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the Charli project.org Bryce David laspisa was last seen in Casta California on August 30th
2013 he was attending Sierra College in Northern California and was driving home
to visit his family in Laguna nil California at the time of his disappearance he called his mother at 2
a.m. saying he was too tired to drive [Music] was going to stop his car and sleep he said he'd call her when he woke
up Priceless Pie's beige 2003 Toyota Highlander was found abandoned in a ravine off of Lake Hughes Road near
Castaic Lake a few hours later lying on its side the rear window smashed his cellular phone wallet laptop
top computer and other belongings were still inside the vehicle but there was no sign of
him an extensive search of the area turned up no clues Bress Pisa is a Caucasian male
with red hair and green eyes he has a tattoo of a Taurus Bullhead and his birthday in Roman
numerals on his upper left arm his ears are pierced Bryce is 5' 11 in tall and was
approximately 170 lb he was last seen wearing a blue and white checkered shirt white cargo
shorts and size 12 red and white Nike tennis shoes Bryce's loved ones stated he was
unfamiliar with the area he disappeared from they also say Bryce didn't hitchhike and did not enjoy Outdoor
Pursuits he was 19 years of age at the time of his disappearance he has never been heard
from since today Bryce would be 28 years old he's considered to be missing and endangered his case remains
unsolved this is true crime garage [Music] Bryce David L Pisa was born April 30th
1994 in Springfield Illinois his parents are Michael and Karen L Pisa Bryce is described as bright easygoing and
extremely charismatic when he was little he went to Kingsley Elementary and then on to Lincoln Junior High then
in high school Bryce was a good student getting good grades was not difficult for him he was quite The Talented Artist
as well this was well known he was into and was very talented at painting and had an eye for photography high school
friends describe Bryce as happy and a funny guy who would light up a room when he walked in his talents were not
limited to the art World in high school Bryce was an athlete as well playing baseball and football for the
Napierville Central High Red Hawks he graduated from naville Central High in 2012 soon after Bryce graduated from
high school his parents retired from their jobs and they moved they moved from Illinois down to lagona agill which
is in Orange County California so Bryce and his parents Michael and Karen laspisa they make this big move right
this is not just moving far away after high school after retiring this is moving 2,000 miles away take me down to
the paradise city after the move to another state Bryce figures out his plans for college he went off to Sierra
College in Rockland California now this is another long-distance move for Bryce for the school year this is a lot of
things happening very quickly right he graduates high school then he moves to another state to California and then
once he's in California California one of the biggest states in our greatest of Nations he moves a considerable distance
away from his parents to go to school so this is another longdistance move for Bryce so he can attend school Sierra
College is about a 7-hour drive away from his parents place Laguna Nyle is in Southern California south of La then 465
miles way up North Sierra College is north of Sacramento so you can kind of picture where everything is there at
Sierra College Bryce was majoring in graphic and Industrial design with his gift as an artist he had already had an
impressive portfolio at this young age now this week's case as you heard in the trailer is a missing person's case Bryce
Pisa goes missing on August 30th 2013 last week made it 9 years since his incredibly mysterious disappearance and
for those of you that have not heard about this case I think you will agree with us that events leading up to his
disappearance are just that incredibly mysterious and I'm not trying to be funny about this but I I
think everybody that goes missing or somebody that's murdered they all light up the room I've never met somebody that
I actually thought lit up the room and to get a better picture of these individuals it'd be nice if if it was
like mandatory well give us three negative things about this individual so when I go missing or I get murdered I
want you to cover the case and then I want you to team up with the ladies from morbid and cover it again
and and I'll give you a list of three negative things I'm sure you can come up with them on your own but uh I'll I'll
put some three negative things so we get a better picture of who these individuals actually were or squash all
inspiration to actually find the individual so after he completes high school he's going to go off to college
right normal stuff here so far except for to me I think the the long distance moving two times in a row a little
abnormal yeah but when you're 18 you think you're an an adult and now when you look back on it it's like man I was
so young at 18 so Bryco is missing in the second half of 2013 he's done with high school in
2012 so he gets in a full year at College completing his freshman year before his
disappearance now during that freshman year Bryce regardless of not being from the area really managed to fit in almost
immediately and he made plenty of new friends and adjusted to California with no problems by all
reports at school he was very much the typical teenager he was eager to learn freshman year he had average grades and
