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true [Music] [Music] crime in the early morning hours of July 23rd 207 two men broke into the home of
Dr William petett Pettit had lived at the home on sorghum Mill Drive in the quiet safe town of chesher Connecticut
for 20 years at home with Dr Pettit that night was his wife and two daughters the
two men found Dr peted asleep on a couch in the sun room they beat him with a baseball bat from there the two men went
on to ransack the house and terrorize the girls this is the nightmarish story of a home invasion and murder Dr
pettit's wife Jennifer and two daughters 17-year-old Haley and 11-year-old Michaela were killed by these two men a
few days later at the memorial services for the three victims Jennifer pet and her daughters Haley and Michaela over
4,000 people were present people came in from several states away all three were
buried in white caskets per Bill's request and somehow Bill still nowhere near having recovered from the physical
attack he had been subjected to somehow Bill he had the strength to speak at that service now let's go back to Monday
July 23rd because right after the vehicle stolen by these two men Jennifer's van had crashed into two
police cars the police thankfully arrested those men right so now we have these two guys in custody the police
arrested Joshua KFI uh he's he's younger than his partner in crime Steven Hayes by about
20 years um the two two of them they shared the same set of issues both of these guys are career criminals they're
in and out of trouble for most of their adult lives they both have problems with
alcohol and drugs now both these guys up to this point were guilty of having committed pretty much just Petty crimes
you know uh breaking into cars stealing cars uh that was Steven Hayes's thing within hours of the arrest Steven Hayes
was ready to confess and tell the police just what went down the how and the why
now according to Stephen Hayes the two men uh he and Joshua had met at a halfway house and became they became
friends of sorts um Hayes would typically commit crimes to feed his alcohol and drug problems but he was
looking to quote unquote step up his game uh he wanted to start breaking into homes because he was under the
impression that you will find more money and more valuables especially if you go
and pick out a nice home and watch it for a while anyway Joshua is a pro at breaking into homes as a matter of fact
that is like his specialty he's been arrested many times for breaking into homes yeah and I think when he was
arrested one time he claimed that he broke into 18 different homes mhm uh so Joshua starts showing his new friend
Steve Hayes how to pick out a good house how to break in what to look for all that sort of stuff right in fact just
the day before they broke into the pettit's home the two had broken into several homes Steven Hayes was learning
new Criminal skills and Joshua's now Joshua now with the help of a partner was scheming other ways to increase the
score plus it's widely believed that he wanted to start committing other types of crimes rather than just being
and burglary one of the questions becomes why did they pick the Pettit family well we have a situation Captain
where at late in the afternoon on Sunday July 22nd um 48-year-old Jennifer Hawk Pettit
she's with her 11-year-old daughter Michaela they went to that Stop and Shop grocery store in chesher now during
their trip to the grocery store somehow they attracted the attention of Joshua carvi uh who followed them home he was
there waiting for somebody he said something like um cont contractor was supposed to pay him some money or
something like that but anyway he he sees the woman and her child at the store it seems like he may have had some
some attraction to the child he definitely did yeah and he decides to follow them to their home where he
notices that they live in a nice neighborhood in a big house and I think he says it looked like a
nice place to be someday yeah St Hayes would tell us that Joshua told him that he had liked the way the 11-year-old
girl looked Stephen Hayes messages Joshua he sends him a text message saying hey I'm chomping at the bit to
get started need a margarita soon to which he gets no reply from Joshua Stephen Hayes then texts later saying we
still on question mark Joshua replies yes Stephen Hayes wants to know if it will be soon and Joshua answers I'm
putting the kid to bed hold your horses Stephen Hayes then wrote dude the horses
want to get loose LOL at some point the two men get together that evening and they decide to go out to a bar and
they're having several drinks I'm guessing what they're doing is they're play planning their attack because
Joshua is telling him about this home that he has become aware of that he followed these two people home from the
Stop and Shop grocery store and he liked their house it was a big house there was
probably lots of valuables in there according to Hay's confession the two men had planned to rob the pet at home
under cover of Darkness leaving the family bound but unharmed the men got into the home through the the Cellar
Door remember the Cellar Door that leads down into their basement from their backyard the the the lock on this door
