Q&A ////// Episode: 109 /// True Crime Garage | Forensic Files

[music] [music] [music] [music] >> Welcome to True Crime Garage. Wherever you are, whatever you are doing, thanks
for listening. I'm your host Nick and with me as always is a man that has pondered every question and he has all
of the answers. He is the very wise and very suave Captain. [music] >> I have been called Captain Know-It-All
before. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's good to be seen and it's good to see you. Thanks for listening and thanks
for telling [music] a friend. This is very special. Tonight we are drinking Black as Your Soul Red Wine
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beautiful Virginia. How did he know? How did How did who know? That my soul was black.
This is a Russian Imperial Stout aged in red wine Zinfandel barrels. Mhm. It's almost too awesome to describe. I liken
this as the Trent Reznor of beers because it's complicated and very, very good. Garage Grade, how about five out
of five bottle caps? And Black as Your Soul is brought to us by Min in Miami, Florida. Min says there's nothing like
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She's got the life. Next a big cheers to Bianca from Brooklyn. We also have Kent
in Bloomington, Indiana who was glad that we covered the Lauren Speer case. And also in Indiana in Crown Point we
have Kelly. And a big cheers to my buddy Morton up in Copenhagen. Cheers [music] to you, old friend. And
next we have a lot of love coming from the big great state of Texas. First up we have Kathy and her daughter Rachel
from Austin. Also in Austin we have Isabel. >> [music] >> Don't want to forget about Ann in Austin
as well. We have Lauren in Katy, Texas, Travis in Pasadena, Texas and Heatherly from Fort Worth. Mhm. Texas, we like
your jib. Next up we want to send a happy birthday to Taylor D in New Albany from Stephanie. Also a happy 30th to
Louisa in Cleveland, the land of the champions. Happy 40th to Brandon from Reggie in Nebraska and Amanda would like
to wish her mother Sue a very happy, happy birthday. Well, happy birthday everybody. Next up in parts unknown we
have Kim D. We also have Michael Ann who says maybe we will one day learn the Captain's true identity. Nope.
Well, here here I'll tell you what my real name is. It's Batman. >> Well, now that cape makes a lot of
sense. Also in parts unknown we have Britney, our man Cat Cereal Dan, Jeff, Shannon, Rachel and Ryan and last but
not least a happy birthday shout out. This is from James to Nattie. James says happy birthday, Nattie. I love you. Mhm.
Now let's be clear that James loves you, Nattie. I don't I don't know the first thing about him. Um it's I feel like
Delilah here. Delilah. We got love connection coming from parts unknown to your parts unknown.
>> [laughter] >> Sick. Sickos. >> All right, that's enough of the business. Grab the mailbag, Captain. I
want to sit down with everybody, have a beer, answer some questions. So let's have more than one beer on this show.
>> That's right. So everybody gather around, grab a chair and let's talk some True Crime Garage.
>> [music] [music] >> All right, well you asked for it so you're going to get it. We've had a lot
of people asking for a a Q&A session with the old Captain and old Nikolai. So here we are.
>> up, people. >> Everybody's kind of eased into their couches, eased into their spots, they
got their drinks. Mhm. Um reach out and grab that mailbag and let's let's hit them with letter number one.
>> Here's a question we get all the time. If you could pick one case that you could solve,
which case would that be? Wow. I thought these would be softball questions. That one That one's a tough
one. That's an intriguing question because >> some softball questions. >> You know, if you were to pick something
like um like the Zodiac cases, Mhm. you know, you you you could justify your answer by saying well, you would be able
to solve a lot of murders all at once. Um but if we're just talking about one specific case, one victim,
I would it would probably go back to me uh and I hate I hate to pick something that's already been on top of our list
before, but the West Memphis 3 case just haunts me and it's something that pops in my mind every 30 or 40 days and it
it's um I hate to sound selfish here, but I almost need that to be solved and resolved for me personally. Um plus I
mean you talk about horrible situation with three very young victims. I should have stated that these questions are
being asked. It's It's live. So it's not like we had a bunch of time to ponder these
answers as well. Well, and I kind of want to top off my answer there and give a little reasoning by why I chose that
case. Well, it's your show. Do what you want. >> It's um that's a case that they're not
going to be actively investigating. Um and and therefore, you know, once that Alfred Plee came into into the deal, um
as far as the state's concerned, that case is off the books. It's technically solved as far as the law goes. They're
not going to investigate that case. So that's why I have to pick that one because a lot of these other cold cases
are still being actively investigated. Yeah, that'd definitely be on the top of my list and I think we talk about that
case so much, but there's all the, you know, the Brandon Lawson case, Brian Shaffer case, um
that Adnan Syed case. Those cases constantly pop like we talked uh a couple episodes ago about the red
light cases. There's those cases that pop into my brain all the time. JonBenét Ramsey,
that'd be a great one to to fully know the truth. Um so that yeah, I I I know you said pick one. I just
picked five. The next question regards people starting up uh their own podcast. You know, we get this question in many
different forms. So kind of a summation of of all of those is, you know, what advice would you give to someone that
wants to start up their own podcast and be successful doing it? Well, I think number one thing is find a subject that
you can talk for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours about and you don't really get tired of it.
Something that really fascinates you. I think that's the key. I mean having a passion
and normally if you're passionate about something, people follow. So I would say
definitely do that first. And the second thing would be to have a hard, you know, toughen up your skin
because there's a lot of haters out there. There's people that they're not even going to listen to your
show. They're just going to find a way to hate on you. Also number three, invest money into yourself. So if you're
going to start a podcast, don't just pull out your iPhone and record on your iPhone.
Go on and we get technical questions all the time. What kind of equipment he use?
The best thing you can do is go to like amazon.com and search for a recording package.
Something that comes with a condenser mic, something that comes with a program, you know, PreSonus is a is a
good company. They got good preamps. Get a good mic. Get a good program. Dive into how to record it so you can
have at least decent quality for people to listen to your nasally drone. Yeah, and regarding the the hate mail and
that's very that's very good thing that you keyed in on there. Uh thick skin because you will for every 10 people
that like what you're doing that won't email you, that won't hit you up with the tweet, you'll get one person that
will send you some hate mail all the time. Yeah, you only hear from the haters, which is really discouraging uh
and it was for us in the beginning, but you just have to um you kind of have to put your blinders
on and keep doing what you like. My recommendation too is would be to make sure that you have somebody on your team
that is very much like the Captain, somebody that's incredibly intelligent, um somebody that knows what he's doing.
Uh he's he's a social media ninja uh and he's a hell of a producer so and and recording engineer. Yeah, I mean I get a
lot of hate mail saying you need to get off the show. I produce the show. So no. I'd be talking into a
tin can if it wasn't >> talking to iPhone. Or the or the wall. All right, so that's kind of advice and
if if you if anybody has any technical questions they would like to ask me, you can do so on social media and all that
stuff. I'm happy to help or point you in the right direction. Okay, Sam asks, what do you have against cows? Oh, well
that's a long list. Um I wonder if Sam is is is Sam being funny or is this because we did a a cow
tipping uh post where because we were drinking the Spotted Cow beer. Mhm. Um I I if he
if he is referencing that, but I personally love cows. Uh I would eat a T-bone steak right now. Well, that's
nice. Yeah. Okay, speaking of eating, would you rather have dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer
or to have a child with Casey Anthony? Well, that's not a fair question at all. Uh who's that from? Cuz that person's
not here. Maddie, you are an unfair person. Um here's the problem with that question, Maddie. A child is a lifelong
responsibility. I you have to be locked into Casey Anthony for the rest of your life. Uh dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer
would certainly be easier. Um hopefully he's not doing the cooking, right, Captain? Right. Um but if if if let's
say I had to choose between dinner with Jeffrey and dinner with Casey, I would still go with dinner with Jeffrey
Dahmer. They're both despicable people in my my humble opinion. Well, yeah, and I and but at the end of the day, the the
meal is going to smell wet way better than natural. >> [laughter] >> All right, let's get to another
question. Let's see. Did you guys ever do a radio show like on a tape recorder when you're little
kids? And do you still got them? That comes from Edith. That's a That's a great question, Edith. Um yeah, we
actually we as strange as it sounds, we actually are guilty of doing that. >> school. Yeah, we were must have been
very little. Um and we did it with a with a friend of ours. Um and I think what if I remember correctly, we had
basically had a tape recorder, our three idiot voices, and and a little acoustic
guitar. No, it was electric guitar. >> Was it electric guitar? Ooh, we were fancy. But we didn't plug it into
anything. Okay. And our show was called Butt Radio. B B U T T Radio. Yeah, so it
was very um very 7-year-old humor, I think. Yeah, and well, and a lot of what we did, too, was
we'd like talk about the pre's, you know, like the stuff in between a song. And then we'd actually record a song.
Yeah. Play a little Play a little Def Leppard. Yeah, play a little Yeah, or Duran Duran. Um
but yeah, that's what we did in in elementary school. That turned into uh my best friend growing up, um CP1.
Um we did a thing called uh our first TV show was called The Willies. Which I was not a part of.
