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[Music] [Applause] sword Florence is the capital city of the region of Tuscany Florence was the center of trade
and finance during the Middle Ages and was considered one of the wealthiest cities of that
era it is considered to be the birthplace of the Renaissance today it is a city known for
its architecture famous monuments and Renaissance art each year millions of tourists flock
to the area Florence is one of the most beautiful cities in the world but amongst all of this culture and beauty
lies a stain gruesome and ugly stain that has permanently left its mark on Florence and scarred the city
forever because in the second half of the 20th century something awoke a monster that was sleeping in the Hills
outside of the great City for nearly 20 years the monster crept in the dark under a moonless sky
ambushing its prey over a dozen people were murdered while making love in parked cars in the
hills of Florence this monster has not only ended many lives but destroyed families and
terrified the hundreds of thousands that live in the area it does not take Supernatural
insight into the dark side of the human soul to see absolute evil that not only lies within but oozes from the
monster over 100,000 men have been investigated over a dozen men have been arrested and countless lives have been
ruined by false [Music] accusations there have been suicides exhumations poisonings body parts sent in the mail
and seances in [Music] graveyards it quickly became clear to the entire country that Florence now had
its very own serial [Music] killer a killer unique to the area but disturbingly familiar to us in the
United States the monster murderous crimes are hauntingly similar to that of the Son of
Sam the Phantom killer of Tex Arcana and the Zodiac but unlike his evil American
Brothers no one would survive the monster of Florence for us our story starts on
Saturday September 14th 1974 just about 40 kilom outside of Florence a young man 19 years old named
pasquali who worked at a local bar spent that evening with his lovely young girlfriend
Stefania who is only 18 years old after a few hours at one of their favorite spots a local disco club the two hopped
in pasqual's small car a blue Fiat 127 and drove off into the night the young man knew he had to have
his sweetheart home at a reasonable hour but but before dropping her off the two
were looking for a little privacy so they went and parked the car in a secluded area near a
lake sometime just before 11:45 p.m. a dark figure approached the vehicle there was no moon that night so
it was particularly dark out the dark figure got very close to the car's driver side door the couple likely did
not see this as they were quite busy suddenly five gunshots broke the night's silence pasquali was hit all
five times at a close range once in the heart and four times in the body then four more gunshots all hitting
Stefania none in vital parts of her body the dark figure the monster walks around to the passenger side door pulls
the door open and grabs Stefania and pulls her out of the car the monster throws her to the ground just behind the
car near the tailpipe the monster pulls out a knife and lunges toward the very badly injured
girl and with this very sharp knife he stabs her 96 times the monster then violated the
woman's corpse after he grabbed the necklace from around Steph st's neck and yanked it off of
her the monster picks up stefania's purse and dumps the contents on the ground before leaving he walks over to
pasquali who has by now died from the gunshot wounds the monster stabs Pali five times
their bodies were discovered the next day by a farmer this is true crime garage and
this is the monster of [Music] Florence the monster of Florence Captain one of a very famous case worldwide and
the first double homicide that we're going to discuss is the one that took place in 1974 described right there by
our wonderful narrator I don't know who that guy is he's very very talented you should see him he was he was reading
that telling that story and playing the cello at the same time blew my mind yeah
blindfolded blindfolded uh the thing here is Captain so let's go through that crime uh let's talk about what evidence
may have been found and if there were any leads in that double homicide of the two young people that were shot that
night in their car now a little bit of background on the two young people well they they had a long-term relationship
this was not a one night fling I know they were very young pasquali was only 19 and Stefania was 18 at the time but
they were high school sweethearts they had been together for some time and they were out enjoying the evening together
and then they're gunned down in their vehicle MH um as far as the autopsy goes and the findings of that you know we
already said that pasquali he he was already dead when he was stabbed he was shot first and then for some reason the
killer went back to him and stabbed him five times as for Stefania she was shot four times and then stabbed there's
there's two different uh arguments here one being that she was stabbed 96 six times the other that she was stabbed 97
times who knows I mean that's a lot of stab wounds I don't know if you're going to be able to determine if exactly how
many it was right regardless um it was determined that the first three times that she was stabbed
is what actually killed her and it is believed by the investigators that the remaining 93 or 94 stab wounds were made
postmortem and most of these stab WS focused on the female areas of the body a lot of them being what people would
typically dub superficial stab wounds yeah there's going to be some very gruesome stuff in this episode just a
warning there well I'm glad that you dropped that warning because uh another very strange thing about this crime uh
the killer had placed a Vine shoot inside the female victim placed a what a Vine shoot uh like a some kind of
vegetation that would have been growing in the area Okay um the authorities did find as far as evidence goes they did
find shell casings at the crime scene all of these came from bullets that were used in a Beretta handgun they were 22
caliber long rifle bullets and both the ammo and the gun are commonly used uh guns or commonly owned guns in this area
