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these cases were in fact connected to each other and you go hey you kind of come up with the idea that maybe they're
not connected if there was a connection it's probably between the Bolino case and the Evans case why did you make me
sit through all three well people from Boorman will tell you and anybody that has studied this case on the internet
over the years they know that you can't talk about one of these cases without discussing the other two they kind of
come as a package deal here we got three youths that are killed in a span of just
5 years out of an area of Ohio bardman Ohio with only roughly about 30 31,000 people so a very rare occurrence and it
would be uh we'd be remiss if we didn't speak about all three cases again all three cases still unsolved and from what
we've been told from police is that while they may not be connected we are still under the impression that if we
are able to make an arrest or get information in one case it may provide information or possible leads in the
other cases as well and all three victims deserve for there to be a spotlight on their case correct and we
have a situation here where it's been so many years later decades later and we have loved ones and friends and family
of these victims that are passing away due to time and they've not received the answer nor the justice that they deserve
as well so we are happy to be highlighting and spotlighting these three cases for you last week and again
this week now we are in our final episode episode and as promised we said we would get to suspects but part of
that involves local rumor local speculation and theories so Captain which would you like to dive into first
should we give a roundabout summary of the local theories at the time and the ones that have survived over the decades
and then get into the suspects how would you like to do this yes let's start with
the theories so and I'm sure you have probably heard some in addition to these ones that I'm about to bring up but the
general theories that were going on at the time again these could pertain to one case or all of the
cases but the local theories and rumors in the 70s and the ones that have survived till this day are that a priest
or priests were involved in one if not more of the murders there's been a brown Van Story and other mysterious van
stories that have lasted the the last five decades there's also of course in any of these cases we always talk about
the old pervert Roundup so you're going to have your sexual predators and in local known uh perverts that would be
part of any Theory there's also the quote unquote security guard Theory and I mean really there was when you have
cases that don't have an answer we don't have an arrest they often are going to lead to
public speculation and then let's take that a step F further no let's take it two steps further because we have three
murders in total in five years of course there's going to be local speculation and concern and theories and a lot of
these have again lasted for now five decades well let's start off with the security guard Theory and we know his
name but it'll make sense why we're just going to call him security guard and that's for his own protection correct so
I'm now going to reference Carolyn's article from porchlight online.com and she says there was a
security guard that worked at a place near Brad's house this is where Don templeman says that he and Brad did
spend a lot of time now it sounds like based off of her article that a lot of people in the community thought that he
was a very good suspect in at least the Brad Bolino case and Don templeman even says that he
suspected this man too especially very early on now so a little bit of information from that article about this
security guard is that he liked to talk to boys uh even Brad and Dawn when they would come in he would hang out there
and the boys you know would come in and look at these rocks and geod and whatnot
but he would really chat up the youths while they were there he did have a criminal history
this and at least according to one Boardman officer this security guard had a or security officer had a fascination
with police and possibly even with younger boys or teenage boys now I read up on this guy quite a bit to say that
he had a fascination with police is a bit of an understatement the information that I found that he would go out of his
way to Bri to be police officers try to become buddies with them he even had a an outfit tailored for himself that very
much looked like the local police officer uniform yeah I heard speculation that he actually applied to be a police
officer at one point he did and not only that he was this is this is where it gets even more weird Okay so he applies
to be a police officer I don't know what happens there why he doesn't get the job
what have you sometimes they only need so many people on the force but what he does at some point is he tries to start
up his own Police Department which he calls it he calls it some form and I'm not going to get into too much of the
the details of this but he does call it like some kind of police outfit right like that's what he's advertising and
basically what he's doing it's really when you when you boil it down it's really he's offering he would have been
smarter to call it a security business because that's all it was was he was going around to local businesses and
saying look this is our uniform this is what our car looks like it basically looked like a police cruiser and I've
been trained as a police officer I've worked as a security guard for all these years I'm starting up my own police
force and if your business pays us a monthly fee we will make sure that after hours when you your business is locked
and closed up and and not during business hours we will come around once every hour checking the doors checking
the windows making sure that your business is safe and secure now mind you that's not a horrible business plan
considering it's 1970s right it's the early 70s we don't have our Simply Safe security systems we
don't have our ADT Security Systems uh like we have them today and so if you had an area where you thought that well
my business might be become under attack or I could I could stand to lose a good
deal of money or property damage it might be worth it for me to hire this outfit to come around you know we do
have a police department we have a very good one based off of the information I've seen and how they investigated both
the Bolino case and the Evans case but that doesn't guarantee me that somebody is coming around once an hour to check
on my business but what's idiotic about it is don't call a police department just call it a security right and and so
I think this plan actually worked cuz from what I I heard he didn't just run security as far as the rock and gem shop
but there was other businesses in that area that he was known to be a security officer at so multiple locations uh even
