Tupac Shakur /// Part 1 /// 112 | Forensic Files

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crime foreign [Music] make you think that a black man arming himself is illegal or criminal or that
he wants to arm himself to rob a liquor store or something you know what I'm saying that is for me to defend myself
and it should always be it's just about surviving you know and we have to be honest about the tools that we use to
survive and why is a black life um any any more recoupables in a white life you know
what I'm saying we know that they don't put the same Security in the ghetto that
they do and the whites you know in the white neighborhoods so therefore for me to be out here saying don't you know put
your guns down and no violence that's hypocritical and if I didn't talk about the violence everybody would act like
the violence wasn't there we as rappers want that violence we bought the violence that we've seen on the street
we put in our records putting our records for years and after three four years people bust bunny starting to see
it because all the statistics that's going on in the streets if we stop talking about it then they wouldn't take
statistics and when they stop taking statistics then we'd be killing each other on the stream these white people
wouldn't care no more only people they only reason they care is because you know there's been some Strays and we
just slipped over in white neighborhoods and there's kids in Iowa that want to be
like us you know what I'm saying there's kids in Indiana that's trying to be like
us because they can relate too you know what I'm saying you even admit it I don't live in that neighborhood anymore
there's no real reason for you to carry that nine millimeters don't believe that
why and in two years I've had a gun pulled on me by my limo driver my police about
everybody you know what I'm saying and I better be I better be you know what I'm
saying I've been attacked you ain't read the papers about these skinheads trying
to blow up black churches why they see me as the enemy just like y'all do you know what I'm saying they can come to my
house and sit outside my house just like anybody else can a skinhead and once my
life is gone it's gone can't nobody give it back to me not to judge not the president not the governor not Calvin
Butts not Jesse Jackson they can't do nothing but come to my funeral and talk pretty about how black people suffer and
once my life is gone it's gone is gone [Music] September 13 1996 a crowd of people gathered outside
the University Medical Center in Las Vegas Nevada because of Tupac Shakur a rapper almost as famous for his police
record as he was for his music inside the hospital Tupac was fighting for his life six days earlier he had been shot
while riding in a car with his record labels owner at a stoplight A car pulled up next to the car that Tupac was in and
opened fire Tupac was shot four times and we got to go back and talk about the life of Tupac leading up to the event
here Captain so Tupac was born June 16 1971 and East Harlem in a section of New York City his mother afini was an active
member of the Black Panther Party in the late 1960s and early 1970s now I'll just
refer to him as Tupac or POC you know because we have different name changes and I don't want things to get confusing
so pox mother afini along with 20 other members of the Black Panthers they were arrested in
1969. they called this group the New York 21. the police said that the group had planned to blow up several places in
New York it sounds like all of the New York 21 made bail but while they were out two of the members ran and fled well
when this happened authorities began rounding up the remaining members and affini found herself in New York women's
house for detention and at this time she's currently pregnant with Tupac Shakur yeah she had to get a court order
this allowing her extra food for the pregnancy but really all it was in addition to what everyone else was
eating was the addition of an egg and a glass of milk each morning affini said that she had never been able
to carry a child past three months of pregnancy but in the midst of all this this child stayed now this could be the
first indication that this baby wasn't going to be just your average kid affini from everything I could tell was
a very smart lady she did not have any education as far as a law background goes but she did serve as her own lawyer
in May of 1971 afini and 13 other members were cleared of all charges so Tupac was born a month after she was
acquitted she was cleared of more than 150 charges of conspiracy against the United States government and New York
landmarks in the state of New York well let's be clear especially in New York City the Black Panther Party was known
for feeding the black community and school children so just because there was possibly these terrorist threats
doesn't mean that she had any involvement and like you said she was acquitted of all charges Tupac said that
his mother didn't hide the truth from him saying she didn't know who his father was Tupac would later accept
Billy Garland as his father this was a man that his mother had a previous relationship with in the mid 70s affini
became involved with matulu Shakur and even though the couple didn't marry mutulu considered himself Tupac's
stepfather utulu and afina did have a daughter together now Tupac's stepfather he ends
up he spends four years at large on the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives list beginning in 1982. he was wanted for
helping his sister escape from a penitentiary in New Jersey in 1979. she had been in prison since 1977 for
killing a State Trooper she was a fugitive for several years before gaining asylum in Cuba in 1985. now in
1986 mutulu was caught tried and convicted for the robbery of a Brinks armored truck in which two police
officers and a guard were killed sometime in the early 80s Tupac's mother tried crack cocaine and she did have
some drug troubles from time to time and we'll see this again later throughout his life so I think we can say growing
up was not easy for Tupac there of course were many hurdles for this young man and he's going to get into the Arts
pretty early in his life yeah in 1983 at the age of 12 pox mother signed him up for a theater group in Harlem he was
cast as Travis younger the character in the play A Raisin in the Sun which was performed at the Apollo Theater so this
