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mind this is a missing person's case so perplexing and so unpredictable that thousands around the world have been
riveted by the inexplicable disappearance of this young woman this is a case with far more questions than
answers a story in which no one is even sure when it began yet it is a tale rif with Clues
Intrigue and evidence in many missing persons cases we discuss there is some for shadowing
in the victim's life that something bad is going to happen maybe they were going
through personal turmoil or they were in abusive relationship maybe they were making
questionable choices or leading an unsafe lifestyle sometimes a person is unhappy
and they choose to run away or maybe they spiral into addiction or Worse we're going to say this upfront none of
this was the case here with this missing person's case this is true crime garage
and this is the case of Jennifer [Music] kessie Jennifer was born on May 20th 198
81 to loving parents Drew and Joyce kessie she her parents and her younger brother Logan were Incredibly Close
Jennifer was born in New Jersey but the family moved to Tampa Florida when she was a child as a kid Jennifer was always
very responsible and well behaved she got good grades had a ton of friends and she got along with her parents Jennifer
truly was a golden child with blonde hair big bluish green eyes she grew up to be 5' 7 or 5'8 tall 130 lb she
graduated high school and moved on to the University of Central Florida where she majored in finance after switching
from Premed Jennifer worked hard and was serious about her schooling and Ambitions when she graduated in 2003 she
had multiple job offers she accepted a job with CFI Westgate Resorts in okoi this is a massive time share company
where she had interned while in college she recently was promoted to manager of process engineering at the age of 24
right she was the youngest employee to earn a promotion to management she was working on streamlining a new Mortgage
Debt system installed by the company the CFI Westgate owner is David seagull a somewhat
showy I I have to laugh at my own words here a very showy individual he's well known he's a multi-millionaire who built
a house so large 90,000 Square ft that it was featured in the documentary the queen of versales which if you haven't
seen that it is total like guilty pleasure sit down eat popcorn drink beer watch that documentary Jennifer loved
her job and had good friends in the division of the huge company she worked worked in she was a creature of habit
many people would probably describe her as type A she was the kind of person who
left for work at the same time every day who planned her outfits in advance who had common sense and who was not afraid
to stand up for herself and speak her mind right although Jennifer was self-confident independent and didn't
take crap from anyone she was also fun Jennifer had a lot of friends both from childhood and her sorority in college
all of whom describe her as a wonderful person who was a great and loyal friend and who could be counted on she was
obsessed with the New York Giants and insisted on watching every game she loved the Dave Matthews Band shopping
and the beach Jennifer made an amazing mac and cheese and drank beer and loved to dress up and go out at night but she
was always in bed at a decent hour and at work on time the next day Jen had a tiny tattoo of a shamrock on her left
hip I found this interesting I have a couple friends like this that have a lot of safety measures that they take some
precautions that they take seems like Jennifer was really into that yeah she has been described as very cautious and
also aware of her surroundings she never walked alone at night if she could help
it always locked her car doors and carried pepper spray which was purchased for her and all of her friends by her
father drew some of this is attributable to her parents who having been mugged at gunpoint years
earlier they were sure to teach their daughter about safety and awareness some of it was because Jennifer was a big fan
and watched a lot of Law and Order SVU which will if you watch enough it will scare the crap out of anybody Jennifer's
mother even says that Jen knew to deliberately crash her car in the event that she was carjacked to set off the
airbags and have a chance to escape she also knew that in the event she was ever
placed in the car trunk that most trunks have internal latches or you can kick out the tail lights to attract attention
right up until November 2005 Jennifer lived with her friend and roommate in Metro West it's a planned Community but
her roommate was getting married so she needed to move on right around Thanksgiving 2005 24-year-old Jennifer
purchased her first home for $27,000 this was a condo in a complex called Mosaic at Millennia right that
was being converted from Apartments to condos in the height of the Florida real estate bubble yeah but this area wasn't
super great it was located by a mall a new mall this is what I call when you have a
an area that's trying to be a nicer area and it's also kind of surrounded by poopy areas oh that's those are real
estate terms yeah poopy yeah you don't want to live here it's kind of poopy half of the complex was still being
constructed and the other half was being converted over from Apartments to updated condos
now Jennifer's unit number 2226 was in building 22 on the second of three floors Logan cessie described the
Mosaic at Millennia as a literal construction zone this complex was located at 3573 Conroy Road and featured multiple
buildings fronted on a very large pond and had an even larger wooded area behind the
complex Jennifer's parents helped her pick out the place it was right across the street as the captain said from a
fancy new shopping mall called The Mall at Millennia which featured retail shops
and eateries the newspapers at the time described the Mosaic at Millennia as quote upscale gated and fenced
