Amy Baker /// Part 2 /// 620 | Forensic Files

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[Music] unfortunately Amy Baker is no longer with us and 33 years ago someone took
her life after she ran into car trouble on the side of Interstate 95 way back in
1989. now police have been up front and investigators have been up front with the public here captain and telling us
here is what happened and the reason why they are telling us in this case and which is a little bizarre because we've
seen in other cases where they tell us nothing about what they know that happened and still ask us for our help
us being the public the older we're going to keep the information close to the vest statement in this case they're
saying here is what happened public now please help us out and you'll see why they are desperate for information from
the public based off of the evidence what the evidence suggests to them in this case so police have said repeatedly
in the case of Amy Baker that what happened that night was that Amy ran out of gas she decided to leave
her vehicle she walked started walking toward the this gas station that was nearby and someone unknown to her
abducted raped and murdered her along her way along the way to getting help for her vehicle we have several reports
that will back up this statement from the local law enforcement the first being from the Richmond Times Dispatch
that says quote the night of March 29 1989 Amy Elizabeth Baker was driving South on Interstate 95
when her 1970 Volkswagen broke down forcing her to pull onto the shoulder just south of State Route 617 617 exit
in Fairfax police believe the 18-year-old Stafford woman was walking up the exit ramp
and had nearly reached the top about 9 15 PM when she was confronted by her assailant she was then forcibly taken
into the nearby Woods sexually assaulted and strangled this again all according to the police another report that backs
this up comes from the Washington examiner that reports on May 29 1989 Baker was driving South on Interstate 95
when her car stalled out around 9 00 PM the 18 year old left her blue 1970 Volkswagen Beetle on the shoulder and
started walking toward an Exxon station on nearby Blacklick Road police believe someone accosted Baker at the top of the
exit ramp and forced her into the woods now note that this time frame right the 9 pm sighting makes a lot of sense the
police spotted the beetle after 10 pm with the hazard lights on but Amy left her aunt's house around 8 20. the
distance between Falls Church in Newington is about 20 miles it should have taken Amy maybe 30 minutes even
with some traffic to get where her car was found it seems that if Amy was seen this is all key to this case we have an
eyewitness now it seems that if Amy was seen around nine the timing lines up nearly
perfectly yeah and in so many cases that we've covered the timelines don't line up so it also means that her car was
there for we could say quite a while before it was spotted by the trooper around 10 and and
the original report says just after 10 p.m we had a press release that was issued in 2010. note the years
right this case takes place in 1989. we have the the police actively asking the public for help in this case
we yesterday we cited a 2005 request from law enforcement to the public asking for whoever called Crime Stoppers
on April 3rd 1989 with some information please call us back we are still looking
for you we want to talk to you we believe you know something that is of great importance to this case and to
this investigation that's 2005. this press release is 2010. so what should be of no and should be a kudos to the
police and in the investigators in this case is that they have actively been working this case all of these years
later so this press release that was issued in 2010 says it's titled 1989 homicide of Amy Baker
and this is now the Cold Case investigation that is happening in her case and the
Fairfax County crime solvers had this news release from the Cold Case investigation in
2010. it says crime solvers seeking information on Cold Case homicide Fairfax County crime solvers is seeking
is still seeking The public's assistance identifying the person responsible for a
homicide that occurred 21 years ago about 9 pm on Wednesday March 29 1989 18 year old Amy Baker was driving
Southbound on Interstate 95 near Blacklick Road when her car experienced difficulties
Amy abandoned her blue 1970 Volkswagen Bug and walked up the exit ramp onto Blacklick Road toward the Exxon gas
station I believe it's called back lick Road and not Black Lick Road detectives believe that her attacker confronted her
and forced her into the woods near the top of the exit ramp where she was sexually assaulted and strangled her
body which was found two days later was partially buried in some leaves detectives continue to investigate her
death and would like to speak with anyone who may have been in the area at the time of the attack or who may have
knowledge of the incident in addition to the one thousand dollar cash reward offered by crime solvers a 26 thousand
dollar private reward is also being offered for information which leads to an arrest and indictment in this case
anyone with information is asked to contact crime solvers by phone at 1 1-866-411 tips which is 8477 you could
also email at www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org or text tip 187 tip187 plus your message to
