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talk some true crime Logan just about 50 Mi away from Columbus the heart of Ohio back in 1982
Logan's population was just a touch over 6500 salt of the earth people carving out an existence in Southeastern Ohio
Logan is arguably one of the most beautiful areas in Ohio Ash Cave Cedar Falls and of course the Hawking Hill
State Park these are gorgeous sceneries and Landscapes but as we all know evil can lurk anywhere even in the most
beautiful of Living Spaces evil can be waiting for you in the caves or stalking you on the hills
and often evil is even closer to home than any of us would dare to believe there was much excitement for
the people of Logan back in the fall of ' 82 on October 2nd Logan hosted their annual Fall Festival of bands a
gathering of some of Ohio's best high school marching bands and later that month trick-or treat beggar night and
Halloween Greg Schultz described the time saying when I grew up we had the run of the town because it was a small
town would take off in the morning be gone all day and come back home at night when the street lights came on you went
home everyone kept an eye on us the Youth of 1982 Logan Ohio shared the same sentiment they had never heard of
horrific murders before other than from the fictional slasher films of their day but that all changed in early
October when the deranged killers from the movies seemingly jumped off of the movie theater screens and into the hills
of Logan causing the public to panic and wonder were the murders of a smart well-liked young couple an isolated
incident or was it a sign of what was to come this week we discussed the murders
that terrified a community and left more victims than we will ever [Music] know [Music]
Margaret Annette Cooper later in life she would go by the beautiful name of Annette Annette was born June 11th 196
64 in Zena Ohio and that was a pretty blonde many refer to her as a local Beauty others said she had a bit of a
troubled past After High School she was off to Hawking College an 18-year-old student full of life and dreams and as
of October 1982 Annette was in a year-long relationship with 19-year-old Todd Schultz Todd from Nelsonville
Ohio he was born just less than a year before forette and their relationship was pretty serious what started off as a
courtship based off of mostly physical attraction had blossomed into a possible wedding engagement Todd's mother said
the two had not made it official but they were certainly talking about it now Todd was a good kid with a great sense
of humor and everybody said that he loved children After High School he went to vocational school and studied graphic
design it was well known that Todd was quite the photographer he he hoped to find a career where he could get into
something where he could take pictures and write articles Todd was 19 years old and a volunteer firefighter they're a
typical teenage couple from a typical small town now leading up to October 1982 Annette was living with Todd and
his family at Todd's parents house she shared a room with Todd's sister Kendra and that came from what some if not most
locals refer to as a strange family and's family was for the most part considered to be
Outsiders to the people and the community of Logan and anyone from Logan will tell you that still to this very
day that most people born and raised in Logan don't much care for transplants or
Outsiders mhm Annette Schulz her stepfather Dale Johnson was very much considered to be an outsider by the
locals of Logan several years before the fall of 82 Dale Johnson and his wife Sarah left their previous marriages and
together they moved from Zena Ohio to be together and raise Sarah's two daughters
Michelle and anet question for you so you're saying that people from Logan don't like Outsiders right but a lot of
people from Logan drive to Columbus for work right okay uh Dale and Sarah purchased a beautiful 53 Acre Farm
situated on an unpaved Road just about 10 miles from downtown Logan it was known to others in the community that
Dale and Sarah occasionally embraced a clothing optional Lifestyle on their large secluded property free balling
Dale was a country boy and he loved being outdoors so so much so that when the four of them moved to the farm he
his new wife and two stepdaughters they actually lived in tents for a while uh this was to enjoy the land and to hold
them over until their trailer arrived for the property once the trailer arrived they packed up their tents and
moved in they built a barn and used it to house horses and the horses could often be seen running and drinking from
a stream running through the property but there was a nasty rumor going around Logan one that many wished not to
discuss but obviously they did the rumor was that Dale Johnson was molesting his
stepdaughter Annette and it was widely believed that Annette was now staying with her boyfriend and the Schultz
family because the rumored accusation might just be true mhm Monday evening October 14th 19-year-old Todd Schultz
and his 18-year-old girlfriend Annette Cooper left Todd's parents house they didn't tell anyone where they were going
which was a little out of character but what was even more out of character the two usually very reliable young adults
did not return that night to Schultz's home the next morning Tuesday October 5th the two still had not returned and
Todd's mother Sandra had a bad feeling a mother's intuition was telling her something bad had happened and the
feeling was getting worse and stronger as the morning dragged on stressed to her limit she broke down picked up the
phone and called Annette's mother Sarah she wanted to know if Annette and perhaps Todd had gone to Annette's house
