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talk some true crime foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] legendary profiler Roy Hazelwood spent
22 years with the FBI 16 of them in the FBI's Behavioral Science unit he was truly an expert when
it came to criminal behavior and understanding why they do what they do in his book dark dreams Mr Hazelwood
explains the Criminal Mind as he sees it in one chapter he explains that it would
surprise most people that in his experience the two types of sexual offenders with the most characteristics
in common are the sexual sadist and pedophiles he says most pedophiles are not physically violent
while the sexual sadist is very likely to be so but there are striking similarities
Hazelwood offers some clarification before diving into the more than one dozen shared characteristics of these
two types of monsters pedophiles and child molesters are terms that are often used interchangeably however they are
quite different pedophile and psychiatric usage describes an individual who is preferentially
attracted sexually to a prepubescent child generally 13 years of age or less however a pedophile does not become a
criminal until he molests a child it is entirely possible for the pedophile to act out his sexual
preferences only in his mind or with a consenting adult or a paid partner who plays the
role of a child this is not criminal Behavior a child molester is a legal term used to describe any person who
sexually molest a child which most definitely is Criminal Behavior all child molesters are
criminals and a pedophile who acts out against a child consequently is a child molester
here is how he says the pedophile and the sexual sadists are alike both are ritualistic sexual criminals they have
highly developed fantasy lives and carry out their crimes according to a script both are highly motivated
their crimes give them deep satisfaction and they invest great amounts of time money and energy to their criminal
Behavior neither experiences remorse or guilt the sexual sadist believes that his
victims deserve to suffer the pedophile doesn't believe he's caused harm to the child both are highly
practiced at rationalizing their behavior and consequently are poorly motivated to change
both recognize the society abominates them and they take steps to study their deviant desires behaviors to better
understand them and to evade arrest they possess average or better intelligence and social skills they mesh well in
society friends and Associates are surprised and supportive of them when they are
identified their rate of recidivism is much greater than other offenders they tend to be model prisoners and
consequently are released more quickly and Having learned nothing from their punishment quickly begin practicing
sexual deviance again both are highly narcissistic most sexual criminals slow down with age
there is no known burnout age for these two offenders a less stopped such men will offend well
into their 60s or 70s they have greater numbers of victims than other sexual offenders
once these men begin to act out criminally they will assault until they are caught
criminal sexual sadists pose one of law enforcement's greatest challenges though rare they are intelligent men who
invest great amounts of time in planning their crimes and they easily blend into society
because they look like us John simonis better known as the ski mask rapist told Roy Hazelwood and Ken Lanning also
of the BSU quote there are a lot of steps you can take to help eliminate the average
criminal who is just spontaneous and Reckless and careless but if somebody wants somebody bad
enough it's nearly impossible to prevent they could have the best security in the
world they could have guards and dogs and everything else but if you have the time and the
patience the opportunity is going to arise when you can hit someone this is true crime garage
foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] 1963 The Windsor Star newspaper reported the following police and volunteers
continue to search for two boys last seen near The Plains of Abraham from my understanding Captain this is a large
park on the heights of Quebec City the two boys are young a little younger than the more typical ages of runaways
the two boys that we were talking about here were together that day at the park and the two boys are friends this is
Alan carrier age 10 and Michael Morrell age eight these two youngsters were last seen
leaving the plains on Grand alley that's a major road there the boys were seen leaving with some empty beer and soda
bottles that they had collected on that day which they evidently intended to sell
soldiers and about 200 volunteers scoured the area but found no sign of the boys nor any clues as to where they
may have gone off to now this was a little tricky to track down in fact the earliest report is from
a little more than 36 hours after they were missing and doesn't really offer much Insight on what the immediate
suspicions were in the case of these two but we can make some inferences based on
other cases we have covered and those would be one because it's two kids together the first thought might be that
they did in fact run away or maybe even more likely wandered off together and got lost secondly of course you would
always have to be worried that maybe one or both got hurt and again they are very
young so the concern level and the Threat Level would be high so the two were last seen on that Sunday
May 5th so by the time we see this report that came out on Tuesday giving that time passing and the searches for
the two that were going on immediately after they reported missing where once you may
