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[Music] crime the press and the media make you think that a black man arming himself is
illegal or criminal or that he wants to arm himself to rob a liquor store something you know what I'm saying that
is for me to defend myself and it should always be it's just about surviving you
know and we have to be honest about the tools that we use to survive and why is a black life um any any
more recoupable in a white life you know what I'm saying we know that they don't
put the same Security in ghetto that they do in the whites in the in in the white neighborhood so therefore for me
to be out here saying don't you know put your guns down and no violence that's hypocritical and if I didn't talk about
the violence everybody would act like the violence wasn't there we as rappers bought that violence we we bought the
violence that we seen on the street put in our records put in our records for years and after 3 four years people
finally starting to see it because all the statistics that's going on in the streets if we stopped talking about it
then they wouldn't take statistics and when they stopped taking St statistics then we be killing each other in the
street and these white people wouldn't care no more only people they only reason they care is cuz you know there
been some Strays and we just slipped over in the white neighborhoods and it's kids in Iowa that want to be like us you
know what I'm saying it's kids in in Indiana that's trying to be like us cuz they can relate too you know what I'm
saying you even admit it I don't live in that neighborhood anymore there's no real reason for you to carry a 9mm don't
believe that why in in two years I've had a gun pulled on me by my limo driver by police by everybody you know what I'm
saying and I better be I better be you know what I'm saying I've been attacked you ain't read the papers about these
skin heads trying to blow up black churches why they see me as the enemy just like y'all do you know what I'm
saying they can come to my house and sit outside my house just like anybody else
can a skin hereit and once my life is gone it's gone can't nobody give it back to me not the judge not the president
not the governor not Calvin buts not Jesse Jackson they can't do nothing but come to my funeral and talk pretty about
how black people suffer and once my life is gone it's gone [Music] September 13th 1996 a crowd of people
gathered outside the University Medical Center in Los Vegas Nevada because of Tupac Shakur a rapper almost as famous
for his police record as he was for his music inside the hospital Tupac was fighting for his life 6 days earlier he
had been shot while riding in a car with his record labels owner at a stoplight A
car pulled up next to the car that Tupac was in and opened fire MH Tupac was shot
four times and we got to go back and talk about the life of Tupac leading up to the event here Captain so Tupac was
born June 16th 1971 in East Harlem in a section of New York City MH his mother aeni was an active
member of the Black Panther Party in the late 1960s and early 1970s now I'll just
refer to him as Tupac or PAC you know because we have different name changes and I don't want things to get confusing
so pac's mother aeni along with 20 other members of the Black Panthers they were
arrested in 1969 they called this group the New York 21 the police said that the group had
planned to blow up several places in New York it sounds like all of the New York
21 made bail but while they were out two of the members ran and fled well when this happened authorities began rounding
up the remaining members and aini found herself in New York women's house for detention and at this time she's
currently pregnant with two Poore yeah she had to get a court order this allowing her extra food for the
pregnancy but really all it was in addition to what everyone else was eating was the addition of an egg and a
glass of milk each morning aeni said that she had never been able to carry a child past 3 months of pregnancy but in
the midst of all this this child stayed now this could be the first indication that this baby wasn't going to be just
your average kid aeni from everything I could tell was a very smart lady um she did not have any education as far as a
law background goes but but she did serve as her own lawyer in May of 1971 aeni and 13 other members were
cleared of all charges so Tupac was born a month after she was acquitted she was
cleared of more than 150 charges of conspiracy against the United States government and New York landmarks in the
state of New York well let's be clear especially in New York City the Black Panther Party was known for feeding the
black community and uh school children so just because there was possibly these terrorist threats doesn't mean that she
had any involvement and like you said she was acquitted of all charges Tupac said that his mother didn't hide the
truth from him saying she didn't know who his father was Tupac would later accept Billy Garland as his father this
was a man that his mother had a previous relationship with in the mid-70s aini became involved with mutulu Shakur and
even though the couple didn't marry m ULU considered himself Tupac's stepfather ULU and Aina did have a
daughter together now Tupac's stepfather he ends up he spends four years at large
on the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives list beginning in 1982 MH he was wanted for helping his sister escape from a
penitentiary in New Jersey in 1979 she had been in prison since 1977 for killing a State Trooper she was a
fugitive for several years before asylum in Cuba in 1985 now in 1986 mutulu was caught tried
and convicted for the robbery of a Brinks armored truck in which two police officers and a guard were killed
sometime in the early 80s Tupac's mother tried crack cocaine and she did have some drug troubles from time to time and
we'll see this again later throughout his life so I think we can say growing up was not easy for Tupac there of
course were many hurdles for this young man and he's going to get into the Arts pretty early in his life yeah in 1983 at
the age of 12 pac's mother signed him up for a theater group in Harlem he was cast as Travis younger uh the character
in the play A Raisin in the Sun which was performed at the Apollo Theater so this is this is a big deal uh in 1985
right I think yeah per performed when Jesse Jackson was running for president now in 1985 the family end up moving to