as many do he dabbled with a little marijuana and alcohol per his friends the first year in college went real easy
for him according to his parents now as it is with most missing persons cases and so it is true with Bryce's case as
well the timeline is so very important to these cases so we will spend the majority of the time dissecting that
timeline and the known events of that timeline before we dive into that timeline there's a couple things that we
probably should go over first yes before we get into the timeline I think we need
to cover a couple of things and introduce some of the important people that we will find in our
timeline first we have Shawn Dixon Shawn is Bryce's best friend and roommate at the time of his disappearance also
during Bryce's freshman year he started dating another student her name is Kim Sly now Kim Sly is actually a student at
another College because Kim lives about 90 Mi North from Bryce's apartment so let's hone in on
the distance between these things here real quick right right if we go to the southern the very southern part of the
state of California that's where we're going to find Bryce's parents that's where they lived that's where they moved
to with Bryce after retirement after Bryce finished high school Bryce decides to go to Community College Sierra
College which is roughly a seven to eight hour drive north of his parents place still in the great state of
California yeah it's a community college but it's just not in his community that's right he's starting his own
community and then north of him 90 miles north of him is where his girlfriend Kim
Sly lives and I'm just guessing that they met through the internet or something and that's why we see a lot
more long-term distant relationships probably that book with all the faces on it mhm
Bryce vehicle at the time of his disappearance was a 2003 beige Toyota Highlander which is an SUV type vehicle
this was given to him from his parents for him to use I I don't know if it was officially signed over to him it doesn't
sound like it was it sounds like it was still in his parents' name yeah so I don't know if it was technically his or
if he was allowed to use it for his time in college now Bryce goes missing rather
quickly into the start of what was to be his sophomore year at College Bryce came home for the summer
break leading up to that point he was staying at his parents house for the summer break now it's reported that he
was very close to his parents especially his mother and all reports state that Bryce seemed happy to be spending the
summer with them well it seemed like they were helping them out with college but also what great parents to go hey
we're going to help you have a vehicle as well he spent part of that summer break taking an English class at a local
college so local to where his parents were living right to get a jump start on his credits needed for his degree do you
know if he had a summertime job that's interesting I do not know if he had a summertime job it seems like he spent
that summer not just living with his parents but attending this English class that was local and hanging out with a
lot of his local friends as one would do when you come home and you hope that the
others come home for the summer break as well well it seemed like half my college
friends would have maybe just summertime jobs no jobs during the school year so they could save up a bunch of money to
have some run money during the school year and some of my friends were really lucky because their parents were like
look your job is school so if Bryce came home and he was going to spend the summer with with his parents maybe they
said to him hey as long as you're taking one class then that's still your job and
you don't need to get a job well and not that this will answer your question at all Captain but it does fill in some of
the blanks so as far as Bryce goes the vehicle he's driving provided by his parents his car insurance for that
vehicle provided by Mom and Dad his cell phone provided by Mom and Dad right so these things are things that we know I
didn't find any mention of a summertime job or even a job that he had worked his
freshman year seems like I'm leaning towards the idea that they're they're the type of parents that are saying
college is your job come back for the summer I mean that's look that's still a very productive student I'm going to
come home for the summer I'm not going to take a break a complete break I'm going to sign up for another class well
and the here we start to see the interesting parts and pieces to the story by all accounts he's a great student
getting good grades no problem freshman year pretty easy he's fitting in he's making friends getting decent grades the
friends of course say hey he's partying a little bit smoking a little weed drinking a little bit typical College
Behavior yeah that's not abnormal at all right exctly it's probably more abnormal
not to be doing those things it's when school starts up again that we're going to
see the these stories and the conflicting opinions of Bryce and what he was up to and his behaviors changed
drastically mhm so the fall semester for that year for 2013 started on August 27th
2013 but by this point Bryce has actually been on campus for a period of time reports generally say that Bryce
was back at school approximately two weeks before classes started which makes a lot of sense when we start to get into
some of these other items and what I mean by other items is it's reports from his friends of of Bryce's behaviors and
actions leading up to his disappearance right so the classes began at Sierra College on Tuesday August 27th
