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crime the following is a BTK offender criminal profile this profile was written several
years after btk's first set of murders it reads the attached analysis is only as good as the information that
has been provided in addition it may be necessary to totally change or modify this
analysis if new information is developed such as additional victims more forensic
evidence or more information obtained from research multiple homicides wital Kansas the murders of the offender known
to the public only as the BTK are the result of a fantasy acted out a fantasy where for the first time in his life he
is in a position of dominance he is an inadequate type A nobody who threw his crimes has placed
himself in a position of importance the BTK Strangler is now a somebody who is receiving the
recognition he feels is a long overdue he is not even very original in his crimes he has patterned himself
after other Killers such as the Son of Sam in New York City most of the verbiage used by the
offender in his letters probably comes out of recent Publications in detective magazines the subject is alienated
lonely and withdrawn he would not be expected to have any lasting relationships with
others and would lead a solitary existence dominated by fantasy and magical thinking his killing is an attempt on
his part to find affection and acceptance he fears everyone including himself he would not be expected to have
had any normal relations with women and probably has never had a normal heterosexual relationship with
one when he is not killing he experiences intense feelings that he is not normal and therefore he kills to
cope with this disorder an attempt to escape within his own fantasies thus he can be expected to
kill again and to do so in a compulsive repetition pattern that he has already established
his victims can be either male or female who are both loved and outgoing his victims will be in a
position of vulnerability where he can totally render them helpless his victims represent his own feeling of
helplessness and hopelessness his own life has been disruptive he probably comes from a
background where his family was broken he was raised by an overbearing mother who was inconsistent in her discipline
and his father was absent either because of marital Separation or death this would have occurred when he
was a youth your subject may have been raised by foster parents your subject was an average student in the classroom
however he was more Adept to disrupting the class by using profanity and pranks his language and statements make
us believe that he has some military experience and or is a police buff he probably has had run-ins with the
police in the past such as assault Andor breaking and entering during these break-ins items
taken will be items of insignificance these items would have been taken because of a fetish or to
feed a strong urge to take an article of clothing or an item that he is fond of or the satisfaction of committing a
crime that will leave little evidence to investigators BTK May have a history of
vois activity and he may have an arrest record for these types of offenses he hunts his victims by selecting
neighborhoods where he can peruse different houses without being detected furthermore his victims will
live in an area where if need be he can have an easy Escape Route such as a neighborhood park where he can hide to
elude police his killings are impulsively motivated and without elaborate planning he seeks out targets
of opportunity such individuals of this type suffer from insomnia and thus find it difficult
to Hold Steady employment control of himself and of his environment is essential to such a
person although he is gaining in confidence he is still shy withdrawn and isolated as a counter strategy technique
your department must not make any statements concerning the Killer's mental condition do not allow the media
to label him as some kind of psychotic killer if they have already done so your best
strategy will be to align yourself with the Killer and not the psychiatric experts any press releases should
clearly state that he is a killer who must be apprehended and that he is not a psychotic
animal this approach May reduce the Killer's anxiety and reinforce his own guilt
feelings this removing any psychiatric excuses for his acts and leaving him responsible for his murders extended
periods between his murders may be for reasons when he was absent from the area either as a result of military service
schooling incarceration or mental treatment it is not uncommon for subjects such as yours to frequent
police Hangouts and an attempt to overhear officers discussing the case such offenders may be at the crime
scene observing detectives investigating the case all of this allows the murderer
to fulfill his ego and gain a feeling of Superior ority he may go so far as to telephonically contact your department
and provide details specific to his crimes your advantage in this case is his very strong self-centered attitude
will be his downfall he will provide information to a friend or an acquaintance at a local Tavern
concerning information he knows about the case he may even pretend to be an officer working the case he may carry a
fake badge on his person if so he may use this to gain entry into his victim's homes BTK will continue to kill until he
is caught or [Music] [Music] killed Dennis Raider born in March of 1945 in Pittsburgh Kansas and he would
