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garage and this is the case of Beverly [Music] pots [Music] Beverly Rose pots age 10 years old height 4' 11 and
weight about 90 lb classification endangered missing missing since August 24th 1951
from Cleveland Ohio Beverly is a Caucasian female with blonde hair and blue eyes she had her haircut as a short bob
with bangs she was wearing blue denim jeans and a reddish pink turtle neck Jersey with a navy blue Poppin jacket
and brown Cary Brook sports shoes loafers the last confirmed sighting of Beverly was at 9:30 p.m. at hollerin
Park she was last seen walking in the direction of her home Beverly Rose pots age 10 years old
height 4' 11 and weight about 90 lb classification endangered missing missing since August 24th 1951
from Cleveland Ohio this is true crime garage [Music] and this is the case of Beverly
[Music] [Music] pots this is Friday August 24th 1951 Beverly Potts is 10 years old and she's
living with her mom dad and sister on Lynette Avenue in Cleveland Ohio now this is on the west side of Cleveland
and it's summertime so Beverly she is enjoying the last few weeks of her summer break before she returns to
school she was due to enter the fifth grade that year Beverly is quite excited about the weekend she has already had
some plans scheduled she's planned to go with her sister and mother and father on
Saturday Beverly's sister lived as we said at the home with the family but she was quite a bit older than bever Beverly
Beverly's sister Anita was 22 years old at the time and the two of them lived with the parents and they were going to
go to ukd beach park for an all day outing on that Saturday so that's like a 12E difference so she's she's probably
like an accidental baby possibly possibly but to add to her excitement that Friday afternoon Beverly had
learned that the Show Wagon was coming to nearby hollerin park now the Show Wagon is sponsored by the Recreation
League and the Cleveland press and it was a kind of a summer tradition the Show Wagon was a group of singers
dancers M musicians musicians and magicians I kind of just rolled those words together he made up a new word and
other performers that traveled around to Cleveland uh to the different neighborhoods in Cleveland in the summer
months doing free performances at local playgrounds and other public venues so it's kind of like an arts festival type
thing yeah and this had become one of Beverly's favorite summertime activities now on this Friday Beverly was excited
of course uh but she was also a little bit nervous because she was going to need to ask permission to go to this
performance and she was currently in trouble with her parents her mother had grounded her from going to hollerin park
for two weeks because she had went there earlier and she had stayed out much later than she was allowed to uh but
even though she was grounded her mother is going to let her go see the show and Beverly is going to go with her best
friend and next neighbor Patricia swing well this is around the time uh I mean even in the 80s was kind of a thing so
I'm assuming this was kind of the same thing in the 50s where your parents would say yeah go out with your friends
ride your bikes do whatever you got to do but hey when the street lights come on get home or even before that once you
start seeing that that it's getting dark get home and not only for you know for the teenagers but for some of the
younger kids as well this is also kind of a social event right because you go there and there's going to be other kids
your age you haven't seen some of those kids because of the summer break you catch up with them you say hi maybe you
hope to see the the boy or the girl that you like or you know some friends that you haven't seen all summer long uh
after dinner Beverly is helping her mother clean up and dry the dishes and for her efforts her mother Elizabeth
gives Beverly and nickel for helping out around 700 p.m. Beverly and Patricia leave to go off to the park to see the
show wagon now they leave their homes on their bikes and Hollin Park is only about an eigh of a mile from their homes
on Lynette Avenue Hollin Park stretches for about three blocks from West 117th to West 120th Avenue yeah but when
you're like 10 years old 12 years old 15 you know all that stuff before you can drive your bike is a big deal I mean
that's your that's your means of transportation right so this is a the the park itself is a 133 acre Civic
recreational area with baseball diamonds basketball courts uh trapes bars and a shelter house uh the park was named for
William hollerin who was a sailor that was killed on the USS Arizona and at uh Pearl Harbor I I captain so the girls
leave for the park on their bikes uh but it's estimated that there were about 1,500 people at the park that evening so
the girls want to get off their bik and get a good spot so they can see the performance well they decide that it's
going to be very difficult to watch the performance and all the while keeping an
eye on their bicycles so they go home and they leave their bikes and return to Hollen Hollin Park on foot they arrive
at the park around 8:00 p.m. uh Patricia would later report that the two young girls didn't really talk to very many
people while they were there so this this was something they thought might be a social event and it didn't turn out to
be very social for them they arrived at 8:00 p.m. now around 8:40 p.m. it's starting to get dark out and Patricia is
trying to get Beverly to leave and go home as Patricia is supposed to be home by dark like the captain said make sure
you're home by dark uh it's starting to get dark and she wants to leave but Beverly informs her that uh she has been
given permission to stay until the performance is over I'm guessing her parents probably didn't know exactly how
late this would go because we're talking about two young girls that are you know
roughly 10 years old yeah it sounds like bever Beverly is trying to stay out on a
technicality yeah and she's already gotten in trouble for doing this once so maybe maybe this is something she's
pretty good at uh but she she tells Patricia you know I'm allowed to stay until until this whole thing's over uh
so Patricia leaves you know she doesn't want to get in trouble with her parents she decides to go home leaving her
friend to enjoy the show wagon performance by herself Patricia stared uh started walking home and her last
memory of Beverly is of her standing there watching the show with a plump little woman this is the young girl's
words the plum a plump little woman standing behind her with one hand on her shoulder and the other holding a small
child uh you know I got to cut in here for a second because I always found this to be you to
cut in on yourself I'm going to cut in I got to interrupt myself interrup myself
I always found this to be weird because they they said that they didn't talk to I always found you weird talk to hardly
anybody while they were there MH and yet she sees this woman standing behind her
friend with with the hand on the shoulder so this must be somebody she knows or feels comfortable with and the
plump little woman is holding a small child in the other hand it always intrigued me that that this was somebody
that Patricia says she didn't speak to and she didn't recognize obviously didn't know the person's name if she's
just giving a description of the woman but but is it clear that I mean you say the hand is on a shoulder he didn't say
the hand is on Beverly's shoulder that's what that's what it sounds like from Patricia's account that the woman had
her hand on Beverly's shoulder yeah that's odd mhm H again seeing how they didn't supposedly talk to anybody that
evening uh Beverly's family they are at home as we said an eighth of a mile away
uh Patricia arrives home safely she's the next door neighbor she arrives home safely at 900 p.m. and she never sees
her friend Beverly again after that now the the family is is watching this is Beverly's family they're at home uh all
of them it's the Father Robert Mother Elizabeth and the older sister Anita they are at home watching the Indians
Yankees game uh this is I would imagine this is probably what a lot of people what a lot of the grown-ups were doing