MH and as we mentioned stefania's necklace uh it must have been stolen um she it was reporting that she was
wearing it that night and it was not found at the crime scene uh the investigators found stefania's brawl and
purse about 200 M from the murder scene remember we had said that the killer had
taken her purse and dumped the contents of it onto the ground now more than one witness driving in that area that night
reported hearing gunshots around 11:45 p.m. and judging by reports of what time the couple left the Disco the
investigators believed that the couple were parked at the location for about an hour or so before the shooting took
place as for leads well there were there were a few but as you will see there is
not much detailed information for investigators to work with here so yes uh two of stefania's friends came
forward in the investigation one says that on the day that the couple was killed Stefania told a friend that she
had a strange encounter with a man that had scared her now stepania failed or did not give any further detail about
the man you know didn't mention if she knew his name but what what was the situation didn't give a description of
the man or didn't even say what had terrified her about this situation so it's just basically I met this guy he
freaked me out and that's it or I was I was I was here and this happened it was a very brief thing but it was enough for
after she was killed for her friend to come forward and say by the way she happened to mention this casually to me
the day that she was killed mhm okay the next lead again comes from a friend of stefanas a different friend says that
the couple had been in somewhat of a secluded area just days earlier uh pasquali was giving Stefania a driving
lesson MH uh but they said that a man had followed them they believed that a man had followed them to the location
and was watching them during the course of this uh so-called driving lesson um the thing here is though this again it's
one of those things that you know when when you are talking to your friends and when you're talking to your family and
something weird happens to you that day it might only be just a weird little thing that happens right but then if
when a crime like this takes place just days later all of a sudden it's a big thing that you're wondering well why
didn't I nudge that person further why didn't I say what kind of car did you see what color was the vehicle what did
the man look like was it somebody you knew you know uh these are things that happen to us in our daily lives and we
you know kind of casually tell our friends and family about it the other lead um this came from several people
came from a bunch of young couples that would park in the same area where the couple was killed these couples told
investigators that they had often seen men watching them uh voyers observing the couples as they were being romantic
in their vehicles a bunch of peeping THS is what you're saying thank thank you Captain
here's what I think is funny about this yeah we we knew this guy was watching and it didn't stop
you um well the thing here that that was that was obvious to me very quickly in this case that that was foreign to me um
because not being you know from the area or even familiar with it I didn't realize that there's a whole community
of this going on in Italy and if anybody in Italy is listening to the show and they're thinking that I'm speaking out
of turn I'm only going off of all of the information that I've consumed so what are you saying I mean you say this the
community what I've been told okay from everything that I've read and found and watched is that there's there's two
things going on here um that that during the times of these crimes uh that a lot
of young people would would remain living with their parents until they went off and got married so these people
that are in long-term relationships or or in love with somebody and they want time alone with this person it's very
common that they would spend an evening or a couple of hours in in in a vehicle parked somewhere well this is pretty
common in the states as well right well yeah but I but I got the vibe that it was it's happening a lot you know like
like overwhelmingly uh compared to how it's happening here you are just you're going
to have to finish the show I'm going to have to get my plane ticket oh now you sound like one of the
Peeping TOS so I'm not no who said I wanted to be the one of the Peeping Toms I was going to get my own car and go out
there have some fun rent a big car with some leg room yeah uh the thing here is Captain though what this has what this
has inspired let's say is now you have a bunch of men that go out in the evening
and they watch these young couples you know they kind yeah they kind of hide in the bushes hide in the woods flicky
flicky and watch these young couples um I've even heard that you know you know as more recently that some people have
you know brought technology into this quote unquote hobby now amongst these peeping Toms or voyers they call each
other Indians I guess that's some kind of term that they've come up with I've seen it used in many reports regarding
these crimes however I think it's a it's a degrading the Indian population by using that name the pilgrims never
talked about the Indians like being peeping Toms there were no complaints of of uh being watched from a from Chief
peeping Tom so we won't call him that we'll just call him peeping Toms we'll call him Watchers uh but regardless when
we speak of these people you'll call them Watchers you'll know who we are talking about or losers well according
to uh newspaper reports uh one of the Mysteries surrounding the murders that investigators thought would really help
Point them toward the perpetrator of this crime is that the investigators wanted to know this a simple answer to a
complicated question in my opinion okay was the killer waiting for just any couple to arrive in this area or was the
killer waiting for this specific couple to arrive or did the killer just have happened to come across them and kill
them I think there needs to be more questions there I think you're right I think the other question would be you