and not being able to confirm but possibly even connected to the plaza where that's important and one of the
reasons why this guy became a suspect was there was a security guard quote unquote not knowing if it's the same
guy that was heavily involved in the bino case and and wanted to know information and he was a security guard
at the plaza I believe the security guard we're talking about and the security guard at the plaza is the same
guy that is correct and then what makes him even more interesting as far as our case
goes is that he is referenced to the Hollywood Florida Police Department as being a potential good suspect for Adam
Walsh's murder and I'm going to read this for you because other than this statement here I can't find good reason
uh to to include him in the Adam Walsh story but this is legit this isn't something that the colonel wrote or that
the captain wrote here this is from uh 1996 and the Palm Beach Post staff writers there's a couple of Staff
writers there that did a a look back on the Adam Walsh case and one thing that they list here is potential suspects
other than Odis tul who ultimately confesses and then there's been a debate ever since in fact if in fact he was the
one that killed Adam Walsh but one of the suspects listed here is our quote unquote security guard
guard that we're talking about from the Youngstown Borman Ohio area back in the 70s he's referencing this thing from
1997 that says last August so 1996 last August so 1995 is when these reporters are saying
Ohio police told Hollywood detectives about this security officer a prime suspect in the 1972 Ohio murder of a and
here's where here's where you hate to see them get facts wrong of a 10-year-old uh they actually talking
about the Bolino case and he was 12 detectives learned that the security officer was arrested in Florida in 1982
1983 and 1985 in December of 1995 they went to Central FL to his Central Florida home
where they believed he lives they have been unable to contact him okay so whatever sketchy Behavior he was up to
in the Borman Ohio area in 7s ultimately leads to him moving not just out of town
but out of state right and then they are referencing him in this Adam Walsh case
as a potential suspect based off of what the Ohio Police Department is telling the Hollywood detectives decades later
and this is based off of they know that sometime after the Boardman cases he moves to there's been several states
that have been referenced as to where he may have moved to South Carolina being one of them and then of course Florida
being one of them because we know that he has arrest according to this statement in Florida one in 1982 1 in 83
and 1 in 85 so police were hot on him for the Bolino case and so much so that it sounds like they were warning other
jurisdictions that had what they deemed to be somewhat similar cases that were unresolved unsolved that hey you should
be aware that this guy is in your area he was a good suspect for us all these years ago and he was in
your area at the time of your unsolved child homicide that you have well he was also convicted of sodomy in Ohio correct
so he was convicted of sodomy and in that area where he was a security guard at multiple locations there was a Shack
or a shed like a work shed he ended up sodomizing a local kid that lived in the neighborhood s to like the bino case
then what happens is they're questioning him in the bino case and a lawyer says hey look how about you give my client a
polygraph test if he passes this test then obviously he didn't do the bino murders you have to then drop the
charges in the sodomy case correct so the lawyer then sets up a lie detector but it's all done underneath the the
lawyer's supervision they use their guy and what I heard from um local sources was he passed the test and since the
police chief which I don't know why he ever agreed to this had to then drop the sodomy charges I heard from again from
local sources saying that once the local cops reviewed the results of the lie detector
based on the way they give live lie detector tests that he would have failed that yeah so let's do a little followup
here before we move on from the security officer and this is kind of a good news
bad news scenario but that information that we were just talking about in the Adam Walsh case well that was from 1996
so now let's fast forward over 20 years later to an article that ran in the Youngstown Vindicator the title of this
is new DNA testing being used in effort to develop leads into 1972 murder case the body of 12-year-old Bradley Bolino
was found in a dumpster behind the Boardman Plaza again this is from 2018 written by John Darnell Jr and this
is some good reporting right here Captain this says more than 46 years ago from the date of this article
12-year-old Bradley Bolino left home at noon apparently walking to the home of a
friend Don templeman in Applewood Acres a criminal complaint obtained by the Boardman news says that about 7:30 p.m.
on March 31st the boy failed to return home the following day Debbie Bolino notified police at about 3:20 p.m. that
Bradley was missing 3 days later at 8:02 a.m. on April 4th employees with very Bros trash company called police saying
they found a body in a dumpster behind the Boardman Plaza patrolman Glenn Bowers answered the call and the body
was identified as the Bolino boy a belt from JC Penny was found strapped around his neck the strap bore teeth marks and
body fluid not Bradley bolinos This was later discovered on the boy's pants on April 12th 1972 then
Mahoning County coroner this is the Dr binki that we've talked about ruled B ruled Bradley bolo's death as the result
of strangulation Dr Blinky said the interval between the onset of death and actual death was sudden death
certificate certified by the doctor said Bolino died on April 1st 1972 around 9 p.m. little more than 24 hours after he
was last seen 46 years later the Boardman Police Department is using new forms of DNA testing in hopes of
developing new leads in the case the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Identification has already completed some tests and we
have sent samples to a laboratory in Virginia for additional testing this is a statement by police chief Todd worth
testing done by BCI which is the Ohio Bureau of criminal investigation or sorry Criminal
Identification measured results against upwards of 700,000 DNA samples in a database in
Ohio as well as against millions of DNA samples in a federal database quote we are now looking at familial DNA to see
if we can develop a new lead in the case end quote for years the Bolino case stood dormant until 2001 when the
Boardman Police Department Revisited the case and could not develop any new leads
sources suggest a list of at least 20 possible suspects was developed quote only four or five of those people seem