have not have been so sure what happened with the two youngsters now you are starting to suspect the very worst and
let's compound that fear with the knowledge that it was discovered that another boy went missing and there was
less information about that boy this is a boy who was traveling by himself a little older than these two boys and he
was still missing as well from that same general area yeah so then the community
is probably going to start thinking that they possibly could be connected yeah what we have here in the first case
Captain is a boy named guy luckenwick he was age 12 who was visiting Quebec City
he disappeared on April 20th so this is like about two weeks before these other two boys went missing the boy was
traveling to Quebec City which he did so each week for a music lesson guy played
the clarinet they could not pinpoint exactly when he went missing but they did know that he made it to the lesson
finished the lesson and then left on foot afterwards but he never made it home searches by police for this boy two have
been in vain and because the amount of time that expired any Theory or suspicion that a ransom may have figured
into this boy's disappearance had been discarded by this time but he has an item with them I'm assuming he's taken
his own instrument to the lesson but it's also not a large instrument it's not like he has a saxophone or something
with him so clarinet could be pretty easily discarded by a predator and we say Ransom here and I know to most of
our listeners they're thinking oh that's very theatrical that's very much like the movies but we have to keep in mind
that our case our story today takes place back in the early 60s and actually kidnapping for ransom was much much more
common than it is today so much so that poor criminals often saw kidnapping as a
as their meal ticket as their lottery ticket so to speak but you have to factor in some other things here
none of these families are wealthy families right you know often when we have someone that is kidnapped for
ransom you can't squeeze blood out of a rusty nail you actually have to go after
somebody that has some money and you know we talk about the Lindbergh kidnapping for ransom considered to be
one of the at one time the the crime of the 20th century right that's a prime example and in fact that happened a lot
so much so that when looking into this particular story I was running into plenty of stories of a case that was
active about this same time where you have Frank Sinatra Jr kidnapped where they're looking for a ransom of 240
thousand dollars for his safe return now thankfully he was returned safely but it was so much more common back then
and what's interesting to me here Captain is that even in the 70s and 80s where we started to see an uptick of a
crime Trend that was changing of abducting children for sexual purposes right that they always
were commenting that you know we've set up a line at the family's home so that if a
ransom comes in we're ready to receive it to get the instructions to deliver this money and and get this kid safely
back and where in the the because of what was going on in the country in fact in the 30s 40s 50s and 60s Ransom very
common 70s and 80s that went away I'm guessing the penalty for kidnapping went up as it became more popular
but also what I find super interesting just back to the the Frank Sinatra Jr thing is
so you're going to kidnap the one of the most famous people in the world's kids to get a ransom but that famous person
is also connected to the most powerful organization in the world the mob doesn't seem like the
smartest idea yeah but you also have to understand that kidnapping was very popular because there was a much higher
percentage of poor people in our country back then so people were more desperate
back then I'm just saying you have to be very desperate to to go against the mob
so there were rumors swirling in this area about a maniac possibly on the loose and that he's snatching up little
boys and certainly even Beyond rumor that seems to be the shared feelings of the parents in this community in fact a
a newspaper snippet says that at the time police suspected quote that a sex maniac may have killed
the three missing boys because not a trace of them had been found despite an intensive search effort now
unfortunately things are going to get worse before they get better because on May 29th
in that edition of The Gazette a newspaper out of Montreal Quebec they featured an article about another
missing boy the article was titled fourth boy disappears in Quebec and goes on to say The Disappearance of a fourth
youngster in Quebec City and just a little more than a month was announced by police and the deputy chief termed
the situation disquieting he said now police are wondering whether the boys had been the victims of a Maniac the
latest boy to go missing is Perry Marquis age 13. Perry was last seen on Sunday May 25th in the afternoon leaving
a beach on the outskirts of the city right this is the wolf's Cove area of the St Lawrence River
Pierre's mother said that Pierre went to Sunday mass on that day he came home for
lunch and then he went to meet his cousin at Wolf's Cove to go swimming the cousin confirmed that Pierre not only
made it to the swimming Meetup at Wolf's Cove but also safely left afterward of course you hear River and a
possibility of drowning is maybe one of the first thoughts however in this case of course we said there is that sighting
of him leaving the the swimming hole on that day what kind of reminds you of the
Stephen King novel it and Derry Maine how a group of kids just start going missing and there's no explanation and
no no trace of them yeah and that's one thing that's interesting in this case and I liken it to the Oakland County