was broken it actually had been broken for quite some time yeah but this is also a neighborhood at that time a lot
of people didn't lock all their doors MH and the cellar basement stairs uh once inside would lead up to the Pettit
family's kitchen this door too had a lock on it so you could lock it from the kitchen side mhm um however this lock
was not locked that night and it wasn't common practice for anyone in the Pettit
family to lock this door well after creeping in through the Cellar Door through the basement up the stairs uh
they eventually found William petett sleeping on a couch um some people call this the porch it's more of a sun room
now bill says he never heard the men approaching him um he actually didn't wake up until Josh struck him in the
head head with the baseball bat Josh had found the baseball bat um there's several accounts of this most of them
saying that it was lying in the yard somewhere in the backyard um there is an account or two that said they may have
found it in the basement then tying Bill up at gunpoint and later moving him to the basement the children and their
mother were bound and locked in their respective rooms Stephen Haye said that he and Karma Savi were not satisfied
with the amount of money or valuables that they found in the home and that was when the bank book was discovered which
showed that big available balance that we discussed Stephen Hayes went and he P purchased the gas um the gasoline and
those two jugs he actually about 7:00 he actually got lost on his way back to the
home um driving around more than necessary he was communicating with Joshua either by way of text or phone
calls or both to try to find his way back to the pet at home which of course we know he ultimately did M um he
unloaded the gas and then he drove Mrs petett to the Bank of America he mostly drove around you had said yesterday that
she was in there longer than he had expected and I think this probably made him nervous knowing that there would be
some type of cameras or possible surveillance outside of the bank um so he was driving around maybe to hide his
identity a a little bit better um but during this time Joshua still back at the house he severely escalated the
nature of the crimes that would be committed stepen Hayes says that when he returned with Mrs petet and the money
back to the house that Joshua had told him that he had sexually assaulted the 11-year-old girl that was locked in her
room upstairs he said that Joshua provoked him provoked Steven Hayes into raping Mrs petett while Hayes was raping
her on the floor of the living room Joshua entered the room at some point and announced that bill pet had excape
the house yeah but let's be clear about this because you know when they're first
arrested you know Josh is coming out right away saying my name is you know Josh there's these you know here's the
people that are in the house when Steven is arrested he doesn't give them the name he doesn't basically cooperate at
all within hours they're both kind of turning on each other mhm this is just shows you what kind of horrible pieces
of [ __ ] these people are when they say oh well he provoked me to rape the mother yeah you you could have just said
no you got gasoline because you were worried about fingerprints and DNA so you knew you're going to torch this
house yeah they go back and forth with their stories and they're constantly like you know it seems like most of the
time they're telling the truth and then there's these little tiny gray areas where they're they start put in the
blame on the other individual and I think this is one of them oh he provoked me yeah I mean we have this situation
where there Steven is saying that the the plan was to just get rid of the fingerprints that we just need to hide
evidence that we probably left unknowingly left within the home and if we could get this gasoline we could
ransack the house we could get the money from the bank and then we could tie this
family up move them elsewhere and torch the house with the gas right and he but what he's saying is
because Josh escalated it by um raping the the daughter that that that's the reason why they had to kill him you knew
that they saw your face anyways mhm I think there was a possibility that they knew that they were going to get rid of
this family you know all along and Stephen says once he's told by Joshua that bill pet had escaped the home from
the basement um that he strangled Jennifer and then doused her her lifeless body and then other parts of
the house with that gasoline including the daughter's rooms while they're still tied to their beds both both the
daughters had been doused with gasoline uh each with her head with their heads still covered with these pillowcases uh
fire was started and stevenh Hayes and Joshua Karma SFI fled the scene Haley and Michaela both died from smoke
inhalation um the two they were burned to death and the old oldest one there was signs that she actually got up um so
she was alive why she's being set on fire and as we said the two suspects fleeing the home there immediately
spotted by police pursued and arrested just one block away from the from the home the whole home invasion lasted