the night before or at the very least that morning did they check the tents there there were no tents at this time
oh you don't know that for sure Annette's mother said no she had not seen either of them but she was not
going to let Todd's mom off the hook she wanted to know why Annette was living at
the Schultz House and Sandra responded abruptly and loudly because Dale can't keep his hands off of her and that was
pretty much the end of this conversation neither one of them them happy and both
worried about the young couple shortly after the police and local authorities were notified and soon two they would
join in the search for Todd and Annette days passed and there was still no sign of either of them now no one had seen
them nor had either of them called home or showed up to work or school during this time either family members of the
two found it incredibly strange and disconcerting the couple very rarely went anywhere
most of the time they would just go out for a walk so do you find it odd that Net's parents don't even know why she's
not staying there not necess I mean I I do find it odd but not staying at home is what I mean yeah I do find it a
little odd but not 100% I mean thinking back when I was 18 I didn't you know sometimes I didn't come home for a
couple days I think this is a situation where she probably went over to her boyfriend's house it sounds like they
were very much in love and she stayed the night one night it turned into a couple nights and next thing you know
she's there for weeks or maybe even a month and it sounds to me like her mother didn't want to rock the boat too
much and it wasn't until she believed that something was wrong that her daughter was missing and her boyfriend
was missing as well that she was kind of pushed to her limit and decided hey yeah
but it wasn't like hey I'm just going to stay over at your house cuz I like it here better than mine there was a reason
why they're letting her stay there yeah and obviously Todd's parents or at least
his mother seemed to believe that Annette's stepfather Dale was doing something wrong I mean that was that was
the statement that was made to the newspapers and this was a statement that Sarah Annette's own mother made to the
newspapers she said this is a conversation that me and Todd's mother had uh Sandra was Todd's mother's name
and and this is a conversation that we had and this is how it went down she told the papers that that Sandra said
that Dale can't keep her hands his hands off of Anette right but what's not clear
is did she have a conversation with Annette about that or is this just stemming from the rumors in town that we
don't know you know I mean like well she says she likes it better over here we don't mind her staying here because of
these rumors mhm or did she have a conversation with Anette about this right and I also wonder too like
if if Todd's parents really believed that something terrible was going on that that Annette had was being molested
or whatever right it seems to me like they may have done more than just housed this 18-year-old woman uhhuh that that
maybe that charges maybe you would recommend hey maybe you should press some charges against this guy right I I
don't know you know it was it it wasn't a million years ago but it was a different time back then especially when
you're talking about a town like l 6500 people right uh but here's where things are going to get a little
stranger Captain because on Saturday October 9th this is just about four or five days after the the couple was last
seen Dale Johnson anette's stepfather he shows up uninvited and unannounced at the Schultz House and he's asking a lot
of questions is he wearing clothes uh I believe so okay now besides the expected
questions of have you seen my stepdaughter type things Dale demand that the Schultz family turn over any of
Annette's belongings to him specifically asking for Annette's clothes Sandra Schultz refused and said no now when
asked why he came to the house to collect anette's clothing Dale Johnson yelled at Sandra and said it's because
that's all her mom has to remember her by Sandra was shocked by this statement and she would soon tell police that we
meaning the Schultz family thought that the two teenagers were missing but Dale was acting like they were dead right and
he's talking about them in the past tense she wondered if she wasn't thinking they were dead why was why was
he thinking that they were dead right so not only did the Schultz family think Dale Johnson and possibly his wife Sarah
were acting extremely suspicious but the police thought so too well and that would be your motive for murder or could
be a motive for murder of everybody in the town is suspecting you of molesting your stepdaughter then if you get rid of
her then you can't have those charges brought against you well in all fairness to the Johnson family there was a lot of
suspicious Behavior going around in fact within days of the couple having gone missing the local police department they
were receiving a lot of phone calls most of the callers were simply asking for a
status update on the case things like had the couple been located and if not not did the police have any idea as to
where they could be did the couple run off together or could they have been murdered and if so did the police have
any suspects So In fairness to Dale Johnson people in the town are calling the police in the sheriff's department
and they are asking if law enforcement thinks that the kids could be could have been murdered and if so by whom if they
had any suspect so he and his wife are not the only two that are thinking something bad could have happened to
these missing two now some people called in to say that they saw a couple or saw