2013 on that day Bryce attended his classes as scheduled Bryce takes a speech class and a web design class that
day now he calls his mother Karen that evening and tells her how much he enjoyed the two classes his mom said
that he was pretty upbeat on the phone and he seemed excited about the new school year he seemed excited about his
classes and the new semester and he's only taken those classes or it's just those are just the classes that were on
that day that's the classes he took on that Tuesday and he's reporting back to Mom hey school started I'm kind of
digging these new classes one both those classes are actually somewhat fun classes unless you really hate speaking
and public then speech class 101 is not for you sign me up for the bowling class bowling in beer Bryce's mother
would later say that on the phone with her son that evening Bryce sounded completely normal and he did not say or
sound like there was anything for a mother to be concerned about yeah of course she's not thinking these things
at the time these are questions she's going to be asked later and in fact unfortunately she's going to be asked
these questions just days later this however was not the opinion shared by Bryce's friends that are hanging out
with him at school his friends that see him daily remember he's been there for a
period of time before these classes started they all say that he had not been acting like himself since he got
back two weeks ago they say as soon as he got back they noticed some kind of change in Bryce he wasn't the Bryce from
last year they say he started drinking a lot now Bryce as we already mentioned was a social Drinker his freshman year
drinking occasionally with friends or at parties in the past but the friends say
that they noticed a significant increase in the amount of hard liquor consumption
on Bryce's part so not not beer right they specifically say he was drinking hard liquor and drinking a lot of hard
liquor now we should hone in on that just for a second here before we move off of it cuz we got a lot of stuff to
get to but we need to keep in mind Bryce is 19 at this point in our timeline and I don't know about the rest
of the world I can only speak to my own personal experiences I like to drink when I was
18 19 I think a lot of teenagers do that's when they kind of start drinking but and some would say that you like
drinking more than most my tolerance level was was not very high hard liquor was was a tough thing for the colonel at
1819 right and I'm only pointing that out because some people that don't drink don't understand the significant
difference between liquor and beer and when and how it can affect people well I I have a lot of friends that can't drink
liquor because they they get angry or they become like violent or they have had violent episodes or
they get so depressed afterwards because it just hits you in in such a different
way but let's I want to be clear this behavior is just when he gets back from school his parents and his
friends don't say anything about this behavior when he was back living with his parents there's no mention of that
when he's living with his parents that summer break now again we don't know because you kind of pointed out we get
this very Ros picture of Bryce and some of that's coming from his parents and that could be 100%
true or if he is doing these things maybe it goes unnoticed when he's staying with his parents that summer
break well yeah and that to be fair to them there was a ton of stuff that I was doing that my parents weren't aware of
well and what's interesting here though to me is that the friends the people that know him at the Sierra College
campus area they are saying they notice this wasn't normal this wasn't the Bryce
from last year right he wasn't consuming alcohol like this and again I don't think that I can stress it enough that I
think there's a significant difference between beer and liquor here especially at this age of 19 well and I completely
agree with you and and this might be a dumb question but his relationship's fine when he gets back to school right
yep there's not a reason that he's going to be be drinking heavily and and and drinking liquor instead of
beer and this doesn't seem to be and I know we're kind of sticking on this point for maybe a little longer than
people would like well it's our show and we'll do what we want but to me this is
like the the kickoff point of where everything starts to go off the rails right this is the investigation right
here the timeline investigation and it looks to me he gets back to school for 2 weeks leading up to
school we're not this is not described as like oh the whole campus was just party crazy we were partying every night
everybody was happy to be back we're all a year older that's not the story that we're
getting the story is that it's kind of a oneman party he's partying by himself yeah at times he's hanging out with a
lot of friends yes but he's also doing a lot of this consumption on a very small
level not a party level more of a a by himself or were one-on-one with another friend he was lighting up the room by
himself his friends say that they were both confused and concerned about the change in Bryce's Behavior but when
checking on their friend asking him how he is Bryce simply tells them that he is
fine and that there is nothing going on with him everything is [Music] normal [Music]
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most of us but pay close attention to this timeline because the events leading up to Bryce's disappearance I think are
V I think are rather strange and we can see that to be true with those statements we just went through on one