that evening because uh we know how big baseball is in Cleveland and we we all know how much the clevelanders dislike
the New York Yankees um and I think they were in a pretty heated race that year I
wonder if they're actually watching or if they were actually just listening to it on the radio well they were watching
it cuz uh you know TVs were relatively new at the time so I imagine most the people that had a TV at the time would
have been at home watching this game on that evening uh it's around 9:30 and they're starting
to get nervous because they've not seen Beverly she's not returned so they have Anita Anita the older sister calls the
swing household and ask about Beverly and and she's told you know yeah uh Patricia came home but she came home
alone and she's been here for you know a little over half an hour now um and we don't know where Beverly is now now well
here here's what's weird too is if they rode their bikes there first and then they then they went back to Beverly's
house right to drop off the bikes so then her her friend doesn't go back and pick up her bike she just walks home
well they live next door so presumably they they just went home and returned their bikes to their houses and then
left immediately I wasn't clear on that okay yeah I yeah I said they were neighbors but they were actually next
door neighbors right so they're they're also kind of friends by proximity right yeah age and
proximity um this raises the alarm Okay because now now their daughter's not home but they're extremely worried
because now they know that she's probably alone and that her friend you know strength and numbers right is is
now returned home and Beverly's not there so Mr Potts uh decides he's going to go to the park and he's going to look
for his daughter and he would gather up a couple neighbors to go to the park with him as we said this park is roughly
13 acres so it's it's fairly decent size and it's dark out now and I've I've also
read some descriptions of the neighborhood stating that they had several large trees like lots of large
trees on the streets of these neighborhoods so even though they had street lights they said that the the
park and the streets themselves were particularly dark because those trees covered up a lot of the lighting yeah
you'll see that noways when they build like a new Housing Development like it seems pretty bright and you can see
everything because the trees aren't mature yet and then once that neighborhood becomes mature you realize
wow this really gets a lot darker than than it it once was yeah yeah so they Mr pots and some of the neighbors they
search the park uh looking for Beverly and after searching for about an hour or so they call the police so we have
things happening at a very quick Pace here uh um you know we have the the girls arrive at the park around 8
Patricia leaves around 8:40 she's at home close to 9:00 9:30 the family realizes that Beverly's not where she
should be and within an hour of 9:30 the father along with a few other people have searched the park and they've
called the police and the police are quick to respond so now we have this 10-year-old you know that went missing
she just went to this event her parents can't find her so they go looking for her they get the police involved and now
we got to start figuring out all the little details and they start normally by you know the description of the
individual yeah typically they're going to want want the parents to tell them as
much as they can about the child what they were last seen wearing what they left the house and well and the fact
that you know she just left the house a little bit ago so it's not like she left
for school in the morning and we haven't seen her since what was she wearing I can't remember I mean she left the house
you know under two hours ago and we gave a description of of her in the trailer but there there's a little more detail
to it so I'll go through that now um as we said she's 10 years old height and weight she's about 4' 11 90 pounds uh
she's described as a Caucasian female with blonde hair blue eyes and she had recently cut her hair to a short bob
with bangs uh shortly before The Disappearance now if you look up images of Beverly pots you will see the the
typical image that comes up first is of her where she appears to be a little bit
younger and she has long hair um and because these are black and white photos it appears that she has dark hair but
her description clearly says blonde hair and then you'll see more recent photos of her with the the shorter haircut some
of her distinguishing characteristics uh she has wide set eyes and gaps between her teeth and her upper and lower
mullers have S silver fillings in them she has a vaccination scar on her upper left arm and a small scar over her left
eyebrow and a kidney-shaped birth mark about 1 in long and 38 of an inch wide on her InStep now one thing that that is
often described about uh Beverly when when you look up her case and look into her case is that she had a very
distinctive walk um it's described as duck-like you know she kind of walked with her toes pointing outward and and
this must have been very obvious to everyone because it's mentioned time and time again when they talk about her
disappearance so she was opposite of the captain cuz the captain wed yeah nobody ever told me either so
you never corrected it no uh as said she had that distinctive walk where she would walk with her toes pointed out out
uh she was considered tall for her age at the time of her disappearance and now looking back uh you know they continue
to give her description you know from time to time and one thing that they've included you know years afterward would
be that they suspect she would have grown to be a tall adult uh her clothing and jewelry description at the time that
she went missing she was believed to be wearing size 14 or 16 uh pants these were girls blue denim jeans uh with the
side zipper um and a bright it says bright red cotton panties um with no tag an elastic around the waist but no
elastic around the leg holes she was wearing green socks um a white cotton honey Lane under
t-shirt uh with a tag a reddish pink turtleneck Jersey With No Label a navy blue Poppin jacket with No Label both
Pockets torn size five or 5 A2 Brown Cary Brook sports shoes these are loafer style
shoes uh which had been resold and healed uh she also had two metal hair clasp with a brown plast with brown
plastic covers and a yellow gold ring this ring is similar to like a wedding ring and it has spaces for seven or
eight small stones but the stones were all missing right so probably something that a family member had and they just
handed to her and she was just happy to have that little ring as as a 10-year-old so I wonder if they knew all
this information uh based on like I mean it is what 51 yeah right so you know the
mom's probably laying out your clothes I mean that you kind of go through that as
a child it's like you wake up and there's like an outfit laid out for you you know and then you turn 16 and you
stop wearing those outfits well and you know when I first came across this case and looked into it I thought the
description of her clothes was very strange because it's very specific I mean even town like it's a they're a
little the no tag thing is weird did the mom pull out tags of things maybe that's
I that's what I'm guessing because I found it strange that the the size of the pants were either 14 or 16 um but
then we go into details whether we know what what clothing had tags and what didn't have a tag however when I got to
thinking about it you know not every size 14 is the same 14 for ofss so she may have wore 14 ofes and of
others but as said the no tag thing is a little bit weird and I always found it very strange that the bright red cotton
panties were listed there but now like if the mom is helping her pick out outfits and I think that's probably
exactly what was going on because Mr Potts he was a stage hand he he had a full-time job and Elizabeth pots his
wife she was a stay-at home she was a homemaker stay at home mom yeah which is more common back then yeah so uh she
probably had a very good idea of exactly what the girl was wearing because as the
captain said she might have been responsible for setting these clothes out for Beverly in the morning time or