roughly 7 hours uh both men smelled strongly of gasoline uh during the the interrogation process detectives noted
this um each of the two loow lives as you had said blamed or implicated the other as The Mastermind Andor driving
force behind the sexual assaults and The Killing Spree there were even attempts at times to blame the husband and father
bill petett as some type of accomplice yeah and that was kind of the rumor in town when you have a whole family that
is murdered the way they are and and the husband gets free I think a lot of people assumed that maybe he had
something to do with it on September 13th 2010 this is how long it takes Captain to get to the first trial in
this situation well but there's some stuff to talk about before the first trial I mean both individuals both of
these um lowlife pieces of [ __ ] they say hey look we will tell you everything we'll plead guilty you know just give us
life in prison with no possibility to parole that was their first thing that they did and for whatever reason the
state decided that that wasn't enough yeah and it it's it's unfortunate because there are there's a lot of media
regarding how this came about there's a lot of people saying that Dr Pettit that
bill Pettit was the driving force saying we have to we have to sentence these guys to death well because there was a
bill going to be passed and they're going to get rid of the death Penal mhm they basically State because of this
case and because of the horrific nature of this case that we're going to I think
the governor vetoed it and they they said okay well now that Bill is vetoed for right now and now we're going to go
to trial Bill Pettit would say that you know he never argued never never fought the uh prosecutors on this but it was
the prosecutors that had given the recommendation to him that we go after the death penalty and we don't need to
get into into a whole death penalty debate or anything like that but uh well that's what this case becomes
the aftermath of it and the fact of the matter is I mean I think okay I'm just going to say this
cuz this kind of what I believe I mean none of these details and none of this stuff H has to come out in public and
you don't have to spend money on this stuff these guys are going to plead guilty they're going to spend the rest
of their lives in jail they're not going to go to regular jail they're going to go to solitary confinement it's
basically like being buried alive and these guys are going to have to live with their actions for the rest of their
lives also in the meantime before the trial happened I believe both of them tried to take their own lives yeah so
these guys want to die you know and so you're going to go after the death penalty that's kind of what they want so
why would you give these animals what they want lock them AA lock them in a cage have them deal with their actions
and what they did and they'll have to think about that every day the other problem that I have with this case is
that once you go to trial now all these details have to be relived and some of these details weren't known because the
cops and the med the cops weren't sharing this with the media CU they didn't have to they have confessions and
so to me you know it's like you can you can protect them after their death by not
having to relive this or not have to put this information onto the public yeah but I there's clearly no right answer
here um you know you can make a strong argument for either situation that they should be um they should just let them
confess and give them life in prison or have the state kill him you can make a strong argument for either one I think
in this situation whatever the sole survivor of the home invasion wants to go after and
if the that doesn't make it right just because he was the sole survivor it doesn't make
it wrong though either um I think there is a right and wrong answer here okay I mean I think
one I don't know if we should get into this right now but the state spent over $7 million trying to prosecute these
guys and then uh stepen has now asked to be sent to death and they're still appealing it he's like hey go ahead kill
me I want to die I don't want to live with what I did and and the state still going no we're still going to have
appeals we're going to still spend more and more money on this I I don't know how that makes any
sense okay well I don't I don't want to put a dollar amount on on Seeking Justice for for victims of horrible
crimes that's no that's how's that seeking any justice I mean the big question here becomes when did the cops
know about this and what could the cops done to possibly prevent this I mean they were D they weren't ding the house
with gasoline until they got back and W within probably 30 seconds of them returning back home police were on the
scene you know so they had the house surrounded that becomes the big question I think that's um um moo argument to say
well we're going to I'm put in a price on Justice you know what is Justice that's what these killers wanted they
wanted to die so isn't that giving them what they wanted and is that Justice I would rather give Bill what he
wants I don't care what these two guys want anyway at the first trial September but what you're saying doesn't make any
