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crime [Music] this is true crime garage and this is the case of Casey Anthony sound being recorded hello hi I
I drove to the police department here on persy if you guys are closed I need to bring someone into the police department
can you tell me where I can the closest one I can come into what what are you trying to accomplish by bringing them to
the station I have a 22y old person that has um Grand be sitting in my auto with
me so the 22y old person stole something yes is this a relative yes where did they steal it
from um my car and also money okay is this your son daughter okay so your daughter stole money from
your car no my car was stolen we've retrieved it today we found out where it was at
retrieved it I've got that and I've got affidavit for my banking account I want to bring her in press charget where
where did all of this happen oh it's it's been happening I know but I need to establish a
jurisdiction is what I'm trying oh I live in um in Orlando yeah but what address did these thefts occur at um
well I guess my residence I guess okay that's actually going to be in the jurisdiction of the Sheriff's Office ma'
not orando Police Department all right let me transfer you over to the communications section for Orange County
okay now is the orando sheriff's department the one on 436 that is that open this afternoon
this evening um the substation you're at on purging if it's Orlando Police re open primarily during the day uhhuh but
that's not the sheriff that's City police which does not have jurisdiction for your I know there's the sheriff's
department on I mean on 436 well what I'm going to do is I'm going to transfer you to the Sheriff's communication
section and you can um determine that hold on okay CU my next thing will be down the
child thing and we'll have a court order get that's where you want to play we'll
do it you'll never well then you have no I'm not giving you another day I've giving you a
month 911 what is the address what's happening um I have someone here that I need to um be arrested in my
home they're there right now possible missing child I have a three-year-old that's been missing for a month a
three-year-old yeah have you reported that I'm trying to do that now ma'am okay what did the person do that
you need arrested my daughter for what for stealing an auto and stealing money I already spoke with someone they
said they would patch me through the Orlando um Sheriff's Department have a deputy here I was in the car I was going
to drive her to the police station and my one's open they said they would bring a deputy to my home when I got home to
call them so she stole your vehicle yes when did she do that um on the 30th I just got it back
from the impound I'd like to speak to an officer can you have someone come out to
my house okay okay I got to ask you these questions if I can put them in the in the call okay
okay 30th of June yes okay how old is your daughter 22 hey what's her name my name her name her
name and you said you have this vehicle back yes that has the um statement she's
there right now yes I got her I finally found her after a month she's been missing for a month I found her but we
can't find my granddaughter um 5 foot one and a half thin medium or heavy buil thin color hair brown
what color uh shirt is you wearing white what color pan oh they're shorts they're um plaid
they're like pink and teal and white black plaid does she have any weapons on her
no is he not telling you where her daughter is correct okay we'll have a deputy out to
you as soon as one's available okay thank you thank you bye bye 911 what's your emergency I called a little bit ago the
deputy sheriff I found out my granddaughter has been taken she has been missing for a month her mother
finally admitted that she's been missing someone here now okay what is the address that you're calling from we're
talking about a three-year-old little girl my daughter finally admitted that the baby's in the
store I need to find her your daughter admitted that your the baby is where baby said took her a month ago that that
my daughter's been looking for I told you my daughter was missing for a month I just found her today but I can't find
my granddaughter she just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself there's something wrong I found
my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in a damn car okay what is a three-year-old name
kayy c a y l e e Anthony kayy Anthony yes okay is she white Black Or Hispanic she's
white how long has she been missing for I have not seen her since the 7th of June what is her date of
birth um 8 89 200000 oh God she's three she's 2005 Casey says took her a month ago she's been listening for a mon okay
I just can I need I I understand can you just can you calm down for me for just a
minute and just I need to know what's going on okay I'm gonna try and we can start is your is your daughter there
have fun with them is daughter there yes can I speak with her do you mind if I speak with her
thank you I called them two hours ago they haven't gotten here she finally admitted
took her month ago ma'am ma'am they want to talk to question hello hello yes hi well can
you can you tell me what's going on a little bit I'm sorry can you tell me a little bit what's going
on my daughter's been missing for the last 31 days and you know who has her I know who
has her I've tried to contact her I actually received a phone call today now from a number that is no longer in
service I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment about a minute okay did you guys call and report
a vehicle stolen um yes my mom did okay so there's been a vehicle stolen too no this is my
vehicle what vehicle was stolen um it's a 98 Pontiac Sunfire okay I have deputies on the way to you right now for
that but now you're now you're threey old okay you're three old daughters missing Kaye Anthony yes white female
Anthony yes white female three years old 89 2005 is her date of birth yes and you
last saw her a month ago 31 days I'm 31 one days who has her you do you have a name
her name is Zena Fernandez Gonzales who is that babysitter she's she's been my nanny for about a year and
a half almost two years can why why are you calling now why didn't you call 31 days ago I've
been looking for her and have gone through other resources to try to find her which was stupid okay can you can
you give me the name of the The Nanny again like spell it out for me Ziva z n a i d
a last name Fernandez Fernandez hyen Gonzalez I think the officers are here the officers are there yes okay
hold on a second don't hang up with me [Applause] yet I need you okay [Music] Kaye Anthony was born August 9th 2005
she lived with her mother Casey and Casey's parents George and Cindy Anthony in a ranch style home in Orlando Florida
Casey was 19 when she gave birth to Kaylee in June of 2008 the two were still living with George and Cindy
Kaylee is now 2 years old and Casey 22 years old on June 9th Casey and Kaylee move out of George and Cindy's house and
move in with Casey's ex-boyfriend Ricardo Morales and his friend Amy on Sunday June 15th 2008 Kaylee goes with
Cindy to visit Cindy's father in an assisted living facility later that day Kaylee and Cindy swim together in the
Anthony amilies above ground pool this is Father's day and before the night was over there was going to be a showdown in
the Anthony household and I'm guessing that this was not the first of its kind Cindy who was 50 years old she is
attacking Casey's parenting skills or lack thereof right Casey decides to argue back and this argument becomes
pretty heated and at one point allegedly Cindy is threatening that her and George
are going to take legal custody of Kaye mhm and at some point Cindy has her hands around Casey's neck George ends up
diffusing the situation uh and everybody they they just kind of part their ways but a
pretty heated argument takes place that evening the next day is Monday June 16th
now this is a workday and at this time Cindy is a nurse and she works during the day George is working basically a
second shift security job his workday typically starts at 300 p.m. so after Cindy leaves for work work we would just
have Casey and Kaylee and George there for the morning hours mhm until Casey goes off to work and Kaylee goes to the
babysitter's apartment George would later say that he last Saw Casey and Kaylee as they left the house at 12:50
p.m. at 2:30 p.m. George left for work and this would be the last time any of her parents actually see Casey with
Kaylee yes in the next few weeks George and Cindy do not see Casey or Kaylee they they did however talk on the phone
with Casey several times MH on these occasions Cindy would ask to speak with the little Kaylee and each time she
would be unable to do so because the child was with her nanny or at an amusement park but she was the little
kid was always busy doing something and Cindy would not be able to speak with her Casey would tell her parents that
she was she was quite busy mostly with work uh and some personal things as well and where is she working at she was
currently working at the very popular Universal Studio Theme Park mhm on June 30th a 1998 white Pontiac Sunfire was