crimes274-637 as always callers never have to give their names or appear in court well a couple things that I find
difficult in this one is that nobody no eyewitnesses that we know of saw another vehicle
but because this is so close to an exit ramp I also I often wonder with this case did the perpetrator
get off the exit park somewhere and then walk back on foot that way they could make they could
commit the crime they could commit the rape the murder and then walk back to their vehicle I would like a better
description of what the officer who spotted these vehicles remember the vehicles that they were asking the
public to call about so a couple things here what this tells me is those even though those are pretty
vague descriptions either that information didn't reach those drivers and they don't know to
reach out to police or one of those drivers does not want police knowing that they were in the
area that night and so what I'm talking about is that 80s Buick and the um Ford Escort that police were asking for
I want more of a description by law enforcement of why are these vehicles of importance okay they were in the area is
what we're told what does in the area mean were they parked alongside the interstate or was one of them seen on
Blacklick Road or were these just simply vehicles that had happened to pass by uh around the time the other thing
that's difficult though too Captain is the vehicles that are in question that the police are asking about information
for those Vehicles we have to keep in mind were spotted by the state trooper which
would have been after 10 pm her car based off of the timeline that we've gone through and I know it was a little
repetitive for the listeners there but the reason why we went through multiple reports was to confirm what police have
said always has happened in this case right that around 9 00 PM her vehicle was already broken down out of gas
hazards on she's on foot and they have a witness some kind of witness has told them that she was spotted on foot up
near the exit ramp right so she had made it at least a short distance before someone accosted her those are are their
words and so they have reason to believe based off of this eyewitness deciding that she made it pretty close to this
gas station before the abductor happened upon her so again that again this is this is all
very weird stuff because I keep going back to how the vehicle was found and it's found in the unlocked State the the
doors were not locked now that could just be simple it could be something as simple as she intended to lock the doors
but for whatever reason failed to do so because the change in her pocket suggests to me her intention was to call
for help and remember she's only about 20 minutes away from her home my guess here if I had to try to crawl
inside the victim's mind here would be that her intentions were to call home ask Dad or Mom to come and meet her her
or bring her gasoline because there's nobody saying that she had a gas can which which is a little
weird to me too seeing how this is not the first time that she's run into this problem
but it all indicators to me are the is that she made an effort to lock her personal belongings in her vehicle
flashers on and intended to make a phone call and then be back at her vehicle rather quickly and this gas station's
not terribly far from her car so and I want to point that out that's something that I think when we attempt to profile
our victim in our victims movements of that night to me that is very key because I know there's a lot of people
out there out there that are going to say well maybe somebody offered her help and she got into somebody's vehicle
that's certainly a possibility but I would put it at the very low probability based off of two things one if I'm an 18
year old woman and I'm on the side of the road at night and I can see the Exxon station from my
broken down vehicle I ain't getting in nobody's car I'm walking to that gas station and two
we have what police tell us are and I witnessed that saw her walking and saw her up near
that exit ramp right so here here becomes another question though if you're an 18 year old
female and you're walking and you can see the gas station you're not going to get in the car of a
stranger that doesn't mean you wouldn't get in a car if somebody you were familiar with
and I also wonder is where the body was found is that the crime scene because if she did get into a vehicle
it's very likely that the vehicle became the crime scene and they decided to drop her back off
at this point they would have access to her keys and so they could have unlocked the door
they could have been the ones to put on the flashers who knows yeah I mean it's it's difficult to say
exactly what happened here but we do have the statements of police that seem pretty definitive in their statements of
her car broke down ran out of gas she was walking on foot when she was accosted and abducted by somebody
unknown to her and taken into the woods where she was assaulted and killed there
um again we don't know exactly what they're basing all that information off of we do
know that there was a an eyewitness um that saw her walking but for them to repeat that statement to the
public and then ask the public for help time and time again it sounds to me like
they have reason to be very locked in on that situation the other thing too is and and I know I've said this in a in a