hand we have mom who has a close relationship with with her son who says everything was fine and normal and then
his friend say the exact opposite that Bryce's Behavior gave them great concern and his alcohol consumption was
concerning to them as well Bryce's behaviors and actions to me Captain seem erratic
already I just said Peaks and valleys I couldn't help but notice how quickly we go
from high points and everything is going great to incredibly low and pay attention to this timeline so on day two
at Sierra College this is now Wednesday August 28th 2013 Bryce's friends say that they
continue to notice that Bryce is not quite himself and he according to those at school who know him best Bryce is
acting strange and almost totally out of character by this point in the timeline
things are already ramping up toward Defcon one most severe level of high alert or as we say in the garage Captain
Threat Level Midnight this is because this is roughly when it becomes known that Bryce has apparently been up for
approximately two to three days straight at this point nobody could narrow that down any better than two to three days
but what we can gain from that and gather from that is that he's been up for a significant period of time by this
Wednesday it's also revealed at this point and some of these friends know this because I think they are doing some
of these activities with Bryce but Bryce was using viance which is a drug it's a
prescription drug but he's using it recreationally the thought is that he's using it to try to stay awake and on top
of ingesting this viance he's also consuming large quantities of hard liquor this is when Bryce's roommate
Shawn calls Bryce's mother Karen he's so concerned about his friend and his roommate that he calls Bryce's mother
who is 7 hours away well and that's a big deal cuz if you're going to call it's one thing to tell your buddies
hey Bryce is acting a little strange it's another thing to go I got to get his mother's number or his father's
number and say hey there's something wrong with Bryce but then on the other side of things the mom's going what the
hell I just talked to him yesterday and he seemed to be all excited about school
yeah this is again where the two paths start to go very different directions in my opinion and you just hit the nail on
the head there my friend can you imagine the level of concern leading up to this
before calling his mother like there's discussions between friendto friend discussions already like right this
dude's acting weird he hasn't slept in days he's drunk all the time he's look did you see what he's drinking these
pills he's taking but again the the liquor to me yeah it's strange but people do it and people dab and maybe
he's like hey this year I'm going to be a liquor guy I'm not going to be the beer guy maybe he doesn't like
beer but now you're mixing the hard liquor with prescription medication and some of these pills that
they have designed to keep you up and and have you focus and you know like ader all and all that
stuff you might as well be snorting cocaine and drinking hard liquor cuz that's the effect it has on your body
well and I think that we should point out too look I have very I don't know anything about viance other than what I
found on the internet and but to me that shows me the strength of this type of drug when we talk about somebody who's
been up for days and consuming large quantities of alcohol those two things should make you drowsy separately but
together should make you incredibly drowsy should make you fall asleep but he's not falling asleep probably because
of this viance well I can say from personal experience I've been on prescription medication before that once
I had a drink and not not so much beer but once I had like a shot of something and I've never done crack I've
never done heroin when I've never all I could explain to people is once I had that one
shot all I could think about was having that next shot and that made no sense to me but I
was also on pres you know on this prescription pill and it was almost like they were feeding each other like the
prescription pill once I took that drink made me want to just keep drinking just
keep going so Bryce's roommate Shawn calls his mother Bryce's mother Karen because he's concerned about Bryce Sean
calls his mom Karen he's telling her of all the troubling changes in Behavior with her son tells her that Bryce has
been up for two to three days that he's drinking and I'm a little I question this in in our timeline a little bit
because it's reported in some Outlets that that Karen was made aware of the viance drug at this time but then
there's other reports that say that she was not aware of viance and not made aware by his friends I I don't know
which which side of the fence to fall on here captain in the grand scheme of things it's not it may not be I don't
think it's that big of a deal because also at that time period maybe his friends didn't know exactly what he was
taking and because there's not a doctor well a medical doctor anyway here in the
garage a quick internet search tells us that viance is a amphetamine based Narco
IC very potent stimulant that the effect is similar to methamphetamine popular it's a popular
recreational drug for college students it provides an energy boost that allows the user to stay up for hours without
sleep this is normally used to treat ADHD which Bryce did not have or was not diagnosed
with also known also the known side effects of Vian include depression and Mania okay so now at this point mom's
been made aware from Shawn roommate that something's going on with her son and she's on the phone with Bryce at
