The Murder of David Harris (Part 1) | Morbid | Podcast | Forensic Files

Hey weirdos. I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is Morbid. [Music] It's morbid with no tech neck. We were
just talking. I didn't know what tech neck was. If you don't know what tech neck is, listener, it's when your cousin
takes a picture of you and you realize that you have a whole ass hump in the back of your neck because you've been
slouching over your computer for years. That's so scary. Like if you work like a
desk job or something and you're like really slouched over your computer, it can result in like a straight up
curvature of your spine. So you end up getting like a hump in your neck. That's so So now I am trying to sit up straight
and shoulders back, baby. shoulders back cuz you it the good news is it is reversible. I did a lot of that picture
was taken of me. I looked at it and we did research immediately. We said how do we reverse tech research tech neck out
hon technology is not it's not killing it good for us. I think it's good for us some ways but it's very good for us in
some ways but man I think we're I think it's I think it's going too far. I think
that's the problem is we can we can never just do things right as a species. We always have to take it way too far. I
know the the thing that sucks is that like sitting like this is so uncomfortable. Yeah, it is. Like I feel
so [ __ ] weird right now. She's just straight up. I'm just so I'm so straight right now. Straight right now. Look at
that. Happy Pride Month. Happy Pride Month. I'm just straight now. She's decided she's going to be straight.
She's gonna sit straight in body language. Just kidding. Uh, but speaking of technology, that went too far.
Go, girl. [ __ ] segue. We might have tech neck, but we got quick. We do not have tech
frames. Molina doesn't have tech neck cuz she's a [ __ ] It's because I am always rigid.
I know. I'm too loosey goosey. I'm always rigid in my posture cuz I sit very and I'll catch myself sometimes
sitting too rigidly like those things where people are like hey relax your shoulders and like unclench your jaw.
I'm always like I need to cuz I I'm always like my jaw is super tense as we know. But anyway,
speaking of that was a good segue. I don't want to I don't want to get too far away from it. Speaking of technology
that's gone too far. This is just a little um like a documentary kind of thing. recommendation. That's the word.
Uh, I haven't had enough coffee. Wow. I said our brains are quick too early on. So, I got super hyperfixated on the
Titan submersible thing when it was happening. I think a lot of us do. Very hyperfixated. I learned so much about
submersibles. I would be sitting next to John on the couch and just be like, "Can
I just tell you how carbon fiber is made?" Like he was just like, and so it went away after. I was like, you know,
I've always been like fixated on it. On to the next hyperfix. Exactly. On to the
next. And now HBO did a documentary, Implosion, the Titanic Sub Disaster. I got to see this. It I haven't finished
it yet because it's long and I'm old and I fell asleep. Not because it's not fun
good, but because I'm old and I fell asleep. It is so good so far and also horrifying
to watch. The amount of We're gonna cover this in an episode full episode because this is it is incredible
how much was ignored in the making. So scary and in the like this whole trip it was so avoidable. It is un I mean we all
knew it was avoidable because like you choose to get in a sub to go down to the Titanic, but I don't even mean in that
way. I mean, he ignored every single Stockton Rush ignored experts, right? He would fire people around him that told
him, "This thing is going to break. This thing needs a new hole. Like, the hole is cracked. It's you need to scrap it."
He would just fire people. He's just that guy who like surrounded himself like it seems like he surrounded himself
with yes people and that's it. I'm taking an astrology class right now. As you know, I'm I'm big into like woo woo
classes right now. I love the woo class. version of you. But I love as if you've
been listening to the show, I've like always really been interested in astrology, but I've only really known
like the tip of the iceberg. So, I'm like, let's [ __ ] go deeper and like we're going to learn how to read charts
in this class. I only had like the first one. So, we learned about like the planets and what they mean and the
different signs and like what they all represent. And so, I got a text from my teacher this morning basically being
like, um, I guess so Pluto went into or Yeah, that's right. Pluto went into Aquarius because the planets move um
this past November and Pluto is all about like use and abuse and misuse of power, beginnings and endings,
transformation, like technological [ __ ] And then Aquarius is like unpredictability, rapid changes,
uh like information, science, mathematics, like that kind of thing. So, she had sent a news article this
morning and was like, you know, like send us anything that represents Pluto and Aquarius energy. And Alina and I
were talking about this whole thing and I was like I'm really interested in this
guy's chart like what his [ __ ] chart because he's just a very interest fascinating man in a in a dark way.
Yeah. He has his Pluto in Aquarius. Yeah. Which is crazy cuz it was literally like an hour after I had got
that text. So I sent it to my child and my teacher was like great example. Look at that. And then she asked me a lot of
in-depth questions about the chart and I said I don't know yet. I don't know yet.
I don't know yet but I will look. But now I'm excited to see what Stockton Rush's chart is because I mean I would
love like um when Alisa Kelly told us like you know what like Stars Over Salem like I'm like tell me about this guy.
That's my goal is to get to Alisa Kelly's uh like [ __ ] level level. Yeah, I was going to say era. I mean get
to her era as well. But that's that will take me years. But I can only hope to be
as good as her. Oh, you will. Thank you. You'll get there. And then the two of you will just be charting all over the
place. My god. Well, you could chart with us and I'll just be like, "Tell me things." It's fascinating. It really is.
And like people can say that astrology is like woo woo. It's not real. Blah blah. [ __ ] there's something to it,
man. Ancient civilizations, I found out, used to use astrology and like look at the planets to figure out when kings
were going to die, when great famine would hit, like all these different things. So, [ __ ] you. It's real. So,
[ __ ] you. It's real. That's how I feel about astrology. That's the mode of today. And it's just fascinating. Well,
go watch that documentary Implosion because I'm telling you, it'll fascinate you. And then we'll do we'll cover it
like once we get all the research together and then maybe by that time I'll have gone a little bit further in
my class and I can tell you a little bit more about this guy's chart. I love that
cuz that's that's kind of fun. That's really fun. Yeah. She actually said we're going to look at some like serial
killer charts and stuff like that which I do feel like will be fascinating. Oh, for sure. Because obviously a lot of it
is, you know, I think certain things in your life are kind of predetermined, but
then I think some are like free will. Oh, for sure. So, it'll be interesting. It's the nature versus nurture of it
all. Yeah. It'll be interesting to look up. And I can't wait to watch that documentary. Yes. It's really good. It's
on HBO. Yeah, this one's on HBO. I think there's going to be another one too on like Netflix. Oh [ __ ] I think there is
one on Netflix. It's like two years, which which is like crazy. Or no, one one year. It's one year. Okay. Right. I
think it's only one. It's only one year that this happened. I think it was 2024.
I think you're right. No, it was 2023. Okay, so I was right. I need to go with my gut more. No, you should. I'm sorry
for doubting you. Holy [ __ ] that was 2 years ago. Two years. Cuz I remember being shocked. I was like, "Wait, what?"
Yeah. And on June 18th, it'll it'll be two two years. Yeah. Isn't that nuts? Yes. I'm actually like a little bit
shocked. Like, how is time a real thing? No, it's a flat circle. It really is. Well, speaking of like time being a real
thing, actually, we have a case today and I was thinking about it this morning cuz I like got this together like a few
days ago and then I was thinking about it. I was like I remember watching some of this like play out on the news. Like
I feel like I watched like a snapped episode of this when I was like far too young. I mean probably cuz as I was
going through this the other day, I was like I know that like this is a very well-known case. It's the murder of
David Harris and Clara Harris runs him over with her car. Um I definitely remember this. Horrible. I remember it.