You and your friend CP1. >> Right. And then we turned it into the Pubert and Toad Show. So, my first
nickname of any show was was Toad. Uh and we had weird outfits we wore. And The Willies was
really like kid humor and very like we had to keep it clean cuz the only people that were watching it were his poor
parents. You know, it's it's like they would have to come home and we'd be like, "Here's the tape. You got to watch
this tape." And then they had to sit through the 30-minute tape we made. And then uh the Pubert and Toad Show, we
actually um would tape record all these and then when we'd have these parties in high
school, we'd show everybody the tapes. >> I was hoping to learn something today,
and what I just learned is that in the Captain's 25-year radio career, he has never used his real name. Well, I
started off in TV. Yeah. Pubert. Were you Pubert or I was Toad. Oh, you were Toad.
>> CP1 was Pubert. All right. Another one that we get asked often is, "By covering
true crime every week, does it affect your views on the justice system?" Um pooh.
I I I actually don't think that it that it has affected my thoughts on the overall my overall opinion of the
justice system. It certainly has given me quite a bit more insight into that, but my my opinion really hasn't changed.
Um I think for the most part we do a pretty good job. It's It's a tough thing because it's never something that you're
going to bat 1,000 at. Um but I I I think where we do fail um is that it seems to me like people um that
people that don't have a lot of money or people that might be discriminated against, uh they I don't feel and never
have felt that they get a fair swing at the plate. Well, I think your analogy is
right. I mean, when you think about baseball, but in baseball, if you get 30%, if you hit 30%, you're an All-Star.
You're an All-Star. And that's kind of where our justice system is. We're not even batting 30%. I think it's
very very unfair and of people of color, very unfair of people without money. It's I think the
more we dive into it and the more cases we cover, the more flaws I see in the system and how many cases
um should have been solved and that haven't been. And really, like with anything though, Captain, it all comes
down to good people. You know, and if you have any situation, regardless of you're talking about
education or criminal justice or anything like that, if you if you have some bad people, it it's that specific
area of the system's going to be bad. Um so, we all just need to be We need to be
good, and we need to get better at what we do. Another question we get all the time. Uh
now, this one is phrased differently. "Will you ever tour, and if so, please come to the UK?"
Uh tour. I understand that like the Murderinos, um My Favorite Murder girls, they
ladies, I should say. Um great show if you haven't checked that out. I know they do a tour.
Uh I don't know if we ever will. We like the garage. Well, that >> [laughter] >> Well, the other thing, too, is we do two
shows a week. Um you know, a lot you know, a lot of people enjoy the two shows. Some people want just one show
again. By by opening it up to multiple episodes, you're actually able to spend time on the details or on your thought
processes. And the people that say, "Well, I don't need your opinion." Well, I don't need your opinion, either.
Um to me, me and Nick go back and forth on this. I I love the facts of the cases,
but at the same time, uh you know, I think it's important for us to give our viewpoints on things.
That's what we bring to the genre. That's what we bring to true crime is our background, our opinions. That's
what we can bring. Everybody has their own story, their own thoughts, and we should be willing to share those. But as
far as a tour goes, uh I I don't know. I think the the There's not enough time. The You're
exactly right. The the problem with our schedule is because of doing two shows a
week, it's very cumbersome, and we've actually doubled the workload on our end as well. So, um we would love to do a
tour. We'd love to meet everybody. Um right now, it it it's it doesn't work in the schedule. The
other question we get a lot is, "How long do we spend on an episode?" To record an episode,
you know, we normally start um the average episode is probably about 6 hours to record. Now, what we do
differently than a lot of other shows like Talking to um Generation Why and uh Sword and Scale, and and every
show does their thing differently. We actually Now, for this show, we're actually just
doing it live, and I'll go back and edit, but normally we edit live, meaning we say a couple lines, then we might
edit, then we say more lines and go back and edit. So, we kind of edit on the fly. But the whole
process, once you put in the intro, once you do um the beer fun and the ads and edit the whole show, you're looking at
about a 6-hour to 8-hour process per episode. >> And and that's just the recording of
that one episode. That has nothing to do with research or putting together notes
or or composing the music. Any You know, we we of course have to do that before we get together in the garage and sit
down to record. Yeah, and the the cases are very, I mean, because, you know, there's there's days that you can spend
12 hours just doing research. So, it's very cumbersome, and I think and then on top of that, you should try
to balance your life because we're dealing with such heavy topics, and you need that time on the weekend to
just be yourself and not be the Captain or not be Nick from True Crime Garage and not dive into these heavy topics.
So, to then, you know, to go, "Okay, well, it's Friday. I got to pack my bags and go to
Austin, Texas" or something, it's a kind of hard to do. We won't actually answer
this one, but uh what got you into true crime? We There's another Q&A show on the website if you want to check that
out. That kind of has a lot of broader answers. That was in the first season season 1, like episode 15 or something
like that. We have We give a That was a question, I think maybe our first question of that episode.
>> Mhm. "In the history of true crime, in your opinion, who's the biggest douche
canoe?" Uh that would vary depending on which day you ask me because, you know, so many so many of these
animals are douche canoes um amongst other words. They also want us to stop saying animals because,
you know, there are are a bunch of lovely animals. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I I mean that in a bad way, I guess, but
um Mhm. Uh so, just off the top of my head, if I had to pick one right now, click, boom,
I'd say Pee Wee Gaskins. Um and for reasons that I won't get into, but we we've been asked several times to cover
his case. He he was a serial killer. Um tiny little guy. Um but he did some things that I won't mention here. Um and
actually because of because I despise him so much um and I've even responded this way to a few
people that have asked us to cover Pee Wee Gaskins, I will not waste my breath discussing
uh Pee Wee Gaskins anymore. Okay. I was going to say you just you just wasted a lot of breath right
there. >> Nope. I hate him. Uh mine would just be anybody that any crimes against children. I mean
I think you heard my disdain for uh Casey Anthony, but you know, that's just one
individual. There's a bunch of them out there that did um just as bad if not worse.
And so yeah, all those would be in the category for me. I I look, I understand [clears throat] people want a one person
answer. I can't do it. What's your favorite beer? Uh today it's Black as Your Soul.
Um Uh usually it's the beer that's in front of me. But um >> [laughter] >> You know, I I actually uh
I had some beer email the other day. And one of them had one of the gentlemen had
commented saying, you know, um uh you know, "Captain, could you get Nick to drink some real beer, you know,
not not these uh you know, flavor wild beers or anything like that." I like variety. Um I'm willing to try every
beer out there. Um uh I guess if this guy meant real beer like regular American ale, American
lager. Um I I don't I like to sit down on a hot day and pull a can from a cooler.
There's something magical that happens inside that cooler when you ice down some beers all day long. And I don't
care if it's a Budweiser, a Busch beer, a Miller Lite, Miller High Life. Boo. Yeah, I like I like everything.
>> [laughter] >> I like all the beers. Uh PBR. Love a good PBR. My my favorite beer is Guinness. I
normally drink a lot of Guinness. If you would have asked him a year ago, he would have said Red Stripe. Yeah, I
drank Red Stripe for a really long time. Um Uh Dortmunder Gold would be my If I wanted a a somewhat
fancy, not too fancy beer, that probably would be my favorite one. Which case immediately turned you off and why? You
want me to answer this one? >> Yeah, go ahead. I have to think for a minute. >> I will just start with and I don't I
don't want to get hate mail. Um two cases particularly. And one is well, I'll start with Adnan
Syed's case. I'm super fascinated by that case. I've dove into that case more than
most of the cases that we've covered on the show. We've tried to find multiple ways to cover it. The last which I
thought was a clever way was that we wanted to go through a point system. Here's the major points of the
case you know, that either weigh in favor of Adnan or weigh against him. The problem with covering a case like
this and the other case would be the Steven Avery case, The Making of a Murder. The problem with those two cases
are how close people are. And when you have a case like that that you get invested in to so much
no matter what I say or what I believe will change somebody else's viewpoint of what they believe. So all it does is
create this room for animosity in those two cases immediately turn me off as far
as wanting to cover those. And we we get talked about it all the I um Adnan's case has not been brought up so much.
I think in the beginning it was a little bit. But uh the Steven Avery case has constant constantly been brought up to
cover that case, cover that case. Probably won't cover that. >> I uh I'm going to I'm going to kind of
to follow you there a little bit. Uh the Steven Avery case is a big turn off for
me as far as discussing it. Um I did watch the show. I thought the show was highly entertaining. Um I also read a
book about the case well before the documentary came out. Um and I can't think of the name of that book, but I if
anybody can find that, you probably find it if you just Google Steven Avery. I highly recommend that book. Um
that one turns me off because I Okay, so I go to this beer club. I'm in a beer club. Bunch of guys get together, you
know, every so often and drink beers. Well, you know, me being the true crime dork out of the out of the batch when
that show was going on, everybody wanted to talk to me at beer club about Steven
Avery and and get my opinion on what was going on. The problem was I didn't share
the same opinion regarding the outcome or or who is guilty or not guilty uh as they did. And it always turned in it
We go to beer club for fun and it would turn into some kind of debate. So I think that atmosphere is what turned me
off from uh that that particular case. Another one that I'll kind of lump a whole bunch of them together.
And I do like the show, you know, like the the evening time uh major network true crime shows. And I
and I I know they cover more than that, but like Dateline, 20/20, 48 Hours, things like that.
Uh those are good shows. The problem for me is 50% of the time it's like the same
case in a different location with different names. It's always the cheating husband killed the wife and you
know, it's just spending an hour putting together information to convince you of
that or to show why he is guilty. It's um it it it's just not it's just not um the the those are all horrible events,
but it doesn't intrigue me enough to want to sit there and and watch that same crime play out over and over again.