but it's a fair statement to say that the area was just newly becoming nice and that it bordered on some areas that
were not so upscale yeah well and it's also not gated at the time because there's so much construction going on
there are Gates they are not being closed or used properly and we'll get into that heavily later right some of
the neighboring areas have even been described as sketchy or poopy or poopy uh Mosaic of Millennia is your typical
pastel colored Florida stucco buildings with open air hallways leading to the condos this was still a major
construction zone just like her brother described and this place was not close to maximum capacity news reports from
2006 indicate that only about 250 of close to 500 units were full and only one other condo on Jennifer's floor was
even occupied many of the condos were still being renovated and were empty and in fact it came out later that many of
the workers that were employed in the construction project were permitted to live or stay for a while in these empty
condos while they worked the job one well-known story is that Jennifer who had only been living in her new condo
for about 3 months when she vanished had told friends and family that while she loved her new place face this was a very
nice condo by the way with a balcony overlooking a pond granite countertops and her own laundry room she did not
like the workers she told people that the workmen cat called at her and whistled when they saw her for anyone
especially a young woman living alone this is quite an uncomfortable situation her parents who lived about 2
hours away encouraged her to report this Behavior to the manager's office but it
does not seem that Jennifer ever did so Jennifer refused to allow anyone into her condo when she was not home but when
she first moved in her condo needed some finishing touches like paint and plaster
so she would come home from work on her lunch break let the workers in and stand
there with the door open to the hallway on the phone with a friend or her parents while the men worked she always
locked up after she left there seems to be no way to track who all the workers were
on site at the time some of them were undocumented workers with no papers who were probably doing a lot of work under
the table right there were no surveillance cameras in place at the complex just yet well like you said some
of the workers were permitted to stay in the empty buildings correct but I guarantee you there was other workers
that were staying that weren't allowed or people didn't even know that they were staying who's to say that this
worker staying in a condo or in a unit couldn't have friends over or people that that worker knew right you know
staying for a weekend or a couple of days it's just there's a lot of things going on in this condo complex is what
we're trying to point out that there's no real checks and balances of these types of activities and movements and
there was also virtually no security at the armless gate when Jennifer lived at mosaic at Millennia The Unfinished work
and progress nature of the buildings meant that lots of workers gardeners maintenance workers and so on were
constantly coming and going no one kept track and according to the cesses when Jennifer disappeared and her story broke
all over the news many of the workers seem to just disappear or evaporate they did not want to be be
under scrutiny even if they were not involved in any way in her disappearance Jennifer had been dating
someone for about a year when she disappeared this was Rob Allen he's an English soccer player who lived in Fort
Lauderdale almost 3 hours away they had met at the tiki bar in downtown Orlando in
2005 Rob was 8 years older than Jennifer but the two seemed to be a good match since Jennifer was somewhat mature for
her 24 years of age they spoke multiple times every day and the two of them alternated trips to stay with each other
taking turns every weekend Rob figures heavily into this story Into the story of Jennifer's disappearance since he was
the last known person to speak with her Rob has grown very close with the kessie
family and remains so to this day well I'm back to your one point it's really hard to have undocumented workers
because we don't know what kind of criminal history that they have and so in this case too we have the
undocumented workers staying in the same complex as the owners yeah and the other
thing I want to point out too to top all of that off we have the the false sense
of security that some of the Optics provides for the condo owners right there's they are sold that this place is
gated and secure I'm here to tell you it's neither and there seems to be no question of
what happened to Jennifer kessie in January of 2006 Jennifer was abducted everyone including the Orlando Police
Department agrees to this but the remaining questions surrounding her disappearance is who took her how did
they take her and even when did they take her all of this is unknown even to this day let's go through the timeline
of The Disappearance of Jennifer kessie to establish what we know and what we do
not know on Wednesday January 18th 2006 Jennifer drove from Orlando to her boyfriend Rob Allen in Fort Lauderdale
this was after work on Thursday January 19th the two of them flew from Fort Lauderdale to St Croy for some
RNR they stayed in a condo there this is with family friends of robs photos of the two show them doing the usual
vacation type things they're at the pool they're relaxing in the sunshine they were scheduled to fly back to Fort
Lauderdale on Sunday but for whatever reason their flight was cancelled so after some scrambling around they
managed to get a flight to Miami and have a friend pick them up to make the 40-minute drive back to Rob's Place
Jennifer got up at 6:00 a.m. on Monday and after Rob filled the gas tank her gas tank and her black Chevy Malibu for
her she made the 3-hour Drive North all the way up to Orlando and went straight to work that day according to Jennifer's