child killer case where it seems to be that the community and the parents seem to be fully aware of
what's going on and maybe a lot of the children were not right because you know news traveled different back then and if
you weren't dialed in most kids aren't paying attention to the news especially younger kids
if your parents are not informing you if your teachers are not informing you you're just unaware
and so with the Oakland County case one thing that is bizarre there is Timothy King who unfortunately was
snatched up and then later found dead the one of the saddest parts of that whole story is that just a day or two
before his parents sat him down and fully explained to him what was going on in their area at the time and it still
the threat still led to his demise now in that case there is a lot of suspicion that whoever was killing those kids was
posing as an authority figure and used that fake persona to abduct the children well it's hard to imagine how you'd
react as a child knowing that these kids just went missing and there's no answers
no clues and Pierre was even spotted walking in the direction indicating that he was likely on his way back home by
another individual now just to be safe though Captain they did in fact search the waters
in this area yeah and they also searched the waters around the other two disappearance cases as well three
victims two disappearances earlier all of these searches are turning up nothing there's
nothing in the water there's nothing on land nothing on the streets that they can find that are giving them any types
of leads at all so of course this is all super scary stuff but then look at the similarities in all
of these missing persons cases that to me heightens the the Fear Factor level for me because one they they took place
in just a short time span of about 40 days right four kids three separate incidents
and 40 days where we got missing kids all went missing on a weekend day all four boys disappeared between the hours
of 2 and 3 P.M or believed to have disappeared between those hours three of them were last seen in the same general
neighborhood the carrier kid and the morale boy were on the plains of Abraham again a huge Park that overlooks the
Saint Lawrence River and then Pierre Marquis the last to disappear is believed to have started on his way home
and to have cut through that same park The Plains of Abraham from the beach yeah well it's also a little scarier too
when you when you realize the monster's not coming out at night the monster is working within the day right and that's
where us we can sit here and easily go not only do we think it's connected because this is happening so fast within
a 40-day time span but also look at those similarities it's it's all very much the same Mo things going down about
the same time on weekends within the same hours as you said in broad daylight also a higher Threat Level of Predator
because this Predator has no problem going after one individual or multiple individuals at the same time well and
Guy luckenwick we're talking about the area where all went missing he was the first to go missing but was last seen on
Saint Denis or Saint Dennis Street which is some distance away from the other cases but again it is the same general
area of Quebec City now not that there was not a thorough investigation and not that the police didn't do everything
possible but really other than the where and when each boy was last seen there really was not much in the way of
investigating to this case you know they're really just simply looking for the physical boys themselves they had
nothing to lead them to what may have happened to them or or who may have taken them well again the last known
crime scene we have if you want to call it a crime scene is the last eyewitnesses of these individuals
because we don't have some area where where all these items from the boys were found and that there possibly was a
struggle or anything it's almost like all four boys just poof disappeared right they really didn't have any leads
of if the boys were in fact abducted this is not a situation where anyone witnessed an abduction heard a child
scream or spotted a suspicious tan sedan or creepy camper and of course this is a
little more than five decades before the big band the van movement that continues
to save lives to this day and if police had any leads at all well they were looked at and fairly quickly
determined to be dead ends that never produced any additional leads that is what it was like for most of the 40 days
or so that these four boys ages 8 to 13 were missing this until a concerned parent came forward with some very
interesting information thank you [Music] [Music] all right we're back cheers mates
cheers to you Colonel cheers to you Captain tall cans in the air to everyone out there aka the goat
let's get into this uh interesting story that comes forward brought by again a concerned parent to police
this is 45 year old Edward owlette he went to the police with this following story
concerning his 14 year old son who fortunately was safe and sound he told police that on May 25th his son
14 years of age was at Quebec City's very busy Central bus station when a man approached him
the boy lost a dime in a soft drink machine and was fighting with the machine to either get his soda or get
his dime back the man offered to buy the boy a drink the kid accepted then the man said if you like money so much or if
you are in need of more money I could offer you a job at some point in this conversation it
sounds like it may have been a fairly lengthy one the man showed the kid a bank book with a balance of 343 dollars
that's a lot of sodas and a dime a pop the man told the boy something to the effect of
