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[Music] thank you [Music] a beautiful and beloved young woman is brutally murdered just yards from her
own home her battered body left behind a building like discarded rubbish surely only a sadistic experienced
killer could assault and strangle this bubbly popular teen in the middle of a dense City and Retreat undetected Into
the Night or could the killer be someone closer to her someone whom the young victim loved
entrusted the following is a blog post from Catherine kremen I vividly recall this day years ago when I was taking the
train home from work not knowing what to expect when I got there but scared out of my wits
somehow a nun was beside me on the train and reached out to me and helped me to pray
I don't know what I was praying for I just know she may have saved me from losing my mind
I recall every second of that day my Christine also saved me from losing my mind
she was my strength when I walked through the door to my home and her aunt told me Deanna was dead
I did not know what to do I did not know anything I felt like I was not even present
losing my daughter and learning how she was murdered was too difficult to believe or understand
I could not process it at the time as the day went on Deanna's Aunt Kathleen came over and I knew she could
identify with me I found strength from her thank you Kathy in case you never knew
it that is true it was when my brother came that I knew I was horrified he's a Vietnam veteran and I will never forget
talking with him and feeling literally like the floor under my feet was falling and I was falling with it
his presence also helped to save me from losing my mind I am so thankful to all the people who
came to my house to be there for me and for my family now here it is all of these years later
you know how I feel I'm going to solve this murder I'm going to do it soon the person who murdered my daughter
Deanna also severely damaged my family and ways that I cannot explain he did not destroy me
but he came close today I am a force to be reckoned with I believe I can get him and get him
without violence if he is lucky enough for that not to happen I saved him once I won't do it again
I just felt I would share these thoughts today I hope that every member of this group knows how grateful I am for their
love and kindness and continuous Support over the years there are a few people who lack
compassion and have been unkind and bottom line undignified and disgusting but that is on them shame on
them I will end it like this I have my grief and my heartbreak tucked away in a safe
place in my heart I have more strength than you can imagine I am so thankful for
your kindness there will be Justice for Deanna crimin I promise this is true crime garage and this is
the case of Deanna crimin foreign [Music] [Music] was born on March 26 1978. in 1995 she lived in Somerville
Massachusetts with her mom Catherine her stepfather Michael and her brothers and
sister her biological father Albert Rogers lived in New Hampshire now the state border is not far from Somerville
Somerville is a Blue Collar city northwest of Boston with a population of about 81
000 people Deanna was born in the Somerville area but the family moved to California for a short period of time
returning when she was nine years old they moved into a house on Jacques Street in the winter Hill Neighborhood
which Catherine describes as lower middle class but I think that we should clarify something when we hear Catherine
say lower middle class it's my understanding captain that this is kind of of a High Cost of Living area there's
a lot of people so the houses are in high demand and a rather expensive area to live right some people may recall
long time listeners of this show are trail of Blood episodes this is episode number 416 of 417 that we did back in
August of 2020 with the guilty party being Edward O'Brien for the murder of Janet Downing today's case takes place
in the same area Somerville Massachusetts and the same year 1995. Deanna was close with her sister
Christine who was just 17 months older than her they shared a room and bickered over clothing
their younger brothers were Mark 11 years younger in Albert four years younger Deanna was a junior at
Somerville high school she was to a certain extent a normal teenager she hung out with her friends who recall her
laughing all the time she loved to dance and go to the local arcade she stole cigarettes and drank beer behind the
dumpster that's my favorite place to drink beer that's my kind of girl in one episode her friends recount with smiles
Deanna and her friend cut school one day and went to Dunkin Donuts Deanna's stepfather walks into the Dunkin Donuts
to discover her his stepdaughter cutting school and he collected her and drove her back to school after buying his
coffee Deanna was also training to be a cashier at the Star Market this is around the corner from her home where
she had been working for a couple of months she babysat on the side for extra money but she also gave back to the
community volunteering at the local cable channel Somerville cable access television and working with third
graders at a local school as part of the early childhood development program that
she was enrolled in at shs her plan was to go into teaching now unlike most teens her age Deanna valued her family
spending time with her disabled grandmother and goofing around with her siblings she loved cats Pizza the color
purple and she hated being short I have here that she was listed at five foot two inches tall or five foot two inches
short as Deanna may say on the day that she died Deanna wrote out a list of her life goals this is one of those weird
things that you come across in some of these cases these weird stories where on the same day that she was killed she's
writing a list of life goals this was part of a school assignment her goals as she listed that day were to graduate
high school find a job that she enjoyed have a dark green convertible Mustang have a family a happy family and live a
long and healthy life well you also wonder if she wanted to go into education if she was planning on going
to college on the afternoon of Wednesday August 29th 1995. this is just three days before
Deanna's 17th birthday she and her mom found themselves on the same public bus Dana was returning to her neighborhood
after shopping with friends after school and Catherine was coming home from her job in Boston
Deanna got off the bus and went to her boyfriend Tommy's house Deanna had been dating Tommy for about
