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That's rock and roll, people. Uh, countdown begins, right? So, Mine Hunter season two. Mhm. A lot going on
in the news. We have this um Epstein character. Did he commit suicide? He's burning in
hell as we speak. It's very strange because one of the things that you keep seeing people bring
up is that the justice system has failed these uh victims, which I, you know, I understand that he
was on suicide watch and then at some point they took him off the suicide watch. They quit watching. They quit
watching and then he supposedly commits suicide. Now you have the president coming out
saying some some crazy conspiracy stuff saying uh is it possible that the Clintons had
uh him him murdered which I don't even know I don't even know how to respond to that. Um, there's
as much evidence that Bill Clinton had a relationship or some kind of friendly relationship with Epstein as much as
Trump had a relationship with Epstein. So, if the Clintons came out and and just said the same thing about Trump,
um, I don't know. I don't know what the response to that would be, you know, like I think the Clintons would want
this guy dead as as much as maybe Trump would want him dead. Um, and there's a statement that Trump made
about the guy saying, "Ah, he's a good guy and he likes his women, but he likes them pretty young." This is like a state
statement he made way back in the day. But there's a video there's some video footage of uh Trump and Epstein at a
party talking and just the way they're talking. It looks like two creepy guys talking about girls at the party.
So interesting. See, I must be missing something cuz I I don't know what the relationship would be with Trump. But I
mean, we know that Clinton was flying around on airplanes with on private jets with Epstein.
the the issue with this Epstein guy is well one of the connections with Trump which is not that big of a
connection but so there was some charges that should have been brought to Epstein
a while ago in Florida and that's what's kind of coming out now is all this weirdness being that I think there was
four individuals and whatever I say in this episode is not facts. These are just the, you know, we're kind of
talking about YouTube rabbit holes and how you can just kind of, you know, you're watching something on YouTube and
and suggest uh one of the things was it was a CNN clip talking about the president, you know, basically calling
out the Clintons saying that he thinks that they might have something to do with this guy's death. I clicked on that
and that led me down this crazy rabbit hole. So that seems irresponsible. That's a pretty
irresponsible uh statement there. But yeah, I I mean I again I don't know. But what are if Trump and and this this guy
had any type of relationship? I I again I I I know that Clinton the the weird thing with Clinton is that there is some
discrepancy on how many private flights they took together. We have the Clinton camp saying that the number is this and
then we have the flight logs that are saying the number is higher. So who knows? I mean, it could be
something as simple as as Bill Clinton or or or the Clinton camp has bad information. Maybe they're
not trying to hide anything. Maybe they're just misremembering. Who who knows? It's it's really tough to say.
It's But but regardless, Epstein is not a guy that anybody wants to have any association with. Um he's he's a he's a
real scumbag. He he probably uh I don't know the details of the whole Florida situation. I do know that there was
there was some penalty for him there at one time. I know that the general consensus seems to be that it was a very
uh a very light punishment for something that was horrific that many people believe he probably should have spent
the rest of his life in prison way back then for that. Uh, what I find interesting about this whole Epstein
situation though, and and again, I'm going into this blind. You you brought it up. I
didn't really know we'd be talking about this, but it seems to me like the the book the a book was recently released
about Epstein and about what he was accused of or believed to be guilty of. And it almost looks to me like the book
is what kind of forced the hand of of law enforcement to come forward and say, "Hey, we got to we got to charge this
guy. We got to pick this guy up for all of these different um different charges." Mhm. And then that led to his
suicide. I I'm really I don't know the name of the book. I don't have any information in front of me, but I'm I'm
curious to uh I'd like to check that out to to learn more about this situation. Yeah. So, a little bit about the
situation in Florida. From what I understand is that there was at least four individuals. So, Epstein being one
of those individuals. They all ended up getting um federal immunity and that's where the
suspicion starts coming in again. Lighter sentence for what they were supposed to do. Uh he was a registered
sex offender in Florida, but then certain probation things. He he wasn't responsible for doing where other people
