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[Music] I don't know [Music] Captain we are here on part two of what we are calling our Las Vegas crime
stories and why would we be covering multiple crime stories from Sin City Las Vegas well of course that's because we
are attending crime con 2022. that's right you boys are back at crime con we're excited to be there and
in the past we've done this you know last year we were in Austin Texas for Crime con and we did a bad day in Austin
leading up to that week we want to give you something good to listen to on your travels there and on your travels back
and just to let you know a bad day in Austin is isn't about food poisoning no it's about two real-life True Crime
cases some crazy stuff that that went down all in one day in Austin so as we gear up for Crime con here we are
talking about Vegas crime stories and there are so many interesting ones to cover we hope you enjoy the ones that we
chose for this week so in a sense everyone this is a part two but if you haven't listened to part one don't worry
you can continue on because we covered a completely different True Crime Story start to finish in part one this week so
thank you for joining us back here in the garage and we got another great interesting Vegas crime story for you
here today let's start off by introducing a very important individual this man his name is John L Bailey John
was born in November of 1942 in the great state of Massachusetts he graduated from the University of
Pittsburgh and served this great country in the United States Marine Corps and in
the Vietnam conflict during which he was decorated with two bronze stars and in 1969 he became a special agent with the
Federal Bureau of Investigation the FBI and was eventually assigned to several different field offices this included
Louisville New York and then lastly Las Vegas that leads us to the start of today's story here Captain because we're
starting off on June 25th 1990 and this is when special agent John L Bailey he is on duty working for the FBI's Las
Vegas office now one of his assignments for that day is to go to the Security Pacific Bank today the bank is still
there but it's called Bank of America this is in Las Vegas Nevada their special agent Bailey was serving a
subpoena in the bank agent Bailey arrived at the bank with no issues at all but while inside the bank something
happened agent Bailey hears a scream followed by some commotion he quickly identifies where the scream
came from and he rushes over to a female bank teller now the teller tells special
agent Bailey that the man who had just left her window had a gun and attempted to rob her attempted to rob the bank now
I'll break from the action for a second here and play John Madden commentary for
you and fill in the blanks what has happened here is that a man has disguised himself as a woman with gauze
on one cheek and he's got one of his arms in a sling my guess is that he might have been
using the sling to hide or conceal the gun right or maybe he hurt his arm with too much flicky flicky he approaches the
teller he tells the teller you know she's friendly hey welcome to Security Pacific Bank how can I help you he tells
her shut up this is a robbery so he makes a robbery attempt but the teller it freaks her out so she screams when
she sees the gun and he says shut up she screams and it's reported that she screamed
592 or or 592. those numbers now I'm guessing that's some kind of code in that bank for
robbery or you know she shouts this out and jumps back from the counter this in turn
startles the robber who then must have decided to abort the whole robbery plan altogether
right because then he turns and starts to walk back toward the door to exit the building well this is when special agent
John Bailey steps in so picking up where we left off now the teller is telling special agent Bailey that the man who
had just left her window he had a gun and had attempted to rob her so bayley turns and runs after the robber
and of course he draws his service weapon he identifies himself as an FBI agent and ordered the bank robber to stop
the man still walking to the nearest exit starts to turn back toward the agent and as this man turns keep in mind
he still has his gun in his hand reacting to seeing the gun special agent Bailey fired off one shot
which does not hit our robber it hits the door that he was attempting to leave from which as most of us know a lot of
these doors in these banks are glass so he hits this door and the glass shatters
well this scares the would-be robber enough to the point where he is now going to listen to the agent and he does
drop his gun well let's back up just a little bit because I do have some experience of being a banker and working
in that industry for quite a while so let's let's go over some protocol when you are a teller and look I worked many
years and sometimes as a roaming teller so you have a home location but then there's multiple locations when they are
short staffed then you have to go over and work and one of the things that tellers talk
a lot about is have you been robbed but no oh I have been this is what happened and they remember every detail
but oddly they might remember their actions and what they were doing and how they felt they might not remember
the details of the actual robber themselves so the protocol is this or and I'm sure it's changed throughout the