sense because what Bill wants and what the killers want are the same thing it does make sense how does it not make
sense I'm saying that the the guy that had to live through this nightmare that every day has to wake up without his
wife and his two children if he wants these guys killed I'm fine with it that's what what I'm saying I'm fine
with it right and it doesn't matter what step Hayes or Joshua kesi guys who have
lied and manipulated people their entire lives say that they want I don't care I
don't care what they want this is not about them this is not about them at all but once you go to trial once you go
seeking the death penalty then guess what it becomes about becomes about them because now we have to argue you why did
they do this what made them this way and so the whole trial becomes about the horrific stuff that they did to your
family and it then it becomes about these two individuals and if you if you would have
just taken the plea deal and you just would have locked them up for the rest of their lives we wouldn't be talking
about this now we wouldn't I I don't think so I mean this is a home invasion with three murders
this is one of the most publicized uh home invasion murder cases in in in in the state of Connecticut yeah one of the
main reasons it's so publicized is because they went to trial and S sought the death penalty okay let's get to the
first trial because we could debate this all night we have the first trial takes
till September 13th of 2010 to take place now unfortunately Bill had to sit just about 10 ft from one of the men who
had killed his family at the very start of the trial the defense for Steven Hayes simply stated that everything the
state says Hayes did he is guilty of he broke into the pet home watched his partner beat Mr Pettit with a baseball
bat he tied up the girls purchased the gasoline drove Mrs Pettit to the bank to get the money returned her to the home
raped Jennifer Pettit and strangled her he Then followed Josh as the two perpetrators fled the home knowing it
was in flames and that three persons were tied up and still alive at least two possibly three people tied up and
still alive in the home so this trial was not going to be to decide if Steven Hayes was guilty now this trial would
simply decide how Steven Hayes is going to be punished would he get sentenced to
life in prison or would he get the death sentence attorney Thomas Olman told the
jury this is um Hayes's attorney told the jury that a sentence of life in prison would be the harshest possible
punishment for his client because he was so tormented by his crimes and would be
isolated in prison stating life in prison without the possibility of release is the harshest penalty it is a
fate worse than death if you want to end his misery put him to death if you want
him to suffer and carry that burden forever the guilt and humiliation sentence him to life without the
possibility of release yeah and one of the things like I said before he tried to kill himself and one of the reasons
was he kept on having these reoccurring nightmares that you know Steven had a daughter and his in his nightmare his
daughter was burning alive and he would have this dream over and over yeah there
were several complications uh with his trial one like you said the suicide attempt I guess he was um he was
pilfering away these the the drugs maybe some of this yeah I think that was his second attempt yeah he was pilfering
away these these pills for quite some time saving them up so he could take a whole bunch of them at once and attempt
to kill himself and then he also had some health issues throughout the course of the trial that may have slowed it
down a bit um it came out in Steven's trial that according to the medical examiner an unspeakable act had been
committed on 11-year-old Michaela uh Joshua KFI had sodomized the little girl this was new information that further
shocked the public and the poor family had to hear this information in person at the trial of Steven Hayes Joshua had
admitted to assaulting the girl orally but not this um the jury also learned that the police had found pornographic
pictures on Joshua's cell phone that were presumably taking taken by Joshua during the time that he was assaulting
the little girl the picture showed Michaela naked and tied to her bed and the uh showed Joshua's genitalia as well
in the uh the pictures yeah and this happened when St left to get the gas around 7:00 there was more than one
assault um you know regard however you look at Stephen Hayes's story also presented at this trial were the
journals of of Joshua in which he referred to his breaking into homes as extreme sport uh in his diary he chose
to call Bill petett a coward and claimed that bill could have stopped the murders
had he wanted to he said that Jennifer the mother and wife was Brave and that Haley the oldest daughter was a fighter
and again he said bill was a coward the man he had beat over the head multiple times with a baseball bat I mean it's
just ridiculous um that he would refer refer to Mr peted as a as a as a coward I mean uh we have Stephen Hayes Stephen
Hayes says in his confession he says that Josh hit Mr pet in the front and back of the head with the bat as hard as