work colleagues she had a normal day at work she raved about her trip and said she didn't want to leave around 6:00
p.m. she stopped in and said good night to her boss this is John Wilman she got in her car and drove the 12 miles home
her cars transponder said that she went through the usual toll at 6:15 p.m. that
day do we know how many miles it is from her boyfriend's house to her house it's
a little over 200 miles now while she was in her car on her way home from work she did call her parents Drew and Joyce
to tell them about her trip she also spoke with her brother Logan who was living with their parents at the time
right Jennifer had given Logan a set of keys to her condo he was just 21 at the time and Jen had given permission for
him to stay at her place while she was away this is with some of his buddies with Logan at Jennifer's place that
weekend was Travis borgan Yang a longtime family friend of the kessis and joining the two of them was a guy named
Matt this is Jennifer's ex-boyfriend Logan and Matt remained friends despite Matt and Jennifer breaking up Matt
didn't actually stay at Jen's condo he lived in Orlando so he's very close only about 30 minutes away he just hung out
there with the other two guys the family says that Matt took the breakup with Jennifer very hard and he
continued to pursue Jennifer for quite some time yeah it's not clear where things stood in January of 2006 because
we know that Jennifer had been dating Rob for it seems like years or over a year
and rumors are that Matt had moved on to a new girlfriend right on the phone with
Jennifer Logan told Jen that Travis his buddy had inadvertently left his work cell phone at her condo and he needed it
for work ASAP Jennifer agreed to find it at her place and she was going to FedEx it or
UPS it to Travis the next day the family is unequivocal about this Jennifer planned to bring Travis's cell phone to
her work with her on Tuesday and send it out at that time right again Jennifer's
family says she was a creature of habit so they can predict or they say they can
predict what she did next she arrived at home at the condos at Millennia and parked in her designated spot this is
number 2226 the same as her condo unit that was very near the bottom of the stairwell
that went up to the second floor where her condo was it's literally a matter of maybe 30 ft to her spot from the stairs
yeah it was dark out when she arrived home she brought in her luggage from her trip which was later found still packed
in her condo she checked her mail which was also found in her condo at the main office on her way in it isn't known
whether she ate anything her parents say that there were no takeout containers in
the trash so perhaps she just ate something from the fridge which did have food in it right and likely changed into
her sweats which she always wore at night when home then got on the phone yeah Jennifer's going to get on the
phone but her condo had notoriously bad cell phone service according to her parents the phone or her cell phone only
really worked and this would be sporadically when she was out on the balcony so when at home Jennifer would
usually use her landline the Orlando Police have all of her phone records but have never
released or discussed them in fact the Orlando Police Department has been incredibly tight lipped about this
entire case releasing virtually no information this has resulted in a major legal dispute now now that night Jen
spoke with her best friend from childhood this is Lauren McCarthy the two were as close as sisters and shared
everything Lauren told ID's disappeared that Jennifer told her on the phone that
she had a great time on her trip but that she and Rob were actually having some trouble mainly with the distance
that they live from one another the distance between was providing this trouble and neither one of them wanted
to move to correct this right this of problem yeah anybody that's been in a long relationship
understands that this is a very common situation Jennifer may have talked to other friends that night but we don't
know for sure as said they've not released the call records but we do know that Rob told the police and Jen's
family that the two of them had a phone conversation on Jen's landline as they did did basically every night this one
was at 9:57 p.m. Jen told Rob that she was in bed when they spoke the two argued on the phone a bit it isn't known
exactly what they discussed but Lauren told Greta vanister that Jen was quote feeling the distance end quote Rob and
Jen wanted to be together but neither was willing to commit to moving Rob later said that
he wished that he had told Jennifer he loved her in the year that they were dating since he hadn't it's possible
that she was questioning his commitment and it sparked an argument in any event Rob was the last known person to speak
with Jennifer and this is the last of the concrete facts for that night again this call this conversation ends around
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cheers now the next morning Tuesday January 24th 2006 Jennifer had an important meeting
at work this was scheduled for 11:00 a.m. her typical routine was to leave for work between 7:30 and
7:45 she may have left early on that morning if she intended to stop at a FedEx to send off Travis's phone but it
is more likely that she intended to do as she said and make use of the FedEx services at work Rob and Jennifer always
spoke by phone in the mornings when they were apart Jennifer would call him from
the phone on her way to the office here's what Rob told Nancy Grace quote every day she would either call me just
to say good morning have a great day or just text me to wish me to you know have
a good day love you that type of thing and when I didn't receive it Tuesday morning I thought it was odd end quote
Rob chocked Jen's being Mia up to being busy just getting back into the swing of
things after this short little vacation right but after a while he called her cell this was before his 9:00 a.m.
