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this morning 9:30 my daughter's been missing since this morning she's 8 months pregnant she took her dog for a
walk in the par mhm the dog came home with just the Le shot so the dog came back with about your daughter right okay
what is your address sister well I my is that where is that where she it's over at Mala Park is where she went for
the walk what is I can't remember what's your cell phone number sir in case you get disconnected it's um um 404 uhhuh
uh can't believe I'm going like 404 okay so what's the address where she lives and she's missing five her address
is there between Inca and drive yeah okay is that a house what is your name my name is Ron I'm St okay what is your
name gr g r n f k y r a n t f k i husband Scott Peterson is on way over the park
name Peters no no no your stepdaughter Lacy Peters Lacy p t e r s o n right p p e r s o is she wife L Hispanic Asian um
she's Portuguese and wife how old is she she's 26 what time did she leave the house and didn't come
back that we don't know we just had a call from our son-in-law that he left this morning at 9:30 to play golf he
just sat home about a half hour ago nowhere around she went to up the dog walked it in in that park that's par
that Mark over there one over there you know by the okay on in CA yeah you have a
flashlight absolutely and she's 8 months pregnant you said pardon she you said she's 8 months pregnant yep I
[Music] am [Music] on February 5th 2003 Lacy Peterson's family they step up their criticism of their son-in-law
Scott Peterson saying that he sold his pregnant wife's car and he was considering selling the couple's house
well like you always say when somebody goes missing when the family stays in the area that that's a sign of something
yeah more importantly I think when they leave the area that's what always scares
me especially when a person is is just lost you know because especially when you have a child that goes missing
usually the thought of the mother and the father is typically we don't want to move we don't want to change our phone
number we don't want to do anything that will pre prevent our son or daughter from coming home home M meaning that
given the opportunity if their son or daughter who is being held captive has a window of time that's even 3 minutes
long if they can dial a phone to call me and tell me where they might be or if they get away on foot or if they get
away somehow from their captor that they would return home at the very least right and this um this
husband um is so worried about his wife so worried about his unborn child that he he sells her car and he's so worried
so he's thinking that maybe he should sell the house yeah yeah yeah and so what we do
know for a fact is he did sell their car her car um I don't can't say for certain Captain
but it might just be her family and her her parents that were saying that he was
considering selling the house I don't know that that's fact but still selling her Land Rover is a strange thing to do
I would think one and then two I don't really have a date for when this occurred I don't know if we know the
exact date of when it did occurred but what was later reported at some point was that the nursery room remember that
for the baby the expected baby for Connor Peterson MH they had already painted the room blue they had already
decorated the room it was sitting there waiting for the baby's arrival mhm only thing that room was missing was the baby
and guess what when his baby and wife went missing at some point he then starts to use that room for other things
I believe it was he used it for storage or some point he altered the room at some point what I'm pointing out here is
these are actions of a man that I don't think is expecting these two to return right and to play Devil's Advocate his
reasoning is that the cops have my truck and I need a truck for work so I had to
sell her Land Rover which is pretty much a truck and he had to get a new truck yeah claiming he couldn't do his job or
whatever he needed his vehicle for using the Land Rover and yeah I I mean I get it but here again is another situation
of a guy that seems to have an answer for everything and or if he doesn't have an answer he makes one up and then
changes it later no that that's exactly what I mean he's squirming and and weaseling his way out of what the truth
is the truth is he couldn't get further from Lacy and Connor fast enough is really what I believe and I again I
don't have the date for this but I I have in my notes it was roughly like five weeks into The Disappearance six
weeks into The Disappearance at some point his words he's saying things like at some point we have to move on you
know we we right right again this is this is an individual that that as opposed to the mom saying Lacy's mom
saying there'll never be closure they'll never be moving on from this you know that that's the huge difference right
and that's what I meant yesterday when I don't think you know I don't think I don't
care what his professor in high in college said about you know he was a model student he was intelligent I would
have loved to have a whole room full of Scott Petersons I don't find this guy to
be dick noses I don't find him to be intelligent at all at least in the grand scheme of getting away with this crime I
don't think I really don't think he thought that he was going to have to go through this scrutiny that he was going
to be under the microscope I think he thought that if he set it up properly narcissist yeah that at some point that
they would just believe that she was abducted and everybody else would move on MH that he would move on and they
would move on now we have February 10th this is when Lacy Peterson this was her expected due date it comes and it goes
and then February 17th Scott Peterson's mother Jackie she tells the Associated Press her family believes kidnapper
kidnappers abducted Lacy Peterson with the intentions of holding her captive until she delivered the baby yeah and
one of the reasons why they thought this was there was three women in Modesto that went missing pregnant women that
went missing from that area and in a radius of a I believe like 90 Mi to 100 miles there was there has been eight
missing uh pregnant women well the whole case is going to take a turn Captain because on April 13th 2003 the remains
of a late term male fetus were found on Richmond's Point Isabel Regional Shoreline north of the marina where
Scott went fishing the day Lacy disappeared the next day a partial female torso missing its hands feet and
head were found in the same area now later these bodies are in fact identified to be Lacy and Connor and
autopsies were performed but due to composition decomposition the exact cause of death could not be determined
the medical examiner did note that Lacy had suffered some broken ribs prior to her death so these injuries were not
caused they were not caused after death this is when she was alive and prosecutors suggested that she could