what I think is more likely is you know was this individual was this peeping Tom and he's not at
this point the the killer we don't know is a Peeping Tom right but was he just you know was he stalking them was he
following them because the the idea that yeah if look if this is happening and a
bunch of points and you got you know make out lane over here and make out look out you
know make out Mountain over here you can just sit there all night if you'll want
but that works I think as far as a Peeping Tom um not a professional um but I'm just saying that's what I think a
Peeping Tom would do just let's go to the area that people are making out or fornicating and let's hang out there to
me as far as the murder's concerned it'd be I followed these people I went to the
Disco with them they left the Disco I followed them out here I think you bring up a good point because we see at least
two of her friends coming forward stating that there was something that had taken place in the days leading up
to the murder where Stefania thought something weird was going on being followed being watched or a strange
encounter with some some weird dude um and I think you're right Captain I think that they they didn't ask enough
questions as well and and one question I have regarding this particular crime would be why why would the killer stab
the boy after he was dead I mean he had shot him five times by that point and then he
goes back and stabs him another five times I I don't know why but my question Poss well possibly just ad adrenaline
right you're exactly right could be adrenaline but I also wondered if he wanted to make sure that the the boy was
dead that that he had some concern that he left him alive now why would he be concerned well one his mission was to go
out obviously and kill these two young people but two was he was he worried that he could
be identified if he left anybody alive did did they happen to know him um had they seen him before or was there
something about him that would give himself away as far as his identity well I mean at the end of the day if you
leave somebody there's always a possibility that they're able to identify you later mhm
and then the other thing is the overkill with the female victim uh he degrades her and and stabs her over 90 times that
usually indicates some type of uh personal relationship or some kind of uh previous relationship with the
victim yeah I I see that but I also see that you know that that victim could be a symbol for something mhm greater you
know where it's like maybe just a hatred towards women and and so you know that victim is it's not so much that he hates
that victim it's she's the symbol for every female that he's ever hated or that has ever tormented him or didn't
give him enough attention or maybe it's Mom issues well and to me the other thing here Captain is what what I think
is absolutely terrifying is that rather than him being cons con ered rather than
the killer or Killers being concerned that they might be observed by somebody else or that another couple might pull
up in a vehicle or they could have been spotted by somebody rather than being concerned about that the killer seem to
be more focused and concerned about actually finishing the job about he had an idea of what he wanted to go out and
do it it's it's almost ritualistic in a way and he was going to continue and finish this job no matter what he was
going to take his time do what he felt he had to do before leaving the area but he's also again if he is concerned about
you know somebody coming up on Lover's Lane or something this guy has a knife and he has a gun you know so what was he
worried about the other strange thing here captain and this wait hold on I was just going to say I don't think a
murderer you know after he's done murdering somebody is scared that he's going to be murdered you well I meant
spotted that he would be identified or or there would be witnesses to something well yeah and that's kind of hard to
know just cuz we don't know the exact layout of where they're at like how open was it was there a bunch of was it a big
field was it you know was there some trees blocking the entrance who knows one thing I also wondered about and this
is a detail that's not widely reported but later stefania's grave was vandalized and I don't have details on
how it was vandalized just that it was it was was vandalized now that makes you wonder and question was this a
coincidence does this or does this further point to that the killer may have known her and had had hatreds
toward her or coincidence because sometimes stupid people just do bad dumb things and it could be completely
unrelated to the crime yeah or it could be something where somebody read something in the paper and they're just
a sicko and they're like let's let's def face if we def face her grave then then
people are going to be talking about this we'll start some rumors well the investigators continue to look for the
killer or killers of the young couple despite the few leads that they have to go on now just under 7 years later on
Saturday June 6 1981 this is just about 15 kilomet outside of Florence a couple who had been together for quite some
time went out for ice cream this is 30-year-old Giovani and his girlfriend Carmela who is just 21 at the time they
went out for you know it's it's June right so it's nice and warm out and even though it's late at night let's go out
and get some ice cream it's about 10:00 that night after they go out uh they decide that they're going to go and park
at a place that is Again frequented by other couples looking for privacy but also a location that is frequented by
these peeping Toms or voyers mhm so while they are parked there they they are attacked uh investigators have
reason to believe the man was attacked first Giovani was shot three times once in the heart once in the lung and then
in the head Carmela was shot five times one of these shots was at Point Blank Range to the chest this was the death
blow after she is shot the monster pulls Carmela from the vehicle and over to an
embankment about 12 M away then he cuts her jeans all the way up to the Belt I couldn't find where a report of where
this cut started at what location you know low on the jeans I'm guessing quite low on the jeans because you know maybe
