The Tragic Murder of Savanna LaFontaine Greywind | Episode 330 | Morbid: A True Crime Podcast | Forensic Files

hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this is something it's morbid [Music] it's morbid it definitely is uh I was
more speaking about this life like yeah and you know what I think it's like this
is morbid but we we crawled to the Finish Line the last couple weeks man it has been
[Music] it's a week I feel like we're saying that like more often than not yeah and I want to know like what deity we
pissed off yeah something something's awry we're gonna have to cleanse a lot of energy out of here because
holy [ __ ] it was it was literally like oh is it done now like can we still really like Ram bam thank you ma'am bang
bang boom holy [ __ ] [ __ ] everything oh my God what's happening we so you might
notice that we sound a little uh not CR well probably a little crispy right now we probably sound a little crispy
we don't really sound you know pretty as smooth as we have been that's because we
are recording remotely because Ash is still down with the Rona my god dude the fact so I feel fine now like so I got
kovid last week yeah yeah I don't know days are like seven days ago or something
yeah it's been I think I'm on my sixth day right now and I'm still testing positive which is really [ __ ]
annoying because I feel totally fine I'm ready to go back to your house I'm ready
to see my [ __ ] nieces ready to record in person like I'm done with Rona I'm also just ready to like walk out of my
[ __ ] house I was gonna say just get out of the house probably yeah I'm definitely a homebody but this has
really tested my limits of that you've really bodied your home this last week and you're you're over it I almost
become like a sarcophagi that I'm just like stuffed in to get me out and then as so we got the Rona which it you know
we don't love recording remotely in fact all my fellow podcasters who do that like on the reg I give you a lot of
props because it's hard it's not really enjoyable it's hard really difficult and
I feel like it's you know we like fake that connection really well in person but we do but we can't fake it over
there man it's true your pheromones aren't here to work off of and I don't know what to do
I don't know I also just feel weird because I'm like in my bedroom has to work in my bedroom and I'm just in the
Pod lab alone yeah it feels weird to be like looking at it it's very weird but it's been a weird couple weeks
because after so we were dealing with that we were just trying to get the schedule down you know you guys got a
fun John episode because you know at first Ashley was like super sick like this wasn't like a asymptomatic covet
experience like I had I was totally asymptomatic Ash was like down for the count oh like if you really want to see
how sick I was I'll post the picture on The Morbid Instagram that I sent Elena of my hair it's pretty amazing oh my God
because I was in bed for four days yeah I knew yeah I could tell that you were super sick and that's we just it wasn't
gonna have even remotely I wasn't gonna ask her to to sit for an episode that would have been insane so luckily John
happened to be sitting next to me on the couch and he was like I'll step in and I
was like how long have we been asking for that to happen I have been begging him to do an
episode and he's like no and his his whole thing was always no everyone will stop listening because as my voice is
terrible and I'll suck and everybody will be like wow this sucked and I was like oh my God
a very soothing voice he does to me I'll tell you that much but it was fun he actually had a lot of fun like recording
and it was nice like just to sit with him and hang out do this together so that was kind of fun that was very cute
but I was get out of my seat Josh get out of my seat that's my chair that's my creaky chair he did say at the end he
was like you know what Ash you got to come back because this is nice this was his one and done he's gonna come back
we'll make him do another one I think well I saw somebody say that now they wanted an episode of me you Andrew and
John oh my God that would be chaos yeah I feel like we could get into trouble I know it would be fun though
but I think we should but I think he was helpful with that like thank goodness he
stepped in so that was able to happen it was fun it was like a fun little different thing to do
um and then like a couple it was a day I didn't I don't know what day it is anymore I don't know what time is it's a
flat circle but very shortly after that uh one of my daughters my youngest one had a seizure out of nowhere and it was
the scariest thing that has ever happened to me in my entire life so that threw things off a little bit
because it was also around the same thing that was happening at the same time was my twins had their dance
recital which I know it's like oh it's a dance recital but it's like they've been
working really hard like all season for it they were so excited about it so we were trying to make sure that we made
that super normal for them kept that going while also dealing with you know what had happened and I mean we're so
lucky because my mother-in-law lives with us so it was a huge help because as soon as it happened really fast like she
told me her neck hurt her lips turned blue and she just collapsed and luckily I caught her and then she it happens
when I was holding her but John I called 9-1-1 John called his mom like on the cell because we were upstairs and she
was in another part of the house and was like you gotta come help she ran over and she was able to stay with the twins
while we were able to go to the hospital so it's like I was trying to sit there and be like
let's look at the positive she's okay like they told me they there's no damage and that they don't think it's like an
epileptic disorder but like we'll keep an eye on her but I was trying to think of all like the
positives because I was like okay it's been a really shitty couple weeks and if I just focus on how terrible this is
It's Gonna like break me so I was like I have to think you know I'm very lucky that my mother-in-law lives with us and
then I can like she's right there so she was able to watch the girls like I'm lucky she's not you know something worse
didn't happen you know it's all that stuff but um I feel like this won't be an ongoing
thing yeah and they really do believe it won't be so that's a good thing but and
everybody's been so sweet like all the people who sent like their well wishes and like you know did did witchy things
to like you know like made offerings and stuff to like it was just everybody was
so sweet and we really appreciated it and I just wanted to tell you guys that but like thank you for being so awesome
and understanding that this was something that just like nothing else mattered at the moment no not at all but
it'll put it into it puts a lot of [ __ ] into perspective I can tell you that much
yeah I would think so I hate that I like couldn't be there because I even like being away like put it into perspective
for me oh my God no like I need to be there it just makes you think like because immediate like thank goodness
she was okay and that's all I could think of was like okay I'm just this is all that matters right here like I got
seeing her face on FaceTime today I was like about to burst if it's yours and then I was like that will be frightening
for you stay away what is going on but luckily everybody's on the mend everybody we're
gonna get through this whole thing uh yeah we're gonna keep getting the episodes out and yeah thanks again for
being so patient and so nice and kind about it we appreciate it you guys are rock stars you truly are
so yeah that was the super duper fun week we had but guess what it doesn't matter because here we are and it's time
to record Another more banana Michelle let's go well today we are going to be talking about the case of Savannah
LaFontaine greywind so I think we should just dive right into it if you're ready I'm ready I
think I know this name so but I don't know if I know the details yeah I had heard of um this case because it's like
pretty recent but I hadn't heard all the details and I do just want to let people
know that um this is a case of like kidnapping and a very intricate way of going about it
and there's a lot of mention about domestic abuse as well so eek just to be aware of that okay
so Savannah LaFontaine greywind was a young woman born on August 9 1995 making her a Leo and obviously I had to dive
into that because you know who I am of course so the three category or not categories the
three qualities that I feel like really summed her and Leo women in general up were strong-willed determined and
fiercely loyal love it all of those traits sound like they definitely described her to a t so she grew up in
North Dakota she was like super duper close with her family her parents nor better and Joseph graywind had four
children together uh there was Savannah and then she had two brothers Casey and Joe and a sister Kayla
now this family was an indigenous family and in most sources you'll see that they're from the Spirit Lake uh Sioux
Tribe but norbetta Savannah's mother actually belonged to the turtle Mountain tribe oh okay from what I've read it's
actually not super common from people or for people from different tribes to marry so I was I kind of looked into
that a little bit but everything I read said it's not common so I would be interested to hear if we have any Native
American listeners or indigenous listeners that want to elaborate on that because it was something I was
interested in but couldn't find a lot of information on that's really interesting
I didn't know that I didn't even know that was a thing who knows maybe I'm wrong maybe that's
just like what the internet says and they could be wrong you never know yeah but because we're focusing on Savannah I