would be. I think he had to check in twice a year, but they actually had no way of monitoring where this guy was
going again because of when you have money like this. Um, and you have private jets and you can fly wherever
you want. And he has a residency on an island. Um, there it's kind of some people are calling it his private
island. I believe there's other residents there. So, I don't think it was his private
island. But, and then again, going back to the Clintons, I think the one thing that people aren't um putting into the
equation is a lot of these individuals that have private jets will actually rent them out. So, is this a a flight
that Epstein and Clinton are going on together? Oh, I see what you're saying. I'm I'm sure there was some of that, but
there's also there's a lot of connections to Epstein uh in the UK. And um that's one of the things that
during this YouTube rabbit hole starts, you know, these conspiracy theorists start pointing out that he was allowed
to um fly in areas that most people wouldn't and also his plane was allowed to land places that other people
wouldn't. And a lot of these, you know, like military bases and things like that. Again, it's not very clear if
Epstein was even on that flight or if it was just his plane. And again, so if you
have, let's just say, ambassador that's over here that then uses his services to get back there. Is
that why he's allowed to why his plane was allowed to land on some of these bases? And and is there no conspiracy
really at all other than this guy was a super rich guy that had rich connections? Where it becomes
interesting is there's some higher ups obviously here, but there's some higher ups over in the UK,
which there's not a direct line, but some of these people that possibly had connections to Epstein
actually had connections to uh Jimmy Salo or Salvo. Um, the the the weird thing too is if you uh
well, not really a weird thing in light of what we we believe Epste was up to, but
uh there there were many, we should point this out, there were many people along the way that did have some kind of
working relationship with Epstein that dropped him along the way. So you you wonder if if people weren't so blind to
what was going on or may have heard rumors and said, "You know what? I don't want anything to do with this guy." I
know I know as far as a a Columbus, Ohio connection. I believe Epstein was some type of advisor or advisory role to uh
Wexner here in Columbus. And I and I believe that was short-lived. So, uh, maybe he heard rumors or or thought
something was up or or or just didn't like the guy. I think Trump I think Trump said, "Yeah, I knew him. Wasn't a
fan." Yeah. But that's not what he said or, you know, that's not what the quotes
were earlier, right? And and that but we see that all the time. And I I'm not trying to throw Trump under the bus or
get too political. We see that a lot of times. How many people said Bill Cosby was their hero and a great guy? And then
once he gets charged, he thought he was America's dad. Yeah. And then he comes out then a lot of people started saying,
"Well, he was a jerk to me." You know, not only was he doing these, you know, creepy things and and and raping women,
but he was a he was just a jerk in real life. And really those stories didn't come out that much until, you know, the
accusations against him. Um, did you see the uh I think it was the second episode of Comedians and
Cars, the second episode of the new season. I think it's uh whatever episode number it is, it's Seth Rogan. Yeah. And
he's talking with Jerry at that that diner and over coffee. He Seth Seth was saying that
um that he he had heard from Hannibal the comedian. Hannibal Burrus. Yeah. like well before it came out in the
news and he's like h he's like Hannibal told pulled me aside and told me like well then he's well and that that Cosby
was real dirt bag. Well, that's what is so interesting about these YouTube rabbit
holes is if you hear that on that show that you just go, "Okay, well, Hannibal was telling some people." No, no, no,
no. The full story is Hannibal started telling people years before and then he actually started doing bits about it on
stage, right? the bits about it on stage, then got some people to come forward and actually got lawyers
involved. If Hannibal Burus never starts doing bits on stage, these accusations might never went to
court. So, to me, that's fascinating. And just like you said, with this book coming out about Epstein, I wish I knew
it had a really cool title, too. Like I remember uh months ago I was watching the news or something and and they they
brought up this book and I [ __ ] man I I even tried looking it up and I can't find it now. I was going to I was going
to say the name of the title of it here but I I can't find it. Yeah. Yeah. I think but when they talk about the the
system failing these victims, it's like the the system started failing back in Florida and that's where you
wonder I mean my question one is is this guy even dead. Uh the supposedly there is a a a picture of him. Uh and the meme
that I saw with the picture was um you know, rest in peace homeless guy that had similar features to Epstein.