years and with technology but we've all seen in Hollywood movies there's a silent alarm that you hit and
that alarm then will let your security if you have security know but it also could send an
alarm to police it also sends alarms to other employees at the bank if if your system set up I've worked in different
banks where it would alarm the managers and other people and I've worked in other situations where you you hit the
button and you have no clue what it does it might go straight to alerting local police but so I'm the teller guy comes
up let's say he passes me a note give me all your money I'm going to try to hit that alarm if I can if I can't
I have two things that I can give the robber one a die pack it looks just like a
strapped money sometimes on the Note they'll say no strap money just lose money so in that
scenario or if they're communicating you with you vocally and they say no strap money you are trained to just don't even
try to hand it to him or they might tell you well put it on the counter see if they take it
so you have the die pack which will then eventually explode and then you have another pack which is
marked money so the marked money is just regular money but we have a record of what the serial numbers of those dollars
are so if you can get to the silent alarm if you can give them the die pack or if you
could give them what they call the bait money again I'm sure it's different for every
bank but one of the banks that I worked at once you pulled the bait money it would also trigger trigger alarm so
the main situation you're trying to avoid as the teller is a takeover situation you want the robber in and out
as fast as you can and you want to avoid this situation like the movie Point Break for example that's a terrifying
takeover situation multiple men multiple guns and they're violent and willing to
shoot and willing to Fire and and yelling and screaming at the the the employees as well as the customers of
the bank as well yeah and and also people might be familiar with the movie The Town which I think is a brilliant
movie brilliant it take over in the sense of a robber or multiple robbers getting
behind the line you want to keep the desk or the whatever console you're behind in between you two and you want
to just get them whatever they want that's why a lot of these bank robbers will say well if you if you don't go
after a bunch of money you're going to get a bunch of stuff real quick and then get out of there but
you might a lot of people would think that the number is high but they would give you a
yearly estimate like this year the average bank robber only walked away with three hundred dollars so it's a lot
lower than you would think which is insane because it's a federal offense because it's a
bank you'd be smarter as a criminal to go rob a business we've we've learned that from doing True Crime garage when
we cover these cases where a business is robbed it's thousands of dollars usually
that they're leaving with a business yeah and so we had a scenario and it also weirdly happens
where there's not that many customers in the bank and I don't know if that's something that bank robbers are are
looking for or maybe there's too many people in the bank so then they get scared because you would have to deal
with like in this situation off-duty police officer or on duty police officer but I
remember a case where there's two people online there was a lady and there was a
man and there was just two tellers out I was on the far left side the other teller
was on the far right side there was multiple uh workstations between us and the lady finished
and I noticed that the teller to the right of me was kind of busy so I motioned the guy come forward come
forward and I just knew like I just had this feeling there's something off about this
guy and so I ducked down because I had a bunch of coin that I needed to put in my
stations little tiny Vault and locked the door and I did that and he decided to not go to me
because again I'm 6'3 my my colleague was five four maybe he was a pretty small guy so he went to him
and as I'm coming up thinking that the guy is going to be at my station I turn the guy's already gone and my co-worker
is just white you know the ghostly white and I'm like you okay he's like I just was robbed and I was like hit your
button and then there's a protocol afterwards well did did you hit your alarm no you didn't that's okay hit this
alarm did you pull your bait money no go ahead and pull that and then then I'm directed to hit my alarm and then I went
and locked the doors and you call the cops and you just shut down the whole bank so even though there there was no
gun involved there was no note involved in this case but you you see right away how affected
somebody is just by the robbery attempt yeah and even without the presence of a firearm you as a person and you're being
robbed you you never the idea that there could be a firearm on this person does not leave your mind right and so and
just to kind of point something out here captain you pointed out your height but I'm also
thinking yeah no kidding he went to the smaller teller because if this individual is not armed and just
wants to hand a note and the captain's having a bad day well you got quite the wingspan too my friend you could grab
this guy and just hold him to the counter until the authorities get there and here's what's funny and not to look
