Todd Kohlhepp ////// Part 1 | Forensic Files

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[Music] foreign [Music] [Music] 2001. a young man not even 30 years of age named Scott Ponder decided to start up
his own business Scott was a very passionate motorcycle enthusiast so he took his love and knowledge of
motorcycles and decided to open up a motorcycle and power sports dealership called Superbike Motorsports in Chesney
South Carolina Scott's best friend Brian Lucas was hired as the first employee of Superbike
Brian shared the same enthusiasm for all things two-wheeled and Brian had the skills to service and repair motorbikes
so Brian became the Shop's service manager the store became a quick success Scott used the internet to increase his
customer base and boost sales and Superbikes saw more than one million in sales in the store's first year
Scott's mom Beverly guy became a helpful hand at her son's business often times she would run errands for
her son's store and Scott enjoyed having her around the shop so he hired her as the company's bookkeeper
in 2002 the business saw continued success in 2003 a superbike's business increased
so would the employee roster Scott and Brian hired a skilled young man named Chris Schubert to be a
mechanic Superbike Motorsports really had become the place to go for all things Motorsports
so people would go into the store to make purchases seek expert advice or sometimes just hang out and talk shop
on Thursday November 6 2003 Noel Lee a regular at Superbike and close friend of Scott Ponders called the store at 2 30
pm to tell Ponder's mother Beverly that he was coming there to drop off some tickets to a motorcycle race that would
be held the next night at the Buy Low Center no plan to go with Ponder and Lucas
Beverly told Noel that they would be at the shop and to go ahead and drop in Noel took a shower and then left his
house and he arrived at Superbike around 3 pm Noel pulled into the parking lot and he
saw his friend Brian Lucas lying face up in the front entrance of the shop Knoll parked his BMW next to Beverly's
car when he got out of his vehicle he noticed Scott Ponder's body Scott's body was in a puddle of blood
his head on the pavement his body partially on the concrete sidewalk and partially under his mother's car Brian
Lucas's body was propping the shattered glass door open Knoll stepped over his friend's body and ran inside the shop
and over to the telephone on the parts counter he called 9-1-1 at the same time Knoll is yelling to
Brian and Scott telling them that he was getting them some help while Noel was on the phone with the 911
operator he saw Scott's mother Beverly she was laying on the floor just outside the bathroom of the large showroom
which was located in the middle of the Superbike store she was not moving and there was blood
around her Knoll told the operator that there should be a fourth person Chris Sherbert
somewhere in the store but he was advised not to go wandering around the store the operator told Noel
for his own safety he needed to go outside the police and paramedics are on their
way to Superbike and you need to get out of the store the minutes he waited outside were long
ones as help arrived Lee sat across the street in the grass trying to convince himself that everything he had just
experienced was not real and that his friends were still alive when paramedics and police arrived they
found Scott Bryan and Beverly all were dead upon arrival they found Chris sherberg in the very
back of the store he had been shot once in the head and was slumped over a motorcycle that he had been working on
in that short time between the time null had called the store and arrived at the
store all hell had broken loose because sometime between 2 30 pm and 3 P.M on that Thursday in November
someone had walked into the superbike Motorsports store and shot the owner his mother and both employees in the head
this is true crime garage foreign [Music] the crime became known as the super bike
murders and it seemed as senseless as it was cold-blooded nothing was taken from the store this
was not a robbery in fact an envelope of cash was lying it was left lying in plain sight police searched for leads
and they pursued a variety of theories Sheriff Bill Coffey and his investigators they interviewed dozens of
people and they followed dozens of tips within the weeks that followed but before we get into some of those leads
Captain I want to talk about a few strange things here that that were right out of the gate with this case so just
days after the superbike murders law enforcement they're on record stating that there were some similarities to
another crime that had occurred that same year this is the May 2003 triple homicide that took place at Blue Ridge
Savings Bank both locations were somewhat isolated and the the investigators thought that
the attacks did not appear to be random now both of these attacks involve some execution-style shootings which resulted
in multiple homicides so they're stating that we're seeing some similarities here
as to what we saw with the superbike murders now at this Bank uh in May of 2003 at
the Blue Ridge Bank the bank teller Sylvia hozclaw she was killed along with two customers James and Margaret Burns
were both killed in that incident the thing that seems strange to me Captain is that they come out right at the gate