two years in the years past the two would meet up to do their homework in the kitchens at
one of their homes as they lived not too far apart Deanna's Mother Catherine tells us that Tommy was always polite
and quiet when the teens were at her home but this school year Tommy had already graduated from Somerville high
school he's 19 years old in 1995. so he's older than Deanna now Deanna's curfew was 10 p.m on school nights on
this night she called home and said she would be late she was going to stay and watch some TV with her boyfriend right
Catherine said okay come home after this show's over that you're watching Catherine says that she fell asleep on
the couch around midnight when she woke up she discovered that Deanna was not home so she called the pager that she
had gotten for Deanna for her 17th birthday she had just gave her this pager a few
days earlier but Deanna did not return the page yeah every time I hear the the word pager
it's very nostalgic and a bit silly like when I it's one of those items that seemed very important in the mid 90s and
seemed very cool but it's like I've completely forgotten that they even existed until I till I read some of
these old stories well like you said it's so pointless it's so pointless that one day I got like I don't know five or
six pages in a row and all I could think was it's so nice that you're telling me
to call you but there's no way for me to call you this item is ridiculous and I rolled it rolled down my window and
threw the pager out the window yeah I had one and I think I paid for a full year's plan and used it for about 30 or
40 days and never use the thing again now Catherine says that when she woke up she tries to page her daughter Deanna
never returns the call she says that she just assumed that Deanna may have stayed over at Tommy's
house this is something that would not be the first time that she had stayed there
right so she was planning on you know giving Deanna the what for when she got home you know she didn't call and ask if
she could stay she just called and said she would be late well I'm like look we we know her mother fell asleep on the
couch it's possible sometimes teenagers are watching a movie and they end up falling asleep so on Thursday March 30th
this is when Catherine got up to get ready for her day she discovers that Deanna's not home and
she says that around 7 A.M she called over to Tommy's house and said to Tommy hey put Deanna on the phone Tommy says
she's not here she went home last night now Catherine had to leave to go to work
her husband Michael Deanna's stepfather called Somerville High School remember this was a school night to make sure
that Deanna was at school right assuming maybe she just went to school that morning well at this point you're not
getting any calls back from your pages you just talked to her boyfriend he said look she went home they're going there's
no sign that she ever came home so at this point you're not worried about scolding her or or grounding her you're
just you want to make sure she's okay so you're calling where she's supposed to be Somerville High School turns out
she's not at school either later that day okay Michael called Catherine at work and said you better come home this
is her her father her stepfather yeah so around 8 A.M that morning two little girls
who oddly enough Deanna occasionally babysat they're walking to their Elementary
School they take this shortcut and they cut behind a senior citizen housing complex this is on Jacques Street
there they find lying near a chain-link fence on the cold ground their Babysitter's Dead Body Deanna was lying
on her back and she's not only dead but she's partially nude yeah this is awful I and just think what
these little girls minds are going through now the spokesperson for the Middlesex DA's
office said that Deanna died from manual strangulation someone killed her by putting their
hands around her throat and choking her to death it was also determined that she had been
sexually assaulted although how that determination was made has never been made public right but we
have a time frame here I mean we know that she called saying that should be home by midnight so now we have to talk
to the boyfriend figure out what time she left but her body's found at 8 00 am so we have roughly a eight hour time
period well and one thing that we do not have that I really wish that we have here because I think this would really
help to hone in on the best suspect available right and that would be the determination or you know police can
figure out detectives can often figure out usually quite easily if in fact our victim was killed where she was found
right was this the murder scene or was it just a dump job was she killed elsewhere and placed here that's
something they've never stated publicly that I could find and I would love to know that information well again this is
less than a block from our home a couple questions I'd have for the boyfriend's family is was there some argument that
night and if she was heading home how would she be heading home is she being dropped off by her boyfriend or is she
walking home uh do you have any clear recollection of that well her murder of course was incredibly shocking to the
city of Somerville this was a nice girl she's hard working she's fun everybody that knew her loved her her body was
dumped very close to her home as you pointed out in her own neighborhood where she should be safe this is a safe
area now to say that people were devastated is really an understatement here in this case over 1 000 people
attended Deanna's funeral her friends blasted Billy Joel's Only the Good Die Young from their cars at the funeral
procession that's a great song which numbered over 150 Vehicles now in our research for
this case we spoke at length with Catherine KREM and Deanna's mother who is still pushing for her daughter's case
to be solved after 25 years some of the information Catherine gave us we cannot share with you because it is being held
back by investigators in hopes of a successful prosecution one day but in the interest of lighting a fire under
prosecutors or perhaps even maybe the perpetrator themselves we're going to share a significant amount of
information about the case and the prime suspect after Deanna was found police scrambled to hunt down the killer of
this vibrant young girl they process the scene questioned her friends canvas the
neighborhood they did all the usual things an attempt to resolve this baffling and brutal murder
on April 5th police released a composite sketch of a man quote seen near the place where the body was found