Are you going to try to solve a crime? We have. Um you know, we've we've given we've
supplied some tips. Uh we've Oh, we haven't solved any crimes. >> We have not solved any crimes. Sorry, I
should be clear about that. Uh but what I what I mean is we we have tried to help or assist
um by providing information that we've stumbled upon or information that's been provided to us. We've tried to
allocate that to the right and appropriate people in departments um and let them run with it. They're the
investigators. They're involved in in the real action. Um so we'll continue to do that.
>> Are the host of True Crime Gay Rage 420 friendly? Well, I was born on 420. So am I 420 friendly?
Uh do whatever you want to do. It's not not up to for me to tell you. Do I partake in it?
No. That's just me. I'm going to Jamaica in August and I certainly will be uh very friendly during that entire trip.
All right. Have we considered doing a video podcast? No. I'm not interested in that personally. I
have a face for audio. Nice audio face. No, I I look, I understand that some people are are
going that way with different shows. I know Joe Rogan does his show, but they also post a live feed. We're not a full
conversation show. I mean, we do have conversation, but a lot of the times is we you know, we're putting out facts.
Mhm. And that has to be done and and appropriate and appropriate way for you know, the victims, for everybody
involved and for the listener to to understand what actually happened. So it's it would be pretty difficult to
do. I mean, we could do a Q&A show like this live. Right. But again, that's a you know, we're already working as much
as we can on this show. So to add one more element, it's kind of like the vlogs. People said, "When are these
vlogs going to come out?" It's just I run out of time. And so you you have to pick your battles. Do I
reply to everybody on social media or do I make the show better for the week? Do
I do a vlog this week or do I get what I need to get done for the show this week? Well, and unfortunately, I
don't know that our format or the way we do things would would translate to a uh video type podcast.
>> Would you ever want to do a one unsolved case uh kind of like uh Up and Vanished,
which is a great show. I know they had a new episode come out today, I think, that everybody's really excited about.
So would we want to focus on one case and spend months and months on? Possibly. We've we've been kicking the
tires on that idea for quite some time. Um we have a handful of cases in mind uh
for that. So we've certainly considered doing some type of series. But we also want to stay true to what we're
currently doing uh and and hoping to give a new case, you know, every week or new case every 2 weeks.
>> Well, yeah, and we're we're actually in talks right now with a producer to start
working on a audio documentary, kind of like um S-Town. Ours would be solely true crime though. All right,
fascinating stuff with Nick and the Captain. Holding on to my Holding on to my seats.
Holding on to my seat parts. My seat parts of unknown. We'll get back to this right after a quick beer break.
>> [music] >> All right, we're back. Cheers. All right, uh question we get all the time
is research. Do we just randomly Google search information or is there certain places that you start your research
process? It it's actually different for every case and I hate hate to give an answer like that. It it varies depending
on what is out there. You know, if I can if we're discussing a subject, you know,
an author that I like has written a book about, I might I might read that book. Um
Or but yeah, some Google searches are involved. Once in a while I'll get on WebSleuths. I don't get on there every
week regarding our cases, but sometimes I'll get on there because a lot of the WebSleuths community, they have just a
message board where you can just kind of throw out your theory or question this or that about any particular case. Um so
I like to it's not so much to find out what people think are interesting on cases, but it's
it's more like finding out what's wrong with the case, what's missing from the investigation. You know, a lot of times
you really only need one or two pieces to put the whole puzzle together. And sometimes you need somebody else's input
to to locate that piece or two. >> Another question that's been asked a bunch is what case got us into true
crime. That's pretty much again on the website. It's free and it's in the store page, but it's technically free. There's
another Q&A show that I think we did on season 1. But what case got us you know, you into true crime or me into
true crime. My my first major one was West Memphis 3 and then a a recent [clears throat] case that
really got me kind of hooked back into the subject would be Maura Murray. Yeah, I I don't remember
if I went into depth with this in in the Q&A that we did back in season 1. Oh, by
the way, anybody that wants old episodes that are not available on iTunes, the first two seasons are available for
purchase on iTunes or on our website store page. And as the captain just said, there's a couple of free ones on
there as well. We still to this day get asked several times a week how do I locate your first 40 episodes or 39
episodes, whatever it is. That's where you find them. For me, when I was young, I got two
books and one was called the greatest unsolved mysteries and the other one was called
something about solved mysteries or something. Those names are not right, but that's what I remember. This was
from when I was like 11 or 12. And the first one that I read that was solved was about the
Chowchilla kidnappings. And that's an interesting case where I believe it was three guys, they hijack a
school bus and they took all of the school children on that that bus and held them for ransom. Um and it's a
solved case and fortunately nobody was nobody was harmed. I think a lot of people have a lot of PTSD still to this
day for regarding that. And then the first unsolved case that I remember reading in the unsolved book
was the Lizzie Borden case um back from the late 1800s. She went on trial for killing her father and her stepmother
with an axe. Uh this was in Fall River, Massachusetts, I believe. And she was acquitted of that at trial. And to this
day there's many many people that still believe that she's guilty. There's that old um
that old rhyme that goes Lizzie Borden took an axe and gave her mother 40 whacks. And when she had seen what she
had done, she gave her father 41. Um so >> Well, that's cute. Those were the first
two solved case and unsolved case that I remember reading about. Uh can you guys
talk about the moment where one of you said, "Let's do a podcast." and the other's reaction. I think we talked
about this before, but it's kind of funny. We're both laid off. We were laid off. Mhm. At the time when
we when we started this podcast. Um and we had actually talked about starting up a podcast jokingly
over the phone several times. And I think once we were both laid off, we had time to to take on a project.
Uh I'm not going to lie to you. I don't think we were super serious about it in the beginning.
It wasn't until we actually sat down and started recording. We didn't know what we were doing,
but we we were having fun doing it. And then people started listening. >> Yeah, but it kind of went like this.
Okay, yeah, let's do a podcast. What do you want to talk about? Uh I'm thinking true crime. And I think
we should >> [laughter] >> I still remember him saying Uh this is Nick saying this by the way.
He said, "I think we should do a true crime podcast and I think we should uh uh do a beer of the week."
>> [laughter] >> I These all sounded like bad ideas to him back then. They still sound like bad
ideas. No, but it was kind of like I was like, "What? I guess when we when if you would break down
our conversations that we would have, what, 70% would be true crime or conspiracy. Mhm. So Like
Yeah. It just kind of I mean, we don't normally talk about uh life goals and and stuff like that. So we'd always kind
of gravitate towards West Memphis 3 or JFK. JFK. We'd always end up talking about that stuff after a
drink or two and just seemed right. Yeah, or music. We talked about music a lot. That would probably be the other
subject. We we like to do this game where we get drunk where we say like uh you know, like best love song
Mhm. that's not about a girl. Mhm. You know, or best rock song not about rocking. Best rock
song about rocking. Which is obviously those about to rock, we salute you. All right, do we ever disagree on cases to
cover and not end up covering that case? We might have different answers for this
question. My answer would be no. We definitely disagree on what cases to cover from time to time. But I think we
respect each other enough that if one of us feels The thing is when we cover these cases, it's very important
that that one or both of us be passionate about the case because it will show in our research and show in
our presentation of the case. Mhm. So my answer is that yes, we disagree on them, but I believe we respect each
other enough that it it just means that we won't be covering it that week. It goes on a list and we will get to, you
know, the captain's case or my case eventually. Right. The majority of the time I think we're we both get excited
about the same case, you know, cuz we'll kind of we'll come up with nine or 10 and kind of talk briefly about each one.
And we can tell right away which ones that that we're both into. What is one case you'll never cover and why? Mhm.
Well, so I should probably give a different answer than Pee Wee Gaskins since I since I just said that. I'll just go
ahead with my answer thinking that I'm assuming that we'll never cover Adnan Syed's case.
So. Um one that we've gone back and forth about throughout this entire process is JonBenét Ramsey. We've had many
discussions about we should cover it or we shouldn't cover it. Um we're still kind of I'll speak for the both of us.
We're still kind of on the fence of whether to do it or not. Some The problem is some of these cases have been
covered so many times. Uh and if you look hard enough, some of them have been covered very well. When we cover a case,
we generally want to try to add something to the conversation. Uh bring something into the fold, you know, and
if we don't think that we can do that, we we're we're not likely to cover the case. That doesn't mean we will never
cover JonBenét. It's just one that pops to the top of my mind because the captain and I have had this discussion
many times. Is there any plans for Nick and Captain bobbleheads or beer koozies?
No plans for bobbleheads and definitely plans for the beer koozies. The problem with merchandise is again, you know, I
know, you know, there's a lot of other shows that have, you know, different merchandise and stuff like that.
Uh this is a two-person operation and that's pretty much it. We run our own website. We record all
the shows. We upload them ourselves. If you bought a t-shirt, one of us put that t-shirt in that bag. So again, it's
one of those things where it just comes down to time. And when we can find more time, we we put out that stuff. And with
the t-shirts, too, you know, we even we even go as far to be included on the process of designing what goes on the
shirt, what type of shirt it goes on, the color involved, all of that stuff. We try to keep our our hands on
everything that is True Crime Garage. Another question we get often is the is our logo the garage?