be the oldest of four children born to William and dorotha Raider Dennis's father who went by Bill was a member of
the US Marine Corps when he retired from the Marines he went to work for the Kansas gas and electricity in
1948 Dennis's mother dorthia was a bookkeeper Dennis had three younger brothers Jeff Paul and Bill the family
moved to witch Kansas when Dennis was young and it was there that he would spend most of his
childhood the Raiders lived in a workingclass neighborhood on North senica Street Dennis's childhood friends
describe his father bill as strict but never cruel Bill's cousin Lee Raider commented that he could not remember a
time when Bill Raiders family had done anything that might attract attention must less cross the law and from all
accounts Dennis was a normal average child yeah and later in life he would describe his father as dis and his
mother well she was the disciplinarian now Dennis tried to be the good kid he was a member of the Boy Scouts and
participated in church youth group activities Dennis attended Riverview Elementary School and his teachers later
stated that Dennis was an average student although some other reports indicate that he got poor
grades kids who grew up with him say that Dennis loved dim store novels and comic books and like most kids he played
cops and robbers until it was dark as he got older people who knew him from his school days report that Dennis exhibited
withdrawn Tendencies he was described to be a quiet and polite young man who preferred to keep to himself he was also
described to be a person that would think before he spoke he would always listen very carefully when spoken to huh
and would give you his full attention what one of Dennis's former friends describe him as utterly lacking in a
sense of humor but tending to be focused in the E the colonel in the eth grade Dennis was chosen to be a crossing
guard he carried a big red stop sign and told classmates and drivers when to go and when not to go but otherwise Dennis
appeared outwardly unremarkable and Blended seamlessly into the background in 1963 Dennis graduated from witch
Heights High School he got a job working at a grocery store but in 196 5 he decided to move away from Witchita to go
to Kansas Wesleyan College Dennis joined a fraternity but he was a poor student and he soon returned to Witchita and
enrolled in a community college by the summer of 1966 at age 21 Dennis had decided to join the US Air Force he did
his basic training and Technical Training in Texas yeah I believe he spent four years in the Air Force yes
and he would achieve the rank of Sergeant at 26 years old Dennis returned to Witchita in 1970 and in May of 71 he
married 23-year-old Paula Deets a bookkeeper Paula had also grown up in Witchita and had gone to the same high
school as Dennis they settled in the Park City area just north of Witchita not far from the home in North Witchita
where Dennis had grown up and didn't Dennis Raider work in the meat department yeah he did this at the IGA
Superstore while attending Butler County Community College there he earned an associate degree in
electronics in 1973 but in 1972 Dennis actually left the IGA Superstore to go work for Witch's largest employer at the
time this is the Coleman company a manufacturer of camping supplies yeah they make the grills yeah amongst a
bazillion other things he worked on an assembly line there building heating and cooling units Dennis left Coleman in
1973 to go work for Cessna a manufacturer of small aircrafts but by late 1973 he was let go and in 1973
Dennis started taking classes at witch State University taking criminal justice classes do we know why he was let go or
was it just like a situation where they laid off a bunch of people uh I I honestly I don't know um he had a he had
a background in electronics and that's what he was in the Air Force for so I'm a little surprised that he would be let
go I don't know if there were major Cuts back then or if if he just couldn't hack
the work you got to keep in mind Dennis Raider while he will present himself throughout the course of his life as
being above average intelligence trying to be superior to the rest of us he is very much a a very average guy in his
intellect so by the end of 1973 Dennis Raider he's married he's unemployed but he's taking some college classes but
Dennis is also hiding a secret mhm so all of these mundane details paint the picture of a completely normal even
somewhat dull life but by his own admission Dennis developed fantasies about bondage control and torture from a
very early age while still in grade school in fact when his mother would spank him remember he said that she was
the disciplinarian when his mother would spank him Dennis would later say that he
felt a mixture of pain and pleasure once he reached puberty Dennis dreamed of tying up girls and having his way with
them Dennis has admitted to torturing and killing cats and dogs when he was young by hanging them in
Barns he also had a fetish for women's underwear he realized that he realized that he could kind of keep his fantasies
and of torture and murder a secret from everyone else and and one way that I think that he helped himself kind of
keep these things quiet to kind of quiet the Beast if you will was by steal steing underwear from undergarments from
women and from girls in the area and he'd walk he put them in his pocket and walk around and sniff them no no but uh
no one in his life ever imagined that this average unremarkable boy was leading a depraved inner life that would