saying that we think that there's some similarities here the big problem for me is immediately there's one very
different issue is that the bank that absolutely was a robbery right it was a takeover yeah and the the super bike
situation we we see money left in plain sight and this was a very successful business this Superbike Motorsports and
think about it they're selling High ticket items you know motorcycles are not cheap you know you don't just walk
in there and pay 50 bucks and walk out of there with a motorcycle that'd be awesome if you did I would have I would
have at least three but another strange thing in this camp that I find to be very strange is that
Scott Ponder he's the uh young man that owned the super bike store he's the son of William Dean Ponder and now William
Dean Ponder is a man that went missing 13 years before Scott was killed at his store now there's no evidence to suggest
that these cases are anyway connected at all according to uh investigators but just to give you a quick rundown of that
scenario of of his father's situation that was way back in August of 1993 where William Dean Ponder spent the
evening with friends at a place called Jay's Tavern this was pretty close to his home his friends stated that they
dropped him off at the Martin feed mill at the intersection of Paris Bridge Road
and Martin Camp Road now the man was never seen or heard from again William's father was the one that
reported him missing uh reported him missing on September 2nd now William I guess had a criminal record which dated
back to 1976 and included charges for drug and alcohol offenses property crimes and weapons violations well it's
possible that the law enforcement knew more about money possibly and so maybe when they say it's similar to the bank
takeover is there some kind of money that was taken that they didn't know about or was the attacker for forced to
flee the building before he could he or she or they could make off with whatever
they intended to to get from the store right um regarding his father William was
released from prison just two months before his disappearance and I guess Foul Play is a strong suspicion in that
case because in 2006 a former acquaintance of Williams told police that William had in fact been murdered
he has been declared legally dead but his remains to this date have never been found I wanted to make sure that we
brought that up because that is a strange thing that that you find when you first start looking at these
Superbike murders you're like wait a second oh my God this guy's father has disappeared you almost feel like there's
something somebody uh working and plotting against the family but as we said investigators state that they don't
see any connection between the two crimes now back to the leads that we discussed now Scott Ponder was a bright
young businessman we said that his young business was was very successful over a
million dollars in sales its first year so of course Superbike Motorsports was located on a road and situated in town
where a lot of vehicles are going to drive past this business during the course of of a daily you know everyone's
daily routines so the first leads by law enforcement were that there was three cars that were seen at Super bikes that
day and the sheriff's department they started working with a Graphics Company to draw up computerized Composites of
the vehicles that were seen at the shop on that fateful day now the vehicles that were seen at the shop earlier in
the day are described as follows the first was was believed to possibly be an early 90s small red Chevy Cavalier or
possibly a Honda Civic with a boxy rear and then the other vehicle seen was a late model Chevrolet
Z71 pick pickup truck described as a medium blue with factory wheels and chrome exhaust and chrome bed
rails and here's a very good detailed item regarding the truck the truck had a 45 Day South Carolina tag on the back
now when the sheriff released this information to the public he was smart to remind all of us that you know
someone with a truck matching this description or if you see one call it in do not dismiss a truck of this
description simply because it no longer has the 45-day tag on the back those things expire and could be switched out
it really at any time now the Third vehicle Captain was a sporty small light blue pickup truck make and model unknown
there was another lead and this lead was a man and a woman were seen near the dealership around the time of the
murders and then shortly again after the murders both were known drug users with
Shady reputations it took some time but police were able to track these two down
and it turns out that the lead fizzled out pretty quickly they were cleared of having any involvement plus you have to
wonder too if two addicts were went into this place looking for money committed the crime why did they leave such a
large amount of cash behind and not take anything now in the weeks that followed the
massacre Noel Lee remember he's the man that that arrived at Superbike store only to find his friends had been killed
well he says that he didn't have time to grieve for his friends instead he found
himself under the scrutinizing eye of homicide detectives well he was the last one to call the shop he found them and
he has no alibi before that time that he showed up to the shop yeah and I guess technically you know we're we're going
off of what he says he found and so technically he has no alibi for his time at the shop as well one thing that's