I I think people should take this very serious and I would also suggest that in the banking industry they've
dealt with this so much that they know would rather lose money than a person yes and so we have came up
with these protocols for safety but when my co-worker was his name was Ray he's like I was robbed
I I don't know what happened it was like this shot of a adrenaline and I was like
yelling and cursing and it's like because I like I said when I said come over here hey I can help you down here
it's like I knew there was something wrong and then he goes I was robbed and I'm screaming you know the the mother
effort could have came to me like that coward and I'm like screaming and and again it could be one of those
situations you're handed that note and you're having a bad day and you go no not today buddy well that guy pulls
out a gun takes over the bank it becomes a whole different scenario not to you know talk too much about my
personal story but then I have to notify everybody in the bank we were just robbed there's a
couple ladies in the break room and I say hey guys I just locked the doors we were just robbed
and my manager at the time just goes ghost white and she's like physically shaking
and tears are just rushing out of her face she gets up and she's she's our manager
so she's trying to make sure that everybody's okay and I noticed that she's there's
something wrong with her and I'm like Heather it's okay we're we were you know yeah the guy just got a couple bucks we
locked the door raised fine and then I found out that she actually was a part of a takeover
um up in I I don't know if you remember this in Westerville and one of the security guards which was
off-duty cop was actually she was laying on the ground and he was in a room and he was trying to come out
I think he had his gun drawn and everything was going to try to come out onto the people robbing the bank and
they shot him and he fell and like right by her and he ended up dying it was a big case
in Ohio and I didn't know that she was a part of that but she was I mean she was a mess I mean you could
just see you know PTSD happening in front of your face you could see what trauma does to an individual which then
took our seeming to be not such a serious life-threatening situation and it became
way more intense and it's probably the reason why I remember every little step that happened for the
next hour well it's real interesting to me too the way that these agencies will work on these types of crimes and and
different crimes you know but in reference to bank robberies you know the FBI for years and probably still do had
a squad that was back then back in the 70s was referred to as the crime prevention sorry
back in the 70s and 80s was referred to as the crime prevention and reactionary Squad and in fact John Douglas friend of
our show he served in that reactionary Squad before this whole profiling thing came
about with the Behavioral Science unit and so one thing that they did when they specialized in bank robberies and I
always found this to be fascinating they were trying to go in and teach bank tellers and bank managers and kind of
set up some of the protocols that you're talking about here Captain so that one not only can we try to prevent
as many future bank robberies as possible but if one should happen how should the teller or managers behave so
that we get some information on the criminal right and one thing that I found fascinating was he was saying the
first thing that they noticed that was wrong in most of the bank robberies most of these bank robberies go down just
like you said the person robbing the bank much different than our Las Vegas situation
hands a note instead of saying hey shut up this is a robbery hands a note they want it to be kind of on the DL be very
quiet they want to get that money and they want to get out of there and hopefully not have to pull a gun in the
process but the very first thing that they noticed that would be would be uh to the
FBI's Advantage who would later investigate the bank robbery was that the teller just out of natural instinct
almost always gave the note back to the robber along with the money yeah not to cut you off but that's again one of the
protocols if the robber then comes in and hands you a note you are to take that note yes just as you would a
deposit and so what they were teaching the FBI was actively teaching Banks specifically banks in certain regions
where there was a high trend of bank robberies going on the first thing that they taught them was at the very least
drop the note on the floor in front of you behind the counter right do not give it back to the robber because at the
very least we can get a handwriting sample or maybe there'll be something on that piece of paper that will help us to
later identify this person or where they came from all very interesting stuff I imagine with your protocols that you had
there was no and I can't imagine that this being a protocol anywhere all of these years later but in 1990 I can only
assume her screaming 592 was some kind of code for the bank which you wouldn't want to do that because I
would believe that screaming something like that and and I'm not faulting this teller right she simply reacting to a
very stressful and surprising situation but yelling something like that could very quickly
lead to maybe even a hostage situation I don't know if there we were directed during training of where to put the note