meeting at work and he got her voicemail he tried again a little later but got the same result Jennifer didn't show up
for her 11 a.m. meeing Not only was this totally out of character it was completely unheard of Jennifer was known
for her punctuality and if she had planned on missing work at all she would have called in to say
so after calling her cell phone and repeatedly getting her voicemail her boss John Wilman had the IT department
check her computer calendar and it showed that she knew about the meeting that day and had planned on attending it
was so unusual for her to be absent without any explanation at all right that her boss ended up calling
Jennifer's parents and sometimes in cases we see this people not taking action right away and you got to applaud
her boss for doing so I I do applaud her boss for doing so but I do want to point
out it seems to me like look with with these very popular cases the ones that are more well known right you know
there's hundreds of thousands of eyes and ears on these things I've notice though it seems like
the employers or whoever notifies whomever or does not notify anyone they're like vilified either way right
because I've seen especially in this case where they're like well after only a few hours why are they reaching out to
her parents um they saying that it seems unusual no and I feel like look we you and I and all these other people that
are questioning this Behavior they do not know Jennifer kessie they do not know the relationship
between her and her employer and the people she worked with the co-workers we don't know that we're going off of
reports so I bring that up only because I don't find it to be strange and I think that it might given this situation
and what we told about Jennifer and and about this company and her co-workers it
might be more strange that they didn't call anybody and and keep in mind this is after repeated attempts of trying to
reach Jennifer herself right and I think if I was working with people in general
and opposed to animals as opposed to you you filthy animal or or even you know if
we're supposed to get together to record in the garage and you didn't show up and
you didn't call and then I called you and it went right to voicemail multiple times I try to get a hold of somebody in
your family well some Reports say that this call to the parents was either because Joyce kessie was listed as Jen's
emergency contact and some say it was because John Wilman was a friend of Drew kessie either way Jennifer's parents
were notified that she had not shown up for work or for this meeting right and this was reason enough for them to go
into panic mode Joyce kessie was at a Kinkos at the time copying materials for her work presentation that day when she
got the call she walked out immediately leaving everything behind to be shredded
Jennifer's parents called both her cell phone and her home phone and of course we know that they're receiving no
answers her cell phone went directly to voicemail Drew kessie told Nancy Grace that this was the first time in 8 years
that Jen had a cell phone that she did not answer his call right Drew was stuck at home waiting for Travis to get back
from the gym with Drew's car Travis hadn't taken his phone and Drew didn't know the name of the gym so Drew made
some phone calls first to the Orlando Police Department then to the property manager at mosaic at Millennia the
property manager reported that Jennifer's car was not in it parking spot at the cessy's request he knocked
on Jen's door and then opened it and looked around and said he didn't see anything unusual when he reported this
the Cassies became very alarmed Drew and Joyce and Logan and their friend Travis
in two separate cars set out for Orlando which would be a 2-hour drive on the way
Joyce called Rob and some of Jennifer's friends who had not heard from her either and she also called hospitals in
the area thinking perhaps Jennifer was in an accident well think about what her brother's going through at this moment
too you're really close with your sister and your dad is saying hey look we're going to be taking a drive cuz your
sister's missing that'd be frightening stuff right and he had just stayed there at her place that weekend right Travis
and Logan arrived at mosaic at Millennia around 300 p.m. and the kessis arrived around 3:15 Rob also arrived on the
scene they convened in Jennifer's condo where this is what they found okay they found the door was locked when they
arrived it was also reported to be locked when the complex manager checked on it right from what I can gather one
needs a key to lock the door from the outside so either Jen locked it or someone used her key to do so right but
just to be clear I'm assuming her parents had a key I don't know if her parents had a key I think they may have
but we do know that Logan had a key because he stayed there that last weekend the lights were off Jennifer's
bed was unmade now laid out on the bed were two work outfits in the tan and black color scheme her new 9 West
alligator pumps were missing this is interesting and this is this could be key here this is a pair of shoes that her
mother was well aware of these are shoes that they had discussed on the phone many times remember Joyce and Jennifer
have a daily phone call her luggage from her trip was still in the hallway remember it's still packed at this time
she had not unpacked her luggage from that short weekend trip her mail was on the counter and some of the junk mail
was in the trash which was otherwise empty other than this junk mail there was no evidence that Jen had ate