uh you know she was probably up on the laundry you know what what's getting washed When and and when things are
getting used and and making sure that her daughter is dressed appropriately so I do commend the parents for being able
to provide such a detail description because sometimes when children go missing uh there are valuable minutes
and hours lost because sometimes people don't have an upto-date picture of their
child or they don't have a great idea of what the kid may have been wearing that
day or you know these little details do matter and when you're trying to piece them together and provide the police
with information you could lose valuable time here trying to recall these these things and and kind of asking others you
know what was she wearing yeah and if you don't pay attention to what like you said what she wear what she's wearing
when she left for this event and then you know she's wearing some jacket that they find later and and you you have is
this her jacket I don't know I have no clue right and then that's where then you is this jacket a lead or not so yeah
I mean it's very important kind of um mental checks of that stuff so that's a more indepth uh more detailed
description of the items that she was wearing and her distinguishing characteristics and now we are on to the
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investigation for the disappearance of Beverly Rose pots now this would end up going down in history as one of the
largest searches for a missing person in the Cleveland Ohio history within hours there are thousands of
clevelanders there that are searching for this girl the postal carriers are given a description of Beverly and
posters with her picture are going up on utility poles and windows all over the city yeah with that within hours but you
know basically start the start of the next day ex she went missing at night exactly um now there were there were a
lot of eyewitnesses a lot of supposed eyewitnesses in this case as we had said there were about 1,500 people present at
the park that evening now unfortunately out of those 15,000 I'm sorry 1500 people out of those 1500 there were not
a lot that came forward with information to the police regarding having seen Beverly pots or know her whereabouts or
if they had seen her with somebody else um so what what the police police end up
doing is we had said this was um this was late August well school was starting for these children in September now the
police don't know everybody that was in in attendance at the park that evening so one thing that they do is they start
going to Beverly school when school starts up in September to interview a lot of the kids that were her age to
find out if they were in fact at the park that evening and if they were if they had seen anything
now they get a lot of stories from these kids yeah I mean I would I would assume
this presents a problem this end because because first of all Cheers Cheers no but I think this would present
a big problem because you're now asking kids to remember event that happened weeks ago mhm and whether they were
there or not some people will just come forward because they want to be a part of the process and say that there were
somewhere that they weren't at ever so right right well and picture these kids these are young kids that they're
interviewing right Beverly was 10 years old yeah they're interviewing 9 10 11 year old kids and a lot of them had
probably heard about this before they went back to school and they're young they don't really understand the
situation and what's going on now as said there were thousands of clevelanders out looking for this girl
so there's no way that they probably didn't hear about it uh and in fact a few days after uh her disappearance
there was a a front page editorial that was entitled let's all help look for the missing child you know
and so this was going on throughout the entire city everybody was aware of this now when they sit down and they start
talking to these kids um they are finding out that you know these are kids and teenagers and
the police figure out early into the goings on here that they need to be hesitant about some of the stories that
they are hearing in fact a lot of these stories were they're hearing them and they're as they're writing them down and
taking their notes they're going well this is not a likely story this everything I'm hearing right now
probably didn't happen um you know and in most of the cases these ended up being proven lies that they were hearing
from the children uh you know some of these kids they wanted they may have wanted the attention or some of them
wanted to be a part of the whole thing as we said this was a very big story and maybe not Flatout lies but just you know
misspeaking or you know or misremembering I mean I don't think the kids intentions were you know there was
no malice behind it no I agree but but you also have to keep in mind too maybe these kids you know were were you at a
park August 24th you know and you're you're 9 or 10 or 11 years old and being asked this a week or two later um kids
don't remember where they were two weeks before and and on top of that you know did you see Beverly pots with anybody
have you seen Beverly pots since then maybe they don't know exactly who she is and then well she's a girl about your
age and she's about this height and then you know kids kids I think naturally want to be helpful well we have evidence
though I mean we have evidence that um Beverly went to this park often she was grounded before for from going to this
park and staying out too late so we can just assume that this is a park that's frequented by the children that live in
that area so did you see her at the park yes I did but was it that day maybe not
right right and again if they didn't know who she was and there going oh yeah I did see a little girl that night and I
maybe I was at the park that exact night that you're asking me about but there were 1500 people there there were a lot
of little girls there and at some point Beverly pots becomes the only important girl there that evening and did you see
her yes I saw a little girl and I saw her do this or that uh one of the eyewitnesses and we won't go through all
of them as we said there's so many that were just bad leads and unfortunately the police had to follow up on most of
them uh if they if they were unable to determine if it was a lie or or just a madeup story immediately but one of the
eyewitnesses was a 9-year-old girl she had said that she saw Beverly pots get into a green car with two boys in it now
this sounds like a good lead however no one else reported having seen this take place uh and the boys themselves could
not be identified by the eyewitness and she was not able to provide a decent description of the vehicle or the boys
themselves M uh but that gives you an example of of some of the eyewitness accounts that they were getting from the
school AG children now maybe the last person to see Beverly well other than you know her murderer or abductor as we
could probably assume by now uh was Fred Krauss now he's a 13-year-old boy and he
recalled seeing Beverly at around 9:30 okay this would have been after the show wagon performance had ended and
everybody was kind of leaving the park at this time and he said that he saw Beverly and he this is one account that
they believe to be true because he said some things you know details about this disappearance where he says you know I
well how did you know it was Beverly he said I knew it was her right away because she walked funny and and was
able to tell that it was her he was actually riding home on his bicycle from the park that night and he said that he
had um you know was coming down the street and she kind of jumped out of his way so he could continue on his bike now
he saw her this would have be been around 9:30 after the performance had ended and she was walking home alone and
the direction that he said she was heading would indicate to him and everybody else that she was in fact
heading home yeah and this park like we like we mentioned multiple times is it's
less than a mile it's 8 miles away from an e of a mile an eighth of a mile yeah okay so so really small window and then
he sees her at what distance I mean we could be talking that she was that she went missing basically blocks from her