but we had two drawers our top money drawer and then we had our secondary drawer and we were then instructed if
you get a note put it put it in the secondary drawer and just shut it you don't have to lock it but it was a lot
about you know trying to remain calm and look the bacon industry it's high turnover you work with somebody for a
couple months and they're gone especially at the lower level positions but one thing that I can't applaud them
for is did Rey make all the best decisions did he give the note back if he made mistakes or or you did things
differently than your training during that situation nobody faulted you right there it was a
lot of compassion to go hey you went through this and every now and there there'd be some
jerk you know have you ever been robbed oh yeah I was robbed it was terrifying well was there a gun no it's just a note
well you're you're a [ __ ] or you're this or yeah you don't want to stick around to find out if there is a gun
yeah and it's like that's my argument anytime there was some douchebag going oh yeah man well I would have I would
have jumped over the counter and karate kicked the guy in the face it's not your
money dude if they're crazy enough to come in knowing that it's a federal charge you don't know what their intent
is is their intent to get a thousand bucks is their intent for you to open up the drawer and then they pull out a gun
you know are in this moment are they going to go from what I wanted a thousand bucks but now I think I could
get more well and I imagine the overall general idea is and unfortunately it's not going to work out that way in
today's True Crime Story but I would imagine the general idea is give them the bait money and get them out of there
as soon as possible hopefully they just take what you give them turn around and they leave and then we don't end up with
a situation where someone gets hurt unfortunately in our case here today captain that will not be the situation
we have agent Bailey who identifies himself to the fleeing robber as an FBI agent he's got his service gun drawn
pointed toward this man who's trying to flee the exit he turns the robber turns and looks at him and when that happens
the agent identifies the gun in his hand he fires off a shot the agent fires off
a shot which then goes through the glass door scares the robber enough that he drops
his gun so agent Bailey grabs the robber now he's holding him up against a wall as you can kind of picture when these
cops you know arrest somebody on TV they put him up against the wall and we look
like we're about to Cuff this guy okay so now as it would appear we have everything under control we had
all this commotion now we have everything under control guy attempts to rob a bank and as luck would have it for
him an FBI agent just so happens to be in the bank mind you this bank had none of its own security at the bank
so it is time for this guy to be taken into custody now acting swiftly special agent Bailey he frisks the robber
and he has him sit down in a chair so he can kind of control him now one teller dials 9-1-1 and agent Bailey told
someone else to call the local FBI office and let them know that there's been a robbery attempt but there's an
agent here that's got the situation under control can you send additional agents and then
he has to ask another bank employee to go and retrieve his handcuffs from his car
and keep in mind special agents with the FBI are not frequently using handcuffs day to day you know they're not like
beat cops that need to carry the handcuffs all the time or multiple handcuffs because they're using them
frequently the robber is in the chair while Bailey is waiting for the handcuffs the bank employee returns with the Cuffs
but before agent Bailey could shackle the robber his attention special agent Bailey's attention was apparently
diverted and when this happens the robber sees an opportunity and so the bank robber lunged at Bailey
knocking the agent's gun out of his hand and knocking Bailey to the ground so there's a brief scuffle now but
before agent Bailey could retrieve his gun the bank robber recovers his own weapon
[Music] foreign [Music] all right we are back mates cheers to you the windows to the walls cheers to you
captain and cheers to everybody that's going to Crime con this weekend so where we left off here we have agent Bailey
who's trying to apprehend this individual to try to rob the Security Pacific Bank and instead before he could
shackle this individual we have a scuffle that breaks out the robber sees an opportunity knocks Bailey to the
ground and then before Bailey can recover his weapon well the bank robber recovered his own weapon now with gun in
hand the robber takes a couple steps toward agent Bailey and fires off a shot then another step toward the agent and
then fires off several more shots meanwhile remember 9-1-1 has already been called by this point
this was done right after the robbery attempt so right as the robber was attempting to flee and Bailey was in
pursuit of him 9-1-1 is called so now the teller has to dramatically change the information that she is providing to
the emergency dispatcher because unfortunately this whole situation went from apprehending the robbery to
way out of control very very quickly the teller is saying to the 911 dispatcher quote the suspect is firing shots the