this man was being sought as a potential witness no information was forthcoming the man in the sketch was described as
40 to 45 years old five foot nine to five foot eleven inches tall 165 pounds this is really kind of weird
and maybe a little unique here Captain because Catherine told us that later she was told that the person who described
this man to police made the whole thing up this was a rather misguided effort to jump start
the investigation and maybe flush out some suspects so does eyewitness just said
I I think I saw somebody that looked like this but they just made the whole damn thing up
that's correct that seems completely irresponsible it's very irresponsible but I think what this person was
attempting to do again a misguided attempt in my opinion what I believe they were attempting to
do was put the heat on the actual suspect making it sound like there was a witness
right there that could place the suspect there with the victim but it sounds like
this eyewitness had a suspect in their own mind could be I have no idea but what they were stating was with the
description of this man that this was a potential witness not necessarily a suspect composite right now as time
passed a week after the murder no arrests have been made and the County DA's office which has jurisdiction over
criminal matters in this area said publicly that they did not have a suspect but they were looking at a few
people the Somerville mayor at the time confirmed that there were three Persons of Interest in Deanna's murder being
looked at by the Somerville PD well the first has to be her boyfriend that's where she was at the night four he's the
last person that we think she was seen with so obviously he's on the suspect list
that's correct Captain the three people that they are going to be looking at and
who are announced by the mayor at the time were in fact one the boyfriend to a first responder and three some creepy
neighborhood rapist guy [Music] thank you [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] all right we're back cheers mates cheers
to you Colonel cheers Captain so in no particular order let's go through these three suspects suspect number one we
will call him Charlie the firefighter so one week after Deanna's murder a story ran in the Boston Globe saying the
investigators questioned a member of the Somerville fire department Indiana's death according to that paper the
firefighter comes from one of the city's politically influential families the article cited Victor Pike Deanna's Uncle
who told the media that Deanna's friends from school told the family that one of
the firemen at the central firehouse on Broadway had recently expressed an interest in Deanna Deanna and her
friends would walk by the firehouse on their way to and from school right one source told the globe that the firemen
have been questioned at least twice by the police department and do we know how old this fireman is well we're going to
get into that and that's going to add to the mystery a little bit and probably the suspicions surrounding this man now
Catherine her mother told us that she later found out some more information on this firefighter he was someone well
known to her as he had been a classmate of hers that's right the firefighter was about
the same age as Deanna's mother yeah find some of your own age you creep bag well so he's about twice the age of
Deanna but he was someone that somehow he struck up a friendship with Deanna regularly talking with her as she passed
by the firehouse it's called grooming now when Deanna told him that she was practicing driving to get her driver's
license right he offered to take her out driving in his car to teach her how to drive it is not known how many times
this happened or how many times they may have hung out but on one of these so-called driving
lessons Deanna's little brother Mark he tagged along he's sitting in the back seat he later tells his mother that he
saw Deanna in this firefighter kissing at some point this was in the months before she was killed
Catherine of course was horrified when she found this out and believes that this man behaved completely
inappropriately but Catherine also believes that he has been for the most part ruled out by investigators right so
he's not he doesn't seem to be high up on the list of suspects oh look again like I said find some of your own age
she's 17 years old she might think she's an adult but at that age they don't it's hard for for
a kid to you know whatever knowledge or sense to understand that that this individual is preying on them when
you're when you're interested in a girl that young when you're that old that you're becoming a predator at that point
yeah and as a taxpayer I would say do your damn job quit trying to pick up young girls yeah play with your own
goddamn hoes on your own goddamn time get back to work sir all right suspect number two we'll call him the creepy
rapist Guy this is a man who was considered a possible suspect this is a local Somerville man who liked to
befriend pretty teenage girls drive them around in his neighborhood buying them booze and cigarettes and
trying to get them up to his apartment I found one person online who posted the following saying that authorities were
looking for anyone who had information on this guy and the post says Antonio d is what this guy's name is AKA Tony
or AKA Vinnie no shoes all right since this guy's a proven [ __ ] bag we will use his real name this is
Antonio just call him uh Tony no shoes I mean that's that's the video no shoes Vinnie no shoes that's degrading enough
well since this guy is a proven [ __ ] bag we will use his real name this is Antonio didalto he went to prison for
rape in 1995. the story on him is this many people mostly females had some contact with this guy he liked to cruise
around Somerville and offer young girls rides right he would then coax them to his apartment where he would often times
ask girls to take off their shoes and jump up and down he was known to cruise the winter hill
Somerville area and Assembly Square Mall areas amongst others so the no shoes Vinnie no shoes comes from the
the weird idea that he's asking these young girls to take off their shoes I've never
um I've never really understood the foot fetish thing well police were desperate
for anyone to come forward who had information on this guy specifically so here's their plea to the public and
persons in Deanna's neighborhood in school do any of you know any contact Deanna may have had with this man please
don't be afraid to come forward we are running out of time every bit of information helps this man is an