towed from a store parking lot the vehicle was considered to have been abandoned and was transferred to the
Johnson's recer service inpound lot on July 3rd Cindy posted on her Myspace page the following this precious angel
from above gave me strength and unconditional love jealousy has taken her away jealousy from the person who
should be thankful for all of the support given to her on July 7th pretty much we can assume in retaliation Casey
post on her own page what is titled Diary of days that says what is given can be taken away everyone lies everyone
dies life will never be easy well and for kids that don't understand what Myspace is MySpace was basically the
precursor to Facebook but again don't you don't need to air your dirty laundry on social media for everybody out there
to see huh yeah well I just think it's hilarious like oh I'm going to make this statement and then and I'm not going to
address who I'm talking to and then they're going to make a statement it's just very childish on July 15th George
Anthony at he's at home and he does he post on his Myspace page George got on there and said yes everybody does die
and everybody lies I don't have any posts from George but on on on the 15th of July when he's at home receives a
certified letter from Johnson's recer service this notifying him that the 1998 Pontiac Sunfire registered to him and
his wife Cindy has been sitting in the impound lot George then calls Cindy Cindy is at work and the two go to
retrieve the vehicle uh this is of major concern to both George and Cindy because
even though the vehicle is owned by the two of them the vehicle was primarily being used by Casey to the point of well
you'd probably just consider the car to be hers right and this was the car that Casey and Kaylee had left the Anthony
house in on June 16th right and this is going to be pretty alarming to the parents because not only are they
worried about their daughter but they're also worried about their granddaughter yeah the two were supposed to have been
on a mini vacation in Jacksonville Florida so finding this vehicle abandoned is very scary for them um they
get to the impound lot but before George attempted to start the Sunfire he asked
the impound lot attendant to check the trunk of the vehicle with him uh they both smelled a terrible smell inside the
vehicle and he thought they better check the trunk because George thought it was
possible that he might find the body of Casey or Kaylee or maybe even both of them in the trunk with the with the
vehicle being abandoned right now listeners are probably thinking how does this make any sense well let's go back a
little bit with George's History George was uh police officer for a time period and also in his trans transition phase
of work he was also security guard M so at his time of being uh in law enforcement he smelled you know a dead
body correct and so he feels like what he is smelling is that of a dead body and the crazy thing here too Captain is
that not only does George have that experience but I don't have the gentleman that from the impound lot I
don't have his name here with me he's actually familiar with that experience as well because they had they had towed
a vehicle at one point and there was they found a body in it you know days after it sat on the lot um instead you
know the two men they po the trunk uh and thankfully so they they find a white trash bag full of garbage uh this kind
of explaining the smell to the two men uh George looked in the bag the attendant then removed the bag and threw
it in a dumpster the vehicle they found was out of gas so they put a little gas in the car and George drove off in the
Sunfire Cindy was Furious about the car uh and so she makes some calls to some of Casey's friends because she wants to
not only is she Furious that the car has been towed I mean they had to pay a small fortune to get this car back and
then on top of that you know this is a car you're letting your daughter use right you're paying the insurance you're
you probably paid for the car yeah and you're you're helping out your kid this car is abandoned but but also you're
probably worri worried about your child's safety well and this is you know here's somebody that they keep enabling
and enabling uh George in one of his statements to the law enforcement claims that there was multiple times where you
know she would steal gas from the home or she'd steal money you know here and there to to fill up the tank but also
she had an easy pass and instead of slowing down for the Easy Pass well no maybe she didn't have an easy pass but
she would claim well I threw the money in there and the you know the toll pass for anybody that doesn't know so we have
some states have tolls that you have to pay and she would go through these toll Lanes claim that she put money in it and
then come back and he would be fine because the car was registered in their name correct so whoever the car is
registered in has to pay those fines and so this guy is going look we help you with your daughter you know we help with
our grandkid we pay for your gas we paid for the car pay for the insurance and you can't even pay the toll right right
and now I have to go down and fish this car out of an impound lot and then on several occasions too they they believed
that Casey had used their credit cards or charge cards without permission so this is kind of an ongoing thing and I
think what takes over here is you might lose track about worrying about the safety of the kid and now you're just so
Furious that this is just continually happening again and again right and when when uh they go to visit the the
grandfather that's in the nursing home that's another thing that's going on is they have a separate bank account that
has money for him MH and there's actually some suspicious uh some suspicion that Casey is taking money
from that account as well so they got a big problem on their hands yeah yeah so Cindy she tracks Down Casey uh calling
some of her friends and finds out that Casey is in fact she's not in in Jacksonville at all uh she is at her
boyfriend's home uh this is Tony Lazaro and Cindy drives out to Tony's condo uh she of course finds Casey there she is
trying to get Casey and Kaylee to come home and she starts telling Casey that you know what if she can't talk Casey
into coming home then she would just take Kaylee and take Kaylee home with her but Kaylee is not there she's not at
the condo Casey finally agrees to go home with Cindy Cindy then calls the police on the way home right those are
the 911 tapes you heard heard earlier yeah and she wants to charge her daughter with stealing the vehicle and
stealing some money from her MH once they get back home Cindy calls 911 again requesting an officer to the house so
that she can make a report against her daughter then a short time later a third call is made and of course we we just
heard all three of these calls uh earlier but it's the third call when little Kaylee is finally reported
missing not by Casey but by kayle's grandmother Cindy one has to wonder had Cindy not gone to Tony's condo and
Tracked Down Casey that night how long would it have been until little Kaye would be reported missing right
currently we're at 31 days and what's interesting about that 911 call the third one is when she is calling and
she's she tells Casey hey they want to talk to you and you can hear faintly Casey Anthony say I don't have any
anything to talk to them about now your daughter has been missing for 31 days and you don't got anything to talk to
the law enforcement about that you know that's pretty strange to me well when the Orange
County Sheriff's Department arrived at the Anthony Hol it's detective Yuri melish that will be in charge of
interviewing the family and taking statements George had told melish that George had once worked in law
enforcement up in Warren Ohio and that Casey was not being truthful and that they had retrieved the car from the
impound lot earlier that day and that the vehicle smelled and these are his words smelled like death right uh malish
focused on Casey's statements uh he asked her to repeat her story several times and even asked her if she would
like to change anything before he took a sworn statement from her she did not want to change anything and she
delivered the same story time and time again well remember she has nothing to talk to them about well Casey stated
that she had last seen Kaye on the morning of June 9th uh so we have a discrepancy in days already Casey took
Kaye to the babysitters on her way to work the babysitter is well let's just let's be clear about this discrepancy
she's saying well the last time I saw my daughter was June 9th right but the last
time that any of the family members recall seeing her with the granddaughter is on the 16th June 16th right the
babysitter's name is zenid Fernandez Gonzalez more famously known as zany The Nanny yes and she according to Casey
lives in Orlando's Saw Grass Apartments in unit 210 uh which is located on the second floor Casey said that she went
back to the apartment after work to pick up Kaye but no one was home no one answered the door she called Z Zen's
cell phone and again no answer uh Casey states that she waited in front of the apartment for a while expecting them to