teller told the emergency dispatcher quote yes he has shot the FBI agent the FBI agent has been shot end quote I mean
absolute chaos but again remind the listeners what this individual looks like yes remember the robber has
disguised himself as a woman dressed as a woman an injured woman with the gauze on the face and an arm in the sling and
of course after the scuffle breaks out I'm sure that the arm is no longer in a sling here
but in all the robber unfortunately managed to shoot special agent Bailey three times a total of three times
well not wanting to stick around the robber runs out of the building and then runs to a scene running to a blue
Firebird now not only did this guy show up armed to the bank that day and in a disguise
he had a getaway car and driver waiting for him outside of the bank so the robber jumps into this blue
Firebird in the passenger side and the driver steps on the gas and away they go now as the gunman fled to the waiting
Car special agent Bailey is still lying on the ground severely injured he's in very bad shape at this point shot three
times a short time later Bailey was transported to a hospital where he had succumbed to the three gunshot wounds
unfortunately agent Bailey passed away on that day in 1990. now this man thought he was going to be walking out
of the bank with a big bag of cash right the robber thought he would have a successful robbery at this point in his
day had everything gone as planned he thought he would be sitting somewhere celebrating probably having a drink or
two dividing up the cash with his getaway guy right instead he's got nothing except a pissed off driver well in a
murder charge yes now he's responsible for killing a federal agent yeah but let's go back to the before the conflict
Robert comes up she yells what five nine two correct scares the guy he takes off if there is
no shot if there's no confronting this individual there's no there is no murder right that's one of those things about
this case that's just haunting to me how you know we talk about this all the time
how life can change on a dime especially in these True Crime cases the weird scenario of two things one we would
later learn that they case this joint and you'll see once we start going through some of this evidence that that
is obvious but they case the joint and this robber whoever he is he picked this bank and decided to go forward with the
plan because they had no security they didn't have armed officers or security guards there at the bank so that was one
of the reasons for choosing this Bank who would have thought agent Bailey never would have thought
this the bank robber never would have thought this anybody in the bank that day never would have thought this that
on the same day at the same moment two individuals that probably decided that they had to be at this Bank on this day
for completely different reasons days earlier right the agent knows he has to serve a subpoena at some point
this robber decides yes this is the bank for me to go do the job who would have thought that two people from very
different walks of life would be walking into that same bank roughly the same time and be in the same four walls
both armed to carry out completely different missions and both lives have changed in a matter of just seconds to
minutes here in this case one life taken way too early and now another man who is on the run
and you're right Captain it's one of those things that is just so damn haunting and really sad too to sit back
and think about it and look back on it because hindsight is always 20 20. that's what they tell us and I guarantee
you if you could ask special agent Bailey if you could ask the robber if you could ask anybody that was there
that day if we would have just done nothing or done something different we will probably be looking at a
completely different outcome well and that's one of the reasons why the banks release these statistics
are you coming to the bank and you rob us you're walking away with the average of a couple hundred bucks
so is that even worth putting yourself into this situation and that's why a lot of these Banks they
used to have armed guards and they realize that sometimes that escalates situations instead of
de-escalating them and then you see now a lot of situations where Banks won't have armed guards on staff well and I
want to be perfectly clear here too I'm not blaming I'm blaming zero percent of the situation on special agent Bailey
this man took an oath to protect and serve and he certainly did that that day he died a hero and this is a man that
served our great country two bronze Stars this is a man that that decided one day
when I see something wrong going on when I see a bad person I'm going to step into action and I'm going to take care
of business well that's uh they they made just like with nurses you know they make though to to help individuals so if
you ever seen somebody in public I was on a plane recently and this lady was having an issue and there was a couple
nurses that just sprung into action and you just realized that these are some Elite humans just like this individual
he he made the oath I'm going to protect and serve my community and and he did so
and what's so sad is okay so this guy comes in to rob the bank you're gonna walk away with a couple hundred bucks
and now you got a murder charge is it worth the greed all of the blame lies on the side of the bad guys of the robbers