he could now this is a man that that most certainly was threatened with a gun uh quote remember the quote if he moves
put two bullets in him a man that had lost over seven pints of blood that was slipping in and out of Consciousness a
man that was beaten and bound and had to hope and pray that the the men that had
beaten him were being honest when they told him they were only there for the money and then they would leave and
these same dirt bags told Jennifer told Mrs pet if you go to the bank and get us
the money we will leave and instead she was not rewarded for doing this not rewarded for doing what they said at all
she was punished for doing what they had said Stephen Hayes ultimately was found
guilty on 16 of 17 counts related to the home invasion murders on October 5th 2010 as when he was found guilty in
early November the jury returned Ed with a recommendation for him to be executed
he was sentenced to death the jury chose to show him no mercy he was seeking Mercy as he had he he's claiming you
know he had a pretty bad drug problem at this time uh he's also saying you know I
offered a confession to the police I told them everything that I knew um but they they would show him no mercy
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all right we're back cheers mates we're back from punching each other in the face cheers to you Captain uh on
December 2nd 2010 Stephen Hayes he apologized for the pain and suffering he had caused the Pettit family and added
that death for me will be a welcome relief and I hope it will bring some peace and comfort to those who I have
hurt so much now Judge John Blue uh formally imposed six death sentences one for each of the capital charges um blue
then added a sentence of 106 years for other crimes that Steven Hayes committed during the home
invasion and before he finished he stated this he stated this is a terrible sentence but is in truth a sentence you
wrote for yourself in Flames may God have mercy on your soul now just as the captain had mentioned Stephen Hayes had
attempted to negotiate a life sentence during a plea bargain and that did not happen after the verdict his defense
attorney stated Hayes smiled upon hearing the jury's recommendation of a death sentence he added he is thrilled
he is very happy with the verdict that is what he wanted all along basically they're going hey we're going for
appeals and he's like I don't want to appeal I I want to die now mhm so again like I said it's I know that's what Bill
wanted but it's also what the killers wanted now there was a second trial we have to try um Joshua kvi for this uh he
was born in 1980 uh to a 16-year-old girl and a 20-year-old mechanic and was later adopted by Benedict
carfi Joshua was a very similar setup let's say uh you know we have this situation where you're
caught red-handed so it's more of a trial of is he going to get life or death Joshua was
basically begging the jury in the court for Mercy his biological parents had a history of mental illness and Joshua
grew up in a home where he was molested when he was about 4 years old his adopted parents brought in a 15-year-old
foster kid who raped Joshua and put cigarettes out on him when Joshua was was older he ended up molesting his
little sister it's a little unclear how much knowledge the parents had of both of
these situations but it seems like at some point during his childhood they had some type of knowledge yeah um and then
choosing to deal with these situations themselves rather than to involve the authorities or any type of counseling
what angers me is that this guy gets his day in court to basically Ally you know
justify why he did what he did mhm and and so but these claims you know originally when they made these claims I
thought well this is probably just a bunch of you know horor [ __ ] right yeah but the the kid was 14 at the time the
foster kid um he admits to it um he apologizes but it seems like this family always turned to religion so instead of
going to the authorities or anything like that okay well you know homosexuality is wrong and we're going
to put this kid and we're going to push religion onto him and I think that's one
of the reasons why how do I say this that he's he was attracted to younger females probably because of the abuse
okay but didn't turn to males because of the the condemning nature of the church
his Rel religion yes right just to be clear in case it it confuses anybody we're stating
we're telling this story here and the story is that homosexual situation is the situation is this homosexuality is
wrong according to Joshua's Church to the church that he attended at the time not according to the captain or the
colonel or Nick or however many people are in the garage here but now like we saw in the first trial Captain um with
the journal with Joshua's Journal coming out that that stating you know Bill Pettit was a coward we see this again in
the second trial where Josh is now saying he claimed that he believed that bill petock could have escaped earlier
uh he claimed that the zip ties and the Rope were loose enough that bill could have wiggled his way out at any time um
his lawyer Joshua's lawyer also argued that for his client to be sentenced to death the victims that were murdered had