very strange with this guy um is he had a cell phone on him and that that called into question a lot of
his actions because police were immediately like well if you saw your two friends murdered right out in front
of the shop the danger could still be in the shop the killer could still be in there right why would you why would you
practically leap over the body body of your friend run into the store and use the store's phone to call 9-1-1
now he stated simply this that when he saw his friends killed in the parking lot he just kind of forgot like you know
what I mean like nothing really made sense to him he kind of forgot everything he was I think he immediately
went into shock and just kind of went on instincts at that point well fight or flight right and he he for some whatever
reason just kind of shot into the store and picked up the phone of the store but
at least he called 9-1-1 the tricky thing too is that he tells the 9-1-1 operator after he sees you know he
didn't see Beverly guy killed until he was on the phone with the operator and at some point well he didn't see her
dead right and at some point he tells the operator this and then says you know there should
be a fourth person in the building the operator tells him well you need to get out of the building to which he does you
know he follows the direction of the operator again because he was in shock now somebody's telling him hey you
probably should be outside and he's like oh yeah and I think that probably makes
more sense I think that the investigators found it pretty curious that he happened to know that there were
four people in the store and four people were ultimately found dead there but like we said he was a regular he he was
good friends with Brian good friends with Scott and he would have known what was going on at the store he would have
had a good idea hey there's any time the stores open there's four people here right when it's like back in the day
when I talked guitar lessons I mean people would come into the store they would never see me there I was in the
back room teaching guitar lessons but regular customers that came in once a week or twice a week they knew what days
I was there on so if something happened at the store they'd easily be able to say there was probably a teacher in the
back you know I know he's there you know Monday through Thursday or whatever so the the fact that they find that
suspicious I mean this guy is dropping off tickets to them you see what I mean like it seems like
he has a closer relationship than just customer um store relationship well I'm glad you
bring that up because I don't know that everybody will fully identify with how these kind of stores run you know so
this whole this this whole business is based off of a hobby and some people people that are into Motorsports people
that are into guitars and music right they're usually pretty hardcore about those Hobbies so those are serious
time-consuming hobbies that are expensive expensive as well and you know this from working at the guitar store
that people sometimes would drop in just to kill time oh yeah we had regular customers that would probably show up
like I said once or twice a week and then sometimes they're not there to buy anything sometimes it's just part of
their routine it's become part of their weekly deal where they're like I got an extra hour and a half I'm gonna drop by
this the guitar shop see if they got anything new in see what see what the captain's up to you know just kind of
shoot the [ __ ] so to speak is what a lot of them do come in and talk shop yeah
and then if you didn't see them for a couple weeks when they came in the first thing you said Is Where Have You Been
yeah oh you know I just got busy and they'd always say but every week if they came and uh if they came in on a Monday
they'd say hey got anything new in they came in two days later you got anything new in and that was just but half the
time you won't even talk about guitar you should just kind of talk about life or whatever it was like hanging out with
your music buddies well Noel Lee the man that arrived at the super bike to find his friends murdered they fingerprinted
him they dusted his car he submitted to a lie detector test he sat through hours
and hours and hours of questioning and it took quite a bit of time and quite a bit of work on law enforcement's part
but at some point law enforcement they say that Noel Lee he was eventually cleared by the police I don't know the
details of them clearing him but that's their statement to the public this guy didn't have anything to do with the
murders of these four people now this is tragic of course these four good people they are killed and as I
said before I understand why he was a suspect in fact I I would have some strong thoughts
about his story as well I have read and seen many interviews with this guy though captain and and I hope Noel has
fully recovered from this by this point in time but there is no doubt in my mind
if you see this guy in interviews and you read his words this guy suffered from some serious PTSD from from this
incident yeah well these these were his friends yeah you know so like I said he was stopping by to drop off tickets to
event I mean like I said that goes beyond customer store relationship this was their friend and yes you have to