this point Bryce tells his mother that he is going to break up with his girlfriend Kim well this is very
surprising to mom because she thought I imagine based off of what she's witnessed and what Bryce has told her
that he seemed to be very much in love with his girlfriend count but you know he went back to school he had two weeks
to think about things get his life in order before he starts sophomore year and then maybe he decided hey this year
I want to focus on school and I don't want a you know I care about her but that but maybe she's a distraction as
far as his education is concerned 90 m away is difficult too especially at that age I would guess yeah and I and I've
had moments and I think we've all have had moments in time especially the situation he's in cuz they're not
playing boyfriend and girlfriend every day because she lives so far away so maybe his thought is like hey instead of
this being something that preoccupies my time because this this drug that he's taking to me is not a drug that he's
just taking to um just have a good time it seems almost like when when some of these students
take Aderall and and and drugs like that prescription medicine like that they're
they're almost doing it for a purpose well I think he was doing he may have been doing it for a good time it's a
little difficult to to figure out first off he's not very long into the school year so I don't he doesn't seem to be
cramming for anything leading into day two of of classes starting that fall semester but there are reports and I
don't know what friend this was or which friends these were but there are reports
that he was taking this viance with other individuals who were staying up all night drinking and playing video
games and hanging out well and like you said this drug has two side effects well
it has multiple side effects but you're either going to go the depression route or you're going to go the manic route to
me it seems like it's the manic route well and all these things can this this is a thing that scares me about pills
and about hard drugs or anything like that whether you're getting them prescribed to you or off of the streets
they all affect everybody differently and can affect everybody differently and some people quite
differently now let's consider he's consuming large amounts of alcohol not sleeping as well that's a recipe for a
disaster I think for possibly anybody out there this is very weird to me here Captain because we're going to have
Karen Bryce's mother who later will say yes I was concerned when Shawn called me
and said that my son is behaving weird that he's drinking a lot but when I spoke to him on the phone even though he
tells me he's breaking up with his girlfriend which was a surprise to me at the time he sounded very normal he
sounded completely normal on the phone that's her words so maybe Bryce is able to fake it long enough to convince mom
that he's okay or maybe she just wasn't picking up what was actually going on or
maybe he's calling her at a time where he's just not drunk during that time period right he's on the phone with her
because Shan called Karen at this point so I yeah I don't we don't know exactly what's going on she says he sounds
normal before they get off the phone now we are still on August 28th 2013 we do have a time frame for this
next event this takes place between 1: and 2: p.m. this is when Bryce so now he's he's not around Shawn who had
already called his mother Bryce text his best friend roommate Shawn and the text
says something to this effect because I've seen several different versions of this but the most consistent version is
as follows Bryce Town says I love you bro seriously you are the best person I've
ever met you saved my soul Sean texts back a few minutes later saying I love you too man you have an amazing life
full of love and blessings don't waste that yeah it's almost like you're texting your best friend to say hey
thank you for calling my mom you know thanks for stepping in thanks for doing the right thing thanks for being my
friend like a true friend because you know somebody that's just your casual friend is not going to take the time to
call your mother because that that could sever a relationship you're you're exactly right and I was when I first
read that text I thought is is this like you know because there's a lot of there
can be precursors to somebody doing something drastic in their life there could be things that that are are signs
and hints along the way that maybe something's not right with somebody and one of those signs is is saying goodbye
whether they're doing it consciously or subconsciously saying goodbye to people thatan to them
and when I first read this text that's where my mind went like he's saying goodbye to his buddy but you're
absolutely right Captain given the timeline that's why the timeline's so important given the timeline this takes
place shortly after the call where Bryce is forced to talk to his mother she's made aware that things are weird with
Bryce this is just a good friend reaching out to a good friend saying where okay you didn't piss me off by
calling my mom you helped me out you're looking you're looking out for me we're good
friends this so typical of Captain I'm going to agree with myself and disagree because I also feel like your G feeling
shouldn't go it's not you know not valid like that should be in the in your back
pocket so rarely I agree with you that when I do you immediately change your opinion something must but but you're
right though too on both levels because of the response right that Shawn gives back to Bryce I love you too man you