Baltimore Maryland it was there that Tupac enrolled in the Baltimore School for the Arts uh where he basically
studied everything I mean acting poetry music you name it uh I believe this is where he developed a close friendship
with Jada pinket uh or later Jada pinket Smith I know that he was longtime friends with Jada and that was no
surprise to me when we started looking at this case and who Tupac is or was and I knew that he had a tough time growing
up but I really didn't know how schooled and educated he was in the Arts from such a young age I find that incredibly
surprising um I found a quote that that is it's a bit of a sad one but I think it would it helped me understand some of
his Drive uh Tupac said I didn't like my life but through acting I could become somebody else I think that tells you a
lot of what's going on in his world and what got him to focus on these these more POS positive aspects in 1988
Tupac's mother is still battling her addiction with crack cocaine and she's actually in an abusive relationship so
she's going to send her son and her daughter off to live with their godmother in California Tupac would
point to this moment as quote as the point where I got off track uh later aeni would follow the kids to California
it sounds to me like the Godmother had her own uh battles going on she she had some alcoholism I think that was going
on it was not a perfect situation to send your kids to well and what Tupac stated in multiple interviews was oh
yeah so my mom had all these issues then she sends us to California oh by the way
my godmother had all the same issues you know abusive relationship addicted to drugs Tupac would eventually drop out of
school um but he did have a chance meeting in a park with Leela Steinberg a young writer teacher and music producer
uh it's through this connection that Pac gets to try out for a group called The Digital Underground uh who was a
fantastic rap group everybody probably remembers the hit the Humpty Dance I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom
thank you Captain I was a fan of the Digital Underground and if you YouTube same song by Digital Underground you
actually see Tupac in that video well after this this must be like 1991 so Tupac is in his first movie this is
hilarious because I love loved this movie this is digital under underground andac of course this was the movie
nothing but trouble the group in the movie the group is pulled over for speeding and they have to appear before
a judge the judge is Dan akroy and when in court they performed their song titled same song with the judge joining
in eventually on keyboards um this movie had chevie Chase Demi Moore and the late
great John candy in it uh so after this Tupac broke out on his own he's now like
he's now 20 and in late 1991 the record that he's going to come out with is tupacalypse now yeah and around this
same time he's going to get cast in a much bigger role in what according to critics is probably considered a much
better movie not not me because I love nothing but treble but he is cast in a better movie as the uh or as the captain
would say the film a film uh called juice M uh so that's kind of a good review of Tupac's early life and his
break into Fame but Pac was not just famous for his music and acting um once he started getting famous he had run-ins
with the law and he also had an attempt on his life now the first story that I could recall with Tupac and the police
well this is a nasty one in the fall it's the first one once he's famous the first one in the fall of 1991 uh police
stopped him in Downtown Oakland California now he stopped for jaywalking this shouldn't probably shouldn't be a
very big deal right probably shouldn't stop him but but the story I heard is that Pac showed three forms of ID to the
two officers that had stopped himh but the officers refused to believe that Tupac Shakur was his real name Pac ends
up losing his temper and he wants to know why it took two off officers to stop him for something as simple as
jaywalking M um and then shortly after there's a verbal altercation to put it nicely um the officers then grabbed him
and one puts him in a choke hold he's taken down to the concrete PX says that when he woke up from the attack he was
cuffed and he was faced down in the street he was he was only in jail for about 7 hours for this whole thing that
went down uh but in December 1991 Tupac filed a $10 million civil lawsuit against the Oakland Police Department
well cuz you're missing a little bit of the story so once they arrest him on the
street and there was a physical altercation in the street and let's just say Tac probably provoked some of that
right so I'm not going to let him off the hook that easy right but once they got him into the jail they beat the
living crap out of him and he had a black eye he had a bunch of bruises all over his face and that that's why he
pressed charges yeah and I think he they were they were pretty brutal to him before that though bringing him into the
jail where people on the street could see that portion of it go down so he files that $10 million lawsuit against
the Oakland Police Department um allegedly saying that they brutally beat him for jaywalking uh Shakur received
approximately $42,000 I believe in in settlement money um but most of this uh went to pay for
his lawyer in this situation yeah basically admitted that they're wrong and that there was no charges either so
it's kind of like you know nobody wins nobody loses there on August 22nd 1992 in Marin City uh Shakur performed at an
outdoor festival and he stayed for an hour afterwards signing autographs and pictures a confrontation occurred and
Tupac pulled out a legally registered gun and dropped it someone picked up the gun and it goes off and a bullet was
discharged well about a 100 yards away a 6-year-old boy on a bicycle at a nearby
playground he's hit with the bullet uh it struck him in the forehead and it killed him although Tupac and his
stepbrother Maurice Harding were arrested on suspicion of firing the gun no charges ended up being filed uh the
County prosecutor basically had basically pretty much had no case because of lack of
witnesses U but later a wrongful death LW suit was brought against Tupac and his label inner scope uh by the kid's
mother so under a confidential settlement and this is the wording from a newspaper article at the time a record
company for rap star Tupac Shakur has agreed to pay between $ 300,000 and $500,000 to the parents of a
six-year-old boy who was killed by a stray bullet during a scuffle at an outdoor Festival in Marin City in 1992