house yeah and how many blocks I mean if he's you know it could have been one block from her house right that's what's
so crazy about a lot of Disappearing you know cases it's just you know one minute
they're there one minute they're gone and and the proximity to her house that's that's crazy and I believe his
account to be true because one he saw her within feet of her you know it wasn't from across the way and he's
roughly her age so he would know who she was and he he pointed out to the officers that he recogn he knew it was
her he knew it was her from behind he said when he come up on his bike he knew it was going to be her because she was
walking funny she had that that duck walk right and he's not saying I saw a girl he's saying I saw Beverly exactly
that's a big difference exactly now another thing that came into play here uh that was that was bad for the police
and bad for the investigation was two months after Beverly's disappearance a man called the family now I need to set
this up a little bit better here okay because the at the time of her disappearance they were receiving tips
and when I say they I mean the police and the pots family they're receiving tips that are being called into the
police station and to the pots family's household as well you'll see later on I mean this is 1951 so I don't know if
they tap the the Potts family house or not but that's something you'll see later I
mean if you think about the John Benet Ramsey case you know the girl goes missing then they set up they start
wiretapping the the house for any leads that might come in or some suspicious calls but yeah so and this is also 1951
where people's numbers are normally listed mhm and the cruel thing here is I'm going to fast forward past this this
incident for just a second but the cruel thing here is eventually the pots family
they were in the phone book and eventually they had to make their number unlisted right because they were
receiving harassing phone calls and uh menacing phone calls you know people taunting them at some point with
pranksters that's ridiculous this would take place I I think it might have been a year or so after The Disappearance
that they had to phone number I mean think about some sicko was just sitting there with their number deciding I got
this i got this prank to pull on the family and and it could have been anything what I mean what are you
thinking like you know like all I have her we want the ransom or all I saw her but I didn't see her I mean cuz there's
there's also that CA that that stuff happens too you know where a girl goes missing and some crazy loon that has no
freaking life is sitting there going well what if I call them and tell them I saw her mhm then I get to talk to
somebody you see what I'm saying oh yeah there's there's sickos out there well and and
you know there were there was a journalist and an investigator that I read about regarding this case
specifically that said that for some reason the disappearance of Beverly pots brought out every nut pot and nut
cracker cracker out of the woodwork uh because they were receiving nut cracker I think I yeah uh I said Nutcracker
earlier that's what that's it slipped in there um but they were receiving so many
calls and they estimate that they were receiving about a thousand phone calls a day between the pots household and the
police department now this makes it very hard to uh investigate this case um but
one such incident was this this was two months after The Disappearance as I said
a man had called the family and demanded a $25,000 ransom for the safe return of
Beverly pots okay and he said he said that we have your daughter and um that if we do not get the
$225,000 ransom we are going to Slit her throat so now a threat is made a ransom
is demanded and the way that this was to go down is that the family was to deliver they're not to involve the
police right they are to deliver Cas that's how it always goes down right don't if you tell the police we're going
to kill her that's normally what happens yeah I think that's pretty standard uh Ransom template yeah but how many times
do they to the parents then just call the the police yeah can can you imagine being in that situation to you know yeah
gut would say get the police involved I I think you know I don't know that I would Mel Gibson it and just is that the
Mel Gibson movie where he just does it on his own yeah but the that's the strange thing too I mean you know U
being a parent if you're you know if you're parent and you get this call and we have your daughter and and obviously
you want her home safe and you just want this here to be over with and don't contact the police I wouldn't there be
like I mean your gut instinct is okay let's call the police but isn't there part of you going what do these people
know and are they going to know I contacted the police and in how many cases was there a ransom apparent
contacted the police and then that ended up causing the death of the child right
you know and then and and then you know the regret that you'd F of that well presumably you know one would think that
the ransom is only as good as as the living uh you know person that I'm holding to to to give back in in in
favor for the money if if if I if I kill the the the victim or the hostage then I'm not going to receive my Ransom but I
see what you're saying these things get screwed up and they go wrong now the pots family did let the police know
about this Ransom that was called in okay and what they were told you know they were
told with the threat about the daughter's life but they were told to deliver $25,000 in cash to a specific address
that was not terribly far from their neighborhood now they involved the police which the park is not far from
the neighborhood so now you're making this connection where well this is now something that might be likely mhm now
the the pots family they lived in a in a decent area it was a reg middle class family but it's not one that you would
look at this family and assume that they got a bunch of money to just pay out for
have their child returned um what they end up doing is uh one of the detectives he dresses up uh like Mrs pots because
Mrs pot pots was the one that was told to deliv deliver the money right right so he puts on like this I don't know
like a trench coat or like a a fur coat you know something that that looks like a women's coat uh and he ties his hair
up you know with the well guys don't wear fur coats I well some of them do but this look like's coat Conor McGregor
Joe namoth they yeah these are three guys that like to wear fur coats uh and so he dressed himself up to appear to be
a woman now I've seen pictures of this man dressed I'm sorry to laugh but I've seen him dressed as a woman and he is
he's kind of a larger big hands athletic looking man uh that I don't know that he
would have passed for Elizabeth pots don't look at me I'm hideous well apparently whomever he was to deliver
the money to uh picked up on this and saw the detective coming yeah well when you see a guy that looks like a
linebacker and a fur coat you start going well I don't know I don't and if this person lived in the area then we
could also assume if this is a legitimate Ransom note a legitimate kidnapping that this person probably
knew of the pot's family and what the lady looked like the only thing that gets a little weird about this is like
we said she was a tall kid so maybe uh the mother was a tall lady herself but again she probably didn't look like a
linebacker right with sausage fingers you know giant sausage fingers coming at you and you're going wait a second well
and it turns out that this man that was seeking The Ransom he didn't actually live at the address that he was
requesting them to go to he gave them a specific date specific time to give the money hand it off to this person well
what's so crazy is you know criminals are normally stupid so I wouldn't it wouldn't baffle me or blow my mind if
you told me oh he actually lived there you know but you know but he yeah he did the the smarter thing as a criminal to
just give you some address you know so the detective dresses up like uh Mrs pots mhm and he they fill a bag um this
is to be the money bag that he's going to hand off they filled the bag with shredded newspaper and a five a single $