to stand out this according to the police captain one man who was reportedly been eliminated from the
suspect list in the Bolino case is now said to be living in South Carolina according to court records that man was
indicted by a Mahoning County grand jury in July of 1971 for the rape of a Boardman boy his name is given here but
there's no reason to to give it on our podcast former Boardman PD detective Robert rup rup was one of the guys that
worked this case for years uh if not decades he says in this article he was stunned when the indict was dismissed
this is referencing what you talked about there captain and this is just Bizarro stuff he was stunned when the
indictment was dismissed February of 1973 by then Mahoning County Common Police judge Clyde Osborne was the one
that dismissed it and then we have Dave Hartsock who says our police chief at the time made a deal with the man's
attorney that if his client passed a polygraph test then that indictment would be dismissed the polygraph test
was conducted by Charlie Brunswick of the Youngstown Police Department according to this article and that is
rup who is saying that in the article right but its results were disputed by another Youngstown PD officer another
source said the polygraph had been arranged by the suspect's defense attorney who is now deceased and then we
have the officer telling Boardman news and The Vindicator that quote totally unethical
end quote according to the officer so yes that is that is that I mean we have that weird scenario of what you said
where the security officer he is somebody they were very much interested in in the Brad Bolino case based off of
the charge he had from 1971 and based off of the recent homicide of the Bolino kid and then being able to connect him
to that Boardman Plaza area Don templeman's story of yes this was an individual that we knew that we spoke to
that chatted us up while we were at in this rock store in this geode store and for whatever reason I guess the captain
or or the uh Chief at the time must have believed that they were in a can't lose
situation right that this is our Prime Suspect I'm convinced he did it there's no way in hell that he's passing a
polygraph test sure we'll make a deal with the devil right and if you pass the polygraph I guess we'll drop this
indictment charge now we o don't know the specifics of that sodomy charge I I do want to throw something out there
this the detective calling it totally unethical gives us some insight obviously as to his feelings on the case
and maybe they did have a good case in that 1971 situation but we also may have a
situation where the prosecutor's telling the chief of police look we really don't
have anything on this charge so you can't really lose anything if you throw it on the table and wager it against the
results of this polygraph because if he fails this polygraph we're going to tear
his life apart and we're going to figure out evidence in connecting him to the Bolino case and ultimately we want to
solve the murder and and we'll figure it out as we go boom that gets all screwed
up because someone at least convinces the judge enough that this guy passed the polygraph and he goes away he moves
away to Florida South Carolina now in this man's defense and the reason why the captain and I have chosen not to
name the security officer is that based off of this article and other articles that we've seen when they were working
on this DNA it doesn't match his the DNA that they have in the Bolino case does not match the security officer does that
completely eliminate him probably not there's a scenario there's scenarios where he could be involved and didn't
leave his DNA on the victim right but as as far as the evidence goes they have DNA that's going to be their best
evidence in getting an actual arrest and an actual conviction and that evidence does not lead you to this security
officer but that security officer is still a giant pile of [ __ ] correct correct he's a horrible person and and
it's sad that they made that deal because then a victim another victim and his family they don't get the Justice
they should have got and just like the detective said in that article totally [Music]
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I have some information prepared on some of these as with others not so much because I I went sniffing around and
didn't find much on a couple of these but one of the local rumors that has stood the test of time was the priest
angle that either a priest was involved in one of these cases or priests plural which is hard for me to say was were
involved in one or more of these cases yeah supposedly there was a local Catholic priest in the area not not far
blocks away kind of a flashy dresser also had a pretty nice car he came from money so he wasn't making that money by
being a priest he he had that money from old family money the rumor was always that he looked at teenage boys in in a
very odd way on that priest angle so I had a lot more information in the Evans case compared to the other cases I know
that we referenced a story last week called 51 weeks I recommended that you go to that website and check out the
Boardman story that that that author put together that story it tells you up front that it's a fictionalized version
of the Borman murders case one of the theories that the author puts forward is this priest these priests that may have
been working together been up to no good and maybe responsible for one or more of
the murders now what I could find in the especially in the Evans case is that they didn't look at any priest the Evans
case and the Bolino case they had if you want to call them suspects go ahead they
had hundreds of names of individuals that they were looking at again we had people in the community that were just
calling in going hey that guy strange go check them out you know a lot of these people came onto their radar with really
no information or no actual evidence against them at all so if you want to call them suspects if their name appears
in the file for somebody that the police looked at you can call them that but what I'm here to tell you is there were
dozens and dozens and dozens of people that they had their names that they didn't have any evidence on it was just
simply somebody called in with something and the police followed up on it out of
of all of the names that I have been able to view and review myself none of them were priests so while you had that
local rumor and then you have this fictionalized story that comes out all these years later that kind of continues
that local rumor with the priest it doesn't seem like it was anything other than just rumor or an angle the captain
referenced something more specific which could be an angle that held a little more weight in one of the cases or maybe
the Bolino and the Evans case now I can say in David evans's case while there were no priests that were looked at