But I had this like epiphany this morning where I was like I think I knew like a lot more about this when I was
like much younger cuz what were you what when was this? 2002. I was You're six. Six. But I think like later on like when
I was like eight or nine I saw like some special about it. Yeah. Cuz I was like damn. Yeah. No, not not when I was six.
I watched in the news when you were six again. I used to fall asleep to like forensic files as a child. So but let's
get into it. So, on the afternoon of July 24th, 2002, Clara Harris just casually asked her stepdaughter Lindsay
if she wanted to go for a drive, get out, enjoy the beautiful summer weather, Lindsay was 16 at the time. So, one, she
was like, "Hell yeah, let's go joy riding in your Mercedes-Benz." She loved her stepmom. They got along great. Oh,
that's nice. And this didn't seem unusual at all. Clara loved showing off her Mercedes. She loved driving it. Just
was like their thing to do. Yeah. For her, the car was a symbol of the success that she and her husband David had
achieved in their 10 years of marriage, including a thriving dental practice in the suburbs of Houston, Texas. Look at
that. They're very wellto-do people. Because Lindsay lived with her mom during the school year, and she spent
summers with Claire and her father, she welcomed the opportunity to hang out with her stepmom and happily accepted
the offer. They had actually gotten really close in the last couple of months, having bonded over the recent
revelation that David Harris, Clara's husband, and Lindsay's father, was having an affair with his secretary,
Gail Bridges. Oh, yes. What a thing to bond over. Uhhuh. I think they both felt hurt in different ways. Of course, they
you know. Yeah. It's just like, wow, what a what a trauma bond. Yeah. I think a lot of times like we don't realize
that like affairs affect kids as much as they do. Oh yeah. And like when kids find out about them, they also feel
duped. Well, they feel betrayed. Yeah. It's this it's a level of betrayal that's similar to what the spouse feels.
Yeah. Which is interesting. Mhm. But just a few weeks earlier, Clara had confronted David, her husband, about the
affair, and he agreed to end it. But the damage had been done and he was gonna have to work very hard to earn back not
only his wife's trust but his daughters as well. Ew. I also hate the like grossness of like you're having an
affair with your secretary. It's very cliche. Like it's very cliche. Get it together. Yeah. Both of you. Yeah. Gail
and David agreed. Well, Clara was very upset that afternoon and Lindsay knew that much. As far as Lindsay could tell,
it had something to do with her dad and his uh mistress Gail Bridges. Lindsay also knew that in the weeks leading up
to her father's affair being exposed that Clara had hired a private investigator to follow David and Gail.
Oh man. And it was that private investigator who had just called the house before Clara asked Lindsay to go
for a drive. So she was like, "Obviously, these two things are connected." Yeah. At first, it seemed
like Clara was just driving aimlessly. But soon it became clear to Lindsay that this was not a casual afternoon drive.
It was very much an excuse to hunt around town looking for David and Gail. Oh, no. Don't do that. Don't Don't do
that with his kid. Don't do that with his kids. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that with any kid. Yeah. Don't do that
with kids. That's a solo activity. Don't involve. That's a solo activity. And even then, like, don't hurt your own
feelings. Yeah. Well, this didn't come as much as a of a surprise to Lindsay. She knew that her father actually had
plans with Gail that evening, and the plans were supposed to be to formally end their relationship. So, it made
sense to Lindsay that they would be out with each other. But what didn't make sense was Clara's emotional state as
they drove. Like Lindsay, Clara also knew that David was planning to meet Gail that evening to end things. So, it
really shouldn't have come as much of a surprise when the PI called and said that they were meeting. Yeah. And
Lindsay remembered years later, she was just on a mission to find out where he was and she was crying, which is really
sad. That's really sad. That afternoon, Clara drove to all of the places she knew that David and Gail liked to go to
together, including to Gail's home. But there was no sign of David's car anywhere. So eventually, Clara pulled
over and asked Lindsay to to take over driving so that she could place a call to Blue Moon, which was the private
investigation firm that she had hired. At Clara's instruction, Lindsay just drove from one location to another. But
no matter where they went, it didn't seem that Gail and David were there. Lindsay said later, "She was so
confused. We were just gonna forget about it and go shopping, which came as a relief, but then Clara's phone rang,
which is so sad knowing that detail that like this almost went away. Yeah. Like we were just going to go shopping and
like just go shop retail therapy girl. Spend his money. Spend his money. Spend his [ __ ] money. Yes. Make him pay
that way. Make him literally pay with that. Yes. Exactly. You know, like nobody deserves to pay with their life.
So it's like make them pay with actual money. It's like that. Hey ladies, when you're making [ __ ] literally like that
and it's like damn, you just wish like that that had gone that way. I know for many of the people involved, you know,
when you find out like this next bit that I'm going to say, it's like this wasn't even supposed to happen because
despite a company rule about not returning clients requests for updates until the following day, a policy put in
place to prevent messy or even potentially dangerous situations. Private investigator Lucas Baka told
Clara he had picked up David's trail and that he and Gail had checked into a local hotel and were either on the
fourth or sixth floor, but said that he couldn't provide any more details until the following day. Oh man. But it's like
first of all, you already provided enough details for this to get messy and dangerous. Yes, absolutely you did. And
then not one to be denied something that she thought she was entitled to, Clara eventually just pried the remaining
details out of him. And it was worse than she ever could have imagined. Well, and imagine I I can't fathom one finding
out that your husband is having an affair with his secretary. My god. I can't fathom that. That's why our
husbands don't have secretaries. Yeah. No, you can't have secretaries. I'm just kidding. But also, it's just like that
must I can't imagine the feeling of that. I really can't. Like that's an awful I've been cheated on by like
ex-boyfriends. I know that that sucks. I just can't imagine going through with like marriage and having it happen.
Marriage. That must be a whole different kind of vibe. Yeah. And then also to then know that like they're meeting to
end it would be also [ __ ] up of a feeling cuz you know they're meeting and well and they're breaking up and you're
not there like he's breaking up with the woman that he's having an affair with. Like it's just like what? It's a wild
concept. And then to then be hearing they just checked into a hotel and you're sitting here with his daughter.
Yeah. Because you're Why are you breaking it off at a hotel? And it's Well, and that's the thing.
What are the implications? And it's like you just know like and again this is what I mean like nobody should pay with
their life for these kind of indiscretions. No way. But like bar hands down like that's it. But it's like
you just wonder like you're just like oh my god that was like shot after shot for
her like and you just h supposed to have that information. Like she just shouldn't have had that
information. You know what I There's literally a there was a company policy put into place because that this kind of
information can set somebody into a tail spin. And the fact that like the company
policy already was in place tells you there had been situations in the past where they had to then put that policy
in place or they've at least seen enough evidence to know like this could go this
could go gnarly if if we really you know cuz you you just don't you don't need to
give all that information. Yeah. People in heightened emotional states do a terrible human species is very flawed
that way. Sure, we need to be aware of it. But it's just like there's those two sides of that coin where it's like he he
did not deserve to pay with his life. No. [Music] Well, so as far as Claire and Lindsay
knew, like I said, David's plan was to meet Gail, but at a local restaurant, a public place where it was much less
likely that there would be a scene. But according to the PI, the couple had checked into the Nassau Bay Hilton in
Houston, which to add insult to injury, was the same hotel where David and Clara
had their wedding reception a decade earlier. Wow. Let that sink in for a second.