look at him because he is the one that found them but I don't think his story is odd I don't think his story is so odd
that makes you have to look at him I think you just have to look at him because he was the one that was there
and found them and called 9-1-1 and you have to at least rule him out or in as a
suspect now it took more than a month for detectives to track down a very important witness but they were able to
interview possibly the last person other than the killer or Killers to see the four victims alive this was a customer
who was in the shop just minutes before the shooting this is a man by the name of Kelly Sisk this witness told the
sheriff's department that he saw a man in the dealership when he was in there and he recalled how the unknown man in
the shop had inquired about a specific motorcycle and spoke as if he had little to no knowledge about bikes
so much so that the so much so that the customer found this guy's Behavior to be
strange and off-putting like to the point where even it even if nothing else would have happened
that day he made a mental note of this dude because the conversation was weird now Kelly Sisk was in there simply to
pay a payment his son had some type of I don't know if it was like an ATV or a quad or something like that but he had
some kind of recreational vehicle that they had purchased there and he said you know once once a month I would drop by
and make a payment on that but I would also you know if I went in to make a payment I would be in there
for a half an hour to 45 minutes because I'm looking at the bikes I'm talking shop this guy comes in he's talking
doesn't know what he's talking about and then I leave and then the place is shot up later
right the weird thing too is they brought Kelly back to the dealership after the murders
took place and I don't know how many days afterwards this was but they were walking him through the
store and they wanted him to point out anything to them that that looked different
then when he was last in the store what what was different about this store from
the time that you left to now after these murders have happened and he stated he told the detectives
that you know the bike that that guy was talking to the store owner about it was
a black motorcycle he said he found when they walked him through it he they found that bike in the back of
the store he said no when I was in here this guy was talking to him about this bike and it was in the showroom
so sometime between Kelly Sisk leaving the store that bike had made its way from the showroom to the back of the
store so I think this shows us that we're working with a pretty good lead a really good tip here and this produced a
description and a sketch of this off-putting man the description was a of a white man 25 to 40 years of age
approximately six foot tall 175 to 200 pounds with dark brown feathered hair let's get right back to this after this
quick beer break [Music] thank you [Music] all right we're back Cheers Cheers now
as one would expect the detectives looked into the lives of the victims to try to find a reason someone would want
to kill them Brian Scott and Beverly did not seem to have any bad blood between them or anyone else now of course police
always examine the victim's families as well and close friends and Melissa Ponder this is Scott's wife she would be
no exception so of course she is called into the station on several occasions in
the months that followed the murders during one visit to the police station Melissa changed her baby's diaper during
this visit the police unbeknownst to Melissa kept the diaper and after Melissa you know after Melissa had
thrown it away They confiscated this thing okay so this diapers taken by the police and it's later sent to to a lab
to test the DNA DNA samples had been collected from all four victims at the murder scene upon running the sample
from the diaper against that of samples collected at the Superbike store right police determined that Scott was not
actually the father of this baby what in fact the test results said that Brian Scott's close friend and employee was
the baby's father so this is a huge issue for any number of reasons not to mention Brian was married as well
they confronted the police confronted Melissa with this information and she flatly denied the possibility that
anyone that anyone other than Scott was the father of her baby so she requested that they do a second
DNA test that a second test be done well they did and for a second time the test came back with the same results
saying Brian was the father not Scott okay so does she still deny it well there's there's a little more to this
story because at that point Melissa decides to quit speaking with police about the case and she's not willing she
she will talk with them but at this point she lawyers up and she's not talking with them unless the lawyer is
present and often the lawyer is recommending that she do not speak to them at all
right now people everywhere they started to think that Melissa obviously had something to do with these murders right
now it took roughly and I say I say roughly but as it comes as as the words come out of my mouth I
could only imagine how rough it actually was but it took roughly 18 months that passed
before the cloud of Suspicion surrounding Melissa would disappear okay all right friends and family of the
victims they weren't even sure what to think at this point at some point Beverly this is Scott's mom remember who
