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Logan just about 50 miles away from Columbus the heart of Ohio back in 1982 Logan's population was just
a touch over 6500 salt of the earth people carving out an existence in Southeastern Ohio
Logan is arguably one of the most beautiful areas in Ohio Ash Cave Cedar Falls and of course the
Hocking Hills State Park these are gorgeous sceneries and landscapes but as we all know evil can lurk
anywhere even in the most beautiful of Living Spaces evil can be waiting for you in the caves
we're stalking you on the Hills and often evil is even closer to home than any of us would dare to believe
there was much excitement for the people of Logan back in the fall of 82 on October 2nd Logan hosted their annual
Fall Festival of bands a gathering of some of Ohio's best high school marching bands
and later that month trick-or-treat Beggar's Night and Halloween Greg Schultz described the time saying
when I grew up we had the run of the town because it was a small town we take off in the morning be gone all day and
come back home at night when the street lights came on you went home everyone kept an eye on us
the Youth of 1982 Logan Ohio shared the same sentiment they had never heard of horrific murders before other than from
the fictional slasher films of their day but that all changed in early October when the deranged killers from the movie
seemingly jumped off of the movie theater screens and into the hills of Logan causing the public to panic and wonder
were the murders of a smart well-liked young couple an isolated incident or was it a sign of what was to come
this week we discussed the murders that terrified a community and left more victims than we will ever know
foreign [Music] [Music] Cooper later in life she would go by the beautiful name of Annette Annette was
born June 11 1964 in Xena Ohio and that was a pretty blonde many referred to her
as a local Beauty others said she had a bit of a troubled past After High School
she was off to Hawking College an 18 year old student full of life and dreams and as of October 1982 Annette was in a
year-long relationship with 19 year old Todd Schultz Todd from Nelsonville Ohio he was born just less than a year before
Annette and their relationship was pretty serious what started off as a courtship based off of mostly physical
attraction had blossomed into a possible wedding engagement Todd's mother said the two had not made it official but
they were certainly talking about it now Todd was a good kid with a great sense of humor and everybody said that he
loved children After High School he went to vocational school and studied graphic
design it was well known that Todd was quite the photographer he hoped to find a career where he could get into
something where he could take pictures and write articles Todd was 19 years old and a volunteer
firefighter they're a typical teenage couple from a typical small town now leading up to October 1982 Annette was
living with Todd and his family at Todd's parents house she shared a room with Todd's sister Kendra and that came
from what some if not most locals referred to as a strange family Annette's family was for the most part
considered to be Outsiders to the people in the community of Logan and anyone from Logan will tell you that
still to this very day that most people born and raised in Logan don't much care
for transplants or Outsiders that Schultz her stepfather Dale Johnson was very much considered to be an
outsider by the locals of Logan several years before the fall of 82 Dale Johnson and his wife Sarah left their
previous marriages and together they moved from Xena Ohio to be together and raise Sarah's two daughters Michelle and
Annette question for you so you're saying that people from Logan don't like Outsiders right but a lot of people from
Logan drive to Columbus for work right okay uh Dale and Sarah purchased a beautiful 53-acre Farm situated on an
unpaved Road just about 10 miles from downtown Logan it was known to others in the community that Dale and Sarah
occasionally embraced a clothing optional Lifestyle on their large secluded property free Ballin Dale was a
country boy and he loved being outdoors so so much so that when the four of them
moved to the farm he his new wife and two stepdaughters they actually lived in tents for a while this was to enjoy the
land and to hold them over until their trailer arrived for the property once the trailer arrived they packed up their
tents and moved in they built a barn and used it to house horses and the horses could often be seen running and drinking
from a stream running through the property but there was a nasty rumor going around
Logan one that many wished not to discuss but obviously they did the rumor was that Dale Johnson was molesting his
stepdaughter Annette and it was widely believed that Annette was now staying with her boyfriend and
the Schultz family because the rumored accusation might just be true Monday evening October 14th 19 year old Todd
Schultz and his 18 year old girlfriend Annette Cooper left Todd's parents house they didn't tell anyone where they were
going which was a little out of character but what was even more out of character the two usually very reliable
young adults did not return that night to Schultz's home the next morning Tuesday October 5th the
two still had not returned and Todd's mother Sandra had a bad feeling a mother's intuition was telling her
something bad had happened and the feeling was getting worse and stronger as the morning dragged on
stressed to her limit she broke down picked up the phone and called Annette's mother Sarah