Yeah, that's [ __ ] up. And then when you know how this all ends, it's like you walked out that door as newlyweds
and then like he ends his like he doesn't end his own life, but his life ends there. Like what a horrible tragic
what a tragic on another level. And also like Gail does Gail know that Gail must
know that he has a an entire family. Yeah, honestly Gail go [ __ ] yourself. She might have been told some
interesting details that we'll get to, but still please. So when she heard the news, Clara's attitude and demeanor
apparently changed immediately where she had previously been very determined, irritated, confused, even now she was
silent, humorless, just affectless like in another world entirely. That's that must have been so scary for Lindsay. For
Lindsay. Absolutely. She's 16 years old. And to see someone just live like to go
numb like that like affectless is like wo like we've crossed over into dangerous territory. really dangerous
territory and she's 16. She knows that, you know. So, Clara dialed the phone again, this time calling the house to
speak with the nanny who was taking care of the couple's two other children. Oh,
man. Yeah. When Maria Gonzalez answered the phone, Clara told her in a flat, even tone to quote, "Pack her husband's
best clothes in the couple's oldest suitcase and place it outside the door in the garage, and the rest of his
clothes, she told Gonzalez, could just be thrown in the trash." Damn. Which I think was really nice of her to let him
keep his oldest clothes. And honestly, I wish you gone there. Yeah, that's it. Just kick that [ __ ] out. Yeah.
Yeah. Like have your And then go spend the money. Yeah. That's it. That's the recipe. No one gets hurt physically. No.
When she hung up the phone though, Clara in the same flat tone as she had used with the nanny instructed her
stepdaughter to go to the Nassau Bay Hilton. Oh no. It was about 8:30 p.m. when Lindsay pulled the Mercedes into
the Hilton lot and parked in one of the guest spaces and then followed Clara into the lobby. Oh no. She should not be
part of this. I didn't even realize that she was like such a big part of I always
knew that she was there. Like that's such a big part of the story, but I didn't realize how there she was. She
was like brought into the lobby and [ __ ] like that. She should not be witnessing
this kind of [ __ ] No. This poor girl, lots and lots of trauma. Yeah. So, at the front desk, Clara asked for her
husband's room name number, excuse me, but she was told that nobody was registered under that name. So, she
asked for the room number of Gail Bridges, but received the same response. She's getting nowhere. So, she lied to
the clerk and she was like, "Listen, my son is sick. I need to get in touch with
my husband immediately. Like, I know he's here." But the clerk only repeated that there wasn't anybody registered
under those names, so he just couldn't help her. Later, after detectives went through the hotel security footage and
records, they learned that the clerk had been telling the truth. David Harris had
paid cash in advance for the room, so the clerk hadn't bothered with the usual check-in procedures, like getting his
guests, like the guest names or their license numbers. So, feeling frustrated and defeated, Clara did a slow walk
around the lobby one final time, Lindsay just reluctantly in tow. Oh god. And as
they were heading back to the car, Clara spotted what she thought was Gail Bridg's car in one of the spaces in the
employee parking lot. When she got closer, she saw some of the identifying details and confirmed that it was indeed
Gail's car, and she turned back in the direction of the hotel lobby, but not before ripping off the rear windshield
wiper and dragging her keys along the side of the vehicle. Damn. Yeah. Carrie Underwood style. Oof. So, the explosive
attack on Gail's car seemed to have exhausted Clara briefly. I've never keyed a car personally, but I feel like
No, I feel like that would exhaust you, though. and ripping the windshield wipers off. That I can't even get my
windshield wipers off when I'm supposed to. And here's the thing. It's like this
is like this is wrong. I know. I know you're angry. You have every right to be angry. She has every right to feel
whatever feeling she is feeling right now. Yeah. You got to you got to you got to hold some of that stuff. You know
what I mean? You got to do it in a better way. It's like you can't be destroying property. You can't be
killing people when you're a mom. Like you're a mom in this scenario to Lindsay. Like a stepmom. Yeah. You got
you got to you're a a parental figure to and you have two other kids. Exactly. Like you got to immedately think of them
and say this is going to get me in trouble and this is bad to show them as a way to get your anger out. You know
what I mean? It's like obviously I've never been in this situation. So it's like but you it's just like oh no. And
you can just see it like escalating really quickly. I can't imagine being like I don't think I've ever been
cheated on. Drew is like my only serious relationship and he definitely never cheated on me. But being cheated on in
like a relationship where there's no kids is one whole world and level of hurt. Being cheated on by your husband
when you have multiple kids together is like a whole other level of betrayal. That's got to be a Cuz now you're
thinking of them. Yeah. Like that's happening to them. You didn't just cheat on your wife, you cheated on your
family. Exactly. And that's the hard part. And it's like Yeah. So she's just not thinking clearly. But so now she's
consumed with rage and she's determined to get David out into the opening of the
hotel lobby. So she had Lindsay call her father's cell phone and he answered right away. And Lindsay, as instructed,
told him, "You need to come home. Bradley is sick." That was one of their sons. Yeah. So he was like, "Okay, I'll
be right there." And hung up. Clara and Lindsay watched the bank of elevators from outside the glass front doors of
the hotel, just waiting for David and Gail to emerge. After a few minutes passed and they still hadn't appeared,
Clara herself called David's phone and repeated the earlier message that their son was sick. And again, David said he
was on his way immediately. By that point, Clara had gone back into the lobby and was waiting right by the
elevators to confront him when he came out. Which honestly, you wish that that had happened. Well, that does happen.
Like confront, but I mean like and that's it. Like just confrontation in a public place. Yeah, cuz that's bad
enough. Like that's bad enough, but it's like you're not nobody's getting hurt. Everybody leaves alive. Yeah. You're in
a public place. Like obviously you don't want that to happen at all, but it's like if it's going to happen that you
wish that was the end of that and then it's just like and then divorce. Yes. The end. Like get out of there. Yeah.
Well, so anticipating the confrontation, Lindsay convinced her stepmother to go back outside and wait. She's like, "We
shouldn't wait right here." And this 16-year-old trying to diffuse this situation. You feel so hard for her. Oh,
I feel Lindsay. I want to like gather up and hug and just go take her shopping. Like I know she's a grown adult now cuz
this was 2002. Yeah, but I still want to give still lives in here. I still want to give you a hug cuz this was a lot a
lot an unimaginable thing to go through. Well, and she's being the adult here. She's saying Clara like we don't want to
cause a scene. Let's go outside. She's Exactly. She's trying to deescalate. So, she does try to, but unfortunately that
didn't do a lot of good. Lindsay said she was calm until she saw Dad and Gail come out. Then cuz she Lindsay was able
to get her inside or outside, but then she said she ran inside. She was ready to go inside and fight. As soon as she
saw David and Gail come out of those elevators, Clara rushed into the lobby and just started hitting Gail. Oh, I
see. Tearing her shirt open, just starting a brawl with this woman. And as far as Clara was concerned, this was the
woman who had stolen her husband and destroyed her family. And it's like, yeah, like like you know, she's she's
the other woman. She's that's not good. That's not a good person to be. At the same time, you don't know what he's told
her. Well, also, and let's matter if she's if she's like full on doesn't give a [ __ ] that she has a whole It doesn't
even matter. It's like you can't physically attack someone and you can't and and what is it getting you, right?