Like are we sitting in that garage? >> Right. That's a question we get often. >> That's a pretty beat up garage in that
picture. It would not be comfortable to sit in that garage and record for 6 hours.
>> Well, the first garage we sat in in the summer, it was just I mean, it was awful.
Uh the first garage that we were in for I think the first eight episodes or so. It It was just to the point where
the amount of sweat coming off of us, you know, we might record for 20 minutes and then we'd have to open up the garage
door and take another 20-minute break because we're just sweating. It was It's pretty gross. Yeah, we If you listen to
the first six, seven, eight episodes, we were actually in a detached garage, a very large one. We recorded all of those
episodes in the summertime. So it'd get very hot. And on top of that, you would hear we
would have to stop frequently because you would hear dogs barking outside or somebody honking their horn.
So so yes, we are not in the garage that you see on the picture there. All right,
another question we get a bunch is by diving into true crime cases every week and so often has it affected you
mentally? Like with in the sense of do you find it to depresses you or or what you think of
people in general? Okay, so before we started doing the the podcast I believe that I I have a gut reaction
and gut feeling to most of the people that I meet. I don't think I don't think everybody
shady. I think most people are good people. I do believe that we encounter a certain
number of bad people almost on a daily basis. One thing that I've done in my own personal life throughout the my
entire lifetime is if somebody gives me a bad feeling if for whatever reason even if I can't put my finger on it it
maybe they've done nothing at all. But if I get a bad feeling about somebody I won't go anywhere with them. I won't be
around them. I will try not to speak to them. So I've always done that. Now the thing that has affected me regarding
having the show and doing the podcast is and this is pretty depressing because I
do believe we generally live in a good world. But now I feel like I get very weary when I see a a child
walking alone somewhere. I almost feel and in stranger abductions we've pointed this out before are
actually a very rare thing that happens. Usually a child is abducted by somebody
they know and those are still rare occurrences as well. But I I don't know why it it it didn't happen right away
when we started this podcast but at some point like now that it's summertime it's
beautiful out today. I will probably see a child walking alone somewhere today and it will it will bother me or it will
cause me to look around and take take observation of the surroundings. So yes, that's I know that's a strange
thing to say but that that's one way that it has affected me. Yeah, I kind of have to put a time limit on things. It's
like when we did the ad for Mommy Dead and Dearest or the HBO documentary. >> [sighs]
>> I have to look at my work schedule and and and think to myself how much have I
actually dove into true crime this week. And if it's too much sometimes I have to
put a documentary that I maybe really want to see on hold just because I think the
constant of it can get a little dark. The other weird thing on your level is when you said
well when I see a child a weird thing that happens with me is you know you know meet
I'll meet a mom. Of course everybody's going to laugh about this. You know my friend will be a mother,
right? And it's like the kid comes up and go hey how old's your kid? Six and I I immediately will think JonBenét Ramsey
or Adam Walsh. And then somebody will go Oh, my other kids eight and I immediately think Stevie Branch.
And and that's odd or you know we're going to go get Kentucky Fried Chicken. I immediately think John Wayne Gacy. So
which before I used to think about Jaco Pastorius because he would put a little chicken bone in his pocket and he would
rub his hands with the chicken bone before he played bass. So that's definitely a change and that's
definitely you know again sometimes you have to keep those thoughts to yourself. You can't just
blurt those out. The thing that gets me sometimes is I ride my bike often. And I was riding
by the school and behind the school is kind of a wooded area and I will see things
like I was riding one day and these three boys on bicycles were riding back into the woods and probably about 8
years old. And stuff like that there's this part of me that goes do I go back into the woods and make sure
nothing happens to them? But you know you can't control every situation. So there there is there there are things
that can get you down about it but you know if it wasn't for you know a lot of people ask what podcast do we listen
to. I respect and love pretty much every true crime podcast I've listened to. I tend to not listen to them often. So
like when Mike from Sword and Scale said hey you guys seem like cool guys and you
want to do this little bit with us. He's like never listened to your show. Not because he doesn't want to it's just
you don't have a lot of time because you're producing a show and then on top of that do you want to know what
everybody else in the true crime world is doing? That's That's funny that you said Sword and Scale though because we
got an email the other day from a listener that said hey I got a case that's hi captain I got a case that's
perfect for your show Sword and Scale. So I'll get somebody got that wrong completely. It's not my show it's Mike's
show but um it's good for me to have podcast that aren't of the true crime genre to kind of you know I
shows like Chris D'Elia's show Congratulations. That show cracks me up. I really like Joe Rogan's show cuz it
can be funny but it can also get into some deep stuff. And then every week I listen to um
This American Life because I have a a producer friend that listens to it and we kind of just
always kind of talk about the episode. What was the hardest case to cover emotionally? For me it was the Tika
Lewis case. There's been a few of these that have really got to me. Um I don't know if if you know the captain
knows this but I don't I don't know if anybody else could tell this but when we covered Casey Anthony and I was reading
George Anthony's suicide note I we I had to tell the captain to stop a couple times cuz it was
at some point when you're reading that his words became my words almost in it and like it started affecting me pretty
badly. Um but I would say probably the Tika >> was crying in the garage. I would probably say the Tika Lewis
case. That was the small girl that went missing in um I don't have her information right in
front of me but I believe it was Washington state. She was believed to be have been abducted from a bowling alley.
Now the poor little girl was probably only about 3 years old. So maybe the youngest one of the
youngest victims we've discussed at length on the show. Doing the research for that case was very tough for me.
Very depressing and very emotional week that week so the Tika Lewis case if I had to pick
just one. Well, it's so weird too when you're crying in the garage not to make a joke about it but
cuz it wasn't that funny at all cuz I was I was very disfocused on coming in you know
you know Nick is leading the conversation. That's obviously no surprise here. So I have to be on my toes and know when
to interrupt when to interject. I try not to interrupt as much. I've been listening to the comments.
But I'm recording the whole thing. And so I got to you know I'm I was so focused that emotionally I wasn't in
that same realm and I I obviously didn't have to read the words but it was just like very
awkward thing where you got somebody you know crying and you're going okay okay just uh It wasn't like a It wasn't like
a a big time cry. It wasn't like choke. It wasn't like waterfall with snot bubbles
and all that. It was It was It was a big strong man choking up. Yeah, what was What's that lady that the
lady that does the snot bubbles so well? Oh, she was in doubt and she was in that
movie with uh Fences. Yeah. I can't think of her name but she man she snot bubbles every crying scene that
she does. I've been standing here by with you. I've been standing right That's what I started doing.
>> you what that is some damn good acting. If you can snot bubble on cue Oh, she's
amazing. Exactly how big is the captain's jib? Okay, well let's What does that even mean? I don't even know.
I'm 6'3" and my shoes are size 14 if that gives you I just a big burly dude. Okay, jib. What does jib
mean? It's It's actually old sailor's term which is funny because it's we didn't plan it that way. It's just
there's a bunch of old sayings that I say you know I like your jib. You know you
know that guy you know I like the cut of his jib. All it means for the people that don't know what it means. The
people that don't want to spend any I love people that you know write in what does
jib mean? It's like can't can't you just Google it? Why you got to write to me? Just Google it.
Basically it means we like your character. We like if we say we like the cut of your jib we like your character.
We like what you're made of. And that's all it is. How big is my jib? That's for your imagination. How do you
guys feel basically living in the serial killer capital of the country Ohio? What? O H I O
I feel great living in Ohio. >> I disagree with that statement. I disagree with that statement and and I
don't know numbers. I don't have you know a list of serial killers by state in front of me. I do know that Ohio has
its and has had its good share of them unfortunately. I would argue that California and maybe
um California certainly has had a ton of them. I would argue that they've had the
most. New York has had a bunch. The other thing too Washington state's a weird one because they've had a lot of
famous serial killers. So we tend to One thing that's crazy for for people that aren't into true crime that much they
think that serial killers are a very rare thing that there's only like one at every 10 years in the United States. No,
there's a whole batch of them that nobody's ever heard of. Um so that's a hard thing to say. How do
we feel about living in the he he or she said the serial killer capital of the world. I love Ohio. John.
So he's like I love Columbus. I've grown up with this city. Um Well, he hasn't grown up much, but yeah.
>> And the city has grown up with me. I feel that it's the right size of city for me. Um it's also a very
understanding and intelligent community as well. So I love living in Columbus. I
will always live here or near here. I love Ohio. And I again, California. Lots of serial killers.
All right. So >> So there John. Steve wants to know what is the captain the captain of.
>> The garage. Duh. Um Your mom. And actually he he he he technically holds no rank outside of these four walls. Um
No. I actually get annoyed by people that I'm friends with that call me the captain.
>> He he is >> annoying. He is >> a real name. >> the captain of himself. It's Gurn.
That's my real name, Gurn Blanchett. >> Gurn the third. Okay. Would we ever consider doing live
episodes in front of an audience? Sure. I'm not doing anything this evening. Uh no. Uh I will be at Jimmy's Chicken
Shack participating in the hot body contest and afterwards it will follow with a
a live true crime garage show. Guy doesn't work out enough for a hot body contest, but It's not a tough contest.