to have died in a cruel manner now their argument is because two of the girls um
here's their argument this is this is this is going to make you want to you thought you thought you and I got into
it earlier with the back and forth this is going to make you want to uh kick a hole through the garage door here done
and done okay so the argument is this that Stephen Hayes killed the mother right so you have to take that one off
the table when you're when you have Joshua on trial so he should only technically be charged with killing two
people um and they're stating these two girls their cause of death is technically listed as smoke
inhalation the smoke inhalation is described and this was forced to be described by Josh's lawyer uh he had the
experts the medical experts explain what typically happens when somebody dies of
smoke inhalation well their argument is that the way the the experts describ this did not particularly mean that it
was a cruel manner in which these two girls were killed of course they failed they purposely failed to mention the
hours of traumatizing the girls the little one uh raped both DED with gasoline and like you said were on fire
and surrounded by Flames as they died there were some details that were learned in the trial regarding that
night um as the two men had some troubles with uh 17-year-old Haley remember uh Joshua's Journal had said
that she was a fighter yeah both the men had ripped landline phones out of the walls uh once they took over the home
well at least once uh I believe possibly twice they caught Haley with her cell phone or someone else's cell phone
attempting to either notify someone or possibly call 911 on October 13 2011 Josh carvi was convicted on all 17
counts on January 27th 2002 Judge John blue sentenced him to death by Le lethal injection to which his sentence became
an automatic life sentence as did step Hayes when eventually Connecticut abolished the death penalty this took
place in 2015 now both Hayes and carfi are housed in separate prison facilities in the state
of Pennsylvania to serve out their life sentences yeah and I think this is the part you know that makes me so mad about
this case why did this information have to come to light in public you know you know why did they
veto the bill for the death penalty penalty just to have this trial and then once they have the trial then they
basically put that they passed the law anyways you know it seems like wasted time wasted money wasted
hurt you know I I don't know well to be fair to you Captain I think as with all of us this is just one of many aspects
of this case that that make us all very angry and upset with well really everything I mean there's just no way to
feel good about any of this regardless of what type of sentence or punishment these two monsters end up getting in the
end right and HBO made a documentary about this and when I was watching it um towards the end of it and they're
talking about Josh's trial and and what happened to him as a kid I mean I think that's what really frustrated me the
most and what made me so angry is the these guys are horrible individuals and and I didn't want I don't want to know
why they got that way and I don't want to feel sorry for him at all but when you hear the stuff that happened to this
kid somebody helped create a monster was he going to be that way would this happen without that I don't know
whatever you think is Justice whether it's the death penalty or just rot in jail I just want that to happen but I
don't want to look at him as a victim and I think by giving him the day in court you have to examine those
things yeah and this was unique because say for the first time in in the state's
history the Connecticut state judicial branch offered post-traumatic stress assistance to people who served on the
juries of these two triple murder trials because they had been required to look at disturbing images and hear Gastly
testimony there were several parts during both trials where there were there were pictures that were not shown
to the public to the people that just showed up to witness the trials there were many obviously
many images that were shown to these people however with when it came to the jury there were several times during
these trials where they took a manella envelope you know one of them file folders and they put in it um whatever
horrible graphic image that they had somebody had taken a picture of whether it was a picture Joshua had taken on his
cell phone or whether it was police and firefighter photographs uh during the investigation itself and they had to
pass these folders along and you know the one reporter wrote that every time that these these file folders were
brought to the jury I mean you could see it on their faces it it was as simple as this it was
handed to one juror he or she would open up the the folder right look at the thing for a second or two close it and
hand it to the next person and the reporter said that anytime this happened in this in this trial in these trials
that's all you could hear in the entire courtroom everyone was silent and all you could hear was the flapping open of
this file folder somebody having to see something no one should ever have to see