there was certainly a pastor that they looked at quite heavily they spent a lot of time and a lot of resources on this
Lutheran pastor and the reason why they did so was this was a man that really kind of injected himself into not
necessarily the investigation you know we talk about that so many times with serial killers and these other cases
that are out there that these offenders when police have no lead they might inject themselves into the investigation
this guy injected himself into the Evans Family where he was trying to make a connection with David evans's father and
the way that this works out is that the person he worked for and I I don't know the I don't want to go through the rank
of pastors and Priests and things like that because it's something I don't know nor understand but the pastor that he
worked for this guy was more of like an assistant pastor at the time that individual was the one that oversaw the
funeral services for David Evans this assistant pastor makes his presence at the funeral services but he's not
required to be there and then days later he writes this rather lengthy letter to David evans's father
telling him you know how bad he feels and how he felt some weird connection to the Evans boy and how he followed the
case the newspaper before he was found and then he was just heartbroken after he was found and he goes on and on and
on would it be totally out of character for a priest or a pastor or somebody from a church to approach or right to a
family that has just gone through the most horrific life experience that you could imagine losing your child at the
age of 12 or 13 and reach out and say hey I'm think thinking of you I'm praying for you right I I I think your
boy was something special and that the world is a lesser place because he's no longer in the world we talked about
David evans's difficulties that he had some of his physical difficulties that he had that he was overcoming the kid
was an inspiration would it be totally out of character for a pastor to say look you might be in a very dark place
right now I'm letting you know that when you are ready you have a home here or you have someone you can talk to here
maybe the healing can begin here maybe we can help with that absolutely not I'm surprised it doesn't happen in every one
of these cases that we have reviewed so on that end I applaud the pastor however
some of the police and some of the detectives were weirded out by this guy enough that they did a pretty thorough
investigation on him I will say this though Captain one thing that I found bizarre in having read that letter that
he gave to De David evans's father father is the lipstick he put on it no the I just assume that would be part of
it right doesn't that come with every letter and the perfume he sprayed on the letter he references a check or some
kind of money that he gave to the Evans family and again could just be somebody that's willing to help that kind of
seemed a little out of character for for a pastor or a priest I thought but no I
don't think that's odd because what they might have done is at like a Wednesday service or maybe even a Sunday service
they they take up a collection for the family that that's not too odd to me so what they do is Boardman PD they're so
off-put by this letter or maybe not off-put just doing their due diligence and taking it the extra step and being
very thorough with their investigation they send this letter off to an expert and say hey we can't make heads or tails
of this what do you make of it and so it takes days if not weeks for them to get
back the expert analysis of the letter and unfortunately the expert analysis is exactly what you would have come up with
Captain and what I would have come up with where you read this letter and go well on one hand I can see this guy's
just trying to be helpful and on the other hand I can maybe there's something bigger here maybe there's some something
evil lurking behind all these kind words yeah the problem with text anytime is that you don't get to hear tone you
don't get to hear the tamber of the voice and that's exactly what the the analysis was the result was hey this
guy could just be very nice and welcoming you to his church and to his Parish or there's something hidden in
all these nice words we can't really tell so the the uh the expert analysis doesn't really provide much in my
opinion that that any of us else wouldn't have come up with but again it's being thorough and it's looking
into all the different angles in the these cases and I want that statement that statement should Echo what we were
saying last week yes these cases are unsolved yes it's been a long time but I do not think for a second that it's
because of a lack of effort on Boardman Police Department's behalf and I say that too because we now know based off
of 2001 they were looking into the Bolino case again based off of that article we know that they have DNA that
is not the victim's DNA in the Bolino case that's suspect DNA they are actively comparing that to local state
and federal databases they've not found a match we're now working the familial angle with the DNA and hoping to come up
and find our suspect in the Bolino case using that new method and technology so that's many local rumors but that's not
even the end of it no it's not so there's one and this is kind of called the old Bob story so law enforcement
discussed other rumors of men in town that people called police to report as possible suspects there was a quote Old
Bob who lived near Applewood Acres on the corner of Matthews Road in Glenn Ridge who kept cases of beer and
marijuana that he'd give to young boys in the neighborhood in return for sexual favors he was arrested a few times he is
now since passed away but he was a local suspect at the time but the police go on
to say in Carolyn's article quote there were a lot of those types of things out there and quote there was a
projectionist at the theater in the bardman plaza near isley's Dairy that chased around young boys there was a
pizza shop in at Southern Boulevard in Indianola where a man worked and tried to trade pizza for sexual favors that
better be some damn good pizza and as far as the brown van that we talked about right Don templeman remembers a
brown van this is Brad's best friend a brown van following him and Brad around the day that Brad later disappeared law
enforcement said that there were hundreds of vehicles people reported in connection to Brad's murder not just the
brown van they go out of their way to reference an orange Corvette I had seen an orange Charger referenced in a couple
of things as well as other dark colored Vans and a red Ford truck I mean there's
just no end to the amount of vehicles that were listed in the Bolino case of possible vehicles of Interest the police
are saying none of those tips led to anything but dead ends but again A lot of times they're not getting the best of
information right they're not saying hey I saw the I saw the captain driving his