even the bottom of the pant leg or legs because for what was about to take place
the jeans would have had to have been basically removed uh I'm going to say this as politely as I can without
leaving anything to question but the killer removed the pubic area of the female victim this was done at the
previous crime as well um again the killer opens up the purse and scatters the contents on the ground and just like
at the first crime scene the monster stabs the male victim postmortem so there's a lot of evidence that maybe
it's the same killer or possibly a copycat killer I mean we we're talking about the first crime happening in 74
now this crime is taken place in 1981 there's a lot more to get into and we'll get right back to this after this quick
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for filling up the fridge and the the beer fund cheers to you the the bodies were found by a policeman out walking
with his son uh the following day uh at this time the male victim was still in the car and uh the driver's side door
window was shattered when investigators found Carmel she was as we said at an embankment now this was about 12 M away
from the vehicle so the first question that comes to mind here Captain is you know would you say that the perpetrator
appears to be relatively strong or at the very least in good physical condition 12 M away from the vehicle
would be about 39 ft now I I don't know any of the uh you know height or weight of this woman of Carmela however I've
seen pictures of her she appears to be average height and weight but that still seems 39 ft seems like a considerable
distance to carry somebody that probably weighs 100 to 115 pounds right but he you know maybe not carry he might have
dragged well that that was one thing that I was curious about because um you know there were there were no drag marks
found on the ground or the body according to the evidence that I reviewed I yeah but again it's it's all
about terrain I mean if if we're talking about a rocky a area then then you're going to see some of that on the body
but if we're talking about a you know grassy the grassy null right you're not going to see you know the marks on her
body you know you could drag somebody through the grass and it's not going to you know mess up the body and none of
the evidence uh pointed towards anything as as far as mud or dirt on the hands and knees or the bottom of her feet or
shoes uh but I guess that information is not necessary because you know the they're stating that she died from that
point blank gunshot to the chest and died in the car then obviously she didn't walk or crawl 39 fet away well
right and I think as far as the detectives go yeah is is this murderer is he does he have some strength is he
able to pick her up put her on the shoulder carry carry her wherever he needs to right or is he dragging the
body or is there two uh suspects right so that that'd be the other question I'm not suggesting that this man if it is a
single perpetrator I'm not suggesting that he needs to be a hulking person you know a giant man I'm just simply saying
you could you could probably if it's a soul perpetrator you could probably rule out a a 79y old man or or a very small
man that maybe only weighs 110 PBS um the thing here though remember we discussed in the first crime well it
could be a very strong small man built like a fire plug uh the in the first crime the necklace was stolen from the
female victim in this crime Carmella's necklace was found at the scene however it had been laid across her mouth so her
mouth is open right and I don't know if it was I'm guessing that the necklace would have been broken you know yanked
off of her neck rather than someone taking the time to unclasp it uh but it was laid so it would be going across her
mouth or or through her teeth if you want to say that almost creating some kind of smile with the with the necklace
there uh both victims were stabbed in the abdomen as well so I mean there's again you know I know where I know
there's somebody out there right now going it's a true crime show you don't need to tell people now look I'm trying
to if this is too much for you try a different episode um so we have a lot of Mutilation as far as the pubic area goes
but but above that and the lower abdomen there's a lot of stab wounds as well mhm
and and that happened on both victims yeah so so what's the motive of that that that is my question you know it
again it almost seems with the removal uh it almost seems like that's some kind of
ritualistic uh aspect to these crimes the investigators has been widely reported in this particular crime that
the investigators believe that the couple saw or detected the presence of the monster before they were attacked
they have reason or more likely they probably have evidence to believe that the couple was trying to flee when they
were attacked with a car trying to flee with a car or well I think okay so I have a I have somewhat of a a
description of the state that the bodies were found in okay the um the male victim his his pants were not all the
way on okay so it what what the the investigators believe is that he was compromised because he was not dressed
but he was trying to get dressed uh and flee uh the scene you know that maybe maybe he was trying to get dressed and
then trying to start the car um other than the other than him pulling up his pants um that I don't know what other
evidence they had to suggest this to them other than it's been reported as such I'm I'm guessing that they had more
evidence to point towards this maybe they found the key in the ignition maybe they you know the key was in his hand
you know there's there's anything there's these little bits and fragments and pieces that we will we may never
know but it's always been reported that they believe that the they had detected or heard or seen somebody approaching
the car well that would make me wonder okay a couple things when somebody's going to go park with their sign ific
other normally like I said you you park in an area and there's some kind of um you know blockade at the entrance you
know like maybe some trees or something so but you're going to park far enough away from the entrance that when you see