previous episode and somebody tried to challenge me on it but I have reviewed hundreds of cases I've never ever recall
and you sometimes you're playing the probability and you're playing the numbers here when you're trying to
profile these things but I've never reviewed a case where somebody has abducted sexually assaulted and killed
and then returned to the area where they were abducted from it's to me I'm not saying it's never ever
happened in the history of mankind what I'm saying is out of the hundreds of cases I've reviewed that it's I've never
come across that once so that being the situation I would put that at uh very very small probability
well obviously technology has changed since 1989 but don't you think because of the
sexual assault because of the rape because of the strangulation that we would have some kind of evidence to test
now to get this you know douchebag to get this murderer off the streets well the answer to that is I have two
answers for you yes and no and as as we will see we'll get into it so luckily we
have um some more information that comes by way of the family and this is really
important information to me here Captain because it's coming from Mary who is Amy Baker's Aunt who was with
Amy Baker's mother Sue Mary's the one that that first finds the body and she posted on a Fairfax message
board about the case and I'm going to just read part of her post for the listeners because it was rather lengthy
but here's the important stuff is is as the colonel sees it so it says quote thank you for your concern and
compassion about Amy her car broke down at 9 30 at night and it was dark outside
at the time it is believed she was walking to the gas station to call someone for help but never made it that
far before being abducted I had parked my car at the gas station the morning we started searching for her and you
couldn't see the spot where we found her from there however since she broke down on
Interstate 95 I still find it hard to believe with all of the traffic at that exit that no one saw her with anyone
we know she made it part way to the station before being abducted and Newington is always a busy interchange
Blacklick which is the other Road did go across 95 at the time remember we had said that that area has changed a little
bit and we believe she was heading for the gas station on Blacklick near the top of
the ramp the only businesses around that area at that time were the Newington motel and the Exxon station
no the ramp was not icy that night in fact it was very warm for a March night almost like spring we do know she made
it to the top of the ramp and everyone was checked out that worked close to that area that night she never made it
to the Exxon station if she had she would have made a phone call for help and a call was never made
she had relatives that drove tow trucks that's very important and she would have
called them not the first time she had broken down but in a different car she knew who to call
and then it said and then just some items from my notes here remember the change was found in the pocket of Amy
shorts we know this based off of the police reports and we know that her wallet was found in her vehicle
so her aunt is pointing out that the most likely spot or I'm sorry what her aunt is pointing
out is likely spot on Amy intended to use the pay phone at that Exxon station to call for help
yeah the problem with some of these cases again is technology because at this point you know
today if somebody makes a call well one they could have a cell phone so they could call you at the side of the road
but let's say she made it to the gas station and made some phone calls I'm sure there was not everybody in her
family that she could have called pulled their phone records to see if she called
but because of the change because nobody is is admitting that they heard from her
it's probably more likely like you said what they believe that she never made it
to the gas station she never was able to make a call again I'm putting a lot of weight in the the investigator
statements to the public they're not going to try to mislead us and then ask us for our help we you know as stated
one we don't have anybody saying that they spoke to to Amy via phone that night and you're
right Captain we I'm sure that not everyone that's related to her or um who she may have attempted to call
that the phone records were in fact checked or confirmed that she didn't call them but we also have the statement
that everybody that worked in the area at that time has been interviewed by police so what I'm getting at is we have
zero eyewitnesses that put her at the Payphone zero eyewitnesses that put her at or inside the Exxon gas station this
is a congested area high traffic area and I also imagine we don't have a ton of people that she's going to call it's
not a list of 30 people it sounds like she would have called her home or she would have called one of these
relatives that owned a tow truck I'm look I I know that we live in a different world today than we did in 89
and nobody can remember anybody's phone number because we don't have to these days but I I still can't imagine an 18
year old woman knowing that the tow truck relative's phone number by heart I she's calling
Mom and Dad and we have we have from the from the family statement that they were home that whole night
so I again I'm just gonna have to go off of the police statements to the public base and based off of what we do know