uh Psychobilly Cadillac down the road and here's the license plate no they're they're not getting that they're getting
I saw a guy driving a brown van or I saw a a mysterious or strange or an odd red
truck you know and so there's not a whole lot you can do with that other than catalog that information and then
later when you're reviewing your suspects do your suspects have any ties to vehicles that match those
descriptions right and and again cross reference some of these rumors because back to the the priest like we said he
was known to be a flashy dresser and drive a nice car now what somebody's definition of a nice car it varies so
did he have some sports car did he have a orange Charger did he have a orange Corvette possibly but that brown van I
think is also connected to those local rumors of that Treehouse that I was telling you about yeah and the thing
that's scary about the brown van is Don templeman's own work who he says look I've always been and will remain to be
suspicious of that brown van to this very day and he says you know I I remember this van passing us three or
four times and he said that he can't help but Wonder All These Years Later did Brad leave his home and was he then
again followed now he's by himself followed Again by this brown van whoever's in the brown van however many
people we don't know they wait for him to get to dark spot or a spot where they don't think anybody's going to see
anything go down and they either offer him a ride or grab him and pull him into the van what we know about Bradley is
that he would accept rides so if that's connected to the Treehouse if it's connected to this guy that would offer
money and other things for sexual favors that kind of goes with my theory of what
I believe happened to to Bradley and that will bring us to yet another suspect and I feel fine naming this
individual and it will become clear why here shortly but this is actually from a
Youngstown Vindicator article from January 20th 1975 so what's going on at that time well we already have the two
homicides that took place years earlier but during this time frame David Evans is missing he his body has not been
found yet it won't be found until the 23rd this article comes out on Jan January 20th so we can make the
assumption that all of the information in this article if it's not dated it was from the 19th or prior to that so the
article reads May link suspect to two boys deaths and as you will hear here that they are still trying to parse out
and trying to decipher if we have a situation where uh some of these deaths and murders are connected so the article
reads Boardman and Stow Police are attempting to link the death of a 14-year-old old akan boy whose skeleton
was found in Stow Ohio on November 15th with the brutal death of Bradley Bolino aged 12 whose body was found April 4th
1972 the connection may be a Kent man who is being held in lie of bond in Summit County for kidnapping a
13-year-old akan boy there assaulting him at the Barnett's Motel on November 2nd and then assault ing him again in
mil Creek Park on November 3rd and stabbing him the Bolino youth had been sexually assaulted and strangled he had
been missing from home 5 days and then they say found in the woods detective Robert Brisbane of the Stow Police
Department said this morning the body of the akran lad was found in a wooded area
in the city's Southeast section there was no sign of clothing on the boy and identific ation had to be made through
dental records Brisbane said homicide has not been ruled in the akan death however quote we're treating the
investigation like a homicide end quote detective Steve bog of the Boardman police said the two departments began
attempting to make the link about a week ago but were interrupted with The Disappearance of another young boy David
Evans diabetic son of Mr and Mrs Peter Evans was last seen walking home Friday Brisbane said the Kent man was given a
polygraph test but it proved inconclusive he said their investigation is continuing and the Kent man who may
have Boardman ties still is quote a suspect this next part of the article is titled in custody by November 5th
authorities have ruled out the suspect in the Evans incident since he has been in custody since November 5th after the
mil Creek Park Incident the body of Bolino the body of the Bolino lad was found in
1972 when a refuge pickup man went to the rear of the Isley Dairy Store to pick up the dumpster a belt was drawn
around his neck and his clothing disarrayed so his upper torso was partially bare and his trousers below
his hips the individual they are referencing in this article is clearly a very dangerous individual and somebody
that they already had in custody by November 5th so they're going out of their way to let us know there's no way
that this person if responsible for Bradley bolo's murder he could not have been involved in the David Evans murder
because we already had him locked up at the time that Evans went missing right well essentially if you look at the the
beard case the Bolino case and the Evans case you could take a character like this somebody that was from a
neighboring area that maybe would go to a smaller area to drive drive around and
look for victims you could make an argument in the beard case that maybe he wasn't there wasn't some confrontation
from somebody at the skating rink that somebody tried to abduct him and he didn't go willingly and that's what
ultimately caused his death but a character like this could be responsible for all three murders so the individual
that we are discussing is a man named Richard Lawler now he is an interesting one and I think that not only do we have
the police at the time back in 1975 saying look we were investigating Lawler for a possible connection to the Bradley
Bolino case all these years later when you review his known crimes and then apply the suspected crimes that he may
or may not have been involved in to that he certainly becomes an excellent suspect because we know he was active at
the time of bolo's murder so I'll read a little bit from cleveland.com to tell you who this Richard Lawler is
and thankfully he's in prison and he still remains there to this day it says Lawler string of crimes began in
November of 1974 or known string of crimes began in November of 1974 this when he was 21 years old he abducted a
13-year-old boy in akan and took him to a Salem Motel So you you're going to hear some of the things that were
referenced in that last article that we reviewed in this newer article and it says they're offering more detail
here and I apologize for these details but it says at that Motel he tied the boy up and stabbed him several
times it actually says it he later tied him to a tree and stabbed him and cut the child several times the boy was
still naked at the time a passing jogger in the park ended up scaring the attacker away ended up scaring Lawler