Oh, here we go. And when you see the picture supposedly of dead Epstein, it it doesn't look much like
him. But again, I've you I've also been to funerals of of friends and loved ones
where you you know you you go up to the casket and they don't really resemble themselves too much. It's James
Patterson. So immediately I feel like a [ __ ] Uh James Patterson, famous author. He wrote a book called Filthy
Rich, a powerful billionaire, the sex scandal that undid him and all the justice that money can buy. the shocking
true story of Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. And so what was weird though is like I said
these there's some connection to these higherups here obviously and those are kind of easy to follow and you can see
little clips of like I said Donald Trump hanging out at a party. Just because you're hanging out at a party with
somebody doesn't mean you're close friends with them. Um, but like you said that with the
Clintons using the private plane, then you then it becomes are are they using the private plane as a
favor? Then that becomes a little suspect or are they are they renting this plane of of acquaintance that they
know? But there's also, like I said, these higher up connections with the UK. And that that goes back to Jimmy Savile.
Savile. I believe it's um S A V I L E. Now, who who was Jimmy? So, Jimmy was basically like the Dick Clark over
there. Uh very successful um TV host, did a lot of like Top of the Pops was one of the shows that he did.
And basically, if you got on top of the pops and your band played or your song was played, it's going to become a hit.
And it wasn't just big over there. It was a big thing for American artists to go. Well, Jimmy Salvo would raise all
this money for these um charities and mainly they help like sick kids. Mhm. So all these
accusations once he died came out. It was like people coming out of the woodwork were like, "Hey, this this is
what this dude was up to when he was alive. He he walked around pretending to be helping people and he was using these
charities to molest children." Yeah. and uh using and here's where it gets sad in
my my mind is that there was uh a he was a part of the BBC his number one employer was the BBC and there was
stuff coming out and they weren't reporting it because it became a black eye on them well and that was that whole
situation and I don't know this to be true with Epstein But in that in that whole thing, the the real pisser there
is there were people that absolutely knew what this dude was up to and they looked the other way and and and you
know, and that's always been the suspicion with the with Penn State, you know, and Jerry Sanduski, Jerry
Sanduski, that that there were that that that's the real that's the real slap right there. That's when you look, I I
walk around and and I firmly believe that most people are good people, that the the majority of the public is is is
made up of good people and that there's not a ton of evil in the world. But when
you see things like Penn State or the situation that that we're talking about here where people know something is
wrong and they're they're just choosing to look the other way or choosing to ignore it. That's when you you really
feel bad about just everything. That's when that's when you it's very tough to be a a a positive person when when that
shit's going on. And I'm not saying I believe everything on this doc. There's a documentary uh look it up. I believe
you can watch the whole thing on YouTube called Jimmy Savile and the Ninth Circle. And I'm not really for sure
exactly what the ninth if you look up the ninth circle on YouTube, it gets a bunch of different things. Um a bunch of
things that aren't conspiracy. And then a lot of people use this term the ninth circle when they're talking about
different conspiracies. But this documentary is some of the stuff seems very far-fetched, but a lot of the stuff on
this documentary and there there's another guy named David like Ick or something like that. Anyways, he was a
popular reporter over there that uncovered some stuff that everybody thought was like tin hack conspiracy
stuff and he was kind of basically thrown to the wolves. Well, he was talking about all this stuff that Jimmy
Savile was doing for years and people were calling him a nut job. And then when the actual accusations started
coming out and people started reporting this stuff, then they're like, "Well, maybe this guy knows more." I mean, he