and what is pointed out that that has never been brought to to light that to believe otherwise that
that she never made it to that Exxon station well it's so frustrating because one
the cops show up they find the vehicle they don't find her if they do a better search they find her right away we're
able to preserve the crime scene a little bit better but on top of that there's a lot of
missing person cases where the the person wrecks on the side of the road but it's kind of a desolate
Road there's not a lot of people on that road she is on a road where it's a I would say a pseudo-busy
exit you have a hotel you have a gas station and especially at that time of night you
have a gas station that is open because this is 89 not every station is going to
be open 24 hours or even into the late night so it's just so frustrating that the
cops didn't find her sooner and so frustrating that there's not an eyewitness coming forward
and telling us more information that somebody chances are somebody saw something and just thought maybe never
followed up on it or maybe never even heard about the crime because they were traveling and passing through the area
or maybe they they knew something but they were afraid but either way it's it's so frustrating
that you'd think in this case there would be some eyewitness that that could really put a nail and find this bastard
and and get this guy off the streets [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] cheers mates
welcome back so much more to get into and so such a frustrating case for the baker family cheers to you Colonel
cheers Captain you're exactly right a frustrating case to the the heartbreaking and frustrating to the
baker family and then frustrating to all involved and look again there were some
mistakes made in our opinions early on in the case a great search was not done of that area and not that I
would expect for a great search of that area to be conducted that night when her
vehicle was found but certainly the next day and certainly given the items that were found in her vehicle I would have
expected there to have been a better search of that area but we can't change that one and two the current day
investigators are not responsible for those mistakes they they are currently Baker's case is very active and again I
I only point that out based off of recent information coming out of law enforcement one and two you
see the consistent and constant effort to ask the public for help we see this as late as 2005 and then again in 2010
and 2011 and even in 2020 so there's been an effort to keep this case in the media and remind people from time to
time that this case exists and that it's still unsolved and then we went through
those multiple reports that were coming out early on in this case because I wanted everyone to understand the
consistencies within those reports again it seems like police are pretty locked in on the
following that Amy pulled over put on her hazards and started walking along the highway up the exit ramp again we
know that a witness saw her walking since we know the timing and that she made it to the top of the exit ramp
that's important the the the the quote that's been made of made it to the top of the exit ramp but here's the thing
her body was found a mere 200 yards from her vehicle so we're sitting here you say frustrating Captain I agree we're
sitting here going what the heck happened this area was not really a pedestrian area at all but it was a
highly trafficked area Amy is walking so did some guy come along in a vehicle and
and grab her and drag her into the woods or you know as you pointed out earlier there's still
a possibility that pulls up in a vehicle and he drags her into the vehicle rapes
and kills her in his vehicle and then but again I go to the idea of why backtrack to the area where the car was
found just to get rid of the body this is right Beyond risky if the killer was in fact in a vehicle did he pull his
vehicle over and chase her into the woods that too is risky right because his vehicle would be sitting there on the
roadside it would have attracted some attention and we do have we do have the statement
from police in 2005 that says police don't believe Amy knew her attacker rather it was believed to have been a
crime of opportunity a stranger on Stranger attack unless the vehicle wasn't a car and it was something like a
motorcycle where he could kind of hide it behind her car right that's what that's what I'm that's
the thing that I can't get around in this case if the perpetrator did have some kind of vehicle motorcycles very
interesting to think about if he did have a vehicle where did he leave the vehicle during
the attack and during the murder again it's difficult too because we talked about this in the Nancy eagleson case
that we covered not too long ago tire tracks would be key but you're not finding the body until two days later we
know that there were would have been other vehicles that could have contaminated that area with tire tracks
tire tracks near the body would be of of a bigger concern than tire tracks near where her car was found
the other thing too we don't know did they dust her car for Prince because we said the possibility that he
could have come back and placed a purse or something in the car right I I think that's the other thing though
too is would she get into a car with somebody she didn't know they say most likely not but it's like