you know headlights MH then it kind of gives you a warning okay got to put my Jimmy away
right so what I'm wondering about this this attack is did they Park far enough away away and did they have some
headlights come in and then they go okay we got to get decent you know we don't know if this is a cop or
not that that to me seems more likely than a you know this individual just rolling up on them and Shining a
flashlight right you know because if he was trying you know what sense would it make if he was parked somewhere else or
just got there by foot and started approaching the vehicle with the light flashing towards them mhm
you know unless he wanted to create more fear maybe he wanted to see that fear but so then I'm now I'm wondering do we
have other uh vehicle you know tire tread or what well we we don't have any of that we don't have any evidence of
that here and but you bring up a good question because with the first murder scene the brawl of the female victim in
the purse are found 200 M away from the vehicle so that would suggest that this individual is walking that that was my
first initial thought and then I recalled some some information that we gathered from uh Theodore Bundy who when
he talked about his crimes and calm Ted when when Ted would leave the the crime scene the murder scene where he was
dumping a body and he would take a lot of the females um identification and any of their personal items with him and he
said you know they they thought he was some kind of Mastermind of going undetected how did you go so undetected
for so many years what did you do with their stuff did you burn it did you bury it he goes no I just simply drove away
from the crime scene from the murder scene and I would randomly toss an item out the car window as I was driving once
I got far enough away I just randomly toss these things out they have a way of Disappearing now he had the benefit
Bundy had the benefit of the bodies not being found for a considerable amount of
time here we see two crime scenes where the bodies are found the very next day almost as if somebody takes little to no
precaution does not mind them being found and again we talk about the mutilation to the female victim it's
almost that somebody not only does he have this ritual but he also has uh a need to to shock and disturb whoever's
going to find or see these bodies because he leaves the victim the f victim outside of the vehicle yeah yeah
or was she outside of the vehicle when she he approached them were they both outside of the vehicle well they can
determine that she was killed inside the car based off of blood splatter is that blood and bullets and
all that that that type of evidence they can determine that she was killed inside
the vehicle and then removed in same same scenario in the first crime in the in the first and and what we have here
the key piece of evidence to really connect these you know is this a copycat or the same person is the the the Shelf
casings are very similar and and both of these murders yeah and we couldn't tell
you the story of the monster of Florence without discussing a a fine gentleman uh
and Captain I like this guy a lot this is Mario spy uh Mario worked for one of the area's more prominent newspaper
Publications he spent he was sent to this crime scene the day after the murder when the IES were found uh to
cover the story okay and here is a brief version of Mario's account of what he saw when he arrived on the scene that
day he says the boy seemed to be sleeping in the driver's seat his head leaning on the window only a little
black mark on his Temple and the car window Shattered by a bullet indicating that it was a crime scene the girl's
body lay some feet behind the car at the foot of a little embankment amid scattered wild flowers she had also been
shot and was on her back naked except for a gold chain which had fallen between her lips now according to Mario
everything at the scene was unnaturally composed um immobile there were no signs
of struggle or confusion and I found this I found this to be very interesting because you know when we spoke with
prosec Juan Martinez who who prosecuted jod Aras back in uh that was episode 23 of of True Crime garage available in the
iTunes Store Shameless plug there um but when we spoke with Juan Martinez remember he said that in his
jurisdiction what they do as prosecutors is when there's a murder scene or they they whoever the prosecutor that gets
that case is sent to the crime scene relatively quickly after the discovery of of the victim and he said that one
thing you know so this guy's been to dozens and dozens of murder scenes as well as Mario spey who's covering these
murders and crimes in Italy and both of them have the same thing they're saying that when we show up to these murder
scenes one thing that is obvious to us is an obvious sign of a violent struggle you know that there's usually blood
smears there's Furniture that's knocked over there's things that are broken there's things scattered on the floor uh
it's an obvious sign of a strugle where is saying the thing that was different for him about this crime and he knew
immediately that this was going to be different from anything that he's ever investigated before or reported on
before was that when he arrives at this crime scene it's it's composed it there is no sign of violent struggle this is
simply somebody came upon these people and attacked them and killed them very quickly and precisely well I I can't
remember every detail cuz it seemed so long ago but uh you know the first case we ever covered in the garage and I I do
remember sweating a lot I do remember sweating a lot I also remember that's when you you didn't
understand the idea that you had to talk into the mic so you just kind of walk around the garage mhm I wanted it to be
a walking show you've confined me to a chair yeah you need to well people need to be able to hear you
um so but in that case we covered the Phantom killer and there was there's several attacks which is that's kind of
what we got going on here but there some of those attacks there was a struggle and some there weren't right so so right
now we have two two attacks no sinist struggle pretty much on either one uh to me that's why I don't I don't put any