five bill which I'm not certain why they included any money at all but uh I don't
know maybe if they had to open up the bag and you want them to see some kind of money um but five bucks is as much
they could scrape together for this sting operation but you know being a banker you know you uh I was a vault
teller so what would happen is uh normally Tuesdays they'd come in with a big bag of money right and they drop off
the bag of money then I have to count all the money to make sure that we got the correct amount of money uh from that
the money service and you'd be surprised sometimes you'd just you know order hundreds and 50s and you know 10 grand
would look tiny you know or 100,000 could look just like a brick you know so in these movies where they open up a
suitcase and it's just filled you know and it looks like oh this is 100,000 bucks like I've seen 100,000 bucks and
depending on what denomination of money it comes in it can be quite small right and you start looking like that 100,000
you can slip in your pocket and maybe you know invest that into some recording equipment and start a podcast not saying
that happen I'm just saying that it's a possibility the man that is to receive the money he knows something is is going
on here when he sees the person that is supposed to be Elizabeth Potts walking toward the the address to give him the
money okay so I just I'm just making this clear for myself so the guy that is supposedly holding this girl for ransom
right is now suspicious of the linebacker in the fur coat right the linebacker with the sausage fingers in
the fur coat is now suspicious of the ransom guy because this girl that is walking with him that is supposed to
be Beverly no no no I think you mis misunderstood me it gets confusing because because I keep referring to the
the detective who's dressed as a woman as a she once in a while so there there is actually no she in this situation
okay the detective is supposed to be Elizabeth pots the mother because the ransom person did not want any males
around did not want Mr Potts delivering the money because Mr Potts might be able
to overtake him uh you know and take the guy down uh so he requests that Elizabeth Potts bring the money to this
address at this time on this date okay the detective dresses up as a woman right trying to look like Mrs pots M
he's going there with the bag of cut up newspaper in a $5 bill right and before he can get to the address the man that
is waiting there okay freaks out because the this does not look like a woman right he's a linebacker and so he takes
off on foot okay and what ends up happening is the detective ends up chasing the guy down and he he makes an
arrest yeah good for him they're able to figure out after talking to the guy and
going through the guy's home and his vehicles and things like that that this guy had nothing to do with the
disappearance of Beverly pots right just again a sicko getting involved and maybe
trying to go hey I got this great idea to get 25,000 bucks you're exactly right he was a guy that was heavily in debt he
saw what he thought of as an opportunity and he took that opportunity to try to extort money from parents of of a
missing child yeah um and of course he ends up getting you know they they should tack on years for that you're
exactly right Not only was your crime stupid mhm but you know you're now affecting a grieving family and a
grieving community and you're wasting taxpayers time and money by getting this linebacker to wear a fur coat and Chase
your ass down and Tackle you yeah we're going to tackle on three years yeah yeah
I mean you're you're preventing Justice from taking place because you're you're getting invol in the investigation and
you're taking up the police's time that they could be out you know they a thousand calls a day they had other
calls to go out on and this is a sting operation this isn't something that they just threw together in five minutes they
probably spent a little bit of time coming up with what is our best solution here do we actually send Elizabeth Potts
with $25,000 and just hope that she gets her daughter back or do we intervene um so he ends up getting
charged with extortion and um you know all kinds of other things I'm sure and I I hope that in this situation if they
don't currently they should as the captain says tack on extra years for for that kind of shameful behavior um but
this just shows you the things that the police had to deal with in this investigation yeah but one thing I do
want to bring up too here Captain is we talked about this Ransom now you know for all the other True Crime fans out
there the True Crime lovers that that spend their time reading and looking things up on the internet and reading
these different books or watching old documentaries you you know that back in the day and you know I'm referring to
the 30s 40s 50s back then it was more expected to receive a ransom that it is in current times you know unfortunately
in current times when we see a child or some or an adult go missing we either expect that they're going to turn up
soon or that they've they've were Tak and we might notar from them again um but back in the day they actually it was
more common place to receive a ransom and a lot probably a lot of them being false well you're you're on to something
there but a lot of them were in fact true you know a lot of people this is how some of the the poor folks made some
money you know that they they would be out and they would they would abduct a wealthy person's child and return them
unharmed and trade for 10 Grand or 20 grand or whatever it was that happened more often but just like the captain
said because sometimes that doesn't happen because sometimes people take another person for other reasons other
than a ransom that sometimes other people would just call in a ransom and hope to get something out of this
tragedy um usually in a situation though when a when a ransom is demanded it's usually fairly quickly after the
abduction you know it's not often that you see think police detec and using their
knowledge and they probably presumed that this was not uh may not end well and that might be why they didn't advise
the Potts family to actually pay the ransom maybe this is why they didn't advise Elizabeth Potts to go and hand
off the money herself um and that's why they intervened so we got this this just
kind of comes to the crash and we get this guy in jail now but do we have any other good leads that like anything
solid well another good bit of detective work that the police did was they did fully investigate the pots family um you
know as difficult as that can be but you do have to rule out the immediate family
as quick as possible so you can go on to other possible suspects well yeah but one we don't have a body right we don't
have a body and we have no we have three people at the house that it's it's not like again
I'm going to bring up the John B Ramy case but in that case we have a we have a dead girl why the family is all there
mhm so they become I think more Prime suspects than in this case yeah but the other thing I just want to make sure I
pointed that out too because often we will hear you know you see this on Dateline or other shows where they're
like you know this person went missing or or so and so turned up dead and uh by the way they didn't
investigate the family until months and months after the fact uh this was not the case here so there's no reason to
believe that U Mr pots or Mrs pots or her sister had anything to do with with this crime at all it's a difficult
situation for the cops to be in yeah you know because here's this girl going missing and it's tragic and there's a
lot of emotions going and a lot of emotions that are that are coming at the family
and then you have to then say hey I got to question you what's your involvement and one thing that I've always done on
my own when I'm looking at a missing person's with a missing child case I should be very clear about this but you
know you can find these stories of missing children that have never surfaced that we've never seen them ever
again after that that last time they were seen right but one thing I always like to do when I'm looking at a case
like that is I like to see what the parent parents did with their lives after the fact because I'll clue you you