she wanted to know if Annette and perhaps Todd had gone to Annette's house the night before or at the very least
that morning did they check the tents there were no tents at this time oh you don't know that for sure Annette's
mother said no she had not seen either of them but she was not going to let Todd's mom off the hook she wanted to
know why Annette was living at the Schultz House and Sandra responded abruptly and loudly because Dale can't
keep his hands off of her and that was pretty much the end of this conversation neither one of them happy and both
worried about the young couple shortly after the police and local authorities were notified and soon two they would
join in the search for Todd and Annette days passed and there was still no sign of either of them
now no one had seen them nor had either of them called home or showed up to work
or school during this time either family members of the two found it incredibly strange and disconcerting
the couple very rarely went anywhere most of the time they would just go out for a walk so do you find it odd that
Annette's parents don't even know why she's not staying there not neces I mean I do find it odd but not at home is what
I mean yeah I do find it a little odd but not 100 percent I mean thinking back when I was 18 I didn't you know
sometimes I didn't come home for a couple of days I think this is a situation where she probably went over
to her boyfriend's house it sounds like they were very much in love and she stayed the night one night it turned
into a couple nights and next thing you know she's there for weeks or maybe even
a month and it sounds to me like her mother didn't want to rock the boat too much and it wasn't until she believed
that something was wrong that her daughter was missing and her boyfriend was missing as well that she was kind of
pushed to her limit and decided hey yeah but it wasn't like hey I'm just gonna stay over at your house because I like
it you're better than mine there was a reason why they are letting her stay there yeah and obviously Todd's parents
or at least his mother seemed to believe that Annette's stepfather Dale was doing
something wrong I mean that was that was the statement that was made to the newspapers and this was a statement that
Sarah Annette's own mother made to the newspapers she said this is a conversation that me and Todd's mother
had uh Sandra was Todd's mother's name and this is a conversation that we had and this is how it went down she told
the papers that that Sandra said that Dale can't keep her hands his hands off of Annette right but what's not clear is
did she have a conversation with Annette about that or is this just I mean from the rumors in town that we don't know I
mean like well she says she likes it better over here we don't mind her staying here because of these rumors or
did she have a conversation with Annette about this right and I also wonder too like
if if Todd's parents really believed that something terrible was going on that Annette had was being molested or
whatever right it seems to me like they may have done more than just housed this
18 year old woman that that maybe that charges maybe you would recommend hey maybe you should press some charges
against this guy right I I don't know you know it was it wasn't a million years ago but it was a different time
back then especially when you're talking about a town like Logan 6 500 people right uh but here's where things are
going to get a little stranger Captain because on Saturday October 9th this is just about four or five days after the
the couple was last seen Dale Johnson and that stepfather he shows up uninvited and unannounced at the Schultz
House and he's asking a lot of questions is he wearing clothes uh I believe so okay now besides the expected questions
of have you seen my stepdaughter type things Dale demanded that the shoulder family turn over any of Annette's
belongings to him specifically asking for Annette's clothes Sandra Schultz refused and said no now
when asked why he came to the house to collect Annette's clothing Dale Johnson yelled at Sandra and said it's because
that's all her mom has to remember her by Sandra was shocked by this statement and
she would soon tell police that we meaning the Schultz family thought that the two teenagers were missing but Dale
was acting like they were dead right and he's talking about them in the past tense
she wondered if she wasn't thinking they were dead why was why was he thinking that they were dead right so not only
did the Schultz family think Dale Johnson and possibly his wife Sarah were acting extremely suspicious but the
police thought so too well and that would be your motive for murder or could be a motive for murder of everybody in
the town is suspecting you of molesting your stepdaughter then if you get rid of
her then you can't have those charges brought against you well in all fairness to the Johnson family
there was a lot of suspicious Behavior going around in fact within days of the couple having gone missing the local
police department they were receiving a lot of phone calls most of the callers were simply asking for a status update
on the case things like had the couple been located and if not did the police have any idea as to where they could be
did the couple run off together or could they have been murdered and if so did the police have any suspects So In
fairness to Dale Johnson people in the town are calling the police in the sheriff's department and they are asking
if law enforcement thinks that the kids could be could have been murdered and if
so by whom if they had any suspects so he and his wife are not the only two that are thinking something bad could