become dramatically more pronounced when he reached adulthood now according to the journals that Dennis kept from his
time at Kansas Wesleyan state in salinaa in 1965 it was during this period that he first started trolling for victims to
act out his fantasies although it appears that he did not have any success in actually carrying anything out at
that time his journals also indicate that it was around this time that Dennis was able to successfully break and enter
into homes and buildings stealing small items of interest to him he found this sort of activity
exhilarating Dennis further ad aded that while in the Air Force he would peep at
women undressing he would stalk women and he would burglarize their houses to steal their underwear while he was in
the Air Force he began to spend time with local sex workers he was trying to get them to play along with his
fantasies his bondage Obsession but he was unsuccessful at getting any of them to play along with this he would later
say that he thought that they feared that he was going to take it too far right I mean this guy that you don't
know is paying you for sex and then he's probably saying um I'll pay you a little
bit extra if you let me tie up they're probably going yeah I'm not not going to let that happen and that's an
interesting thought because I tell you what something that we will learn about Dennis as we go through his life and his
crimes um I'm of the suspicion that maybe he wasn't paying them for sex I don't know that he had the confidence to
have sex with a professional um being so he was just hanging out with them I no I
bet you he was paying them to spend time with them but I don't I think that he lacked the confidence to actually have
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cheers Captain Tuesday January 15th 1975 four in Witchita Kansas as expected this
was a cold day and like most other days 15-year-old Charlie Otero counted down until the final school bell rang 3:00
Charlie collected his things and he made his way outside Charlie was 15 years old
and in the 10th grade it was his duty as the oldest child to gather up his brother and sister and lead the charge
home back to their little white house with black shutters on North Edgemore Street Street the family had only been
in town for a little more than 10 weeks they were still figuring out the logistics of their new life together in
Witchita they still had boxes of household items that were to be unpacked MH Charlie's brother Danny was just a
tad younger at 14 years of age and their sister Carmen June she was 13 now their
home was not terribly far from their school so it was a short walk on a cold day when they arrived at the little
house the door was locked as usual and the family dog lucky was out in the fenced in backyard pacing near the gate
Charlie used his key to unlock the door when they entered the home they noticed the kitchen had been left in a strange
manner it was incredibly hot inside the house Charlie expected to see his father
Joseph their father Joseph was a hardworking man but he had practically been confined to the home after a recent
car accident in the kitchen open food containers were sitting on the countertops and it looked like someone
was making a sandwich Charlie called for his father several times but got no answer the three kids walked the house
looking for their mom dad little brother and sister anyone who may be home Charlie opened the door to the master
bedroom and walked into a horrific scene his mother lay dead on the bed his father lifeless on the floor char called
out to Dany and Carmen June both parents were bound at the feet and wrist one of
the children grabbed a knife from the kitchen and the children cut bindings from their parents this was a hopeless
effort as both had been dead for a couple of hours Charlie ran to the kitchen grabbed the phone receiver
hanging on the wall and called zero for the operator Charlie listened but heard nothing as the phone was dead he would
not be able to call police or medic he shouted for Danny and Carmen to join him as he ran to the neighbor's house
they pounded on the door and luckily their neighbor was home they told him that they found their parents dead in
their parents' room and then they called the police while they waited for police
to arrive the neighbor ventured to the Otoro home to see if he could help in any way he saw what the children had
seen and he knew it was too late mhm the first to arrive on the scene were the medics they arrived just 5 minutes after
the call was placed when they arrived the three Otero teenage children were standing out front waiting for their
arrival the children were begging for the Medics to go inside and help their parents but the EMTs explained that for
now they would have to wait for police to arrive on the scene to clear the house and give them the okay to go in
when the neighbor man was describing to the First Responders what he had saw in the bedroom the Medics began to think
that they might be at the scene of a murder suicide that maybe somehow in a fit of rage Joseph had killed his wife
and then killed himself all right let's get into the investigation a little bit to to get a better understanding of what
may have happened to these two people in that house that day while the children were at school well I just want to point
out something that supposedly it's a murder suicide but we have legs bound and arms bound right well that's where I
think the confusion comes in so and what we will see happen here is the children