know I'll throw this at you like there there was a case that took place in Michigan now this would have been in the
late 80s and we won't get into this whole case but the short of it is the sun went
missing and I found the circumstances to be a little strange and maybe had had a
feeling maybe the father could have been involved in it because of where he was last seen and such things of that nature
the family moved away like they moved away like 9 or 10 months after the sun had disappeared yeah which is weird
because you would assume that you know if he if there's a chance of him coming home yeah you know you want to give that
you know a bunch of Windows and it's kind of like the John uh Johnny gosh case as well too look at look at the the
path the mother took and the path that the father took and a lot of people now speculate that the father was involved
because of his actions afterwards so say that you're doing yeah and I mean you know you see this time and time again
where you have a child that's gone missing and they're missing for an extensive amount of time and you might
hear an interview with the parents 10 or 11 years later and they say we've not moved we've thought about moving because
the memories are so hard for us to deal with but but we would not be able to live with ourselves if if the chance
that our daughter or son got away from whomever and tried to come home and and we weren't there you know if they didn't
know any other means me of contacting us uh they wouldn't be able to live with themselves so this was not the situation
with the pots family I'll go ahead and throw that out there uh the pots family remained in the home for many many years
and as said they were cleared pretty quickly by the police the other thing that the police did was they searched
the neighborhoods because we know she was on foot and the thought would have been this is one thing that we didn't
cover when we were talking about her characteristics she was very shy and almost to the point of being afraid of
men and older boys um they had said on multiple occasions you know if approached by a man or an older boy that
she was likely to walk away or run away from a situation okay and her parents had raised her to be uh well she was
very obedient one and and a polite young young child but they yeah and more this
is not common these days yeah and they they they had raised her as well to be weary of men and and boys um so once the
police had this information they were immediately worried about this because it she was not likely to go off with
somebody she didn't have that personality so the police were working under a couple different theories one
that she either was taken by somebody that knew her or that she somewhat knew uh or that she was she would have been
lured into a vehicle or to a car but it would most likely have to be somebody she was somewhat familiar with that they
didn't expect her to just get in a car with a random yeah possibly or by physical Force yeah and and she I guess
even though being young you know even as young as she was she was known to have babysat for different Neighbors in the
in the area um right so that would give her a bunch of connections and a bunch of possibilities of uh suspects really
and one one police theory that they were working off of that maybe she was maybe
she was coaxed into a house with the thought of maybe the being offered a babysitting job yeah or just it's this
uh you know Dad of a kid that you watched multiple times and you're walking home and he just says Hey
Beverly come in here for a second and then course he's not a stranger and then you're also thinking like you know this
is somewhat my employer so I need to you know comply with his with his request so
not only did they go door too and ask the people living there if they had seen anything or witnessed anything that
evening or since uh but they have they've also were requesting to enter the homes and to you know casually look
around uh to see if there was anything that was of suspicious be nature right um and the majority of the people seem
to comply with this um it must have been so much the majority that it almost sounds like when you read
different newspaper accounts of this investigation that it sounds like everybody was opening their doors um but
but they do specifically say uh those who who agreed to do such another suspect is William Henry Redmond he was
a carnival worker who died in 1992 he had a long criminal record for child molestation this beginning when he was a
young boy uh but he had been years old right yeah he had been awaiting trial for the 1951
murder of an eight-year-old girl her name was Jane elop now he had died before they could convict him of this
well but this is where it gets a little sketchy because he died in 1992 correct and the murder took place in 51 yes so
it took him a long time to bring this man to trial yeah okay yeah took a long time and while he was you you know he
had a cellmate that he had he had told that he had killed Jane as well as three other little girls um we should point
out though that uh the authorities did question him regarding the Beverly pots case this took place in
1988 uh he did refuse to make a statement either way about her disappearance um he did pass a polygraph
uh in connection to another unsolved disappearance of a girl from Connecticut uh but this was a man as said he was a
carnival worker so he traveled around right and he had given these you know this these accounts to the cellmate that
he had abducted and killed four girls now while waiting for this trial the the thing here is the cellmate believes that
he had heard um he had heard that William Henry Redmond call you know say Beverly's name
he couldn't say for certain if it was Beverly pots but he believes that the girl that he was describing uh sounded
like Beverly pots however I believe Redman said that he had killed the girl in 1952 so he could have been off
because you know he's telling this story years and years later right um however he he could have simply unfortunately
killed a different girl at a different location in 1952 um yeah I mean he could get mixed up on
the time I mean it's not that far off I mean month-wise um and again like I said he could have
abducted this girl if he's a carnival worker he's traveling from town to town he's not going to know who the girl's
name is and yes you would hear this stuff in your local news but you know this stuff wasn't national news back in
51 you know a girl went missing in Cleveland Ohio they're not bringing it up there's not Nancy Grace ain't you
know she's not going to go do three months on this missing girl mhm now after William Redmond dies you know he
passes away and 92 he's on trial for this the death of this young girl uh but things get weirder even after he passes
away um you know CU he's suspected of possibly being Beverly pot's killer in 1994 a letter was discovered underneath
the carpet of a house on Midvale Avenue on the west side of Cleveland this is near the neighborhood of Beverly pots
the letter was written in 1960 by a woman who claimed that she had CAU her woman disposing of Beverly's body in
their furnace Now using real estate records the police identified and track down the writer of the letter okay uh
who was at the time 83 when they tracked her down by 1994 her husband had had been passed
away for some time the woman did admit to writing the letter but she had said that the story was untrue that she had
wrote the story as a it's listed as an as in a revenge against her husband because he he physically abused her for
years right um however I I believe that it was you know the long of it is it's it's not really Revenge I think she her
abuse might been have been so bad that maybe she believed he he could possibly end up killing her one day and had that
taken place maybe she wrote this letter as something to kind of leave lying around for someone to find if she were
not around anymore you see what I'm saying yeah I see that but it's you know look and I've said it before and I
always get called a feminist uh I'm just a dude man I'm just a C I'm just the captain but look if some if a guy's
hitting you get the get out of there there's plenty of nice guys that want to take care of you that want to protect