the couple at different times on the evening of October 4th the night that it is believed that the two vanished the
different callers had similar statements these were potential eyewitnesses that saw the couple or at least two young
adults matching the couple's description and the couple were in a in the presence
of a man now there's a couple different stories here Captain some of these stories say that they were in the
presence of Dale Johnson some of the other stories say they were in the presence of an unknown man right um
somebody that the the eyewitness didn't know obviously an extensive police search was well underway friends and
teachers of the teens were interviewed several giving disturbing reports about Dale Johnson some of the interviewees
said Dale Johnson was was full of jealousy and possessiveness over Annette and ref what they called Dale's hatred
for Annette's male friends Sarah Johnson also came under suspicion with several reports coming that can only be called
mixed while a lot of these reports are unclear as to the details but State Sarah Johnston was seen with the teens
andette and Todd the night that they went missing police found the behavior of Dale and Sarah Johnson to be
extremely odd most noteworthy the the mothers and the stepfathers behavior in the early interviews when police
believed them both to not only be deceptive but quite unemotional for parents of a missing child right when
providing police with items to assist in the search for the teens Dale and Sarah
surrendered nude photographs of Annette this sent into motion a theory of what happened to the two missing teens I mean
hold on a second let's just slow down a little bit so the police are talking to the missing girl's mother and the
missing girl's stepfather and they say hey do you have any items that would help us in the search and they go here's
some nudie picks yeah so I do I think I should clean this up a bit because I think you should most of the most of the
reports about this case say just simply that that hey they actually a lot of the
reports state that Dale Johnson gave the police nude photographs of his stepdaughter right I think what has
happened this case is extremely interesting to me because there is a lot of local Legend involved in this case
there's a lot of folklore um and I think that what we have is it's like when you go fishing
and you catch a decent sized fish and every time you tell another person about your fishing trip that fish gets a
little bigger and a little bigger and a little bigger I I like to make it smaller because
cuz by the 10th time you tell it it about this big well I forgot to tell you last time I went I caught a
30-footer yeah it's uh it's hanging up on my wall now um I think what has happened here Captain I think that and
this is just my speculation I think that the parents provided police and sheriffs
with items to help find a net and I think that they probably provided them with several photographs and amongst
those photographs there may have been one or two photos of Annette that maybe she wasn't fully dressed I think over
the years the stories have blossomed into this Dale Johnson handed over nude photos of his stepdaughter well and
what's kind of sad about this case is she was a she was a pretty girl and so that's the main focus you know you even
read so earlier is you know she was very pretty and everybody in town thought she
was pretty and then you talk about the boyfriend and it's like well he was really talented and he was smart and
it's like because she was you know a beautiful girl like by default that's all people talk about now so the the two
are missing right and this sets into motion a theory of what happened to the two missing teens police used the
photographs of Annette along with the circulating rumors that Annette's stepfather Dale had molested her and
must have killed her and Todd Schultz in either a jealous Rage or as a means of covering up the
molestations police also theorized that either Sarah anette's mother assisted in
one or all of the following The Disappearance murder and the concealment of their remains or at the very least
knew about it yeah Logan police detective James Thompson is brought in and he begins a crusade against Dale
Johnson believing he is responsible for the teen's disappearance each interview with police reveals more details of what
police refer to as a sexually dysfunctional Johnson household Dale Johnson is Desperately Seeking
supporters so he contacts a friend of his who claims to be a psychic this is Raymond Mills okay Raymond using his
quote unquote gifts believes Dale Johnson is the murderer and he publicly sides with police against Dale Johnson
can you imagine that so so so Dale is he's desperate for he's desperate for somebody to support him
he's like I'm being accused of all this stuff let me reach out to my buddy he can see he's the allseeing ey he's a
psychic and then the psychic comes back and says well my friend what I see is that you killed him I'm telling you man
this is I have to we have to really look at this for what it is especially back in this town you know the old black and
white Frankenstein movie where where Frankenstein's monster is in the village and the town's people are gathering
torches and pickaxes and there's like a mob of people that are going to chase him out of town or or kill him yeah this
this was a similar mentality to these missing teenagers in these rumors that Dale Johnson had molested his
stepdaughter the town's people are all up in arms they want Dale Johnson arrested immediately the Sheriff's
Department is coming after him the detective is building a crusade against him and within his own Four Walls of the