now attorneys for Tupac and for the parents of the boy they reached the settlement in in the lawsuit brought by
the dead child's family after several hours of closed door negotiations before you know before any
witnesses to the shooting could take the stand right the lawyers would not publicly discuss details of this
agreement however sources familiar with the agreement said a record firm whose name they would not disclose but we
already know as inner scope will play the will pay the parents more than $300,000 but less than
$500,000 to settle the suit they would not be more specific about the mo the amount in their opening remarks lawyers
for both sides agreed that the bullet that hit the boy came from a handgun that was registered to Tupac right but
they gave differing versions of how the shooting took place now the parents attorneys told the jury that Tupac was
carrying a concealed weapon when a fight broke out he drew the weapon brandished
it but dropped it and then yelled at Harding to get the gun several shots were fired including the one that killed
the boy Tupac's lawyer told the jury that Tupac and Harding were attacked by a mob of angry people and at one point
someone fired a gun over the heads of the crowd to scare them off I'm not certain that that's a great defense but
I guess it's that's probably why they ended up settling this took place during an outdoor Festival which was among the
large longest running events conducted by African-Americans in Northern California the event was not held for
years after the boy's death now that was taken from a newspaper article from 1995
so I'm not sure if or when they may have resumed the Annual Festival in March of
1993 Tupac was arrested for threatening a limo driver in California well and this is a story he brings up often in
interviews he talks about like why why do I need to carry a gun well because cuz I've had guns pulled on me in the
last several years and he always talks about that had a gun pulled on me by a limo driver well if you're making
threats maybe that's why the gun was pulled on you mhm or maybe the gun was pulled on you and then you made threats
I'm not I'm not really for sure also in 1993 Tupac was charged with one count of
felonius assault uh he was accused of attempting to hit another rapper with a baseball bat at a concert at uh Michigan
State University the incident reportedly began when Tupac be became angry and threw a microphone uh he pled guilty in
September of 94 to a misdemeanor in exchange for the dismissal of the felonius assault charge he was sentenced
to 30 days in jail 20 of which were suspended and he was ordered to perform 35 hours of community service well if
there's trouble you know tacac there you know that's what he does with the baseball bat to straighten out the
situation to be fair I mean this he was a small guy he was what like 5'8 5'9 uh maybe 150 160 lbs yeah and I want to be
clear about something too because in a lot of these stories all right you know yes we're pointing out that he pled
guilty or that he was charged with this um there's like we see all the time there's varying accounts of these
stories of what actually happened who who was the problem who was not the problem well and yeah I mean look Tupac
is controversial but I think a lot of his issues came from I mean obviously especially at that time and you're a
celebrity and you're in you're in the gangster rap world you got a Target on your back for trouble right right so I
maybe he brought some of this on himself maybe it was brought upon him and he had
to defend himself I I don't know I wasn't there now I don't want to sound like some kind of jack wagon here but
for some reason I like this next story but but you got got to hear it all the way through before you judge me okay
well already judging you before you judge me I uh in in Atlanta we should have never covered the case we got two
uh Suburban boys in a garage covering Tupac in Atlanta in late 1993 Tupac was charged with shooting two offut Duty
Suburban policemen how how you like this story well I told you you got to hear it
all the way through before you judge me see you you I got one sentence in and you start judging I'm not mad at you the
Atlanta police said that the shooting occurred after two cars carrying Tupac in his party almost struck the two men
in their wives as they crossed the city street okay Tupac was arrested at his hotel shortly after the shooting he was
charged with two counts of aggravated assault and then released on $55,000 bail now Tupac's lawyer said that it
appeared from investigators descriptions of the incident that the two officers started whatever gun play that had
occurred you know so we have a who shot first situation According to some accounts it was one of the officers who
first Drew and possibly fired a gun although no weapons were recovered the police say Witnesses gave this account
of the incident Mark Whitwell uh he's a police officer and his wife were crossing the street Mark Whitwell well
wonder what color he is well markk is a police office officer and he and his wife were crossing an Atlanta Street
with whitwell's Brother Scott who was also a police officer and his wife after the couples were nearly hit by the car
this is the car with Tupac and and the other car following them right um the two officers were both in civilian
clothes at this point they argued with the driver and the passengers of the car as well as the occupants of the second
car that had pulled up so according to some accounts Mark Whitwell pulled out a gun but it was not clear whether he had
fired it Witnesses said that Tupac then fired a gun three shell casings from a 9mm pistol were recovered by police now
do you want to hear about the aftermath of this incident yeah I'm trying to figure out why you like this story okay
we're getting to the part that I like all right okay it was later determined that the officers were drunk and in
possession of stolen guns oh great Okay so as they crossed the street a car with
Tupac inside passed them or almost struck them after arguing Mark Whitwell shot at Tupac's car Tupac then shot one
officer in the butttock and then the other he shot the other officer as well and I think this
was in the leg there's varying news reports about where he shot the guy okay um Mark Mark Whitwell was charged with
firing at Tupac's car and later charged for lying to the police during the investigation
Tupac was charged with with the shoting as well but the prors eventually dropped