you get get away from those [ __ ] losers okay no I I agree right but but so so I feel for this lady but at the
same time you're going to Brin into this this girl's case and This Girl's family
and then so yeah okay so let's say hypothetically something does happen to you and and so there's this letter lying
around and he goes to jail because of this and there's not much evidence what what is there connecting you know what I
mean and then this poor family you know gets dragged into this thinking that they might get some closure for their
missing daughter you know protect yourself stay away from [ __ ] losers you know there's plenty of guys out
there that will take care of you but don't drag into you know a missing girls family into this I agree but but we can
also you know possibly assume here that if she was going willing to go to such extreme lengths to um to you know get
Justice against her husband you know for killing her if she thought that he could
possibly kill her that maybe she felt that this situation was one that she was unable to leave or didn't feel safe
leaving so but at the end of the day she says this this letter has no truth to it
correct correct and and her husband had been dead for some time at that that point she may have forgotten about this
letter because they had to track her down you know they found this underneath a rug at at the home that she once lived
um and in 19 um I apologize we're all the way up to the year 2000 uh and in 2000 2000
an unidentified individual wrote two letters to the Cleveland plane dealer reporter uh to a reporter at the
Cleveland plane dealer uh the the writer stated that he was dying and he had confessed to molesting and murdering
Beverly the night that she had vanished the Letter's author promised that he would turn himself into the police on
August 24th 2001 this would be the 50th anniversary of Beverly's disappearance wow but but shortly before this date a
third letter was sent to the Cleveland plane dealer this is saying that he had to go to a nursing home and thus he was
going to not be able to keep his promise revealing his identity or turning himself in I actually read uh one of the
letters I was able to find one of the letters I wish I could have found all three but I read one and he basically
states that he had lived in the neighborhood okay and he had seen her and always been kind of infatuated with
her uh he you know we noted earlier that she was tall and he he he said that he thought she was a little bit older uh
but he was infatuated with her and when he saw her walking home that night by herself he saw this is an opportunity
for him to to take her and um you know he he says that I'm only writing this to you because I'm in my Twilight years
that I'm at the end of the end of my life and that um that he wanted to turn himself in right so he felt bad I
believe I believe he even gave his ages 83 years old uh at the time that he wrote that letter and he St so what does
that put him in 51 so it would have been uh he was trying to turn himself in on the 50th
Anniversary so that would have put him at about 32 you know early 30s yeah so roughly
our age her disappearance and uh and no but I'm just saying like to get the mental state of where this guy was at I
mean he's in his 30s and he has this Obsession or you know he says uh what was his term was he said he was
infatuated Beverly pot right he has an infatuation but he's 30 some years old and has a infatuation with a 10-year-old
even if she looks a little older she's 12 right right right right um he he had said that he would turn himself in at
the park at hollerin Park he was going to go there on the 50th anniversary and they could arrest him there and he would
confess to the crimes um upon that uh upon that date and as said he he states that he he had to go to a um a nursing
home I believe that he said that he had he had got cancer or his cancer was progressing um and that he needed to go
to the nursing home and would be unable to keep his promise uh turning himself in now the authorities did launch an
extensive investigation to identify the author of the letters but they were never able to ascertain anything beyond
that the letters were all written by the same person and that their author was probably an elderly infirm man um the
many investigators believe that the correspondence was genuine um and if I've seen the letters they're written in
cursive with a shaky hand um I don't know that that means that it has to to be an old person but I think that that's
what they're basing um some of this information off of yes this this pretty interesting though so we have two
letters that are basically setting up the you know him turning himself in then a third letter apologizing yeah and he
was picking the area he was picking the anniversary mhm again stuff that you could just look up off the internet
again this could just be I mean where do you fall on this cuz I mean Part of Me Goes got feeling some sicko that's just
lonely but if you toss in that this guy might be 80 some years old do you do you
really think a 80-year-old would just be doing this to get attention no I mean it
seems like it lines up with the idea of I'm coming to my end and I need to confess to this for for some kind of
forgiveness or right remorse I need to show remorse like a a deathbed confession but I'm going to confess now
before while I still have all my mental capabilities and I and I can be honest and come come clear with this um I don't
know I I hate to think that it's a hoax you would think that after 50 years that
you might be able to get an answer I but but I but again if it's a deathbed confession you almost think that
somebody would carry through with this and turn themselves in right um so I kind of lean on the side of a hoax yeah
but it could have been it could have been as simple as the guy has you know my cancer getting worse and he talks to
somebody he says yeah they do take care of you in prison mhm but the care is going to be very minimal yeah and this
was not the first um correspondence that they were receiving you know the Cleveland plane dealer they immediately
sent the uh letters to the police they did not post these in their newspaper well and this is 2001 so at this point
they're probably even being sent to the FBI yeah and they didn't put put this in
their newspaper because they were worried if if they put it in the newspaper before the 50th Anniversary
that the man wouldn't actually turn himself in so there was no involvement with media other than doing the proper
thing by passing along the letters to the police they didn't get involved and then hinder this man from turning
himself in now this wouldn't be the first correspondence that investigators had with somebody who claimed to either
be the killer or know the killer um back in the I believe it was the' 70s there was a man that came forward that wrote
letters well I he came forward but he had some form of correspondence with the police and said that his brother had
done the killing now they there was an auto body shop uh in the neighborhood now keep in mind this is the 70s so
you're talking about 20 years after the crime right but this this person had said that the brother did The Killing
and that the body was buried in the basement uh this would have been a home at one time and that the brother
supposedly lived at the home kidnapped her and killed her and buried her in the basement well they
went they went by they in the 7s they went to this body shop and they dug up concrete floor and I mean they went I
think I think the newspaper said they went 4 feet down you know so they went pretty far down before they realized
there was nothing there there was nothing this was this was another hoax in this situation now we're not
completely at not necessarily a hoax though I mean it might you know the the brother actually might have believed
this you know um there is some form of Hope here though and I know it sounds crazy because we're talking about you
know 60 60 years has passed right um over 60 years has passed and we don't have any answers but we still have the
letters so I mean we can try to do DNA testing and this guy might have been in the system by then in 2001 well in
2015 somebody had called Crim Stoppers an anonymous caller called Crim Stoppers and and gave some information to Crim