away I am of the firm belief captain that Lawler would have murdered this kid had he not been interrupted Lawler then
struck again in September of 1975 this time he this time he abducted a seven-year-old victim from Akin's
Kenmore area and took the boy to the woods behind the akan Baptist Temple the victim who is now 50 years old this
article is a couple years old sent a letter to the police to the I'm are the prosecutor's office describing what
happened he told prosecutors that Lawler asked him to help find his lost puppy Lawler then lowed the boy into the woods
where he punched the child in the face knocked him unconscious stripped his clothes and was shouting that it was the
boy's fault for whatever Lawler was doing to him and that he would have to kill him Lawler then choked him
unconscious again and left him in the woods for dead now what we have here Captain is these are a couple of attacks
that this man he was very much a young man at the time in the mid-70s these are some attacks that he committed and the
victims Got Away now if if I say if I would encourage all of you to go to block parole.com it's a website that
we've referenced before here in the garage block parole.com where you can sign up and sign the petition to uh
encourage the state of Ohio to block individuals parole and specifically I would recommend that you sign up to
block Richard Lawler's potential parole my understanding is that uh the last time he came up for possible parole he
was denied and his next hearing I believe or possibility will be 2028 don't quote me on that I don't have it
in my notes but at the end of the day what we learn about this this individual is he he has killed he has killed a a
young boy that would fall into very similar victimology to some of the boys that we've been talking about in the
Boardman case we know he was active in the Youngstown area at the time with abduction with rape sexual assaults
murder what have you and again the victimology seems to line up with that of the Evans boy and the Bolino kid and
so he is someone that I think is an interesting potential suspect we do have prosecutors that were at his uh parole
hearing that did tell everyone hey this guy after we locked him up for one murder and for all these other assaults
that he did he told law enforcement that he has killed five or six other kids now
we don't know if that's true obviously or they would have convicted him of those cases he told law enforcement that
this was not his only murder victim and again we know he was active in this general area around this General time so
I think he falls into a good suspect and double down that we know he was looked at in
1975 for the Bolino murder so he was somebody that was on their radar and luckily for all of us he's been locked
up ever since well you have to take his claim serious and the reason why is what
we've learned through the last 500 and some episodes is normally serial killers are not going to admit to Child Murders
now you got this guy that you locked up and you convicted on a child murder and he's telling you hey I've I've killed
more children yeah and one thing I don't want to add more scary elements to already a scary story here but pictures
of Richard Lawler from the mid 70s when we have these pictures because he was in
court facing these charges his picture was taken by the papers at the time and of course when he was arrested as well
he is a young looking dude and I know that he's 21 22 24 in all the pictures that I've
reviewed he is a youngl looking dude and what I mean by that and why I think that's scary especially in the Bolino
case where we have a kid that was known to hitchhike again that's just my theory
we don't know that that's what happened but we have a kid that was known to hitchhike admittedly by his parents and
friends if a guy pulled up and he looked like a teenager offered somebody a ride
I think that I think that lets your guard down a little bit it's less threatening yeah look up pictures of
Richard Lawler go you don't have to go to block parole.com sign that petition you'll see pictures of him there and
block his parole and I tell you what if this guy pulled up even if he was 23 24 at the time he could have passed for 16
or 17 even behind the wheel of a vehicle offering a ride to somebody else another
suspect where his known crimes are similar and that kind of characteristic his his profile that that kind of person
could be responsible for all three murders let's get into another suspect well yeah we're going to go from one
really scary terrible horrible person to just another demon that happened to be roaming this country and this is a man
named Wayne Chapman now some of our true crime friends out there will know this name others this might be a newer name
to you but this guy is a Serial child sex offender okay this is an individual that committed sexual acts against
children time and time again repeatedly throughout the course of his almost entire lifespan he started assaulting
other kids when he was just a kid himself and it carried on well into his adult years and I believe if he wasn't
locked up he was looking to assault children was he a murderer that's certainly up for a debate but this is an
individual that was highly involved in in producing child pornography and selling it to other
individuals he was also he was also busying his time trying to lure children away and he was he had a preference he
had a preference for boys and as far as I could see all of his known crimes were
against boys now he was an individual that was locked up for a decent amount of time he does get charged at some
point and the reason why he pops on the radar is based off of again proximity to
Borman Ohio and also his admitted information that he gives to police what we have here Captain is a situation he's
driving he had this van and I don't want to give a description of this van because I've been given a few different
descriptions of this van and supposedly he used the same van for years and years
and years and I don't want to throw it out there not knowing which one is more accurate it uh I have two kind of
different descriptions of this van but what I do know is that at some point he's pulled over and when he's pulled
over the police officer notices a bunch of strange pictures inside this man's van and these are pictures of him with
boys and these are there are dozens of these pictures well again #b thean and I believe it's also possibly other
individuals whose faces were not so he ran around in these Rings these child perpetrator horrible offenders he ran
around with some other guys that were into the same things that he was into and so when they arrested him they ended
up charging him with a local crime and this took place in another state when they arrested him however when they find
all these dozens and dozens of pictures they're going how many horrible things has this guy been involved in and when