all charges against both parties oh really mhm yeah this is just like a really bad horrible incident where you
know drunk people stolen Guns by the police um yeah cops lying yeah un fortunately nobody was seriously injured
or or killed in this incident but it's just a whole bunch of of people Behaving Badly um Tupac wased to be in the movie
Menace to Society 2 uh the directors were twin brothers uh who had directed some of I believe they directed some of
pac's music videos uh but after several fights on the set with the directors Pac
was fired well he this really upsets Pac and he he storms the set armed with a baseball bat uh and he goes after both
of the twins after both of the directors uh he was later found guilty of this assault well let's uh let's just put it
out there for the listeners I mean were you a you know normally there was two camps there was the Tupac camp or the
biggie Camp mhm which Camp were you in um I have to pick a whole Camp um yeah I mean you could like both of them I'm
just saying but you'd have to pick one over the other if I guess if I could only choose one I was definitely a
bigger Notorious BIG fan um I owned more of his music than I did of the death row
West Coast guys I've always liked Dr Dre a lot uh so it's it's tough for me to say that I don't really think of rap
like that you know like um those the gangster rap was never my thing I always liked kind of the more out there guys
like like Buster Rhymes uh the Fuji I like um well we were pretty young cyp hill we were also pretty young at the
time right when like Tupac was coming out and more of a hit that was like middle middle school early High School
yeah and we were probably still stuck in our grunge phase for a little bit of that time but okay so if you had to pick
favorite Tupac song what what would you pick I tell you what I you know I only really liked the hits of Tupac but if I
picked one and this is one that I would recommend to anybody because I think this this song shows his talent you know
like I said I'm not big into gangster rap but uh he sounds so white when you said but
well yeah uh but I like Dear Mama by by Tupac and I'll tell you why because I think I
think you could listen like any style of music and still like that song like even
if you didn't like rap I think you could pick up that song and be like all right
I get this I like it it's that good of a song well I'm just throwing this out there and and I think one of the hardest
things to do is to take a song and remake it and make it better than the original right mhm and I want to and a
fabulous artist a very talented artist uh Bruce Hornsby he had the song the way it is right and uh Tupac remade that and
made it into changes oh yeah I personally think that Tupac's song is better now I might get some hate mail
for that but I think he took a song to the next level and I think what he's saying is very socially relevant today
as much as it was back then mhm another song that is socially relevant probably today too is uh keep your head up that's
another one that you should check out if you're not familiar with his work but we'll get right back to that after this
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[Music] that all right we're back cheers mates cheers now I just want to paint a quick
picture here for the younger listeners Captain because we're only up to about 93 1993 in our timeline and we have a
guy that that bust I mean the guy bust onto the scene right he comes onto the scene in 91 and Tupac he was you know we
have albums coming out he's in multiple movies uh in such a short period of time
this was a guy that became very famous very quickly he almost became it wasn't even just like oh well he's a star or
he's a superstar almost became an icon instantly yeah and the the thing that I remember being a younger guy was that it
seemed like over the course of this two-year period that this guy was just always on TV like I said the the the
music the the movies well the arrest and the arrest and that's what it was you couldn't turn on MTV or you couldn't
turn on the TV without hearing about something that either he he was being accused of or an achievement that he
made as far as his his acting or music career his talents and then he was in such high demand because he became so
famous he was a huge star that everybody wanted to interview him so we have this
guy that has these let's say just you know blanket it and say legal troubles but the thing I remember the most about
him was that he would do a lot of interviews and in the legal troubles always came up during the interviews so
you would get to hear kind of his opinion on some of these things which was not something that you always saw
with most stars you know most stars if if they're facing some kind of trouble they might try to hide from the
Limelight a little bit uh well right but I don't know how many stars were facing
this much trouble Yeah well yeah that and you know he was a he was a very young man at this point in his life um
but and I believe in in at least one occasion they had used some footage from one of his interviews even against him
at one of his trials yeah and I also think you know uh to paint a picture too is as
much as it was you know from The Outsider looking in it would just be ah this guy's a gangster rapper right so
he's he's a thug right and he was saying stuff like thug life and stuff so he's just but when you really break down a
lot of his interviews he was saying a lot of things of substance this this guy was uh a character of a lot of substance
oh yeah yeah very very intelligent guy he might not always shown that off of the stage um I I think with his legal
trouble what I see here is is a it's like I said earlier he's a very young man I think he was impulsive young man
at times overreacting in situations yeah and I think he was um forthcoming with the idea hey I'm I'm angry mhm you know
uh I grew up in the gutters and nobody helped me and now that I'm getting something I'm I'm angry mhm well in 1993
this was in November of 1993 um this was one of his more well-known legal troubles that he faced
uh Tupac and others were charged with sexually assaulting a woman in a hotel room M uh of course he denied the
charges according to Tupac he had had prior relations days earlier with the woman that were consensual uh he says
that his accuser claimed sexual assault after her second visit to Tupac's hotel room and she alleged that secure Tupac
secure and his Entourage had raped her um so this thing this thing goes to trial uh the woman testified that she