have happened to these missing two now some people called in to say that they saw a couple or saw the couple at
different times on the evening of October 4th the night that it is believed that the two vanished the
different and callers had similar statements these were potential eyewitnesses that saw the couple or at
least two young adults matching the couple's description and the couple were in a PR in the presence of a man
now there's a couple different stories here Captain some of these stories say that they were in the presence of Dale
Johnson some of the other stories say they were in the presence of an unknown man right um somebody that the the
eyewitness didn't know obviously an extensive police search was well underway friends and teachers of the
teens were interviewed several giving disturbing reports about Dale Johnston some of the interviewees said Dale
Johnson was a was full of jealousy and possessiveness over a net and referenced what they called Dale's hatred for
Annette's male friends Sarah Johnson also came under suspicion with several reports coming that can only be called
mixed while a lot of these reports are unclear as to the details but State Sarah Johnston was seen with the teens
Annette and Todd the night that they went missing police found the behavior of Dale and
Sarah Johnson to be extremely odd most noteworthy the mothers and the stepfather's behavior in the early
interviews when police believed them both to not only be deceptive but quite unemotional for parents of a missing
child right when providing police with items to assist in the search for the teens Dale and Sarah surrendered nude
photographs of Annette this sent into motion a theory of what happened to the two missing teens I mean hold on a
second slow down a little bit so the police are talking to the missing girl's mother and the missing girl's
stepfather and they say hey do you have any items that would help us in the search and they go here's some nudie
pics yeah so I I do I think I should clean this up a bit because we think you should most of the most of the reports
about this case say just simply that that hey they actually a lot of the reports state that Dale Johnston gave
the police nude photographs of his stepdaughter right I think what has happened this
case is extremely interesting to me because there is a lot of local Legend involved in this case there's a lot of
folklore and I think that what we have is it's like when you go fishing and you catch a decent sized fish and every time
you tell another person about your fishing trip that fish gets a little bigger and a little bigger and a little
bigger I like to make it smaller because because by the tenth time you tell it it's about this big well I forgot to
tell you last time I went I caught a 30-footer yeah it's uh it's hanging up on my wall now
um I think what has happened here Captain I think that and this is just my speculation
I think that the parents provided police and sheriffs with items to help find a net and I think that they probably
provided them with several photographs and amongst those photographs there may have been one or two photos of a net
that maybe she wasn't fully dressed I think over the years the stories have blossomed into this Dale Johnson handed
over nude photos of his stepdaughter well and what's kind of sad about this case is she was a she was a pretty girl
and so that's the main focus you know you even read so earlier is you know she was very pretty and everybody in town
thought she was pretty and then you talk about the boyfriend and it's like well he was really talented and he was smart
and it's like because she was you know a beautiful girl like by default that's all people talk about now so the the two
are missing right and this sets into motion a theory of what happened to the two missing teens police used the
photographs of a net along with the circulating rumors that Annette's stepfather Dale had molested her
and must have killed her and Todd Schultz in either a jealous Rage or as a means of covering up the molestations
police also theorized that either Sarah Annette's mother assisted in one or all of the following The Disappearance
murder and the concealment of their remains or at the very least knew about it yeah Logan police detective James
Thompson is brought in and he begins a crusade against Dale Johnson believing he is responsible for the teen's
disappearance each interview with police reveals more details of what police refer to as a sexually dysfunctional
Johnson household Dale Johnson is Desperately Seeking supporters so he contacts a friend of
his who claims to be a psychic this is Raymond Mills okay Raymond using his quote-unquote gifts believes Dale
Johnson is the murderer and he publicly sides with police against Dale Johnson can you imagine that
so so so Dale is he's desperate for he's desperate for somebody to support him he's like I'm being accused of all this
stuff let me reach out to my buddy he can see he's the All-Seeing Eye he's a psychic
and then the psychic comes back and says well my friend but what I see is that you killed him
I'm telling you man this is I have to we have to really look at this for what it
is especially back then in this town you know the old black and white Frankenstein movie where where
Frankenstein's monster is in the village in the towns people are gathering torches and pickaxes yeah and there's
like a mob of people that are going to chase him out of town or kill him right yeah this this was a similar mentality
to these missing teenagers in these rumors that Dale Johnson had molested his stepdaughter the townspeople are all
up in arms they want Dale Johnson arrested immediately the Sheriff's Department's coming after him the