return she then went to Blanchard Park where zenid sometimes took the kids right uh after which she then went to
some stores and shops where she thought she may find the babysitter with Kaylee which makes all logical sense I go to
pick up my kid from the babysitter they're not there well where could they be right and also you know cell phones
are pretty popular at this point so you could be making some calls you can be sending out some TT
messages she tried calling her and says that that there was no answer on the phone so she goes around looking for
Kaye and the babysitter even at the stores and the shop but again this doesn't pan out and uh she decides that
after not being able to find the two that she would go to her boyfriend's condo where she had been staying since
uh she said that she was staying at Tony's because she felt safe there and that while she was staying there she was
actually conducting her own investigation to locate Kaye M and to get her daughter back um she didn't
contact law enforcement because she had seen on TV and in movies that when a person is kidnapped or taken hostage
that people get hurt once law enforcement is contacted Casey was asked to produce the babysitter's phone number
which she says she doesn't have this number memorized uh but the number is stored on her phone which has been left
at her office at work at Universal Studios Casey says that she has known zenid for years and she's been watching
and taking care of Kaylee for almost two years yeah a year and a half to two years she says that she met zenid from a
mutual friend his name is Jeffrey Hopkins Casey worked with Jeffrey Hopkins and Jeffrey's son four-year-old
Zach was one of the kids that zenid was watching and caring for as well then law
enforcement are going to wonder well if you didn't tell your parents you know that 31 days ago that The Nanny took
your kid who did you tell yeah yeah so she states that she did tell some of her co-workers uh she told Jeffrey Hopkins
who we already mentioned as well as Juliet Lewis another cooworker at Universal Juliet Lewis okay when asked
if her in investigation had provided any intel she says no uh what efforts did she make to track down Kaylee Casey says
she tried to make contact with Zen's mother Gloria uh she in fact made several attempts to call and get in
touch with Gloria Gloria Stefan uh could she give the detective Gloria's phone number and she states no
that she could not uh double-checking that this is not simply a custody dispute uh they inquire about the father
of Kaye and they learn from Casey uh that the father's name is Eric and Eric had died in a car accident Casey's
parents tell the detective they have never met Eric Eric detective melish asked Casey if she had any problems with
narcotics specifically cocaine ecstasy meth or anything like that uh Casey States no she doesn't have any drug
problems melish then ask if Casey had ever been to Lakeside which is a local mental health facility and she states
that she has not we're going to get right back to the law enforcement questioning of Casey Anthony right after
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regarding The Disappearance of her daughter Kaylee now remember she had stated that she had in fact told two
co-workers that the nanny had run off with with her daughter and she was conducting her own investigation right
they want to know more about about these co-workers and this is Jeffrey and Juliet that we had mentioned earlier so
they ask you know does Juliet still work at Universal Casey says yes she does well what is Juliet's job Casey says
that she's an EV an event coordinator okay great can you give us her phone number no she cannot and in
fact this must have triggered some memory because Casey explains that she was mistaken that Juliet does not work
for Universal anymore that she left 2 months ago and moved back to her home state of New York so
let's go to Zen's apartment and see what's going on over there right right so they asked Casey if she could take
them to the babysitter's apartment of course she can and she said that she would she would be pretty sure that she
could yeah that's a that's a flag there right yeah yeah cuz when I drop my kids off at the babysitter I'm not really for
sure which apartment they go into well cas Anthony leads them to the apartment complex and then to the upstairs
apartment unit of 210 yeah she gets out of her car that gets out of the police officer's car and says she lives in that
one mhm well the sheriff's department quickly discovered that no one is living in the apartment uh melish then asked if
uh if she could think of any other place where zenid would have lived before you
know she started living there well now now look look I I don't know if this raises that many Flags because if you
take somebody's kid you might not be there right you might just pack up all your stuff and hit the road mhm well
Casey explains that she knows where Zena's mother Gloria used to live and she says that she could take them to
Gloria with the sound machine apartment complex they arrive as directed by Casey
and this turns out that the place is a home for the elderly melish checks with the home no one there has has ever heard
of Gloria surprise surprise they drive around with Casey until 3: in the morning and then they take her back home
to the anony and when they get back to the anthonies so they drop her off but what's interesting here is that George
is going to come out and talk to the police officers yeah he's he's going to tell melish that Casey has been lying to
him and that there is something very suspicious going on in his opinion and that the detective should continue to
investigate this the next morning Casey and Cindy spend most of the morning building Myspace and Facebook pages for
missing Kaylee Anthony yeah that's they were also texting and calling friends and persons in the community to organize
a search and spreading the word of kayle's disappearance and I yeah I think it was uh the day before or that day was
when there was a a mass text message group you know where you group everybody and I think she's uh Casey sends out a
huge text message to everybody all her contacts saying hey look my daughter's been missing now for 32 days and and you
know if you have any information I think the Nanny took her mhm well it's around
noon that Casey is picked up by the sheriff's department and they are going to go looking for Casey's phone at her
work so they can start reaching out to the babysitter and the co-workers uh you know she she didn't
know these phone numbers so we have to get to that phone right Casey agrees to go with the officers to Universal
Studios however she informs them that her phone has been stolen and this occurred while she was at work she has
reported the incident to loss prevention and they are looking for Casey Anthony's
phone right when they pull up to the security check-in gate at Universal Casey does not have her identification
badge with her oh really she explains that she has lost the badge the officers convinced security to let them through
they pulled up to an office building Casey takes the officers inside makes a left-hand turn and walks them back down
a back hallway when she suddenly well well you're missing a part of the story cuz they actually talked to one of like
the front front of house people and she's saying hey well I need to talk to this person well what's their extension
well this is their extension there's nobody the extension didn't work right right so this guy has no clue you know
so not only does the front gate let them through but the front office then they go okay well if you want to search
around maybe I am mistaken you're here with law enforcement you claim you work here
so okay find your office yeah and when she goes down this Corridor or it goes down this hallway they go to a dead end
yeah and and then she turns around and says uh I don't work here yeah okay I don't work here and and the police
officer kind of they kind of had their suspicion that this was the case anyways but they wanted her to come out and and
be the one to say I'm lying yeah and I think they wanted to give her enough rope to hang herself as the old
expression goes um what they were able to confirm is the following they did confirm that Casey had in fact worked at
Universal at one time however she had been fired April 24th 2006 when she failed to show up for work right which
was like 2 years prior mhm the detectives are at Universal with her on July 16th 2008 and she hadn't worked
there for over two years right a quick check of the names of the co-workers that Casey had said she told about The
Disappearance of Kaylee Jeffrey Hopkins uh he did work at Universal but he was fired back in 2002 and Juliet Lewis did
not exist they couldn't find any record of her at all Julia Lewis driis right yeah and and Casey had also said that
her Supervisor was Tom Frank uh Tom also did not exist well that's a horrible name to come up with Tom Frank yep well
that was her boss welcome to True Crime garage my name is Tom Frank well they decide to arrest Casey and they take her
back to the station for further questioning and even when they confront her with her lies Casey sticks to her
story um she claims she did not know where Kaylee was and again the last time she had seen her was with zenida with