was talking about it for years. So, but what what was interesting was how many higherups that Jimmy Savile
was connected to that were also pedophilia uh or pedophiles. And then it becomes
not just that Jimmy Savo is a pedophile, but that there is people in higher places that are a
part of a pedophilia ring. And they've basically approved that with Jimmy Savile. I mean, we have I believe
there was over 500 accusations. That's a lot. Um, and there's also I believe every I I again I didn't write down
notes about this because it was just this long conspiracy train, but you know, there's kids going missing. you
know, every couple minutes in the UK. And some of these kids, they have a lot of missing kids,
even a part of these charities that they don't have any answer for. And one of the kind of sicker
accusations on top of the pedophilia stuff is that these higherups would take these kids out on these boats and then
the kids would not come back. um whatever they were, you know, done to him, sexual torture basically on these
boats and then they would kill the kids and and and the kids would not come back. I don't know if that will ever be
one fully investigated because he's dead now and his connections to the queen, his connections to the, you know, um the
different princes, uh people in parliament, all those his connections are so high up. And then also his
connection with the BBC. There was a lot. Again, what we do know for a fact is there was multiple
things that the BBC has stopped uh from coming out fulllength documentaries. Um and and they're not really answering for
that, which I think is kind of sick. You know, it's like, yeah, we understand that you employed him, and we understand
that some of this stuff probably happened on your property, but it doesn't make it right now that you're
trying to just like cover it up and keep moving forward. If some of this stuff is true,
this is, you know, a bigger problem. And and a lot of people, there's just some people that just don't believe that
there are these, you know, pedophilia rings. Um, and uh, and that's sad, but I think
that's because some of this stuff is stopped. Now, with Epstein, I think he did a
4,000page I don't know if he wrote it or if somebody helped him write it while he
was in jail, but I know that there's there's a 4,000page document that they have.
Um, but again, it's not very clear if it's like this bombshell document or not. Cuz
that's what I wondered. Is he is he killing him? Is he killing himself if he killed himself
um so he wouldn't have to um bring up these higher powers um that maybe he was connected to? Or
did he just not want to stand trial? Um, or did he get I mean, look, we know he has some higher up
connections. Did they contact him and say, "Look, we can't help you and that's why you did this." But I'd really be
interested to see what's in this 4,000page report that they're talking about. But like I said, there's there's
a couple connections based off of that report um that loosely kind of connect him
to Jimmy Zavo and that's pretty crazy. And I, like I said, very loosely connect them, but it'll be
interesting to see once this report comes out if people can connect more dots. Mhm. And then if you can connect
more dots, this this giant black eye uh on the BBC and the giant black eye on on
the queen. If these are connected, then how deep and how sick is this thing? and and so I'll be interested to to see
that. And um but yeah, well with with Epstein dead, this is my prediction. With Epstein dead, there's one less person
plugging holes in the wall. I think that levy is going to break eventually and there's going to be just a ton of
information and things that come out cuz again, there's one less person keeping everything hush hush. Well, here's
what's crazy, though, is the one of the things that I saw on I believe on CNN and
Fox was um the security footage supposedly malfunctioned during this time. Mhm. Like, come on, give me a
break. This guy was on suicide watch. You take him off suicide watch around the time he kills himself. You're going
to tell me that the security footage malfunctioned. You [Music] think that's what's so sad and all this
stuff is where was he being held? Uh I'm not really for sure. I just remember when they actually showed the a picture
of it, I remember thinking that's kind of janky looking. Uh I want to say maybe he was being held
in New York. Were these federal charges or was he just aras was he he probably has a residence in New York.
