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[Music] [Music] [Applause] all right Captain last episode we were starting to get into some of the
physical evidence collected against Scott anding these cases against him regarding these missing
persons one of the items we have yet to hit on is it involves his phone records so this reveals to law enforcement that
Scott the last person he spoke to on the evening of February 17 2003 was missing
person Jennifer Markham then his phone went offline until February 20th Scott maintained that he had gone to the
mountains for several days and turned his cell phone off this is the same story that he kind of gave regarding
Casey but detectives noted that Jennifer's phone was also inactive for the same 3-day period of time after that
there were calls made from Jennifer's phone this to Scott and to several other people this is before it went offline
permanently now to the investigators it seemed obvious that Scott was using Jennifer's phone for the
purpose of misdirecting law enforcement in an attempt to make it appear as if she was still alive for some period of
time after she went missing but we still have other crimes other murders to discuss we have
evidence in the Leanne Emery disappearance Leanne's car was found abandoned with all of her stuff in it in Eastern
Utah but Leanne was nowhere to be found receipts for credit card charges to her card made in California bore a signature
that was not her handwriting detectives spoke to the unnamed inmate who knew Scott in prison the one who gave them
the information about how Casey had been killed this inmate told them that Scott
said that he killed Leanne while they were hiking in Bryson Canyon in eastern Australia Scott said that he had
stripped her nude or had her strip nude kneel down and he shot her in the head execution style now Captain you know
how this POS Scott operates right he has an answer for everything Scott told detectives that he did not kill Leanne
he said that members of a drug gang were the ones that had executed her and he was only a witness but he didn't could
go to law enforcement he didn't get involved and even though he's already involved with the FBI he doesn't tell
them I witnessed a murder he he only has to make up the story when confronted with something
that he told somebody else right now remember the terrible this this Ang ERS and saddens
me like you wouldn't believe remember the terrible accident on the ranch I'm talking about the
accident when Scott's 10-year-old son Justin when a 200 lb metal great quote fell on him right you can see photos of
this little boy in the hospital on Dat line and it's it's pretty horrible so in a stroke of bad luck for Scott but truly
a blessing after 2 weeks in a coma his son woke up and was able to tell what he remembered he says his father told him
to turn around and dig a hole near this great and then all of a sudden the great
fell on him then he remembered being in the Jeep remember Scott is driving the son to the hospital he remembers being
in the Jeep and he says on the way to the hospital my dad Scott he's pushing me by the face pushing me out of the
vehicle by the face yeah I mean this is just when you said it the first time oh here's this horrible accident then
Scott's going to drive his son to the hospital and on the way the kid falls out of the car you go something's not
right here yeah you can't it's what a coincidence that you would have two near-death accidents back to back that
day I can understand that sometimes this stuff happens in a state of a panic maybe you're rushing trying to get him
to the hospital but with this guy not with this guy they're not these types of coincidence these two failed attempts of
murder so the Baler County Prosecutors Boulder [ __ ] thank you Unfortunately they did not feel that they had enough
to actually Charge Scott with with what looks very much like an attempted murder
of his son this is in part because doctors indicated that his head injuries were so
severe they would not consider him to be a reliable Witness that is so [ __ ] though these might not be reliable
memories that he has of course we're no idiots and we can see all this other stuff together that that that's probably
very likely what happened and I know the prosecutors felt the same way and were very saddened that they could not bring
this type of charge against this man we should also point out and it's no coincidence that at the time of this
accident there was a $60,000 life insurance policy on the little boy was Scott listed as the sole
beneficiary yeah okay but hear me out why don't you just want to roll the dice I'm
listening roll the dice right we have we have two like I said two attempts of murdering this 10-year-old boy mhm and
yes maybe his memory is not maybe he's not going to be um maybe he's not going to be received
as super credible but once you stack on the other piece of evidence that we have a motive
the motive being a $60,000 payout for the death of this child roll the dice cuz what you what do you have
to lose well couple of things and we talked about this a few weeks ago you do run the risk of the double jeopardy
charge where where maybe at some point you actually do believe that you have the ER evidence to charge and convict
him and if you try him now and you can't successfully convict him you can't try him again later what I guarantee you
this is what my gut tells me and I would bet this man's beef Farm on it not my own Farm because this guy's a liar but
uh I bet you what happened Captain is behind closed doors they probably did take a chance because like you said what