It's not a tough man contest. Would we do a live show? We've we like we've talked about touring. Would we do
a tour? Probably not. We would like to do some meet-ups and probably if we did the meet-up,
what's the point of meeting up with us? I think one to shake hands and say hi and meet everybody and tell tell you
thank you so much for for affecting our lives the way you have. I think if we did that we'd also just
kind of do it live Q&A just for fun. Would we record that? Maybe through video or something and then
you know, possibly possibly toss it up on YouTube or something. That's something I think we
should do. At you know, and we've talked about it quite a bit. I think we should
do something like that. We do like a beer tasting mixed with a Q&A and maybe a a short you know, version of a of a of
a regular episode. >> Okay. So as the show has been getting bigger, how has that affected you?
Really not at all. Other than I have to >> [laughter] >> Well, it hasn't really affected me in
any way that that's outstanding other than you know, now where I wasn't really known as a true crime guy. I was kind of
a closeted true crime dork Right. amongst some of my friends. There were some people that I would openly speak
about this you know, the reading and TV watching that I do. But now the majority of my family, you
know, all of my family is aware as well. And so other than people asking me questions regarding true crime
uh you know, constantly. It's not truly affected me in any way at all. How about you
Captain? I'm just a lot busier. You know, with the with the show doing the social media and
uh I was I was a lot more private, you know. I got a question the other day. Somebody asked me, why do you have your
Instagram as private if you accept everybody? Well, there are some people in my past that I just don't really care
for them to see what what's going on with me. So a lot of these stuff is personal and it's very odd.
Uh I mean, I've played in bands before. So you'd think that would be something um that I'd somewhat be used to, but
but I was a musician. I wasn't just a band guy. I was a normally a hired musician. So I wasn't always in promo
pictures and stuff like that. So to kind of be um just feel how um unpersonal that can be sometimes or the
comments that you get. It's almost like they're talking about you as if you're not a person and I think that
sometimes gets to me. It is it is in a weird way a bit of an emotional roller coaster because you know, when you and I
get together we put out what we feel is a really good episode. I'm I'm on cloud nine for a while. You know, I'm quite
high on it for a while and and then you know, the next morning or that evening I'll receive some negative
email or see something negative on our website and it just kind of kicks you right in the jib and you're like, oh.
You know, you you know, so so it's it is. It's peaks and valleys. Peaks and valleys. All right. Captain, how do you
deal with all the negative people that are trying to bring you down the way you approach the podcast? He sends clowns to
their house. I'll kick you in the goddamn grundle. On a serious note, I mean, when we first
started it was horribly depressing. I think we're probably episode eight or 11. Which one was Adam Walsh?
Uh probably 11. Yeah. So I think it was around there where I just told Nick, I don't I don't want to talk on the show
anymore. Just because here's the facts. All right. Just the facts, man. Just the
facts. Here's for all the just the facts people. I was diagnosed with different things,
but what I believe is I suffer from severe depression. So when you read a bunch of crap about how stupid you are
or whatever, when you're the one that's essentially putting the whole show together, that stuff can bother you. And
then one day it just hit me where it's like none of this is real. This is we're tossing this out into this
universe that I'm not really a part of. So I kind of put it in those terms. So whether it's negative feedback or
positive feedback, I try not to let either one affect me. So it's like, you know, when there's these goofy comments
on Instagram that are positive um even though they might treat you like a piece of meat,
those the good comments and the negative comments I try not to let affect me. Now
that being said, there are a different type of comment. When somebody says to me,
you helped me get through work, you helped me through my commute, to me that is normally more sincere. That's the
stuff. That's the reason why I'll put the time and the effort into it. You know, to that that's the reason why
I listen to podcast. You know, was to get from work and all that stuff. So those those those comments affect me
in a positive way where now the haters haters going to hate, ain'ters going to ain't. But even the you know, some of
the silly comments that are brought try not to you know, have one way or the other
affect me. And and I don't want to I don't want to give the vibe out that it's all negative feedback. I I actually want
to thank everybody. Um I didn't get a chance to do this because I received so many emails from people that were
sending links or copies of the Boston Globe magazine. They did a very they did really good coverage on the body barrels
case that that we covered. Um and that's it's a recent article. So I've had a ton
of people sending that to me and I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank
everybody that sent me that incredible article by the Boston Globe. How many beers do you normally drink during an
episode? >> [laughter] >> Um I would say an accurate statement would be two. Um I think
>> It used to be more. Used to be more, but then towards the end I would notice that
I was talking in circles which I which I do naturally anyway, but uh Yeah. So two would be an accurate
statement. Sometimes I just taste the beers. Again, I don't want to make it like a dark depressing episode. This is
supposed to be a fun episode for us. Uh we kind of needed a break, but we get asked all these questions. We thought uh
we'd just answer them on the show. Sometimes I just sip take a couple taste. Some episodes I'll
drink some beers, but >> [clears throat] >> again I deal with depression. So I have to
watch how much I drink on a weekly. You know, people will send me a Snapchat. Hey, what are you drinking tonight?
Well, maybe not anything. But that's just something for my own personal mental health and and physical
health. >> You know what the other thing that's fun about this show too, Captain, is it we
you know, we kind of have different things that we do for the show. We have different departments. And you know, so
the captain, if you send something regarding social media, he's going to he's going to be the one to respond.
Mhm. And if you send something regarding email or typically with the website itself with the blog that's going on
there, typically it's me that you will get the response from. So Mhm. rarely do we have a situation where we are able to
both give an answer regarding one question. So that's really I think for me the big reason why why we
wanted to do this today. >> Yeah. And if you if you're not following Nick on Untappd, you should do so. Why
am I Why is Nick on Untappd and I'm not? Nick doesn't do do any social media. Well, Nick likes to frequent bars and he
drinks a lot more beers than I do. Mhm. So that's why he and you need to follow him cuz it's pretty interesting. Have
you ever had any nightmares about the cases you covered? >> Yes. Yes, I have, but I can't specifically
hone into a specific case. Mhm. Um I told you about the time where um this is kind of
a a funny story for me. One time I fell asleep listening to a podcast, not our show. It was a true crime podcast. I
believe it might have been True Murder. Big shout out to Dan Dan Zupansky, my buddy. Dan Zupansky, the Godfather of
true crime. And I think I was listening to his show and he was talking about a a guy that had abducted some teenage
girls. And this was technically a couple of these cases were technically solved. So
he was able to give an account of what actually took place. So I woke up in the morning
and I I grabbed my the first piece of paper I could find and a pen and I started jotting things down because I
believed that I had some kind of dream that some some kind of psychic dream where I knew what happened to these poor
these poor teenagers. And then I quickly noticed that my my uh my bed phones were connected to my phone
and they were lying on the bed next to me and I checked the episode and I listened to it again that day and
realized that everything that I dreamt was because I was hearing it through the bed phones as I was sleeping. Yeah, a
lot of people fall asleep to our show or other true crime shows. I find that a little odd.
You know, just a little odd. Well, it's talk it's it's pretty much talk radio which can be
a kind of a soothing thing to listen to. Yeah, one of my producer friends has begged me to do a sleep podcast.
Where I just uh you know, talk like this and put people to sleep. I probably won't do that cuz I
don't have a lot of time. As your fan base has been growing internationally, will we start
discussing cases outside the US? This comes from Pete. We we've done a few. We've done a
Canadian case, one in England and one in Sweden. Mhm. If there's more I apologize if I can't
recall them. There are some fascinating cases in other countries that we would like to cover.
I got one that's from Japan right now that I've been looking at a lot to to try to put on the show.
There's some issues with that. It's not something that we try to stay away from. But I will throw this out
there. If you listen to other true crime podcasts that are based in other countries, 90% of the time they're
reporting on cases that took place in the United States. And I believe unfortunately that our
country has kind of been known become known for tragedy and and serial killers and stuff
like that as far as stories go in the news. Some countries do not like to provide much information on their
stories. They don't want this world perception that everybody in that country is bad. So they really
vanilla everything and that would make it tough on our end for research and presenting purposes. When is the Captain
going to reveal his real name, his address and phone number? I'm not. So you look if you direct
message me on a social media, I normally tell you I don't give I normally want you to guess a couple to
see how ridiculous it is. I think at one point Nick called me Mark on the show. And a lot of people went, oh his name
his real name is Mark. My real name is not Mark. His name is Marcus. >> [laughter]
>> The another question we get got a lot from our Facebook group. You know, we got a lot of emails.
So we kind of gathered those together, but we're also taking these questions from our Facebook group.
So if you're not following us on our Facebook, you should do so. And also a fan page that was started by a buddy or
he's been come he's becoming more of a buddy Cody and he sent us a bunch of questions from the listeners. So Did
Nick fix his squeaking chair? I have not fixed the squeaking chair. Right and it's driving me nuts. Three weeks.
Three weeks just fix the chair. You guys cover a lot of missing person cases. Is
there one that resonates with you more than others? Well, of course I think the answer will
be Brian Shaffer because he was roughly our age. He was in our community. Also the Joey LaBute case again roughly
the same age. We knew people that knew them. We hung out at places that they hung
out. So especially with me playing across the in the the courtyard from Ugly Tuna for years
and going in and out of the same parking garage that Brian Shaffer went in and out of
that case will always resonate with me. Mhm. A bunch. How do you guys decide which stories and cases to cover on the
podcast? I think we've covered this quite a bit throughout different episodes. Um
90 9% of the cases we cover are listener suggestions. We get a ton of them and I
and I thank everybody for them. Um and I want everybody to know that you know, I replied about 90% of those
suggestions. They all go on a list somewhere. By now we have a stack of list. Mhm. And
what I try to do as well is when we receive multiple suggestions regarding the same case, they get a little check
mark. And sometimes the number of check marks that a case has will have a direct
impact on how soon we cover the case. Jesse and and other people have asked What's the what do you like most about
doing this podcast and what do you like the least about it? I like the opportunity to discuss the cases.