is this is a big deal uh in 1985 right I think he performed when Jesse Jackson was running for president now in 1985
the family ended up moving to Baltimore Maryland it was there that Tupac enrolled in the Baltimore School for the
Arts where he basically studied everything I mean acting poetry music you name it I believe this is where he
developed a close friendship with Jada Pinkett uh later Jada Pinkett Smith I know that he was long time friends
with Jada and that was no surprise to me when we started looking at this case and
who Tupac is or was and I knew that he had a tough time growing up but I really didn't know how schooled and educated he
was in the Arts from such a young age I find that incredibly surprising I found a quote that that is it's a bit of a sad
one but I think it would it helped me understand some of his Drive Tupac said I didn't like my life but through acting
I could become somebody else I think that tells you a lot of what's going on in his world and what got him to focus
on these these more positive aspects a 1988 Tupac's mother is still battling her addiction with crack cocaine and
she's actually in an abusive relationship so she's going to send her son and her daughter off to live with
their godmother in California Tupac would point to this moment as quote as the point where I got off track
uh later afini would follow the kids to California it sounds to me like the Godmother had her own uh battles right
going on she she had some alcoholism I think that was going on there it was not a perfect situation to send your kids to
why and what Tupac stayed in and multiple interviews was oh yeah so my mom had all these issues then she sends
us to California oh by the way my godmother had all the same issues you know abusive relationship addicted to
drugs Tupac would eventually drop out of school but he did have a chance meeting
in a park with Leela Steinberg a young writer teacher and music producer uh it's through this connection that POC
gets to try out for a group called The Digital Underground who was a fantastic rap group everybody probably remembers
the hit the Humpty Dance I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom thank you Captain I was a fan of the Digital
Underground and if you YouTube same song by Digital Underground you actually see
Tupac in that video well after this this must be like 1991 so Tupac is in his first movie this is hilarious because I
loved this movie this is Digital Underground and POC of course this was the movie nothing but trouble the group
in the movie the group is pulled over for speeding and they have to appear before a judge the judge is Dan Aykroyd
and when in court they performed their song titled same song with the judge joining in eventually on keyboards
um this movie had Chevy Chase Demi Moore in the late great John candy in it so after this Tupac broke out on his own
he's now like he's now 20 and in late 1999 yeah the record that he's going to come out with is two Apocalypse Now yeah
and around this same time he's going to get cast in a much bigger role in what according to critics is probably
considered a much better movie not not me because I love nothing about trouble but he is cast in a better movie as the
uh or as the captain would say the film a film uh called juice so that's kind of
a good review of Tupac's early life and his break into Fame but POC was not just
famous for his music and acting once he started getting famous he had run-ins with the law and he also had an attempt
on his life now the first story that I could recall with Tupac and the police well this is a nasty one in the fall
it's the first one once he's famous the first one in the fall of 1991 police stopped him in Downtown Oakland
California now he stopped for jaywalking this shouldn't probably shouldn't be a very big deal right oh he shouldn't stop
him but but the story I heard is that POC showed three forms of ID to the two officers that had stopped him
but the officers refused to believe that Tupac Shakur was his real name POC ends up losing his temper and he
wants to know why it took two officers to stop him for something as simple as jaywalking and then shortly after
there's a verbal altercation to put it nicely the officers then grabbed him and one puts him in a Chokehold he's taken
down to the concrete pox says that when he woke up from the attack he was cuffed
and he was face down in the street he was he was only in jail for about seven hours for this whole thing that went
down but in December 1991 Tupac filed a 10 million dollar civil lawsuit against the Oakland Police Department well
because you're missing a little bit of the story so once they arrest him on the street and there was a physical
altercation in the street and let's just say Tupac probably provoked some of that right so I'm gonna
let him off the hook that easy right but once they got him into the jail they beat the living crap out of him and he
had a black guy had a bunch of bruises all over his face and that's why he pressed charges yeah and I think he they
were they were pretty brutal to him before that though bringing him into the jail where people on the street could
see that portion of it go down so he files that 10 million dollar lawsuit against the Oakland Police Department
um allegedly saying that they brutally beat him for jaywalking Shakur received approximately 42 000 I believe in in
settlement money but most of this uh went to pay for his lawyer in this situation yeah they basically admitted
that they're wrong and that there was no charges either so it's kind of like you
know nobody wins nobody loses there on August 22 1992 in Marin City Ash core performed at an outdoor festival and he
stayed for an hour afterwards signing autographs and pictures a confrontation occurred and Tupac pulled out a legally
registered gun and dropped it someone picked up the gun and it goes off and a bullet was discharged well about a
hundred yards away a six-year-old boy on a bicycle at a nearby playground he's hit with the bullet it struck him in the
forehead and it killed him although Tupac and his stepbrother Maurice Harding were arrested on suspicion of
firing the gun no charges ended up being filed the County prosecutor basically had basically pretty much had no case
because of lack of witnesses but later a wrongful death lawsuit was brought against Tupac and his label Interscope