have an amazing life full of full of love and blessings don't waste that yeah but to me that's somebody that is
concerned yes about suicide or concerned about somebody he's probably meaning don't waste it because you're drinking
and taking these prescription pills but you know but it also kind of sounds like somebody that's like don't don't do
something stupid don't do something dumb and or don't continue this recklessness
that you've been carrying on with the past few days right of course after the fact a lot of people are going to say
that Bryce is exhibiting signs of Suicidal Tendencies and they're basing this off of what is actual fact here
later we learn that on the same day Bryce gives away some his more expensive personal belongings he gives them to his
best friend and roommate Shawn he gives away his Xbox and diamond earrings remember we said in the trailer that
Bryce had pierced ears so he's giving away two very expensive items and also with the Xbox it's been reported that he
was an avid player he was he he actively played video games a lot of the time well there's an addiction there as well
I mean the dopamine that you get from playing video games but this doesn't have to be a suicidal thing here I know
that it's reported this way it is common for individuals to give things away leading up to doing something like that
if they're aware that they're going to do it but it also could it it also could mean something else like I look at this
situation I think Bryce is getting ready to get out of Dodge that he's that he's
getting ready to go maybe maybe maybe I don't want to be on campus anymore maybe
I maybe I need to get out of this place and go back home to Mom and Dad okay see
I took this in a whole different way because like you said it wasn't like he's just sitting around getting drunk
off liquor and staring at the walls and taking these prescription pills this is all coinciding with staying up and
playing video games I almost feel like this was like a peace offering to his roommate to say hey here's my Xbox box
like not like I'm giving it to you forever but like here's my Xbox you're going to control this thing so it
doesn't control my life and I'm going to get my I'm going to get my ACT back together that's the way I took it it you
know kind of weird that he gives him but the earrings the earrings but again at this he's been up for a few days he's
probably been a little manic so at that point you're just like whatever man yeah
I'll take these again you're it's like giving something to your brother it stays in your house you
didn't really lose the item right you know I mean it's not like he went and and sold these items well and he gave it
to Shawn and we know Shawn called his mother Karen earlier and I don't know if he gave
these items to Shawn before the call or after the call there's no timing on this
had he given them to somebody else or had we not known this fact that Shawn was so concerned about his buddy that he
called Bryce's mom my thought would go to oh he's he's taking pills he's drinking a lot he gave
away the earrings in the Xbox and trade for more pills than alcohol or some type
of drug but sea who's who's obviously concerned about his friend receives these things I get it with the Xbox get
me off of this thing I need to focus on school or I need to focus on this that or the other thing the
earrings I don't know that that's taking away anything from his Focus there to me
looking back at it now 9 years later it looks to me like this is some kind of like you said either peace offering or
it is a sign that he is going to be doing something now what that something is you could speculate five or six
different things here but what we do know is that at some point later that day Bryce decides to go to his
girlfriend's house where he gave her a Xbox and a set of earrings as well right he's just giving everything away he's
like opro well in fact that's not what happens it's a it's a different type of trip now keep in mind he's driving 90
minutes north 90 miles approximately north of where he is so even further away from Mom and Dad's house at this
point and while he's there this is at his girlfriend Kim's apartment he says that he's breaking up
with her now a lot of the reports state that he had text her earlier that day that there was a text exchange where he
had already broke up with her and she too said the same thing that Bryce's mom would later say that she was completely
surprised she she had no clue what what or why he would break up with her in fact in the text exchange he says
something like well you you would be better off without me which would indicate that yes we are breaking up so
she's so surprised that she has to text him back and say say what does this mean
are you breaking up with me right so this text exchange happens at some point this day and then later he is at her
apartment and while he's there at the apartment he tells Kim look we're still breaking up and he's not giving any real
reasons why he wants to break up or why it's so sudden everything was again normal as far as Kim was concerned
leading up to this day I I have a lot of issues with this okay for one no kid that lights up the room breaks up with
his girlfriend through text message that's not the way you do it that's not the proper way you do it especially
you've been in a relationship for such a long time okay so you started that conversation you broke up on on text and
so you go visit her well now he's doing the right thing but I don't think it's so strange that he's going that he's not