You know, I True crime's always been a passion of mine. It's something I've always read
and followed. Um the but it's kind of a double-edged sword for me because as much as I like
it I used to be able to step away from it from time to time. You know, when there are other things going on in
my life or other interest take the front seat. You know, true crime could take a backseat. So my
favorite part is is actually researching and presenting the cases and working with the Captain, but my what what has
become my least favorite is that on some level I liked being able to walk away from it and take a break from it where I
don't feel because of our grueling schedule that's not an opportunity that I have anymore. This is an interesting
question from our Facebook group from Marie. I know you guys used to live together.
What were the worst habits you both figured out about each other? Do you want me to go first?
>> This is a really We lived together a really long time ago. This probably 15 years ago. Wow, that's crazy. It was
it was that long ago, wasn't it? >> Yeah. But we only lived we shared an apartment
for what about eight or nine months? It was I feel like it was under a year. Yeah, it wasn't that long. So I had a
roommate that moved out and He had a He had a girlfriend that moved. She ran for her life. She went all the way to
Nebraska to get away from him. Um And the the Captain was looking for an apartment and I said, hey come help me
with my bills because >> was looking for an apartment. Come help me with my bills because I can't afford
this apartment anymore by myself. Um He gave me a great deal by the way. The best part about living together was when
we would sit around and drink and play video games which we don't really play video games anymore, but I remember we
would have such I always had such a good time sitting around playing video games
with you cuz you just crack me up. Well, we watched a lot of true crime docs during that time, too. The the
habit that stands out for me the most about the Captain that drove me crazy. Okay. Okay, here we go. Cuz he's
probably got plenty of things to tell you about me that I'm hoping he leaves some of those out. Um
Okay, so if it's wintertime for some reason the Captain back then, I don't know if it holds true today.
But back then if it was winter and it was 10° outside, the Captain would wear shorts and a cut-off t-shirt and crank
the the heat up. Mhm. And if it were summertime, he would wear sweatpants and a hoodie and crank the air conditioner
up. I can never get a full gauge on why why that was the why that was the the choice of clothing.
>> Well, we worked different schedules, too. So that was a little different. Yeah. I you know, that time period of
living in that apartment uh reminded me more of you know, just kind of living alone.
Cuz it wasn't like you're there a lot. Right, I would be there at different times and you would be there at
different times. Nick would his big It wasn't a problem for me, but he would drink sometimes so much he
would walk in and he'd just be staring at his fish tank. >> [laughter] >> And I go, what the hell are you doing?
And they're they're fascinating. I'm watching my fish. And and by the way he'd have Led Zeppelin like cranked to
11 and the neighbor would be knocking. Yeah, we would get I I instructed the neighbors to not don't bother walking
all the way to the door. Just knock on the wall and I'll turn down the blaring music that I probably that I should
never had at that level anyway. And I'd always use a Mitch Hedberg line. I'd I'd
go up to the guy would be knocking and I'd go up to the wall and go, hey man, you're going to have to go around.
There's no door on my side. >> [laughter] >> But yeah, I mean but it was good. He's
he was a pretty good roommate. Emmanuel asks, have you ever gave a beer three bottle caps? If you look on my Untappd,
you will you will see some beers that I've rated as low as maybe a two or one and a half. Mhm. Unfortunately, for the
fans of sours out there, I know sours are kind of a popular trend right now. I do not like sour beers.
Rarely, I will get one or have one that somebody will suggest or hand me and and
I will enjoy it. Um but no, I don't I don't typically like sour beers. If I want something that has that
kind of flavor, I would rather just have a a glass of of wine. Um Well, and I think the other thing,
too, is like why would we have a crappy beer on the show that we didn't like? >> Yeah, that's kind of a rule. Like I I
won't put anything on the show that would be lower than like a three and a half because it's supposed to be a beer
recommendation. Um it's not just, you know, not just something to fill time. You know, we could pick a beer at random
and it be a a beer that sucks. But we're not going to do that. We're going to we're going
to go the extra mile and make sure that we're putting out a beer that we're like, here. This is something you should
experience. >> Uh Jason asked, when is the TV show coming? Tomorrow. Um it will be on tomorrow and
it will be it will be every Saturday immediately after the uh children cartoons on Saturday mornings.
>> Well, we've talked to NBC a little bit and we want to do a show called The Butler,
but that's not, you know, that's not it's not going to be about true crime. It's a show It's a show about nothing.
Well, it's a show about crime cuz the guy does crime he does a crime and then he's
sentenced to be the butler. These are These are all joking answers. We don't we don't hold any power over
um how that works out. Yeah, at the end of the day, we really enjoyed doing the podcast and we really enjoy
the listeners of the show. So, And and we've actually >> that? We've Now, we don't have anybody
beating down the door here, but we've had several people contact us, great people with great ideas, but we have
always thrown back at them and said, hey, remember, we got into this to be podcasters. We love doing our show. Um
if we were to take on another project, it cannot affect or downgrade this show in any way. Yeah, and the next big
project for us is, like we talked about a little bit earlier, is uh we're really
putting some time and effort into a audio doc cuz we just think that would be interesting to do and just a
something different for us um to kind of really understand how like something like Serial was done. Kathy asked,
boxers or briefs? Boxers. Okay. I Once in a while, maybe uh a boxer brief. >> [laughter]
>> Yeah. I'm a I'm a boxer brief man myself. No boxers for me. Uh we answered this on the other podcast, uh the other
question and answer podcast. Like I said, that's free on the store page uh at truecrimegarage.com, but do you
listen to other true crime podcast? And if so, what are your favorites? Um yes. So, just honing in on true crime
podcast, my favorites would be maybe not in any particular order, but ones that I regularly listen to. I do I
do miss episodes because we've spent so much time on this project. Um but I love
True Murder. That's no secret. Uh I like Ripper Cast a lot. Um that's a great [clears throat] show.
Sword and Scale's good. Generation Why is good. Um The Nighttime Podcast is is a favorite of mine, but they don't Not
all of those do they always cover straight-up true crime. Yeah, Jordan is great. If you haven't listened to the
Nighttime Podcast, he always comes up with uh interesting topics even if it's not true crime.
Um I'm not going to go into a bunch of details. Check that out. Tell them the Captain sent you. Eric asked, how many
moms does the Captain actually know? 37. In which ways do you think you have grown personally since you started the
podcast? Uh I've put on 7 lb. Yeah. Um Maybe they want real answers. Regarding just the podcast itself, um
I think I've gotten a little better about researching um throughout. Um We wanted to see at the start of the
year, can we do two shows? And the reason why was the more and more we got into it,
look, I understand some people just want the facts, just want the facts. That's not interesting to me.
Mhm. The interesting thing to me is the facts and then bringing your personality to the table. Mhm.
But your research has got so much better that I feel some some some some cases, for sure,
it's like you you need the two episodes just to get through the facts. Yeah, and
you know what's weird for me is there's been a couple cases that we've covered that were really covered well in the
media, whether it be news or actual documentaries or shows, um that I didn't follow when they were actually happening
um because I tend to like lesser-known cases. Um so, Casey Anthony, although everybody
around me was following it, I didn't follow it so much. So, it was very interesting to me to dive into it for a
week or so. And the Aurora theater shooter, um I didn't I didn't pay I was so I was so upset emotionally
about that when it happened that I just shied away from anything that was reported in the news at the time. So, it
was it was interesting to to dive into that for a few days. >> I need to go back when we talked about
the true crime podcast. Mhm. I just want to put this out there. I'm a murderino. I don't know
if I don't know if men are allowed to be a murderino, but I'm a murderino. Explain what that
means for people that don't know. Well, I I It's just what I think My Favorite Murder
um listeners call themselves. >> Okay. But I don't know if men can call them Somebody look that up. And also um the
Funny Girls, I've only listened to their show a couple times, but a Wine and Crime, Wine and True Crime. Uh they
always harass me about Dan. I don't know who the hell Dan is, but they harass me
about him all the time. Okay, a bunch of questions, [clears throat] but these are good questions. So,
Stephanie asked these and she said, will you ever do a case that borders um on whether it could be paranormal or
supernatural? I think a lot of people with Elisa Lam >> Lam case, people thought there was maybe
some paranormal activity. And that one was on our list for so long and we actually considered not covering it
because we, you know, so much of the talk of it was the paranormal stuff. Mhm. Um and
once you get to looking at that thing, man, you have to talk about it. You have to cover it. So, yes, we will.
Um there'll be other cases out there. There's We're getting a lot of people that want to hear uh cases that that
involve like some kind of cult presence. Um so, you know, you would have to factor that in there. Uh a question that
we that I actually get a lot, but you probably have more interesting answers than me.
Uh what are your favorite bands? >> [laughter] >> I would have more interesting answers
than you. The You know, when you ask what's your what's your favorite unsolved case,
what's your favorite band, what's your favorite cheeseburger, you know, those questions those answers would I think
with all of us would vary by the day, by our mood, where we're where we're currently located. If you were going to
throw me on an island and say you can only throw a few few albums in your box, um who would it be? I I have a hard time
living without Guns N' Roses. I love Guns N' Roses. I love The Stones. >> Mhm. Um I love a much lesser-known band
than a band called Watershed that's local to Ohio. Um they're kind of a uh mid to late '90s Midwestern rock kind
of feel. I own, you know, nobody out there will know who they are, but I own like five of their albums.