have been suffocated or strangled inside the Peterson home right so this is going
to put police on high alert because now that they found the bodies they're going
to they're actually afraid that Peterson is going to run for the Border because he is uh hanging out in San Diego
Golfing down there with his family now I have to admit here watching the coverage
of this investigation and as the news was breaking you know I didn't want them you know it's it's one
of those situations and we've been through this before on other cases we've covered Captain it's a situation where
you hope they find something but you also hope they don't find something you know because you want Lacy to be alive
you want Connor to be alive and well yeah and it it started feeling to me like this guy was not going to get
arrested like he was was not going to have to go to trial because I was ultimately starting to get very
concerned that they were never going to recover her her remains right and I remember it being early April when I
really started worrying about that and I worried about it a little more each day
as the days went on leading up to April 13th when they finally made that Discovery and then remember we had to
wait a whole day till they found the female remains and then a whole another day to get confirmation that that was in
fact the two that they had been missing and looking for for so long now at some point they did however uh rule this
investigation a homicide investigation they flip-flopped from missing persons to a homicide and I think their thought
was at least for public perception let's turn this up let's crank up the heat on
this thing and let the public know that we consider this a homicide investigation because at that moment the
public opinion of this guy was so bad was so terrible he was already convicted in the Public's eyes and let's make this
happen so we can get an actual arrest warrant for this guy because like you said I think even days before they found
the bodies they were concerned that he was going to flee at some point he was going to leave the area now after the
bodies are found Scott Peterson by this point mostly have been staying in San Diego with his family Santiago
and allegedly he says this is to avoid media attention right now Scott Peterson was ultimately arrested on April 18th
2003 this is near uh a golf course where he claimed to that he was going to be meeting his father and his brother for a
game of golf right will The Real Slim Shady please stand up well Scott Peterson's naturally dark hair dark
brown hair had been dyed blonde mhm um his he was driving a mercedesbenz mhm which was quote unquote overstuffed with
miscellaneous items including nearly $115,000 in cash survival gear camping equipment several changes of clothes
four cell phones and his brother's driver's license right now which which I can't claim that he used the driver's
license um to get into the golf club at at some point um you you can or can't that's what they claimed that he used it
for right uh they also claimed that the hair dying and the Shaving to have a goatee was
actually um at this point he hired Mark gagos to um basically be his attorney and Mark gagos said hey we we should
alter your image that way media will leave you alone yeah so want to talk a little bit about items found with Scott
in the car or on Scott because there are some conflicting reports from everything
I found you know the above items that I mentioned the $115,000 in cash survival gear camping equipment changes of
clothes for cell phones right just think about that for a second all that cash and four cell phones and then his
brother's driver's license those items I can confirm that multiple multiple multiple almost every report I read
state that those items is what was found on this guy M um some items that I think
are interesting that aren't mentioned in every single report one is that Scott Peterson had his driver's license on him
as well this might back up Scott Peterson's father's story the story I heard was that he was intending on using
his brother's driver's license um the day before to get a San Diego resident discount at the golf course now for the
golf course yeah like you said there's we can't confirm if that actually happened or not uh but on that same
topic a couple reports and this was from one in particular was from Fox News states that he had his brother's
passport which is a whole different bag of worms than uh than the driver's license to get the discount right this
is hey can I get the discount on crossing the Mexican border right but I'm I'm going to just uh believe his uh
his father on this one as far as the driver like driver's license is concerned some reports also state that
he had 12 viagra pills 200 sleeping pills well when you're watching a lot of porn you know and you're a little chubby
and you can't get it up you might need to pop some pills well a combination of Viagra pills and sleeping pills have me
very concerned suicide by boner no I think with the multiple Affairs that he had during the course of his
marriage MH with the excessive porn watching after The Disappearance which we now know is was
the death of his wife MH I think that we are talking about an individual that is
very likely a sex addict um and my concern is that the sleeping pills are not for him that
they're for other people and he intends to use the Viagra and the sleeping pills
at the same time just one person in the group's going to get the sleeping pills right Scott Peterson's going to take the
Viagra pills yeah yeah instead of giving them um arold Palmer or Shirley Temple or a Jack and Coke he's going to give
them the old Bill Cosby now we also have in several several statements I don't know how it didn't work its way into all
of them but I believe this to be true either a dagger or a knife was found on him now that's what she said I think the
confusing thing here is that a lot of times survival gear is mentioned and it might just be getting lumped into that
uh rope was also found in the vehicle which is probably again getting you know roped roped into the survival gear um
but the tricky thing here is we have a map quest map printed off of Amber Fry's uh general area in which she lived in
and we have a guy who had said multiple times that he would still like to meet her and we have a girl we have a lady
Amber fry who is maybe the number one witness against this individual right and I just a part of me really
wonders what his plan was because there is no way there's no way anybody's talking me out of that he that he wasn't
fleeing that he wasn't taking a one-way trip to you know this guy was going on a
permanent vacation well and the way they arrested him is they they followed him and then they eventually they were like
okay we we we have to pull him over now uh because the second body was found so it wasn't like a body was found and then