extremely dangerous sex offender he is due to be released from prison in September of 2007. he has been serving
time for sexual assault and attempted murder since the summer of 1995. so he was active and violent in
the same year that Deanna was murdered yeah and we know that Deanna was sexually assaulted and she was murdered
this guy was charged and and put away because he raped and attempted murder so we know that this
guy he's a he's a [ __ ] bag but we also know that he's capable of crimes like like this and police specified that this
man Antonio is from Brazil although many in the neighborhood thought that he was
Italian but he's in the system so they should have his DNA they should be able to test it against the DNA found at the
crime scene possibly but then again you got to keep in mind they weren't always collecting offender's DNA different
states started up those programs at different times I know here in Ohio that we've only been doing that for a decade
maybe two at the very most so depending on when they started that up in Massachusetts he may not be in the
system what they were afraid of is that when they're going to let this guy out of prison in September of 2007
they're saying we're running out of time because they think this dude if he's guilty of other crimes
particularly murder that he might just flee back to his Original Country right the media
reported that this suspect was imprisoned in Massachusetts correctional institute uh although they I wasn't able
to find out much about this guy although I did locate some sources that can confirmed his 1995 conviction and the
scheduled release in 2007. right Catherine Deanna's mother told us that this guy was a known sex offender he's a
creep he prayed on teen girls although the woman that he eventually went to prison for raping was older
we should point that out again we don't know whether this guy was officially cleared in Diana's case but he was
looked at and they were asking for law enforcement was asking for more information about this guy specifically
if anybody knew Deanna had ever been in contact with this guy well and even though his victim was older that I don't
think that proves anything we have knowledge of him taking younger girls back to his apartment now suspect number
three is the boyfriend of course we've mentioned him several times before in this story we're calling him Tommy the
boyfriend yeah or AKA Tommy two shoes now Savvy True Crime devoted listeners will notice by now that we have thus far
largely avoided discussing this third suspect in the case right he is as you pointed out Captain
believed to be the last man to see Deanna alive boy the first man on investigators list or boy of course
anyone's going to look at Tommy the boyfriend in this case because he's the boyfriend but again because he is saying
he's the last person to have seen her that night and as we know Deanna was over at his house somewhat late we just
cannot determine what time she supposedly left on that Wednesday night the couple's normal routine this is
where things get really suspicious and look really bad for this guy Tommy Two Shoes their normal routine when Deanna
was over at his house is that after they were done hanging out he would walk her
all of the way to her home right and often they would sit on the front porch and hang out you know extend
their visit if you will on the front porch after he walked her home so what is he claiming happened that night well
I want to point out that his home is .6 miles from her residence not far not far
and again normal routine was for Tommy to walk Deanna home now Tommy says on that night on March 29th
he walked her half of the way home the boy's getting lazy he parted ways at the heath and bond Street's intersection
Deanna was found at 125 jock Street per the boston.com her body was found so close to that spot
it cannot be described in miles but in feet about 400 feet from where he says that he walked her to that night
her body is found at 8 A.M the next morning very suspicious very weird very bizarre again that's where you want
the information do detectives believe she was killed in the spot that she was found but since
this uh Tommy two shoes does he have uh any violent history uh I mean they dated
he said for two years as there would have to be some kind of Rumblings of uh violence against her or maybe verbal
abuse or something well we'll get into some of that but there doesn't seem to be really any of that again we have
Deanna's mother saying that she knew this kid and knew him well and there was no violence in their
relationship all it takes is once though right so well of course everyone finds it
incredibly suspicious that on the night that she happened to be killed it's the one time that he didn't walk her all the
way to her house does he have a reason yes he says that he and his good friend his best friend his name will will say
is Jason the Jason jockstrap and Tommy two shoes did the two of them ordered some food a food delivery that he wanted
to get back to accept the food delivery that he was he had a limited amount of time to walk her home
now now his his friend didn't walk with them no that's correct and this friend Jason lived very close to Tommy's house
this is the weird part so he has an alibi right he has his friend Jason who says yes that's what happened he shows
up at my house we ordered some food and by the way they even have the receipt to
show that to investigators look you probably don't know the details on which direction the friend lived in but
you're talking what do you say 400 feet from where he left her you'd think if this guy lived in the vicinity and he's
waiting for his friend to show up that he would have heard some Rumblings well no the friend lived near Tommy's
house right so 0.6 miles away is Deanna's home the friend Jason his home backed up to
the back of Tommy's house right so he's still close still a little more than a quarter mile that's
not that far you think you'd hear something and also well I don't think she was killed there is what I think
went went down I think that this is a bit of a manufactured uh Alibi but but we can get
into that I want to go through what Catherine her mother says because she believes that maybe Deanna
was going to break up with Tommy and maybe even break up with him that night so she could start dating the Old
firefighter well Krusty yeah that could be who knows but she says that at the time you know before Deanna was killed
she didn't see any of this but later seemed to be able to piece this together she thought that she later learned that