Yeah, Guns N' Roses, Stones. I tend towards more of the older stuff, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd. Um And a big
shout-out to all the Chris Cornell fans and the Soundgarden Temple of the Dog fans. I that really hurt hurt me. Uh
um He I thought for many years he was one of the best rock and roll singers, heavy rock singers out there. Uh maybe
>> also a guy I think um you know, when you're in like middle school and high school, you kind of have
these celebrities that kind of help dictate your style. Mhm. And I think uh Chris Cornell was definitely
one of those guys for you. I listened to that Superunknown album probably a thousand times. Um I listened to it the
other day when I when I got the news. And man, it we we we really lost somebody special last week and and it
makes me sad. Um Kickstand off of that album's one of my favorite Soundgarden songs. Yeah, I I said your your answers
would be more interesting because uh what I've learned through my um diving into music,
when you start studying it, then you start becoming fascinated by a lot of different spectrums. Mhm. And so,
the stuff that I listen to, that I like, some of that stuff is purely uh for the studying of
the music itself, the complexity of it. >> Mhm. So, where some of the stuff would be
like, you like that? Why the hell do you like that? Three spectrums for me. People like
Snarky Puppy, people like uh Jaco Pastorius, people like The Bad Plus. Those would be
on, you know, the intellectual studying of music side. Uh then there's people like, you know, John Mayer and Bob Dylan
and Amos Lee and the singer-songwriter side where it's going to be more lyrical. And
then I have just a you know, obsession with the sweet tooth um of just pure pop ballads.
I just love them. You know, Michael Bolton, uh Celine Dion, Whitney Houston. Yeah, I just love I think you're kind of
getting into another question that that we have on there that is, you know, what
on your on your playlist would surprise uh people? You know, what on your music playlist would surprise people? Celine
Dion, I think people would be really surprised how much I I listen to Celine Dion. For me, you know, if I'm out
partying with friends and and it becomes my turn for my phone to be the one presenting the music,
um I always get a little always get a little look when um cuz I I have a lot of Lady Gaga on my on
my devices. I love like I love Lady Gaga. I'm not going to lie. That's That surprises everybody. I like her and I
like um uh Sia quite a bit as well. Oh, yeah, I like Sia a lot, too. Uh we just lost a bunch of listeners cuz
they went The Captain listens to Selena Dijon. What do you like most about the listeners and what do you like least
about the listeners? I like everything about all of our listeners. And you don't like There's nothing you
don't like. There's nothing Uh once in a while we um I love the feedback whether
it's good, negative, or in between. Um I don't care when someone's rude or calls
me a name. I know we kind of call people names on the show, so maybe it's not fair for me to think that way.
Um but I Here's what I firmly believe. We've created a community uh and we couldn't have done it without the
listeners. They've been fantastic. Uh they're the biggest part of the community. Uh we hope that one day we
all retire together and move to beautiful parts unknown. We're currently installing a wave pool that it's going
to be amazing. Um It's only 3 ft tall right now, so we're working on that. Once we get the
funds, we're going to extend it. Send more beer fun money. Uh so I like everything about the listeners. I I
can't think of anything that I don't like because I think that people that don't like the show or don't like us or
our presentation, I think they eventually move on. So they're not part of the the community. Right. And to
stick with this, this is really interesting question. All right. So the question is, do you think that there's a
responsibility of a podcast host that are male that deal with a larger audience that is female, you know,
respecting their fans, respecting their listeners? I I think the word fan is kind of goofy.
You're a listener. You're a friend. That's what you are. You know, it's it's pretty simple.
Um but respecting their listeners by not asking for nudes and being sensitive to
cases of rape and domestic violence. Well, here's my thoughts. Okay, I I love the question. Who Do we Do we have a
name? Stephanie, I think. Yep. Stephanie, great question. But I I'll answer by saying this. I think I think anybody
putting out something for the general public to to chomp on, regardless of male or female or transgender or
whatever the situation, I think we all have a responsibility to to be sympathetic to victims and be
open-minded about who we are speaking to and and how we are presenting information. But as far as like the nude
stuff, I know that Nick I've heard some rumors about other podcasts. I don't request them. I just
send them. Right. Nick likes to send No, that's a joke. The But you know what's so funny is that's a good question from
Stephanie because what are What do we keep hearing in the news right now that that a lot of these older men that are
of some form of power on TV and different shows that we're starting to find out about things that they're being
accused of, which may or may not be true. Um here's the deal, man. People in every walk of life,
some of them cross the line from time to time. Um >> [clears throat] >> Do Do I feel responsibility regarding
that? Personally, no, because I don't think that's a line that the Captain or I would ever ever cross. Well, it's
Let's put it this way. Um >> [laughter] >> I I have received a bunch of I think inappropriate pictures.
Now, I'm I'm not I don't even know if inappropriate is the right word, but you know, when somebody sends you a Snapchat
and there's four pictures of food, right? This is what I had for breakfast. This is what I had for lunch. And then
all of a sudden it's them in the shower. Here's Here's a picture of me wearing nothing but bacon.
>> [laughter] >> Right. My reply was just it's a little odd. Why? Because I don't know you.
And I think I see you paid your water bill this month. Right. But I I think um I think that stuff is should be saved
for people that you have intimate relationships with where you're trying to learn about that person. That stuff
is not for some guy that you listen to once a week talk about murders. You know, that's You
know, that's just where I stand on it. Do you guys hang out outside of doing the
podcast? Um on occasion. Not as much as we used to because we do spend so much time uh
together with this project. Um we I think part of it is we need our space away from one another as a way of having
space away from the show and from true crime in general. Um and you know, it's exciting to to
hang out with the Captain um on most levels. The problem is we're both so eyeballs deep in this project that a lot
of times now when we do hang out, it's it feels a lot like work because we talk a lot of shop. Yeah, and we annoy each
other like so much more than we used to. So there's a lot of times where it's just like
you know, I sent him a text yesterday and then he's sending me shitty text back, you know, 2 minutes later and it's
like you have to remind him I didn't mean it shitty. Just But you know, we can It's just anytime like when you go
on vacation with your best friend and by the end of it you're like, God, I'm sick
of this dude. This guy ain't my best friend anymore. Right. Summer, Jerry. All right, next question.
Uh this one is for the Captain. Captain, you obviously produce the show and record the show. Have you produced for
any bands or recorded any bands? Well, and this kind of goes with another question cuz somebody asked, what's our
regular jobs? Do you want to start with your regular job? Uh I'm I'm involved in
property management um and I have been for many, many years. Um it's something I enjoy doing.
Um so that's kind of my regular job. He somewhat enjoys doing. Yeah. Okay, depends on the day. Yeah, well,
with any job. With any job. Right. And my mine is pretty similar. I used to play a bunch of cover band gigs.
I I have stopped doing that because of this show. This show has afforded me to be able to not play in
the cover bands anymore, which has been great. But cheers to the guys that I used to play with. Great guys.
Um but now all this stuff is just studio stuff. So if you haven't checked out, I
have a singer-songwriter that singer-songwriter record that I just did called St. Patrick and
um the album is called Tin Man. You can find that on iTunes. Uh you can We've received a lot of good
feedback on a handful of those songs. You know, people [clears throat] were always surprised when they're like, wow,
this is very uh sad and sappy. Well, that's what you get. >> [laughter] >> That's what you get. I didn't find it
all that sad and sappy, but um you know, one thing I do miss, Captain, is that I
I used to go and see his bands. Um and I say bands plural because you know, he'd do different projects
throughout the years, but sometimes he'd be playing in multiple bands at once. Um
so I always enjoyed going He would play sometimes two, three times a week. Now, I would try to go once a once a month
was usually what I like to do. Once a month or so, it was always a good time. So I do I do miss that, Captain. Well,
he always ran up my my bar tab. As much as I could. But no, so what I do for a living now is um you know, if if if more
people would buy that record, I could just do that for a living. But I I work for a producer in Australia and we do
songs for films or commercials and I do editing work that way. So audio engineering is basically the
>> [clears throat] >> the simple answer. So when you people go, your show sounds pretty good. I'm
like, well, it should because that's what I do. Bradley ask, how is Nick able to keep the
conversation going when the Captain always makes his hilarious comments? I don't find him all that funny. Um
>> [laughter] >> Ooh, jab. Um no, no, I actually I find the Captain very funny, but um
you know, I'm the true crime dork. Me, I'm I'm I'm already like merged into the the story and and how we want to deliver
it. Um so I you know, I just try to keep on pace. It's all about keeping on pace. A
couple more. Thoughts on the upcoming Browns season. Will they break 500? This is from Brian. Oh, Brian, I love you. I
love the snowball question. Um here here we go, Brian. Bad news, we will not be 500 or better
than 500, but good news. I got good news. We're moving in the right direction. I really believe that picking
up McCourty will shore up the defensive backfield quite a bit, which is going to
be important because our defensive front is going to be incredibly disruptive to
any offense that we play this year. I looked at the schedule. I'm thinking seven games is kind of the over and
under. We For those of you that don't don't know football real well, you play in a division with three other
teams. Four teams in a division and you'll play each of those three teams twice, once home and once away. I think
we'll split the division. I think we'll win three games in the division and there's there's four games in the
regular season that look to be winnable games, so I think seven. But Brian, I got good news to you, buddy. Cheers,
long distance cheers to you because I think 2018 we will crack the 500 mark. A question
that's asked often is why is the Captain always mean to Nick? I'll let you take that one. I don't know why you're mean
to me. Uh I get really frustrated and Nick will attest to this. I'm setting up the show and putting all
the pieces in place. And you know, if he messes up on a word, then I have to go back and then I'm
editing. Um I just get frustrated. I'm really bad at um He'll get mad about people mowing their
grass or we had a a nest of birds in the garage, not in the garage, in the gutter
of the garage. And um >> [laughter] >> And I can hear it and it drives me insane.