when they found their parents the parents were bound at the the hands and feet right remember the children went to
the to the kitchen they got a knife and they cut the bindings from their parents
trying to revive them or save them or something so when The Neighbor goes in to see what had happened all he sees is
Joseph the father dead on the floor the mother dead on the bed and there's a knife lying next to Joseph the father
right right so he tells this to the Medics and the Medics are like crap this is a these these kids just walked in to
the result of a murder suicide of their parents so inside the home captain in that master bedroom the two people that
were found dead were Joseph Otero Jr who is 38 years old and his wife Julie aged
34 the oos have five children three of which we have already introduced the these are the three oldest children and
again they were Charles who was 15 Dany who was 14 and Carmen who was 13 they had walked home from school and found
their parents dead in the home the other two children attended a different school
they were like their older brothers and sisters they walked to and from school as well but they were younger so they
were in elementary school now Charlie the oldest of the children did not want his little sister Josephine who was only
11 and his Little Brother Joseph aged nine to see the swollen stiff bodies of their parents like he had so Charlie
stayed on the scene to help in any way that he could but he sent Dany and Carmen off to intercept the younger
children before they could make it all the way home around this same time a police officer had arrived this is
Officer bua he went into the home and made his way to the master bedroom he stepped in into the room he saw the
bodies of Joseph and Julie he touched their skin to gauge temperature both bodies were cold and stiff as rigger had
set in they had both been dead for a few hours and Joseph's body would be lying on the floor on his back now next to
Joseph was a plastic bag and a knife Julie was barefoot and her body was on the bed she had dried blood around her
mouth and nose she had some bruising around her neck neck as well there was some type of cloth lying next to her now
her feet were still Bound by white cord strips of cord lay next to each of the bodies someone had opened all of the
drawers to the dresser and rummaged through them okay so I want to go over some information provided to the police
by Charlie or the other children and we kind of got into this a little bit before but just to kind of clear it up
so the knife next to Joseph's body was the knife from the kitchen that the children had used to cut the bindings
from around his wrist right so not from the perpetrator so that also explains the cord lying next to Joseph the
plastic bag had been on Joseph's head that was found next to him this was removed by the children as well mhm the
cloth that was lying next to Julie was actually a gag that her daughter had removed when they found her the cord
lying next to her had been tied around her hands so they first thought maybe a murder suicide like we talked about but
be this because of what the neighbor had described however the neighbor had not realized that he was seeing it was an
altered crime scene altered by the children trying to save their parents it's very brave of them to for the
children to try to save their parents yeah so now now the police know that both of the victims had actually
been tied up and left that way when the children had found them then the officer
made his way to another bedroom inside this room to his shock and surprise there was another body this was little
Joseph he was found dead in his room lying on his side next to the bunk bed he and Dany shared that room him and his
older brother in the room with him were a phone book and a chair with a broken leg the chair was from another room and
had been moved into the boy's bedroom why the investigators did not know the boy had been tied around his ankles and
the cord ran from his ankles up behind him and bound his hands together behind his back the boy's hands were swollen to
about three times the size of their normal size the boy's face and head were covered with multiple items a T-shirt
and two plastic bags all hooded the boy's head the officer then set off to search the remainder of the home could
the killer or killer have left something behind could there be some Trace as to who had committed these hor horrible
murders after searching the main level officer Bola ventured to the basement the basement was dark and he could not
find a light switch so he were lied on the light of his flashlight once at the bottom of the stairs he moved the beam
around to see what was in the room he spotted you know normal things items you would expect to find in a basement boots
extra clothing old old toys things like that he noticed an opening there was there was another room down there so
still not having found a light switch he walked slowly toward the doorway using his flashlight to guide his steps once
in the room he first noticed that the room fell and appeared to be smaller than the room he had just been in this
smaller room housed the family's uh washer and dryer their washing machine and their dryer right as officer Bola
backed up and started to Pivot back around to the exit yeah to the stairs right yeah his well his back and
shoulder brushed up against something at this point something with some weight to
it he swung his arm around to reach out to the object but when he hit it with his forearm it gave way and it moved now