detective is building a crusade against him and within his own Four Walls of the
trailer on his 53-acre property he's he's complaining to his wife everybody in town thinks that I molested and
killed these kids yeah and his his wife is going honey I know you didn't do it but you're the stepfather they're going
to come after you right and you walk around in the nude and you take nudie pics of your stepdaughter there's rumors
happening they're going to come after you but what's also going on Captain is the police department the Sheriff's
Office their telephones are ringing off of the hook with conflicting reports some stating that they had heard shots
fired in the riverbank cornfield area and then listen to this there were reported sightings of mysterious men who
appear out of the Mist in odd-shaped hats and the these things just appear out of
nowhere like some time traveling hipsters there were dozens of weird things going on and
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[Music] foreign we're back cheers mates cheers so we have two teenagers a couple that are
missing well on Friday October 14th everyone's worst fears were realized two torsos were found floating in the
Hocking River Police later located a spot from where they believed the two torsos were placed in the river
Sheriff James Jones set a path LED from that spot in the river to a makeshift burial ground
following this path this led to the discovery of six bloody holes in the cornfield
buried just a few inches down where the limbs and two heads the heads and limbs were actually
located about two days after they found the torsos police theorized that the blood found
near some of the holes indicated that the victims may have been slain and dismembered right there and what's
confusing about this report is it says buried at one point then it says six bloody holes so when I think six bloody
Halls I'm thinking these holes were dug and then body parts were put into these holes but they were never filled back in
I think they probably were I mean all reports state that these these Limbs and heads were found buried just a few
inches into the ground um so I do believe that they were buried I think that this is just a reporter
making a description um and you have to keep in mind too we're talking about this is not right
off the roadside this is out in the middle of nowhere right there's a very good chance that the the description
given by the newspaper reporter on October 14th or 15th of 1981 never saw that that ground or that area before
writing up the article now as I was saying police theorize that the blood found near some of the quote-unquote
holes indicated that the victims may have been slain and dismembered right there then the torsos later dragged to
the river officials found no weapons or digging implements in the cornfield the only clothing found was a pair of socks
that authorities could not link to either victim the bloody pieces facilitated positive
identification of two nude human torsos removed from the Hocking River now this means that the the limbs in the head
match that of the two torsos that they found right and they recovered the bodies of 19 year old Todd Schultz an 18
year old Annette Cooper Logan residents stunned by the gruesome deaths talked in
small groups near the river uh after the discovery and one resident actually told
a reporter that quote there's never been anything as grotesque as this yeah what
do you think that all means I mean you're gonna you're gonna bury limbs but that you're going to have the torsos
going to the river do you think that's a symbol of something I don't know and I can only imagine what the rumors would
be or what kind of stories so people have to try to make sense of this right this has never happened in in this area
before um and so that's why these small groups of people are meeting near this area
they want to see what's coming out of there what police and what uh people were pulling out of there but they're
they're also going to theorize and come up with their own theories as to why do we find dismembered torsos in the river
and then we found some parts buried elsewhere yeah it almost seems like a symbol of something from the Killer's
perspective it could be um I think it probably looks that way to the citizens of Logan however from the
Killer's perspective to me it looks more like just trying to conceal the the bodies themselves I mean we're talking
1982. um I don't know when the fur first murder conviction without a body being recovered occurred
in this state or in the country but at one point if you didn't have a body there was no there was no murder there
was no murder trial right but you'd have the limbs because they're burying the limbs so if you found the limbs well
yeah but I mean it's obviously trying to conceal all pieces and parts of these individuals
now the Logan residents they also said to the newspapers that the bodies were just too well hid this is a quote the
bodies were just too well hid it must be somebody local I think that's very telling of where they found these torsos
and autopsy was performed on the torsos in Franklin County the other body parts were sent to the coroner's office for
examination hockey counting Corridor Dr Robert Rausch said that the two were shot to death and
he was quote not at Liberty to divulge further details about the shootings Logan Police said they are working the
case the Schultz's asked the police to release whatever information they can about the slangs saying quote we feel
people should know what really happened so parents can watch out for their children right said Mrs Schultz and we