Tommy seemed to be very possessive of her daughter this is because Catherine found a bunch
of letters that Tommy wrote to Deanna which she says shows some very strong indicators of this possessive Behavior
almost to the point which she says she called it being obsessive now after Deanna died Tommy's best friend Jason
told Catherine that anytime Deanna left the room even to just go to the bathroom
or to get a drink right Tommy would really kind of give it to her you know asking her where she was going really
kind of overbearing stuff like ponytail Derek again there were no signs of violence in this relationship although
there was one time that Catherine later recalled when Tommy could not find Deanna that he showed up at her home
and he's he's like clutching the doorway you know and very angrily asking and demanding to know where Dina Deanna was
well yeah hold on a second let's let's not throw this guy completely under the bus because if there's rumors
or some Rumblings that she is doing some driving lessons with this older firefighter so who knows what kind
of stories that she was telling him so he might have heard oh well I just saw your girlfriend in a car with an older
man you know and and she's not answering her pager or something I can see why that would be upsetting to a 19 year old
boy well and I mean you got to keep in mind they were together for about two years so
that that situation does not have to go along with the firefighter situation no it doesn't I'm just saying that we we do
have uh people saying that she was taking these driving lessons and making out with this older firefighter during
the time that they were dating right and that's what one thing that Catherine points out that
that either she believes either Deanna was going to break up with Tommy that night
or maybe they had a fight that night and it could really be about anything but possibly about the firefighter situation
question for you uh what time does Tommy Two Shoes call his buddy to set up this hey after I drop off my
girlfriend then I'll hang out at your house that's some information that I do not have the
detectives would have that information as again he did provide a receipt for this food delivery
so they would have that time and and know that timeline I do not have that information it seems pretty late for
food delivery yeah I'm it's a busy area I would imagine you could get food delivered at 11 12 o'clock again it was
also a school night so it's not like the weekend so less things were probably open it's also in the 90s just less yeah
but that means open in general you always talk about the 90s like it's 100 years ago I you get I remember getting
quite a while ago it was right it's 25 years ago 26 years ago I can remember getting food delivered at 11 12 o'clock
on a on a weeknight but the Catherine goes on to say that Deanna would have had multiple reasons she believes for
breaking up with Tommy that they you know it's kind of young love right you grow up and you kind of grow apart and
they didn't really share the same circle of friends Deanna was getting older and
and Tommy was they had different personalities Catherine describes Deanna as happy-go-lucky while Tommy is
described as a bit of a black cloud you know if they were in a group situation he wouldn't get involved he would kind
of sit off to himself well and also when you have a a relationship where one is in high school and one is not
normally the one that's not in high school doesn't want to do the high school stuff homecoming I don't want to
go to that prom I don't want to go to that I'm too cool for that I'm too old for that I've been there done that and
what is a girl in high school wanted what does she want to do she wants to go to all those events and be around her
friends in the weeks and the months after the murder Tommy behaved somewhat strangely
um for someone who professed to love Deanna he didn't seem to act that way after her death he did attend the
funeral he was quite attentive to Catherine at the funeral but he did not participate
in any of the memorials or vigils dedicated to Deanna when Catherine went over to try to talk
to him this would be about three weeks after Deanna's murder she wanted to get some clear-cut answers
to some questions she had about what happened that night from Tommy right she says that he acted terrified when
Catherine talked about the case uh asking him questions and she told him that night that she thought that the
case would be solved very soon and he seemed to be very terrified at this statement right it's almost like a she
hit a nerve he's been somewhat Cooperative with the police okay so he did lawyer up I don't I'm not going to
fault anyone for getting an attorney it's the responsible thing to do right but he very quickly put him itself in a
situation where he's not talking to police or detectives unless his attorney is there he's got the the lawyer wall
between law enforcement and himself he has refused to take a lie detector test which again yeah I'm not going to fault
anybody for that I don't know that I would ever agree to take one well we look what we've said about lie detector
tests is there's normally three results that you passed or you're deceptive or it's inconclusive so two of the three
results are negative well and if you're innocent there's really no upside to to the test at all
for you so this is the weird thing though he and Jason both pled the fifth at a grand jury inquiry into the murder
so they both refused to answer questions on the grounds that they might incriminate themselves right they said
shady is they said this had to do with they knew a small time drug dealer and that they were that the
questions would have led to information about that situation right and they didn't want to incriminate themselves in
Breaking the Law in that manner that it didn't have anything to do with the murder but again one thing that I
always tell people and that I always point to especially in this type of case where
look the mayor says we got three suspects that we're looking at Tommy he looks better than the other two
in my opinion the creepy rapist guy yeah we know him to be violent and he's he's
a despicable human being but we don't even know if there was any contact between the two of them if they did they
even know each other at all yeah yeah or I mean I guess he could have tried to pick her up that night but still again
with Tommy we we know that they knew each other well yeah we know that the spouse is usually uh a good suspect and
two he's he's already he has two shoes known to have been with the victim a short period of time before her murder