did want to talk a little bit more about the tribe that she was a part of which again is the Spirit Lake Sioux Tribe
okay now this tribe actually used to be known as The Devil's Lake Sioux Tribe and they've actually changed their names
a couple of times but in the early 90s they officially changed it to Spirit like Sue
um and when the tribe name was changed so was the name of the reservation that they lived on originally it had been
known as Fort Totten Indian Reservation but now it's simply known as the Lakes the Spirit Lake Sioux reservation okay
now you might be saying Elena why did they change the name from Devil's Lake that sounds so rad it sounds very metal
but I was like you know what what is the the newer name the new name is the Spirit Lake Sue that sounds so soothing
it does like it just it immediately makes it's like peaceful sounding it is I agree with you well and there was like
an actual reason for it too because basically the people who belong to this tribe they actually don't think that
Devil's Lake should be called Devil's Lake oh and actually I don't think the devil is really a part of Native
American culture at all like it's not like Catholicism or anything like that where there's like a a devil yeah like
character kind of thing and when the settlers first stepped on the scene they actually misunderstood the name when it
was translated for them and they thought that the translation of the Native American words and I'm gonna do my best
with this me walk on they thought that meant Devil's Lake when actually it translates more into pure water source
or you could say sacred or Spirit instead of pure oh that's much better so yeah their settlers go just [ __ ] [ __ ]
up all over again yeah so the reason why the Native American people considered this Lake sacred or
like a spiritual place was actually because of the belief in a Cryptid called the again gonna do my best here I
think it's Gila is a gigantic female serpent who was said to live in the nearby lake and
she had one on her mind chaos oh I love it so apparently she's got these massive claws she's got fiery
eyes this like loud booming voice that the Native Americans compared to thunderclaps and she also has this large
kind of diamond like gem on her forehead oh okay this sounds horrifying it is and
it's only an even more horrifying because it is said that whoever looked into her
eyes would either lose their own sight over time or just become insane wow now even if you approach this Beast
while she was not awake like if she was sleeping just seeing her with your own eyes could mean that your entire family
would perish oh my God yeah like she is for real and this is just kind of one version of the story there's like a
bunch of different kind of versions that have come out over the years and different tribes have different beliefs
but from what I could find this seemed to be like the Sue people's belief wow that's wild Cryptids are wild man it's
our absolutely crazy yeah we're definitely gonna get into more Cryptids oh yeah I've actually been working on a
couple while I've been sick yeah I love it oh yeah your entire family would perish but there was one way to kill her
to do so you would have to shoot a medicine arrow through the seventh spot from her head because that's where her
heart is and if you're able to do this then you get that diamond gem on her forehead which is called the ulon [ __ ]
I believe and if you get that you become the greatest wonder worker within the tribe wow I love this I'm like but if
you see her then your whole family dies so like you become this great wonderworker but did your whole family
die yeah like is your family thriving or not or not no so that was just like a wild
yeah it was just like an interesting aside that I thought would be cool to mention especially because she comes
from this tribe so like let's get a little information on it yeah it's part of the culture
it's part of the culture and thank you for saying that because it really leads me perfectly to my next Point that's
what I'm here for that is what you're here for so Savannah's culture was something
obviously just like most of us that is incredibly important to her and was important to her now her Dakota name
which is I believe the name that your tribe gives you um is where Thunder finds her oh I love
that it's not beautiful I feel like thunder kind of like plays into this whole thing where yeah
like Cryptid had like had a booming voice like thunder and then there was a couple other variations of the story
where there was like this big fight between her and this other Cryptid and it was like the like Thunder God all
this craziness that's cool I love that yeah I was like oh that's really ironic that that is her given name yeah another
thing that I'm super interested in but couldn't find a ton of information on is Dakota names I was like I kept trying to
be like well what is that and then everybody just kept giving me the definition for like Dakota of a name
yeah a Dakota name so let us know about what I was asking that's you've pressed an incorrect key
thanks so much I know what Dakota is you know but something that Savannah was really focused on in the last couple of
years that she was with her family and something that was really bothering her was constantly hearing that Native
American and Indigenous women were disappearing Without a Trace or turning up murdered all over the world but the
murders are still unsolved because they're simply just not getting enough attention yeah according to Savannah's
act which unfortunately and fortunately we'll talk about later in the episode quote indigenous women face more
violence than any other group and at least 84 percent of indigenous women have been the target of sexual or other
violence in their lifetimes that's so sad 84 of indigenous women have been the target of those crimes and how isolating
it must feel to have no one helping and that's the thing and again thanks again because that leads me perfectly
into my next point the problem which honestly is something that we've touched on in the past I think in your episodes
that you did on Willie Pickton you gave us so much great information about the problem and what we can do about it but
it's just that these cases are not investigated they're not reported on no there's all kinds of arguments about
which jurisdiction they belong in because certain like the the actual like police departments think that it's not
in their jurisdiction and then there's like Tribal Law force and just like so much
yeah yeah it's just but the real problem that we need to focus on is that this community
has been so marginalized and people need to actually spread awareness which hopefully will lead us to actually
ending so much of this loss that we're going through like these women are just Vanishing from these tribes and nobody's
talking about it and again it's just like they're isolated from everything because it's like they're screaming out
for help and no one's helping in that thing and it's like when it when are we gonna do something about it but I feel
like a lot of people think like I don't know what to do about it so but there are a ton of resources which I'm sure
you're going to tell us too so just people putting me perfectly into my name here I am here I am you a great partner
I'm just ushering you through yeah you really are no I actually have like a ton of great sources that I'll link in the
show notes and we'll talk a little bit more about those at the end but cool I just want to tell Savannah's story first
and then I hopefully like hopefully I can share those in you guys and us and all all of us weirdos together can
actually do something about them yeah absolutely also sorry if I'm like not being clear
I'm on a lot of cough medicine I think like going around my points a little bit oh no you sound great all
right cool but just wanted to get that out there in the beginning I think we're in a mutual like brain fog like just
together like a community brain fog I think that we're all in a in a place of what the hell is happening brain fog
yeah we truly are all right so on with the story let's go back in the summer of 2017 there was a lot going on in
Savannah's life she was living in that apartment with her parents and her brother but she was also eight months
pregnant and expecting a baby girl that she and her boyfriend were planning to name Haisley Joe oh oh
adorable the cutest name ever now the baby was due in September and in the meantime the family was just trying to
get everything together that they needed to get now Savannah had just celebrated
her 22nd birthday she had also just become a CNA also got a new job working with the elderly actually her long-term
goal was to become a registered nurse and continue taking care of the elderly so she was really not doing anything
doing absolutely everything doing the most like the most and on top of that she was planning on getting a new
apartment with her boyfriend Ashton good for her like just like starting their lives
together yeah like you said she was determined she was hard working it's like very clear it's so clear she was
like she was truly a Leo woman yeah so Ashton her boyfriend was also a member of the Spirit Lake Sioux Tribe and from
the sounds of it like everybody was really excited for the two of these guys to start their family together I love
that they you'll love this they had known each other since middle school and they
started dating in high school meaning at the time they were expecting will hazley
Joe they had already been together for about seven years oh my God stop it right like that's that's a fairy
tale it is you know and when someone found out that she was pregnant Ashton actually was living and working in
Minneapolis which is about four hours from where she and her family were in uh Fargo North Dakota I can only imagine