this terrified the officer and he started to back up you know shuffling his feet to maintain his balance as he
pulled his other hand around to shine the light on the object that he had just touched that had just moved moved as he
fell back and spotlighted the object he could feel the Color Run from his face as he realized that he was looking at
the dead body of a young almost teenage girl her mouth was gagged her hands tied
behind her back her head and shoulders slumped in a lifeless position a noose was around her neck and she was hanging
just a foot or two of rope from a pipe that had run the length of the ceiling mhm the body swayed from where he had
bumped into it and hit it with his arm the officer had to yeah the officer had to announced to the other officers
responding to the call uh that there were four bodies at 803 North Edgemore Street it's a quadruple
homicide after a little bit of time to confirm the detective's suspicions the officer told the three teenaged Otero
kids that they had walked home from school together that their their parents and their young sister and brother had
all been killed that day before they arrived police scoured the home and yard for Clues detectives and officers set
out on foot to Canvas the area and interview neighbors over the course of the evening they spoke with three
separate individuals that provided them with a similar clue all three of these people had seen the ottero vehicle this
is a Plymouth Station wagon it was being driven by someone other than the oos on
that day one said that he had saw a short possibly Middle Eastern man driving the vehicle one said he saw some
man but not Joe Otero driving and another said I don't know who was driving the vehicle but the vehicle
backed out of the driveway so fast that this eyewitness had to slam on his brakes to avoid crashing into the car
right so we got got three very undetailed accounts yeah um I think I know I know it was a
man right well and the thing is I don't it's one of those situations where you don't know that you're seeing the Otero
car being driven by somebody else you're just seeing a car that matches that description right and then later
realizing some [ __ ] has happened some stuff has gone down now oh I saw a car that looked just like theirs but I
didn't think it was theirs because it was a man that I didn't recognize driving the vehicle now later that night
Captain they ended up finding the uh vehicle at Dylan's grocery store somebody had left it in the parking lot
at Dylan's grocery store and eyewitness later told police that they had seen a man Park the vehicle exit the vehicle
and walk away the man was visibly nervous to the point that he was shaking and they're not the most detailed
accounts but at least we do have eyewitnesses in this investigation yeah and they're all similar one man having
been driving the family's vehicle yeah so for as for more details Captain so Joseph Otoro he served in the Air Force
for 20 years and he had recently retired at the rank of Master Sergeant the OAS had been married for about 16 years
Julie his wife had worked at the Coleman company Plant Joseph had once been a champion boxer now I don't know if this
was while he was in the Air Force or a local thing when he grew up in New York but but he he was a boxer at one point
in his life and Julie and the children studied and practiced Judo so the FBI would later tell investigators that the
fact that we have four members of a family that were all trained Fighters attacked and killed in their home
pointed to two possibilities either they were dealing with multiple offenders or
in what they belied to be the most most likely situation is that they were dealing with a single killer that was
able to gain entry to the home and used a gun to control the four individuals the other issue here is like you said
before the the husband the father he was basically housebound because of a car accident mhm so you know he could have
been in a lot of pain having difficulties moving and stuff so he might not have been able to fight well
and I also think the reason the reason why they believed that we're working with a single offender here is because
they firmly believe that this was a sexually motivated home invasion and murders and the murderer appeared to
have a fascination with bondage strangulation and Suffocation uh and one particular FBI agent believed that the
likelihood that more than one offender would share the same distinct sexual urges and murderous fantasies well he he
believed that to be very unlikely yeah there's some evidence to support this yeah both female victims were found
partially disrobed uh Sean was found present on Josephine and on the floor of the basement um from the appearance of
the kitchen M now it looked like the killer or Killers gained access to the house and surprised the Otero family
while the children were preparing their school lunches before leaving for their school day they were there were food
products out on the counters and table the girl's winter gloves were discovered just outside of the house and police had
a theory on this that they were making their lunches and Joseph told the little girl to take out the trash she goes
outside and is grabbed up by the offender who then took her inside and was able to gain control because he
already had a hostage right so he he used her like hey do what I say I'm going to shoot her yeah and also there
was no sign of a Str struggle anywhere in the house no sign of breaking and entering right and because this was a