don't want somebody else to go through what we've had to go through a positive identification is made using dental
records of both of these individuals with FBI ballistics expert claiming 22 caliber bullets killed the victims an
alleged boot print is discovered in shallow water near the riverbank and the county is on high alert with a mandatory
9 pm curfew on the day when the limbs were found a police officer guarding and securing the
location he sees a man lurking in the corn stalks this turns out to be Kenny Linscott he's a local man 22 years old
and he's nursing a badly cut arm now this is not a fresh cut police questioned this man right there in the
cornfield Kenny Lynn Scott lived nearby and was known to police as a small-time drug dealer he is referred to as a local
River Rat someone that is always fishing in the river and hunting in the nearby Fields Police of course want to know
what he's doing in the cornfield near the crime scene but he simply is out hunting and had seen all of the police
in the area and wanted to know if they were looking for the missing teens there and if they found anything
regarding Kenny's arm he had cut it on a broken window and received medical attention at a hospital shortly
afterward after the heinous fine of the body parts news crews swarmed the religiously
tight-knit community and the story is broadcasted nationally and the county is now on high alert searching the crime
scene continues and additional interviews with the victim's parents are taking place as said they had used
dental records to positively ID the bodies after positive identifications are made this sets Don Schultz Todd's
father into a frenzy he is convinced as many others are in Logan that Dale Johnson killed his son so don Schultz
gets his rifle jumps in his truck and drives out to the Johnson property again that's right there with gun in
hand he demands that Dale turn himself in and confess to the double homicide now let's go through this double murder
investigation because most of the reports out there that still exist they don't tell you what was going on as far
as the investigation goes most reports don't tell you the true story of the investigation now Captain I don't want
to go through everything in great detail because we would end up doing Eight Episodes on this case but what I will
tell you is this anyone that followed this case back in 1982 will agree with me the
investigation and the events that took place in Logan after they found the bodies well to be quite Frank it was a
damn circus down there so well when you have a victim's father going off to another victim's stepfather and saying
turn yourself in you know by gunpoint that's pretty pretty nuts already and despite the police already stating that
they think the missing teens were killed in the cornfield where the body parts were found right they also have another
theory one that the officers in charge believed very strongly and that is Dale had shot and killed the teens at his
farm butchered them bagged their bodies threw their torsos in the river and buried the rest of the remains in the
cornfield and as the motive is Johnson had sexually molested his stepdaughter and
was jealous about her impending marriage so please have this Theory but is there
a crime scene at the stepfather's house not that we're aware of and it's it's one of those weird situations where you
have you have investigators that are publicly stating two opposing theories you know
they publicly state that hey there's enough blood in the cornfield that we believe that these victims were killed
here and dismembered here but the working theory that we're we're rolling with that we're investigating is Dale
Johnson killed them at his farm butchered him at his farm bagged the bodies and brought them to this area
right even though we don't have evidence of that yet correct well under questioning Dale and his wife Sarah and
Sarah's other daughter Michelle they denied all of the accusations and what I mean by that is they denied any
knowledge about The Disappearance the murders the dismembering the burial and the molestation right you know so we
have Dale of course we're going to have Dale saying yes I didn't molest my stepdaughter but we also have his wife
and the stepdaughter's biological sister real sister stating that stuff was not going on I know it's rumored but that
was not happening here and then there was Kevin Meyer so detective Robert Snyder from Columbus Ohio Police
Department's organized crime Squad he becomes unofficially involved in the case believing that Kevin Meyer is the
Killer this is 26 year old Kevin Meyer a strange individual by all reports I could find and a butcher by trade with
mental problems is reported by his employers Jill and Dan Frey so the dude with mental problems has the job of
handling the sharp knives yeah so Jill and Dan Frey become involved with this investigation
when they report they report that they believe that their employee was involved in this and then we have a
local woman who wished to stay Anonymous and using the Alias Jane Doe gives a detailed account of seeing the victims
talking with a peculiar looking older man fitting the description of Kevin Meyer this is on the evening when the
two teens went missing we do have to point out though Captain Sheriff Jones who is running the show
down there he is friends with Kevin Meyer and defends his friend publicly now one of the more bizarre theories
demonologist Jeff Hilson becomes involved in the case by giving his theory to the media in which he stated
that he believes that a group of drug using satanists butchered the young couple
FBI agent Herman Henry is brought in and gives a psychological profile of the Killer this profile does not steer them