that that would add like so much stress to the situation oh yeah Ashton like immediately started putting the family
first and considered the new baby on the way uprooted everything and moved closer
so that they could all live together oh man that's apparent like it just sounds like the two of them are really figuring
things out and it's like I feel like like reading about this I could almost just feel like the excitement and like
the room I was sitting in just like buzzing with like all this got to happen and like not knowing what to expect but
just like ready for such an exciting time well and they're just like it's clear that they were real Partners yes
like you can tell when people are just ready to like go through it all together have already been through it together
and are just like only thinking of of their family and what they need to do to make it Thrive and it seems like the two
of them were on the same page there they totally were and then just to like point
out Savannah as well everybody was like oh my God she's gonna be an amazing mom like she's super good with kids she was
really really involved in she was like a huge part of her niece and nephews lives
she literally was like helping raise them oh my God I love it obviously this next like sentence is
going to really bum everybody out because her obituary would later point out those kids were a huge part of her
life and everything she did revolved around them so you know she would have been this amazing mother
absolutely and just like the fact that like that's like her niece and nephew and she's 22 but everything she doesn't
revolves around them like that tells you exactly who she is that's how you are with the with your nieces though so I
can love my nieces and that's why how I feel about you that you're gonna be an amazing Mom oh my God stop it it's true
we have a lot of stuff to do before that happens but when it happens you'll be great I'll be vibing oh my God in Drew
oh and they are obsessed with him oh my God your youngest could you quickly just
tell that oh my God after uh after she got out of the hospital um the girls my mother-in-law had taken
the girls while we were in the hospital to get her like little stuffies just to cheer up and she got the two stuffies
and I asked her what are you gonna name them and she held one up and said I would like to name this one Drew Drew
and the other one cat food don't have cats like she only knows she only knows Franklin and Lux and I love
that she sleeps with Drew Drew every night now she sleeps with Drew Frankie and Lexie yes
it really just TT's missing I guess we have to get her ATT stuff to get a TT stuffy I'm like listen I'm the OG of all
this squad I love it Drew Drew is the sloth yeah like not not in a bad way just like he's
like it makes sense I feel yeah like because I love sloths I love Drew there's so many fun facts about sloths
we're digressing but but Savannah is that kind of that kind of Aunt you know where you're just like you when you
decide to do it if you decide to do it you're gonna be amazing at it you can tell
exactly now at the time of that Savannah and her family were living in the apartment
complex unfortunately so were two actual pieces of human ship piles named Brook Cruz who was I believe 36 but her age
varies from 36 to 38 and her boyfriend Willem uh William excuse me Holland who was 32. oh
they are atrocious they had been dating for about three years at the time they were in the apartment but their
relationship was completely volatile since they had moved into the build into the building around May of 2016 there
were countless fights that would literally like shake the ceilings of the apartments beneath them oh and it wasn't
a huge complex there were only seven units within this building so the neighbors knew where the sounds were
coming from and they were constantly calling the cops to check things out cops were coming and going from the
apartment at all hours and unfortunately there were countless domestic disputes that turned physical oh that's awful
it is on one occasion William actually threw Brooke into their bathtub and later pleaded guilty to assault oh my
God now when that happened a no contact order was also put into effect but just six months later the police were called
to the apartment again for another disturbance report and sure enough William was there when he should not
have been it's like how do you do that to someone that you supposedly care about I have no idea I have no idea how
people do any of the things that this specific paragraph is going to cover but oh geez because this is really rough
just so everybody knows now the the cops get there and they're like you're not supposed to be here like
you're in trouble again but it would not be the only time that he would violate these orders
he and Brooke actually both had paths with the legal system but they didn't seem to like use that to better
themselves in any way after the multiple run-ins that they'd gone on they both had children that they didn't see and
didn't pay child support for cool Brooke actually herself had at least seven children
constantly being sued for not paying support one time actually by her oldest daughter like her daughter oh that that
breaks my heart it does an ex of hers who was left to raise that daughter on his own commented quote it just seemed
like she was more into doing her partying doing her own thing and not wanting to have anything holding her
back and she wanted to go off and do what she wanted to do then do that and be by yourself but
don't have children yeah don't bring kids into it I never understand that no now she did later mention to authorities
that she grew up going like in and out of different foster homes and obviously didn't have the best experiences with
them so I do feel bad that she clearly had like a horrible childhood and then was also clearly being abused by her
partner it's like a cycle of abuse it's not an excuse for abandoning your own children or for exactly what we're going
to be finding out that she did to another person's child and another person's mother oh God now talking a
little bit more about her boyfriend William there interestingly enough he actually sued his parents for child
support when he was 16. wow so I can't imagine that he really had like an idyllic childhood no but such a weird
kind of like ironic piece of information there yeah and it's like people like they they came together having this
similar experience yeah exactly yeah now he also seems to have children appears that he has two children and in 2012 he
actually pleaded guilty to abuse or neglect of a child which carries a felony it carries as a felony according
to the Dickinson press back in 2011 William brought his young son to the hospital for medical care and when the
baby was checked out it turned out that the baby had a fractured skull oh my God
now obviously CPS and the police became involved in the situation and an investigation concluded that there was
literally no way in which an accident had caused that fracture and it also wasn't due to any medical condition so
that's horrific child abuse wow they're literal monsters actual monsters now now
this is going to [ __ ] enrage everybody listening somehow he was only sentenced to one year in jail for this
and got two years probation this is what happens though I feel like this kind of
[ __ ] is not taken seriously enough and it happens all the time I'm like how do
you fracture your own child's skull and then just literally get slapped on the wrist that's what happens like not only
like just like fractured somebody else's skull because that is horrific in its own right but you actually had a part in
creating this specific human that you're abusing and it's a baby and it's a baby
what does a baby do to deserve any kind of abuse exactly exactly all they do is all they do is rely on you for literally
everything right and like it is your choice to have them yeah and it's you're supposed to be a safe place for them and
it's like I you know it always breaks my heart to like think of these things but it's so horrible it happens so often
and then they it happens a lot that they get a slap on the wrist or they it gets
ignored and then the abuse continues we've seen it like over and over and over and it's like the abuse keeps happening
and eventually that kid gets murdered and then everybody's like huh weird something should have been done yeah
now luckily that was not the case for his son um he so he served his time and then a
no contact order between him and his son was put into effect good but it did end
up being lifted in uh June of 2012 so it's unclear if they've had any contact though but that's what we're working
with here and just keep the information about that felony charge and plea in your back pocket because that's going to
come back later oh boy so really just all around people in a shitty situation with just no motivation to better things
for themselves their family or anybody around them cool now Savannah and her family for Clear
reasons didn't actually associate too much with these particular neighbors but they were friendly enough like her
family they would say hello in passing it's like neighbors neighbor if they needed to
so on the morning of august 19 2017 which was 10 days after Savannah's 22nd birthday Brooke from upstairs came down
and asked if she would be willing to help her with a sewing project she was working on she went down to Savannah's
apartment specifically and she said oh you know I've been working on sewing this dress and I just need to have
somebody try it on so I can get like the final pins in place so this this is so planned so planned
and it's so planned in a way that's like hey I know that she'll help me because she's a kind person and she'll do this
like let me just take full advantage of that of the good person that she is and I'm sure she this is exactly why she did