weight into the investigator saying that they saw the attacker there therefore they're trying
to get away right like I I don't put a lot of weight in there because to me we we also have a shattered driver side
window mhm so to me this guy is stalking from a distance right approaching them and you
know depending on how how bright it is outside or how much his eyes are able to adapt to the darkness uh maybe there is
a light on in the car who knows right um or maybe the car is still running then I think this individual is
just stalking from a distance coming up and that first shot is through that window and hitting the male and this
attack and I think you're right here Captain I think he the killer got the jump on them let's say because yeah
because all of these shots hit a Target they weren't you know immediate death shots but they all hit a Target so
either this guy's a super you know super Marksman or he's very close to the vehicle very close to these victims when
he's shooting at them yeah and well we have evidence that some of the the some of the wounds are you know um what's it
called uh Point Blank Range correct right so so yeah I would assume that you have
some of those and so maybe these other and now this is 80 881 so maybe the forensics isn't up to par with what we
have now so they might not be able to tell you how exactly far away he was but I'm I'm guessing this guy wasn't any
more than 5T away right and possibly right up on the window right even and you pointed out some obvious signs of of
uh links you know of of similarities into the previous crime a couple of other things that we haven't mentioned
yet though you know the first crime takes place in the month of uh September this one in the month of June so both
warmer months um it they also take place on a Saturday night as well as uh moonless nights uh so these would be
nights that would be particularly dark out uh both on a both on a week what it means there um and in the warmer months
now Mario spezi uh as I said is a seasoned and might I add a very talented investigative journalist uh he is
covering the case and his article covering the crime well it became a new paper sensation uh and eventually he
revealed that a serial killer was stalking the countryside of Florence the newspaper pointed to something that the
police had overlooked this killing this double homicide was similar to the double homicide that had taken place in
the Hills North of Florence back in 1974 that's the first crime we discussed right the um the this prompted the
police to compare the shells the bullet casings recovered from from both crime scenes they discovered that the bullets
had been fired in fact by the same gun yes it was a 22 caliber Beretta firing Winchester H series with a copper jacket
which according to the ballistics experts not only came from the same gun but very likely came from the same box
of 50 bullets mhm uh so the the gun this gun had a defect uh it had a defective firing pin that left an
unmistakable mark on the rim of each shell so now you know they know that this is a one-of aind marking so there's
no question this is the same gun so now they have a huge breakthrough but of course a scary one and spy appears to be
right in his assessment that Florence is dealing with a serial killer well and what I think is so scary is the time
that has elapsed I mean 74 to 81 that's a long period and what other crimes might have happened during that that we
that we're not aware of mhm the police report also noted that the killer had used a particular knife with a special
notch in it and spy uh throughout his time covering the case would come to the conclusion that this was probably what
he calls a scuba knife Scuba Steve yeah I I don't know really what that means scuba knife I mean I'm guessing they has
some ridges on one side correct well following spy's uh breakthrough in the case and the excitement of the readers
of the newspaper uh was through the roof they wanted to learn more about the crimes more about the monster and more
about any possible leads in the case uh spy wrote many many articles about the crimes and Poss and possible suspects
during some periods he was releasing an article a day about the case once spy wrote about one suspect uh who was a
priest who frequented prostitutes for the thrill of shaving their pubic hair what yeah he also wrote about a psychic
no no what yeah so there was a priest that liked to visit prostitutes to shave them to shave their pubic hair that was
his his fetish and spy thought that it was worth uh telling the community about because he thought it was a strange
enough fetish that it might carry over to something that the monster was doing he also wrote about let me pay you to
shave you now no thank you he also wrote about a psychic who spent a night in the
cemetery where one of the victims were buried uh the psychic claimed to be sending and receiving messages from the
dead and Captain you know how much know via email or was it is that USPS stamps.com
walkie-talkie uh you Captain you know how much some of the listeners love it when I or or better we bring up psychics
right so I couldn't when I came across this portion of the story I couldn't help myself and had to in cuz you're
that's what you're that's your weekend job yeah next a psychic on the side yeah if I mean call the show I'll do a
reading the public was now reading about the crimes almost daily And discussing them at bars around water coolers and in
many social settings and they love sometimes they talk about this in garages I heard yeah they and they loved
to indulge in the wild speculation they were getting a lot of wild speculation from sp's articles and I think that
might be why they were so popular now later that year Mario spezi was actually the one who named the killer the monster
of Florence yeah which is such an interesting name because when you think Florence you think love and romance and
all the stuff and then to toss in you know such a bad word you know well he had covered other like European uh
serial killers so he was kind of he had some insight into this and um I think he
had uh you know kind of saw other nicknames that were given to killers and this was one that he