Stoppers regarding The Disappearance and murder of Beverly pots now this is very
strange because this is so many years later well what Crim Stoppers did was they actually increased the reward
amount um that they were offering for information on Beverly pots why because when they gave the information to
investigators the investigators made a public plea that you know using the newspaper and using news sources they
made a public plea to have the caller please call back that you can remain anonymous you you can contact us on the
website if you like but we need to hear from you again because they believed that some of the information they
received they didn't feel like this was a hoax I don't know what information they received they didn't say you know
they weren't outright with with information that they received but there was something in there that they were a
they were latching on to and they wanted to hear from this person and again again
increasing the reward amount um to this date um you know that was mid uh last year mid 2015 so it's been over a year
and we've not heard back from this Anonymous person well and the frustrating thing for True Crime fans is
you know it's an ongoing case it's an open case so a lot of times the police department will not um you know release
this information and that's difficult as a as a fan of the genre but uh we all understand that as far but sometimes I
understand it but sometimes I get a little frustrated cuz it's like maybe there is one thing that if you toss out
to the public it would it would spark you know some you know interest or some conversation or something and we could
solve a you know this case that's been going on for 30 or 60 some years yeah yeah and I I think it's even you know
for me at the end of the day do do I have an idea what I think happened well uh it's hard to think that somebody took
her and then raised her as their own you know this being so many years later and
and we haven't heard anything or any new information come out regarding that the
police did have a very tough investigation that there was you're not talking about a whole lot of evidence
you know you're talking about a whole lot of people and not really any eyewitnesses um the the thing that I
keep going back to over and over get in my head is who is that plump little lady
right uh that had her hand on her shoulder I I believe her friend um I believe that this would be such a severe
thing for this young child for this Patricia swing to have experienced that I believe that she would be telling
absolutely the either the truth or something she believed to be the truth maybe she didn't see that but maybe
maybe she thought she saw that um but the thing here is we talked about how and it could have been something as
simple as this lady was behind her and the Hand wasn't on the shoulder yeah or just or or or happen to bump into her
and just said oh sorry honey and kept walking and that was the right yeah but the but the thing Curious Thing here is
the pots family did say that Beverly would have been weary of men and older boys and so the police did have a theory
that maybe she was enticed by a woman that a woman could have been involved in the abduction um but as said there was
that tip that came out last year hopefully we hear something uh about this because this was one of the biggest
uh cases and it still haunts um some of the Cleveland area to this day well what
a great way to start uh season 4 you go back to Ohio that's right I keep telling
people you're going to get away from Ohio so people will start visit you know that our uh you know people taking
vacations to Ohio have has gone down since we started the podcast unfortunately these things are
happening in in everywhere um and we we happen to cover more Ohio cases because we know of them um and but I do want to
you might I want to throw out a little safety tip here Captain okay okay so as our listeners know uh we have been
involved in the past and will continue to be involved with the national Center for missing and exploited children now
um they have something that that has recently come out called it's a safety app it's a free it's a free app to
download for iTunes or iPhone and Android devices um and it's called Safety Central so I won't go through the
entire bit of it but I recommend if you have children or if you're a grandparent
uh you know that you you put this on your phone and it's it's basically it's an identification kit for the children
that are special to you for the children that you know and that you care about and it you're going to be able to put
important information about each child on there as well as a photo uh we had discussed earlier if there is a
disappearance of a child unfortunately you know hopefully nobody ever has to experience
but if if you find your in the situation you do not want to lose valuable minutes
and hours trying to find these things for the police now thankfully we live in a digital age so there's a lot more
pictures being taken of people so and not only pictures but videos now yeah so it's a it's more commonplace today that
you would have an updated photo but what your ID kit will do again this is safety
Central uh get the free app but what it will do is it will remind you every so often to update the photo of the child
that information and all that stuff yeah so I recommend checking that out and like always if we get any new
information on this case we'll dive right back into it and uh if you know anything right you can contact us at the
blog on uh true Crim garage.com and uh what's this week's recommended reading well and also if you
want to remain anonymous you can contact uh Crim Stoppers you know they're looking for information as well
recommended reading for this week is the main AC in the bushes True Crimes and disasters from the streets of Cleveland
and more Tales of Cleveland wo by John Stark Bellamy II um this is an interesting book uh it does it does talk
about the Beverly pots disappearance um there's lots of photos in here people like the the different photos for uh the
True Crime stuff but there also is the uh torso killer is covered in this book as well which has been a case that's
been recommended to us oh about a million times um so if you want to check out uh more cases from
Ohio specifically the Cleveland area check out the maniac in the bush bushes by John Stark Bellamy II and you can do
that by going to our website true Crim garage.com and click on the recommended page and thank you for everybody joining
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Welcome to Season 4 of True Crime Garage! Remember when your parents would say "make sure you are home before dark?" Well this is one of those stories. In 1951 in a nice neighborhood on the westside of Cleveland, ten year old Beverly Potts did not make it home. She had gone to a nearby park with Patricia her best friend and neighbor. When it started to get dark Patricia left and went home while Beverly decided to stay. Last seen walking home by herself she left all of us asking "what happened to Beverly?" Today we take shelter from the snow and cold and gather in the garage to discuss one of Ohio's greatest mysteries.

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the 1951 disappearance of Beverly Potts in Cleveland, Ohio, and the ongoing search for answers.

Key points

Beverly's Disappearance. Beverly Potts, a 10-year-old girl, goes missing after a performance at Hollin Park.
The Show Wagon Performance. Beverly attends a local performance at Hollin Park, excited for the event.
Family's Growing Concern. Beverly's family becomes worried when she doesn't return home after dark.
Search Begins. Beverly's father and neighbors search the park after she fails to return home.
The Start of the Search. Thousands of Clevelanders join the search for Beverly Rose Pots after her disappearance.
Eyewitness Accounts. Police interview children at Beverly's school to gather information about her disappearance.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

Beverly is quite excited about the weekend!

Describing Beverly's excitement for her plans

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Tension

65/ 100Some tension

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