this because some sources also claim that she offered Savannah money she probably knew this is a young mother
who's about to move out on her own of course she's gonna like do anything she can for a little extra cash of course
she's bringing a freaking baby into them yeah so Savannah agreed and she was like oh
sure like I'll be up in just a minute and she told her mom she was like oh like I'm just gonna go help out this
lady but just so you know I just ordered a pizza like I left the money over there
it's gonna be coming soon so if it gets here while I'm here like blah blah whatever and before turning to leave she
commented to her mom and said something along the lines of you don't think this lady's crazy right oh and her mom said
like of course I don't who they honestly probably felt bad for knowing that the cops were coming all
the time how could she know it that she was planning exactly what she was she couldn't she 100 couldn't there's no way
why would you ever expect that what I'm about to tell you would ever happen to you or to anybody a normal happy like
sweet people do not assume that this woman that's asking this pregnant woman to come down to her apartment to help
her out is gonna do something at all like no one would ever think that that's just never
this is your neighbor like it's like you know them you see them you know that they've got some stuff going on clearly
but like it's never involved you in the past so why would you ever think anything was going to happen I know and
it's a real bummer because it makes you sit there and go like I know I'm this way I'm like I don't want to help
anybody like I'm not a trap you just don't know that's the thing so once inside it is believed that
Brooke started arguing with Savannah saying that she was mistreating cats like that's what is said in every single
Source I'm not sure if they were Brooks cats in particular or somebody else's all I know is that it was clearly just
something to say to confuse Savannah and start a fight I was yeah just to start it off on like an aggressive kind of
note exactly so at some point it started off aggressive it gets more aggressive and escalates and Brooke lunges at
Savannah who is eight months pregnant knocks her to the ground and this is all in the bathroom so when Savannah fell
her head hit the sink so hard that she was knocked unconscious oh my God and you know what you feel so vulnerable
pregnant anyways well I can't imagine like I can tell you like fully like I remember John when I was pregnant with
the twins he set me up to get like a massage like a pregnancy massage like a special one because I had like super bad
back pain and we had to go through like getting a doctor's note because like at that you'd have to be like super careful
because you could like go into labor so it was a big the whole thing and I got so freaked out that I didn't go at the
last second because I was like I feel so helpless and like vulnerable and I I just don't want to be in a vulnerable
position while pregnant with someone I don't know even though this is a licensed massage therapist who has like
a storefront and everything I'm like so an experience too especially for like if
you're a first time Mom which you were and obviously Savannah was going to be you don't know like anything that's
gonna happen to your body and your one goal like your one job is just to keep that baby and yourself safe that's all
you think about about a lot of pressure like I can only imagine why that would make you feel so vulnerable and she was
probably like I just like I oh I just want to like reach out and hug Savannah because in that moment she was probably
only thinking of protecting that baby in her belly um and just a trigger warning the next
part is going to get very graphic and pretty detailed so if you don't want to stick around for that I understand but
it's coming just so you know Skip forward um yeah so she knocks Savannah unconscious to the ground and then she
goes and gets some kind of knife from the kitchen I was just like nobody knew exactly what kind of knife it was it
could have been like a utility knife it could have been a kitchen knife I'm not sure but she cut Savannah from hip to
hip and performed some kind of sick at home procedure that I'm not even gonna dare call a C-section but it was like it
was a crude C-section oh my God now once the baby was out like she delivered the
baby placed it inside the bathtub and luckily I'm just gonna let you go all know right away the baby lives oh thank
goodness unfortunately Savannah would not survive this she was alive when the baby was
quote unquote delivered but she was essentially just bleeding out because she didn't have proper medical care so
she was alive when she cut that baby out of her stomach she was unconscious for most of it oh
and just like oh it's like it's kill I literally am like oh because you just know what this is like to have a bait to
deliver a baby but to think of it in these circumstances and she just uh just to that helpless feeling I can't imagine
it she probably wasn't even thinking of anything but that baby if she was conscious which my God I hope she wasn't
I really hope she wasn't yeah so Brooke just tends to the baby while Savannah's basically bleeding out
on the floor and I guess she just really ignored her until William came home and
I guess when he got there he immediately obviously saw Savannah and was like is she dead which also what
I'm sorry like you know that you are too monstrous pieces of [ __ ] when one of you can walk
into your home on a random day and see a woman who has had a baby cut out of her
womb on the floor and your first reaction is is she dead I would you have any other questions
you're not completely blown away by the fact that there is a heart like a a wounded woman in your home right now
like you don't what not at all wow now Brook's response I'm not sure please help me
what I I have no words I have no words for these [ __ ] I really like I wow and they've both brought children into
the world themselves this is that's like a really wild thing to me for her at least seven times yeah wow yeah so it
was then that he grabbed a rope and manually manually strangled Savannah to death to
to finish it off what [ __ ] I can't say it enough what [ __ ] monsters absolute [ __ ] monsters now the him
like finishing everything and with the Rope was actually later debated because some people thought that it was actually
Brooke who had done that oh my God so nobody exactly knows what his level of participation was but he was there and
he didn't stop it and he didn't do anything to help her and his past tells us everything we need
to know yeah he's a violent person it's very clear yeah they are so irredeemable
and his whole family is downstairs while this is how oh my God because her mother nor betta started
panicking because Savannah hadn't said she was going anywhere other than upstairs and when she hadn't come back
down after a little bit norberta actually went upstairs and knocked on the door to see like oh like is what's
going on like where is she and Brooke told her that Savannah had actually left around 2 30 that afternoon oh my God
meanwhile she's literally on her bathroom floor oh and of course this doesn't make any
sense to norbetta because Savannah had not returned home her wallet was left in her and her family's apartment her car
was parked in the driveway and on top of all of that she hadn't answered her cell
phone at all that day and that was just nothing that she would do and her cell phone wasn't anywhere to be found and
she when she had left she was like hey I ordered a pizza she gets here before I get back
from all accounts she was coming right back and she was just running upstairs to do this and then coming home and
eating some pizza oh my God which also just think about how how like such a regular day that would yeah you just
ordered a pizza like it's just like crazy to think that she like to think of her actually like
dialing the phone ordering that and then going upstairs like having no idea so haunting it really is
nor better obviously has no choice but to call the police and report her daughter missing and she tells them the
last place that she knew Savannah was going was upstairs and she hadn't seen her since then now obviously the police
know these people well so they come upstairs they knock on the door about 5 p.m they search around the apartment
and they find nothing oh come on it's wild because there's a baby are you and an East young woman inside of this
apartment somewhere what the [ __ ] yeah didn't find the beat didn't find anything
newborn like a legitimately newborn baby yup wow now they come back the next day
they do another search they find nothing still uh still a newborn baby and a deceased young woman in this apartment
and I can't imagine this is like a huge apartment and these two pieces of [ __ ]
have a very long history of violence and being pieces of [ __ ] oh yeah now Brooke
would later tell the investigators that while the police were searching their apartment the first time Savannah's body
was hidden in the bathroom closet so all they would have had to do is open that closet oh my God unfortunately I don't
think it would have saved her life but it's like you could have found the baby way sooner yeah exactly the second time
William had actually hollowed out his dresser before the police arrived and while they were searching Savannah's
body was hidden inside the dresser wrapped in towels and plastic oh my God and the baby was just hidden under
blankets and was sitting right next to William wherever he was sitting under blankets under blankets that's
safe yeah that's safe and how do you how do you not look under the under the blankets like I'm like I feel like I'm
watching a bad horror film here and telling you like to run the other way from what is right there and it's like
I'm sorry a newborn isn't making any kind of like cool squeaky surprises or cries or