do you have to lose this is what they probably took a chance on let's Tell Scott that we know exactly what the hell
he was doing and see if it scares him enough that he's willing to plea to it or to a lesser charge right cuz you know
you get this man in a room and you go look dude your son told us that you were the
one that told him to get in that hole and then the Great Falls on him your son told us you were driving him to the
hospital and he remembers you pushing him by the face out of the moving vehicle and this almost kills him and we
also found a paper trail that you stood to gain $60,000 should that little boy die
you're hoping you can scare him into a plea bargain at that chance and I bet you they took that chance right and
Scott is just it wasn't going to to fall for it now putting all of that together
makes it also seem even much more ridiculous that Uncle Terry magically disappeared that he
Struck it big hitting the lottery and then running off to Mexico with some mysterious woman that no one had ever
met named Ginger right no evidence that that he even won the lottery or that he's still in existence right
so this is one part of the story that we left out last week this goes down nearly
a year after Uncle Terry Kimble disappeared so Scott's father his name is Virgil Kimble
received an email at his Idaho home from his brother Uncle Terry using the email
address Terry Kimble yahoo.com I'm sorry terryl Kimble yahoo.com according to an affidavit
later written by FBI agent grusing in the email Terry claimed to be living in an old part of Mexico with a
woman named Ginger and added that Ginger liked living there and said that she was never going
to return to the United States so that he probably would not either this is creating in a sense an
alibi for where this man would be or or at least him reaching out saying this is
where I am right later after Scott was sitting in jail and law enforcement were busy building a case against him police
traced the email account under Terry's name and traced it back to Scott's Computer ha so pays to study computer
Uncle Terry can't be living in Mexico and sending that email that email came from Scott's Computer and so unless
unless Terry's hiding in the basement then then that's coming from you Scott well and then they found a
bank tell who was able to identify Scott as the person who was cashing Cher Terry's
checks right after he supposedly went off to to Mexico so at least with this one it seems like got him got him throw
a party so other than that where are we well now we're in December of 2008 Scott
Kimble is sitting in jail on those weapons charges investigators had amassed all the evidence we just went
through and interviewed Scott about 10 different times but since Leanne Uncle Terry and Jennifer had never been found
and since Casey's cause of death was unknown the prosecutors the boulder [ __ ] I do want to point something out
before anybody comes down too hard on us for saying for repeating that anybody that's looked into this
case knows that that by the way the the two prosecutors the boulder [ __ ] they seem to have embraced that name that
Scott created for them because yeah that's right we are [ __ ] we're powerful [ __ ] that are going to put
you away well and what that shows them is that they embrace the name because they know that him coming up with that
name means that they are getting to the Teflon con they are getting to the man that couldn't that nobody could put him
away for a long period of time and even though they're well it's also a power move though we're getting to them
but by saying hey want to call us [ __ ] yeah we are we're the [ __ ] that are going to put you away that's
another thing that kind of Stokes the fire right and and you can see look we like we said we got these missing
women to me it it helps that the prosecutors are female because he definitely has a
dislike for females yeah yeah well yes I would agree with that 100% but I also would go take
it a step further and say that it doesn't appear to me that anybody means anything to this guy at
all right I agree attempted murder on his son yeah there is some rumor that he thought about killing his own mother I
mean nobody means anything to him uh paper money is worth more to him than a loved
one's life no but I don't even think it's it's money in the sense of like wanting to build some kind of wealth or
or anything like that it's just it's it's him he is more important than everybody he's a complete psychopath he
he's willing to kill his 10-year-old son to get this money so then he can continue to just live however he wants
yeah almost uh like he feels feel like he's a God on some level so the the problem again that we pointed out is we
don't have any bodies for three of these missing persons so they're they're going
to have to shift gears here and this is a little unfortunate that they're going to have to do this but they need to try
to find these missing people these missing victims and nobody at this point believes any of these three to be alive
so unfortunately they're going to have to talking about a deal a deal with Scott Kimbell so both the prosecutors
they drew up a memorandum of understanding to lay out the deal that they struck with Scott he would plead
guilty to stealing $55,000 from from the optometrist and he would agree to lead investigators to the bodies of Jennifer
markom Leanne Emery and Terry Kimbell and for this he would face only only a single count of second degree murder
thus avoiding being prosecuted for first deegree murder which could result in a life sentence in prison or even the
death penalty uh we should point out it was still an effect in Colorado at that time