That's the thing. A charge. Many times I have wanted to physically hurt someone.
Same. For sure. Same. Like that's just we're animals. We are animal. It's it's a thing. It's a primal instinct. Anger
can fight or flight. Fight is part of it. And it's like that is it's going to happen. But the you have to fight
against that instinct cuz again especially as a parent, as a human, but especially as a parent when you have
even more under your responsibility, not just yourself and more to lose like you
know what I mean? Like especially as a parent, you have to sit there and go, "Is this worth it?" This momentary
second of getting all my rage out on this woman and feeling like, "Hell yeah, I just punched her in the face."
Probably not. Is that going to be How long is that going to last? It's going to last a split second of like that felt
good and then boom, reality is going to hit you like a [ __ ] a 747 jet. It's like that is not going
to be good cuz then you're going to catch a charge. You're going to have to kids are going to have to see how you
reacted to a situation. They might take cues from how you reacted to a situation
and think that's how they should act or could be embarrassed by the situation depending on how old they are. Like
there's a lot of layers. It's bad. And you are now walking around you know like it's like so even this is like oh girl
and it shows you that she was just out of her mind. Out of her mind because this is such an overreaction you know.
It is. And it it is. So she yelled in Gail's face, "You [ __ ] he's my husband." And just knocked her to the
floor. She was just repeatedly striking Gail in the face and in the head. And she looked up at all the guests who were
just, you know, crowding around watching in a mix of horror and curiosity because
we're all terrible people. We are. And told them, "This is David Harris and he's [ __ ] this woman right here."
Damn. Huh? I mean like you just look so wild. You look so wild and it's like you get the you get the
emotion behind you. Absolutely. That's the thing we can I cannot stress enough that like this the emotions that would
come with this would be horrific and it's and I can't imagine you would want to embarrass this man and this woman.
That's the thing. You're really not just embarrassing them. Yeah. And again, there's a child here. Yeah. There's a
child. not only involved, there's children involved, but there's a child literally physically present. And it's
like this is just that's going to affect her forever witnessing just that. Yeah.
You know, if that was where it ended, that was going to [ __ ] her up. And again, she's taking she's a child. She's
taking cues from you and she's very upset with her father. So now she's implicated in things and done things
that she probably regrets. Yeah. And it's pitting it's pitting this Lindsay her emotions against her father, right?
Which obviously he made a massive mistake. It's like was you know it's not like there was this like whole you know
you know he he she hated him because he was physically abusive kind of thing to her or anything like that. Like I mean
like Lindsay like you know this is all purely emotionbased and betrayal based which is a very real thing. Absolutely.
But to involve her in that kind of like emotional fight there like you're having
with him is involving is like directly inviting her into the trauma with you when she should be able to deal with it
in a way that she cuz she's going to feel betrayed by him but in a different way. That's the thing in a different
way. She needs to deal with her piece of it and not co-opt yours because your marriage does not equate to their
relationship. Of course, again, like we said, she's going to feel a betrayal, but she's going to be feel a betrayal as
a as a daughter and not as a spouse, right? And those are two different things that need to be worked out in two
very different ways and two very different therapies. This is very much involving her in the like romantic
relationship of it all, which is a messier way messier in a totally different way, you know, kind of
situation. It just is very upsetting. Well, so it didn't take long before several hotel employees rushed over to
the scene and started trying to separate Gail and Clara. By then, Clara's anger had turned into uncontrollable rage. As
one employee was pulling her away from Gail, she clung to the woman's blouse and nearly ripped it off. And then when
she lost her grip on the shirt, she grabbed Gail's leg and bit down hard on her leg. She's like animal level rabbit.
I was just going to say this is animalistic. So when it was clear that hotel employees were having no luck
separating the two women, David finally stepped in and put his hand on Clara's forehead and pushed her away to the
floor, giving the desk clerk enough time to get Gail outside to her car and David
walking a few feet behind after Gail. This is just so bad in every way. No one is making a correct decision here in how
to act. No. Like, no. None of this was okay cuz he's not helping deescalate this situation in any way, shape, or
form. And it's like this is just not good. It's horrible. So, with Gail removed from the situation, things seem
to calm for a moment as the clerk then walked Clara and Lindsay out to the car in the parking lot. But then sitting
behind the wheel of the Mercedes, Clara started crying as one of the guests, Evangelos Smeiros, helped her into the
driver's seat, h just the fight having gone completely out of her. Now she's sobbing. And this sweet man is helping
her in her car, which I'm also like, don't let her drive right now. I know, but he's he doesn't know her. Nobody
could have predicted this. No, no, no, no. So, he closed the door and started to walk away. And then he heard the
tires of Clara's car screech as she threw it into gear. He said she was screaming again, crying, hysterical, out
of control. And then he watched as Clara threw the car into drive and tore through the parking lot in the direction
of the hotel's front entrance. And Lindsay's in the car. Lindsay's in the car. See, already, which is devastating.
Not only are you like you're out of control, you're endangering no matter what is going to happen here, you're
endangering this child. That's [ __ ] up. It is [ __ ] up. Like, get your emotions in check. You are an adult.
Absolutely. This is a very emotional scene. I get it. I This is This is [ __ ] up in every way, but you got to
check yourself. Get yourself together. Like become an adult. And also, it's one thing to like try like you were just
saying like when there's kids in the equation, like you have to think of them first. You have to do that when they're
not there. She's sitting there right next to you as a reminder that like you need to check yourself. Every decision I
make in my life, I think of my children and what that decision is going to do to
affect them. Of course you do. every single decision, whether they are in the room with me, not in the room with me,
whether I'm somewhere else, if they're in the [ __ ] car with me, it's a lot easier. It's a lot easier to make that
decision cuz they're right there. And it's like, you got to become an adult in this situation, and she just didn't. No.
So, Smeiro's tried to catch up to the car, yelling for her to stop, that she's going to hurt someone, but she already
picked up. I know. He's just trying to stop it. He All he could do at this point is watch as she drove away. At the
front entrance of the Hilton, the desk clerk, uh, Garrett Clark was standing on the curb watching David Harris walk back
into the hotel after saying bye to Gail. After saying bye to Gail. Jesus Christ.
He could hear Evangelos Smeiros yelling just moments before he saw Clara's Mercedes swerve around Gail's car. He
said, "I saw her driving very fast around the corner and accelerating towards me. She clipped the rear bumper
of Gail's car as she swerved around just as Clark turned to see her intended target, David Harris. he said. I saw
bulging eyes, a terrified look in his eyes. I then saw the Mercedes hit David Harris and then come to a complete stop.
This must have been absolutely horrifying to watch. Um, yeah. And all I'm thinking about in this moment is
obviously David Harris did not deserve this at all and probably did not who can predict that this is going to happen.