worked at the store as well right well the police decided that they should run her DNA against her sons Scott's DNA
okay to see if anything funny was going on there the tests were run and then the results
well what comes back is it's not a match I'm okay so something very strange is going on here right yeah or bad lab work
there you go because after a lot of investigating and examining what possibly could have happened they
realized that Scots and Brian's DNA samples had been mixed up for some reason so this poor lady right right she loses
her husband and then you say hey um by the way we took the sample of this diaper we took the diaper we took some
[ __ ] right and we went down to our lab and we tested it and came out that Scott
is not the you know it's like Mori or something right it's like he is not the father and she's going wait a second he
is the father there's no possibility no no Brian's a father she's probably thinking
because she's telling the truth right right she's probably she knows she's telling the truth right she knows if she
who she slept with and who she didn't sleep with and if she's saying there's no way in hell well and the samples
probably could have been they could have been mixed up when they were collected at the crime scene because remember
these two poor guys were laying next to each each other they may have just been mislabeled from the get-go so this means
obviously that Melissa was telling the truth Scott was the father of her baby Beverly was Scott's mother just like
everyone had always thought forever right so suddenly it doesn't look so suspicious that Melissa was only willing
to speak with law enforcement with a lawyer present well it makes you start wondering the competency of the law
enforcement yet the other thing though too is we have to think about this because she's trying to help them
investigate the murder of her husband the the murder of her son's father and then at some point they are telling her
this is not Scott's baby I'm sure she's like oh my God they're they're trying to
pin this thing on me yeah well she'll and then once she knows that they're full of [ __ ] she's probably
thinking man these window lickers how are they going to solve the case well this is the shittiest test I've ever
heard of right so but just a real quick note here captain on kind of uh conflicting theories that were presented
by persons closest to the case we have the investigators that believe that the gunman uh was armed with a pistol or
handgun and he entered the shop from the back of the building and killed Chris Sherbert first while he was working on
the motorcycle that they later found him slumped over they believed then the gunman walked through the shop toward
the middle of the building then killed Beverly at the showroom then Brian Lucas at the main doorway and Scott Ponder in
the parking lot now Noel who found the bodies he says that you know he kind of disagrees with their theories and with
the rumors that he had been hearing around town the rumors he was hearing was that Scott and Brian were
potentially running from the store running from the shop to get away from someone
and he thinks that that what he thinks is more likely having known these guys is that possibly Scott was trying to
defuse some type of Confrontation that was actually outside of the store when the shots were fired and Brian ran out
to Scott's Aid so just a couple of opinions from persons closest to the case I think I
think there's a chance that that both could be right in a sense that what seems pretty clear though
is regardless of the order of the attack and how it took place Chris Sherbert he's working on the bike in the back of
the building right and he apparently is unaware that there was any type of danger at all when he was shot so either
he was surprised or had little to no time to react to what was going on or what was going to happen to him
yeah well you wonder how loud it was in the shop because if let's say it's pretty loud I didn't take that into
consideration but let's say you have some music blasting right right so then or your wrenching right yeah right some
noises happening with your tools and there's a conversation with Scott in the front with this suspect and it gets
heated he shoots Scott then Brian's coming out to help Scott he gets shot he makes his way into the
store to kill the mother but then he goes around the store to the back where they would be working on the bike and
that's why he'd be shot without knowing uh it's unlikely to me that they would not hear three gunshots but again
depends on how loud the noise is and some people will wear like noise canceling headphones when they're
working on with loud or earplugs right so we do see you know the detectives chasing the leads working them
ultimately to the point where they start clearing suspects we start seeing the people closest to the victims getting
clear to suspects specifically the wives and then the friend that found the bodies
leads that were called in about strange people or suspicious people that were shared by Witnesses those were worked
and cleared as well with the exception of the lead provided by Kelly Sisk and that's the best lead because when you
have a guy that obviously doesn't know what he's talking about or that's what this lead was saying and then that same
bike that that suspect was talking about is on you know in the back up working on