he fled but he had all the workings to at some point it I think he had a plan to leave if he
decided to take that that jump I think there was a good chance that they weren't lying that that he was
planning to golf with his father and brother and then that was a sayanora to to his you know one last possibly but
what I'm saying is like I think we have evidence that he had it everything's ready to go right and if I decide to
jump whenever I decide to jump it's there he's whenever he needs to he can pounce and he can jump and I I do
personally I just think that that was kind of a good buy do you think he was going to try to kill
Amber I think that there's maybe more evidence that something I think cuz they were still
talking I think if she would have agreed to meet him somewhere M then he would have right or if she would have invited
him to her home which I don't think would have happened in a million years obviously but um I think he would have
attempted something I think he was planning on leaving that day after the golf outing and I also have information
stating that that Mercedes Benz was I believe in his mother's name registered to his mother so there could all Al be
there could also be some help and assistance with prior knowledge of from his immediate family right now on April
21st 2003 Peterson was arraigned he was charged with two felony counts of murder
with premeditation and special circumstances the first-degree murder of lacy obviously and then the second
degree murder of Connor he did plead not guilty at this arraignment Lacy's family
and the prosecution were seeking the death penalty now before his arraignment Scott Peterson was represented by Kirk
mallister a veteran criminal defense attorney from Modesto Kevin's father I don't know who Kevin mallister is Kevin
McAllister we have then we have Chief Deputy public defender Kent Falkner who also was assigned to the case Peterson
later indicated that he could afford a private attorney and this was the famous high-profile attorney Mark
gagos the judge changed the venue of the trial from Modesto to Redwood City because obviously Peterson Scott
Peterson was um you know receiving increasing hostility in this mod Modesto Area Scott Peterson's trial began on
June 1st 2004 and obviously was followed extremely closely by the media and we should say by just about every media
Outlet you can think of um Scott Peterson's defense lawyers based their case on the lack of direct evidence and
played down the significance of circumstantial evidence they suggested that the fetal remains were of a
fullterm infant and theorized that someone kidnapped Lacy held her until she gave birth and then dumped both
bodies into the bay well one of the main things that they point out is probably the biggest error that the police made
and that was right after Lacy went missing they actually said that Scott was fishing in the Bay Area the day she
went missing this is what his truck looks like and so their theory is somebody took her hostage uh she gave
birth to the child and then afterwards they dumped it in the same area that Scott was fishing in yeah gagos uh
Scott's attorney suggesting that a satanic cult had kidnapped the pregnant woman and like you said using
information that they gained from media reports could frame him by dumping the body and bodies in the bay now we have
well because there was an attack on a woman in Modesto and actually during that attack they they claimed that there
would be a murder sacrifice and they would it would be on a pregnant woman okay so there was claims of this and
this was actually looked in to by the police department and they found this not to have any validity to it the
prosecution's medical experts contended that the baby was not fullterm and actually died at the same time as his
mother and eventually was expelled from her uterus kind of naturally I guess was
the cleanest nicest way to say and they're they're expert on the stand have you ever seen the expert this expert on
the stand no and I'm going to be full disclosure here Captain um I I did watch portions of the trial but I I didn't
have the strength to sit through the entirety of of the trial he he basically he's on the stand to say that the the
baby not even that the baby went full term but that the baby died weeks and weeks later and once he couldn't really
prove that the defense is stating this right right the defens is star witness at some point he just starts yelling hey
give me a break this is not exact science I'm not even qualified to do this I mean he loses his [ __ ] like it's
I mean it couldn't have gone any worse for the defense on on this witness so unlike Peterson the uh he's this guy is
unable to squirm he's unable to lie right I want give me a break give me a break I don't even know what I'm doing
that's not even an exact science well some other weird stuff at the trial um there was some weird stuff with the jury
one was removed one member of the jury was removed and replaced early on in the trial due to misconduct and then later
the jury Foreman which is a very strange thing to see the foreman remov but this wasn't so much removed
because it's requested his own removal during the jury deliberations well and I hate to keep cutting you off but the the
first one was there was on the way into a courtroom there was some talking and it was simple that's the dismissal of
the first one the foreman he he decided to go but that was during the decision making process once once it
came down to make a verdict is when he said uh basically it was like a couple people
thought maybe he was innocent and then it got to a vote I believe of like 11 to1 and that he was like the last one he
was the one holding out and he he just didn't think that they're giving it due process and going over every point and
eventually um he also made claims that he was you know some of the jury members threatened his life and that he got in a
physical converation with them um the other jury members obviously deny that well regarding the evidence itself you
know like we said there was a lot of circumstantial evidence and an overwhelming amount of circumstantial
evidence that pointed against Scott Peterson now as far as physical evidence goes the only piece of forensic evidence
that was identified is that single hair that we spoke about the Strand thought to have been Lacy's that was found in a
pair of pliers on Scott Peterson's boat now this uh presented as prosecution evidence during the trial was the fact
that Peterson changed his appearance MH and purchased the vehicle using his mother's name in order to avoid
recognition by the Press more evidence Scott added two pornography pornographic television channels to his cable service
only days after his wife's disappearance the prosecution stated that this meant he knew she was not coming home Peterson
expressed interest in selling the house as we had said that he had shared with Lacy sold her Land Rover so he he sold
as we stated sold the Land Rover and changed the nursery at some point the defense had a lot of different theories