away from anyone already mentioned right Sheriff Jones continues to publicly defend his friend Kevin Meyer and by now
has become uncooperative with the FBI and detective Snyder from Columbus do we know anything about this profile like
what it entails I do not I did not could not find the details of it other than it
stated just what what we had said right all the persons named publicly or named to the
media as potential suspects whether they were suspects of the actual investigation or just by the people of
Logan it didn't rule any of them out right we what we have here though Captain is we
got Sheriff Jones we have the FBI we have detective Snyder we have several different agencies working this
investigation as said Sheriff Jones is running the show but plain and simple what we have right now is we have three
different agencies and all of them are not agreeing on a prime suspect you know Sheriff Jones thinks Dale Johnston did
it agent Henry thinks Johnston is not the guy and detective Snyder believes that the sheriff's friend Kevin Meyer is
the Killer and Kevin's employers continue to report him to police revealing more bizarre reasons why he is
the killer they haven't fired him yet yeah it's a little strange that they would I don't know that they are
publicly stating that Kevin Meyer that they believe him to be the killer right or if they're just calling the cops
behind the scenes well they've they've at least reported this to the Columbus PD which now keep in mind is almost an
hour's drive away the reason how this comes about is that the the the lady that is the employer of Kevin Meyer
I think her brother-in-law she's somehow related to this detective that she says
hey I think this weird guy that works for me who also happens to be a butcher is the killer one because she's not
publicly stating this stuff we don't know actually what this weird stuff this weird guy is doing we have to really
understand and focus on what's going on in this area at this time this is a media circus down there okay we have a
town of only 6 500 people and after the bodies are found chopped up which there's really no nice way to put it I
apologize but that's the case right but then some could argue well Kevin has the
means to chop them up I mean just based off of his job yeah but what where I'm going with this is that it's a media
circus down there this is like the Casey Anthony Scott Peterson situation where we have everybody looking for a killer
and all this media comes to town and probably not as much media but it's also a much smaller town than where Casey
Anthony was from or Scott Pearson was from but what you obviously have is everybody wanting to become involved in
this case somehow there's a giant Spotlight on the small town of Logan Ohio and a lot of people want to push
their way to the Forefront and be in that spotlight and so everyone somehow feels connected
to the case and they feel like they have an opinion and something to say regarding the case well and there's
definitely some suspicious stuff with the stepfather I mean talking about his stepdaughter in past tense that's a
little odd uh you know the rumors around town we don't know if those are true or
not but those are those are some damning rumors if you're molesting your step daughter well and I think that's exactly
what you have here okay we've seen this the thing that is so interesting and intriguing about this real life case
is that so many times on television and in movies this situation is uh imitated and what I mean by that is think about
this we have the local guy the sheriff Jones he knows the area he's the man in charge he's been enforcing the law and
Logan for a long time I am the law and of course who does he think killed this couple it's it involves local rumors it
involves a guy that lives there that was under his watch that he says you know what I've heard all the rumors about
this guy I believe them to be true he's an outsider that came in here and he's not only an outsider by by moving and
transplanting into Logan he's an outsider in the sense that guy walks around with his clothes off right I
don't get him I don't understand him he's a weird o so he is a suspect under the local sheriff's eyes and then you
have the FBI agent if agent Henry comes into town and he says you know know what
I'm not going to get consumed by local rumor right I'm I'm I'm of a better class of law enforcement in the sense
I'm from the FBI I'm the better law well I'm going to come into the area and I'm
going to use my experience to actually hone in on a real suspect I'm not going to allow local rumor to point me in the
direction I'm going to use the facts and the evidence of the case and really we don't have a ton of evidence I mean we
have possibly these socks that are left by the crime scene where they think the crime scene could have happened the
cornfield and then we have this boot yeah so it I mean that's pretty much all they got
going for him right now there's not a lot of evidence and there's a lot of speculation and what I mean by that is
not just by FBI or law enforcement it's behind the locals and the locals are not
only telling the media about who they think did this they're calling the police department the Sheriff's
Department I mean can you imagine the phone calls that they're getting right we have a
demon a quote unquote demonologist that comes to the area and says look here's what actually happened a group of
drug-induced satanists killed and butchered these kids right but there is no evidence other than possibly the
mutilation that would lead this for anybody to believe that this is a Satanic ritual or