or if she gets up to that exit so now she's inside of the gas gas station she feels a little more safe somebody pulls
up and says hey can I help you no I'm I just ran out of gas and the guy says oh well I have a gas can
and now it changes the whole game okay well I could call somebody and bother somebody and wait
right wait all this time for them to get dressed and come you know come find me and they're going
to have to get a gas can or something or we're gonna have to leave my car on the side of the road you see what I'm
saying so it's like yeah maybe a normal situations Amy wanted to get in to a car
with a stranger or get into a truck or get into a van with a stranger but what if they're offering such a
simple solution oh well I got a gas can we can just go fill that up real quick and put some gas in your car and you'll
be on your way or what if she didn't have a choice what if there's a situation where she's
pulled in or there's a a gun a knife or something that's presented a Threat Level that's presented that she doesn't
believe that she has a choice in the matter yeah it could have been Threat Level Midnight so let's go to 1995. this
is going to be roughly about six years after Amy's murder this is when the Fairfax County's four-member Cold Case
Squad was formed Amy's case was just one of many that the unit is going to be tasked with solving now as of 1998
Fairfax County has 71 unsolved murder cases on the books dating as far back as 1964. Fairfax County Police have a good
solvery they are closing more than 70 percent of the approximately 12 murders that occur in the county annually so a
very good solve rate by Fairfax County there are between 1400 and 1500 officers on the force so a rather large Force
um detective dick Klein inherited the cardboard box full of Amy Baker's murder investigation evidence
this in 1992 after another detective resigned Amy's case still generates phone calls to the County's crime
solvers hotline and two criminal investigators police continue to compare the circumstances of Amy's death with other
seemingly unrelated but similar crimes around the country again they're working off of
they seem to have evidence that they believe this is a stranger on Stranger crime So Good by them to be looking at
similar crimes not just in their County not just in their state but around the country detective clients experience and
the extreme violence of this crime of Amy Baker's murder has led this detective to conclude that whoever
killed Amy baker has a police record believe it or not that's pretty much the end
of what we know for sure about Amy's case except for one thing something you had asked about earlier captain
there is DNA in this case so in 1999 detective Klein told the Times Dispatch that the autopsy on Amy
turned up DNA evidence belonging to the killer detective Klein has had the DNA re-analyzed and run through a state
database of known offenders the work allowed detective Klein to eliminate five names from a list of six suspects
that he compiled so This Cold Case Detective comes up with six suspects after reviewing the evidence after reviewing
the file and working the case for a period of time the DNA evidence that they have that was collected
back in 1989 has eliminated five of those six suspects that this detective had repeat that again
out of the six suspects they had five of them have been eliminated yes detective
Klein after he worked the case he's a Cold Case detective after he had time to to review the evidence review the file
test some things and work the case for a period of time he came up with what he says is six suspects
and he says that the DNA evidence that was collected back then back in 1989 has eliminated five of those persons from
his short list of six suspects well wouldn't that mean they have one left well there's some there's some problems
so when earlier when I gave you the answer of yes and no when it comes to right don't we have something today that
we can test that can lead us to finding this offender well there's a couple problems and this also creates a problem
for the detective's statement that he believes based off of the evidence of the crime that he thinks whoever would
have killed Amy Baker would have a police record so the offender's DNA is not encodis
so what that means is they don't have anybody on file that doesn't mean that this guy never committed another crime
this doesn't mean that he never committed another felony it just means that from the time that they started that
CODIS started collecting DNA offender DNA the DNA that they're looking for in the Amy Baker case is not in the CODIS
database as we just pointed out the DNA collected at the time did not match those five other suspects so let's get
into the weeds a little bit and get into some better detail with this so this is
all based off of information that's coming from Fairfax County Police this says DNA evidence was also
collected at the scene but at the time the technology wasn't at the level that it is today there's no longer enough of
the sample left to conduct additional tests so basically they've used it all up the DNA
evidence that they had they used it all up the only hope now is that a suspect turns up and CODIS at some point or
police discover a suspect who is a match after a one-to-one comparison what I'm pointing out here Captain is that the
biological material that's left there's there's no more biological material left