as to what happened to Lacy and Connor and one such Theory this one I found to be uh very interesting and it's it's a
little different than the satanic cult uh Theory but this theory is that was argued was that a sex worker who was
accused of stealing checks from the Peterson's mailbox might have come in contact and murdered Lacy apparently the
uh Modesto police detectives said this woman we know who she is we've identified her she's never been a
suspect in The Disappearance and furthermore the prosecutor would argue that the noted checks the checks that
were stolen were stolen after Lacy had already vanished arguing that this means that um this
woman was not around was was not there doing this item doing these bad Deeds before Lacy Peterson went
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Captain I have to apologize to the good folks out there want to Cheers you because my I'm doing something's up with
my throat it's my voice this week I'm battling through it um it feels it's some heavy lifting over here so I
apologize if I sound terrible but uh I do want to Circle back to the the prosecution and the police's
thought that Scott Peterson made homemade concrete anchors and that these homemade concrete anchors were missing
and they state in court that they believe that Scott made four or five of these homemade anchors and only one was
found the one that you had pointed out was found on the boat or in his Warehouse it was on the boat and they
believed that these additional anchors were used to hold Lacy's body down right underwat water and what they've found is
when people do this and they anchor a body down that normally whatever body part that they use to anchor down uh if
the body surfaces that limb will be ripped off and so the way that Lacy was found I mean as graphic as it is I mean
there's no head there's no arms and there's no legs so it's basically a torso and one thing that I wanted to
point out and I wanted to make sure that I brought this up was I had read on several blogs that people were confused
why they spent so much time at trial arguing about what was used or what would have been used to make the one
anchor that they did find okay we have the defense who's saying well Scott Peterson used a like a pitcher um some
kind of smaller item to make the mold for this anchor that was found right these weren't it wasn't a big anchor a
lot of people see this and think one of those big work buckets well that's the prosecution is stating that it was
either a paint bucket or some type of bucket from Home Depo that was used to make the anchors MH and the reason why
this is important is because keep in mind the only evidence that we have other than the purchase of way too much
concrete to make just one single anchor you know we we they know about that purchase that was made how much concrete
he purchased right where's that other where did the of go he he claims that he used it on some concrete work at his
home well I think what he did was took some sleeping pills a little bit of Viagra and shoved it up his ass well
regardless his his statement for why he purchased so much concrete goes against the prosecutions theory the prosecutions
theory is that he used uh an item that was larger than this pitcher that the defense kept pointing to to make the
mold for the concrete anchor the reason why this is important is the size the size of the anchors that he was making
is important because other than the evidence of the purchase of the concrete the only other evidence that we have
that these ever existed are the rings that were found left on that table on his workbench let's say and so they need
the prosecution needs those to match the size of the Rings the anchors that we believe he made needs to match the size
of the Rings where the defense is going to say they don't match the size of the Rings because look he used this rather
than those bigger buckets now on November 12th 2004 a jury convicted Scott Peterson of two counts of murder
first-degree murder with special circumstances for killing Lacy and second deegree murder for killing Connor
uh who she was carrying the penalty phase of the trial began on November 30th and concluded December 13th when
the jury Ren rendered a sentence of death on March 16th judge Alfred deluchi followed the jury verdict sentencing
Peterson to death by lethal injection and ordering him to pay $10,000 toward the cost of Lacy's funeral calling the
murder of lacy Peterson cruel uncaring heartless and callous in a later press appearances members of the jury stated
that they felt that Peterson's demeanor specific his lack of emotion and the phone calls to Amber in the days
following Lacy's disappearance indicated to them that he was guilty they based their verdict on quote hundreds of small
puzzle pieces of circumstantial evidence that were revealed during the trial from
the location of Lacy's body to the lies her husband told after her disappearance
yeah and from if you watch there's a really interesting documentary on this it's I believe a six-part series on a
and e one of the things that everybody says defense and prosecution is the trial was going shitty for the
prosecution people were bored out of their mind the jury looked like they were falling asleep and then when they
called Amber fry that's where everything changed and even the day before the closing they thought Mark gyos is a
better closer he's going to he's going to it's going to come down to the closing argument and Mark gyos is going
to win MH and for whatever reason the prosecution which was so boring and lack of emotion and this whole case is based
on emotion he came out hit it out of the park and Mark gagos kind of you know pooped his drawers right in front of
everybody so we we have gagos who from public perception was kind of guaranteed to overd deliver right and he
did not deliver and then we have the prosecution who was kind of expected to hand us a a a boring
statement um lackluster if you will and that that individual comes out and and Nails it really hits it home for the
jury mhm and there's some thought too um you know in regards to the foreman um that the jury Foreman he asked for
himself to be removed because he thought that the rest of the jury were going to
try to vote him out or get him removed somehow from that jury and if I could be quoting
him wrong but I believe Mark gagos at the time thought well look they don't have enough evidence to convict him but
this is emotionally based case so they will so he was actually hoping for a hung jury now if that foreman stays on
there and votes not guilty then you got a hung jury and then you have a new trial so and then you could then argue
whether or not Amber testimony should be in and a lot of people argue that but it's pretty simple
she's a character witness right and and I think by her being in there and listening to the hours and hours of the