yeah and then the alteration of the stories I mean not that he is changing it but
it's kind of strange that you didn't walk her home that night you normally walk her home it wasn't even like it was
that much further along and then they find her body like you said 400 feet from from where he claims they parted
and then this weird hangout and look look I know the 90s was not a hundred years ago
not that odd for a 19 year old to be going to hang out with his buddy I also question what is his buddy doing uh how
old was his buddy was it buddy living with parents do those parents work regular chefs
it's pretty late to be look if I if I had a 19 year old kid and his buddy stopped by on a school night a
night that I had to work after midnight in the ordered food to me that's a little late too late
maybe I'm an old curmudgeon but I'm just saying I think that's a little too late
it's Fourth meal now two months after Deanna was killed Tommy's own mother was granted a restraining order against
her son this is part of the Boston Globe Tommy's mom sought protection in court from her
son Tommy aged 19 at that time who was one of about 100 people who were questioned by police investigating
Deanna's murder a family friend told the reporter that the restraining order was
not related to Deanna's case she would say only that Tommy had threatened his mom who he was living
with at the time now hold on it's it's related in the sense that it shows his character
this guy is going to be abusive towards women his own mother so it's not that far of a cry to think
that this guy would be abusive towards his own girlfriend yes so this is again per the article quote things had been
going on in the house that did not make her very comfortable meaning the mother he meaning Tommy has a pretty bad temper
but he never hurt her the problems had been exacerbated by his mood swings following his girlfriend's killing
according to the article his mother who had some health issues was eager for Tommy to get the help she believed that
he needed so Tommy moved out of the house and this is when he moves in with his friend Jason
before going on to live at another place uh with his uncle which is in another part of the state of Massachusetts
based on all of these behaviors and actions plus additional information that she was told by authorities and
confidence Catherine kremen has stated overtly that although she initially didn't want to believe it she now thinks
that Tommy was responsible for what happened to Deanna she believes that the authorities came to this same conclusion
but they've not been able to get enough evidence to put forth charges or they've just not it won't be that hard
to get his DNA not done a great job on the investigation I mean she could even hire a a pi to get
a sample of his DNA the problem is he's the boyfriend though because if if it's sexual assault
that's why I pointed out that I don't know how they arrived at that determination right it would be
important to the case to know more about that aspect of the crime as well as the
crime scene itself if she was believed to have been killed in that location or at that location because with the sexual
assault if you find someone else's DNA in regards to the sexual assault that gives you a suspect a murder
suspect if you find Tommy's DNA well we know that they were boyfriend girlfriend they had a long-term
relationship she was at his house that night it can be explained away yeah but he doesn't have to be the killer to be
you know he doesn't have to be a rapist and a killer in her situ in this situation he could simply be the
boyfriend in the killer again if I'm if I'm the mother I'm the father I if I'm a family friend or just a
friend I'm hiring a private investigator I'm getting his DNA I'm having it tested
or getting at least two police to say look here's his DNA because what police have is the records
of actually talking to Tommy and maybe Tommy said hey we uh yeah we made out and stuff but no no we
didn't have sex that night we don't know what he has answered uh in the interviews with police
now unfortunately after Deanna's murder Catherine's marriage to Michael kremen fell apart you know we've seen this time
and time again in these cases where bereaved parents are dealing with their grief in different ways
Catherine descended into alcoholism she lost her job at the accounting department she lost her house
and she temporarily lost custody of two of her three other kids uh two of them were minors at this time it took years
for her to pull herself back together Deanna's Sister Christine had to step in and act as a parental figure
as a parental figure to her two little brothers for some time she said to boston.com quote my mother and father
both fell apart I had to be the mother to my two brothers at 18 years old I'm gonna applaud her
effort and her love towards her family she said that it it she said that it wasn't Deanna dying it
was like my whole family pretty much died devastated by the loss of Deanna and the
disintegration of the family Michael kremen died in 2008 at the age of just 58. wow and it stated
quote he truly died a Broken Man over the loss of Deanna it destroyed him and tragically Deanna's Sister Christine
died at the age of 40 in 2017 without ever seeing her sister's case solved yeah again this is a tough one I mean
you would think that again with the three suspects it's hard to know where the the local creep is
but look if this guy as a rapist and an attempted murderer it's probably just going to get worse
and worse for him as far as the crimes and he might possibly be back in jail right now for all we know is it worse
for parents of a murdered child to feel that nothing is happening in the investigation that no one is really
working on the case or is it worse if parents are continually told that there is hope
that there is movement on the case only to have their hopes dashed over and over
again because the latter is what has happened for Catherine kremen authorities keep dangling a resolution
and then it fails to materialize yeah and and we've seen that like within the Delphi murders it seems like they keep
saying hey we're we're one piece away well you've been saying that for years so maybe maybe you're more than one
piece away uh you know I don't know it's it's very difficult because it's same way with like missing person cases I
used to fault the family for not wanting to get heavily involved but then you've
seen families that get heavily involved in a case and then they get railroaded so the more we do this the more on a