by the kid's mother so under a confidential settlement and this is the wording from a newspaper article at the
time a record company for rap star Tupac Shakur has agreed to pay between 300 000
and 500 000 to the parents of a six-year-old boy who was killed by a stray bullet during a scuffle at an
outdoor Festival in Marin City in 1992. now attorneys for Tupac and for the parents of the boy they reached the
settlement in in the lawsuit brought by the dead child's family after several hours of closed-door negotiations
before you know before any witnesses to the shooting could take the stand right the lawyers would not publicly discuss
details of this agreement however sources familiar with the agreement said a record firm whose name they would not
disclose but we already knows Interscope will play the will pay the parents more
than three hundred thousand dollars but less than five hundred thousand dollars to settle the suit they would not be
more specific about the mo the amount in their opening remarks lawyers for both sides agreed that the bullet that hit
the boy came from a handgun that was registered to Tupac right but they gave differing versions of how the shooting
took place now the parents attorneys told the jury that Tupac was carrying a concealed weapon when a fight broke out
he drew the weapon brandished it but dropped it and then yelled at Harding to get the gun several shots were fired
including the one that killed the boy Tupac's lawyer told the jury that Tupac and Harding were attacked by a mob of
angry people and at one point someone fired a gun over the heads of the crowd to scare them off I'm not certain that
that's a great defense but I guess it's that's probably why they ended up settling this took place during an
outdoor Festival which was among the large longest running events conducted by African Americans in Northern
California the event was not held for years after the boy's death now that was taken from a newspaper article from 1995
so I'm not sure if or when they may have resumed the Annual Festival in March of 1993 Tupac was arrested for
threatening a limo driver in California well and this is a story he brings up often in interviews he talks about like
why why do I need to carry a gun well because I've had guns pulled on me in the last several years and he always
talks about that I had a gun pulled on me by a limo driver well if you're making threats maybe that's why the gun
was pulled on you or maybe the gun was pulled on you and then you made threats I'm not I'm not really for sure
also in 1993 Tupac was charged with one count of felonious assault he was accused of attempting to hit another
rapper with a baseball bat at a concert at Michigan State University the incident reportedly began when Tupac
became angry and through a microphone he pled guilty in September of 94 to a misdemeanor in exchange for the
dismissal of the felonious assault charge he was sentenced to 30 days in jail 20
of which were suspended and he was ordered to perform 35 hours of community service well if there's trouble you know
Tupac's there you know that's what he does with the baseball bat straighten out the situation to be fair I mean this
he was a small guy he was what like five eight five nine uh maybe 150 160 pounds
yeah and I I want to be clear about something too because in a lot of these stories all right you know yes we're
pointing out that he pled guilty or that he was charged with this um there's like we see all the time
there's varying accounts of these stories of what actually happened who who was the problem who was not the
problem well and yeah I mean look Tupac is controversial but I think a lot of his issues came from I mean obviously
especially at that time and you're a celebrity and you're in and you're in the gangster rap world you got a Target
on your back for Trump right so I maybe he brought some of this on himself maybe it was brought upon him
and he had to defend himself I I don't know I wasn't there now I don't want to sound like some kind of jack wagon here
but for some reason I like this next story but but you got to hear it all the way through before you judge me okay I'm
already judging you before you judge me I uh in in Atlanta we should have never covered the case we got two uh Suburban
boys in a garage covering Tupac in Atlanta in late 1993 Tupac was charged with shooting two off dude Duty Suburban
policemen how the hell you like this story well I told you you got to hear it all the way through before you judge me
see you you I got one sentence in and you start judging I'm not mad at you the Atlanta police said that the shooting
occurred after two cars carrying Tupac in his party almost struck the two men in their wives as they crossed the city
street okay Tupac was arrested at his hotel shortly after the shooting he was charged with two counts of aggravated
assault and then released on fifty five thousand dollars bail now Tupac's lawyer
said that it appeared from investigators descriptions of the incident that the two officers started whatever gun play
that it had occurred you know so we have a who shot first situation According to
some accounts it was one of the officers who first Drew and possibly fired a gun
although no weapons were recovered the police say Witnesses gave this account of the incident Mark Whitwell uh he's a
police officer and his wife were crossing the street well well I wonder what color he is well Mark is a police
officer and he and his wife were crossing an Atlanta Street with whitwell's Brother Scott who was also a
police officer and his wife after the couples were nearly hit by the car this is the car with Tupac and and the other
car following them right um the two officers were both in civilian clothes at this point they argued with
the driver and the passengers of the car as well as the occupants of the second car that had pulled up so according to
some accounts Mark Whitwell pulled out a gun but it was not clear whether he had
fired it Witnesses said that Tupac then fired a gun three shell casings from a nine millimeter pistol were recovered by
police now do you want to hear about the aftermath of this incident yeah I'm trying to figure out why you like this
story okay we're getting to the part that I like all right okay it was later determined that the officers were drunk
and in possession of stolen guns oh great okay so as they cross the street a car with Tupac inside past them or