they start talking to him they're like you know we want to know where you've been what you've been up to uh
especially since you've been an adult because I believe he was kind of a a younger adult at the time maybe 30s when
he got arrested again this case is so big and there's so many notes I'm I'm failing to find the the piece of
information that I wanted to be able to spout here for you but well don't worry your pay will be deducted thank you and
I know that he has ties to many other states we're talking Rhode Island New York Pennsylvania possibly Illinois I
mean it's Ohio it's all over the map now what I did was I ended up hearing this individual his name is uh David McGrath
and he wrote a book on Wayne Chapman some of you may know Wayne Chapman's name from David's book some of you may
know Wayne Chapman's name from there was a an old case and an old documentary I believe it was called have you seen Andy
and it's about an old disappearance case of a 10-year-old boy from Lawrence who disappeared Without a Trace
in 1976 the victim's name is Andy Pugi so some of you may have seen that documentary I believe it's probably
about 15 years old at this point but it's a very good documentary I recommend it the documentary claims that Wayne
Chapman is the prime suspect in the disappearance of this Andy kid and it's I say claims because there are police
that say yes he's somebody we would look at or did look at but we don't really know how he came onto our radar so I
don't know how Prime of a suspect he actually is but the documentarian did a great job on piecing together Andy story
as well as possible connections to Wayne Chapman and then you have David's book monster the life and crimes of Wayne
Chapman he goes on to explain again why this guy's a good suspect in this CA in in this case in this crime and how he
could be tied to others I spoke with David David told me that around the time period of these Boardman murders that
Wayne Chapman lived in Oil City Pennsylvania Oil City Pennsylvania is in Western Pennsylvania bman Ohio is in
eastern Ohio for those of you that own a map you will know that the Ohio State touches the border of
Pennsylvania and so the proximity between Oil City and Borman Ohio it's not a terribly big distance and the
other thing too well hold on let me unfold my map real quick the other thing too is David points out that Chapman had
a lot of ties not just based off of that statement that he provided to police when he was arrested that hey I've been
to all these other cities and I've lived and stayed for a period of time in some
of these other cities and other states but David points out in his book that this guy ran around with guys that were
in other states that were doing things that that he was doing as well as probably some things that were even
worse if you can imagine even worse than what Wayne Chapman was doing or was capable of and that he believes that
it's through him creating and producing this child pornography and then selling it to people that he made these
connections in these friendships and so who knows how far and how wide the evil tentacles of
this Wayne Chapman monster would span over the course of time and distance again another good
suspect it's it's the profile of the person and and and initially I think law enforcement when these crimes happen
they start looking at people that that they've already arrested we've seen this in the deli case we've seen this in the
Amy mahalic or or John Ramsey when there's crimes against children they start looking at who has already
committed crimes and who can fit that profile initially and there's a lot of suspects that you could again make a
very intelligent argument that could be responsible for all these as long as they were not arrested at the time
obviously and I'll tell you what I actually located some of my notes while you were speaking there Captain Chapman
was arrested in New York York state in 1976 and it was after that arrest shortly after that arrest that he
admitted to sexually assaulting at least 15 boys and he put those ages between 7
and 10 and from locations of Providence Brockton Webster uh Concord Norwich and then in communities in
Pennsylvania New York and Virginia I mean the list goes on and on and on this case becomes complex because there are
three cases and then the first question is are they connected but I I think we should just we we probably could talk
about this case for another few hours Let's Go Case by case and and and go over what you think happened so let's
start with the beard case so with the Thomas beard case I think that it's probably just what police have told us
that that they they've locked into this Theory over the years that he was attacked by a peer or his peers and that
it was probably an unintentional homicide that he was killed as a result of that attack and as we said earlier
he's found later found and then placed in the hospital I actually if you know if I had to make Wagers on these cases I
actually think that probably all three of them are not connected if there is a connection it would be between the
Bolino and Evans case I'm kind of locked in on my thought that Bolino probably accepted a ride or was even looking for
a ride on his way home and he just got in the wrong vehicle and don't don't anybody come at me and say I'm victim
blaming here um I'm just saying that that's what I think happened and I don't think that he put himself in a bad
position I think that that's just unfortunately what happened maybe somebody like Richard Lawler picked him
up or somebody like Wayne Chapman or one of Chapman's goon friends picked them up
or it could be any other weirdo I I I see a sadistic nature to the Bolino case where I would believe that a Richard
Lawler type would be more likely to have committed that crime the Evans case is is very difficult for me to put an
opinion on other than the fact that I believe 100% that this kid was abducted based off of the Hat being stomped into
the ground the location in which he was last seen in the time frame I really believe that somebody grabbed him
there's a chance that given the neighborhood and in the lay of the land that it would be it would be better
suited and more likely that two individuals were involved in the Abduction of David Evans now were they
of the sadistic nature that the the killer was of Brad Bolino I don't know we because he gets sick at some point
and then he dies he slips into this coma at some point and dies so we don't know
it's really too hard to and too difficult to decipher what would have happened if that had not happened would
they have let him go or would there be no sexual assault at all it's very difficult to say what took place in that
situation my gut with the Evans thing tells me that someone or some ones may have bit off more than they
could chew right that they took they took this kid and maybe they took him for reasons other than murder and I
really wish I just really wish that this would have been ruled a homicide I know