You know what I mean? Like obviously people cheat on people all the time and you don't always hear of this outcome
but you know like it's nobody's like hurting somebody physically or like killing anybody here and it's like until
now until now and it's like this has been escalated to a point where it's no longer Lindsay is in the car that just
I'm thinking of David Harris here who like made a mistake and is not you know the good guy in this situation up until
this point but he did not deserve this and then Lindsay in this [ __ ] out of control car with somebody who is so anim
animalistic that they can't even straight for a second like this poor child is probably like what is going to
happen? Is she going to like send us into the side of this building? Like are we going to die here? Yeah. and the car
has just hit her father and she watches as her bo as her father's body was thrown 25 ft into the air and then
landed on the other side of the parking lot median where obviously it came to a hard thud. Nobody should have to witness
this. It only gets worse, Elena. [Music] Garrett Clark and other guests in the parking lot watched in absolute horror
as Clara proceeded to drive in a loop around the parking lot and over the median where she then drove over her
husband's body. Not one more time, but two more times. I That's like so beyond Well, and you
have time to stop. That's beyond a snapped moment. Yes. And you have time to stop and realize that what you're
doing is wrong. Like after the fir I mean, the first hit alone, watching your husband's body go 25 ft in the air
should absolutely like it should never get to that point. That should take you out of here. That should take you out of
it. hearing the thud of your husband's body after it's been thrown across a parking lot median come down onto the
ground should snap you out of and hearing whatever poor Lindsay is probably doing in that car should be
snapping you out of this situation. And this is haunting. Later, Clark, who was the hotel employee who was just standing
by watching all of this, he said, "I heard her cackling and laughing as she drove the last two feet before she hit
him." I can't stop thinking of Lindsay in that car. Inside the car, they can't stop
thinking of her seeing this woman laughing and cackling inside the car. All they could hear was Lindsay
screaming and at one point even trying to get out of the car while it's still moving but slowed down and she was
trying to get out just before her stepmother drove over her father. Cuz you feel that. Yeah. Like she's
feeling every second of this. She knows she's driving over her father right now.
Like Yep. Like this is just It's on another level. It's on another level. Human emotion. This is like so beyond.
So, after hitting David for the final time, Clara finally put the car in park. And according to witnesses, once the car
had stopped, Lindsay jumped out of the passenger seat, ran around the driver's side, and punched Clara in the face,
which warranted. I know. I just said like, "You got to think before you go violent with somebody. You run my dad
over with a car. I'm punching you in the face." I'm I'm having human emotions right now. So, you like to see No, no,
no. We're all having human emotions. And if you disagree with this, you're stupid. Yeah, it's like whatever. I'm in
a car that some my stepmom is driving and she runs over like I I have a stepmom and a dad. If my stepmom put me
in a car at 16 years old and drove over my dad multiple times, I would get out and punch her in the face. I can't.
That's my [ __ ] dad. I cannot for one second blame Lindsay in any way, shape, or form for punching her in the And
honestly, she's probably trying to get her out of her [ __ ] stuper. She's snap out of it. Snap the [ __ ] out of it.
Look what you just did. Exactly. like now it's all done. God damn. So then Clara got out of the car seemingly in a
days uncertain what to do next. And at this point she just stood over David's body and started sobbing uncontrollably.
Then dropped to the ground and cradled him in her his cradled him in her arms and started begging him to breathe.
Witnesses heard her saying over and over again, "I'm so sorry, David. I'm so sorry. I love you."
Wow. So, she was just gone. Gone. She was just in [ __ ] orbit. Because that's the thing, like there's a lot of
argument over what her state of mind was when this all happened. For me, like I think what she did is wrong and I think
she deserved to spend time in prison for it 100,000 gajillion%. But I don't think she was all there when
this happened. And then I think when she realized what she did, she had a moment
of [ __ ] Yeah. cuz she starts sobbing and begging him to breathe and telling him how sorry she is and how much she
loves him. And I don't think that was for show. I think that was a I just [ __ ] killed my husband. Which also
that's a dangerous person. Oh my god. Yeah, that's a really dangerous person that
reckless [ __ ] Well, and that they just blink out like that. You can't just come back and go, "Oh [ __ ] sorry."
That's the thing cuz I'm not saying just to be clear. I'm not saying she was insane at the time. No, you're saying
she blinked out like she that's the only phrase I can think of to describe how I'm seeing it is like she literally just
was like I don't think she was criminally insane at all during this. I think she
deserved to go to No, I think she was fully blinded by the most intense rage that I can I don't think any of us can
conceive of. No, hopefully not. So I think and I think she literally was gone. Blinded by rage I think is apparently a
real thing. I think she just Thankfully I've never experienced it. But moments later dangerous. So dangerous. Moments
later, Houston police arrived at the scene and uh placed her under arrest for the murder of her husband, which
everyone had just watched. Holy [ __ ] So the news of Clara murdering Clare Harris
murdering her husband actually [ __ ] shocked everyone who knew them. I would assume Clara and David were, as far as
anybody could tell, the perfect couple. In fact, people said they had the type of relationship that they wished they
had with their husbands. But that's for show. Yeah. It tell It tells you that nothing on the outside is
real. And you don't know anyone's life unless you're in that house with them. True. You don't know anything. All these
influencers that we all love online, all these [ __ ] housewives that we watch, we don't know [ __ ] Yeah, but everyone
has an opinion. Everybody thinks they know exactly what's going on. We don't know. This is the kind of [ __ ] that
tells you you have no [ __ ] clue. No. That's why I don't aspire for anybody's relationship. I focus on my relationship
and making it the greatest I can. You don't look at this is the perfect couple. No one's the perfect couple. No.
And it's like real. I'm concentrating on my own my own relationship. That's all I
can control. So Clara, going back a little ways, Clara had been born in Colombia and raised by a mother who was
widowed very young. So she had seen firsthand what it was like to struggle and to get by. And she vowed that she
was going to work hard. She was determined to make a life for herself and support herself. Yeah. She was
actually very successful. After finishing high school in the early 80s, she started studying to become a dentist
in Colombia. And then she was accepted into the dental program at the University of Texas Houston where she
finished her studies and started a dental residency at the school. By all accounts, she was beautiful, she was
talented, she was smart, she had a very bright future ahead of her. In fact, just a few months after completing her
dental residency at UT Houston, she was crowned Miss Columbia Houston in a local
beauty contest. Oh, wow. Wow. So, she like as far as everybody everybody was concerned from the outside, she had it
together. Had it all in every way you possibly could. Had it all. David met Clara in 1991 when they were both
working at Castle Dental Center in Houston. And his father, Gerald, told a reporter, "I remember David calling soon
after he had met Clara and telling me he was completely smitten." Oh, which is so
sad. That is really sad. Like Clara, he was a skilled dentist with a bright future. He was actually very gifted when
it came to his personal studies and his chosen profession, but he also had a way
with patients that just put them at ease when they sat down. He had he had a great personality, it seems. And
honestly, that with dentists, you need that. You need to be able to put people at ease. According to author, my guy
Skip Hollensworth, he writes on like all the big Texas cases, which I just love.
Um, according to Skip Hollensworth, David quote had a charming folksy nature and used words like golly long after
they had fallen out of fashion. I love that. I do too. I actually love that. I love Gully. David had been married once
before to Lindsay's mother, but the marriage didn't last long. They separated after just a few years cuz uh
Lindsay's mother felt like he was too driven, too career focused, just didn't have enough time to spend with the
family. As divorces go, it was pretty amicable. He got partial custody of Lindsay. He saw her on occasional
weekends and holidays. And as we know, she spent summers at his house. So that's a great deal. Yeah. It was true
that he was a man driven to succeed in his field, but by the time he met Clara, he was already what most people would
consider to be successful. So that drive, you know, diminished a little bit cuz he was already So she probably got a
little bit of a different version. She did. Yeah, exactly. I think that's a great way to say it. And for that
matter, Clara was also career focused. So I think maybe they had that in common. Yeah. So she and David had a lot
in common. They hit it off immediately and within a year they were engaged to be married.