family of Fighters again we have the gun is the thought here to gain control the
things that the police found the most alarming was that nothing appeared to have been taken from the home so not a
robbery gone bad as most would think and and secondly the cords and bags and ropes used in the murders didn't come
from inside the home leading to the terrifying thought that the Killer showed up prepared that he intended to
kill the family before he ever entered the home the police theorized about the chair with the broken leg as well the
chair was from another room this was told to them by the children right the police theorized that the killer after
using a gun to gain control of the family tied them up then he killed Joseph the father first to get rid of
the biggest threat to him then he molested and killed the mother the boy who who suffocated due to the plastic
bags the killer placed the chair in the room and their Theory this is just a kind of a wild speculation Theory here
but they wondered if maybe he had held the little girl that he sat with her in the chair forcing her to watch her
brother die and during this struggle maybe the leg to the chair had broke and after the three were dead then he takes
the girl to the basement because it was actually her they wondered if it was actually the little girl that he had
targeted that and that maybe he wanted to spend some time with her now he hung her with a rope over the top of a pipe
in the basement he M some sick [ __ ] man yeah he he masturbated either while she
was being killed or just after i' say sick [ __ ] and then he just dropped that on us well then he collected everything
that he brought to the home with him he cranked up the thermostat and then left in the family's vehicle now the two
detectives that took the case what I mean cranked up the thermostat I don't know how hot it was in the house but but
the children and police and Medics all described the home to be extremely warm and they believe that the offender
cranked up the thermostat to maybe speed up the the decomposition process okay that maybe they would decompose a little
faster if it was 90 95 or I don't know how hot it was in the home yeah but the two detectives that took the case
Captain I found this to be extremely interesting and dedicated on their part they had a suspicion even though they
thought it might be a small chance they thought that there was a small chance that the killer might return to the
scene of the murders so the two detectives that caught the case they actually spent several nights staying
overnight at the murder house uh-huh so going on with some more police thoughts here you imagine that that
that'd be us would' be on the case Chief would say hey you two Knuckleheads you guys like to talk to each other you guys
are going to stay in the the house just wait till he comes back yeah well and I I want to point out a few things as this
is going on you got to understand the confusion here amongst just the officers involved in the investigation because
this is not a crime that they're used to see okay this is not a crime that anybody is
used to seeing where a whole family well most of a family is wiped out in the of
a morning or afternoon yeah and you have little to no evidence Left Behind the thing here though too is Captain when
you have a situation like this you know in Witchita at the time you know it was a big city yes but they didn't have a
high murder rate and the murders that they had they typically solved them fairly quickly back then because usually
they were committed by somebody if if family member was killed good chance it was killed by another family member
right um you know people on the inner circle were killing committing these types of crimes they were solved very
quickly this situation we have we have where police are not fully understanding what they are seeing they're not fully
understanding the crime that took place that day and so therefore you have officers and investigators that are not
going to share the same theories about what took place that day yeah because it's not just
it's not just a murder we have a rape well not rape okay so it's not actual rape because there there was no
penetration right right okay okay so so sexual assault correct and he's basically masturbating to the torture
that's going on um you know these sick [ __ ] these wouldn't have been fast deaths you know they weren't it's not
like putting a gun to somebody's head and pulling the trigger these this type of death this type of killing takes some
time and he jerked off to it right he he enjoyed witnessing it whether it was during or
after and that's why when we spoke earlier about Dennis Raider spending time with sex
workers now he has said that he had sex with these sex workers I actually question if he would have been able to
physically because when we see his crimes he doesn't show that he has that he's capable of that that there's
something in his makeup that does not allow him to do that now we talked about the police and investigators capable of
jerking off right but that's mentally that's much different than um than actual intercourse MH so we talked about some
of the different police and investigator theories and thoughts as to motive um there were three popular ones at the
time of the early investigation and one was that this could be some type of Revenge killing that somebody went out
to kill one member of the family or Wipe Out the entire family for some purposes