that the Boardman Police Department treated the investigation as such but I really wish that this would have been
ruled a homicide I'll start with the beard case I agree with you it's probably an individual or multiple
individuals my problem with it is that if there's multiple individuals they're more likely to have more rumors maybe
somebody confesses to being there but not being really a part of it I believe somebody heard something whether that's
a rumor or a confession maybe you're drinking with your friend one night and he confesses to be there somebody has
heard something somebody has seen something and if you saw something you should be saying something enough you
know enough is enough do not protect these people whether you think it was an accident or not uh or or a situation
that just got out of hand this child died didn't get to pursue a life one victim becomes many victims because of
his family friends and all of his loved ones so again I think some somebody saw something they need to say something as
far as the bino case goes I think Don's got feeling about this brown van is correct and if that brown van is
connected to the Treehouse and those rumors I think that makes some sense older gentlemen or maybe even uh uh late
teens offers some booze offers some money offers whatever for sexual favors it gets out of hand again a
12-year-old can't consent that is rape this person is rapist this person is murderer I think another situation where
somebody probably knows more and they just haven't ever spoke up about it maybe out of fear maybe out of shame
maybe they were a person that did sexual favors for money or drugs or whatever and and they're not coming forward
because of the shame again I think somebody knows something more I think we're going to be lucky in this case
because of the DNA and by the testing that I think we're going to get answers in this case and 100% agree with you on
the Evans case I think the the intent probably was rape and murder and they just never got to that because of his
medical condition but but it's sad and again there's three kids that didn't get to go on in and create a future and who
knows what they would have become and I feel very bad espec in the bino case because there's misinformation I think
mhm and some kind of confusion and that might just because time passed and people
misremember but that has to be very difficult on his family because of there's three cases within a small
location similar profiles as far as victimology there's a lot of good suspects I think those individuals that
we mentioned are probably responsible for a lot more crimes especially when you're a young boy and you're
molested there there's a a shame and the the reason why a lot of these boys don't
come forward and if you were one of these kids you shouldn't be ashamed of this is not your fault that any of this
stuff would have happened to you and and hopefully you can seek out you know Justice or seek out therapy to to get
you through all that but I mean it's a yes and with the Bolino case I I really firmly believe captain that the the
discrepancy in the stories only really remains in the Public's mind I think that there's Clarity amongst the
detectives and officers that invest investigated the Bolino case in the 70s that remains with them and in their file
I think they have a pretty clear understanding of what happened that Friday and that Saturday they just don't
need to tell us all that information because again that case is heating up again 20 8 they tell us hey we're
checking familial DNA and it appears that that's continuing to this day so they don't want to let a lot of that
information out so I'm very hopeful on that end I'm glad that you brought up the van the Don templeman Van story
again because one thing that I failed to mention with this Wayne Chapman character and we mentioned his van but I
didn't give a description of such the description of of his van is not terribly unlike the description the very
vague broad description that Don templeman provided to police and the media back then and what's interesting
about that angle to me is that I've been told a couple different things one that
Chapman Chapman was fully on Boardman PD's radar at some point in the 70s or the 80s at some point it's hard for me
to say exactly when he became or or was on their radar but I was told two different reasons why he was on their
radar one was simply that they were calling other jurisdictions and trying to find crimes that they thought were
matching the ones that they were unable to solve in Boardman the other version of that same story is that
Chapman was on their radar because his van or a description that's very similar to the van that he was later arrested in
was mentioned in the Bolino and possibly the Evans case so that's really interesting there on that angle
I'm with you Captain I I think that we we have similar thoughts and theories on this I'm hoping others will provide
Theirs to us on the blog at true Crim garage.com if you have any information at all and any of these three homicides
please contact the Boardman Police Department their phone number is 330 726 4144 and I just want to give a quick
shout out because like I said by covering this case last week the information that has poured in I I just
want to thank those people for reaching out those local sources and people like Caroline Bernardino and Tom carrian for
reaching out and and being able to discuss the case in more details and I just want to applaud them for their
effort to keep uh a spotlight on this [Music] case [Music] thank you so much for joining us here in
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recommending Monster by David McGrath so this this is called Monster the life and
crimes of Wayne Chapman and the Machine he fed in the 1970s young boys went missing at an alarming rate in the New
England region parents and police were stumped by all of the cases of missing boys while David McGrath he spent years
investigating Wayne Chapman and Wayne Chapman's friends in the circles that he ran in and I highly recommend that you
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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the unsolved murders of three boys in Boardman, Ohio, focusing on suspects and local theories.

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Spotlighting Unsolved Cases. Highlighting three unsolved murders in Ohio and the need for justice.
New DNA Testing Efforts. Police are using new DNA testing to develop leads in the Bolino murder case.
The Unethical Deal. A detective calls out the unethical nature of a plea deal that leads to another victim.
The Polygraph Gamble. A risky deal hinges on a polygraph test that could change everything.
The Mysterious Pastor. A pastor's odd behavior raises suspicions in the investigation of a young boy's murder.

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