They got married at the Windmir Yacht Club in Houston on February 14th, 1992 and as we know had a large beautiful
reception at the adjacent Nassau Bay Hilton, which is just [ __ ] chilling to me. That is chilling to me that their
wedding reception is where she 10 years later would kill him. Their wedding guest parked in that parking lot. But it
really all comes down to you got to you got to be a human, adult human about it.
And you can't go off the handle like this. Like we There's ways to handle this. Yeah. And those ways are you
choose to work through it or you divorce or you divorce your choice. Take them to
the cleaners. Yeah. Take them to cleaners. Yeah, that's fine. You know, like what? Why not? Yeah. But this Yes.
is so upsetting. It is. So, yeah. Before long, David's reputation as a skilled orthodontist had gotten around Houston,
and he and Clara ended up opening their own practice. It was called Space Center
Orthodontics. Ooh. In the years that followed, they would open several other offices. Basically, they had like a
small chain of privately owned orthodontic offices in the Houston area. And they were serving as many as 100 120
clients per day. Wow. So, they were like in business and probably making bank. Yeah, they definitely were making bank.
I think they were among Houston's richest. Yeah. In 19 maybe not richest, but they were rich. In 1993, Clara told
a reporter, "I found the best. I found the one God had reserved for me." Oh man. Yeah. And the feeling was mutual at
the time. Like Clara, David had photographs of him and Clara, photos of their family hanging all over the
various offices, which tells you everything you need to know. Exactly. And if the photographs weren't enough of
a reminder of their love, they spoke on the phone two or three times all throughout the day, all before going
home to each other in the evening. Seems like it's like great. Yeah. They were in
constant contact. After they were married, Clara welcomed Lindsay into her life with open arms.
And Lindsay was actually smitten with her father's new wife. That's even sadder cuz it's like you love to hear
that. You're like, "Yes." Like Well, that's also like not common. No. Which is like really sad, you know? But like
she got that and [ __ ] it up. Yeah. Like beyond repair. Massive way. Mhm. But before we got there, Clara also
really wanted children of her own. And in 1993, that dream became reality when she gave birth to two twin uh to twin
boys. So they had like a big happy family. Everything's great. Yeah. They have the sprawling suburban mansion, the
Mercedes, the kids. But it was equally important to her that she showed the world that she was just as committed to
her family as she was to her career. She wanted both. Skip Hollensworth wrote, "No matter how many patients Clara had
to see, she always got home in time to cook dinner for her family and their palatial white brick home in the cheery
suburb of Friendswood." Wow. Like when I tell you when I tell you quintessential
like and like picture perfect. It seems so perfect with her being like, I have to get home to have dinner with my
family. Like that's so and that's telling me like she had that like that like parental like way of thinking where
it's like no my family comes first and it's like where did it go on this day? She she blinked out like it just blinked
out but she would always tell her patients before this all happened she had the perfect life and those who knew
her even just a little bit would have been inclined to agree. Absolutely. A former co-orker said, "I used to tell
people I wished I could be able to love my husband in the way that Clara loved David." Which I was like, "Damn, I think
you should do some internal work." Um, that that's an unsettling statement. Yeah, but she really loved her husband,
I guess. Like, holy [ __ ] She's like, "Damn, I wish I liked my husband." Like, oh [ __ ] Okay, that's sad. You should
talk to someone about that. Yeah. Well, the birth of the twins obviously was a major milestone in Clara and David's
lives, both of them, and one they absolutely relished. But it also seemed that they may have underestimated the
way that priorities change once kids enter the picture. Uh oh. At first, David's attentiveness to Clara and his
two son, his two sons, was unwavering. Former employee Susan Hansen said Clara was idolized by her husband. When she
called, he would always run to the phone. But after a few years, things started to change, especially after one
Gail Bridges joined the practice as a new secretary in 2001. with Clara at home or at work in another
practice. David started paying attention to Gail in ways that he had not ever paid attention to other women in the
office. That's [ __ ] up. Yeah. And as far as anybody could tell, the feeling was mutual. They all agreed, quote
unquote, Gail went out of her way to gain David's attention as he flitted from exam room to exam room. So, this is
like Lifetime movie [ __ ] And it's literally like she has twins and suddenly eyes are wandering. That's
That's [ __ ] up. That's super [ __ ] up. Oh, it only gets more [ __ ] up. I don't know. 6 months later in February
2022, David invited Gail to lunch at Perry's, one of his favorite local restaurants, and their affair pretty
much started then. Once Gail was hired, the change in David's behavior wasn't far behind. Susan Hansen said, "I began
to notice a difference in David around February. He was not making decisions as well as he had been in the past, and he
was much less attentive to his patients." Wow. Which remember, this is the guy who was like super attentive.
Yeah. at in his first marriage, so much career focus that that didn't work out. Yep.
And now he's like not really as attentive at all. Uh Hansen there also started to notice that David was
different with Gail than he was with other employees. He definitely seemed more intimate and attentive. And now she
said when Clara would call, he was much less eager to rush to pick up the phone and sometimes would just put her on hold
until he figured out and finished what he was doing. That's yucky. Mhm. It wasn't long before David's relationship
with Gail was obvious. Not just to everybody working in the office, but to even people who stopped by for a visit.
And that's humiliating. Like his sis or like his daughter Lindsay. Yeah. That's humiliating and gross. Yeah. It's
humiliating to Clara on and to Lindsay. On one occasion, Lindsay came by the office to visit her dad and she was very
troubled by something she saw. According to Lindsay, she was sitting in the waiting area by the front desk and she
saw that her dad had dropped a patient vial on the floor. And before he could reach down to pick it up, she said Gail
had bent over to pick it up. Not bent at the knees like you would normally expect, but bent over at the waist,
making a point of bending right in front of him. I'm going to be honest, I don't
like Gail. No, it's Let's Let's get that out of the way. Yeah, that's gross. And
also like his daughter's there, so maybe like get your [ __ ] [ __ ] together. Yeah, like maybe like get yourself out
of heat for a minute. Exactly. Take a cold shower. Gill, maybe somebody spritz her down with some water. Susan Hansen
said, "I told Lindsay she should talk to him or to somebody about what she'd seen, which is so sad that she was
obviously upset and went to another employee who she probably knew like she's grown up in this practice. She
should not be having to see that kind of [ __ ] No. Get it together. Now, it wasn't just the obvious tension that
tipped others off to David and Gail's relationship, but also subtle changes happening around the office. Gail was
hired as a front desk receptionist. She was going to, you know, schedule appointments, say hey to patients, file
paperwork, receptionist [ __ ] Yeah. But by winter of 2002, she seemed to take on
a much larger role in the company, seemingly at David's insistence. Huh. By March, other employees were stunned to
find her participating in management meetings, making staffing decisions, and even touring the new facility that David
was having built by Interstate 45. Wow. Making staffing decisions sent me. Yeah.