>> it and I think he thought I was doing something that was was messing with his audio.
Well, another thing too is what's that what's that thing where you hate listening to somebody eat? Uh
that's something I don't know anything about. You've You've told me about it. I There's some people I don't like to
watch eat. Right. But well, it's like I can hear every nuance of Nick's breathing and
stuff. So, sometimes that does drives me insane. Um but sometimes I try to turn that off. The
best shows are when I can just hit record and kind of turn everything off and turn off the producer side and turn
off the the audio dork side and just be a a part of the conversation. Uh interesting question is why do you tell
people to be kind and don't litter? Is that like an inside joke? Question mark. No.
Um I think everybody should be kind to one another and I don't think anybody should throw their trash on the on the
ground. Um I'm not like some big environmentalist if if that's what anybody's wondering, but
you know, a few years ago I did have a problem um because one thing that drives me nuts is when I see somebody roll down
their window and throw a a pop can out or a or a bag of of fast food. Here's a newsflash for everybody. Everywhere you
Every destination you end up will have a trash can at the other end. If you're going to a public place, if you're going
to a restaurant, if you're going to a gas station, you're going to your own home, there will be a trash can there.
If you're so lazy that you can't throw away your own trash and furthermore so selfish that you think that everybody
else should just walk amongst your trash because you're a lazy lowlife. Um then No, I just It bothers me and like I
said, a few years ago, I had to stop myself a couple times because I started I started following cars. If I saw
somebody throw something out, I'd follow them for a little bit like I was going to do something at the end of that ride.
Um No, I just think we we live We're fortunate enough to live in a beautiful planet
and in a beautiful surrounding. There's if you have any future at all, you would
want to keep it beautiful for yourself and the rest of us. Bonnie asked, have I ever tried cheese on an apple pie yet?
Have I done that? No, I'm not I'm not a psychopath. I've tried it once, not since the show.
>> You're a psychopath. I tried it once. Not going to do it. Well, maybe I'll do
it one day. We'll do a meet up. Somebody bring some apple pie with some cheese on
it and I'll I'll I'll eat it. >> Here's why I tried it. There's a part in Pulp Fiction
where I believe it's Bruce Willis's girlfriend. And she's been waiting for him all day
long at the hotel. Uh-huh. And all she wants to do is go to the diner and get a nice meal and get a piece of pie with
cheese on top. And so I thought, wow, I've never heard of that before. This is crazy talk.
>> This right psychopath. >> I I was I was hanging out with my grandmother recently after that after
seeing that movie and thinking about the cheese on the pie. Mhm. And cuz I was wondering if it was like an old school
thing that I just didn't know about. She said she had many times in her life had
had cheese on her pie. >> psychopath. [clears throat] And um Thanks for talking poorly about my
grandmother. It's fine. That's rude. Um but yeah, so I tried it. Uh didn't love it. All right, [laughter]
we'll do let's do two more questions and get out of here cuz I got to do some work.
Uh John asked, have you ever and we get asked this all the time, when are you going to start a Patreon site?
I don't think we're going to. >> We're not going to. Um we know that other shows do it. They do
a release if if you release early. Here's the fact of the matter. And then the people that say, don't do ads. Go
back to not doing ads. The ads is what affords the show. We couldn't do two shows a week without
ads. Right, cuz we have to spend a lot of time and energy on it as a way to supplement it. It's also a way
that you don't have to supplement it. We're not asking for your dollar. We're getting dollars from the ads and then
that way we can put out free shows and we'd rather put out eight free shows a month or whatever it come you know, two
two free shows a week than to charge you more show you know, for more shows. Now
we do have some bonus episodes that we're doing and some of those are going to be just
you know one parters Mhm. and things like that. Um Well, and we've been lucky though too
because with with our show, we had this dumb idea about beer money. You know, buy us a round for next week's show and
everybody has been overly generous with that. You know, we we do get a good response from that and
>> we're currently way behind. So >> can only do so many shout outs a show and I apologize that we haven't got to
you yet, but we do do them on a first come first serve basis and so we will get to everybody
eventually. Um we understand why other shows do the Patreon. I think it's a great thing and it works for their
platform and their show. Um our show like I said, we got the beer fund built in there, so it's not it's
not really necessary. >> Right. Like we said, we're way behind on it. So, sometimes people message us and
go, hey, I donated last week and I haven't heard my name yet. You're not going to hear your name for a couple
weeks. We're behind. So And we apologize. And we apologize. >> But it's out of our control. But we're
also not going to spend you know, 10 minutes of the show thanking people. No, but we could do like once every 3 months
we could do a drunken Nick uh shout out show where it's just me butchering everybody's
names and locations and Right. you know. Nobody wants to listen to that. Okay, so
the last question we'll do for this Q&A session is has any >> Britney in Phoenix wants to hear that
episode. No, no, she doesn't. >> [laughter] >> Have you been recognized in person?
Since birth? Have you been recognized from the show? No, I don't think I that I have. I've I've had people um Look at
you funny. >> [laughter] >> Um I Nick told me this story one time where he's like he's I had a True Crime
Garage shirt on and and these people were kind of looking at me funny. Yeah, yeah, I did I did have that
happen. Um but I've had other people you know, tell me later that somebody came up to them and said, hey, was that um
was that the Captain or was that Nick from from True Crime Garage? So, no, I've not experienced it first hand. Uh I
had a listener message me. I was at a local pub that I like to go to Hop Yard 62, I
think it's called. I just call it Hop Yard. >> You just called it something, but it's
Hop Yard. Yeah, and I I like to get their flights. Um the only annoying thing about those
guys is you just say, just give me a flight. Well, what what you want? Just whatever. I'm Well, what do you like?
Just pick. Just That's why I'm here. It's for you to pick. In their defense, they're not
used to that that I know. I know. type of ordering. So, we're outside and we're you know, drinking my flight and I guess
somebody heard my voice and was like, oh my god, that has to be the Captain. Uh and then they never came up and said
hello. They messaged you later that they had seen you somewhere? Yeah, well, the I
think the girl's husband said, hey, me and my wife were here and we thought it was you. We couldn't tell. We tried to
listen. I said, just you should have came and said hi. I would have bought I would have bought beers for everybody.
Uh I had a lot of flights that night. I got a little out of control. That's what
I like to call around the world. Right. Well, that's what I like to call emptying out my savings account. Um
No, but just you know, just be nice and respectful and just know I mean, I'll kick the [ __ ] out of a
clown's junk. Don't think I won't kick you if you get out of line. That's all I'm saying. But
if you recognize us, which you probably won't unless you're in Columbus, um come say hi. Have a beer.
All right, that's enough of the questions. That's enough of the business. Uh that's enough of the questions.
Thanks for Thanks Aurelia at our Facebook page for the help. Thanks for Cody on the the fan page. If you haven't
checked that out on Facebook, it's it's it's actually really cool. It's not so much like, oh, let's
let's talk about how awesome Nick and the Captain are. It's more let It's a kind of a group discussion
about the cases. Mhm. So, if you listen to the episode and you have some thoughts and opinions, that's kind of
what they do there. And it's pretty cool and it's run by a good guy named Cody. Uh
as always, follow us on social media at True Crime Garage Snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, Untapped, all that stuff at
True Crime Garage. And thank you to everybody for joining us in the garage this week and thank you especially to
those of you that submitted questions for the Q&A show. Mhm. We can't wait to see you back here in the garage next
week. Until then, you better be good, you better be kind, and please don't litter.
>> [music]

Q&A ////// Episode: 109 /// True Crime Garage

Original Release: 5-23-2017

You want answers? Do you think you're entitled to answers? Well we've got answers. You want the truth? Well maybe you can't handle the truth. The True Crime Garage Army has asked and shall wait no longer. After many requests to do a Q&A show we have decided to invite everyone into the garage for a round of beers. Join us as we answer your questions.

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Brief Summary

Nick and Captain answer listener questions about true crime cases, podcasting, and personal experiences in a light-hearted Q&A session.

Key points

Q&A Session Begins. Listeners ask questions, including which case the hosts would like to solve.
Podcasting Advice. The hosts give advice for aspiring podcasters, emphasizing passion and resilience.
The Magic of Beer. There's something special about pulling a cold beer from a cooler on a hot day.
True Crime Podcast Origins. The hosts discuss how they jokingly came up with the idea for their podcast.
Impact of True Crime. The hosts reflect on how their podcasting journey has changed their perception of people.
The Tika Lewis Case. A deeply emotional case that affected the host profoundly.

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