anything for dinner was not obvious that that took place but we would later learn
that she had not used her credit or debit cards and there were no containers or dishes lying about MH the clothes she
wore to work on Monday were hanging over the back of a chair her t-shirt and underwear which her family says she
normally wore this type of thing to bed they were on the bathroom floor and our contact case was empty and they found
her glasses I'm I'm assuming on the bathroom counter yes they were on the bathroom sink counter in the contact
lens's case was found to be empty her makeup and hair dryer were on the bathroom sink as well and you know it's
thought that where these items were left that someone had possibly recently used
them or used them that morning mhm in the shower there were still puddles of water this is in the corner shelf areas
surrounding the shampoo and cleanser bottles there was a damp towel draped over the washing machine in the laundry
room a portable can of pepper spray was on the kitchen counter remember we discussed earlier that she carried
pepper spray on her keychain this was purchased for her by her father but he is guessing that Jennifer had to leave
it at home since she could not bring it on the airplane on the flight to St Croy
right that would make sense take it off the keychain and for whatever reason it's still sitting
there which is has got to be driving the parents nuts she's missing they're checking out her apartment pepper spray
on the countertop the evidence we have right now you can go well she she talked to her boyfriend at night she probably
slept in her bed it seems like then she woke up she got ready for work we have the puddles in the shower got the wet
towel it seems as if everything would add up that she left the apartment my mind would immediately go to and this
makes sense as to why Joyce called the the area hospitals mhm with her car not being there and the appearance that she
got ready for work and probably kept to her routine my mind would immediately go
to either we're just missing something here and she arrived incredibly late at work for some reason or she was involved
in a vehicle accident on her way to work and we can't find her or get a hold of her that's where my mind would go to in
that that instance well again this is why I think people need to jump into action because let's say it was some
thing where Jennifer was going to work and her her phone was messed up and she decided to stop and get a new phone
before she got to work and she was running late so she couldn't call um because let's say the phone stopped
working on the way to work or whatever that eventually you're going to find her safe and you're going to go well maybe
we overreacted but it's better than to [Music] on the counter and the condo directly
across from Jennifer's was found to be unlocked Logan her brother found this and went inside and he said that it was
empty and found that the condo unit had no carpeting according to her parents Drew and Joyce Jennifer was a morning
shower person she always showered before work and never showered in the evening so after seeing what we just
said they observed in the condo they came to the conclusion that Jennifer probably woke up for work on the morning
of the 24th showered as usual got ready for work we talk about what was there at
the condo what they found in the condo but let's talk about what was missing because what's missing from the condo
clinched this belief for them that she got up performed her normal morning routine and then something happened
here's what was Miss Travis's Nextel cell phone which Jennifer had told Logan she would FedEx
from work the next day Jennifer's cell phone this is a Verizon LG flip phone Jennifer's purse which included her
driver's license her iPod which apparently she took this with her everywhere her car keys there her car
keys are on the same ring as her house key and her mail key Jennifer's briefcase was was also missing which is
often left in her car or even in her car trunk sometimes overnight this is according to her
friends and her car is missing this is a Chevy Malibu right and I would bet that
everyone is kind of thinking the same thing here everything that was missing Jennifer would have taken with her to
work that day but as we know she never made it there so what the hell happened yeah what happened and when did it
happen yeah and that's really a big piece of this case I believe it's I mean it's a huge missing puzzle piece really
what we have here Captain is we have a 957 p.m. phone call that ends and we have an 11 a.m. meeting that
she was scheduled to attend that meeting seems to set off all these alarm bells that she is not where she is supposed to
be right and that there's something going on so that gives us a 13-hour window of time when something went wrong
now right but we can start assuming with the evidence that she slept in her bed and she woke up at some point and she
was heading to work possibly the other thing you can do here is instead of working with the 13-hour window of time
we can assume that maybe we could minus 3 hours or so off of that because her regular time to arrive at work would be
roughly 8:00 a.m. right so you know now we're working with a 10-hour window and but don't you think the evidence and her
condo suggests that she one slept there and then two got ready for work yes I lean I certainly lean that way there are
plenty of people that make good strong Arguments for something could have happened late that night mhm and I think
it's worth examining but I'm with you I feel like the evidence that we see points to everything was normal up until