right so basically he's going to be charged second degree murder which would be life in prison with the possibility
of parole um I don't believe so I actually believe that it would been less than that really and one of our prosecutors
Catherine uh Booth she says that it was like making a deal with the devil they they nobody felt good about making this
deal with him but where their hearts were were with the victim's families and that meant finding and locating those
victims so this with what he's going to plead guilty too one thing that Scott would
not be aware of that that cathina booth and uh her partner were very excited about this did allow the prosecutors to
classify Scott Lee Kimble as a habitual offender now this status this is a status that carries a mandatory sentence
of 48 years in prison they're going to get a very lengthy prison sentence for this guy Scott signed the plea deal in
December of 2008 and pled guilty to one count of theft as a habitual offender then they all sat down Scott included to
try to figure out how to find the bodies of the missing Scott drew a map to where
he said he left Terry's body this was near Veil pass in an area that was completely covered with snow in January
so when the map was made up they would have to wait until the snow was gone to go out and look for the remains Scott
said that Terry was in the woods wearing clothing sneakers and glasses and bound
inside a tarp with nylon rope now the following month Scott was issued a special release from prison so he could
lead investigators to the places where uh Jennifer and Leanne were buried right this he says was in eastern
Utah this features thousands of square miles of desert canyons and riverbeds so this is not an easy area to to search
and it's a vast area at that to everyone's disappointment Scott was unable to pinpoint exactly where the
bodies were located this even after Consulting maps and satellite imagery you do have to wonder here here Captain
was Scott unable to pinpoint where the bodies were or unwilling to pinpoint where the bodies were yeah that's a
tough one cuz I on one level you think well why would he do this anyways well I guess you're sitting in prison
you got nothing better to do and you get to go out and they're and again it's all
about him and so oh now he's important again and and but I think maybe I actually think that there's a
possibility with some of these that he doesn't know because these are vast areas and some people think he knows
exactly these areas and he's just lying to them which is a possibility because what will they find and what they might
find might lead to actual more evidence to to prove that this guy is full of [ __ ] so on a second Expedition this
again included Scott they set out in March of 2009 this time to Bryson Canyon and this time bones were found
between some Boulders that would prove to be Leanne Emory police also found a bullet fragment which proved to match
the 40 caliber gun owned by Scott Scott LED Searchers on multiple Wild Goose chases in in and out of canyons creek
beds washes and Dry River beds but nothing was ever found uh nothing found of Jennifer Markham right cadaver dogs
and excavations turned up empty police and prosecutors well he also said in an interview though that the where Jennifer
was murdered what he claims is that he was only ever there once right where like maybe some of these other areas
that these women were found he was there more than one time but he his claims with Jennifer markhams that he was only
there ever once so this is where police and prosecutors are starting to question
Scott's cooperativeness and they they're like it seems like he he's pretty happy
to be messing with us so now they're going to go out and make another attempt to locate
Jennifer uh with Scott insisting that Jennifer was near Leanne's body but then they get to the
location and he changes his mind saying actually no she could be like 60 M away so this is where I think they're
getting the vibe like this dude's messing with us and he's enjoying it so despite these efforts right but this is
the moment in time that they uncuff him they punch each other in the face a couple times and then they beat the
living [ __ ] out of him with with bats and what whatever right and um you know just Pummel him for hours and then then
shoot him and be like well he ran away then you come back to the station oh where's Scott at ah he got loose he
punched Us in the face and got away and you move on with your life you know sent
served yeah no don't get me wrong I mean I'm I'm glad these are are good officers I I'm with you I I read about
Scott Kim maybe there'd be better officers I hear about him and I study him and I think to myself yes on a many
levels I would love to Dexter this [ __ ] out in the middle of nowhere but but but but sorry we're
getting back to I think I think your your mouth has the corona back the story here so um despite all these efforts by
law enforcement Jennifer has never been found prosecutors do believe that Scott was simply holding back the information
on Jennifer's grave this this for several reasons their suspicions are that either he's holding this back so he
could use it at a later time right if he needs to you know holding back something
of value to them but remember his cousin wrote a book about Scott and in that book it's
it's titled SLK the agent the FBI agent told the author that he believes that Scott held this
information back because there's possibly another body is buried with or near Jennifer so he doesn't want that
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colonel so Captain with Scott refusing to fully cooperate prosecutors decide to yank