trailer on his 53 acre property he's he's complaining to his wife everybody in town thinks that I molested and
killed these kids and his his wife is going honey I know you didn't do it but you're the stepfather they're going to
come after you right and you walk around in the nude and you you take nudy picks
of your stepdaughter there's rumors happening they're going to come after you what's also going on Captain is the
police Poli Department the Sheriff's Office their telephones are ringing off of the hook with conflicting reports
some stating that they had heard shots fired in the riverbank cornfield area and then listen to this there were
reported sightings of mysterious men who appear out of the Mist in odd-shaped hats and that the these things just
appear out of nowhere like some time traveling and hipsters there were dozens of weird things going on and we'll get
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[Music] that all right we're back cheers mates cheers so we have two teenagers a couple
that are missing well on Friday October 14th everyone's worst fears were realized two torsos were found floating
in the Hawking River Police later located a spot from where they believed the two torsos were placed in the River
Sheriff James Jones said a path LED from that spot in the river to a makeshift burial ground following this path this
led to the discovery of six bloody holes in the cornfield buried just a few inches down were the limbs and two heads
the heads and limbs were actually located about 2 days after they found the torsos police theorized that the
blood found near some of the holes indicated that the victims may have been slain and dismembered right there and
what's confusing about this report is it says buried at one point then it says six bloody holes so when I think six
bloody holes I'm thinking these holes were dug and then body parts were put into these holes but they were never
filled back in I think they probably were I mean all reports state that these these Limbs and heads were found buried
just a few inches into the ground um so I I do believe that they were buried I think that this is just a reporter
making a description um and you have to keep in mind too we're talking about this is not
right off the roadside this is out in the middle of nowhere there's a very good chance that the the description
given by the newspaper reporter on October 14th or 15th of 1981 never saw that that ground or that area before
writing up the article now as I was saying police theorized that the blood found near some of the quote unquote
holes indicated that the victims may have been slain and dismembered right there then the torsos later dragged to
the river officials found no weapons or digging implements in the cornfield the only clothing found was a pair of socks
that authorities could not link to either victim the bloody pieces facilitated positive identification of
two nude human torsos removed from the Hawking River now this means that the the limbs and the head match that of the
two torsos that they found right and they recovered the bodies of 19-year-old Todd Schultz and 18-year-old Annette
Cooper Logan residents stunned by the gruesome deaths talked in small groups near the river uh after the discovery
and one resident actually told a reporter that quote there's never been anything as grotesque as this yeah what
do you think that all means I mean you're going to you're going to bury limbs but that you're going to have the
torsos go to the river do you think that's a symbol of something I don't know and I can only imagine what the
rumors would be or what kind of stories so people have to try to make sense of this right right this has never happened
in in this area before um and so that's why these small groups of people are meeting near this area they want to see
what's coming out of there what police and what uh people are pulling out of there but they're they're also going to
theorize and come up with their own theories as to why do we find dismember torsos in the river and then we found
some parts buried elsewhere yeah it almost seems like a symbol of something from the killer perspective it could be
um I think it probably looks that way to the citizens of Logan however from the killer perspective to me it looks more
like just trying to conceal the the bodies themselves I mean we're talking 1982 um I don't know when the first
murder conviction without a body being recovered occurred in this state or in the country
but at one point if you didn't have a body there was no there was no murder there was no murder trial right but have
the limbs cuz they're burying the limbs so if you found the limbs well yeah but I mean it's obviously trying to conceal
all pieces and parts of these individuals now the Logan residents they also said to the newspapers that the
bodies were just too well hid this is a quote the bodies were just too well hid it must be somebody local I think that's
very telling of where they found these torsos an autopsy was performed Med on the torsos in Franklin County the other
body parts were sent to the coroner's office for examination hockey counting coroner Dr Robert
Rous said that the two were shot to death and he was quote not at Liberty to divulge further details about the
shootings Logan Police said they are working the case the schultes asked the police to release whatever information
they can about the slangs saying quote we feel people should know what really happened so parents can watch out for
their children right said Mrs Schultz and we don't want somebody else to go through what we've had to go through um
a positive identification is made using dental records of both of these individuals with FBI ballistics expert