really really thought was terrified the community and I think there's no better name than what he came up with right now
okay so following the second set of murders remember we talked about the Peeping Toms the voyers the the Watchers
the the priests that are into shaving well forget forget about the priest I think that was just that was just an odd
story that happens to be part of this um the the police got some information and
with this information they went and they picked up one of these uh Watchers okay
uh so do you want to hear about this guy Captain yeah his name was Nick no his name was Enzo spetti old Enzo spalletti
belly full of spaghetti yes he was born in 1945 he was an ambulance driver and a
Peeping Tom um those things don't go together well it's his hobby um he he he his car was spotted in the area of the
crime scene of the second crime scene okay uh now that night he was out with one of his quote unquote nighttime
Expedition friends so like we said there's there's people that go out and do this by themselves there's people
that go out with their friends and do this there's like like finding Bigfoot it's a strange thing to think that
there's a whole community of these peeping Tom Watcher people I'm going to go find Bigfoot I'm going to go watch
people touch each other but the key thing here is Captain his friend when interviewed by police tells them that he
went home the friend went home around midnight and spetti was still in that area spetti tells his wife and some
customers uh that he had saw a young couple murdered that particular night uh he also mentions some of the mutilations
that were done before the information is released to the public this was information released in the newspapers
okay um so because of this this is why he's called into questioning when question about where he was that night
he starts off by making up stories and telling lies it's after about 6 hours of questioning that he admits to being near
the crime scene but he insists that he went home after his friend left at midnight now the problem that Enzo
spetti gets into here is that when his wife is interviewed she she does not agree with him leaving at
midnight because she says that he didn't come home that night until around or after 2 a.m. right spetti is arrested
and he's imprisoned now while he is locked up a strange a stranger calls his wife and calls his brother and both
state that this is not a voice that either one of them had recognized but basically his wife is told on the phone
from this stranger tell him to be quiet he soon will be acquitted and released from jail a little jail time will serve
him well the idiot what was he thinking saying he knew the victims from the newspapers when the newspapers didn't
release that information until the next morning so a strange phone call to get to the wife of our number one suspect
and Eddie spaghetti he he might have known this couple if there were known to you know park right you'd think you know
this guy is going out has a partner in crime um peeping Tom partner mhm what they do hold each other's hands and [ __ ]
while they beat off oh my God anyway no but it's like uh it's weird so maybe he did know the couple maybe he saw more
than he's you know leading on the investigators on what he saw but there so we got this weird call so we're let's
just assume this is the murderer but if this is the murderer that's calling and saying hey look he's going to be
acquitted soon if he just shuts up right right then we can assume what I was saying from the beginning that this this
person is stalking these people and not only is he stalking everybody he's stalking that whole area and that and he
knows he he has his he has his hand on on the pulse of the city all somebody is arrested for my crimes I will go out of
my way to connect with that person's wife brother friend whatever right so I mean we're talking about somebody that's
very dedicated to what is happening yeah yeah and and just strange in a way that
that his wife is getting the phone calls now of course we don't have any proof of
these phone calls other than his wife saying it and his brother saying it both of them would have a motive to see their
husband or brother not imprisoned for four heinous murders okay so the murderer calls and says he's going to be
acquitted soon and he's going to be released so then what happens well he Enzo spetti is still locked up in prison
and in October of 1981 this is October 22nd uh just 30 kilometers from Florence another young couple this is Stefano uh
he's 26 years old and Susanna who's 24 they went out to dinner that night and around 1 p.m. uh they say they're going
to go to the movies well they are found dead the next day Stefano was shot four times um two of these shots in the heart
and he was stabbed four times postmortem according to the investigator's reconstruction of the crime Susanna it
was shot five times and then like the others the other crimes she was pulled from the car and placed about 10 ft away
from the vehicle uh her female area is mutilated it was reported that when the two were found samanth sorry Susanna had
a chunk of hair in her hand now it's not clear if this chunk of hair belonged to
her boyfriend or if it belonged to the perpetrator of this crime for some strange reason captain
and this these are the things that Boggle the brain but for some strange reason this bit of evidence has been
lost over the years the hair yeah the the the hair that was reported to have been
found clenched in her hand uh and this part this next part is unlike any of the other attacks okay the
monster for some reason pulled the man's body out of the car this time and it is
believed that he did this because the body of the man was for some reason obstructing him from removing the girl's
body from the vehicle okay uh so Stefano's body was found laid out or let's say maybe more appropriately
Stefano's body was dumped or dropped by the driver's side door um the police reported that the driver's door was
jammed for some reason so this means that the monster carried the dead body of the man from the passenger side of
the vehicle pulling it out from the passenger side and took the time to carry it around the vehicle and then