well they had to take multiple breaks because of this yes and pass it along to the next person and of course the family
the pet family um they had to sit there and hang their heads uh when this happened as well
the victims these Three Angels of of humans you know they're the victims not not these animals but you give them
their day in court and like I said you have to examine that stuff that happened to them
as well yeah I mean that's that's two monsters pleading for Mercy um they didn't obviously didn't show anybody any
Mercy that night so I'm glad that uh 24 people decided not to show them any Mercy as well as the judge the aftermath
of this thing I mean is is huge but I did want to touch upon a few things um Bill Pettit established the Michaela
Rose Pettit scholarship fund for the chase Collegiate School um he also established the Haley's hope and
Michaela's Miracle Ms memorial fund um there were several organizations and and foundations that have been set up uh
because of Bill petett and because of people close to this case trying to do a lot of good for um because a lot of bad
happened yeah um in August of 2012 Bill petett married uh he got remarried and eventually they went on to him and his
new wife went on to have I believe a son um so some some kind of form of healing
for for bill um yeah they actually tore down the P family home mhm mhm and they turned that into a memorial garden I
really like what one of the grandparents said is that um if closure means anything of forgetting
that I don't want any closure mhm and I thought that was that was good because you know the thing is that these um
three beautiful souls they were trying to do good in the world and who knows what I mean you you have a young
daughter that raised over $50,000 for Ms yeah you know that's yeah I mean they were the the the
three girls were good in every sense of the word I mean all three of them and here's one thing I also want to touch
upon too Captain is you know I I've heard people say and I think this is a fantastic quote that that
one's one's character is best judged in a time of tragedy and the way that the bill Pettit and um his parents and the
family members of you know the hawk family and Jennifer pettit's family the way that They Carried themselves
presented themselves and their Humanity uh through this whole thing to it to me it was amazing how well they
were able to to carry themselves and hold themselves together yeah during and and remain civilized in a situation that
none of us can act can imagine should never have to imagine going through now Bill petett he has not returned to his
medical practice since the murders stating that he his desire is to be active in the foundations set up to
honor the memory of his deceased family right um he now serves as a I believe a state representative the other thing too
regarding him not returning to his medical practice we have to keep in mind the injuries that he sustained during
that and the the type of you know he's got to have a clear mind he's got to have steady hands he has to be able to
think on his feet uh because of his job and he has said that the injuries he sustained and the loss
um emotionally mentally his heart is broken that he he's no longer able to be of sound mind
and be to be somebody that's able to care uh for his patients in the way that they deserve to be yeah when you go
through that a tragic like that or a tragic loss like that you have to figure out why care to go on and that's what he
he had to figure out and one final thought for me Captain is Joshua KFI he called Bill petted a
coward and personally I can't think of a more sick and cowardly act than raping a
child Joshua carasi is a child rapist he had a daughter of his own and there may have been one possibly
good thing that could have come of this I believe he would have eventually if he
hadn't already I believe he would have raped his own daughter and very likely many times that's what he is that's what
Joshua carasi is he's a child rapist and he in fact is the coward uh Bill petett
uh because of cowards like Joshua carfi and Steven Hayes he chose to speak at the
funeral and two trials for his wife and two daughters and on those days Bill William Pettit was more of a man
than I have ever been asked to be and more Brave than I could ever imagine to be one thing that we should touch on CU
if we don't we'll probably get some heat mail is the the reaction from the cops and how they handled this situation
there has been some criticism from the hawk family yeah and I get it I get it I don't know that I here's the problem I'm
able to sit here in the garage with you you know and and have a good time with you and not today my friend yeah today's
been aggravating but it's because of the case not because of you not because of anything out
outside but I'm I'm lucky I'm able to sit here and have a beer and relax and talk about this thing that happened 10
years ago right and so you'd think my mind would be clear more clear than what than what it is that I should have a
hard stance on these different opinions but I don't I what I see is a crime that
took six or seven hours to commit that broke a lot of people it broke the family members and it it it broke the