almost struck them after arguing Mark Whitwell shot at Tupac's car Tupac then shot one officer in the buttocks and
then the other he shot the other officer as well and I think this was in the leg
there's varying news reports about where he shot the guy Mark Whitwell was charged with firing at Tupac's car and
later charged for lying to the police during the investigation Tupac was charged with with the shooting as well
but the prosecutors eventually dropped all charges against both parties oh really yeah this is just like a really
bad horrible incident where you know drunk people stolen Guns by the police um yeah cops lying yeah unfortunately
nobody was seriously injured or or killed in this incident but it's just a whole bunch of of people Behaving Badly
um Tupac was supposed to be in the movie Menace to Society too uh the directors were twin brothers uh who had directed
some of I believe they directed some of pox music videos uh but after several fights on the set with the directors
Pock was fired well he this really upsets Pock and he he storms the set armed with a baseball bat right and he
goes after both of the twins after both of the directors uh he was later found guilty of this assault well let's uh
let's just put it out there for the listeners I mean all right were you a you know normally there was two camps
there was the Tupac camp or the Big E camp which which Camp were you in um I have to pick a whole Camp
um yeah I mean you could like both of them I'm just saying but you'd have to pick one over the other if I guess if I
could only choose one I was definitely a bigger Notorious B.I.G fan um I own more of his music than I did of
the death row West Coast guys I've always liked Dr Dre a lot uh so that's it's tough for me to say that I don't
really think of rap like that you know like um those the gangster rap was never my
thing I always liked kind of the more out there guys like like Busta Rhymes uh the Fugees I like um well we were pretty
young Cypress Hill we're also pretty young at the time right when like Tupac was coming on more of a hit that was
like middle middle school early High School yeah and we were probably still stuck in our grunge phase for a little
bit of that time but okay so if you had to pick favorite Tupac song what what would you pick I tell you what I you
know I only really liked the hits of Tupac but if I picked one and this is one that I would recommend to anybody
because I think this this song shows his talent you know like I said I'm not big
into gangster rap but uh but I like Dear Mama by by Tupac and I'll tell you why because I think I
think you could list like any style of music and still like that song like even if you didn't like rap I think you could
pick up that song and be like all right I get this I like it it's that good of a
song well I'm just throwing this out there and and I think one of the hardest things to do is to take a song
and remake it and make it better than their original right yeah I wanna and a a fabulous artist a very talented artist
uh Bruce Hornsby he had the song the way it is right and uh Tupac remade that and
made it into changes oh yeah I personally think that Tupac's song is better now I might get some hate mail
for that but I think he took a song to the next level and I think what he's saying is very socially relevant today
as much as it was back then another song that is socially relevant probably today
too is uh keep your head up that's another one that you should check out if you're not familiar with his work but
we'll get right back to that after this quick beer break foreign [Music] [Music]
we're back cheers mates cheers now I just want to paint a quick picture here for the younger listeners Captain
because we're only up to about 93 1993 in our timeline and we have a guy that that bust I mean the guy bust onto the
scene right he comes onto the scene in 91 and Tupac he was you know we have albums coming out he's in multiple
movies uh in such a short period of time this was a guy that became very famous very quickly he almost became it wasn't
even just like oh well he's a star or he's a superstar he almost became an icon instantly yeah and the the thing
that I remember being a younger guy was that it seemed like over the course of this two-year period that this guy was
just always on TV like I said the the the music the the movies well on the arrest in the arrest and that's what it
was you couldn't turn on MTV or you couldn't turn on the TV without hearing about something that either he he was
being accused of or an achievement that he made as far as his his acting or music career yeah his talents and then
he was in such high demand because he became so famous he was a huge star that everybody wanted to interview him so we
have this guy that has these let's say just you know blanket it and say legal troubles but the thing I remember the
most about him was that he would do a lot of interviews and in the legal troubles always came up during the
interview so you would get to hear kind of his opinion on some of these things which was not something that you always
saw with most stars you know most stars if if they're facing some kind of trouble they might try to hide from the
Limelight a little bit well right but I don't know how many stars were facing this much trouble Yeah well yeah that
and you know he was a he was a very young man at this point in his life but and I believe in in at least one
occasion they had used some footage from one of his interviews even against him at one of his trials yeah and I also
think you know uh to paint a picture to it as much as it was you know from The Outsider
looking in it would just be uh this guy's a gangster rapper right so he's he's a thug right and he was saying
stuff like thug life and stuff so he's just but when you really break down a lot of his interviews he was saying a
lot of things of substance this this guy was uh a character of a lot of substance
oh yeah yeah very very intelligent guy he might not have always shown that off of the stage
um I I think with his legal trouble what I see here is is a is like I said earlier he's a
very young man I think he was impulsive young man at times overreacting in situations yeah and I think he was
um forthcoming with the idea hey I'm I'm angry you know uh I I grew up in the gutters and nobody helped me and now
that I'm getting something I'm I'm angry well in 1993 this was in November of 1993.