giving any explanation because I've actually heard some good advice from from therapists and from mentors and
other people that say when you're ending a relationship you don't need to give them reasons
why because people will sit there and argue those reasons and be and then you see what I'm
saying it's like well because we don't see each other enough okay now we're now we're arguing this reason but this this
kid has already come to this conclusion that it's time for him to move on I just
think at this point point I see a pattern here of decision making that does not seem to be well thought out
well planned not mapped out at all I feel like that's why I said his his behaviors to me and his actions to me
seem very erratic very impulsive this appears to me to be a dude that thinks he needs to make some
kind of change but does not understand what that change needs to be well again this is back to the prescription pills
you're either going to be depressed or you're going to have some manic stage and it seems like he's in some kind of
manic stage Kim would later say that Bryce got obviously frustrated with her for questioning him and why that he
would be breaking up with her she tells him look she's confused it she doesn't know why he would be breaking up with
her he's not giving her any any reasons Kim's words were that Bryce was acting erratic and and then at some point says
to her that he wants to leave her apartment Kim takes Bryce's car keys away and begs him to get some sleep
before he leaves so when this is all going down Bryce then calls his mother and tells her about the situation that's
going on on the phone with Bryce Karen his mother offers to fly in the next morning to see
Bryce he tells her not to go to the trouble he wants to collect his thoughts he says and he says that he has a lot to
talk to his mother about she wants to fly in the next day because this is the second person to have concerns about
Bryce she's now been made aware about these concerns from his roommate Shawn and his girlfriend or
ex-girlfriend however you want to look at it Kim so now she's concerned now at some point on this conversation this
phone conversation Karen Bryce's mother asked to speak with Kim and she tells her go ahead and give Bryce his keys
back which Kim does Karen said that Bryce sounded fine to drive and that's why she told Kim to give the keys back
at 11:30 p.m. that night Bryce left Kim's apartment well here's the difficult thing here is he can go back
to his dorm which is about 90 miles away or he could try to Trek home which is at
this point eight and a half nine hours away roughly I mean that is that is a tough Drive he's and it's been reported
that he's not slept in days or even if it's just slept minimal it's it's a rough drive so if all of these times are
correct he leaves Kim's apartment around 11:30 p.m. that night and then now we are into the wee hours of August 29th
where at approximately 1:00 a.m. Bryce calls his mother again and she assumed that he would be
calling from his apartment which makes complete sense because that would be about the time it would take for him to
get back to his apartment his campus apartment phone records later showed that he called from a location that was
about an hour's Drive south of Rockland so he was not calling from his apartment whatever they discussed on the
phone did not include her knowing his location at the time of the call right because she makes the assumption that
he's calling from his apartment well to be clear about this this puts him about hundred or so
miles away from his girlfriend's apartment yeah and the troubling thing here is they get off the phone and from
my understanding Captain she Karen his mother still believes that Bryce is at his apartment when that phone call takes
place but the troubling thing here is the next morning between 9:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.
Karen his mother finds out that the Toyota Highlander that Bryce was driving needed roadside
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Bryce David Laspisa was last seen in Castaic, California on August 30th, 2013. Bryce just started his sophomore year at Sierra College in Northern California. After what can only be described as questionable actions and behavior Bryce decided to head home to his parent’s house. This is a drive that would require him to travel more than four hundred miles. On this trip Bryce ran out of gas, crashed his vehicle and then disappeared. Join us in the Garage as we try to sort through the mess that is the timeline of events leading up to this very strange disappearance.

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Brief Summary

Bryce Laspisa's disappearance in 2013 raises questions about his mental state and relationships before he vanished.

Key points

The Mysterious Disappearance of Bryce Laspisa. Bryce Laspisa vanished on August 30, 2013, under mysterious circumstances. His case remains unsolved.
A Talented Young Man. Bryce was a gifted artist and athlete, known for his charisma and talent.
A Change in Behavior. Friends noticed a significant change in Bryce's behavior leading up to his disappearance.
The Struggles of the Holidays. It's common to feel sadness or anxiety during the holiday season. Therapy can help.
Bryce's Erratic Behavior. Friends notice Bryce is acting strangely, raising concerns about his well-being.
A Disturbing Goodbye. Bryce texts his friend expressing love, raising alarms about his mental state.

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Episode quotes

He was bright, easygoing, and extremely charismatic.

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