so we cannot go and do a forensic genealogy right but you know think about this it's investigation
guy commits this crime in 89 maybe commits a similar crime and 90 when he's arrested for that crime he is then put
in prison but they don't take his DNA and then he's let's say murdered later on that year his information his DNA
would would have never been collected and there are so many obviously possibilities of this person being
arrested for another crime and them not getting his DNA that's correct that's that's absolutely correct
and so the other possibility that we have here that we should explore and this is where we need people that
know Amy Baker to come forward this is conversations that should have been had and maybe maybe these conversations took
place and that's why we are where we are today so I think it's probably uh an error on my
part to say that this is offender DNA that this is suspect DNA but we certainly see that they're using it to
eliminate people but I don't know where that DNA came from the the reports are that it was
collected at the scene where her body was found that you know and without getting too
you know I'm not going to get into to Too Much discussion of our victim here because we know that she was attacked
they believed that she was sexually assaulted uh that a rape was committed and then she was murdered that's been
their statement so based off of their statements I would suspect that to be the Killer's DNA it's
the it belongs to the the rapist and the killer who are the same person is there
a chance that we could have a situation where there was a consensual sexual encounter
leading up to her before her car breaks down I'm not saying you know sometime earlier that day
and this is kind of boogered up the investigation right because there's a chance that she
could have been abducted assaulted and killed but it's not in the traditional sexual
slash rape manner that we're thinking of so and I I bring all that messy stuff and disgusting stuff up for good reason
and that is because there is a suspect we we said that has not been cleared through
um sorry and I say that because there is that sixth suspect one who has not been cleared by DNA
so you think that that's pretty easy right but there's also a suspect that the police really like in this case
who has been cleared by the DNA well that's that's pretty interesting so that makes the DNA very confusing here in
this situation right and this this suspect is Melvin Irving shifflett so Melvin Shiflett is a convicted
murderer and he has also sexually assaulted and attempted to murder another victim but
thankfully she smacks him in the head with a bottle damn near knocks him out and she flees the scene and is later
able to testify against him so the sexual assault that he conducted on these two victims one that was
murdered one that he attempted to murder was that he forced the victim to perform
oral sex on him he was unable to perform he's unable to get an erection and yet he murders the
one victim and attempts to murder the other victim and by the way in both cases strangulation
was the method of murder and the method of attempted murder so this is not the kernel just bringing
up a suspect here this is a suspect that is being looked at in this case by the investigators that are working this case
yeah you're not being all willy-nilly or sing-along ding dong so where we see science help in so many cases we can
also see situations where science is confusing stupid science and it's not so helpful right but again
you would think that they would have information about Amy's personal life and details of the events of her
personal life that led up to her car running out of gas before she's because the period of time that goes
down between her running out of gas and the murder some of that's going to be based off of
science off of the coroner's findings at the autopsy and some of that's going to be based off
of eyewitnesses and who are those eyewitnesses the eyewitnesses are her family that know the time that she left their
home to travel home her family that she spoke to on the phone that says I'm leaving I'm on my
way home I'll be there soon and the potential witness that saw her at the top or near the top of the exit
ramp you are going to include all of those in your findings and in your statement
of making a time of death which they have stated occurred within 30 to maybe 60 minutes after she left her vehicle
we should point out a couple of things before we move off of this suspect Melvin Irving schifflett
so while I've seen two I've seen several reports that that make him the sixth suspect or an uncleared suspect again
the the clearing of five with the DNA based off the reports I've seen doesn't clear him in this case right he's one of
the five that the DNA doesn't match but to say that it cleared him is difficult because
it seems like he's remained on their list of suspects based off of his previous crimes
the murder that he committed the attempted murder that he he committed but the DNA
doesn't match up so I I we need to point out all angles here especially when we're talking about a quote unquote
suspect here right so we should note that Melvin Irving shiftlet he did get out of prison one month before Amy was
killed but one local paper this is the freelance star reported that Melvin Irvin schifflett one of the Region's