anything under blankets and you've been here twice now like the likelihood of you visiting a newborn a
newborn's place of living and not hearing them twice in a row twice in a row like what
are the odds of yeah like so yeah the next day the couple carried the dresser down that he had haul it out
with Savannah's body in it and they loaded it into their Jeep they obviously did this at night they would go out
strictly at night with the baby I was just gonna say I'm either leaving the baby at home or taking the baby with
them is both are bad yeah and like she later said that like she took the baby to Walmart like at night so she was just
walking around this community where everybody knows that like what has gone on and nobody's like turning around and
noticing this and no one see like and the thing that's killing me is like even people who did probably see this person
it's like they're seeing Savannah's baby and they don't even realize it yeah and
but the thing is this this couple was said to be under surveillance yeah it sounds like when they got rid of
an entire woman's body yeah and we're running around with her baby no no they were not they were not under
surveillance that was important [ __ ] no so apparently like at work William wasn't so careful with his words and had
mentioned something about taking care of a baby to a few of his co-workers and they were like what the [ __ ] and
everybody again remember I mentioned this is not a big apartment building it's like seven units people within the
apartment building started hearing a baby crying oh my God I really hope that her that Savannah's
parents weren't some of those people I really hope so too but either way the people who heard that
and the co-workers put two and two together since the news of a local pregnant woman going missing had spread
and now their shady ass co-worker slash neighbor all of a sudden has a baby okay
so the co-workers actually went to the police on August 23rd which was four days after Savannah had gone missing
with their information now with this pretty big lead the police were able to get a full-blown search warrant which
they served the next day and when they did they luckily found the newborn baby alive and well and found Brooke and
William just taking care of the baby I know the fact that their plan here was just to
well we ripped this baby out of a poor woman and to stay in that apartment complex
where like her family lives down like that baby's grandparents and Uncle lived downstairs
how did how did you figure that out in your head that this was gonna work that's wild how did you figure out in
your head that this was an acceptable okay appropriate thing to do well just it it this is where like when we look
into these stories it takes my mind to like just such a harsh place because I just
think about it and I'm like these people left their apartment building during the
day and there's no doubt obviously I mean they talked to the mom while Savannah was in the apartment
and it's like they're walking around knowing what they've done and knowing that they have her grandchilds and
knowing like Ashton knowing they have his baby yep and they're walking around acting like this is and it's not killing
them like this hasn't destroyed them from the inside out as humans you have to be a sick messed up
[ __ ] in the head individually you're not a human no you're a monster you're something so like Subterranean like I
can't even it's wild to me I'm so glad my brain won't allow me to even come close to understanding that kind of
Detachment so luckily immediately the baby is taken to the hospital and put into protective
custody no once they determined that the baby was obviously Savannah's baby through GNA
the baby was put back into her family's Care thank goodness she weighed four pounds 13 ounces and she didn't have any
major health concerns which is Bonkers considering how she was brought into this world that's a miracle
it was September 11th when she was finally reunited with her family and it had been three weeks since she'd been
found oh they were probably so happy to have her because it's like this is a piece of Savannah
exactly and I've seen pictures of hazely Joe she's so cute just like her mama I was just gonna say
that I'm looking at pictures because Savannah is just breathtaking like breathtaking and
oh my goodness she is the cutest babe oh like she takes your breath away this baby and she
really she really looks just like her mama she does and there's a um there's a Facebook group I'm not sure if that's
what you're on right now but I'll link that too and the family will give like periodic updates about how she's how the
baby is doing oh I love that yeah I think she's gonna be like five pretty soon oh my God she's so beautiful oh and
she looks like her Dad too she's got like a perfect mix she really does oh man she's like gorgeous I know oh this
family is like so oh it's like breaking my heart to look at you're a beautiful thing they really are it's just so crazy
that she didn't have like any major trauma you know she was not only born a month early but in such a horrific way
yeah and got no medical care at all like a few like what a couple of days after she was born like almost a week like she
was meant to be here man she really was what a little fighter not for real so Brooke and William were
uh quickly arrested thank goodness but they refused to give any information on Savannah's whereabouts oh what piece is
a [ __ ] [ __ ] every time like you think it's gotten as bad as it could possibly
get from the two of them it gets worse now it would be another three days before Savannah's body was found her
body was found Sunday August 27th by a couple of people kayaking on Red River um this is a little graphic just so you
know she had been wrapped tightly in duct tape and plastic and the only reason that she was visible was because
her body had been kind of stopped by a log in within the river which is horrific but also kind of lucky because
I don't know how soon she would have been found otherwise yeah thank goodness she was found a total of eight days oh
now when the medical examiner so bad when the medical examiner finished the autopsy they claimed that
it was clear this woman was a victim of homicidal violence um there was a long laceration obviously
that went from one hip to the other so it was clear that she was the missing mother and she was later identified as
22 year old Savannah LaFontaine greywind when they spotted this tattoo that she had on her foot that said too beautiful
for earth oh my are you kidding me no oh that like just gave me chills I knew this already and it gave me chills again
too just and you know what she really was yeah she oh I just I hate that this baby was robbed
of terrorism like and like that's the thing like such a great mom yeah like somebody that would have like cared and
doted and just like poured himself into motherhood it seems like oh that kills me
now of course Brooke and William turn on each other as soon as they are brought into custody and they're told that the
body is found Baruch told the investigators that on the day she went missing Savannah had asked her how to
induce early childbirth she had just sought Brook out because Brooke was such a great neighbor knocked on the door and
said how do I induce early childbirth woman who I literally have never talked to in my life and why would she want to
do that no idea she then told the authorities that Savannah came back two days later in the middle of the night
she had a newborn baby and she asked Brooke to take the baby wow Brooke not only are you the actual
piece of [ __ ] but you are the worst liar I've ever heard in my life like in what
world is that conceivable it's not no completely unbelievable now she would obviously change that story when she
went back to trial in 27 or when she went to trial excuse me in 2017 and she was facing charges of conspiracy to
commit murder conspiracy to commit kidnapping and lying to the police badly she did badly she told the court that
she had lied to her boyfriend William earlier that year about being pregnant because she knew that he wanted a baby
really badly and she thought that was going to save their relationship also why you guys are why do you want a baby
like you guys are not functioning first of all why do you want a baby and then second of all okay then like try to have
your own and if you can't look into other methods that don't include stealing one directly from somebody
else's womb and here's here's a like a thought I don't know get your relationship together first and become
better human beings before you bring a human being into the world precisely a baby isn't going to fix you to being
pieces of [ __ ] together that's not going to help no if anything it's just going
to add more stress and everything so later that same year during an argument Brooke claimed that William brought up
that he actually knew the whole time that she was lying about being pregnant and now he demanded that she quote
unquote produce a baby for them because that's how that works you just produce a
baby who are these people I'm like if anybody ever looked at me and told me to produce
a baby I would it would they would think that I had just done some kind of magic trick
because I would exit from that premises so quickly I'm just astounded that these two are violent
awful toxic people in a toxic violent awful relationship and they were like let's bring a newborn into this yeah
that sounds good right and not only that but like let me forcibly tell you to bring a newborn into this like produce
god like people are truly as a species man I've been like hearing well we're we are not doing well [ __ ] we are like
that is wild yeah she also said that William specifically mentioned Savannah like talked about their pregnant