had had consensual oral sex with Tupac at a nightclub uh 4 days earlier on the Dance Floor yes and we know that from
watching a interview with arcenio Hall um where he talked about some of you know some of this case as much as he
probably could being that he's still on trial and possibly more than he should have yeah yeah exactly but she she says
that at the hotel room that Tupac wanted to share her with his friends who forced
themselves on her she said that Tupac and three of his friends they quote set upon set upon me like
animals uh as the victim addressed the court now she's talking to the court right she's giving her statements Tupac
stares intensely at her during her statements uh he then he gets up and apologized to her uh he went on to say
I'm not apologizing for a crime he added I hope in time you'll come forth and tell the truth uh the defense said that
she had made the accusations out of jealousy when when she had seen Tupac with another woman right now one thing
going on here at the trial this was a very wellp publicized trial like the captain said this is something he spoke
about in interviews um so there were a lot of Tupac supporters present at this trial in fact at one point a a woman
that was in the courtroom she leaned over the rail and kissed Tupac on the cheek uh this is just before a court
officer ordered her back to her seat I'm I'm surprised she wasn't thrown out of the Court complet
well and again we we should put this in a little more context too though I mean yeah as much as he has you know you know
the gangster rap songs he also had some very like we were talking about before these uh socially relevant songs and one
of the songs was keep your head up and and that song was all about it was a very a feem feminist uh viewpoint on on
everything MH uh and very uh well if I remember correctly that's the song where you know he this some songs are a story
right and the the if I remember correctly this is the song where he talks about the woman she's wearing
sunglasses or glasses and he knows why she's wearing the glasses because somebody had hit her yeah well he was
raised by a single mother and so it's very you know um stay strong you know if you're a single mother yeah you have a
lot more to deal with but stay strong it's worth it you know your kids are counting on you and and a lot of stuff
too with you know if you're in an abusive relationship you're worth more than that
and and just things of that nature well on the night of November 30th now this is
1994 this is still during the trial for the sexual assault charges that Tupac was facing Tupac was robbed and shot
five times by three men in the lobby of the Quad recording studio in Manhattan MH uh Tupac stated that he believed the
robbery to be a setup uh that he was set up for the attack and and he he even made comments about you know they stole
jewelry from me but why did they leave you know my Rolex watch they didn't take that right uh Tupac you know think about
this for a second here he shot five times right right he he very quickly checked out of the Belleview Hospital
Center against doctor's orders this was just 3 hours after surgery um and then in the day that followed
he entered the courthouse back at his trial in a wheelchair yeah well and the the big
suspicion here was you know they already had this East Coast West Coast battle going on so a lot of people thought that
east coast rappers were responsible for this possible hit but also the other thing too was uh Tupac you know the cops
actually thought that they could solve this case but Tupac wasn't really that Cooperative with them no no um in fact
uh well let's let's get back to the trial real quick and we'll go through this this whole attack because that's a
whole that's a whole other can of worms um in the end Tupac and his Road manager
this is Charles Fuller uh they were convicted of first-degree sexual abuse um they were acquitted of weapons and
sodomy charges uh Tupac was sentenced to one and a half to 4 and 1/2 years in prison for sexually abusing the they
call her a fan uh and he tearfully apologized to his victim but even as he apologized he said
that he had committed no crime right and he States this over and over and over and over again in interviews MH so let's
go back to this uh attack uh or the shooting that happened at in the recording studio yeah and you could
almost call this an attempt on his life to be shot five times or shot at five times it almost appears like an
attempted murder M um but yes there was a robbery as well but in a 1995 interview with Vibe magazine uh Tupac
accused Shan Colmes uh better known as puffy or Puff Daddy um also Jimmy henchman and Biggie among others you
know so there's other people he accused of this of setting this situation up um of setting up the attack at the quad
recording studios now eventually the the the magazine would change the names of some of the accused as salent upon
publication um so you know it did not they did not implicate Biggie or Puff Daddy in this in this actual thing but
that's who he was accusing yeah but if you're a Tupac fan and you listen to probably at this time half of his
songs he starts saying you you guys know what you did you know you try to kill me
he puts it out in songs now I had read some information that said that biggie had Entourage that was was upstairs uh
when this incident took place um which from the way I understand it this is a large this is took place in a large
building um now I I don't know if that's for certain but the way that the story goes is that Biggie's Entourage whomever
they were they went downstairs to check out the incident and Tupac was being carried out on a stretcher by this time
and he's basically you know he's being Tupac he's he's shouting at everybody he's angry at the situation of course
he's just been shot five times and he's been and he's giving the finger to anybody in the area right now I do want
to touch upon some things here before we get to the the situation that takes place in Las Vegas because there are a
lot of people that believe that these two attacks could be tied in together that they could have potentially been
carried out by the same person or persons or ordered by the same person or persons so in in the Los Angeles Times
this is journalist Chuck Phillips now Phillips would later allege that Sean Puffy Colmes and Chris Wallace better
known as biggie uh were aware a week in advance that Tupac would be ambushed in the 1994 shooting in New York's quad