known Killers now serving time on rape and murder charges was cleared after a comparison with DNA evidence taken from
Amy's body so he he remains a a very confusing suspect in this case and in this on the list of suspects and we
don't have other people being named publicly it's very frustrating and frustrating
probably for law enforcement because so much time has gone by but even more frustrating for Amy Baker's family and
friends and loved ones and to expand on that frustration Captain we have a 2014 article again from the freelance star
that reports Fairfax police this is detective John Farrell who is the Cold Case officer in charge
at at the time of 2014 in charge of Amy's case he acknowledged publicly the frustration a case such as this brings
to the family and to police he would not speak at the time specifically about the
case in particular about the condition or the availability of DNA evidence that was recovered
from our victim we pretty much we got pretty much the same thing when we contacted the Fairfax police Cold
Case unit the the email that we received back was the Amy Baker case is an active case
being investigated by our Cold Case Squad due to the case being active I will not comment on suspect or evidence
status at this time we always welcome the documentaries so that the public knows we have not forgotten the victims
and the potential that someone out there listening will come forward with new information if you saw something say
something or if you've heard something say something this case is solvable this case is very solvable and it's one
captain that there there are some local rumors and such that that we didn't feel
would be appropriate to review here um for reasons that we cannot get into at this time but this is a case that you
may find us revisiting on off the Record at some point as as Clarity comes forward in some of this
information that we are currently sitting on again like the captain says if you if you saw something say
something if you know something that's I think that's the the other thing that we need to point
out here right a lot of time has expired between the time that Amy was killed and
today somebody likely has told somebody something along the way something that they did back in 1989
something that they're not proud of something that they they may even be scared of
uh somebody that's been looking over their shoulder all of this time so if anybody has said anything to you uh over
the years and you know something help this family out please please help this family out help them find some peace
right it's been a long time and Sue Baker and the the wonderful Baker family they deserve to
to have some peace and to get some justice for their daughter who never made it home that night
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Christopher Barry D titled talking with serial killers the most evil people in the world tell their own stories and I
blanked a couple weeks ago when we talked about the Texas monster that is Kenneth McDuff and I blanked because I
should have recommended this book when we covered that case because there's an interview with Kenneth mcduffin here and
I use that for part of the research there's also interviews with several other serial killers this is the most
evil people in their own words so check out that great title again it is talking
with serial killers by Christopher Barry D you can find that book and other titles including podcasts other books
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Amy Baker /// Part 2 /// 620 Part 2 of 2

www.TrueCrimeGarage.com This week we review a cold case out of Virginia. One that sadly sounds familiar. On March 29, 1989 - 18 year old Amy Baker was driving home from a relative’s house. Her blue 1970 Volkswagon Beetle ran out of gas and sputtered to a stop alongside Interstate 95. Amy was traveling southbound on the interstate. Her vehicle was found a short time later by police near Blacklick road. Amy was killed by an unknown individual a short time later. Police asked for the public’s assistance in this case early on and are still seeking the public’s help to this day. If you saw something that night, if you have heard information about the perpetrator or the events of that night, please contact the Fairfax County Police Major Crimes and Cold Case Bureau at 1-703-246-4525.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the unsolved murder of Amy Baker, focusing on the timeline, police investigations, and ongoing public appeals for information.

Key points

Public Appeal for Information. Law enforcement continues to seek help from the public regarding Amy's case.
The Tragic Case of Amy Baker. Amy Baker was abducted and murdered after her car broke down in 1989.
Eyewitness Accounts. Police rely on eyewitness reports to piece together Amy's last moments.
Frustration in the Baker Case. The ongoing investigation into Amy Baker's murder reveals deep frustrations among those involved.
DNA Evidence Complicates Investigation. Detective Klein reveals that DNA evidence has eliminated five suspects but leaves one lingering.
Call for Public Assistance. Authorities urge anyone with information about Amy Baker's case to come forward.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

This is all key to this case.

Discussion about the timeline and eyewitness accounts.

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Tension

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