um this was one of his more well-known legal troubles that he faced uh Tupac and others were charged with sexually
assaulting a woman in a hotel room of course he denied the charges according to Tupac he had had prior relations days
earlier with the woman that were consensual uh he says that his accuser claimed sexual assault after her second
visit to Tupac's hotel room and she alleged that secure Tupac Shakur and his Entourage had raped her
um so this thing this thing goes to trial uh the woman testified that she had had consensual oral sex with Tupac
at a nightclub uh four days earlier on the Dance Floor yes and we know that from watching an interview with Arsenio
Hall um where he talked about some of you know some of this case as much as he probably could being that he's still on
trial and possibly more than he should have yeah yeah exactly but she she says that at the hotel room that Tupac wanted
to share her with his friends who forced themselves on her so she said that Tupac
and three of his friends they quote set upon set upon me like animals as the victim addressed the court now
she's talking to the court right she's giving her statements Tupac stares intensely at her during her
statements uh he then he gets up and apologized to her he went on to say I'm not apologizing for a crime he added I
hope in time you'll come forth and tell the truth the defense said that she had made the accusations out of jealousy
when when she had seen Tupac with another woman right now one thing going on here at the trial
this was a very well-publicized trial like the captain said this is something he spoke about in interviews
um so there were a lot of Tupac supporters present at this trial in fact at one point a woman that was in the
courtroom she leaned over the rail and kissed Tupac on the cheek uh before this is just before a court officer ordered
her back to her seat I'm surprised she wasn't thrown out of the Court completely one again we we should put
this in a little more context too though I mean yeah as much as he has you know you know
the gangster rap songs he also had some very like we were talking about before these uh socially relevant songs and one
of the songs was keep your head up and and that song was all about it was a very effeminate feminist uh viewpoint on
on everything uh and very uh well if I remember correctly that's the song where you know he this some songs are a story
right right and the the if I remember correctly this is the song where he talks about the woman she's wearing
sunglasses or glasses and he knows why she's wearing the glasses because somebody had hit her yeah well he was
raised by a single mother and so it's very you know um stay strong you know if you're a single mother yeah you have a
lot more to deal with but stay strong it's worth it you know your kids are counting on you and and a lot of stuff
too with you know if you're in an abusive relationship you're worth more than that and and just things of that
nature well on the night of November 30th now this is 1994. uh this is still during
the trial for the sexual assault charges that Tupac was facing Tupac was robbed and shot five times by three men in the
lobby of the Quad recording studio in Manhattan Tupac stated that he had believed the robbery to be a setup uh
that he was set up for the attack and he he even made comments about you know they stole jewelry from me but why did
they leave you know my Rolex watch they didn't take that right uh Tupac you know think about this for a second
here he shot five times right right he he very quickly checked out of the Bellevue Hospital Center against
doctor's orders this was just three hours after surgery um and then in the day that followed he
entered the courthouse back at his trial in a wheelchair yeah well in the the big
suspicion here was you know they already had this East Coast West Coast battle going on so a lot of people thought that
the east coast rappers were responsible for this possible hit but also the other
thing too was uh Tupac you know the cops actually thought that they could solve this case but Tupac wasn't really that
Cooperative with them no no uh in fact uh well let's get back to the trial real quick and we'll go through this this
whole attack because that's a whole there's a whole other can of worms um in the end Tupac and his Road manager
this is Charles Fuller they were convicted of first-degree sexual abuse they were acquitted of weapons and
sodomy charges uh Tupac was sentenced to one and a half to four and a half years
in prison for sexually abusing this they call her a fan uh and he tearfully apologized to his victim but even as he
apologized he said that he had committed no crime right and he States this over and over and over and over again in
interviews so let's go back to this uh attack uh or the shooting that happened at the in the recording studio yeah and
you could almost call this an attempt on his life to be shot five times or shot at five times it almost appears like an
attempted murder but yes there was a robbery as well but in a 1995 interview with Vibe magazine
uh Tupac accused Sean Combs uh better known as puffy or Puff Daddy um also Jimmy henchman and Biggie among
others you know so there's other people he accused of this of setting this situation up
um of setting up the attack at the quad recording studios now eventually the the
the magazine would change the names of some of the accused assailants upon publication
um so you know it did not they did not implicate Biggie or Puff Daddy in this in this actual thing but that's who he
was accusing yeah but if you're a Tupac fan and you listen to probably at this time half of his songs
he started saying you you guys know what you did you know you tried to kill me he
puts it out in the songs now I had read some information that said that biggie had Entourage that was upstairs uh when
this incident took place um which from the way I understand it this is a large this took place in a
large building now I I don't know if that's for certain but the way that the story goes is that Biggie's Entourage
whomever they were they went down stairs to check out the incident and Tupac was
being carried out on a stretcher by this time and he's basically you know he's being Tupac he's he's shouting at
everybody he's angry at the situation of course he's just been shot five times and he's been and he's giving the finger
to anybody in the area now I do want to touch upon some things of here before we
get to the the situation that takes place in Las Vegas because there are a lot of people that believe that these
two attacks could be tied in together that they could have potentially been carried out by the same person or