it went from the showroom to to the service room hmm you know again that would be like and all I'm doing is going
off of like guitar store knowledge but if some guy came in and he was looking at uh Flying V right and he said oh yeah
I like this Flying V but I like to buy it we'd put it on the the workbench to do a couple tweaks to it before the guy
bought it right and so if that guy then shot up the store and left it well see what I'm saying right well the thing
though is okay so Kelly Kelly doesn't know who this guy is which is which is also
strange in a way because this shop had a lot of quote-unquote regulars you know so when he's describing this guy he's
saying not only did he not know what he was talking about regarding motorcycles he's no but he's no one that I've ever
seen in the store before right and furthermore and if this does not come out very early in the investigation I
think this came out quite late but we would later find out that the the bike the black motorcycle
that Chris had been working on or doing something with when he was shot and ultimately found slumped over that bike
right that bike had a bill of sale written up for that bike but there was no customer name written on the bill of
sale so they they really believed that that just seconds before this attack went
down the bike made its way to the back of the store maybe Chris took it back there or or it
was walked back to him somebody's ringing up a bill of sale or writing it out and then the attacks must
have went down right there before they could get this customer's name right and you think a
crime that is this vicious it seems like the subject would have to know at least one or more of the victims
but we don't have really any evidence saying that is true and where we see the um what we had referred to as the
incompetence with the mixing up of the DNA samples that's a little tricky because you know does that fall on the
the crime scene texts did they did they simply label those wrong but regardless if you're going to come out with an
accusation like that maybe yeah you should have double you should double check your work yeah I mean it's one
thing to make a mistake it's another thing to not double check and then make accusations like that because
um again this this person is a victim and now you're you're going out I mean just to put in the Public's eyes that
hey your son's father is not his father that makes her look like a pretty shitty
person well not only that not only is he not the father but his his good friend maybe best friend and co-worker right or
employee is the real father and the thing is you know people's people's lives and mindsets can be fragile
especially a victim of this nature and to throw that out there you I mean you really could be pushing somebody over
the edge to committing suicide or doing something doing something completely off the off
the wall law enforcement's lucky that she's of strong mind now one thing that I do think that they
did well though the the investigators did well and I I liken this to an old FBI tactic where when they released the
description of this last known man to be in the Super Bike store this this fake customer guy when they released the
description and the sketch of him they specifically say this guy's not a suspect he we're not considering him a
suspect he he is somebody that we would like to talk to we would like for him to
come forward because we believe that he could provide information that could help solve these cases or maybe he
actually saw the real last person that was in the store right unfortunately this man does not come forward and the
now famous case known as the superbike murders or to local law enforcement as simply Superbikes was at a standstill
this case was still being worked from time to time now on the anniversary of the murders on the one two or even five
and ten years after the quad homicide the phone would ring at the police station and somebody would provide some
information that would ultimately be useless to the solving of the crimes but no matter how cold this case was
Superbikes was always on the minds of the good men and women at the sheriff's department and on the hearts and minds
of the people in the community and it just makes you wonder what like their policy or what the procedure was for
writing a bill of sale and why there wasn't somebody's name on that bill of sale I wonder too I mean this points out
to me Captain that the people selling the bike right may not have known the man's name and I know that sounds silly
but I mean they don't know his name by he's not a regular at the store right right it's more confirmation of that
maybe they had to ask him for a driver's license or something of that nature before they legitimately put it on the
bill of sale right but now we have to fast forward to 13 years later late in 2016 in a
in a completely different story here Captain this is taking place in Anderson South Carolina we have 32 year old
Charles Carver he had recently been through a bitter divorce and he's now living in an
apartment at the Anderson Crossing Apartments complex with his 30 year old girlfriend Kayla Brown
now Charles who is described as a super down-to-earth great country guy he works
at First Quality Enterprises Kayla who did a stint in the U.S army After High School was working at a
dialysis center uh she started working there in 2013. the happy boyfriend and girlfriend they were very social people