that plea deal that they had just entered into with him a few months earlier mhm now in regards to this his
48-year sentence would still stick so they weren't really running any risk here this is like you pointed out
earlier why not try this you have nothing to lose type situation right but now what they can do is they believe
they can actually prosecute him for murder so investigators received the lab results back regarding the blood stains
that were found in Scott's Home the results showed that those stains on the carpet of Scott's uh
former home were in fact blood and they were the blood of Terry Kimble yeah his uncle his body was found in in June of
2009 by Searchers using the detailed map drawn for them by Scott so sure enough just like Scott said when they found the
body Terry was tied and wrapped in tarp and he had been shot through the head and again the bullet fragment was then
later matched to Scott's handgun yeah and the reason for this again like you said Scott doesn't care about anybody
but his uncle he did come in to a little bit of money and he used to carry around
a briefcase with this money and it wasn't a lot of money but it was a lot of money to Terry so he thought he was a
big shot well he was running his mouth about this money and carrying the the the money around in his briefcase and of
course you spoke to the wrong person yeah you you mentioned this to Scott that only cares about himself okay now I
got to get rid of you so I can have this money well now that Scott's back is against the wall he decides that he
wants to agree to a new plea deal so Scott ends up pleading guilty to two counts of second deegree murder in
the deaths of Leanne Emery Jennifer Markham Casey McLoud and Terry Kimbell so they got all four murders technically
solved right by this time at the sentencing the families of the victims were able to read Victim Impact
statements Jennifer markham's father said quote how many other people are missing as a result of his life it's
time for Scott to be a man and give back what he took from us Scott did not respond to this he's 43 years old at
this time and he was sentenced to 70 years in prison with parole eligibility after 35 years when he would be doing
the math here 78 years old it's still ridiculous that he has any hope of getting out yeah he won't get out he he
will fail those Pro hearings possibly I mean he fooled he's fooled a lot of people and it's hard too
cuz I mean I know we've said you know these FBI agents were kind of stupid and and the other people that he fooled and
he probably could pick out gullible people but it's hard even when you see like I we talked before about him making
those statements in an interview that he's only been to the place that Jennifer Markham was murdered once so he
doesn't remember and it's like maybe he's telling the truth maybe he's lying we don't know at this point he he just
seems to lie about everything but he also when he talks he doesn't Bundy had this way during his interviews where it
was like this Cockiness and this I'm smarter than you thing and and Scott doesn't come off that way he comes off
very matter of fact so I I don't want to say my my biggest argument with the FBI is that you know
that you're getting into bed with a con man and that you need to be all eyes open ears open and focused knowing that
this guy is probably going to try to con you as well the other thing I noticed about him when you talk about interviews
with Scott Kimbell one thing that he is amazing at really his ability to answer time and time again with an answer that
is just loaded with vagueness that doesn't really doesn't really suggest that that he's denying what you're
asking him or agreeing with what you're asking him right it just kind of leaves the door half open to every question
every possibility so Scott later tells the Daily Camera in a uh written answers to
questions as to why he took this plea deal he says quote I'm a gambler I know a great deal when I see one I was
already doing 48 years for fraud why take a chance of receiving four death sentences or life sentences without
parole when I could put four potential murder cases to rest right in 2011 in a 47 Page Letter to his cousin
this is the the man that wrote the book Scott Air quotes confess to the four murders he said that he and Casey were
alone when she ODed on the meth alcohol and oxy mix that he gave her Scott says he gave a fatal dose of
heroin to Jennifer Markham and says that he shot both Leanne and Terry Scott's cousin Ed coet says nobody can have
confidence that Scott is speaking the complete truth because of his long history of lying now I think Scott is
trying to be honest but he has problems I think there's still things he's holding back on and I think he has
difficulty sometimes mentally and psychologically differentiating truth from fiction because he has had to live
his lies for so long I think it's part of his pathology well it's possibly part of the reason why he passed a lie
detector test because if you don't think it's a lie then how is it going to show
deception that's just one of many things that the great George castanza has taught all of us right so but I think
these crimes I think he was uh infatuated with Jennifer Markham well that's perfect
that you bring this up now because I I want to take this now that we know for certain that he committed these murders
we know that by his own his own statements and by all the evidence that the investigators were able to put
together you're you're bringing up the very interesting topic of motive right so if we start with Terry Scott comes