the babysitter was on the nth now okay here's a list of the lies so far one your kid didn't go missing on the 9th
your parents saw the kid with you on the 16th mhm so line number one uh I work at
this place I've been working there for 2 years she been telling your parents that
you've been working at this place for 2 years lie mhm she's with the nanny she lives here lie yeah well they they
confirmed I work here they confirmed that that not only did zenid Fernandez Gonzalez not live there um she never
lived there right that that apartment had been vacant for 142 days no one had occupied that space for 142 days right
and so then when she says well I told this person at work I told this person at work one person worked there the
other two people were made up now the police officer have to be thinking that zany the nanny is probably a fictitious
person mhm mhm so I mean we got a slew of Lies you know and then again oh well we're going you've been lying to your
parents for 30 some days right so every time you called and every every time you
talked to your parents you lied yeah for 31 days she wasn't in Jacksonville like
she said she would be she was at the boyfriend's apartment uh uh and then furthermore you know the the crazy thing
here Captain is people lie I get it right there there are people out there that lie but the thing that seems very
crazy to me is is that she has given detailed lies she's she's come up with names first and last names of people
she's given them job titles she's also stated that Juliet Lewis was an event coordinator who just quit two months ago
and returned to her home state of New York right yeah and she went on to tell that you know Juliet Lewis came from a
um a well-to-do background that she grew up in New York she worked on the Seinfeld show she grew up in New York
and then she moved to Florida uh to go to college and then afterwards she started working at Universal so she's
got this whole life story for some of these people we're talking about Jeffrey Hopkins uh she states that he has a
four-year-old son Zack who is being watched by the same Nanny as her daughter Kaye I mean these are these are
extensive lies here you're making up fake people and then giving them fictitious well look that makes a lot of
sense if you're a fake person why wouldn't you have a fictitious son you know what I'm saying I
mean look there are some people that are just chronic Liars habitual Liars yeah that's the ticket and that's what she is
MHM you know well she's arrested and charged with child neglect this is for failing to report missing especially
after this much time has passed and she has been lying to law enforcement obviously Casey was originally assigned
a public defender lawyer however she had asked a relative to contact a private attorney to see about taking her case
attorney Jose bz was operating a small firm in Kissam Florida and he gets the phone call uh his secretary sent him to
the jail to meet with his new potential client Jose was unaware that this case had been on the news at this time when
bz arrived at the jail there was a public defender waiting there to meet with Casey the public defender advised
Casey not to speak with anyone that the case had been on the news and detectives
would probably be going down there again soon to meet with her for further questioning and she should not be
talking with anyone unless she has an attorney representing her and present during any and all talks the public
defender then left why cuz everything she's going to say is just you know Malarkey anyways the public defender
then left and Jose Bas meets with Casey Anthony for the first time and what they
have to do is they have a bond hearing set so they got to figure out what the bond is and then if can they pay that so
she can actually go home yeah the first thing that Jose says that he believes to
be strange about this whole case is that when he's reviewing Casey Anthony's paperwork it clearly states on their no
bond and most of the time with these lesser charges especially for someone without a criminal history usually they
set a reasonable dollar amount to set to set for this person to make bail right I
think the problem here though is what he's not understanding is when you lie to a law enforcement over and over and
over and we have a missing child that's under the age of three we might start suspecting Foul Play immediately well
and you're exactly right and that's something that he quickly realizes he does realize that you know what this
this phone call that I got regarding a child neglect case uh is in fact a missing person's case and this could
very likely turn into a homicide case um Jose Bas then goes and meets with Casey's parents uh for the first time
and he's explaining he's explaining what he's going to do is file a motion to get
Casey out of jail during this visit Cindy would EXP explain to Jose the many excuses that Casey had told her during
the 31 days that Kaye and Casey were not at their home you know and we don't need
to go through all of these stories because we all obviously know now that these were all lies uh most of the
excuses involve Casey's job which we know she didn't have and the nanny which after learning about the apartment it
looks like nanny The Nanny doesn't even exist right and then let's just get that
whole part out of the way the the police do eventually find an individual with this person's name so zany the nanny is
real but she didn't know who Casey Anthony was or Kaylee Anthony never heard of him and there is no connection
it just so happens that they found somebody with that name it also just so happens that Casey Anthony also picked a
pretty you know common name and she might have knew about this person somehow beforehand well and I think they
were a they were further able to confirm that this this real zenid that they found never in fact worked as a
babysitter or an ananny in any capacity at all right right right so let's just get that off the table so after agreeing
to an attorney fee of $5,000 Jose bayas becomes Casey Anthony's attorney on July
17 2008 now it's on July 22nd that Casey Anthony had her bond hearing the judge ruled that because Casey was now a
suspect in the Disappeared case that they would be setting a bond much higher than usual and they end up setting the
bond at $500,000 damn after this Bond heing Casey told Jose that she has something
very important to tell him Casey said that she was in her cell when an inmate came by and with her hands she signaled
to Casey five and then five the inmate was staring at Casey and her lips with her lips she mouthed the words timer 55
Casey explained that what this actually had meant was what had actually happened
to Kaylee stating the following that Casey wait you sure she wasn't trying to say primer 55 uh according to according
to Jose bz it's timer 55 okay timer 55 and we'll let Casey Anthony explain what that means I can't trust the damn thing
she says go ahead she says that that that her and Kaylee were with zenida at Blanchard Park
zenida took Kaylee and put her in her car in Zena's car when Casey asked what the woman was doing zenida grabbed Casey
and with a very hostile tone had told her that she was not a good mother and that she didn't know how lucky she was
MH and that she was going to teach Casey a lesson zenid jumped in her car and as
she was pulling away she said that she would make contact with Casey giving her further
instructions Casey said that zenid contacted her and told Casey to change all of her passwords to timer 55 on her
computer okay an interesting thing here though Captain is that investigators did
find that Casey's Myspace and Facebook passwords were both in fact timer 55 Casey said if you count 55 days from
June 16th the date that Kay was last seen even though she claimed it was the 9th mhm okay you get August 9th August
9th is ky's birthday uh stating this is exactly 55 days and is it if if you do that you know what I didn't I as I'm
reading this I didn't look it up but this is this is Jose B's story that he that that as told to him by Casey
Anthony um do you want to look it up real quick we could yeah hold on so it's Tech technically 54 but if you count the
16th you know then then we do get to that 55 days timer 55 that's that's odd and yeah I actually dove into this case
a bunch and I actually haven't heard about this yet so well so exactly 55 days from the day that she took the girl
until the girl's birthday on August 9th and zenid states that she's going to give Casey instructions to go to
different places around Orlando to get k back on her birthday uh she says that zenid would post the places and
instructions on Casey's mypace and Facebook accounts and then erase them shortly after so there would be no trace
of this and that zenid could easily do this because she in fact had the passwords to those accounts MH um this
is when Jose Bas says that he realized that there was something very off about his client uh he said that this
in his conclusion either that Casey is an extremely bad liar or she's completely nuts I mean to tell him such
stories after he's already told her stop talking to me about zenid we we we don't
believe she exists you need to come up with a you know you need to come up with a different story you need to help us