recording studio um this would be two years before he was shot and killed in Vegas uh and the quote says that they
were advised in advance of what was going to happen uh they did not know the asants were going to be shooting in fact
they were told not to shoot um but what had happened apparently was that when this attack went down they state that
Tupac pulled a gun and went haywire and it was supposed to just be a severe beating that turned into this this
terrible shooting mhm well again like we said there was a lot of these battle rap
songs going on between West Coast and East Coast a lot of trash talking back but look Tupac's from New
York biggie from New York um Biggie and Tupac were friends for a while uh biggie
actually opened up for Tupac multiple times now you know there's a lot of speculation on why they had the falling
out possibly with Tupac sleeping with biggy's wife and things like that um but as far as their careers go having that
battle between each other and that hype again like we said in this uh 2 threeyear period you could not turn on
the TV without seeing Tupac Shakur on MTV MTV News same way with biggie because every time Tupac was doing an
interview he did probably 100 times more interviews than biggie but every time he's bringing up Biggie's name yeah if
if there were going to be an Elvis of rap you could put Tupac and Biggie as the one a and one B you know depending
on who you talk to that was the biggest guy that was the king of Hip Hop all right so who was trying to get at one of
the Kings right who was trying to get at Tupac so in Philip's article he also alleges that the main Mastermind behind
Tupac's setup was that Jimmy the henchman guy remember we mentioned him earlier but but he has connections to
Puff Daddy correct and and he it's it's Jimmy henchman Roseman is is what I I don't believe any of that is his full
real name um but basically uh I'm in the wrong business man it states that Phillips the the right of the article
had arrived at this conclusion after years of delving into the incident he had talked to men who he believed were
directly involved in the shooting and had uncovered papers documenting uh the incident from an an FBI investigation
whose findings coincide with what the article was stating now the the FBI talked to some criminals according to
these documents and these criminals said that Jimmy henchmen was involved um I do
I do want to be clear here though because um it this they would later the Los Angeles Times would later retract
this article um because I think they I think they were afraid they're going to get sued yeah because I think it came
into question how he may have um uncovered some of this evidence and where he received some of these
documents from or how yeah yeah it the rumor is this that he received them from a guy that had told some stories in the
past and might have forged some things in the past so when you receive documents from this guy you got to
wonder did he Forge these particular documents themselves right now years later we have this this person Dexter
Isaac um he he was serving life in prison without parole for multiple murders and and armed robberies um
apparently he was working on releasing a book detailing his life in New York City
you know on the streets of New York City as a Hitman and as muscle for uh this Jimmy henchman Roseman guy that we've
been talking about uh so apparently Jimmy henchman at some point finds his way into prison as well serving quite a
bit of time maybe even life for drug trafficking money laundering and witness tampering so we're seeing a lot of too
bad puffy didn't go with them well we're seeing a lot of Bad Dudes uh that are rumor to have been involved in this
setup that Tupac was talking about yeah it's interesting that he didn't want to cooperate with the the police but but I
know that's that's different it's a different time and it's also a different uh lifestyle uh the attack the attack
itself went like this according to Dexter he says that Jimmy the henchman had approached him and some of his
associates and they ordered he ordered them to Rob Tupac when he got to the studio that evening de Dexter says he
was paid $2,500 cash to carry this out uh Jimmy told Dexter not to shoot Tupac uh but to
catch him by surprise and pistol whip him and then kick him around for a little bit and take his biggest diamond
ring uh Dexter said that he saw Puff Daddy immediately after that conversation he saw puff with Jimmy and
stating that he made eye contact with puffy all right so then he come out to dinner and they they made love all night
what what was the point he so he made eye contact with a powderpuff daddy well what I what I think he's stating here is
that he's saying you know I was hired to carry out this robbery to to go attack Tupac um and before we get too far into
this I do want to mention there are some accounts out there we talked about Tupac
being shot five times there are some accounts according to certain witnesses that Tupac might have accidentally shot
himself once or twice during this altercation I'm sorry s right but but come on you're getting attacked and then
you pull a gun out and you end up shooting yourself like I said you shouldn't be carrying a gun if that's
what's going to happen I don't know for certain but according to some witnesses they think that he might have shot
himself once or twice okay we but but what does this have to do with puffy is what you wanted to know yeah but the
thing is is this is now the second altercation that we know of that he pulls a gun on and there's accidental
shootings right and again too 2,000 bucks hey I want you to go into the studio and Rob Tupac I want you to get
his biggest diamond ring I'll give you two grand two grand really it seems a little this guy beats people up with
baseball bats it seems a little light too for a guy that that was pretty vocal about always carrying a gun or a firearm
you know you right I would assume if I were this Dexter Isaac but but then again this Dexter Isaac guy's serving
life in prison so maybe he's not all there maybe the elevator doesn't go all the way up or maybe he just don't give a
[ __ ] right and the thing is is that did you just cuss for the first time on the
show we're breaking down walls wow man we start talking about Biggie and Tupac you get gangster you get Real Gangsta up
in here okay so let's get back to P Powderpuff daddy right okay so how does and if you can't tell I don't like him
um well this these are just statements according to this Dexter Isaac guy right so basically what he's saying is that