Um now my guess is he's addicted to whatever sex acts he was um committing. Yeah. And that now that he knows I I
think he's in there for a while and his counsel eventually tells him, "Yeah, you're going to spend the rest of your
life in prison. We're going to fight this. we're going to represent you, but you're spending the rest of your life in
prison there. We we can't sugarcoat this. Uh and I think he's addicted to these this bad behavior and these these
terrible acts that he was committing against others. And now that he knows he can't do that anymore, he he didn't want
to live. He had nothing to live for. Yeah. But also based off of these reports, I mean, it's going to be
interesting to see what other charges are brought because, you know, some of the people that have already come
forward with accusations, I believe some of the stuff that is in this 4,000page report, they have been able to back up
where, you know, this this was a sex trafficking ring and he had people working for him that no longer work for
him, but worked for him for a long time. uh that are in decent positions of power, not maybe so much government, but
they went on to to have a good career somewhere else. Well, if you're helping run a sex trafficking ring for 10 years,
you're going to you're going to go away, you know, uh and hopefully those charges
will be brought. I think the thing that scares me is is power and money can and can can stop a
lot of this. You know, is this guy It's not out of the realm of possibilities to say that this guy had
connections big enough and if they were doing nefarious things with him, is it enough to to set the guy free, fake a
suicide? the guy has an island or can live on an island and you just go go there and that's it. We'll never see you
again. You know what I mean? Um the guy has enough money, enough connections as possible, but I think it's that takes a
lot of people to be involved in that because Yes, I agree. You you have a lot of people that stand to
to gain something by prosecuting him. Yes. And so therefore, if you go, okay, well, we have x amount of people over
here who stand to lose a lot by everything coming out, well, we still have x amount, if not more, people who
stand to gain a lot from him being put away. So it that's I I mean I these that that's one of the ideas. The other ideas
had him murdered. I think it's I think it's more likely that he just killed himself cuz he's a scumbag. Right.
Right. And I think that if there was if there were to be a conspiracy in this situation, I would find it more likely
that somebody killed him um rather than they put somebody that kind of looks like him killed, you know what I mean?
It's at some point like like I love conspiracies. I love going down these different rabbit holes and and um
certainly at some point one of them is true. I mean, there's just enough conspiracies out there on different
subjects that one of them has to be true eventually, right? But with some of these conspiracy theories, the the
problem for me is like a lot of times it's a good story, but if you start down that trail, it doesn't take too long at
some point for you to go, "Wait a second. This is starting to spiral way out of control." You know what I mean?
It's it's it's getting very uh hard to believe. So, well, well, I want to bring this up and I don't want I don't want to
talk too long because again, the names and things like that. I'm running out of iced tea. It would it would help if I
had names and stuff, but what was interesting about this was um when the guy that you know like I believe his
name is David Elk or something like that and he's a big conspiracy guy and he talks about some crazy stuff like he
talks about reptilian people and things like that. Sammy Watkins is a reptile person.
Um, I don't I don't know who that is. Sammy Watkins is a professional football player. And apparently either on
Instagram or Twitter, he basically said he's one of, you know, these reptile people. Uh, he he's a reptile person
according to Mr. Watkins. So So this, like I said, he's a completely insane NFL football player. This conspiracy guy
has said some crazy stuff, but he's also said a bunch of stuff that has come true. It's just like Alex Jones. Alex
Jones says some hurtful things, hateful things. Um, there's a reason why he's banned. I'm not saying I'm a fan of Alex
Jones. Let's get that clear. But what we do know is in the '9s when they were talking about these rituals at Bohemian
Grove, he actually recorded it and he presented that to the public. Now you can believe whatever you want to
believe, but you can watch a video of a seance, a fake seance, but a seance nonetheless. And the whole purpose of
the seance and there's high people of government officials at these events. They go there. high officials go to
Bohemian Grove. Um, and why they're there, they did a fake seance about killing a baby. Now, that's on video and
you can watch it and you can believe whatever you want, but you know, whether you hate Alex Jones or not, he brought
that uh video to light. And again, you can believe the video or not. Just like with this David Elk
guy, he he was talking about Jimmy Salvo for years. Nobody believed him and then
thousands of people came forward. Now this same guy was talking and this is where you ready for the rabbit hole.