because had this not taken place at all none of this would have come about so not blaming agent Bailey and in fact the
the thing is with a lot of our good women and men that protect and serve and serve this country in the military you
ask them to do a job that most people cannot do it's not fair to ask them to turn it on
and off they got to be on a lot of these people have to be on all the time well I
just want to say this guy's a [ __ ] bag and also your makeup didn't look that good either
no I bet you he made for one ugly it was one ugly woman check this out though Captain
our Guy special agent John Bailey before the Man rushed him knocking him to the floor
Bailey took the guy's wallet he he was already in the the apprehending process so far that he had
taken this man's wallet so after the robber fled the scene we now have police and EMTs
arriving on the scene and the officers quickly noticed the robber's wallet is still at the scene a police officer who
arrived at the crime scene shortly after the robber fled discovered a motorcycle
parked in the handicapped parking space just outside of the Security Pacific Bank an investigation of the vehicle
identification number or the VIN on the motorcycle revealed that a man named Jose achevera was the owner of that
motorcycle now a quick check with the DMV or BMV or whoever you are and wherever you're from whatever they call
it there disclose that the license plate attached to that motorcycle in the handicap spot belonged to another
vehicle it was not a license plate that was to go on that motorcycle someone had
switched the plate but we know who the motorcycle belongs to because we have the van
but the rightful owner of the license plate found on the motorcycle was identified
as a one Carlos Alfredo Guri let's review some of the evidence that we have here Captain because we have this
motorcycle we have the license plate we have the wallet of the individual who was attempting to rob the bank we also
have the grainy surveillance camera video the footage that captured the desperate
fight between the agent and the robber and we also have the 9-1-1 call which was recorded which was the teller
explaining what was going on shortly after the robbery attempt and through the scuffle and the shots itself
unfortunately you can even hear faintly in the background some of the shots while the operator is on the phone with
this teller if you had this information it was just a robbery I mean they'd obviously take it pretty serious but
you have officer dead this becomes very serious so where are they going to take this information and what are they going
to do with it you're exactly right Captain this is an all hands on deck type of situation we got everybody at
the Las Vegas branch of the FBI that is going to want to find both of these individuals arrest and convict
them and look that spreads throughout this entire country that's a federal agency and then you have local PD this
ends up being a very big case very quickly a very big investigation and luckily for the investigation itself
you've kind of been delivered your Prime suspects names on a silver platter you got the motorcycle you got the
license plate and you got some man's identification so what they do is a quick check on both of these individuals
running their names through the system Mr Carlos and Mr Jose running their names through the system they very
quickly figure out that the two of course they know each other I'm guessing that at one point they probably
were concerned that maybe Jose had simply lifted a plate off of somebody else and put it on the
motorcycle but again they know that somebody drove Jose away from the scene after the robbery attempt
they figure out that these two guys share an apartment together and what I'm guessing happened here Captain is that
you have they were laid on rent well I who knows what they needed the money for wanted the money for but regardless I'm
thinking as far as what played out before the robbery attempt is probably one of these individuals likely Jose
arrives on the scene Parks the motorcycle and the handicap spot probably Fashions himself up quickly in
this this not so great disguise of a woman with the the arm and a sling because you don't want your getaway
vehicle sitting out in the parking lot for minutes or an hour or what have you you also don't want your getaway driver
constantly just circling around the building waiting waiting for you to come out so I'm guessing that he went in
there on the motorcycle Parks it goes in in Disguise thinks that he can make a quick robbery who who knows how much
money they were hoping to get they probably have a designated time hey at this time this is when I'm going to be
inside the bank you need to be out front of the bank as quickly as possible and I
can flee and jump into that vehicle and we can drive off into the sunset together maybe retrieve the motorcycle
later or leave it there altogether who knows but of course we know that their plan
didn't work out that way and when they discovered that these two individuals lived together and shared an apartment
together there is a little bit of break in the action right they're not going to
know immediately how to track down both of these individuals it takes just I'm imagining
here just hours if not one day's turnaround time but ultimately they locate Carlos Guri the getaway driver
at his home at the apartment he's still there they arrest him at the apartment now what they're doing in the meantime