claiming 22 caliber bullets killed the victims an alleged bootprint is discovered in shallow water near the
riverbank and the the county is on high alert with a mandatory 900 p.m. curfew on the day when the limbs were
found a police officer guarding and securing the location he sees a man lurking in the cornstalks this turns out
to be Kenny Linscott he's a local man 22 years old and he's nursing a badly cut arm now this is not a fresh cut police
questioned this man right there in the cornfield Kenny Lin Scott lived nearby and was known to police as a smalltime
drug dealer he is referred to as a local River Rat someone that is always fishing
in the river and hunting in the nearby Fields Police of course want to know what he's doing in the cornfield near
the crime scene but he simply is out hunting and had seen all of the police in the area wanted to know if they were
looking for the missing teens there and if they found anything regard guarding Kenny's arm he had cut it on a broken
window and received medical attention at a hospital shortly afterward after the heinous fine of the body parts news
crews swarmed the religiously tight-knit community and the story is broadcasted nationally and the county is now on high
alert searching the crime scene continues in additional interviews with the victim's parents are taking place as
said they had used dental records to positively the bodies after positive identifications are made this sets Don
Schultz Todd's father into a frenzy he is convinced as many others are in Logan that Dale Johnson killed his son so don
Schultz gets his rifle jumps in his truck and drives out to the Johnson property going to go get my gun that's
right there with gun in hand he demands that Dale turn himself in and confess to
the double homicide now let's go through this double m murder investigation because most of the reports out there
that still exist they don't tell you what was going on as far as the investigation goes most reports don't
tell you the true story of the investigation now Captain I don't want to go through everything in great detail
because we would end up doing Eight Episodes on this case but what I will tell you is this anyone that followed
this case uhhuh back in 1982 will agree with me the investigation and the events
that took place in Logan after they found the bodies well to be quite Frank it was a damn circus down there yeah
well when you have a victim's father going off to another victim's stepfather and saying turn yourself in you know by
gunpoint that's pretty pretty nuts already and despite the police already stating that they think the missing
teens were killed in the cornfield where the body parts were found right they also have another theory one that the
officers in charge believed very strongly and that is Dale had shot and killed the teens at his farm butchered
them bagged their bodies threw their torsos in the river and buried the rest of the remains in the cornfield and as
the motive is Johnson had sexually molested his step-daughter and was jealous about her impending marriage so
please have this Theory but is there a crime scene at the stepfather's house not that we're aware of and it's it's
one of those weird situations where you have you have investigators that are publicly
stating two opposing theories you know they publicly state that hey there's enough blood in the cornfield that we
believe that these victims were killed here and dismembered here but the working theory that we're we're rolling
with that we're investigating is Dale Johnson killed them at his farm butchered them at his farm bagged the
bodies and brought them to this area right even though we don't have evidence of that yet correct well under
questioning Dale and his wife Sarah and Sarah's other daughter Michelle they denied all of the accusations and what I
mean by that is they denied any knowledge about The Disappearance the murders the dismembering the burial uh
and the molestation right you know so we have Dale of course we're going to have
Dale saying yes I didn't molest my stepdaughter but we also have his wife and the stepdaughter's biological sister
real sister stating that stuff was not going on I know it's rumored but that was not happening here and then there
was Kevin Meyer so detective Robert Snider from Columbus Ohio Police Department's organized crime Squad he
becomes unofficially involved in the case believing that Kevin Meyer is the killer this is 26-year-old Kevin Meyer a
strange individual by all reports I could find and a butcher by trade with mental problems is reported by by his
employers Jill and Dan Fry so the dude with mental problems has the job of handling the sharp knives yeah so Jill
and Dan Fry become involved with this investigation when they report they report that they believe that their
employee was involved in this and then we have a local woman who wished to stay Anonymous and using the Alias Jane Doe
gives a detailed account of seeing the victims talking with a peculiar look older man fitting the description of
Kevin Meyer the this is on the evening when the two teens went missing we do have to point out though Captain Sheriff
Jones who is running the show down there he is friends with Kevin Meer and defends his friend
publicly now one of the more bizarre theories demonologist Jeff Hilson becomes involved in the case by giving
his theory to the media in which he stated that he believes that a group of drug using Satanist butchered the young
couple mhm FBI agent Herman Henry is brought in and gives a psychological profile of the killer this profile does
not steer them away from anyone already mentioned right Sheriff Jones continues to publicly defend his friend Kevin