find your daughter to get you out of this trouble and then she comes up with this elaborate timer 55 story mhm uh
well it sounds like uh you're a little nuto well not right exactly because not only is this an elaborate lie but then
on top of that to believe that zy the nanny has the power to to get an inmate to you know to te tell you about this to
remind you about timer 55 as you're sitting in jail she's probably talking about primer 55 well around this same
time um Cindy Casey's mother had requested a private meeting with Jose Bas and Cindy said that she had
something very very important that she wanted to tell bz M and she was telling him this because she needed Bas to relay
this information to Casey Cindy told Bas that she had received a letter from a man in Maryland who was planning to
plant a rose bush in the Anthony's backyard for kayle's birthday and that Cindy needed Casey to tell them the
exact spot where to plant the bush as a memorial to the little girl uh Bas said that he felt that this was a little
strange as well but he he took the message to Casey anyway and Casey offered no information as to where to
plant the bush basically stating you can plant it wherever you want I don't know
what she's talking about well it's just weird because it seems like it's all code you know like we're going to have
this rose bush planted almost like tell me uh I'm going to try to give this code
to my daughter hey tell me where to plant this bush in my yard thinking that maybe case will get the hint of did you
bury your daughter in our backyard yeah or did she die in a certain spot in the yard um right yeah it's almost like a
fishing Expedition where you know does did the mother come and I I want to be clear here about this this story with
Cindy um the only person that I've heard tell this story is Jose Bas so you know
there's no way to confirm that this actually took place MH I don't I don't see a reason why he might lie about it
um kind of a weird story to lie about yeah but but the thing that we're seeing here there's a lot of weird lies already
yeah yeah this this this whole thing is a bundle of Lies uh well remember Captain we talked about the $500,000
Bond um to get Casey Anthony out of jail well nobody change nobody in the Anthony
family had the funds to post the bond for Casey um but nonetheless someone did come forward um uh and bayz wanted Casey
out of jail not only so she could be with her family and assist with her defense but also that she could possibly
help find Kaylee in the process search yeah yeah so August 21st 2008 uh we have a new character enters the story we have
Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla and he pays not Dog the Bounty Hunter no he pays Casey Anthony's $500,000 bail now
Leonard Padilla was a bounty hunter with a show on National Geographic Channel um
his goal was to become more successful and more popular than Dog the Bounty Hunter had had a hit show um and Leonard
paid the bail I think all you have to do is uh start making a bunch of racist remarks and you'll become more popular
than dog or more hated right yeah so he Leonard pays this bail and I'm guessing this is OB an obvious effort to promote
his show his name and his firm um you know that's a lot of money he did make an agreement with the defense that his
company would be able to be in the Anthony home watching over Casey that's just creepy well Casey was well they got
to watch over their investment right yeah I understand and Casey was fitted with an electronic tracking device uh
but Leonard's firm believed that Casey could be a suicide risk the security officers that watched over Casey have of
course gone on to give their interviews about their experiences and they have said that very quickly after they became
involved they knew they would not have to worry about suicide they could quickly tell that Casey cared far too
much about herself and that she would never commit suicide they have also said that that another eye-opening moment for
them was when they first got her home you know she's been in she's been in jail jail for quite some time and the
first thing like 30 some days the if you want to hit Paul's we can count the calendar um we're not counting any more
days but she's been in jail for quite some time and at this point they they bring her home and the first thing that
she said when she arrived at home was what's for dinner prison food sucks um you know nothing to do with her missing
daughter uh you know now we have a three-year-old daughter that is still missing
and would have celebrated her third birthday less than 2 weeks ago before this discussion about dinner took place
while Casey was locked up uh you know not what's going on with the searches not what's going on with the case just
what's for dinner right uh one of the male beef beef is what's what's for dinner one of the male officers had said
that he believed that Casey was often flirting with him he believes that she was someone that that might use her
sexuality to manipulate situations yeah think um but anyway when when she is released Bas drives her home in his SUV
accompanied by the security vehicles from Leonard's firm as they get closer to the Anthony home they start to see
the protesters signs you know signs saying things like baby killer and burn in hell [ __ ] and lock her up uh amongst
a whole Army of other things right and look we should be pretty clear about this because what happens in Florida is
is that anytime that there's information that is known to the police department I
believe that they have to disclose that well that's that Sunshine Law I believe it's called where the Freedom of
Information uh Sunshine Law that they have down there where it's almost everything is public record at some
point and not only that but this this story's been on the news and amongst most of the public she's probably
already been convicted because she's not behaving the way that you think that mother should well at this point people
are probably hopeful that they find their you know her child that they find Kaylee the problem is is that from the
get-go your kid's been missing for 31 days and you didn't tell anybody mhm uh what's what's up with that right you
know right you you you are a piece of [ __ ] well and I think that when she was released that this is when this thing
really turned into a circus I mean it was already a media frenzy from very early on but this thing got crazy I mean
protesters basically setting up shop in front of the Anthony house pounding you can see them pounding on the door
getting into fights with George there's one part where Cindy she's out front waving around a hammer like yeah she's
just screaming like she's too legit Too Legit to Quit y hey but she's waving it around almost like she has the intention
of of hitting somebody with it yeah cuz she's she's a I mean look the the Apple doesn't fall fall too far from the tree
here mhm and that's all I'm going to say about that well this this release from jail didn't last very long because just
8 Days Later the sheriff's department arrest Casey again this time it's for writing bad checks remember when Casey
and Kaye went to live with her former boyfriend and his friend Amy M well Casey had stolen some of Amy's she stole
Amy's check book and wrote four checks right uh this this is during the time that the state starts well so let's look
look let's dive into this for a little bit cuz one the initial claims that the mother said hey he stole my car uh she
didn't steal your car okay you the car was registered in your name and and your daughter had access to that car right
and you gave her access to that car I would argue she was the primary user of that car that like I said you could
basically call it car with the exception of it having you know a different name on the title right
that that car was not stolen but if there's money being taken from the grandpa if there's money being taken
from your account taken from your purse taken from your house if if she's stealing uh you know you know going over
and you know the gas can for the lawn mower if she's taken that and putting that into her car MH you know this is
all parts of being a theft and when you have no job for 2 years you got to come up with money somehow you have to come
up with money somehow especially because the people you are living with believe you to be working this entire time right
mhm they see this woman get up every day and leave with her daughter and supposedly go off to work dropping the
kid off somewhere I mean that's that's one hell of a marathon lie right that's not just like a that's not just a little
white lie that you just got to get through the day with this is something you get up and you repeat day after day
after day for for damn near two years all right so you know no more beef for dinner they lock her ass back up yeah
for the checks so she picked up for these these fraudulent checks and it's at this time that the state starts
talking about working out a possible deal with Casey Anthony that they might be willing to throw out some of these
lesser charges that Casey is facing and trade for the location and or confession
regarding her daughter Kaye right of course this deal is refused um on September 5th well didn't you hear the