tapes of him talking to her and him lying to her on the phone and and the jury also gets to hear where he's
actually at when he's making those phone calls um yeah and and I think that's very damning and she in regards to Amber
being allowed in in and at the trial I mean come on look at all the time spent interacting with him whether it be face
to face or on the phone leading up to The Disappearance of lacy and then afterwards right Scott Peterson arrived
at San Quinton state prison on March 17th 2005 he joined the more than 700 other inmates in California's Soul death
row facility on October 21st 2005 a judge ruled that proceeds from a $250,000 life insurance policy Scott
Peterson took out on Lacy Peterson will go to Lacy's mother MH then we have the appeals process Captain so we have Cliff
Gardner this is eventually Peterson's attorney stated that because I think Mark gagos was like I got I gotta get
out of this so gagos you know I couldn't think I like gagos a lot I think he's very intelligent uh I listen to him a
lot when he has a a podcast with Adam Corolla um it's called Uh Reasonable Doubt so uh if you're interested in
hearing what this guy is like check out his podcast it can be difficult sometimes stating or you know telling
others that you like a defense attorney because I think that a lot of times Captain that people not everybody but
it's not hard for me it's cuz I like to tell the truth no I get that and I don't
have any problem with gagos I actually find him I don't know a ton about him but I do find him to be attractive very
intelligent and and um very good at what his role is to be right um you know I did say that I liked um I can't think
what Jose bayz did I get his name right yeah um for somebody somebody who couldn't stand
Casey Anthony you know I couldn't couldn't stand that woman I you I can't I mean I don't let's not
even get into that but I do I did like her attorney in the role that he played now what I mean by that is sometimes
people will go sometimes people identify the defense attorney with the person that's on trial right and they go well
that's the guy that represented Scott Peterson and you know what I hate Scott Peterson so therefore gagos piece of
[ __ ] well well yeah and similar too like one of the things that you see is when
when Scott Peterson's family is leaving after they sentenced their son to death the the amount of people attacking his
parents you know like you're going to watch your son die like they had nothing to do with this
girl's disappearance mhm they they wanted to be a grandparents you know he ripped the he
he you know so I I think when people attack people like that it's just it's ignorance right right I agree well so we
have the thought of some appeals because we have um his attorney his later attorney stating that there were
mistakes made there was incorrect evidentiary rulings that deprived Scott Peterson of
a fair trial on July 6 2012 his defense attorney filed a 423 page appeal of Scott Peterson's sentence
now the State Attorney General's office filed their response brief on January 26
2015 then the defense filed a response to the state's brief in July of 2015 M this is where they claim that a
certified dog that detected at Lacy's scent at the Berkeley Marina had failed 2third of tests with
similar conditions yeah so one of the things we skipped over in the trial is that they had a scent dog and that this
dog magically got to the pier and picked up on Lacy's scent and this is weeks afterwards and if you even buy the
prosecution story uh Lacy was never on the dock she would have been in a boat and then that
boat would have been from the trailer put into the water so the fact that they went with a sniffing dog doesn't make
any sense anyway but this dog has failed multiple tests anyways M sometimes I see the
prosecution do this where they are battling a defense that the defense just keeps coming up with all these random
ideas as to what could have happened except for their client their client didn't do it but any of of these other
possibilities are a possibility right you know they're trying to establish Reasonable Doubt and I find sometimes
that the prosecution gets swept up in this does the same thing they start saying well here's all reasons why he
did do it oh but it doesn't go with our story it doesn't go with our Theory which is a Dangerous Waters to uh for
them to be in now uh November 20 2015 uh the defense filed a habus corpus petition claiming that a juror had lied
on her jury application and that there was evidence that neighbors saw Lacy alive after Scott left home that day
Christmas Eve on August 10th 2017 the State Attorney General responded by appealing by to the appeal by filing a
150 page document contesting the notion disputing the claims put forward in the appeal stating that the appeal ignored
quote overwhelming evidence that Peterson murdered Lacy stating that the timeline of the crime was established by
the neighbor who found the Peterson's golden retriever wandering in the street when its leash was still attached before
the sightings of lacy and her dog started coming out do you want me to break down this point real quick yes so
the idea is that roughly about 101 18 is when The Neighbor finds uh the Peterson
dog in the Peterson's yard she doesn't find it in the park she doesn't find it down the street she finds it in the yard
she said this would happen all the time they might be playing outside or not playing outside but doing work in the
garden work in the yard and the dog would be out front and she'd bring the dog back around to him this time it was
a little different because the dog had a leash on it so she claims that she took
the dog with the leash put it back in the yard shut the gate left the leash on dog is secure in the backyard which I
find strange because if I found my neighbor's dog with the leash on and it was wandering around I'd probably take
the leash off when I put it in the backyard that's just me but she left the leash on
and then the then about 15 20 minutes later the mailman delivers now he said that their dog always barked at him
whether inside or outside the dog always barked at him he claims that the gate was
open this is what I love all these Scott Peterson supporters say if the mailman is correct in his time
which he should be because he's his time is based off of him scanning in mail which document documents the time this
would be roughly a half hour later after the neighbor states that they put the dog in the Peterson's backyard fenced in
backyard so what they're claiming is since the gate was open again that this proves that Lacy was
home and this proves that if anybody open that gate it was lazy that's what they claim this proves it doesn't prove
that at all yet you don't have to be a genius to figure this out there's so many
possibilities of why that gate was open the gate was open then the dog was put back and then the the neighbor closes
the gate did she not close the gate well enough we don't know did the did the gate have a bad latch and that's why it