uh easy to get along with and could often be seen walking their little pomeranian dog named Romeo
like a whole bunch of us Charles and Kayla they used Facebook to stay up to date with you
know with their friends and family and such both were tight with their families and
both were considered to be very reliable and dependable people then one day in early September of 2016
people started to take notice it seems no one had seen either Charles or Kayla in quite some time
both were missing work and people started to wonder who's taking care of their little dog Romeo right they were
both reported missing and authorities started looking for the couple and started trying to determine where they
were last seen and heard from now according to police reports from the Anderson Police Department Charles's
mother Claudia had been unable to reach him since she says August 29 2016. so how long is that
well they weren't reported missing until early September and then we have Caleb Brown's friend
Leah Miller she told police that she had last heard from Kayla on August 31st but
this was in the form of a short text message right the message just simply said are you awake I guess Leah did not
answer that text until later that day but when she did reply to the text she never heard anything back from Kayla so
Charles's car had vanished as well the couple's cell phones eventually went dead
even their beloved dog was you know he's at home without food or water right now August
31st the August 31st text Captain is believed to be the last communication from either one of these people
and this is until we start seeing some activity in September and October these are odd postings that appear on Facebook
okay they're posting them well there were several news articles reporting the story okay from time to time about the
uh the missing people but then there's also some news articles that come out and they start reporting this uh one in
particular is from The Daily Beast stated that the facts pretty clearly state that someone is pretending to be
this missing couple on Facebook and they're adding that ever since Charlie Carver Charles Carver and Caleb
Brown vanished someone had been adding life events on Facebook and even messaging their friends
okay so that's strange yeah they simply asked a simple question here could this be the ex-wife remember we
talked about a bitter divorce right now according to this article from The Daily
Beast Charlie Carver's Facebook page tells the story of a man that was currently in love at the time of his
disappearance but it also states that on July 1st Carver posted that he and his girlfriend
were expecting a daughter and then on August 1st the two bought a house together and then on September 1st
the couple got married now what horrified Charles's friends and family was that all of these happy new
Milestones on his timeline were logged retroactively right they weren't logged until October 1st which was more than a
month after the time that the two were considered to have been missing right I don't know much about these uh life
posts or life events but it is weird that they're posting them afterwards I'm guessing what it is is like if you got a
new job uh September 1st that sometimes people don't post that they got a job September 1st they might wait wait a
couple weeks see how it goes right but the fact that there's all these you know we're we're expecting a kid we got
married uh for people that are very involved with their family um even if it was true you'd start
wondering well what the heck is going on with this couple they're not communicating with anybody in their
family everybody's wondering there's got to be someone out there that's posing as
Charles and still sending messages to his friends the first week of October do we
have any idea of what kind of messages uh well there was there was this incident that the first week of October
sometime in the first week of October someone had uploaded and then quickly deleted an old picture of the couple
um and there was a caption that that came along with the picture that just said we
are fine right and then that was deleted yeah and then the missing couple's case
it was starting to gain more and more attention from the media as these things were happening and then there came a
particularly cryptic post this was on well before this I mean as far as law enforcement goes again yes these people
are close with their family but it's not too far out of the realm to think that they just went missing
because they wanted to then they are still active on Facebook I mean it has to be in the back your head that this
could be them posting this stuff yeah yeah I mean yeah absolutely the the but the really odd thing is that the
purchasing of the house right is weird to me because yeah do people do people get pregnant do couples get pregnant and
decide to get married and they take off it happens it does happen right but rarely would I say do we see somebody
say oh we bought a house and then you know 30 days later we're we're at a Dodge right you can't find us anywhere
and furthermore where's this house right they were still living in the apartment
complex when when they were last seen right that would be real shitty people like hey we now got a house but we're
gonna leave the dog behind right now that we have more space for the dog unfortunately there are people out there