persons or ordered by the same person or persons so in in the Los Angeles Times this is journalist Chuck Phillips now
Phillips would later allege that Sean Puffy Combs and Chris Wallace better known as biggie uh were aware a week in
advance that Tupac would be ambushed in the 1994 shooting in New York's quad recording studio
um this would be two years before he was shot and killed in Vegas and the quote says that they were advised in advance
of what was going to happen they did not know the assailants were going to be shooting in fact they were told not to
shoot um but what had happened apparently was that when this attack went down they
state that Tupac pulled a gun and went haywire and it was supposed to just be a severe beating that turned into this
this terrible shooting well again like we said there was a lot of these battle rap songs going on
between West Coast and East Coast a lot of trash talking uh back but look Tupac's from New York
Biggie's from New York um Biggie and Tupac were friends for a while uh biggie actually opened up for
Tupac multiple times now you know there's a lot of speculation on why they had the falling out uh possibly with
Tupac sleeping with Vicky's wife and things like that um but as far as their careers go having
that battle between each other and that hype again like we said in this uh two three year period you could not
turn on the TV without seeing Tupac Shakur on MTV MTV News same way with biggie because every time Tupac was
doing an interview he did probably a 100 times more interviews than biggie but every time he's bringing up Biggie's
name yeah if if there were going to be an Elvis of rap you could put Tupac and Biggie as the 1A and 1B you know
depending on who you talk to that was the biggest guy that was the king of hip-hop alright so who was trying to get
at one of the Kings right who was trying to get at Tupac so in Philip's article he also alleges
that the main Mastermind behind Tupac's setup was that Jimmy the henchman guy remember we mentioned him earlier but he
has connections to Puff Daddy correct and and he it's it's Jimmy henchman Roseman is is what I I don't believe any
of that is his full real name um but basically I'm in the wrong business man it states that Phillips the
the writer of the article had arrived at this conclusion after years of delving into the incident he had talked to men
who he believed were directly involved in the shooting and had uncovered papers documenting uh the incident from an S an
FBI investigation whose findings coincide with what the article was stating now the the FBI talked to some
criminals according to these documents and these criminals said that Jimmy henchman was involved
um I do I do want to be clear here though because um it this they would later the Los
Angeles Times would later retract this article because I think they I things because they're afraid they're going to
get sued yeah because I think it came into question how he may have um uncovered some of this evidence and
where he received some of these documents from uh yeah yeah the rumor is this that he received him from a guy
that had told some stories in the past and might have forged some things in the past so when you receive documents from
this guy you gotta Wonder did he Forge these particular documents themselves right now years later we have this this
person Dexter Isaac um he he was serving life in prison without parole for multiple Martyrs and
and armed robberies apparently he was working on releasing a book detailing his life in New York City you know on
the streets of New York City right as a Hitman and as muscle for uh this Jimmy henchman Roseman guy that we've been
talking about uh so apparently Jimmy henchman at some point finds his way into prison as well serving quite a bit
of time maybe even life for drug trafficking money laundering and witness tampering so we're seeing a lot of too
bad puffy didn't go with them well we're seeing a lot of Bad Dudes uh that are rumored to have been involved in this
setup that Tupac was talking about it was interesting that he didn't want to cooperate with the police but but I know
that's that's different it's a different time and it's also a different uh lifestyle uh the attack the attack
itself went like this according to Dexter he says that Jimmy the henchman had approached him and some of his
associates and they ordered he ordered them to Rob Tupac when he got to the studio that evening Dexter says he was
paid two thousand five hundred dollars cash to carry this out Jimmy told Dexter not to shoot Tupac but to catch him by
surprise and pistol whip him and then kick him around for a little bit and take his big biggest diamond ring
Dexter said that he saw Puff Daddy immediately after that conversation he saw puff with Jimmy and stating that he
made eye contact with puffy all right so then he took him out to dinner and they
they made love all night what was the point he so he made eye contact with a Powder Puff Daddy well what I what I
think he's stating here is that he's saying you know I was hired to carry out this robbery to go attack Tupac
um and before we get too far into this I do want to mention there are some accounts out there we talked about Tupac
being shot five times there are some accounts according to certain witnesses that Tupac might have accidentally shot
himself once or twice during this altercation sorry right but but come on you're getting
attacked and then you pull a gun out and you end up shooting yourself like I said
you shouldn't be carrying a gun if that's what's gonna happen I don't know for certain but according to some
witnesses they think that he might have shot himself okay again okay we but but what does this have to do with puffy is
what you wanted to know yeah but the thing is is this is now the second altercation that we know of that he
pulls a gun on and there's accidental shootings right and again too 2 000 bucks hey I want you to go into the
studio and Rob Tupac I want you to get his biggest diamond ring I'll give you two grand two grand really it seems this
guy beats people up with baseball bats it seems a little light too for a guy that that was pretty vocal about always
carrying a gun or a firearm you know right I would assume if I were this Dexter Isaac but but then again this
decks or Isaac guy's serving life in prison so maybe he's not all there maybe the elevator doesn't go all the way up
or maybe he just don't give a [ __ ] right and the thing is did you just cuss for
the first time on the show we're breaking down once oh man we start talking about Biggie and Tupac
okay so let's get back to Powder Puff Daddy right okay so how does and if you can't tell I don't like him