was open open in the first place we don't know but what we do know is that when Scott Peterson comes home guess who
still has a leash on so it's if if if Lacy was there and she reopened the gate then why wouldn't she take off the leash
of the dog I mean they think they claim that this is proof that she was alive uh
at 10:30 10:45 and I I think it's proof of nothing well it's just proof that the the gate
was open people get confused you know if you go to certain websites you watch certain documentaries things are skewed
in a certain way showed under a certain light at a different angle it's easy for
somebody to flip sides and think hey this person might be innocent or this person might be guilty or or so on and
so forth well it gets tricky but here's here's what I think that we well hold on
but what I was going to say is but if you're Scott Peterson and you're lying to everybody and you've been lying to
everybody for a really long time and you're lying to your parents and you're lying to your sisters and you're lying
to whoever your brothers whoever you're lying to lying to the world then there's
a part of you you know if you're his father you want to believe him you want to believe that you rais somebody better
than this right and and so I I feel bad for them because they're trying to prove
that he's innocent where well back to the the whole dog thing and the neighbor placing the dog in the fence that
occurred at what time they think rough 1015 1018 1020 so let's say in the window of 10:15
1020 what I think that people are failing to recognize here is that remember the statement of 11 Witnesses
stated that they saw Lacy Peterson with their dog walking her dog mhm okay and remember those statements the statements
that I found do not specifically name Le Lacy Peterson they State I saw a woman and her dog or a Woman matching Lacy's
description and a dog matching that description right the other issue here that's very difficult is if the neighbor
found the dog by itself places the dog in the fence between 10:15 and 1020 any of those
sightings any of those witnesses that come forward and say that they saw the dog with Lacy after 10:20 did not see
Lacy did not see Lacy and did not see the Peterson's dog right unless unless here's what happened she let the
dog out right and then she went and stole another dog that looked just like her dog and walked that dog that's
probably what happened well I think ultimately what happened is I think the jury got it right I understand that all
they had was circumstantial evidence I see what I believe to be a mountain of circumstantial evidence I know that it
is called into question uh my next statement here but I do believe that it's likely Scott Peterson told his
in-laws that he went golfing that morning and then later he's saying that he went fishing instead I don't think
that this guy was smart enough to understand or to believe that he was going to have to answer the amount of
questions that he was going to have to to come across I don't believe that he thought he would be investigated as
early into this as he actually was and I think at some point he squirmed when when presented with the idea that he was
golfing and he had to prove where he was well guess what fishing still proves that I didn't kill my wife that in the
window that I'm going to lead you to believe that my wife was murdered um I wasn't here or available or with
her during that time because I was fishing and here's my proof that I was fishing here's my launch ticket here's
the receipt for that and I think this was absolutely premeditated murder I think he planned to kill her before he
purchased that boat I believe that she likely didn't know about the boat and persons close to her and him didn't
know about the boat I think he pre he premeditated the murder of his wife and his to be son and he did this I think I
think I don't think he did this for Amber I don't think he did this because he wanted to be with Amber I think he
just did this for himself and what I mean by that is I think I think all this all this stuff you know the the
purchasing online by Lacy that morning I think so what he he took her debit card
and credit card and he bought something on a website that he knew that she shopped on yeah that's not hard to do
yeah he turns on Martha Stewart while he's preparing things to to take it to San Francisco Bay and he listens to
what's going on and says Ah I remember Martha talking about this and this and this while Lacy was watching it that
morning and then he conveniently goes into work where he's picking up his boat transferring the body at some point from
the truck to the boat taking the body out into the water tossing it over the side of the boat at the trial at the
trial we have the defense that says oh the prosecution uh took out a boat that was uh similar to um oh no no I'm sorry
I got this backwards the defense stated we we have a boat same exact boat as Scott Peterson's took it out to the bay
and using the weight of Peterson as an example and the weight of lacy as an example trying to toss that body over
into the water made the boat capsized therefore Scott Peterson could not have done it in that small of a boat the
prosecution fired back and stated uh well let's do let's use Scott Peterson's actual boat and go out there
and conduct the same test and the defense quickly let that slide they didn't want to see that happen because I
don't think that they believe the the show that they put on much like the show that Scott Peterson was putting on this
whole time I think he fabricated this Alibi I think he did things to make it look like lacy was alive longer than she
was and that he was gone at the time that she disappeared he likely he likely after
driving off with her body either in the truck or all you know he he he might have even had the dog with them and
releases the dog on the side of the road a couple blocks away hoping the dog walks home returns home and the neighbor
finds it and then we have this situation of of his boat that that he's keeping at the
warehouse mhm you know I I really think he had a he had a place that he could go
and he could conceal moving that body very briefly into that boat and then he goes out onto the water on what day
Christmas Eve why he's not expecting to see anybody else out there and he doesn't want to see anybody else out
there well just to play Devil's Advocate defense did present the idea that he saw
somebody out there they claimed that there was eyewitness that saw um Scott Pearson in a boat and that there was
nothing in the boat um that was false because we knew that we had he had fishing equipment he also mysteriously
had a tarp in his boat but this credible eyewitness that they bring up in all these documentaries and say that once he
gets to trial you had this information you could have called him in the first trial you didn't I think they didn't
because I think this guy was full of [ __ ] he saw a guy and a small boat because again it's a freshwater boat and