out and whether you want to believe him or not it seems believable because again
this guy has done all these fraudulent things for money it's possible that he would then kill somebody then for money
and he says well you know Terry came into some money I then killed him that money and then we look at like the
motive of why he would want to kill his son on that $60,000 overhead as far as insurance and
we already know that he has committed insurance fraud so is it it's not that far to go well it's another insurance
fraud just add on murder to that MH where I think it gets interesting is the three females mhm and
you know he meets or basically is aware of two of the females through inmates almost like
he's envious of the inmates that's or you have these girls coming to see youing pictures of them hear stories
from these other guys yeah and he's such a con artist that that's all he needs that little bit of an
in and he can then be around you and I don't think necessarily that any of these women wanted him in any sexual
manner I he might not have been he might not have even tried that angle right he
might have just like with Jennifer Markham when when you start going okay you need a place to stay I'll give you a
place to stay you know I'll be an answer for you and then at some point my obsession
with you or some sexual desire is going to come out because I do believe that um Scott
is a rapist a murderer I believe those were the motives yeah yeah well so we have
Scott's cousin Ed coet who who would issue a statement on Scott's behalf and please do not hear what I am not
saying this this is Scott's words all right okay don't hear what I'm not saying these are Scott's words I mean no
ill will toward his cousin Ed I actually think that Ed writing the book um SLK is an attempt to help with some of
these investigations and help U put together a record of of what we believe to be the truth so I think Ed's trying
to help the case he's issuing this statement on on Scott's behalf these are Scott's words this is after Scott's
sentencing he basically blames the FBI for his own actions and look the the words or
whatever that that statement that that Scott issues some could say it's interesting
some could say Nick could you include it would you read it and I tell you what no
I I'm not going to read any part of that here because this is a man Scott Kimble that
is so damn coldblooded he time and time again planned the murders of those around
him some of these people he was supposed to be helping some that were helping him
and one person that he planned to murder but thankfully it didn't work he tried to kill his 10-year-old son the only
person deserving of blame in any of these matters is Scott Lee Kimbell a man so evil and so cowardice that he tried
to kill a little boy Scott Le Kimble is not anything special even as a con man he's a loser everything this coward
attempted or tried to get away with he eventually failed yes it took a long time but he failed last week we spoke of
a letter Scott wrote regarding the man that sexually assaulted Scott when he was was young and that that man that
cruel and cowardice man his name was Theodore pton by the way Scott says that that man dis destroyed his childhood and
robbed him of his innocence and I believe that to be an extremely accurate statement but Scott grew up to be and
decided to be a man even more cruel and cowardice than the man who stole his innocence so when we talk about motive
with this creep it's just not so simple as to pointing to money as the motivating factor because when we talk
about Scott Kimble we are discussing a psychopathic killer one that reminds me very much of Leonard Lake and HH Holmes
or what I believe is more fun to say calling him by his real name Herman Webster
mudget likely we have a multitude of motives that likely varies based on the victim right financial gain covering up
other crime and sexual sadism and Scott claims that his major motivator was greed Scott
wrote These are his words quote if anybody wants to know why I did what I did my answer is that I always did it
for the money huge amounts of money end quote but Scott is a liar he spent his whole adult life lying to everyone all
of the time so it's easy to believe that he is lying here as well because what huge amount of money did he get when he
abducted and murdered his soon to be wife's daughter Casey the answer is none and then we have one of our beloved
prosecutors Amy akobo the assistant DA who helped nail Scott said his motives were pretty simple he liked to control
people she said I think he red more on the ability to manipulate and control the relationship even while they were
still alive for a while to have that power and use them for what he could use them for while he could until he just
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Brief Summary

Scott Kimble's manipulative crimes lead to multiple murders and a controversial plea deal with prosecutors.

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Gamechangers in Learning. Rosetta Stone's immersive lessons transform language learning into an intuitive experience.
The Dark Side of Scott Kimble. Scott's phone records reveal troubling connections to missing persons.
The Deal with the Devil. Prosecutors strike a deal with Scott Kimble to locate missing bodies.
Scott's Plea Deal. Scott agrees to a new plea deal, pleading guilty to multiple murders.
Victim Impact Statements. Families of the victims confront Scott during sentencing.
Scott's Manipulative Nature. Prosecutors reveal Scott's desire for control over his victims.

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