the time she was supposed to leave for work or just before yeah and I think maybe he it's a I don't know if they did
this but could you just test the towel if it's her DNA and then you would start assuming again that she took a shower in
the morning and not at at 1: p.m. I can say that was not done right so we just don't know now was probably a good time
to discuss Jennifer's parents Drew and Joyce Cassie it's safe to say they were not the typical powerless family members
of victims that sometimes we see in these cases who have no choice but to put their faith in law enforcement and
wait patiently for answers as far as the cesses are concerned Jennifer's disappearance understandably so was an
unmitigated disaster and they were not going to take it lying down they immediately became activists outspoken
Advocates outspoken advocates for their daughter's case as Drew told a CNN reporter in 2009 quote we both have big
mouths we know how to use them and we will do everything within our power to give her the best chance of being found
Drew and Joyce are both smart articulate motivated and in Drew's case somewhat intense people being realistic about why
people abduct women Drew said they abduct them to rape them and kill them they sprang into action immediately yeah
I mean one of he one of the things I heard him say was they don't kidnap a a female to just put her in the corner and
look at her yeah yeah but at least he's being real at least he's being honest and I think that's also a cry out to the
public if somebody took her the chances are the the reasons they took her for very bad reasons yeah and that's and
this needs to be some this needs to be important right and it's in it's important that he remind the public of
what the likely actions were by the offender because somebody may have knowledge there's just no victim's name
attached to that knowledge sometimes people brag or tell stories and they tell of their actions but they don't say
who they did that to right and this is a case where we need help from the public
the Cassis immediately dropped everything in their lives this is an interesting move but I think it shows
the level of their commitment to finding their daughter finding out what happened
to their daughter and their intelligence as well they moved into Jennifer's condo
they actually lived there fulltime for several months while they pushed law enforcement to find their girl this is
good for many reasons I really believe that the the condo complex is at the center of this whole
case so if there was any knowledge to learn about that condo complex or who may be going in and out of there MH one
could gain that knowledge by living there by being there after hours being there on the weekends so on and so forth
but on top of that they live in Tampa it's going to be a mess to try to keep law enforcement on top of their
daughter case and be 2 hours away from 2006 until the present day they have been constant a constant thorn
in the side of the Orlando Police Department they hired private investigators they put flyers everywhere
they held press conferences they got Jennifer's face on the sides of buses in Orlando they handed out playing cards
with Jennifer's face to prisoners to try to drum up up tips yeah and it wasn't just her face they ended up taking a a
bunch of different missing people and putting them on the cards that shows the level of
their just the goodness in their hearts well yeah they're trying to help their daughter's case and other missing
person's cases right but also the sophistication that their brains can think hey wa we we have heard that
sometimes by this is a tactic that people use and then why prisoners are playing with the cards somebody comes
out and says hey I know this person mhm Drew even got miked up and went into death row to meet with a prisoner who
claimed he had information sadly it turns out this was just a hoax was this the guy that
um he he was on death row but he claimed to know things about a lot of different
cases and and I think this is the guy that they said if he brings up whoever mhm that you'll know right away that
it's the whole story is [ __ ] he had nothing to do with it or has no knowledge right but think again put your
brain into the the mind of the the father you have this beautiful daughter she's gone missing you have no answers
hey there's this guy on death row he might know something you know this guy is a bad mama jama right and you have to
get miked up and go into a room with them and then knowing if he brings up so and so that the whole story is [ __ ]
and so you're hopeful that you get some kind of information or some kind of lead
and you're sitting across the table from this creepo and then he brings up that name and then it'd be want to talk about
a roller coaster of emotions the whole time and it's been going on for many years they set up a Facebook page or
Facebook pages and established the Jennifer ki.com website which is still very active today if anybody wants to
look that up it's it's Jennifer J NN f r kessie is k s.com they contacted every Consulate in
the United Nations as a result Jen is listed as missing on interpole and vicap the cessy's documented everything
they came across in their search for their daughter and they participated in countless tv specials news stories and
podcasts to raise awareness of their daughter's disappearance eventually the cesses would be forced to sue the
Orlando Police Department before we get too far along Captain I want to make sure that we do
our due diligence here we have to give credit for much of the information the good information anyway way in this case