you're in saltwater and that was kind of funny and you're wearing camouflage clothes and I don't think this guy saw
that also this idea that there's these satanic killings and that they're going to take a mother and take the baby and
blah blah blah there's no evidence of that so uh come up with something a little bit better now the missing
pregnant women H that's kind of an interesting Theory I love how they say there was
eight of them they don't tell you what happened to the eight of them how one was found one was not found one was
found dead one was found alive and yes there was somebody from Modesto pregnant woman that she was found she washed
ashore they did not find her baby and same scenario it was a torso so the the the cops made a huge
mistake by stating where Scott Peterson was because if somebody did do this killing you got a perfect place to up
the body mhm and then you get to frame this guy so then the other thing too and I think this needs to be looked at
more is the prosecution claims that the burger took place on the 24th or took place on
the 26th and not on the 24th well they actually can't prove that and based on reporters that on the 26
the Scott Peterson neighborhood was filled with media so we're talking about the house that's right across the street
and the people right across the street you would think that robbers are not going to break into a house with when
there's tons of media sitting around on the 26 so I think that's something you know if you want to argue
that point I I might listen to you a little bit but let's start with December 9th you get caught you're dating a girl
you're married you're having a child and you're dating somebody and you get caught and you tell that person lie upon
lie upon lie and then you go oh by the way I was married but guess what happened to her she went missing oh when
did she go missing right before Christmas it's going to be my first Christmas without my wife doesn't say
that she was pregnant still again another lie and is he a fortune teller you know what are the odds that
he tells somebody his wife went missing on the 9th and then on the 24th she goes
missing the defense likes to say well you know on the the 24th that Lacy got her hair done and Scott actually invited
the hairdresser back to the house and so that proves that he wasn't planning on killing her that night that
doesn't prove nothing come over to the house watch some football with us eat some pizza I'm going to kill her in her
sleep anyways I think he probably then they went back they're watching TV eating
pizza he probably put a little sleeping pills and in her drink she passed out he
suffocated her I think he had two tarps I think he put her on one tarp but lined
it with the other tarp so the tarps uh tarps were touching but only one tarp was touching the body I think he then
wrapped her body up in that tarp I think he put her in the truck uh and had two tarps and then on Christmas Eve he
decides to take three umbrellas two giant three giant umbrellas from their backyard and store them at his work
Warehouse what is the point of that cuz I have to cover up the fact that I'm taking a body and put it into my truck
and then what does he do he he stages it like you said oh let me put her bench out you know they they claim that the
bench and the and uh her putting out the bench and having her curling iron and all that stuff proves that she was alive
on the 24th maybe she was alive on the 24th maybe he drugged her on the 24th maybe he suffocated her on the 24th or
maybe he staged it it doesn't prove she was alive it just proves that somebody in the house moved the bench that
somebody in the house put a curling iron out that somebody in the house turned on
Martha Stewart it does not prove that Lacy was alive you can't say well Scott watched Martha Stewart so she was alive
no no it proves nothing it just proves that that Scott watched Martha Stewart and then he pulls out a bucket
puts some cleaning supply in it probably bleach cleans up the place then puts the
bucket outside takes the dog puts it on a leash opens up the gate I don't even think he dropped the the dog off
anywhere I think he just opened the gate knowing that the dog is going to make its way outside the gate he then takes
Lacy's body his unborn child's body that's wrapped up in a tarp he goes um to his Warehouse where the boat
that nobody knew existed no proof that anybody knew about this boat and he had anchors made and one of
the big things that people point out is he had this saw that was ordered and it showed up that day and he looked up
instructions and he assembled the saw well it was a wood saw right but this is a guy that takes a freshwater boat and
puts it in saltwater he doesn't give a [ __ ] if it's a wood saw or if it's a metal saw and I think he used this saw
the reason why he had to put it together is cuz he had to finish the anchors he was making so he makes these anchors
which we have proof that he has one in his boat that's tied to nothing that proves that's evidence that it wasn't
being used for an anchor it was going to be used for something el else and maybe
when he get out there again he has a tarp he has um so he has her body in the tarp she's in she's now either in the
back of his truck or she's in the boat and maybe there was an eyewitness that saw Scott and maybe he didn't see
anything in the boat but maybe the boat wasn't packed up yet and that that's my only explanation for
that where the guy just didn't see what do you know what time the witness States
he saw rough roughly at the same time that uh I mean there was a bunch of eyewitnesses that actually saw Peterson
at the dock and that's because this guy that's supposed to be this Avid fisherman and this guy that has a boat
he was so bad at backing up the boat to put it in the water that people were like whoa and we're talking about a
small boat so again lie after lie you also then say I didn't want to go golfing because it was windy and
rainy and okay you don't want to go golfing but you want to go boating when it's when it's windy and rainy so then
you get out there she's in the boat now you have your little homemade anchors that you got from Home
Depot and you tie tie her limbs up and you get her out of the boat and you're gone for about an hour and a half and
then you decide hey I'm going to call call her I established that I'm gone because what you're trying to establish
is that she went missing and you weren't there not that she was murdered that she
went missing and you weren't there so you call her hey honey I forgot to pick up that thing can you pick it up I know
you can't because I killed you but can maybe you can pick it up for papy what the ever the [ __ ] you said and then you
get back and then you're like oh I got to take a shower I'm going to put my clothes in the washer because I need to
have them wash because it might have some evidence on it oh that bucket of cleaning supplies that I claime that you