some type of thing maybe the six holes 666. maybe that would be some sign well I think that what we have here is really
the mutilation to the bodies the dismemberment is something that is so foreign to this area it you know there
are unfortunately there's a lot of murders out there maybe we should start a podcast most of the time the person
that kills the victim doesn't go to the length of of cutting them up into small pieces and that is horrifying that that
is something that is does not sit well with with any of us right we don't we most of us can't comprehend how somebody
could dissect somebody like that and so therefore I think that you try to make sense out of it the community as a
whole tries to make sense out of it and that's when you have people coming forward and saying well
listen to what the kids are listening to these days it's you know listen to the music that's out these days all these
kids are doing drugs these days it's got to be a bunch of Satanist it's the only
thing that makes sense to some of the people in the community and so where we have no evidence that there is any type
of uh to use a term from The West Memphis Three satanic trappings what did they call
that the um uh satanic droppings they called it something like that the trappings of a ritualistic killing the
droppings or the sacrificial killing but where we don't have any true evidence of
that you can have people coming out of the woodwork that are going like you just said
was there six holes well that must mean 666 right well was the was the hand separated from the forearm well that
must have me that must mean something and anytime you uh decapitate somebody that means that's a
satanic trapping and where we have no real evidence of that we also don't have any real evidence
that Dale Johnston killed these kids other than rumors really is the satanic crap anything more than a rumor no And
as far as his his family States as far as Dale Johnson's wife and other stepdaughter State all of the rumors of
him molesting the murdered victim Annette are nothing more than rumors just like the satanic
Panic going on is nothing more than a rumor there's no evidence there's nobody stating that they had witnessed that
happen and so the problem with this double homicide here I don't know I don't know that I would claim this to
be that we have a bunch of Keystone Cops that don't know what they're doing I don't I don't think that's the situation
here yes is murder a rarity there yes is the dismemberment of the body's super rare 100 you have the townspeople saying
we've never seen anything like this before never even heard of anything like this before
but at the same time I think really what is happening here in this very moment is that they are getting so many people
coming forward stating so many different things from different ends of the spectrum of what could be a possible
good lead to something that might just be crazy talk they have people coming to the police department the sheriff's
department stating I saw some guys that just seem to appear out of nowhere yeah with weird hats they're wearing funny
hats I think they were in the cornfield out and they must have killed those kids
because I've never seen them before and maybe they were demons maybe they were ghosts I don't know but that's the kind
of calls that they're getting right and where I think that this thing goes goes off the rails a bit and and I say that
and I laugh to myself because it's very obviously already off the rails right and plus you find yourself hilarious but
I think that there was probably some truth in some of those earlier statements given to police and some of those
earlier calls that were fed in as possible leads some of them were truthful and some of them were just
wrong and the problem I think we had here is who knows which lead to follow when you
receive a ton of them some of them are completely crazy some of them are complete maybe completely right but on
the surface until you investigate until you look at each one of those you can't tell which is which
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Back in 1982 murders in a small town in Ohio rocked a community to it’s core. Rumors in town swirled and circled around one suspect in particular. But most feared the worst. Some said a group of drug addicted satanists were sacrificing the lives of the town’s youth. Others believed a deranged psycho was just starting to spill blood in their town. Either way, the local law enforcement, the FBI and outside agencies could not agree on a prime suspect. This week we visit a small town that was visited by murder. Beer of the Week - Brick Kiln Bourbon Barrel Aged by Jackie O’sGarage Grade - 5 out of 5 Bottle

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Brief Summary

The episode details the 1982 murders of Todd Schultz and Annette Cooper in Logan, Ohio, and the ensuing investigation and community panic.

Key points

The Calm Before the Storm. Logan, Ohio, is a picturesque town where evil lurks beneath the surface.
A Mother's Fear. Todd's mother senses something is wrong when he doesn't return home.
Suspicion Rises. Dale Johnson's behavior raises alarms after Todd and Annette go missing.
Psychic Revelation. Dale Johnson seeks help from a psychic, who turns against him.
Gruesome Discovery. Two torsos found floating in the Hocking River lead to a shocking investigation.
Community on High Alert. The county is placed on high alert after the discovery of dismembered bodies.

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Evil can lurk anywhere, even in the most beautiful of living spaces.

Discussing the hidden dangers in seemingly safe places.

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