shortly after he's hired by Jimmy like just minutes after he's he we have this conversation he hires him to take out
this Attack On Tupac that he sees Puff Daddy with this same guy that just ordered it right meaning that the guy
that ordered it could be some kind of middleman for Puff Daddy um so basically want to put it past him though I
wouldn't put it past him well Dexter claims his claims basically kind of confirm what other people were already
believing at the time that Puff Daddy was at least aware of this plan now Dexter says that there's no way that
Biggie or any of Junior Mafia uh were there that night uh because he because he knew Puff Daddy right and uh he knew
when he went into the studio that none of these other dudes were around he sees Puff Daddy with this Jimmy guy that
night and that's that's what he's St all right so Powderpuff daddy is maybe the go between guy to to order the hit is
what you're saying right and let's be clear I'm I'm a big biggie fan I'm a big Tupac fan big biggie fan I think you can
be fans of both I don't think you have to choose a side here um well I'm choosing a side that I don't like
Powderpuff daddy that's fine we'll we'll we'll go with that right um so but so he
he goes and describes this incident in some detail um he says that the initial head wound that Tupac suffered uh was
because of Dexter's associate who he labels as JD uh he pistol whipped Tupac remember this was part of Jimmy's
request um and then he says that Tupac reached for his gun and they were rustling for the gun fighting for the
gun for a while before Tupac could pull it out completely now the gun during this course it goes off well maybe
that's how he got hit yeah well and Dexter believes that Tupac and these are his words these are
not scientific words here but he says that he says that the gun went off and he shot himself in the nuts um well this
is where remember how I said there's varying accounts of you know he p is shot five times right and there there's
some witnesses that say that Pac shot himself once some saying he shot himself twice well according to Dexter he shot
himself once well if you shoot yourself in the nuts that's like shooting yourself five times
you right but again it's it's not a scientific thing he might have just shot himself in the pants you know what I
mean uh or or the Bullet went straight through the screw yeah I I don't think that Dexter is sitting there analyzing
the situation I think it's probably a pretty quick attack there's probably a lot of confusion and then you run the
hell out of there yeah he probably didn't say Tupac pull down your drawers let me see what happened but he says
that Tupac wouldn't quit fighting uh that he wouldn't quit fighting back which I think is what we would all
expect um they were trying to take all of Tupac's jewelry and that they shot him several times after this because he
wouldn't quit fighting well and because they're only being paid 2,000 bucks but maybe the thing was uh we want you to
Rob him and whatever you get you can keep mhm he he goes on to state that it was well that basically once Tupac was
at the hospital that Jimmy was willing to send somebody or some buddies there to the hospital to finish the job right
and according to this guy that some of some of Tupac's guys caught wind of this or heard this rumor from somebody or I
think it was phoned into them from somebody they called the police and said look our buddy our dude was he was
attacked he was shot several times he's in the hospital and we heard the rumor that the guys that that set him up the
guys that tried to kill him well they're going to come to the hospital and finish
the job well this yeah this happens all the time I mean I used to work at a bank
right beside of a a hospital and if there was a gang related shooting and there was somebody that got hit right
and they were in recovery that they had to um guard MH that you know for maybe possibly
retaliation or or whatever and I believe that that stuff totally goes down you know that there's probably several
attempts on people in certain situations but it it seems very like Italian mob movie to me right you know what I mean
like you see that in a lot of the Italian mob movies so anyway they phone into the police that you know you've got
to send some people over here because this guy is going to get killed we're going to have an incident at the
hospital and possibly one of the reasons why Tupac didn't want to stay in the hospital well I think you're on to
something there Captain because the rumor is this that the police were basically like yeah we hear you we're
underst staffed we can't we can't send anybody over there to guard the door or whatever it was going to be well and
also in their defense I mean you know how many times Tupac talk [ __ ] about the
cops and songs or in interviews and stuff like that and then look if you're going to talk mad [ __ ] about the cops
like I'm talking mad [ __ ] about you know Puff Daddy right but you don't expect to
be invited to his pool party right but I'm not going to call up Puff Daddy and say hey can you produce a song for me
and and do some dumb dances in my videos I'm not going to do that well and like you said you know that's probably good
reason why to you know I wondered I wondered this because why does Puff Dy dance like a idiot well the that's a
whole another that's a whole another episode that's a whole another crime but the thing here is Captain you
know the what I heard was that Tupac buddies called in this information to the police and like you said about
Tupac he was let's say outspoken okay he was a very outspoken guy I always wondered even if the police had shown up
to watch his room could you think of how possibly uncomfortable that situation could have been for anybody you know
could you see a police officer showing up to his room and then Tupac giving that dude stuff right giving him the bu
giving him the business but like you said um that is is the rumor why Tupac probably left the hospital at the very
first chance he could out of fear as early as he could run out the door he did against doctor's orders shortly
after the surgery well right you were just attacked by these people and you might not know who they are but now
you're getting rumors and you might not have any nuts left so I shouldn't have said that
that's horrible I can't I'm turning into the captain I think you nurse nurse we're
all nuts oh God I think uh I think I think we drank too much I think we we need to wrap this up pretty soon okay so