case-by-case basis the family the individual has to decide what's correct for them and it's just it's such a
tragic thing to see and again I love how they describe her they don't describe her as perfect but she was perfect to
them with all her flaws she was perfect to them and to see how much this can crush a family and alter
so many people's lives it's it's it's sad and it's pathetic and it's and it's also pathetic
that we live in a society where just because you're female that puts a motive on your back
for murder or rape or whatever I mean it's pathetic I guess I guess having hope is not a bad thing if you're going to
dive into the case doing as much research as you can uh and collecting your own evidence listening to the cops
I think is important but doing your own research and your own investigation would be important as well
well I want to go through some of the timeline of things that have taken place since the murder so
on the 10th anniversary if you will of Deanna's murder the Boston Globe article a Boston Globe article ran that said
Authority said yesterday they are closer than they have ever been to finding the
person who killed Deanna the Middlesex District Attorney's office said that the new forensic technology has helped
authorities make progress in the case and that investigators are looking for specific people who they believe know
what happened in the last couple of months we believe we've made some developments on the forensic front this
was said by the district attorney however the district attorney declined to provide specific details right but
did say we do believe that a person or people know about this murder and may have seen
this murder and we urge them to come forward this article goes on to quote Catherine and says I believe I know who
is the person responsible but I am not allowed to talk about it I don't want to hurt the investigation
so that was in 2005 but nothing happened no charges no arrest all that happened was that six different district
attorneys have since been in office over the years and every time that a new one
comes in the investigation gets a bump gets hyped up a little bit right and then nothing ever really happens in 2009
the new district attorney stated that the murder would be solved but law enforcement needed Witnesses who had
remained silent to come forward again nothing did the new district attorney come forward and say it's going to take
another six District Attorneys to get this thing solved well six more years passed and in 2015 another article ran
in the Boston Herald this time saying that the case is still an open and very active investigation
the district attorney at that time added that within the past six months let's just say there's been some advances in
the case but would not comment further around that same time boston.com contained the following information
evidence is being reanalyzed using forensic technology that didn't exist 20 years ago this according to the district
attorney this continues to be a very active investigation but the family has heard
this obviously before and it's just frustrating that they keep being told that this is going to be solved and that
they're going to get some action here and some results and it just doesn't seem to be going anywhere well the thing
is and and we know this as as time goes on that technology gets better and this is definitely a field of Technology we
need smart individuals that are passionate about solving crimes to get involved in the Sciences Behind These
and we're going to start seeing hundreds of cold cases solved because of new technology and it's just pathetic that
there is there's some scumbag piece of [ __ ] out there that's been out there living a free life while this family
suffers well and I think the situation that they're really looking for here look that's what they have to say kind
of publicly hey we're making some movement on this case it's really heating up we're going to solve this
thing soon but notice every time they say that they are asking for witnesses to come forward right well it's almost
an excuse to get it back in the papers or on the news to say that there's we've made some movement right on this case is
it really just you're just throwing that out there because you're reminding the public that this murder happened that
this young girl who had a big bright future ahead of her was killed in a very violent way in personal way in my
opinion and we need witnesses to come forward we need people to tell us that person a was not where they say they
were that night person a did not do what they said they did that night yeah that
could be as simple as the boyfriend's friend coming forward and saying hey story didn't go down the way he said it
did there was some information that came out in 2017 and I'm not going to I'm not going to go through the full
story because at first I thought this was really something here in this case it made some sense when I first started
looking at it there was information that came out that said that it was a cover-up at the time
that the the whole thing was covered up by the mayor's office in 1995 that they were investigating someone that was
somehow connected to powerful people and that the mayor the office may have covered it up somehow the reason why I
don't want to stay on this very long is because Deanna's family does not believe
that that is in any way true at all and I think that the thing that we can cite here is the Somerville mayor at the time
publicly stated that the police department was looking at three suspects and Deanna's mother says that the mayor
at the time back in 95 has been one of the most supportive people in this entire case supportive throughout the
the years right uh over and over again so right but to cover something up you need to be extra supportive if if she
doesn't believe it if the family doesn't believe it I don't believe it I don't know that this is any credible
information at all again the the problem with any type of cover-up is a lot of these people get into positions where
they're trying to serve the community they get in those positions because they're good people that want to make a
difference so for those people to just turn a blind eye to this 17 year old child being murdered
you have to be a A Low Down pile of scum to to do that I'm not saying that cover-ups don't happen I'm just saying
that it's normally where this whole institution is turning a blind eye or this whole organization or you know
sometimes people go oh well it's a cover-up by the police department so you're telling me