I have a great deal of money or I have a lot of money and you can make a few dollars heck when you're a teenager and
somebody has a fifty dollar bill or a hundred dollar bill you think they're rich
well and keep in mind the equivalent of what they were seeking in the Frank Sinatra Junior Ransom 240 thousand
dollars that would be like two million dollars today so it's uh this certainly like you pointed out would seem like a
great deal of money to a youngster back then and then but you have to take this a step further and go well this is just
a bank book it doesn't necessarily mean that this guy's got any real money at all now the
man told the boy that he could offer him a ride and he wanted to take him back to
what he referred to as his Suburban home this boy very smartly refused the ride later he would say that the man
frightened him so instead he gave the man his address and phone number and told the man that he could talk to him
tomorrow so the kid goes home and he tells his parents what went down at the bus
station about being approached by this man who said he had money right offered some kind of job and then this guy wants
to take me back to his house bought me a Coke yeah and I wonder if in this story if
the man who you know if he is a dangerous man he's obviously using a ruse to try to trick this youngster well
but not not necessarily because the youngster is having a problem right his the machine either took his money so
this guy comes up and goes hey I'll buy the soda for you that's not out of the realm that that's not a ruse right
that's just uh adult walking by there used to be a soda machine where I taught lessons there's plenty of times
where kids would go by and they'd be pushing the button and go what are you doing oh the the machine took my money I
go oh here let me buy a pop that's not a ruse to you know to try to kidnap the kid I
was just trying to be a nice person to that kid so then they get to talking while I have
this job come back right there you go you know that's what I'm talking about the if this if this guy in fact is
looking to pick up this kid if he is a danger the ruse is offering him a job right and I'm what I'm pointing out is
I'm wondering if in this conversation we know that the boy said he exchanged he gave his phone number and he gave his
address when the man then says offers to drive him back to his quote unquote Suburban home I'm wondering if this guy
was smart enough to make it sound like they both lived in the same general area to kind of put the boy at ease well I'm
heading home anyway why don't you just join me in my car right back to my Suburban home but also
again this creep could live downtown but you use the term suburb Suburban home so again if the kid doesn't go with
him he is now telling everybody well he said he lived in the suburbs correct armed with this information the parents
are going to set up a little sting operation of their own so the man called the house and the parents had the boy
answer the phone when the man called the next day so a meeting time and place were set up for the boy to meet the man
but what happens is Edward owlette drove his son to this meeting once there Edward confronted the man
demanding to know why and what the man wanted with his 14 year old son the man laughed and told the father that
it was the boy's idea that the two were to hang out together saying that the boy
wanted to go to the circus that he wanted someone to take him to the circus and this man said that he would do so
so Edward then tells the man there are three boys missing right now and I'm not letting my son out of my sight
while there Edward wrote down the license plate number on the man's vehicle and then he gives this
information to the police who promptly worked very hard to track down this vehicle the man fortunately was located
and arrested but unfortunately this was on May 27th this would be the day after Pierre
Marquis was reported missing remember he was number four to go missing and he went missing on May 26th right
so the man they arrested who was according to this man and his son trying to meet
up and make some kind of work arrangements with a 14 year old boy this was a Leopold Dion police very quickly
realized that considering all involved they were very likely in for some really really bad news and that's because not
only did Leopold have a lengthy police record but he had a very dark and violent past can you get into that a
little bit yes Leopold Dion had been arrested multiple times for multiple charges here's some
detailed background information on this guy he was Leopold Dion of Quebec City contracted tuberculosis
as an infant and he spent most of his first 11 years of life in an institution run by nuns his father and mother they
would visit him on a weekly basis his father was a Canadian Army Sergeant when he was cured of this illness he was
then released from the institution so after 11 long years of living in an institution for the first years of his
life he has finally sent home now once he is there he doesn't walk into a happy home because just four days
later his mother and father separated and because of this split they placed him in an orphanage that makes
would have to make you wonder as a kid my parents were together this whole time I come home four days later they get a
divorce yeah so that's the unfortunate childhood of Leopold Dion but what it's going to
lead to is that violent past that we referenced in 1937 at the age of 17 Leopold was charged with gross indecency
and sentenced to four months in jail two years later in 1939 he was charged with attempted murder of a young woman
but was acquitted due to the lack of evidence when he was 20 years old he was convicted of rape and attempted murder