timer 55 you know story mhm you didn't buy that you didn't you didn't think that was you know reality on September
5th Casey's parents post bond for her um I don't know how much of the bond they actually came up with sometimes these
things they can work out deals if your house is worth a certain amount of money so forth and so on you have a certain
amount of assets um but they basically get their daughter out of jail and again she is fitted with a tracking device and
and released one more time right it's on September 15th that Casey turns herself
in this time it's because of new fraud charges and false identification and petty theft yeah she spends one night in
jail and then she's released the next day because she's she's only being held overnight on these new charges which are
all pretty small misdemeanor charges um but she at least admits to those I I don't know that she admitted to them but
it was something they could only hold her for a night on those Char well but she turned herself in she turned herself
in somewhat admitting to this I think I think you're exactly right there Captain so she spends the night in jail
she's released the next day and then on October 14th Casey Anthony is indicted by a grand jury and she is looking at
first-degree murder charges child abuse manslaughter and giving law enforcement false information okay okay uh how does
this make any sense though how can you charge somebody with manslaughter when there is no body well
I don't understand the whole legality of the situation but from what I what I believe is that when a grand jury meets
and they decide that there's reason or cause to believe that a murder occurred there's a separate investigation go and
believe they detain that's being investigated for that I don't want to be emailed by every lawyer in in America
that's that's my understanding these are the facts though she was arrested right
okay so so we have this little hobbit person right Casey Anthony and she's lying to everybody MH and she's making
up people right and then she makes up this timer 55 story which you got to believe is real it it makes so much
sense yeah so and then you man that we that the planning of the rose bush is so strange
yeah and and we'll kind of get into this I don't do you want to get into the the
conversations with them at the police stations and in jail cuz one of the things that's like I said with the
Florida the Sunshine Law or whatever it is kind of this transparency thing when she's in jail she's being you know
visited by her mother and her father and also visited by her brother mhm and they're and these tapes are recorded you
can actually watch them in their entirety they actually give the inmate almost an hour to have conversations
with these individuals and I don't think that there is like a set amount where like if your lawyer shows up you can
talk to them for an hour if your parents show up you can talk to them for an hour
right uh and all these tapes are released you know so if her parents met with her let's say on a Friday some of
these tapes were being released to the media Outlets by Monday morning it was not taking that long for them to be
released that's why when you said you know there is no body found there is no you know as far as we know Kaylee is
still missing at this point right but because of all these weird interactions and the way she is acting on these tap
the public immediately starts going this troll did it mhm right well I I tell you
what I've seen the tapes at length and I've seen the cut versions that they show on TV M um I would throw a little
warning out there to to everybody listening that the cut versions look she doesn't look she doesn't make herself
look good in the long version or the cut version she's not good with makeup and I
would I would say though captain that I believe that some of the the TV stations
may have made her look even worse um they did they did cut things um and they slightly manipulated uh some of the
interactions especially with the parents I didn't notice it so much with the brother and her but more so with her and
her parents uh where they would kind of clip they would you might have a very lengthy question and she might give a
very lengthy answer and instead when you see it on TV you're going to get the the
the clipped version of that question with the with the most worst part of her answer uh right and odd actions are
lying like look at this point of covering this case yeah very odd actions you know she's lying we know that but
that doesn't mean that you're a murderer and that also doesn't mean that you're murderer of your daughter MH but there's
some very intera weird interactions and like I said about the rose bush thing is
so fascinating to me is if you watch the clip her brother Lee I believe his name
is Lee Anthony yeah so you got Lee Anthony and Casey Anthony talking um and she's just always so bubbly in these
these jailhouse interviews um or Communications she's bubbly in most of them but she's also hysterical in some
of them wouldn't you agree I mean not yeah but hysterical is probably not the right word because I think hysterical
iate right iate would be the more correct word I think because if you think hysterical my baby is missing I'm
crying I'm hysterical no she doesn't ask about her child it I don't think she ever brings up her child first it's
always the other individual whether she's talking to the parents or she's talking to the brother and they bring up
the child MH now look that's that's odd and if you watch the stuff that Lee Anthony talks about it's very strange to
me because uh and I I think I text you this when I was watching saying hey if I'm if I'm ever in jail and you come to
talk to me right mhm don't ever talk to me like this ever because he goes through this whole laundry list of by
the way our conversation will be recorded oh by the way if you want to communicate with us through letters this
is how you have to do it right this is the chain of command if you just give it to your lawyer your lawyer might read it
you have to give it to this person and if you give it to anybody else that letter can be read mhm so uh very
strange and then she is also you know making some friendships with some inmates while she's in jail right right
well you know what you you made me wonder about something here you know we talked about the road the rose bush
right and that was a a um a story that came from Jose bayz that that he is told that he is to deliver this message from
directly from a one-on-one conversation with Cindy to Casey and then hopefully get some kind of answer that he's going
to bring back to her and in another private conversation give her the answer and you're right it it's very cryptic
and but but does that make you it makes me wonder what's going on here is this is this Cindy trying to figure out if
her daughter did it yeah or or is it Cindy trying to assist her daughter in in in her in
her in innocence or or Proclaim her to be innocent by possibly moving something right like tell me where the body's
buried I'll I will dig it up and I I will I'll put it somewhere else and if they don't ever find this it's going to
be a lot harder for them to prosecute you right that's what it feels like to me I think you're right when we sat down
here today it felt more to me like Cindy was trying to figure out if her daughter
was guilty she's been on the fence about this and she needs some answers and even
if it's even no matter how she has to go about getting it she's willing to do so
but as we sit here and discuss it I think you're right I think I think maybe she was looking to help or move or
something yeah but if you watch the interaction between uh George uh Cindy and Casey it's very odd because there's
multiple times where the mother you know is looking at Casey and saying hey uh look at me look at me in the eyes yeah
now what the mother wasn't understanding was I to look at a monitor to see you talk and by doing so my eyes go down mhm
so I can't really do that but there's multiple times where it's like okay what what else do you
know what can he give us never mind the fact that you gave law enforcement all types of [ __ ] right
right all I mean you're making up people you know what I mean mhm you know what I'm saying with a full with a full
background story for each person you're like oh yeah yeah this person this uh zany The Nanny oh yeah she's real oh and
Tom old Tom Frank all I can think is like Tom Hanks Big shout out to all the Tom Franks out
there yeah if there's a Tom Frank that listened to this show Cheers meate so what else did you did you find anything
else odd about the interaction between Cindy and K I I think she kept on as much as she was
talking about well first of all let's just the elephant in the room is when she goes well right now our concern has
to be uh Kaye right right and then then the troll says well definitely my I don't I don't
know how she does you're going to try to make a voice I was going to do a voice for the troll but Casey is basically
saying that that I understand yeah IC concern but what about me yeah my life is being taken from me everything's
being taken from me me me me me m uh I know a lot of moms right oh you do that sounded real bad