20 good people are turning a blind eye to a murder uh it normally just doesn't line up or
add up it seems like Deanna's family believes that it's generally known who killed Deanna but that the case is
stalled because of a lack of evidence or at least that's what they've been told by the district attorney
now whether or not a prosecution could be successful based on what they have or what we've seen that's been
released to the public is really just a matter of opinion you know we've seen circumstantial evidence against Tommy
the boyfriend the fact that he didn't walk her home the fact that he hasn't cooperated the fact that he was the last
person to see her that he had two but then you have to wonder what is the actual physical evidence again we want
to know more about the crime scene more about the evidence authorities are not saying what they have or what they do
not have and it has been stated however that Deanna was sexually assaulted but again it's not known how they came
to that conclusion so one thing that investigators are not talking about in this case is DNA
you know it seems to me that had they found DNA on Deanna that did not belong to Tommy the boyfriend or a family
member if there was stranger DNA on her then that would have been revealed at some point over the years one like you
said I mean you go well Tommy's her boyfriend so of course his DNA is going to be on her touch DNA is going to be on
her but if there's nobody else's DNA on her then Bingo well and the thing too Captain why would this not be
revealed because one it would help the public it might help these witnesses that you keep asking for come forward
and if there was stranger DNA in theory that would virtually clear Tommy from any suspicion at all when we start
questioning why the cops did this and why didn't they do this or why why are they coming out with more information
that's why you say well no [ __ ] the case hasn't been solved yeah and I I really think that we're
going to start learning more from this as time goes on and in cases that are not solved from the 80s cases that are
not solved from the 90s that law enforcement now is going to say hey we need eyewitnesses to come forward in
this murder case that happened over the weekend we have to come out now with information because we can't wait 10
years we can't wait 20 years when people move out of the area people stop talking
about it you again you said oh well the 90s man it's it's not that long ago it feels to me like a million years ago so
if you have an individual that kind of has some suspicion or maybe did see Tommy walking a little bit further with
his girlfriend that night than he claims he did well so much time has gone past you're
not going to sit around and feel guilty or bad about it you've probably moved on
or you probably convinced yourself that maybe you didn't see it that way you see what I'm saying so as time goes
on you're less likely to get a witness that is sitting around all worried about it or somebody that
maybe at first was scared that if it was Tommy two shoes that he's going to come after them well
now after 20 years maybe no contact with Tommy two shoes and they're going hey I don't feel any threat I don't feel any
reason for coming forward it's none of my business well I will I will try to put this in a in a
brighter light with a little bit of optimism here because in 2019 the district attorney announced the
launch of a new Cold Case unit so of course they're going to be looking at murders and cold cases in that area
so I think that that is a positive move especially in a case that I think is a little cold after all of these years
now Catherine her mother has been a fierce advocate for her daughter for her daughter's case not only has she spoken
publicly about the case on TV and in podcasts and in articles but she's also the administrator of the justice for
Deanna kremen Facebook page and has written a blog post about the case she has organized marches demonstrations
where she yells for justice through a megaphone and she has made it clear over and over again to Tommy that she
suspects him of killing her daughter she has told Tommy time and time again that
she will continue to be a pain in the ass until the case is solved and her only real hope in light of the failure
of the authorities to prosecute the case is that he may crack at some point and confess what he has done despite all the
challenges facing the kremen family they have done a remarkable job of managing to keep Deanna's Spirit Alive
for now over 25 years in 1997 they got a billboard erected in Somerville that advertised a reward for information in
the case the billboard is renewed annually on it appears the amount of the reward
which is currently seventy thousand dollars seven zero thousand dollars and the words on the billboard say quote
you know what you did to me how much longer must I wait please help make my time in heaven restful
there are trees and benches around the city that are dedicated to Deanna the Deanna kremen rewards scholarship gives
500 annually to a recipient in the child development program at shs where Deanna
was enrolled in 2013 hundreds of people gathered to observe the 18th anniversary
of Deanna's Murder By symbolically walking her home marching from the intersection where Tommy says he left
her to the family's home Catherine now has three grandchildren her granddaughter's middle name is Deanna
anyone with information regarding Deanna crimin's death can contact the Middlesex
County District Attorney's office at 617-679-6600 or the Somerville police department at 617-625-1600
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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the murder of Deanna Crimin, suspects, and the investigation's challenges in seeking justice.

Key points

The Murder of Deanna Crimin. A beautiful young woman is brutally murdered just yards from her home.
The Discovery of Deanna's Body. Two girls find Deanna's body near a senior housing complex.
The Investigation Begins. Police scramble to find the killer of Deanna Crimin after her body is discovered.
The Creepy Rapist Guy. A local man known for befriending teenage girls and offering them rides is a suspect.
Tommy Two Shoes. The boyfriend of Deanna, last seen with her, has a suspicious alibi.
Tommy's Restraining Order. Tommy's mother sought a restraining order against him, raising concerns about his behavior.

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I am so thankful for your kindness.

A mother expressing gratitude for support during grief.

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