they've spread
their tentacles down to Florida across the Atlantic and out to California and many of the stories that have never been
told are in this book The Garden State Gangland the rise of the mob in New Jersey and you can find that title with
the rest of our recommended titles at true Crim garage.com click on the recommended page yeah we're not doing
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In “A Body in Kentucky” (episodes 156–157), True Crime Garage investigates a mysterious case in which a body was found in Kentucky. The hosts walk through the discovery, the forensic and investigative efforts to identify the victim, and the trail of leads and dead ends that complicate the case. Throughout the two-part episode, they examine possible suspects, motives, and law enforcement challenges, weighing evidence and theories. Despite in-depth coverage, the case remains unresolved, with no definitive conclusion reached by the hosts.

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Brief Summary

The episode details the identification of "tent girl" as Barbara Hackman Taylor, solved by Todd Matthews after decades of mystery.

Key points

The Tent Girl Case. A young woman's body is found, but her identity remains a mystery for decades.
Todd Matthews' Obsession. Todd becomes obsessed with identifying the Tent Girl after hearing about the case.
A Missing Person's Report. Years later, a sister reports her sibling missing, but the police dismiss it as a prank.
Tent Girl's Identity Revealed. DNA tests confirm the identity of the tent girl as Barbara Hackman Taylor.
Todd Matthews' Dedication. Todd Matthews dedicates over a thousand hours to solving the case of the tent girl.
A Happy Ending. Barbara Hackman Taylor's daughter grows up to have a normal life, knowing her mother.

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Refusing to let the case go cold.

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