of Revenge MH the other Theory as to motive number two was the family had recently moved from Panama and Joseph
was a pilot so were there there were some people that wondered could this be something that is tied to the drug trade
or some type of gang hit was Joseph Joseph involved in anything moving drugs uh things of that nature and somebody
had sought him out to put an end to him and the other three were just collateral
damage the third Theory and this is probably the most terrifying one when you think about the community is that
Mrs ooto and the little girl were were actually targeted by the Killer and the killer was surprised to find the father
at home that day MH and there's some there's some thoughts to support this Theory and that being that there were no
cars in the driveway when the killer had entered the home and remember Joseph was
only home because just a couple of weeks earlier he had been in a car accident so
the car that that he drove was in the shop because it was being fixed and Joseph was off of work nursing some
injuries right so I'm assuming there was a way that you know the killer would have been able to see into the garage to
see if there was cars in the garage well their their vehicle was home the one that the Otero mother typically drove
right um but the other one was gone correct and so even if the killer had been watching the house if he wasn't
watching the home cons you know consecutive days right he might not have any clue that Joseph would have been in
the home you know there was no evidence to support or to suggest to him that Joseph was there right so the police had
like we said little to no leads the case was going to go cold very quickly this was until October of that
same year till October of 1974 this is when police picked up a man for molesting a little girl behind the
public library this man his name is Gary Sebring now this is a man with a lengthy criminal
record that included beastiality uh that he had committed in the local park there now so he's picked
up for possibly molesting this little girl behind the library now during the interrogation regarding that attack on
the little girl he started talking about the ooto murders and saying some weird stuff he said you know had had he done
the ooto murders he would have committed them with his brother Ernest and their friend Thomas Meyer would have helped
them commit this crime so it' be three people yeah so and he would have raped their cat well all three of these men
had a record of sex offenses uh the brother Ernest was brought in for questioning MH police were looking for
Thomas Meers now it took some time for them to find this Thomas Myers character he was eventually located after he tried
to take his own life now all three men were found to be mentally unstable and they were all taken to a mental hospital
for observation they remained there for quite some time but none of the three would be charged with the quadruple
homicides yeah anybody that's raping an animal is obviously not mentally stable well yeah you touched on some on
something there captain that the the FBI would say as well that they found that the these three
individuals they didn't find any of them capable of getting away with these murders that it would have gotten out of
hand the the crime scene would have looked much differently it just didn't make any sense to them now they're not
just the police are not just going to go off of the FBI's thoughts and theories on this there was also no evidence to
suggest that they had had anything to do with these they one of them probably read about it in the newspaper or
overheard people talking about it this was a very very famous crime when this took place in 1974 witch had not
witnessed or experienced something of this level before like I said none of them would be charged in the quadruple
homicide but there was plenty of news coverage regarding the arrest of these three men uhhuh and the real killer was
watching and reading it all and the thought that someone else may take credit for his hard work was making him
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January 1974 - Wichita, Kansas - After years of fantasizing a killer emerges from the shadows and announces himself to the world. A dark haired man slipped into the home of the Otero's one morning as the children prepared for school. He murdered all four people inside the home. Later that same year he would attack and kill again before vanishing into hibernation. After many requests we have decided to take an in depth look into the dark, disturbing life and mind of Dennis Rader. Driven by what he called Factor X, Dennis was better known as the BTK. Beer of the Week - Demon Dweller by Green Man BreweryGarage Grade - 3 and 3 quarter bottle caps out of 5

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Brief Summary

The episode details the BTK killer's profile and the Otero family murders in Wichita, Kansas, exploring the investigation and psychological aspects of the case.

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The Hidden Life of Dennis Raider. Dennis Raider, the BTK killer, led a seemingly normal life while harboring dark fantasies.
Children Discover Tragedy. Three Otero children find their parents dead and struggle to call for help.
Murder-Suicide Theory. Initial thoughts of a murder-suicide arise as the scene unfolds.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

He kills to cope with this disorder.

Explaining the psychological motivations of the BTK killer.

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