So this is where it gets pretty strange is he's talking about Epstein and he's talking about Salo. Now, this is before
Epstein's arrest because he knew what happened in Florida and he was saying that there's these people of power and
one of the things that they do or one of the things that these government officials do is what this is what he's
claiming is they've they realize they can get a lot of people to do things if they one
if they don't want to face jail time because of their pedophilia. your actions, right? Or if they don't or if there's
just uh maybe not enough to convict them, but it's enough to shame them publicly that this is a way that the
governments will use individuals as spies or or basically maybe it could be a one-time thing, a couple time thing
like, "Hey, you did this thing. we know about it or you're connected to this person, we know about it. For example,
if they knew two or three higherups were at a party with Epstein and then the person
left, but some stuff went down, the accusers could name these other guys, not as not as doing anything, but being
there. That be that could be enough that the government would then come in and say tell that person, we have this
evidence. You either want to work for us to do this one thing or maybe multiple things or we're going to go public with
this. and he was actually tying all this um weirdly to um the uh McCann's Maline
McCann. And so again, I'm like, "Oh, oh my god, how how deep is this uh conspiracy
rabbit hole?" And I thought, there's no there's no basis of this, right? His thought is
that there's something that um something that the father that they got the father involved, right? And that
what he kind of believed what is that the reason why they were taking there was there was a purpose to their
vacation, right? Yeah. So they could leave their children in the apartment while they go have dinner every night,
right? But here's where here, okay, I'm just I'm not going to go too far into this. People can look it up if they
want, but it's very to me it's very fascinating. He believes that there was something uh whether it w maybe it
wasn't even pedophilia. There there is connections to man um to these organizations that were doing
experimental drugs on genes and other things like that. He thinks that's how they got him to be
a part a spy possibly. Um they visit his home in uh his his hometown I guess which would have been
in like somewhere in Ireland. He visits there. That town is connected to these higher
ups. They go visit there first then they go on vacation. And that was 2007, I believe.
One of the things that people point out is there's that famous video footage where they're on a train or something
and they're filming um was it what's the dad's name? Oh, I I don't know. Um Mr. McCann,
whatever. Right. Yeah. But anyways, he says cuz he's irritated for whatever reason. Again, could just be a joke, but
his whole thing is, "I'm not here for fun. I'm here for work." And he seems very
irritated. So, they they go to this uh hotel. They're there. Their kid is um dies or is kidnapped, who knows? But
where it becomes interesting is this group that they basically connect him to, the head, the president of the
company, the CEO of this company was actually staying in the same uh complex as they were. Mhm. And then
the and he was scheduled to stay there a little bit longer, but when the the kid
went missing, this guy left, which is interesting. But they were saying that they they're
spies for for M5 or whatever. Anyways, it gets very like deep and dark, very involved, but it's one of those things
where you sit there and go, "Okay, this doesn't make any sense. They're spies for the M5. What the, you know, man,
these people should put on tin hats and put their head in a microwave, right?" But what was interesting though,
what what we found it what I found as I kept digging was there was actually a guy in an
organization that uh got all these arms and they were using these arms in in Ireland, right? Explosive devices, guns,
all that kind of stuff, right? And this guy was busted in 2009. He ended up getting all these guns and all these
weapons and all these things, right? And he bought a house or rented a house in like France. But anyways, they busted
him in 2009. But what is really fascinating though is the major spot that he was
running out of was miles away from where um Mattaline McCain went missing from. So that's one of those things where
somebody can I to me I wonder did they did somebody hear this story about this guy being busted in 2009 and then it
puts him in that same area miles away from the McCain's McCann's um in 2007 cuz they know he ran a lot of his
stuff through this area. I I wonder if people reverse engineer some of these conspiracy theories. You know, they go,
"Okay, well, we know this guy was busted in 2009. We know his operation was running in 2007. We know that the
mechans were there." Okay, they probably were spies for the M5. See what I'm saying? Mhm. Or
is it not reverse engineered? But anyways, you want to uh back to true crime. If you want to dive into
something, look up um the stuff about the the man's um being involved with M5 and and you'll have a fun little rabbit
hole to go down to. But that's what I always love about conspiracies personally to me is maybe they're not
connected at all to M5, but when somebody brings up this crazy outlandish thing and then you
actually can find out that a guy smuggling in guns and explosives and all this stuff was working miles away from
where this girl went missing. That's pro that is proof not of the conspiracy, but there's just one piece
of it that's actually true. Does that make sense? I I'm going to have to ask my favorite lizard person, Sammy
Watkins, what he thinks about all this. He He I think he's going to be more dialed in on this than I than I will be.