hey I'm the captain and I know a lot of moms um no it sounds bad but none of my friends would act like that if their kid
was missing oh no they would be hysterical they wouldn't be irate they'd be hysterical they would be crying it'd
be hard to console them they couldn't even lie to you because it' be hard for them to get out anything but tears this
girl is not crying you know everybody else is tearful everybody else is fearful she's not crying well she she
wants to know what's for dinner she's she is crying at times but but the times that she appears to be crying to me is
when she gets angry about something right or or the focus is I either on her or not her if that makes sense you know
what I mean like it's it's almost like a sympathetic cry for herself rather than
for the situation or the situation that her daughter may be in um it and again with the anger when she cries when she's
anger angry it's for herself it's not for she's angered because she can't find her daughter right right when I but I
think some of it too though is when you've told so many lies that when you are telling the truth
or is anybody believing you that that would be a question too and so now she's in jail right and uh she's going to the
grand jury indicted her so she's going to be charged but at the end of the day we don't we still don't have a body
correct we yeah we've not gotten to the body yet there's a lot that we haven't got to with this case you know usually
when we pick these cases Captain sometimes we can sit down and we can determine you know we used to do one
show a week and that was that was a lot of fun um and we would have to cram everything into one episode let's go
back to one show a week and now we've been doing two because we found that with most of these cases uh there's just
so much to cover that we can't get through it in one show uh the problem with I think we found our calling the
problem with this case so far Captain is we've got several items that we didn't get to yet today so tomorrow's show is
just going to be jam-packed yeah this this case is like this crazy onion and that keeps peeling back layers and
there's just so much more to this story and I never really understood why so many people were fascinated I believe my
ex was really interested in this story in 2008 and was always watching uh Nancy Grace and uh I'd always hear all the
time when I was making dinner top mom top mom top mom you would hear the yelling of Nancy Grace yeah a beautiful
sound that's a golden voice she has so anyways um I I never really understood why people were so fascinated about it
but but the the amount that I've dove into this and I know the amount that you have dove into this this is is a very
fascinating case so much more to get to and we'll get back to it tomorrow here is an interview with Casey Anthony's
parents December 9th [Music] 2008 we now welcome George and Cindy Anthony the grandparents of the missing
florid to toddler Kaye Anthony they last saw her in mid June how you holding up we take one day at a time you know
it's it's very hard lot of sleep loss lost a lot of weight um you know just take one day at a time when did you last
see Kaye I last saw her on June 16th the day after Father's Day what happened the
day she went missing um we actually didn't find out until July um so um she'd been missing
how long when you found out um about a month that strange um well not really um my daughter you know had her and um you
know we just we just um assume that Casey and Kaylee were you know off visiting friends George why wouldn't
your daughter call you and say kayle's gone that's really a good question I I know we kept in contact with at least
Cindy did almost every day or every other day little text message here and everything was fine so what do you make
of it me she's your daughter you have to have some yeah why wouldn't she not why
would she tell you not tell you I think she's um I think she was frightened I think um from what we
understand that you know there's been threats to not only kayle's well-being but also to our family's wellbeing by
by the people that have Kaye so you think Kaylee was taken your daughter KN obviously knew she was taken for what
purpose um you know I'm still trying to sort that out you know the the person that originally
has her or had her um we've had three or four different sightings with the same description that Casey
released that they finally released on this person um and the the zened that the
police department Tracked Down was one out of thousands that um Casey said right from
the beginning was not the correct person they just now released within a couple weeks ago the actual description of the
babysitter and we've had three that I'm aware of tips that have come in since June that people described this person
to a tea that had Kaye what does your daughter think George well our daughter thinks that
Kaye needs to be found and she said what does she think happened oh she's already
told us that this zany this babysitter is one that has her who denies it well the one that the like Cindy just said
about the one that the sharff department our local sharff Department had brought
to my daughter's attention it's not her so let's go back to July 15th Cindy here's part of the 911 call that you
made 911 what's your emergency I called a little bit ago the deputy sheriff tell I found out my
granddaughter has been taken she has been missing for a month I told you my daughter was missing for a month I just
found her today but I can't find my granddaughter she just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her
herself there's something wrong I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the
damn car did you suspect your daughter no never in all of this never never I have
not from day one I haven't um you know Casey has been a loving very caring mother and um I could see that first
night um that she was very frightened when the um Sheriff's Department arrived at the house I mean she was devastated
she was on the floor um just beside herself and she has been very emotional since
day one which hasn't been reported um her main focus has been as same as ours has been look has been looking for Kaye
since the very beginning when they arrested her were you shocked George oh absolutely when they took her into
custody the very first time I was just appalled because I wanted them to number one put
an amber alert out for my granddaughter which they never did they never contacted the FBI that I wanted him to
contact I mean I have a little bit of knowledge on some stuff and you would really think that they'd want to have
some uh someone's want to have helped them assist trying to find a beautiful threeyear little old girl and all I was
trying to do was trying to help them and why do you think they wouldn't had their
mind made up they had their mind made up you know they picked out oh zenid Gonzalez they picked out a 38-year-old
woman when Casey told him it was a 24y old woman they picked out someone that had
children right and she told them she had no children you know they from the very
beginning decided how this was going to um take place they made judgment on her within 2 hours of having her in custody
and that's the way it's been they have not assisted us into looking into finding Kaye and we believe she is alive
I get it I want to get to that have they set a trial date um right now January 5th and no death penalty right they
removed they had it and then removed it they removed it you don't realize the whole United States is looking for Kaye
I know that Mom uh we're back Casey Anthony by the way was interviewed by members of the
Orange County Sheriff's Office July 16th his part of that why didn't you call prior to
today I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself myself which obviously I
couldn't and I was scared that something would happen to her if I did notify the
authorities or got the media involved or my parents which I know would have done
the same thing just fear of the unknown fear of the potential of Kaye getting hurt of
not seeing my daughter again why do you think she was arrested in charge George uh because they had to like Cindy
said they their mind made up it was just too easy for them to just close the book
on this and say well we're going to charge you with uh your daughter disappearance and just be done with it
did they ever look at why a mother would kill a daughter I did anyone ever question motive right there is no motive
and they haven't found a motive they even said they haven't found a motive they they told us they thought it was an
accident and she's scared and she's trying to cover it up killed her by accident and then Carri her something
they don't feel there's a motive have they looked for the child we've had five searches done by the sheriff's
department done by um Tim Miller with Texas equa search I know him um and it's come up with nothing there's nothing
that they have found that you know has given them any evidence that Kaye is no longer with us where do you think she is
George oh Kaye she's with hopefully a loving family and is taking good good care of her we got a tip today today
today um at 4:00 today um right now being investigated by thep um in Tennessee someone spotted a girl who
looked like her yes in the grocery store in Tennessee and my investigators already spoken with the Tennessee