Meyer and by now has become uncooperative with the FBI and detective Snyder from Columbus do we know anything
about about this profile like what it entails I do not I did not could not find the details of it other than it
stated just what what we had said all the persons named publicly or named to the media as potential suspects whether
they were suspects of the actual investigation or just by the people of Logan it didn't rule any of them out
right we what we have here though Captain is we got Sheriff Jones we we have the FBI we have detective Snider we
have several different agencies working this investigation as said Sheriff Jones
is running the show but plain and simple what we have right now is we have three
different agencies and all of them are not agreeing on a prime suspect you know Sheriff Jones thinks Dale Johnson did it
agent Henry thinks Johnson is not the guy and detective Snider believes that the sheriff's friend Kevin Meyer is the
Killer and Kevin's employers continue to report him to police revealing more bizarre reasons why he is the killer
they haven't fired him yet yeah it's a little strange that they would I don't know that they are publicly stating that
Kevin Meyer that they believe him to be the killer right or if they're just calling the cops behind the scenes well
they've they've at least reported this to the Columbus PD which now keep in mind is almost an hour's drive away the
reason how this comes about is that the the the lady um that is the employer of Kevin Meyer I think her brother-in-law
she's somehow related to this detective that she says hey I think this weird guy
that works for me who also happens to be a butcher is the killer well and because
she's not publicly stating this stuff we don't know actually what this weird stuff this weird guy is doing we have to
really understand and focus on what's going on in this area at this time this is a media circus down there okay we
have a town of only 6500 people and after the bodies are found chopped up which there's really no nice way to put
it I apologize but that's the case right but then some could argue well Kevin has
the means to chop them up I mean just based off of his his job yeah but what what where I'm going with this is that
it's a media circus down there this is like the Casey Anthony Scott Peterson situation where we have everybody
looking for a killer and all this media comes to town and probably not as much media but it's also a much smaller town
than where Casey Anthony was from or or Scott Pearson was from but what you obviously have is everybody wanting to
become involved in this case somehow there's a giant Spotlight on the small town of Logan Ohio and a lot of people
want to push their way to the Forefront and be in that Spotlight and so everyone
somehow feels connected to the case and they feel like they have an opinion and something to say regarding the case well
and there's definitely some suspicious stuff with the stepfather I mean talking about his stepdaughter in past tense
that's a little odd uh you know the rumors around town we don't know if those are true or not but those are
those are some damning rumors if you're molesting your stepdaughter well and I think that's exactly what you have here
okay we've seen this the thing that is so interesting and intriguing about this real life case is that so many times on
television and in movies this situation is uh imitated and what I mean by that is think about this we have the local
guy the sheriff Jones he knows the area he's the man in charge he's been enforcing the law in Logan for a long
time I am the law and of course who does he think killed this couple it's it involves local rumors M it involves a
guy that lives there that was under his watch that he says you know what I've heard all the rumors about this guy I
believe them to be true he's an outsider that came in here and he's not only an outsider by by moving and transplanting
into Logan he's an outsider in the sense that guy walks around with his clothes off I don't get him I don't understand
him he's a weird o so he is a suspect under the local sheriff's eyes and then you have the FBI agent agent Henry comes
into town and he says you know what I'm not going to get consumed by local rumor
right I'm I'm I'm of a better class of law enforcement in the sense I'm from the FBI I'm the better law well I'm
going to come into the area and I'm going to use my experience to actually hone in on a real suspect I'm not going
to allow local rumor to point me in the direction I'm going to use the facts and
the evidence of the case and really we don't have a ton of evidence I mean we have possibly these socks that are left
by the crime scene where they think the crime scene could have happened the cornfield and then we have this boot mhm
or was it a bootprint okay yeah so I mean that's pretty much all they got going for him right now there's not a
lot of evidence and there's a lot of speculation and what I mean by that is not just by FBI or law enforcement it's
by the locals and the locals are not only telling the media about who they think did this they're calling the
police department and the sheriff's department I mean can you imagine the phone calls that they're getting right
we have a demon quote unquote demonologist that comes to the area and says look here's what actually happened
a a group of drug induced Satanist killed and butchered these kids right but there is no evidence other than
possibly the mutilation that would lead this for anybody to believe that this is a Satanic ritual or
some type of thing maybe the six holes 666 maybe that would be some sign well I think that what we have here is really