um well this these are just statements according to this Dexter Isaac guy right so basically what he's saying is that
shortly after he's hired by Jimmy like just minutes after he's he we have this conversation he hires him to take out
this Attack On Tupac that he sees Puff Daddy with this same guy that just ordered it right meaning that the guy
that ordered it could be some kind of middle man for Puff Daddy um so basically you want to put it past
him though I want to put it past him well Dexter claims his claims basically kind of confirm what other people were
already believing at the time that Puff Daddy was at least aware of this plan now Dexter says that there's no way that
Biggie or any of Junior Mafia uh were there that night uh because he because he knew Puff Daddy right and uh he knew
when he went into the studio that none of these other dudes were around he sees Puff Daddy with this Jimmy guy that
night and that's that's what he said all right so Powder Puff Daddy is maybe the
go-between guy to order the hit is what you're saying right and then let's be clear I'm I'm a
big biggie fan I'm a big Tupac fan big biggie fan I think you can be fans of both I don't think you have to choose a
side here uh well I'm choosing a side that I don't like Powder Puff Daddy that's fine we'll we'll go with that
right um so but so he he goes and describes this incident in some detail um he says that the initial head wound
that uh Tupac suffered uh was because of Dexter's associate who he labels as JD uh he pistol whipped Tupac remember this
was part of Jimmy's request um and then he says that Tupac reached for his gun and they were wrestling for
the gun fighting for the gun for a while before Tupac could pull it out completely now the gun during this
course it goes off well maybe that's how he got hit yeah well and he Dexter believes that Tupac
and these are his words these are not scientific words here but he says that he says that the gun went off and he
shot himself in the nuts um well this is where remember how I said there's varying accounts of you know he
Pockets shot five times right and there's some witnesses that say that pox shot himself once some saying he shot
himself twice well according to Dexter he shot himself once if you shoot yourself in the nuts that's like
shooting yourself five times you right but again it's it's not a scientific thing he might have just shot
himself in the pants you know what I mean uh or or the Bullet went straight through the screen yeah I I don't think
that Dexter is sitting there analyzing the situation I think it's probably a pretty quick attack there's probably a
lot of confusion and then you run the hell out of there yeah he probably didn't say Tupac pulled down the drawers
let me see what happened but he says that Tupac wouldn't quit fighting uh that he wouldn't quit fighting back
which I think is what we would all expect um they were trying to take all of Tupac's jewelry and that they shot him
several times after this because he wouldn't quit fighting one because they're only being being paid 2 000
bucks but maybe the thing was ah we want you to Rob him and whatever you get you
can keep he he goes on to state that it was well that basically once Tupac was at the
hospital that Jimmy was willing to send somebody or somebody's there to the hospital to finish the job right and
according to this guy that some of some of Tupac's guys caught wind of this or heard this rumor from somebody or I
think it was phoned into them from somebody they called the police and said look our buddy our dude was he was
attacked he was shot several times he's in the hospital and we heard the rumor that the guys that that set him up the
guys that try to kill him well they're going to come to the hospital and finish the job well this yeah this happens all
the time I mean I used to work at a bank right beside of a a hospital and if there was a gang-related shooting and
there was somebody that got hit right and they were in recovery that they had to
um guard that you know for maybe possibly retaliation or whatever and I believe that that stuff totally goes down you
know that there's probably several attempts on people in certain situations but it seems very like Italian mob movie
to me right you know I mean like you see that in a lot of the Italian mob movies
so anyway they phone into the police that you know you've got to send some people over here because this guy is
going to get killed we're going to have an incident at the hospital and possibly
one of the reasons why Tupac didn't want to stay in the hospital well I think you're on to something there Captain
because the rumor is this that the police were basically like yeah we hear you we're understaffed we can't we can't
send anybody over there to guard the door or or whatever it was going to be well and also in their defense I mean
you know how many times Tupac talked [ __ ] about the cops and and songs or in interviews and stuff like that and then
look if you're going to talk mad [ __ ] about the cops like I'm talking mad [ __ ]
about you know uh Puff Daddy right but you don't expect to be invited to this pool party right but I'm not going to
call up Puff Daddy and say hey can you produce a song for me and and do some dumb dances in my videos I'm not gonna
do that well and like you said you know that's probably good reason why too you know I wandered I wondered this because
why does Puff Daddy dance like a idiot well that's a whole nother that's a whole nother episode that's a whole
nother crime but but the thing here is Captain you know what I heard was that Tupac's buddies
called in this information to the police and like you said about Tupac he was let's say outspoken okay he was a very
outspoken guy I always wondered even if the police had shown up to watch his room could you think of how possibly
uncomfortable that situation could have been for anybody you know could you see a police officer showing up to his room
and then Tupac giving that dude stuff right yeah it's giving him the business giving him the business but like you
said um that is is the rumor why Tupac probably left the hospital at the very first chance he could right out of fear
as early as he could run out the door he did against doctor's orders shortly after the surgery well right you were
just attacked by these people and you might not know who they are but now you're getting rumors and you might not
have any nuts left foreign I'm turning into the captain I think you we're all out of nuts oh God I think uh
I think I think we drank too much I think we we need to wrap this up pretty soon okay so where are we at well before