authorities and also the tipster and we're just waiting to see if there's any um you know any video in the store you
know we realize if they find kayy this is a a terrible miscarriage of Justice well it's been a terrible miscarriage of
Justice however you you must understand the Authority's Viewpoint here H are with the Dilemma of this woman a nanny
that doesn't Nanny says I didn't do it I wasn't with her she waits a month before
telling I mean they certainly have grounds for suspicion don't you think no they found they looked at one Zen
Gonzalez one Zen they told us that there was only one in our area there was 11 just in Orlando they picked out one
there's Casey told them to check New York or Miami because she had a New York license she told them that they pulled
up Ohio license bottom line is kayle's out there we've had people from June the 20th that have given us sworn statements
that they they have seen Kaylee in Orlando we have sworn statements from July 2nd we have people that are out
there can't sleep at night because they've seen her in July we had people that we met last night that saw her in
California just 2 weeks ago as it it's a how do you how do you fight with someone
or or you know say if they're sitting four feet away from this child and they say that they're positive that this is
Kaye because they've seen her picture for the last 6 months four feet how old would she be now great now let's look uh
let's listen to a bit more of Casey's July 16th interview with authorities or is there anything that you want to
change or divert from what you've already told me no sir um did you cause any injury to your child Kaye no sir did
you hurt Kaye or leave her somewhere and you're worried that if we find that out
that people are going to look at you a wrong way no sir you're telling me that zenid took
your child without your permission and hasn't returned her she's the last person that I've seen with my
daughter let's take a call Winston Salem North Carolina for George and Cindy Anthony hello hello George and Cindy I
am so sorry for um the trouble that your family's been going through I just wanted to ask you Cindy when you first
called the police you said something like it smelled like there was a dead body in the trunk of your daughter's car
and more recently you've said that you believe that it was maybe old pizza and I was just calling wondering why you uh
changed your mind on that um I changed my mind on that I never changed my mind on that what I stated was the car
smelled okay the um I was told by my husband and also by the gentleman at the tow yard that there was
a bag of food that contained pizza and maggots in the car I went down and I I spoke myself with the manager of the toe
company and he told us that that was the cause of the smell in the car I don't know of anybody that has
ever smelt decay of food that's been in a car trunk for 19 days in Florida heat I've opened my refrigerator and made the
comment something died in here following Casey's arrest in July on child neglect
and other charges georgean Cindy visited her in jail here's some of the surveillance video from
that I don't care what I have to do when I told them I would lie I would steal I
would do whatever by any means to get her back that's exactly how I feel it's the
truth Casey we have to find her before her third birthday Mom I know that's coming
up fast uh there were reports photoshots I think of of your daughter partying and
the like and out having a good time during all this while her daughter's missing explain that um there was one
photo out of all the photos that have been showed of her party in that was after June 16th one and what we have
learned that that is a staged photo that those are photos that they used to entice other people to come into
that club that she would have gotten paid for that photo so in fact that she was working and we have proof of that
where uh George is Kay's father uh kayle's father lived uh somewhere in the Carolinas I believed at one point uh
he's deceased he passed away at Brad R around her second birthday oh so she was still around when he died right he was
never part of her life he hasn't been sou Fall South Dakota hello thank you Larry my question is for George um
George removing yourself from your family I know you were a professional uh in the department what was your
professional opinion of the smell in that trunk my professional opinion is I never really realized how long it would
take a garbage to smell for 19 days or 18 days inside of a car in Florida to be honest with you what is what do you do
George right now I'm in the security field you know being in law enforcement for years and I've sort of stayed in the
security field off and on over the years so after moving to we in law enforcement
in Orlando no never was in Orlando no I was in law enforcement 20 some odat years ago so so you would understand law
enforcement psyche to a point yes possibly yes but then again I I know what I feel inside
that that's like Cindy says inside that bag was garbage there really was there was pizza I mean I seen it I mean I I I
know what was in there and there's no way you can fathom Cindy your daughter harming your granddaughter no there's
nobody that has come forward that has ever seen or said anything other than that
Kaye was an excellent mother so there's Casey has done nothing to her daughter there's no evidence that
shows that um and I can with 100% of my being say that I believe that Casey had nothing to do
with Casey kayle's disappearance we have a little more to show you from inside the jail housee
watch what's Your Gut telling you right now my telling me that she's okay okay and your gut tells you that she's close
or some she's she's hiding she's she's not far I know in my heart she's not far I can
feel it oh boy this is um are you optimistic that you're going to find K I mean how
do you feel about it all it's been a long time well over the last um several weeks we've gotten probably our best
sightings um we had one um in the middle of November right in Orlando um two women very credible were
within 10 feet of her watched her for 20 minutes took photographs of her um this
last couple that we met last night that saw her um you know a week after that point we within four feet of her so
she's somewhere you think absolutely why do you think so many people get angry at
you um because they only hear one side of the story they only see what um is put out there by the Nancy Graces of the
world and um the Leonard pillas of the world they don't look at themselves and look at their own families and and
figure out what they would do if one of their children was missing you know there's a very there's a there's a lot
of people that are in our shoes and there's a lot of people that will do one of several things they'll either go into
a reuse and they'll just withdraw you could do that or you could get up every morning and you can f
for the people that you love and we're not going to I'm not going to sit back and worry about what people think about
us cuz my focus is on Kaylee and anybody that wants to criticize me for that that's their problem Nancy Grace
convicted your daughter absolutely Nancy Grace is the reason why there are people
out there but I'll tell you what there's just as many people that watch Nancy Grace that only watch her because they
don't have local media like we do in Orlando keeping up with with Kaylee that's their
only outlet they don't believe in the things that she's doing in fact they tell us that when this is all done when
kayle's home they're never going to watch her again so thank you both very [Music]
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July 15, 2008 - Orlando, Florida- a two year old girl is reported missing. Her grandparents have just tracked down their daughter Casey but their granddaughter Caylee is nowhere to be found. During the course of this evening it is revealed that the little girl has been missing now for 31 days. The mother says she left the baby with the nanny but she won't give her back. Today we review what has often been called the biggest case in America since the OJ Simpson case.

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Brief Summary

Casey Anthony's daughter Kaylee went missing; the investigation reveals lies and family turmoil surrounding the case.

Key points

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Disturbing Discovery. A father checks the trunk of a car and smells something alarming.
The Disappearance of Kaylee Anthony. Cindy Anthony reports her granddaughter missing after 31 days. The tension escalates as police investigate.
Casey's Alibi Unravels. Detectives discover Casey's lies about her employment and the babysitter's existence.
Casey Anthony's Timer 55 Story. Casey claims an inmate signaled her about her missing daughter, leading to a bizarre story.
Cindy's Strange Request. Cindy Anthony asks for help planting a memorial rose bush for her missing granddaughter.

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I have a three-year-old that's been missing for a month!

Urgent call to 911 about a missing child.

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Tension

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