neighbor and she said that's when I realized that was the baby he was talking about that we would take this
baby from a family that we literally don't even know my I have I have like no words like they
are truly just abhorrent right and again it went so well the first seven times Brooke yeah and so well the first two
times William cool wow now William obviously denies all of this he said he had no idea that Brooke had been
planning this and he denied any involvement in any kind of planning or lead up he just said that when he got
home from work that night that all this happened he walked in the door and Brooke looked at him with holding the
baby and just said this is our baby this is our family wow I'm like and then you just rolled
with that you didn't you didn't ask any questions and that is some kind of real break from reality that she had like
that is for her to stand there and just be like this is our family now whoa no it's not that's like that is not your
family that is not yours you stole that in the worst imaginable way I that's just it
and he just and like you said he just doesn't he's just like okay yeah like the way we get a baby take
this baby to Walmart and I I can't I genuinely cannot so Burke ended up pleading guilty to all
the charges that I listed earlier and she did apologize on the stand saying I'm just really really really sorry I
wish I could take their pain I wish I hadn't done this there's no excuse there's no rationalization there's
nothing I know it doesn't help but I'm sorry I'm guilty and I deserve every year that I get
yeah Brooke you know what you can do with that apology yeah you know exactly what you can do it those kind of
apologies I'm like [ __ ] off just start it off with I'm really really really sorry like listen Brooke you're not a
teenager that just like got a ding on her dad's new red convertible exactly you took a human life you took
Somebody's Daughter you took somebody's sister you took somebody's mother and then on top of that you took that
person's baby uh and just I'm really sorry they're really really really sorry I'm
really sorry that I decided to plan out inviting her over to my home where I could Ambush her and then cut a child
out of her womb yeah and then to say I deserve every year I get we know yeah exactly and it's like honey you deserves
you deserve endless punishment yeah I can't even come up with a punishment that you actually do deserve and it's
like don't you how dare you look at that family and say like I'm really sorry I wish I hadn't done it that doesn't
[ __ ] help anyone get out of here no I'd rather than just say silent I don't think any of them should be allowed to
say I'm sorry like a hundred percent we just have that thought of the exact same
time because sorry means absolute dog [ __ ] at that moment the best thing that I don't know who said this to me but I
probably just heard it throughout my life if you were sorry you wouldn't have done it exactly because you don't have
to be sorry if you just don't do it that's why we have a filter in our head that says that's probably a bad idea
yeah especially murdering a human being is not an I'm sorry moment no there's plenty of things
to be sorry for murdering another human being is something you should never get to the
point of having to be sorry for that everywhere like you said like it's not like you dinged your dad's
convertible oops that yeah sorry didn't mean to believe that that was a that was
my bad moment whatever but it's like you system you like planned this out meticulously and
you put this poor woman who's already vulnerable in like eight months pregnant in danger and then you cut the baby from
her womb and then murdered her and then stole that baby and then acted like it was yours that's just
beyond my comprehension that's good yeah so luckily we got to the sentencing for
at least Brooke here on February 2nd 2018 she was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole bye Brooke
now for the charge of conspiracy to commit murder the prosecution asked that the court imposed the maximum sentence
of life in prison which obviously they did and for the conspiracy to commit kidnapping the judge also imposed the
maximum sentence of 20 years in prison so she got the maximum on almost every charge good as she should
now this next part is going to creep you the [ __ ] out so when the public gets a hold of this
story a few other people come forward with experiences that they also had with Brooke that now made them even more
uncomfortable than they previously had in the past oh no now one woman was at lunch with her family and her brand new
baby daughter that her family had just officially adopted and the mom notices a woman sitting at a
table and is she's staring over at them more specifically focusing on the baby and this woman at lunch says that this
was 100 Brooke and she was actually with William oh my God I hate this the woman who is
broke comes over to their table to compliment the baby and apparently just kept staring at the baby and repeating
she's exactly what I want oh my God now all just like while staring wide-eyed at the baby so the little boy
at the table was just like oh yeah that's my new sister Sophia oh like he freaking stoked about it without even
looking away from the baby Brooke just replied Sophia that's the name that's exactly what I want that's exactly what
I want okay I I'm like that just gave me full chills I would be like you need to get
away from my baby right now yeah I guess the mother like went to like to like take the baby elsewhere like to
breastfeed the baby and Brooke just like kept staring at them and finally drunk because they were so uncomfortable and
these poor people they're trying to be like polite you're trying to be like yeah like what the [ __ ] do you do with
that situation like I just said like I would I would be like get the [ __ ] away
from my baby you don't know what you would do in that situation like you're trying to be nice usually to say like
get the [ __ ] away from my baby like me and you that's our motto now but yeah but like but at that point they're
probably just trying to be like polite and they're probably like okay how do I get out of this situation without being
an ass and remember that was a baby that they had just officially adopted like let us have our celebratory moment and
stop staring at my brand new baby oh my God an ex-husband came forward with information that he believed she was
deeply Disturbed she had dated this man and moved with him to Australia after divorcing from her previous husband who
she had attacked with a knife oh now this man who she was married to I think they were only married like a
couple months and he found different journals of hers and found out that she not only had a bunch of kids Living in
America because she had told them told him that she didn't have any children he found that all of that out but also been
doing that when you have kids like imagine your kids finding out later that you were like yeah I don't have kids
yeah no I don't have kids yeah and I I want some actually yeah let's have like she was saying to him like wanting to
start a family with him what the [ __ ] wait you literally have like five other families what like go take care of them
and I guess she got pissed at him but then he found these super creepy journals of hers where she was talking
about different ways to induce labor different meds that would be needed to like induce the labor all kinds of tools
for at-home childbirth like scissors gloves clamps she was planning to do this a long time ago bizarre [ __ ] dude
absolutely and it also seems like she was kind of aware that she had like this dark side to her because in one entry of
her journal she wrote perhaps there are two distinct personalities within each of us Darkness and Light one of them is
socially obliterated fairly early or were born with the one I believe were predetermined with two distinct thought
processes that manifest as personalities is it normal for humans to have this dark side seem so
uh no no the answer is no no you you asked a lot of questions and the answer to all of them is no
no like yeah we can have two different personalities for sure I'm a Gemini I'm all about that but like not one of them
includes um stealing a baby from the mother's womb yeah and not all of us have that like nasty dark side no like
sorry bro like it's a little more sociably adaptable in some situations and not very much in others but you know
yeah so she she was 100 planning to do this a long time ago oh absolutely not a doubt in my mind yeah not a doubt in my
mind which is wild because I'm like you have actually seven chances at getting good at this like at really like taking
care of these you don't you don't want to take care of a baby you have seven that you could have taken care of and
it's like or even just give a [ __ ] about like you you couldn't even you couldn't
even hit give one [ __ ] you had no [ __ ] to give about seven other kids and it's
like dipped to Australia and like left all the kids and it's like did I wonder if she left these kids after they were
not like in that baby phase anymore like maybe she's just this monster who only wants that baby phase and once they get
out of it she's like Get Away From Me Maybe I know that her oldest daughter who ended up having to sue her for child
support she left I believe she left when she was like younger and then actually became like more involved in the child's
life when she was like 13 or 14 and then just vanished again so I think she was kind of one of those that like maybe
goes in and out or for some of them she did that and then for other kids she just completely abandoned them my God it
just seemed to be a hot mess I don't get it and I feel so bad for all the kids yeah they deserve better
yeah and for people that were married to her like I can't imagine finding that out like yeah I married you and had a