were going to mop the floor no I'm going to dump that out so you do that then you call oh time
goes by you think you'd be going hey we have a party to go to what the hell's going on where's she at you don't call
911 you claim that you're talking to the neighbors you claim you're going going to the park then you go and you tell the
police officers our marriage was fine which was a [ __ ] lie because you have a fair it's just lie upon lie upon lie
upon lie and I mean I could keep going on and on and on it's like it's just ridiculous and then their bodies are
found miles from where you were at one mile yeah how do you explain that you sell her car how do you explain that
you you dye your hair and and I understand that there's this idea that if there's um a point of
evidence but it also points to guilty or innocent that you're supposed to go to Innocent but how many times are we
supposed to do that if it's a 100 times are we supposed to do that 100 times no absolutely not does you being a liar
does that make you a murderer no does does you have an affair make you a murderer no you lie a million times uh
maybe you are a murderer you're narcissist for one and and I think here's where people get it wrong when
people sit there and say well the media did this to him in the no no no no no no
no he did it to himself he's the one that chose to have a affair he's the one that chose to to lie to the girl that
was his girlfriend he's the one that then told her that his wife went missing he's the one that lied to everybody over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again right and he so he did this to himself
the media didn't do this to himself I do think the cops messed up a little bit they were searching in the bay for
her body then they find the bodies you know what you need to be searching for the anchors because the anchors that's
your murder weapon right she might have been suffocated beforehand but those those anchors that that is a nail on his
coffin that's to me definitive proof I think they could have found those anchors uh I think they could have
proved all along the way you know people have these things where they go let Lacy
knew about the boat no there was no proof that she knew about the boat there was just proof that she went and took a
piss at the warehouse um they could have they could have tested the Cleaning Supply that he
dumped out was it bleach there's all the speculation that people smelled bleach afterwards is it and if it was bleach
does does that mean he's trying to cover something up um I don't know I Nancy Grace which look
you can hate her for a lot of the stuff she says about other cases fine I'll hand you that but one of the things that
she said which I thought was very interesting was this case was you you wake up right go to
work it's a sunny day beautiful day out you go to work it's time for lunch you come outside branches all over the place
leaves on the ground puddles everywhere did it storm did not storm you didn't see the
storm you don't you didn't physically see that it stormed but you can see by that evidence that it did and I think in
this case that's why he was found guilty and that's why he got the death penalty
I don't think he got the death penalty because he killed Lacy it's he killed Lacy and a
baby the baby was about to be born you know that's why he got the death penalty well you have to wonder
too you know when people make all these little arguments you have to wonder did he purposely buy the boat with the
fishing gear for the depth finder because he needed to dump them deep enough that they may not ever be
recovered right he also looked up currents current patterns the day before and the thing here is Scott Peterson
thank God he got the death penalty and hopefully his is a situation where they do in fact execute him California is not
very good at following through with that part of the penalty phase but you know who he reminds me of and
who he would have went on to be like had he not got caught because again I don't
think he did this to be with Amber I think he did this for himself I think that if had he got married again in
another town and another state somewhere a decade or two later mhm he would have
done the same thing to that that person as soon as he decided it was no longer working for him and this would be a
pattern he would continue to repeat time and time again he reminds me very much of the individual Felix Veil that we
discussed so many cases ago well no and I think the thing though too is a lot of
people go look he's claiming he's innocent he's he's telling his family he's innocent the reason why he
staged or was trying to Stage that his wife went missing is that he couldn't be man
enough to say look I'm having an affair I don't want to be married I don't want to be a father but he couldn't be a man
and say that well that's kind of weird you know if you have a child you should want to
be a father but he didn't have the guts to say that because it would make him look like a pile of [ __ ]
right and I understand that his his uh family want to defend him and all this stuff but how many points of evidence do
you need that your son is one of the biggest piles of [ __ ] that ever walk this
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On December 24th, 2002 - Husband and father to be, Scott Peterson left home at 9:30am. He was planning on a short fishing trip but first he would have to go into work. When Scott left home his wife Laci was watching television. She was planning to do a little house cleaning and then take the dog for a walk. Later that day Scott returned home to an empty house. His wife’s vehicle and purse were still at the house but Laci was nowhere in sight. Scott reported his wife as missing and told police the family dog came home with its leash still on but no Laci...Beer of the Week - Blackberry Daze by Anchor Brewing Garage Grade - 3 and a half bottle caps out of 5

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Brief Summary

Lacy Peterson's case reveals Scott Peterson's suspicious behavior leading to his conviction for her murder.

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The Disappearance of Lacy Peterson. Lacy Peterson's family criticizes her husband Scott for suspicious actions after her disappearance.
Scott Peterson's Arrest. Scott Peterson was arrested near a golf course with suspicious items in his car.
Scott Peterson Convicted. On November 12, 2004, Scott Peterson was convicted of two counts of murder.
Judge's Sentencing Statement. Judge Alfred Delucci sentenced Peterson to death, calling the murder cruel and heartless.
Trial's Emotional Turn. The trial shifted dramatically when Amber Fry testified, changing the jury's perception.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

This is an individual that seems to have an answer for everything.

Analysis of Scott Peterson's behavior

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