where were we at well before we do uh you know we should mention after this Attack On Tupac after the attempt and
I'm going to call this this is an attempt on his life in my opinion this is a a murder attempt I don't care if
people say that we were just supposed to beat him I don't care what what goes down once you get there uh this is what
took place right you don't care what you're told to do what you care is what actually happened exactly so the thing
here is Pac has to go back to court he's still waiting you know for the end of this trial on the sexual assault case um
you know he's in a wheelchair we talked about he and his Road manager Chris Fuller were both convicted of
first-degree sexual abuse and now Tupac has this lengthy prison sentence and I say lengthy because the other charges he
had faced in the past he received you know 20-day sentence or a 30-day sentence or things were settled out of
court um so Tupac began serving his prison sentence on the sexual assault charges at the Clinton Correctional
Facility um this would be in 1995 now shortly afterward uh he released his multiplatinum album me
against the world everybody remembers that one uh Tupac became the first artist to have an album at number one on
the billboard billboard 200 chart while serving a prison sentence so he's got that going for him all right good
accomplishment well in October of 1995 Tupac his case is up for appeal at this time um but because he has considerable
legal fees he could not raise the this is what I've been told $1.4 million bail that's that's a whole lot of bail um so
after serving 9 months of his prison sentence uh Tupac is released due large part to the help and influence of a one
Suge Knight right uh who was the CEO of Death Row Records he posted apparently he posted the $1.4 million bail in
exchange for Tupac signing a deal with Death Row Records right and this was all done and this was all handwritten I
think it was like maybe three or four pages it was pretty goofy deal and it was actually uh a three record deal yeah
and from my understanding like you said Captain this was all pretty closed door Hush Hush type stuff for a long time
wasn't it like we'll we'll post your extremely high bail in exchange you're signing a record deal with us that
doesn't it doesn't seem like a real and I yeah I don't know off the top of my head who death row was actually
distributed by MH but they possibly were distributed by Inner scope mhm and like
you said um you know now this is binding Tupac to a three album deal with Death Row Records and now Tupac was scheduled
to be to uh be released from prison because of the influence of a one sh Knight who we we'll have to he's a whole
another he's a whole another character in himself that we'll have to get into in tomorrow show four characters in one
yeah so just to clarify what I was talking about before the label that he was on you know we talk uh about Tupac
being on inter scope well the sub label of that was Jive right and all this contract did was basically make the
sublabel now death row it was still under inner scope records but this this this contract he signed was I don't know
I mean if he would have want to fight it in court he probably could have could have beat it well and I don't know the
details of the contract but he was like like we said at the time he's a number one you know he him and biggy are the
two biggest guys so if you have a record label and you can get one of these dudes
on your label you're going to become one of the biggest labels and the thing here
is it might be because I would argue like you said he might be able to beat it in court because you almost could
argue that under duress he signed this unfair deal let's say um who knows the stipulations of it but it seem yeah I
don't think it was a I don't think it was like an unfair deal but he was already running around in that Circle of
uh rappers anyways and and and death row was already coming up I mean they had the biggest producer in the hip-hop
world Dr Dre uh Snoop Dog was getting big at the time so and they were all friends so I think I think also part of
it too was maybe for the prot for the protection of it Su Knight being a a gang member turn bodyguard turn record
owner record label owner so I think maybe he wanted to join for uh forces with them for security reasons I mean he
was just shot five times okay well we'll get into the the night in Vegas the famous night in Vegas uh and we'll get
into a bunch of theories you know regarding who took down Tupac who was involved uh all that tomorrow well and
we got to start off with the idea of is he dead or alive all right thanks everybody for listening thanks for
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Tupac Shakur was one of the biggest rap stars of the nineties. He sold millions of records and landed roles in hit movies. Tupac was always the rebel and this would cause him legal troubles. After serving time in prison Tupac signed a record deal with the infamous Death Row Records. On September 7, 1996 Tupac attended a boxing match at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. After leaving the match Tupac and his entourage attacked a man in the lobby. After the brawl, Tupac went with Death Row Records owner Suge Knight to go to a night club. On the way to the club their car was shot up while sitting at a stoplight. Tupac was hit with four bullets. He died six days later. To this day no one has been charged with his murder.

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Brief Summary

Tupac Shakur's life, fame, legal troubles, and death are examined in detail.

Key points

Tupac's Early Life. Tupac was born to a mother involved in the Black Panther Party and faced many challenges.
Tupac's Legal Troubles. Tupac faced numerous legal issues throughout his life, including a wrongful death lawsuit.
Tupac's Musical Legacy. Tupac's songs like 'Dear Mama' and 'Changes' showcase his talent and social relevance.
Tupac's Controversial Trial. Tupac faced serious charges of sexual assault, which he denied vehemently.
The Quad Shooting Incident. Tupac was shot five times in a robbery he believed was a setup.
Tupac and Biggie's Rivalry. The intense rivalry between Tupac and Biggie was fueled by personal and professional conflicts.

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Episode quotes

Once my life is gone, it's gone.

Tupac speaks about the fragility of life and violence

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