that there are people all that stuff so so regarding this cryptic post that was put on Charles Carver's Facebook page uh
the post that that gained a lot of attention in the media was this it was it read last thing I remember I was
running for the door I had to find the passage back to the place I was before relax said the night man we are
programmed to receive you can check out anytime you like but you can never leave
Hotel California by the Eagles now since their disappearance we said that these messages started to appear uh
and they were retroactively put on their Facebook page but during those couple of
months here we have Charles's family who they very quickly showed up after they reported him missing they took the dog
to care for the dog good good people they even paid the rent for the couple's apartment for a couple of months
and then one day Charles's family they showed up and they backed up a truck and they packed up all of the couple's
belongings and they took off right this would be very difficult on the family meanwhile you know while all this scary
crazy stuff is going on with the missing couple's Facebook pages police have an active missing persons
case going on and they are working this case from every angle Anderson Police investigators they were
able to obtain a warrant or a court order for cell phone records from a t this is Kayla Brown's cell phone service
provider police wanted to use technology to try to locate the missing couple they
wanted to see if they could locate Kayla's last cell phone signal now this is not as simple as it may sound this
isn't the more common GPS technology most people are familiar with that you know what that would only work if Kayla
had location services turned on or right like find my phone feature turned on instead what the investigators were able
to obtain they obtained cell phone records that would show which cell phone towers Kayla's phone had connected to up
until the moment that the phone had died yeah these look these are true crime listeners right they all know about cell
phone ping technology well I I know that Captain I bring this up only because there are some specific details within
this investigation that may be a little different from what we typically hear what we're used to right okay so just in
case there's one or two people out there that don't know the the the cell phone is always searching for the close
closest or strongest signal so cell towers keep a log of these pings you know when when the two two connect with
each other there's a ping so since pings are being sent constantly between multiple Towers records will then allow
law enforcement later to triangulate a phone's location based on the strength of the pings between the towers right
well to triangulate this and to really narrow it down to a specific location you need three towers
in this situation this situation is quite a bit it's quite more difficult because
this situation we only have two towers that are nearby right because this is a rural area
so having becomes a lot harder right having two towers nearby versus three gives a
larger search area because the search area should be based on where the two towers where the where the tower signals
overlap right so here you would only have two rather than three what they discovered in Kayla's cell phone
situation that it had pinged indicating Kayla's phone was in a town 50 miles Northeast of where the two had lived and
the phone was sending a signal up to two days after she was last seen on August 31st and these pings were coming from
the location of Woodruff South Carolina so Captain we have the super bike quadruple homicide that takes place in
2003 and then 13 years later we have The Disappearance of this young couple that's receiving media attention because
of these strange Facebook postings well what did the two of these cases have to do with one another we'll get to that
tomorrow and part two [Music] till tomorrow everybody out there be good be kind and don't litter
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Episode 189 - 3pm on November 6th, 2003 someone walked into the Superbike Motorsports store in Chesnee, South Carolina and shot the owner, his mother and both employees in the head. The crime became known as “The Superbike Murders” and it seemed as senseless as it was cold-blooded. Nothing was taken from the store. It became one of the most famous cold cases in the state of South Carolina. Police refused to give up on the case and thirteen years later they got what they had been looking for but it started with the disappearance of a young couple.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the Superbike murders and the mysterious disappearance of a couple, exploring connections between the two cases.

Key points

Noel Lee's Discovery. Noel Lee arrives to find his friends murdered, leading to a frantic 911 call.
The Superbike Murders. A chilling account of the murders at Superbike Motorsports, where four were killed execution-style.
Strange Connections. The investigation reveals eerie similarities to another homicide case earlier that year.
Strange Encounter at the Shop. A customer notes a peculiar interaction with a man at the motorcycle shop.
Paternity Revelation. DNA tests reveal shocking truths about the father of Melissa's baby.
DNA Mix-Up. Investigators discover a mix-up in DNA samples that complicates the case.

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