Like, come on. I'm sorry, but like come on. That's That's different. That's inappropriate. That's a different That's
a different job. Yeah. It just is. Yeah. [Music] Diana Cheryl who worked at the office
said, "When we went on a tour of the new offices, Dr. David and Gail slipped off.
He had forgotten I was there." Oh, yeah. Even though most people who noticed that, you know, this change was for sure
happening were disgusted with his behavior, a few women in the office considered it a quote unquote natural
part of aging. And here's a problem, women. Okay, ladies, let's do better. Okay, let's let's do a little [ __ ]
better for ourselves and each other and not just say, "Well, he's going to try to [ __ ] his secretary at some age."
Men go through the change of life. No. Get Get the [ __ ] out of here. Also, and
women don't. Get the [ __ ] out of here with that. Go through changes in life. That doesn't mean I'm going to hop on my
secretary. Like, what the [ __ ] Take that [ __ ] and choke on it. Are you [ __ ] kidding me, woman? Yeah. Like
Mikey just mumbled in the corner. Mikey is marked to save. Mikey is marked. Happy Pride everybody. Yeah, that's
[ __ ] up. I'm sorry whoever said that. Seek help. Like that's insane. Yeah, that's in That's wild wild word. It's
also just indicating that he's doing this because his his needs aren't being met at home. Well, it's like it's a boys
will be boys mentality. Men will be men. Well, then [ __ ] the men, okay? Cuz no,
you can't. And not all men and not all boys. So, of course, get out of here. Just leave. Get out right now. Leave.
Just like blanketed over them like this is what they all do. No. What? It's a very uh 2002 way of thinking. And again,
does anyone deserve to die because of this? Absolutely not. But by that summer, uh, Diana, their employee there,
had grown very irritated and very tired of watching this affair play out in front of everybody. And I'm sure Good
for Diana. He wasn't being a great boss during this time. So, she called Clara and asked if they could meet. Well, cuz
they probably they know Clara. She works there. She call She works there. She's a
huge part of her. And he's basically asking all of them to be a part of his [ __ ] and they're probably getting
really tired of it. And that's a girl's girl right there. It is. Diana's a girl's girl and she's sitting there
saying, "You know what? I can't sit here and watch you do this and just pretend that it's fine. Listen, that's what you
got to do." Yeah. So, when they finally sat down together in early July, Diana told Claire, "You need to protect your
marriage. You need to pay attention to Dr. David." I take it back. She's not a girl's girl.
Diana is not a girl. I take that back. I was trying to look at you. I also realized that Diana's the one that said
they go through the change, too. Diana, you're not a girl. Yeah. I don't like that at all. I don't either. I'm
actually really angry at She was basically being like, "Listen, he's stepping out on you, so you got to like
your fault. Shove your boobies in his face when he gets home or something." I actually have beef with Diana right now.
So that's where we are. Okay. That's Diana. We have beef. Like that's that's [ __ ] up. Yeah. She said, "Now you've
totally put it on her." Oh yeah. It gets worse. As far as Diana saw it, ever since the twins were born, they had
become the center of Clara's world. As it [ __ ] should be. has it. [ __ ] should be. They're
infants. They need their mom and dad. I'm sorry. Are you telling me that a man is jealous of babies of baby twins? Of
his own babies for getting more attention. [ __ ] off. You got it. The day. You got it. The day a [ __ ]
says that to me. The day. That doesn't even sound real. Like that is And that left less time for David. He felt like
he'd been pushed to the side. Oo. Diana said, "Finally, she asked me if he was having an affair, and I said yes." And
Diana went one step further. She told Clara exactly who David was having an affair with, his secretary. How cliche.
You made so many weird choices there, Diana. You really did. Yeah, she really she she gave me whiplash. She gave me
whiplash. Well, anyway, the news obviously was a lot for Clara. I can't That's a lot to swallow.
But she at this point is like, "Oh, no. I've been so wrapped up in, you know, the boys and my practice. I didn't have
any time to think about David in recent months. Like, how dare I? But also, she didn't want to believe that any of that
was true, that he like she was like, "Maybe he's not having an affair." She said later, "We were best friends. We
were very much in love. We were a team." That's so true. Which is really sad that
she thought that because they weren't. Cuz you weren't. And that's awful. It was true that David had been, you know,
seemed more stressed out lately. He even was seeming to snap at her and the kids
more often than he had in the past. But she said it hardly seemed like a reason to think he was having an affair.
But the more she thought about it, the more things started to fall into place. He was more distant than usual. And he
wasn't even just more busy with work. He was busy at home, too. He used to love to come home and sit down and play with
the boys for a few hours, participate in bedtime, that whole thing. But now he seemed far more interested in coming
home and locking himself in his music room where he would just sit around playing piano. Grow up. grew up. It
wasn't just that he was busy. It was like he was busying himself to avoid his family. That's not cool. So that night
after leaving her meeting with Diana, Clara actually called David's mother, Millie Harris, which I think Millie is
the cutest name. It is a really cute name. And she told Millie what she'd learned in the hope that maybe his mom
would know what she could do to salvage their relationship and their marriage. So rather than really share any insider
suggestions though, Millie just succeeded in convincing Clara that her friend had no idea what she was talking
about and there was no way David was having an affair, which you can understand why his mom wouldn't think
that. That's his mom. She's probably like, "No." Yeah. Like not my kid. No, never mind. She was like, "It's natural
for people married or otherwise to find others attractive, maybe even flirt a little bit." But she said David was not
the kind of person who would have a straightup affair. And I mean, she's probably really hoping that that's the
case. I think she's trying to probably convince herself of that as well. Also, if you flirt with other people while
we're married, you're cheating on me. I'm going to fight you. Period. After 45 minutes on the phone with her
mother-in-law, Clara came away pretty relieved, reassured, but then she got home that night and she just couldn't
shake the thought that maybe he was involved with another woman. Yeah, her gut was telling or something. So, the
next morning, she was getting into the shower when David came into the bathroom looking very troubled and she's like,
"What's wrong?" And after struggling to form his thoughts, he confessed that he had indeed been seeing another woman. He
said, "I think that you have to know there's somebody else." Obviously completely shattered by the
confirmation that her husband was definitely having an affair. She ran downstairs to the kitchen where Lindsay
was making breakfast. And it turned out Lindsay already knew her dad had told her.
The relationships here I am without words. The relationships here are without borders.
This is wrong on every level. It can be wrong. Yeah. Like we need some boundaries in these relationships with
our children. [ __ ] Yeah. The the revelation that David not only was having an affair but was having an
affair with an employee at their shared practice was devastating. Clara said he told me there was no intimacy between
them. that he'd just been lonely. Oh, there it is. [ __ ] off. Classic. Mhm. He said, "This is also I'm like, "Fuck
you." Oh, no. He said Gail grew up in the US and they shared a lot in common and it was nice to share that with
someone. So, he looked at his Colombian wife and was like, you know, she's from the US. We have more in common.
[ __ ] you. [ __ ] you. I don't even know how to respond to that. I would look at
him and be like, "We opened several practices together because I'm a successful ass [ __ ] and you have
more in common with your secretary because she's from the US." That is quite possibly the stupidest
thing I have ever heard someone say, especially in reference to like why they were
having an affair. I'm having an affair because she was born on American soil. Because those colors don't run. Okay.
That's why like that's he's essentially saying America. Like what? Yeah. You're saying this to your Colombian wife.