child with you and this is what you're capable of oh my God and her telling you I don't have any kids and then you find
out she has a ton of kids I'd be like what kind of [ __ ] monster are you seriously oh so moving on now to
Williams he had also been charged with the same counts that Brooke pleaded guilty to
um he was acquitted on the charge of conspiracy to commit murder because they were not technically able to determine
how Savannah died like they couldn't say if it was the strangulation or if it was
from bleeding out that makes me so angry perfect and they also couldn't determine
whether he really did use the rope or if it was Brook can we look at intent here
seriously yeah evidently the jury didn't think that he had been involved in the whole plan leading up to the murder and
they seemed like I have no idea what they were thinking but like I don't know them I don't know yeah I've never met
them I don't know huh so the prosecution though they wanted to be sure that they
could obviously get this guy put away for a long time and they were really banking on a life sentence so in order
to do so they wanted to have him labeled a dangerous offender based on his past criminal record which is something that
we've seen happen a ton of times yeah now they were specifically citing obviously the 2011-2012 incident and
felony charge of neglecting or abusing a child so at first that worked the judge
judged Tom Olson sentenced William to a life sentence in prison saying later I knew the only fair and just sentence
would be the maximum allowed by law yeah unfortunately oh come on was allowed to
appeal this sentence and the North Dakota Supreme Court actually disagreed with the original judge
they stated that the previous charge that was used to label him as a dangerous offender
was not similar to the crime that he was being punished for so it simply didn't apply
and this is why the justice system is broken [ __ ] this is why that is and this is a
perfect example he was charged with abuse or neglect of a child and they're like
failed skull was fresh that doesn't really tell us anything about him what a baby yeah but not to tell you what you
need to know this is what happens though I feel like it's we see it all the time
they say they look at that and they go well that doesn't really tell us anything really because I think it's
worse than a person who kills an adult anybody who hurts or murders a child is a whole different kind of Beast that we
can't ever let walk free like no no and for some reason in this country we take it like it's not as big a deal it's the
same thing as like abusing or killing animals it's like we don't take it seriously for some weird [ __ ] reason
and it is such an indication of such [ __ ] to come and for some reason we're still just no not a big deal no it's
fine it's like whatever oh so it's infuriating so yeah so he gets retried he gets
re-sentenced and his new sentence was 20 years in Pleasant in prison excuse me plus one year to be served consecutively
and he got credit for time served which was 775 days are you [ __ ] me nope this man is gonna walk around in
less than 20 years yup wow I hope everyone in prison knows what he did says pompous [ __ ] response to this
was a very severe sentence is definitely appropriate for what happened here I was
really angry about what had happened last time but then I stopped and I tried to look at it from an objective point of
view and I'd just like to say that I'm not mad about it I totally understand why you did what you did
no one cares if you understand because nobody understands your choice glad you get ours we don't get yours lock the Key
Rotten there rot in there like I'm all for like you know people Rehabilitation and Rehabilitation but people like this
that are capable of going along with something like this in my personal opinion I don't know in what world you
are supposed to get rehabilitated from doing something like that like I don't know and not only how horrific this one
instance was but that they have this habitual violent horrific child abuse piece of
[ __ ] way about them that is long into their past it's like this is a pathology
of behavior this isn't one even this one instance I'd be like I can't understand
how you come back from that and become a human being I don't get it but you tack
on all that other [ __ ] that pathology of abuse and violence and just piece of shitness and you're telling me
that man is going to come out of prison a changed person like I don't buy it no and to sit there and be like I'm not
even mad about it nobody [ __ ] asked if you were mad about it I want you to be yeah like don't you just did that to
be like nah like it doesn't really matter I don't care like [ __ ] off yeah no one asked how you
felt about your sentencing you piece of garbage well that's actually not a part of this no but obviously Savannah's
family was incredibly upset and her mother's response was we want Justice he deserves a life sentence I don't think
this man should ever walk free he betrayed our family he looked Us in the eye with a straight face while our
daughter laid dead in his apartment please don't ever consider letting him out is there anything that can be done
I guess you would just have to call like representatives in North Carolina or excuse me uh North Dakota and ask for
him to not be released but I I don't know if there's really a lot to be done because there's only maximum
sentences for certain things like he's not even in for murder that's the problem and that's wild
right wow it's crazy and she's right he walked by that family every single time he saw
them since he knew what happened to their daughter and just looked at them knowing full well where their daughter
was where their grandchild what they planned on doing with that with their daughter like it's insane and
what's scary to know is that Savannah and Ashton's daughter hazley will be in high school by the time that William is
up for release that's her it's like what if he wants to Target this family again
that's what kills me like this oh that's just it's I have no words when he loses their
daughter like in such a horrific way and then now they have to worry about him potentially hurting their family when he
gets released yeah that's too much man oh that's so infuriating it really is now gearing things back to
Savannah now almost a thousand people attended her funeral and everybody was wearing red shirts to honor her and the
other missing or murdered indigenous women across the globe uh this like wearing red was actually something that
was started by an organization that I believe we mentioned in your willy Pickton episodes the missing and
murdered indigenous women um organization yeah let's go they will always wear that color or use that color
in their campaign campaigns excuse me and a memorial was dedicated to Savannah on a bridge right next to Red River
where her body was discovered there's a plaque with her name nailed to a tree by the bridge and not too far
from the bridge there's this like giant beautiful sunflower field which is so beautifully ironic because that was
Savannah's favorite flower oh I love it right now in the aftermath of Savannah's
murder a lot of those close to her and specifically her parents felt that the Fargo Police Department just did not do
enough yeah they felt like the reaction was far too slow when she was first reported missing and then I don't even
know how they sat there and knew that law enforcement was in that apartment multiple times while Savannah and the
baby were both in that apartment it's not even like a house it's an apartment that's the thing
how did you not hear them now David Todd the chief of police basically said something along the lines of like the
investigation would have gone differently if we knew that the person we were searching for was dead
oh it's like shouldn't you just address every situation like it's that dire yeah
like he was like he was like we weren't looking for a body we were looking for a
person and I'm like but that's actually those are the same things well I feel and it's like isn't part of like
investigatory work not going in with a with a preconceived Narrative of what has happened there you don't know what's
happened you just looked at you or that person you you go in and you let what's happening tell you what's happening
instead of going in there and being like well this is what's going on yeah it was
just a [ __ ] excuse for him to be like my Police Department's fine they did not
do their job here not at all now tribal leaders across North Dakota were outraged and demanded that something be
done and luckily something was done oh so former North Dakota attorney general and former North Dakota Senator Heidi
heitkamp proposed Savannah's act which would require that the Department of Justice and this next part that I'm
going to say is straight from the congress.gov site quote provide training to law enforcement agency agencies sorry
on how to record tribal enrollment for victims in federal databases develop and Implement a strategy to educate the
public on the national missing and unidentified person system conduct specific Outreach to tribes tribal
organizations and urban Indian organizations regarding the ability to publicly enter information through the
national missing and unidentified person system or other non-law enforcement sensitive portal develop regionally
appropriate guidelines for responses to cases of missing or murdered Native Americans provide training and technical
assistance to tribes and law enforcement agencies for implementation and develop
guidelines and Report statistics on missing and murdered Native Americans first of all like I'm so glad that that
happened and I'm so glad it's called Savannah's law yeah Savannah's acting Savannah's act but how sad is it that it
took this long just for it to be like hey we should probably train police forces