this is due to some of the sources we have already mentioned but a big garage cheers has to go out to the podcast
unconcluded so to Sean and Scott over at unconcluded cheers mates we have relied
heavily on the unconcluded podcast and the help find Jennifer kessie Facebook page which discusses the case and
maintains a database of timelines and facts of course we recommend both by late afternoon on the day that
Jennifer was discovered to be missing the Cassies had already printed off hundreds of Flyers with Jennifer's
picture and a photo of her car and the license plate number they rob Lauren and 12 of Jen's sorority sisters stood on
street corners near her condo and handed out these flyers to rush hour drivers they also posted Flyers all over the
area including at her condo complex the cesses of course had called the Orlando Police and they met with detectives Gau
and right at the condo that evening along with Rob Travis and Logan I do want to point out here though that
detective Wright was almost immediately replaced by detective brownie So for anybody looking into this case just be
aware of that Drew and Joyce were not really impressed by the detective Ives and with this meeting although they took
the report the missing person's report and said they would look into the case Drew and Joyce said that the Orlando
Police Department's opinion was that Jennifer simply took off after a fight with her boyfriend and eventually she
would turn up yeah that's what we're told almost every time right Captain yeah it's a bunch of lazy people so of
course the Cassies flan out refused to believe this they were incense at the implications there was no way that
Jennifer had left she loved her life Drew and Joyce vowed to find their daughter no matter what it took but
there was very little to go on the Orlando Police Department issued a be on the lookout for Jennifer and her vehicle
this went out around 900 p.m. that evening the Orlando Police spent 13 years investigating Jennifer's case
and Captain you are more than well aware of this because of your work on the Tyler Davis case but I found this to be
just an interesting little stat over 3,000 missing persons reports are filed annually in Orange County
Florida during that time the detectives initially assigned to the case retired a
year into the investigation and new detectives came and took over the in investigation they too left and new ones
were assigned this is a 13-year old investigation I'm Not faulting Orlando Police Department for assigning new
detectives we when we have people retire that's what has to happen it's a 13e investigation right you can't force them
to stay on the force so a lot of work was done mhm I was just going to say there's a episode that disappeared it's
called Girl Interrupted it aired in 20 16 um and they had some detectives I I don't know which detectives they were
right but they had some detectives on that show talking about the case again they they make the claim hey well we
know that she got an argument with the boyfriend so maybe she just took off very unimpressed with these detectives
the thing here is too with the switching of detectives so the new detectives are only left with
what the old ones provide them with right and and there was a lot of work done in this case and the files number
tens of thousands of pages one thing that was obvious to be a problem and extremely unfortunate was
that the original detectives were old school they didn't use computers they didn't really even take any notes so
when they were retiring and moving on put out the pasture uh and the new detectives come in they're left with
with almost nothing and I think that they were that the original detectives were forced or at least asked and did so
like write down everything you can remember about the case before you you're you're done and you're out of
here right that's awesome right right that basically says yeah we know your daughter went missing but we don't give
a [ __ ] I'll tell you what man I cannot tell you I don't watch the show anymore
but remember the like the first 48 and and then there's I think there's another show that's the 72 hours whatever anyway
I'm talking about these these cases where you you can watch a unit homicide detective robbery detective whomever and
they're interviewing people and there I cannot tell you how many times that I've
seen what I call like old school detective work work in a case and I love it like that's one of my favorite
things these are guys and and and women that are interviewing people and taking down notes they're writing things down
even [ __ ] that doesn't seem important at the time they write it down and multiple
times there's something that happens a week later or some vehicle is spotted elsewhere a week later and they can flip
back through their notes and go oh yeah I remember I thought I remembered something like that I wrote down a blue
Lincoln was spotted here and then all of a sudden now they've got the Le that they needed so I get that not everybody
was raised around computers and to use them this in computer school I don't understand the fact that they it's been
reported that these guys didn't even take notes that seems to me to be the most basic and simplistic portion of
detective work and and recording your work along the way yeah you wonder if that's [ __ ] or if they took some
notes and and the apartment can't find them I mean you start by the obvious we have this girl that went missing let's
try to figure out did she stay there that night roughly what time do we think this happened is there any eyewitness