Crazy. Who has built things with you, created a family with you? I'd be like, that's cool. Your children are
Colombian. So what? That's the thing. I'm like, what? That's cool. These two boys that you procreated with me,
Colombian. Like, damn. Cool. Cool that you and Gail have the US in common. It's really nice that you guys are from Can
you imagine looking at anybody and just being like, "We're both from the US, so we have so much in common." What a weird
reason. Frankly, I don't want to have much in common with the US. What a strange ass reason reason. Holy [ __ ] So
that afternoon, David and Clara drove to the office where Clara confronted Gail about the affair. I mean, yeah. Which
like absolutely. Oh, yeah. If you're going to do it without without being physical, absolutely. Yeah. And do it
right away. Gail denied the relationship, but Clara said, "I know you're lying. My husband told me,
"You're fired." Fired her on the spot and demanded that she hand over her keys to the office and get the [ __ ] out of
there. Which like, great. So, at this point, support Yeah. supporting what is happening. Yeah. Then her initial
reaction to David's confession was to start looking for a divorce lawyer, which like let's go, girl. I guess she
This is so frustrating cuz you're like, you're moving in the right direction. I wish you would kept moving in this
direction. But later that day, after the initial shock had worn off, she decided
she didn't want to end her marriage, which I get. You have two [ __ ] babies together. Like, it's got to be the worst
kind of whiplash that you can imagine. And I understand I understand both sides. I understand when you find out
your husband leaves, like has stepped out on you, you get the [ __ ] out of there. And I also understand wanting to
fight for your marriage. Yeah, I get I get all of it. It's it's a horrible horrible situation that is unfathomable
really. The next day, she started the process of making herself over to be more attractive to her husband, which is
really sad. That's devastating. She bought sexy clothes from Victoria's Secret. She scheduled breast
augmentation surgery with a local plastic surgeon. And she bought a book about saving a marriage written by the
one and only Dr. Phil. Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's that's just really sad. It is.
That night, she and David went to a restaurant to talk things over. And while they were there, she pushed her
husband to make a list comparing the attributes of both women. Oh no. So that like she could do better, I think. Oh
no. The lists were long and brutally honest, describing Gail as quote, "no fat, perfect body, and Clara as quote, "a
large person, too big." She gave birth to your [ __ ] children at the same time.
She was pregnant with two human beings. I'm willing to bet, David, you might get
a little [ __ ] bigger. Yeah. When you're growing two circulatory systems, speaking of somebody who has grown
circulatory systems in their body, two two at once. Two at once. Two at once. You got a little bigger. You It's going
to be different after a little bit. And I literally Here's the part where it's like David should not have been killed.
Nope. I'm going to keep saying that because I want to make sure no one takes what I'm saying differently. That is
what I'm saying and it that is what I believe. But that doesn't m mean that he was a
good guy at this point. He wasn't. He was not being a good guy. This is not a good guy in this moment. He might have
been a good guy his whole life. He really took a turn here. This is cruel to do to somebody. It's awful to do to
somebody. Body shaming your wife. If John had ever said to me, you were you're bigger, like made any kind
person too big. Any kind of comment about what I looked like after I gave birth to our twins. Any kind of negative
comment, it would have sent me into [ __ ] orbit because also, yeah, she knows because that [ __ ] is very jarring.
after you have kids and especially after you have multiples, you look different.
And it's like you get out of that shower and you look in the mirror and you go, "Whoa, who's that?" And it's even now I
look at them like, "Wow, you see, it's always different." That's the thing. You look incredible. You have 9year-old
twins, though. Like, but you're always going to look like you I had twins. I had twins. And the thing is, like these
were young boys. Yeah. They're big. It takes a while to get your quote unquote body back. Yeah. If you ever do. My kids
are We're almost a decade in and it's it's different still. It just is. It's never going the way it was before.
There's a lot that goes into it. You have to maintain a certain weight if you want to breastfeed. You have to like
there's a whole bunch of reasons why you don't just snap right now. Also, you shouldn't matter. You should look
different. Yeah. You did something crazy. You should look different and you should
have somebody that is in absolute awe of that is like, "Wow, yeah, your body's amazing. It created two of my favorite
people in the world." Like, that should be the trauma to do so. Yeah. And I And I hate cuz I know there's listeners that
are listening right now who don't have somebody doing that. And you should cuz you're beautiful. Don't kill anyone.
That's never the answer. But you should always have somebody who is saying, "Wow, your body is incredible." And
especially after you give birth, "Your body just created one of my favorite people on planet Earth." Your body just
did a miracle. Your body created a circulatory system. A miracle. Like, [ __ ] off. Large person too big. That's
so sad. And if anybody ever says that to you, you get up and you leave right then. You don't even think about it
twice. I don't have sympathy for the act that she committed by any means. But I have sympathy for her. I have sympathy
for her in this moment cuz I just can't imagine being torn down like that. That would kill me. And postpartum you're
already saying the worst things to yourself. And it's like that's so cruel to do. It's mean. I just wish that this
had gone a different way. Me too. Because like damn. Me too. So despite the obvious uh [ __ ] cruelty of
comparing his wife's looks to those of his mistress. among other things. David and Clara did agree to work on their
marriage with Clara taking most of the blame for him having an affair in the first place and also shouldering the
responsibility of fixing things. A few days later, they went away to the beach for a long weekend and everything seemed
like it was back on track to getting normal. But just two weeks later, David Harris would be dead, crushed to death
under the weight of his wife's Mercedes. Oh man. Yeah. It just escalated so quickly. Yeah.
And I would say that was a lot of information for you guys to digest. So that is where we're going to wrap up.
That's where we're going to wrap for part one. Oh lord. This is just sad and horrible and in every way imaginable.
Yeah. Every single way. Because it's just like none of this needed to happen. No. None of it. No. And again, it's also
like, and I'll state it again. It's not his fault that what happened to him. No.
Um, but if you don't want to be with your significant other, that's cool. Just don't be with them anymore.
Divorce. Affairs never end well. I never understand why people go into them. It's
like just it's not going to end well. It never does. How many affairs have I talked about on this [ __ ] podcast?
Exactly. End it. There'll be sad, hurt feelings, but that's much better than a murder charge and a dead person
involved. Yeah. Like, come on. Yeah. But emotions run so high and humans are wily
creatures. There's also a lot more to this story that we haven't even gotten into yet. So, stay tuned for part two.
It gets wy. Oh, man. And with that being said, we hope you keep listening and we
hope you keep it weird. weird. But that's a way that you hit your husband with a car, even if he didn't cheat on
you. You can't do that. Don't do that. It's really bad. [Music] [Music] [Music]

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Brief Summary

Clara Harris murders her husband David after discovering his affair, leading to a tragic confrontation and emotional fallout.

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Titan Submersible Documentary. A recommendation for HBO's documentary on the Titanic sub disaster.
Astrology Insights. Elena shares her excitement about learning astrology and its relevance.
Clara and Lindsay's Drive. Clara takes her stepdaughter Lindsay on a drive that turns into a hunt for her husband.
Clara's Descent into Rage. Clara's anger escalates as she confronts her husband's infidelity, leading to a shocking outburst.
The Confrontation. Clara confronts Gail in a public hotel lobby, leading to a violent altercation.
Tragic Accident. In a moment of uncontrollable rage, Clara drives her car into her husband, David.

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