the mutilation to the bodies the dismemberment is something that is so foreign to this area you know there are
unfortunately there's a lot of murders out there maybe we should start po most of the time the person that kills the
victim doesn't go to the length of of cutting them up into small pieces MH and that is horrifying that that is
something that is does not sit well with with any of us right we don't we most of
us can't comprehend how somebody could dissect somebody like that and so therefore I think that you try to make
sense out of it the community as a whole tries to make sense out of it and that's
when you have people coming forward and saying well listen to what the kids are listening to these days it's got you
know listen to the music that's out these days all these kids are doing drugs these days it's got to be a bunch
of Satanist it's the only thing that makes sense to some of the people in the community and so where we have no
evidence that there is any type of uh to use a term from the me West Memphis 3 uh
satanic trappings what did they call that the um uh satanic droppings they called it something like
that the trappings of a ritualistic killing the droppings or sacrificial killing but where we don't have any true
evidence of that you can have people coming out of the woodwork that are going like you just said was there six
holes well that must mean 666 right well was the was the hand separated from the
forearm well that must have mean that must mean something and anytime you uh decapitate somebody that means that's a
satanic trapping and where we have no real evidence of that we also don't have any real
evidence that Dale Johnston killed these kids other than rumors really is the satanic crap anything more than a rumor
no And as far as his his family States as far as Dale Johnson's wife and other step daughter State all of the rumors of
him molesting the murdered victim Annette are nothing more than rumors just like
the satanic Panic going on is nothing more than a rumor there's no evidence there's nobody stating that they had
witnessed that happen and so the problem with this double homicide here I don't know I don't know that I would claim
this to be that we have a bunch of Keystone Cops that don't know what they're doing I I don't think that's the
situation here yes is murder a rarity there yes is the dismemberment of the bodies super rare 100% you have the
towns people saying we've never seen anything like this before never even heard of anything like this before but
at the same time I think really what is happening here in this very moment is that they are getting so many
people coming forward stating so many different things from different ends of the spectrum of what could be a possible
good lead to something that might just be crazy talk they have people coming to the police department the sheriff's
department stating I saw some guys that just seem to appear out of nowhere yeah with weird hats they're wearing funny
hats I think they were in the cornfield and they must have killed those kids cuz
I've never seen them before and maybe they were demons maybe they were ghosts I don't know but that's the kind of
calls that they're getting right and where I think that this thing goes goes off the rails a bit and and I say that
and I laugh to myself because it's very obviously already off the rails right and plus you find yourself hilarious but
I think that there was probably some truth in some of those earlier statements given to police and some of
those earlier calls that were fed in as possible leads some of them were truthful and some of them were just
wrong and the problem I think we had here is who knows which lead to follow when you receive a a ton of them some of
them are completely crazy some of them are complet maybe completely right but on the surface until you investigate
until you look at each one of those you can't tell which is [Music] which a lot more to get into tomorrow if you
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Back in 1982 murders in a small town in Ohio rocked a community to it’s core. Rumors in town swirled and circled around one suspect in particular. But most feared the worst. Some said a group of drug addicted satanists were sacrificing the lives of the town’s youth. Others believed a deranged psycho was just starting to spill blood in their town. Either way, the local law enforcement, the FBI and outside agencies could not agree on a prime suspect. This week we visit a small town that was visited by murder. Beer of the Week - Brick Kiln Bourbon Barrel Aged by Jackie O’sGarage Grade - 5 out of 5 Bottle

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the 1982 murders of Todd Schultz and Annette Cooper in Logan, Ohio, and the ensuing investigation chaos.

Key points

The Murders That Terrified Logan. In October 1982, the small town of Logan, Ohio, was shaken by the disappearance of a young couple, leading to panic and suspicion.
Suspicious Behavior of the Johnsons. Dale Johnson's actions raised eyebrows as he demanded Annette's belongings, acting as if she were already dead.
The Role of the Community. The small-town dynamics played a crucial role in the investigation, with locals sharing their suspicions about the Johnson family.
Gruesome Discovery. Two torsos found in the Hawking River lead to a shocking investigation.
Community in Shock. Residents react to the brutal murders of two teenagers, sparking fear and speculation.
Local Suspect Emerges. Kenny Linscott, a local man, becomes a person of interest after being found near the crime scene.

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Evil can lurk anywhere, even in the most beautiful of living spaces.

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