is they have his picture and they have Jose echeveras picture as well they're showing these
pictures to people that work at the bank and anybody that they think may have seen these individuals or interacted
with them before what they end up happening here Captain is a lot of people are starting to tell the
investigators hey that that Carlos gurri guy I saw a guy that looked just like him
lurking around the bank days before and yes he was always on a motorcycle or near a motorcycle he was just kind of
hanging around outside of the bank they figure out ultimately that he was casing
The Joint my guess here too is that Jose echevera was probably casing The Joint as well we just don't have anybody
saying that they saw Jose echevere there before the robbery so they cased out this joint and believe you me it is not
by accident in my opinion that they picked this bank because there was no armed guard
now they're on the lookout for this Jose echevera well on the 26th of June they're going to get a phone call
that they really wanted and this is the Mexican authorities calling and saying we got your guy
Jose echevera fled to Mexico but was apprehended by Mexican authorities and he was then taken to an airport and
returned to the United States got him now both men are going to be facing charges of first-degree murder and of
course they didn't plan on killing anybody that day when they chose to rob the bank but
as we know in many states if you commit a murder especially that of a federal agent in the process of committing other
felonies well you're going to face you're going to be looking at the most strictest of punishments the the most
strictest of charges and so they're both charged with first degree murder in 1991
Jose echevera was convicted on five counts one was first degree murder and the use
of a deadly weapon burglary attempted robbery escape and conspiracy he was sentenced to death Carlos was also
convicted of first-degree murder with the use of a deadly weapon burglary attempted robbery and conspiracy
receiving a life sentence in prison with the possibility of parole now both men appealed their convictions Jose also
appealed his sentence is there charges higher because it's a federal building and it's
a federal agent I would imagine that's all encompassing in this situation here the the other thing that's key too is
not only did he kill an FBI agent but he killed an FBI agent after the man after agent Bailey identified
himself as such right so the the suspect knows that this is a federal agent and with that comes a different set of
charges and pencil and penalties one of the the difficult things here in this case though captain and one of the
things that is in Jose echevera's appeals he had multiple appeals obviously but in one of the appeals his
argument was Mexican authorities they it sounds like they did a number on him once he was arrested or at least
according to Jose's version of the story that they beat him up pretty good and this before returning him to the United
States he says during the course of of them beating him up and and the torture or whatever they put him through that
that's when he confessed to them what's difficult here though is it doesn't appear that that
confession was really used in any way for the conviction of this individual and I don't know how this would work you
know a lot of this legal stuff is very tricky to kind of parse out and sift through
but the situation would be even if he is telling the truth he was assaulted by an
agency outside of this country not by an any of our agencies that worked his case
in Las Vegas or in the United States my my issue with a lot of these criminals is they they want to be treated a
certain way they want to be pampered in such a way essentially these these horrible
[ __ ] stains they're animals it's like uh you see on TV somebody there's a high speed chase
and when the officers get the guy they slam him on the ground just a little bit too hard
and people go oh look at that that's police brutality and you're like this guy was driving
hundreds of miles an hour in all these zones where if he would have hit a child yes or I mean it's like and and that's
the frustration once they get their hands on right one of these [ __ ] prisons it's like they okay they slammed him
down a little bit too hard they cuffed him a little too hard they don't care that he's a little uncomfortable it's
criminal brutality for the all the events that led up to being slammed onto the ground exactly it's the the human
indifference toward other potential loss of life or injury to your fellow man by
the criminal as well that upsets me it's just like what we talked about in yesterday's case
they put that bomb on top of a car in a public place anybody could have walked up and picked that thing up it could
have been it someone that it was not intended for and I'm not saying that I wanted it to hit anybody at all right
I'm just saying anybody a child could have walked over and picked that thing up and that's the thing that that I get
upset about too here Captain is that these criminals we see it time and time again this these guys set out on a
mission to take an armed weapon to be armed and go into a bank with a weapon and Rob the
place for money for money and in the process one of them murdered a federal agent and the other individual