No, my point being is like with the Epstein thing, it's like we know that they had some kind of relationship with
Bill Clinton. That doesn't mean it's it was a bad relationship. That doesn't mean that
Clinton was involved in sex trafficking. You know what I mean? Right. Well, yeah.
We don't know. I mean, obviously Epstein had a relationship with a lot of people
and we don't know what what that those relationships were, what they were based off of, what they what they involved. I
mean, it very simply could be that that the Clinton camp needed a plane to fly around in and and Epstein donated his
plane for some of these trips. We we don't It looks very bad, right? It definitely looks very bad, but but we
don't know the I think it'd be irresponsible of us as as it was of Trump to to add thoughts and theories onto that
when and and here's the other thing too, especially that that I believe that we will know more of the truth
eventually. And so I I don't want to, you know, you said don't throw Trump under the bus. I don't want to throw
really anybody under the bus at at this point. Right. Right. No. What what I'm saying though is like when you take
somebody like David Elk that is saying for a while that there is possibly a connection between Jimmy Savile, which
is horrible, right? Monstrous. There's possibly a link between him and Epstein. And this is before Epstein is arrested.
And it sounds so crazy of an idea, but then some of the reports have already come out and
they already have these records of Epstein's plane. Again, we don't know if Epste's in the plane or
not, but Epstein's plane flying into naval uh flying to to military bases that he shouldn't have been flying into,
having clearance that he shouldn't have had, and and and having connections with
some of the higher ups in the UK. That's what I'm saying about conspiracies is maybe there's nothing
nefarious at all, but the fact that you can make the connection blows my mind. You know what
I mean? every time. It's just like when people say these higherups are the highest the highest powers of the world,
we know that they meet at Bohemian Grove and you go, "Okay, well yeah, they have
to meet somewhere, right? So they meet at this owl retreat. Okay, who cares, right?" Mhm. Oh, but but they're talking
about dark stuff and there's pedophilia rings and they do children's sacrifices and you hear all this nonsense and you
go, "Well, that sounds crazy." And then somebody is able to record a fake seance of a of a baby being
sacrificed. You can't make that up. I don't know why they're doing that. I don't know. I don't know what that
means. I don't know if it means anything. But the fact that uh that that is that that is proof. It's almost like
um uh th those little parts of the conspiracy I just I just find so um so incredibly fascinating cuz it
doesn't prove that the conspiracy is real but it's con it proves that there is some weight to this
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Brief Summary

The episode examines Jeffrey Epstein's connections, his controversial death, and the justice system's failures regarding powerful individuals.

Key points

Epstein's Mysterious Death. Questions arise about the circumstances of Epstein's death and the justice system's failures.
Connections to Powerful Figures. Discussion on Epstein's relationships with high-profile individuals, including the Clintons and Trump.
The System's Failure. Reflection on how the justice system failed Epstein's victims, starting in Florida.
Future Revelations About Epstein. Speculation on the potential for new information to emerge following Epstein's death.
Malfunctioning Security Footage. Skepticism about the security measures in place during Epstein's time in custody.
Life in Prison. The realization of a lifetime behind bars drives despair.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

Epstein is not a guy that anybody wants to have any association with.

Commentary on Epstein's character and public perception.

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Tension

65/ 100Some tension

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