so now we have this guy again having this ruse to have some kind of relationship
some kind of connection with this kid and now we know that he likes to whip out his dinghy he now has an attempted
murder charge and then uh attempted murder charge and a rape charge against him so when he is 20 he is then
convicted of rape and attempted murder wow so you know I know he's acquitted for the
first charges based off of a lack of evidence but what you're seeing here is he's a possible reoffender who is very
violent and his crimes seem to be sexually based now for this conviction Leopold was sentenced to life
imprisonment with a recommendation that he never never be paroled and this shows
you how far we are going back here in time and how old school this is but not only did he receive that life
imprisonment conviction right in sentence but he also received plus 10 lashes oh so they would like hit him with a
cane or yeah whip him or something of that nature you know we're gonna lock you up for life but before we do so
we're gonna have to beat you up pretty good well I mean look you have you're gonna have some issues anyways if you're
going to be isolated for that long you have really no 11 years that's the amount that he's going to be
underdeveloped as far as Society is concerned that's going to be that's a big gap to try to make up and
and when you look at a picture of him he looks pretty normal seems to be a non-threatening individual
maybe maybe from the side profile that he he looks maybe a little meaner or scarier from the side profile I think
that in lies like the issue with this type of case and when you hear when you're let's say that that the children
knew that kids were going missing and they're hearing the rumors from their parents and from the community that
there's a sex maniac on the loose right who's snatching up children well a child's mind will assume that they can
see that they would be able to identify this monster when they see him right and
so when you have this guy Leopold Dion who he looks like the a regular guy the average Joe he puts together this
Persona that he has a job or at least something to offer these children and because he looks normal and he has a car
and he dresses normal they're somewhat easily tricked now they're tricked into just joining him for maybe a ride or or
a helping hand but it's again it goes back to the idea of a sex maniac is on the loose these
kids think that they would be able to spot that somehow right and as Roy Hazelwood pointed out in our trailer
earlier today from his great book The Dark dreams he says you know it's always a shock to
society when these people are outed or when they're found out because they're usually respected people in the
community or they fit into the community at least visually and the fake persona that they put out
there and they're also hard to detect because they look like you and I well so this is
the six C's and I didn't obviously grow up in the 60s but even in the 80s if you're over at somebody's you're over at
your friend's house or something and their parents told you to do something you did it you you were taught to obey
adults you were you were taught taught that adults are in charge and you are not so that becomes a tricky issue when
you're trying to tell your kids hey look you got to watch out because there's somebody that's taking kids away from
their homes away from their families but at the same time these kids are told over and over you listen to adults you
speak when spoken to certain things like that which were more prevalent in in the
60s than they obviously are now now people are saying hey if you see a stranger I don't I don't care
how old they are or they're not your your boss but you'd have these you'd even have them situations where kid
might get in trouble um at somebody's house and maybe even get spanked by the other parents and
that was more commonplace so when you have somebody that kind of looks like their friend's dad or or a dad
for all we know the guys driving up to these people going hey you're not supposed to be
walking on this street you're not supposed to be walking alone getting in the car I'll drive you home yeah that's
correct and so when he is 20 years old he's incarcerated for life imprisonment for this very violent crime
and he was sent off to Montreal's Infamous Saint Vincent De Paul penitentiary while there he was considered to be a
model prisoner however during his stay while they were able to confine him they were never able to treat any of his
mental emotional and sexual issues records show that there was one part-time psychologist working at this
Penitentiary during the entire 16 to 17 years that he stayed there because of his good behavior and despite the
judge's recommendation that he never ever be paroled Leopold Dion was in fact paroled in 1956 but he wasn't out too
long before he was at it again because just 40 Days Later four zero days later he was once again charged and convicted
of gross indecency and returned to prison right but how did he get that out in the first place he got paroled well
maybe we need to stop calling these sentences life sentences if they're if they're probably a couple years you know
like come on give me a break it's either life or it's not life and and and then to have a
individual like this with with such a heinous crime to even have the possibility of early parole that so he
spent two more years at that Saint Vincent De Paul Penitentiary before being transferred to the Kingston
Penitentiary this would be Leopold's first chance to truly receive some psychiatric help
starting in 1962 he would meet with the prison psychiatrist once a month and somehow he managed to be paroled once