helped drive that person away from the scene and so we have this time and time again where
criminals will ask or expect a certain level of respect expect a certain level of compassion of
human decency from the rest of us from the general public from all of the citizens of this great country and other
great countries when in turn they would never give us any respect they would never show us any compassion they would
never show us any human decency and I'ma get what you give kind of person you ain't getting that from me yeah preach
on brother man we also had a couple of situations take place that I think are interesting to this case and provide
additional evidence against these two individuals one was that blue Firebird was recovered it was found abandoned
along a highway and they also figured out that at Jose echevera's request another individual actually buried
two the two guns that were used in the robbery the one that shot John L Bailey and those guns were later recovered so
we had some other individuals that faced some charges as well in this situation we do have agent Bailey who he had a
family he had a wife and a family his daughter is now grown and what they did was they they actually dedicated the the
Las Vegas FBI building which is located at Lake Mead and at Martin Luther King this building was dedicated and named in
memory of Special Agent John L Bailey that took place in August of 2007. and I know we this is what we do
it's called True Crime garage I know we're going to talk about crimes it's aggravating but yeah I mean it's
like just be better people it's just I was in the grocery store line the other day and it's like they didn't have
enough lines open and this lady just started acting like a child and I just thought your your daughter's here be
better Kinder humans patience truly is a virtue yeah or you get up in the line and the lady in front of me is
complaining complaining to the cashier it's like do you think the cashier wants a huge line no she looks miserable she
looks miserable because there's 20 people in her line and there's no backup coming and you just go why can't you be
better people or like when you're driving down a two-lane Highway and you see a car
coming into your lane because they're on their freaking phone I can't can't we all just start being a
little bit more mature a little more aware of others a little bit more compassionate like you can spread
kindness I know that sounds maybe a little hippie sappy whatever you want to say but you can spread kindness
you could spread kindness you can spread love try to make this try to wake up every day and make this
world a little bit better [Music] we will be at crime con Las Vegas this Friday and Saturday on podcast row so if
you are there in attendance please drop by our little table and say hello to the
captain say hello to the colonel and everybody traveling to Las Vegas this weekend safe travels to you have a fun
safe time while you're there I just want to hug and squeeze and kiss it each and
every one of you hold you tied to my bosom make me feel good like like I'm filled
up with a warm Campbell Soup Colonel do we have any recommended reading for the Beautiful List yes we do Captain this
week we are recommending a new book that's a great book it's called the girl I never knew by Ladonna Humphrey and
guess what little surprise here the forward was written by yours truly so make sure you check out the girl I never
knew by Ladonna Humphrey and that is available in paperback and it's about the Melissa wit case still unsolved
after all of these years did you have a ghost writer no did you use a computer or did you use a typewriter I used a
computer and a notepad if we if we really want to get you 30 here first folks right pen to paper and then
fingers to keyboard yeah check out the girl I never knew you can find that great title and many more on our website
at True Crime garage.com on our recommended page yeah so much stuff anything True Crime that you want to
check out we got a great store Page got the recommended reading we got the links
for off the Record so much stuff check it out until next week be good be kind and don't let it
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Chaos at the Bank; June 1990 - F.B.I. Agent John L. Bailey is serving a subpoena at the Security Pacific Bank in Las Vegas. At the same time a robbery is in progress. Join us in the Garage as we gear up for Crime Con 2022 Las Vegas. This week we are talking Vegas True Crime stories.

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Brief Summary

FBI agent John L. Bailey was killed during a bank robbery in Las Vegas, leading to a major investigation and the capture of the suspects.

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Welcome to True Crime Garage. Join Nick and the Captain as they dive into true crime stories from Las Vegas.
Las Vegas Crime Stories. Exploring multiple crime stories from Sin City as the hosts gear up for Crime Con 2022.
The Robbery Attempt. Special Agent John L. Bailey intervenes during a bank robbery attempt in Las Vegas.
The Robbery Escalates. What started as a robbery quickly spirals out of control with shots fired.
The Aftermath of the Robbery. The robber escapes, leaving agent Bailey severely injured and ultimately dead.
Agent Bailey's Heroism. Special agent Bailey confronts a bank robber, leading to a tragic shootout.

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