we do uh we you know we should mention after this Attack On Tupac after the attempt and I'm gonna call this uh this
is an attempt on his life in my opinion this is a murder attempt I don't care if
people say that we were just supposed to beat him I don't care what goes down once you get there uh no this is what
took place right you don't care what you're told to do what you care is what actually happened exactly so the thing
here is POC has to go back to court he's still waiting you know for the end of this trial on the sexual assault case
um you know he's in a wheelchair we talked about he and his Road manager Chris Fuller were both convicted of
first degree sexual abuse and now Tupac has this lengthy prison sentence and I say lengthy because the other charges he
had faced in the past he received you know 20-day sentence or 30 days sentence or things were settled out of court so
Tupac began serving his prison sentence on the sexual assault charges at the Clinton Correctional Facility this would
be in 1995. now shortly afterward uh he released his multi-platinum album me against the world everybody remembers
that one Tupac became the first artist to have an album at number one on the billboard billboard 200 chart while
serving a prison sentence so he's got that going for him all right good accomplishment well in October of 1995
Tupac his case is up for appeal at this time but because he has considerable legal fees he could not raise the this
is what I've been told 1.4 million dollar bail that's that's a whole lot of bail
so after serving nine months of his prison sentence uh Tupac is released do in large part to the help and
influence of a one Suge Knight right who was the CEO of Death Row Records he posted apparently he posted the 1.4
million dollar bail in exchange for Tupac signing a deal with Death Row Records right and this was all done and
this was all handwritten I think it was like maybe a three or four pages it was pretty goofy deal and it was actually uh
a three record deal yeah and from my understanding like you said Captain this was all pretty closed door Hush Hush
type stuff for a long time wasn't it like we'll we'll post your extremely high bail
in exchange you're signing a record deal with us that doesn't it doesn't seem like a real and I yeah I don't know off
the top of my head who death row was actually distributed by but they possibly were distributed by Interscope
and like you said um you know now this is binding Tupac to a three album deal with Death Row
Records and now Tupac was scheduled to be to uh be released from prison because of the influence of a one Suge Knight
who will will have to he's a whole nother he's a whole another character in himself that we'll have to get into in
tomorrow four characters in one yeah so just to clarify what I was talking about
before the label that he was on you know we talked about Tupac being on Interscope well the sub label of that
was Jive right and all this contract did was basically make the sub label now death row it was still under Interscope
Records but this this this contract he signed was I don't know I mean if he would have wanna fight it in court he
probably Coulda could have beat it well and I don't know the details of the contract but he was
like like we said at the time he's a number one you know he him and Biggie are the two biggest guys so if you have
a record label and you can get one of these dudes on your label you're going to become one of the biggest labels and
the thing here is it it might be because I would argue like you said he might be
able to beat it in court because you almost could argue that under duress he signed this unfair deal let's say
um yeah who knows the stipulations of it but it's yeah I don't think it was uh I
don't think it was like an unfair deal but he was already running around in that Circle
uh rappers anyways and and death row was already coming up I mean they had the biggest producer in the hip-hop world Dr
Dre uh stoop Dogg was getting big at the time so and they were all friends so I think I think also part of it too was
maybe for the protect for the protection of it Suge Knight being a gang member turned bodyguard turn record owner
record label owner so I think maybe he wanted to join first uh forces with them for security reasons I mean he was just
shot five times okay well we'll get into the the night in Vegas the famous night
in Vegas uh and we'll get into a bunch of theories you know regarding who took down Tupac who was involved uh all that
tomorrow well and we got to start off with the idea of is he dead or alive all right thanks everybody for listening
thanks for telling a friend thank you for the five star reviews on iTunes we will see everybody back here in the
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Tupac Shakur was one of the biggest rap stars of the nineties. He sold millions of records and landed roles in hit movies. Tupac was always the rebel and this would cause him legal troubles. After serving time in prison Tupac signed a record deal with the infamous Death Row Records. On September 7, 1996 Tupac attended a boxing match at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. After leaving the match Tupac and his entourage attacked a man in the lobby. After the brawl, Tupac went with Death Row Records owner Suge Knight to go to a night club. On the way to the club their car was shot up while sitting at a stoplight. Tupac was hit with four bullets. He died six days later. To this day no one has been charged with his murder.

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Brief Summary

The episode details Tupac Shakur's life, legal troubles, and the events leading to his Las Vegas shooting.

Key points

Tupac's Early Life and Struggles. Exploring Tupac's challenging upbringing and the impact of his mother's struggles.
Tupac's Run-Ins with the Law. A look at Tupac's legal troubles and the incidents that shaped his life.
Tupac's Shooting Incident. In late 1993, Tupac was involved in a shooting incident with two police officers, leading to a complex legal battle.
Trial and Accusations. Tupac faced serious sexual assault charges in 1994, claiming the accusations were made out of jealousy.
The Quad Studio Shooting. In 1994, Tupac was shot five times in a robbery he believed was a setup, leading to speculation about East Coast-West Coast rivalry.
Tupac's Hospital Incident. After being shot, Tupac's friends feared for his life at the hospital.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I didn't like my life but through acting I could become somebody else.

Tupac reflecting on his struggles and the escape he found in acting.

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