dropping it on the driver's side of the vehicle which like you said before is different but the other two crimes but
it makes me wonder if this uh murderer is trying to like you know commit a perfect murder in his head and then to
create a perfect scene outside yeah you know what I'm saying no and you tapped into something
interesting there because one thing that I kept coming across when the description of this particular crime and
the rec construction of this crime comes up is it's often mentioned that there's
some kind of psychological factor in there that the the killer might be trying to separate the man from the
woman before he does the mutilation to the woman's body um so like you said that he might be he he's created in his
his mind the way he wants this thing to go down or the way that he wants it to look when it's found and he's going to
he's painting a picture for for people to see and I think you tapped into something very interesting there captain
now the of course the female victim her purse was dumped the contents was dumped
on the ground uh police were unable to determine if anything of the female victims was missing from the crime scene
they couldn't tell if she had missing jewelry or anything from her purse M um they did find some evidence you know
we're talking about a killer that so far has left very little evidence other than
the shell casings at the crime scene they found a size 11 shoe print uh near the vehicle um also not far from the
vehicle they found and this this is going to sound strange um they found a pyramid shaped black Basalt Stone uh is
found near that vehicle mhm uh uh what is one of these things that you're talking about okay so basically it's a
picture like a a like a rock you know that maybe somebody would try to to sculpt or shape into some kind of form
uh so this is a dark almost black or black um stone that someone has shaped into almost a pyramid
type shape okay uh I've seen pictures of this one it appears to be a little larger than two fists put together um so
pretty big yeah yeah and this is something that that we will come back to uh but this is this strange object is
found and noted as evidence in this particular crime now after this the murders take place there's another
strange phone call situation uh this is before the bodies were actually found someone called
Susanna's mother now the strange thing here is um I believe that that that Suzanne she you know she lived I know
she lived with her mother but the thing is I believe that they had recently moved that that they were living with
her her aunt uh pretty recently and once they had moved the number was not listed
at the time of Susanne's death um she did not her mother did not recognize the voice of the caller um she said that
that the caller said that they had important information about Suzanne that they needed to give to Suzanne's Mom
right then the call was disconnected for some reason maybe the caller hung up but
regardless it was disconnected and there was no further communication regarding whatever important information
this caller had to give to Susan's mother now keep in mind like we said at the top of this uh crime that Enzo
spetti is still behind bars during this whole attack and due to the attack matching that exactly of the monster not
exactly but well very close we have the body we have the male's body pulled from
the vehicle however we have the same gun used and the same ammunition used in this particular crime so Enzo spetti
cannot be the perpetrator of this crime and most likely cannot be the monster himself yeah possibly there's some other
theories about that um there was a lead in this case um There Was You know the phone call we discussed that um but
there was also a situ where suzan had told her mother that she believed she was being followed again we're hearing
the same thing time and time again captain that someone was following her in a car uh when she was out walking and
driving she didn't give a description of the vehicle to her mother um and she didn't say if it in fact was more than
one vehicle could have been possibly two vehicles but again we're seeing a vague
description of somebody watching or somebody being feeling though that they're being followed before they end
up being murdered yeah which goes to my original thought of you know possibly somebody stalking stalking their victims
we have so much more to get to regarding the monster of Florence and this case is
a huge one so we have a jamack day for you tomorrow we also want to thank all of you for joining us in the garage
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Florence is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Rich with history, monuments and art, it is truly one of the great cities. This city has been haunted and its people hunted. For nearly twenty years something crept in the dark ambushing it's prey. Over a dozen people have been murdered while parked in cars in the hills of Florence. This killer has been described as absolute evil. This is the story of the Monster of Florence.

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Brief Summary

The episode details the Monster of Florence, a serial killer targeting couples in the 1970s and 1980s, and the investigation that ensued.

Key points

The Monster of Florence. A chilling tale of a serial killer who terrorized Florence for nearly 20 years.
A Gruesome Double Homicide. The story begins with the tragic murder of a young couple in 1974.
Unsolved Mysteries. Investigators struggle to find leads in a case filled with strange encounters.
Vandalized Grave Raises Questions. Stefania's grave was vandalized, leading to speculation about the killer's connection to the victims.
The Monster of Florence Strikes Again. A couple is brutally attacked while parked for privacy, raising questions about the killer's motives.
Mario's Haunting Account. A journalist describes the unnaturally composed crime scene after the couple's murder.

Episode highlights

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This monster has not only ended many lives but destroyed families.

Describing the impact of the serial killer in Florence

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Tension

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