again well yeah and I don't get that with the two violent crimes one well actually three violent crimes we got two
attempted murders basically and then we have a rape charge you could throw away the the him him showing his dinghy to
anybody I don't know if that matters but those violent crimes there's no way he should have been pearled well and gross
indecency is kind of a blanket charge it's uh we don't always know exactly what that charge means I'm going to
assume it says dingy out that he's guilty of it's like back in the day they would charge you with gross indecency
they would charge you with sodomy they could charge you with in certain crimes larceny but that that usually meant a
whole wide array of possibilities whereas today you see at least here in the states the United States we often
have charges that that even sound very specific to the point where you hear what someone's charged with you you have
a pretty good idea of what it is that they did yeah I mean some of them get confusing
now you know I I don't like the the charges where um you know I've had a friend where he
he's considered a sex offender because he was drunk and he was peeing by a school the school wasn't operating at
the time it was at night but ends up getting further charges because he was basically exposed because he was peeing
um by a school I don't really think that makes a lot of sense but so what so now
we have four kids that went missing I do I do want to address that for a second I
don't necessarily fully agree with that charge I guess and I don't know the complete situation my argument has
always been in regards to that that the what the reason why you charge someone in that manner is because if you didn't
then now that becomes the excuse that is accepted you know across the board that
oh anybody can just whip it out wherever they want and you just claim oh I was urinating so it's okay yeah I I totally
agree with that so so we have four four boys missing all roughly around the same age all
roughly in the same area we have now this guy Leopold that has basically we we weren't for sure if
there was a ruse to get this kid alone but now we know because they they went and confronted
him and now we know that this guy has a a really bad past and this guy definitely has to be on the suspect list
for these four missing boys that's exactly right so what you have here is Leopold Dion was paroled in September of
1962. these boys well they start to go missing in late April and then in May of 1963. so police have this complaint from
this man about Leopold trying to pick up his son but really in regards to the actual four missing boys themselves they
really do not have a lot connecting Leopold to their disappearances now there are several really smart things
going on on the side of law enforcement at this time one it doesn't take a seasoned
investigator to look at this guy Leopold Dion and go okay he has a rather violent
past that involves rape and attempted murder heck he raped and stabbed a school teacher and left her for dead so
really the only reason he didn't get charged with murder likely first degree murder is that the
poor woman survived the attack yeah but we only have charges with Leopold against females not young boys the judge
then recommends a life sentence for Dion the judge gave a strong recommendation that he never be released so if we are
concerned that like the paper said that the boys may be victims of a Maniac well
this might be the maniac that we are looking for secondly we have a complaint that he may
have been trying to pick up a boy oh and his gross indecency conviction the victim there was an underage boy now
Presto Chango this guy that we just picked up is our number one suspect so what was really smart on the end of law
enforcement is that Leopold is actually arrested and charged with a parole violation so they can simply hold him
until he is adjudicated for those charges so LD Leopold Dion you ain't going anywhere until we sort this out so
talk or waste away until your trial when and where you will be found guilty of said parole violation and sent back to
prison and regardless how this missing four boys situation shakes out you might still be in prison for the rest of your
days thank you [Music] thank you friends for joining us here in the garage join us back tomorrow so much
more to get to until then be good be kind and don't litter [Music] foreign

These Damned Hands /// Part 1 /// 478

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This week we go up to Canada to explore some older cases from the Sixties, Seventies and Eighties. All of the cases are centered around two main perpetrators. Our story starts off with several missing persons cases. Join us as we take a look at some fascinating crime stories that you likely have yet to hear.

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Brief Summary

Four boys went missing in Quebec City in 1963, leading to a police investigation and the identification of suspect Leopold Dion.

Key points

Welcome to True Crime Garage. Hosts Nick and the Captain introduce the show and thank listeners for joining.
Understanding Criminal Minds. Profiler Roy Hazelwood shares insights on sexual offenders and their characteristics.
The Disappearance of Four Boys. A chilling account of four boys who went missing in Quebec City over a short time span.
The Job Offer. A man offers a teenager a job, raising suspicions about his intentions.
The Sting Operation. The boy's parents set up a sting operation after he shares his encounter.
Leopold Dion's Dark Past. Leopold Dion's violent history is revealed, connecting him to the missing boys.

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0:56WatchNov 8, 2022

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