on how to just try to look for these people yeah yeah it took that long and then it's sad that
somebody decided to do their [ __ ] lost move in office blocking this bill are you kidding me no I'm not so just
some reason that's the thing so that was like a lot of information so just to like kind of
sum that up essentially what Savannah's act wants to do is address large gaps in
data collection train law enforcement more effectively with these specific cases and according to the cut increase
communication between federal state and tribal officials so when it was brought to the senate for voting it passed
unanimously obviously because there's nothing wrong with it so unfortunately former Virginia senator Bob goodlotti I
think is how you say it he blocked it at the house level um fun fact too the district that he
actually ripped is also where Virginia's largest Native American tribes live I don't understand human beings I really
don't now blocking Savannah's Act was the final thing that he did in his last week in office like he really just took
that time to be an absolute dick yeah very cool bro the reason being was that he felt like some of the language
regarding law enforcement agencies applying for Grants from the justice department needed to be Revisited I
needed my visit no okay he said you know I agree with the bill overall but I just
want I reject that certain provision yeah I bet I'm like okay well then like take it out later but just [ __ ] pass
the law no there's nothing wrong with the law just [ __ ] off dude like just leave
you're leaving luckily Savannah's law was passed and it was but it wasn't signed into law until
October of 2020. that's wild it's absolutely insane I'm glad it was passed though
I'm glad it was passed too and a second act the Not Invisible Act was brought alongside it and that act is to quote
unquote increase intergovernmental coordination to identify and combat violent crime with Indian lands and of
Indians um I want to point out that obviously I know you're supposed to say Native
Americans but for some reason a lot of the language still says Indians I don't know why they're not changing that if
there's like if like there's a reason for that or if it's just them just continuing to be [ __ ] but I just
wanted to point out that that was a quote to finish this off I want to give you like some actionable items that you
can do if you want to get involved in the movement that is bringing awareness to missing and murdered indigenous women
a great source a great resource to visit is the missing and murdered indigenous women organization and I will link that
in the show notes um on their website they bring awareness to you know different ongoing cases
different events that they're like putting on so that you can go support the mission and there's also places to
donate to help the mission keep moving along and actually last thing Thanksgiving they had this campaign
called pass the red purse where they told stories of like their struggles as indigenous people and specifically women
and they passed around the purse and asked for donations and they were able to raise more than Seventeen hundred
dollars but wow there's so much more to be done I feel like and I'm also going to link the safe
women strong Nations campaign that's being organized by the Indian law resource center and again so I saw
Indian being used there too so I'm not sure what that's about if you want to explain that to me I would love
to be enlightened yeah if you would like email us and let us know because I really do want to know what that's about
because it does feel like so it feels wrong yeah because I'm like yeah I want to say the right thing and that's
what that place is called and it seems as though they're doing like great things for indigenous people so so let
us know um but yeah they're in their website has tons of information about like actionable items that we can all work on
different places to donate if you're able to um I already donated and I did so in
Savannah's name and I feel like if we if you're able to donate it would be really
cool if everybody did so in Savannah's name yeah because guys when we did uh the Katie hawelka case yeah and I linked
to that petition you guys got that petition blown up that thing went from 8 000 signatures to the last I looked at
it it was like 40 000. yeah um you guys and you guys did that you did like the video Power that we all possess together
let's go flood these sites with donations if you're able to if you're not able to do donations there's so many
other things you can do there's numbers you can call there's events that you can
do and let's just do that all in Savannah's name yeah let's do it and we'll link all of this stuff so it'll be
easier for you guys to follow uh when we post this on into like the Instagram and
stuff will also put all that information again so that you guys can have it in different areas but that would be
amazing to just blow it up in Savannah's name absolutely and just a little update
baby hazely Joe I think I said already she's almost five years old now and according to her father Ashton she is a
quote unquote calm happy baby who is always smiling oh instead after Savannah's death he obviously had to
grow up incredibly quickly to take care of their daughter yeah and obviously that was incredibly difficult in the
beginning like your whole life is turned upside down you're mourning the woman that you were with for seven years of
your life and then you're a dad like all at once I can't imagine that but he said
that he's got a good rhythm going now and he just wants to be a good father for his daughter and he said of Savannah
every day I'm reminded of her more and more because every day she grows meaning the baby and she's starting to look more
like her mother I miss Savannah so much I've never put love into somebody like I
did her oh and my heart that update I mentioned that the family Savannah's family has a
Facebook page where they update anybody interested and I was looking through it the other night and I saw that there's
actually a GoFundMe set up right now for Ashton and I'm not sure what happened um basically the family like his family
is saying that he's very private and they don't want to let all the information out yeah but there's a
GoFundMe set up for him and it says basically that he's like fighting for his life and they need like to get to a
certain um amount oh geez so I'll put that GoFundMe link too if you want to donate to that yeah I'm not
entirely sure what's happening but I hope that he's okay especially for the baby and for yeah oh geez I hope so no
yeah not to see after kind of finishing this whole case and I got like amped up about the different things that we can
all do and then I found that and I was like oh no like I hope he's all right I know yeah geez well let's let's make
sure we blow that up and we we make sure we do whatever we can in Savannah's name
here definitely yeah is the case of Savannah LaFontaine gray wind and she deserved so
much more yes she did and so did her family everybody involved in on the victim side of things just deserves sad
but I hope that Hasley Joe is just thriving oh I hope so too I hope that whatever's going on with Ashton gets
cleared up soon yeah for sure crazy it's a crazy world that was a tough one but thank you for sharing it
because it needed to be shared you're welcome and again I'll put all of that information that I kind of like flooded
you with at the end that it will all be in the show notes yeah definitely I can also see if we can get that posted on
social media as well perfect sweet well we hope that you keep listening guys and
we hope you keep it weird I should never ever have to tell you that you don't have to keep it this
weird if you keep it this weird you're not a weirdo if you keep it this weird you're going to jail forever and you're
a disgusting human being yep that bye bye [Music] foreign [Music]

Savanna LaFontaine Greywind was about to enter such an exciting time of life. She had just gotten a new job, was working on getting a new apartment with her longtime boyfriend and the two of them together were getting ready to welcome their sweet baby girl, Haisley Jo into the world. Unfortunately, two human garbage piles of muck would take Savanna's life and attempt to take her baby as well. Savanna and her family are Native American people and Savanna's story is sadly another example of how often Indigenous and Native American people, specifically women, are treated and how their stories are not covered in mainstream media. To help fight against this here are some websites with calls to action that we can all get ourselves involved in. If you're so inclined, we thought it would be a nice sentiment to donate to any of the places available via these sites and to do so in Savanna's name

Safe Women, Strong Nations

Missing Murdered Indigenous Women

Ashton Matheny GoFundMe

Savanna's Memorial Facebook page

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Brief Summary

Savannah LaFontaine Greywind was kidnapped and murdered by her neighbors, sparking outrage and legal reforms for Indigenous women's safety.

Key points

Recording Remotely Due to COVID. Ash shares their struggles with recording remotely while dealing with COVID-19.
The Spirit Lake Sioux Tribe. Discussion about the history and culture of the Spirit Lake Sioux Tribe, including name changes and beliefs.
Savannah's Loving Nature. Savannah was deeply involved in her niece and nephews' lives, showcasing her nurturing spirit.
The Disturbing Neighbors. Savannah's neighbors, Brooke and William, had a volatile relationship marked by violence.
A Horrific Turn of Events. Savannah is lured into a deadly situation under the guise of helping a neighbor.
The Tragic Outcome. Savannah's life ends tragically after a brutal attack, leaving her baby to survive.

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