community the thing here is you have a situation where I think I think a good number of ways the police were just
following protocol they were setting up a perimeter they were trying to you know
they have to keep the peace and if that means um trapping it with inside those four walls right sometimes that's what
they have to do and as you and I both agreed on they don't fully know the situation as to what's going on inside
those four walls I agree with the people that are that are angry at the police and and here's what I mean by that I
agree that they're angry because I too am angry I just don't know that the police are the right people to be angry
at I think that this case is um one of these ones that just rips your heart out and the problem is you when you have
these two low Lives who get life sentences or committed to death whatever regardless of what they end up getting
you're still angry you're still mad and you're still upset and at some point you
need more to blame than just these two guys because this just seems too horrible for only two people to be
responsible for and so that's when you know when you see um the hawk family upset with the police I agree with them
and I think you have to let them vent I don't know what could have been done differently I know that bill has never
publicly blamed the police for any misdoings yeah you want to talk about being courageous I mean here's
a individual that he feels you know he lost all this Blood and he still feels that he should have went up the
different stairs instead of going outside that he should have went into the kitchen and I think he blames
himself a little bit and he's probably angry and I guarantee you these cops this law enforcement
team now knowing what they know I guarantee you they're angry with some of their decisions put yourself in their
shoes you don't know what's happening you're trying to assess the situation these cops did not want this to take
place I guarantee you that every single one of them wish wishes that they could have stopped it and I'm sure that
they're angry and I'm sure that they blame themselves and there's no reason for more people to point the finger at
them hey one thing I want to point out to all the Great Garage people out there is that we have our blog that's active
on true Crim garage.com a lot of these cases you know we cover so many cases a new one every
week A lot of times we are asked if we could do an update and things like that that is the blog is a running update of
all those cases and the great thing is that everybody out there gets to contribute to that blog and to that
information you can participate by reading or writing your own comment there I do want to throw one thing in
here please Captain uh we no silent he shut it down just like that um regarding this case um let's let's
not get into a whole Pro against uh death penalty debate on the blog we will ref refrain from doing that um but
certainly leave your other thoughts there at true Crim garage.com a lot of interesting conversation going on
regarding the Kena Jenkins case uh the deli case um all these cases still very active so check out that information
there yeah you can uh speculate if we're left or right wing but uh we'll never tell you cuz this is not a political
show so what I can tell you Captain is that this case is made me so very angry and I'm very lucky and thankful to have
a whole big bowl of leftover candy bars from last night and I will use that entire Bowl to comfort myself I'm going
to use get me through this troubling moment I'm going to use a thing called bourbon so all right thanks for sharing
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Two petty criminals met and became friends at a halfway house. This was to be part of rehabilitating both of these criminals with lengthy records back into society. After the friendship was formed the house burglar taught the car thief how to break into homes of well to do families. In July of 2007 the two men broke into the home of Dr. William Petit. Petit had lived at the home on Sorgham Mill drive in the quiet safe town of Cheshire, Connecticut for 20 years. At home with Dr. Petit that night was his wife and two daughters. The two men found Dr. Petit asleep on a couch in the sunroom. They beat him with a baseball bat. From there the two men went to ransack the house and terrorize the girls. This is the nightmarish true story of the Cheshire, Connecticut home invasion murders.Beer of the week - Lonesome Boatman Ale by Outer Light BrewingGarage Grade - 4 out of 5 bottle caps

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The episode details the Pettit family murders in Connecticut and the trials of their killers, Steven Hayes and Joshua KFI.

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True Crime Garage Introduction. Join hosts Nick and Captain as they dive into a chilling true crime story.
The Nightmarish Home Invasion. A home invasion leads to a tragic outcome for the Pettit family.
The Arrest of Joshua and Steven. Two career criminals are arrested after a brutal home invasion.
Trial Reveals Horrific Details. The trial unveiled shocking details about the crimes committed against the Pettit family.

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