that saw her car there at night start there now we go to the boyfriend now we go to the ex-boyfriend now we go to
anybody else that maybe she had any romantic ties to now let's go to the family and and at the same time then you
go to Every staff member and that condo complex and then you go to the different
staff members of the construction but that lies a big problem when you don't have a list of those
workers uh now you have any of those workers plus any of their immediate contacts that possibly
worked with them at some point so now the pool is becoming so big to try to investigate well and anyone that's
experienced of these renovation large scale Renovations or construction projects on on housing sites and
residential areas and even in commercial areas MH understands that it's not as easy as just going to one big company
and going give me a list of all the workers that are working on this property it doesn't work that way
because there's multiple multiple companies some of them big some of them small some of them one man own owner
operated operations property so right because difficult right cuz they could hire one contractor that is only there
to do tile one contractor that's only there to do drywall the problem is is when you're able to contact that
contractor and they're not going to give you the proper names of the people that
work for them because they're undocumented that becomes an issue that becomes a safety issue for others and
and that's where yeah maybe I cannot be so impressed with these detectives from this TV series or maybe not impressed
with some of the rumors that I heard but the stacks you know but the cards are stacked up against these detectives
anyways especially the newer ones because they're left with very little information from the original detective
detectives so for whatever reason or however you want to slice it much about the early months of this
investigation is lost or unknown there is virtually nothing in the case File from the first 16 months of the
investigation we do know that the falling was done or was not done by the Orlando Police Department Jennifer's
condo was never processed the handrails on the two sets of stairs leading from Jennifer's floor the second floor to
street level were not dusted for Prince Jennifer's credit cards were checked their was no activity after the
Abduction the Orlando Police Department has never commented on her bank records or phone
records the Orlando PD checked closed circuit TV and traffic cameras near all relevant locations Jen's condo did not
have surveillance cameras at that time the Orlando Police Department checked pawn shops in the area they also took
Jennifer's laptop into EV evidence the police visited Jennifer's workplace about a week after she went missing and
did some cursy interviews with her colleagues and took her work computer into evidence as well the Orlando Police
ordered a ping study to try to see where Jennifer's cell phone was on January 23rd and 24th the discussion of the
pings and Jennifer's phone is probably one of the most debated and confusing pieces about Jennifer's case Drew kessie
addressed the pings in the in an episode on unconcluded and in one entry in the guest book on the Family's website as
well and we will revisit this issue further a little later for now remember the kessis said that Jennifer had
terrible cell service in her condo in addition they have said that one of the cell towers near the Mosaic at Millennia
was damaged or down at the time implying that Jen's phone had to Ping off a further away Tower when the Orlando
Police Department looked at 11 pings related to Jennifer's phone according to Drew and Joyce the police believed that
Jennifer was out and about late on the night of Monday the 23rd moving away from her condo after after her 9:57 p.m.
conversation with Rob further they believed that she had gone to a shady area of town it's not known where this
was the cesses absolutely denied that there was any way Jennifer would go out that late on a work night after getting
up at 5:00 a.m. that day and they said once she was in for the night and in her sweats and glasses she would never have
redressed and gone back out the Orlando Police Department detectives said to the
Cassies quote you don't know your daughter as well as you think you do one more thing that the Orlando Police
Department seems to have told the cesses was that both Jennifer's phone and Travis's phone were powered off at some
point that night around 10:40 p.m. but the Cassies knew that Jennifer used her phone as an alarm clock and didn't turn
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Brief Summary

Jennifer Kessie vanished in 2006, leaving behind a perplexing mystery that continues to baffle investigators and her family.

Key points

The Mysterious Disappearance of Jennifer Kessie. A perplexing case that has captivated thousands due to its unpredictability.
Jennifer's Responsible Nature. Jennifer was known for her responsible and cautious lifestyle, always prepared for the unexpected.
Concerns About Condo Security. The lack of security at Jennifer's condo complex raises questions about her disappearance.
The Last Phone Call. Rob was the last person to speak with Jennifer before her disappearance.
A Disturbing Absence. Jennifer's boss noticed her absence when she failed to show up for work.
The Parents' Panic. Jennifer's parents were notified of her absence, leading to immediate concern.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

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Clarifying the circumstances surrounding Jennifer's disappearance.

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