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Paul John Knowles some have called him the Casanova killer who is on the run from police he escaped from his
detention cell and he's been on the run ever since that was in Late July where we left off we were through the month of
October and in early November Knowles met British journalist Sandy fox in Atlanta Georgia eventually the
two-parted ways but Knowles picked up an acquaintance of foxes this is Susan McKenzie
and demanded sex from her at gunpoint she escaped and notified police of this attack
on November 14th Paul John Knowles was in West Palm Beach Florida and the police were on to him in fact he was
stopped by an officer however Knowles pointed a shotgun at the officer the officer Dove behind his police vehicle
and Noel sped off by now he needed to ditch the Chevy Impala as the vehicle description was what prompted the
officer to stop Knowles we have this woman Susan McKenzie who thankfully gets away from Knowles tells police about the
attack gives a description of Knowles she very likely even knew his name at that time but more importantly gives
police the vehicle description possibly knows his name or possibly one of his aliases he went by Lester Daryl Gates or
Daryl golden that's interesting and that's a good point there too Captain because this
Susan McKenzie as we said was an acquaintance of Sandy Fox and Sandy fox has always said that Knowles introduced
himself to her as Daryl golden the key here is we but hold on a second you get to pick a name
and that's what you're picking my name is Daryl golden yeah I mean I don't know um I don't know why he came up with that
name it doesn't appear that he has a victim out there that he would have had credit cards belonging to that name or
anything that would help him along his way um it might be like a literary term or
name that we don't know uh be be interesting if anybody had some further thoughts on that
but what we have here is that Knowles has to get rid of this Chevy Impala because that is what is stopping him
from fleeing the area he's going to keep running into trouble with the police if
he continues to drive this vehicle around what he does desperate for another vehicle to flee the area Knowles breaks
into the home of 31 year old Barbara Tucker there were three people in the house at
the time that he broke in he ties two of them up and then he kidnaps Barbara Tucker at
gunpoint he robs the house and he drives off with her and her Volkswagen right but here's what the problem with these
spree killers are is because they're killing to get to their next location or to keep running they have to keep
leaving evidence behind so now he has a new vehicle and new victims but he's leaving the old vehicle behind it's the
old trail of breadcrumbs what happens here Captain is one of the people tied up that he left at the home
eventually is able to free themselves they call in this abduction right this man broke into the home tied us up took
one of us Barbara Tucker 31 year old Barbara Tucker took her vehicle police show up on the scene they're trying to
figure everything out one of the first things that they notice is that Chevy Impala is parked near Barbara Tucker's
Place this was William bates's Chevy Impala from Ohio right so the terrifying thing
here is police aren't going into this going we don't know what happened they're going holy [ __ ] we know what
happened we know who's responsible for this this is a very dangerous man there's a killer on the road and we know
that because he keeps dumping these homicide victims or missing persons victims Vehicles along the way when he
snatches somebody else and takes their vehicle right so they know what he's capable of I mean I'm and I'm sure
like you said these these devastating crime scenes where it looks like an animal went through or a man possessed
I'm sure those rumors are getting around to law enforcement so not only is he a dangerous man but this guy could turn
into a a psycho pretty quickly the other thing too is he's not he doesn't appear
to be afraid of law enforcement we know that right even at a young age he abducted an officer at gunpoint we know
he escaped from a jail cell after he was picked up on a you know getting in that
bar fight and then we have the situation where he is pulled over the officer doesn't really know who he's dealing
with but before he can figure it out Knowles pulls a shotgun on him and the officer was so terrified had to jump
behind their vehicle so this guy is not only dangerous to the public but he's dangerous to the men and women who are
trying to apprehend him yeah and sometimes when you see images of these individuals that you can tell they look
dangerous in the case of somebody like Ted Bundy not so much and in the case you know
here PJ Knowles the Casanova killer I want to look at his picture and think this guy is a raging psychopath I would
go this guy looks laid back almost hollywood-like well now with a new hostage in a new vehicle he
drives to a hotel in Fort Pierce Florida and rented a room for two nights at the
Skyway Motel under the names Mr and Mrs James Smith the next night Knowles saw Barbara
Tucker's picture on the news the the woman he took hostage right he sees her picture on the 11 o'clock news with
details about the kidnapping this prompts Knowles to tie up Tucker and then flee the area
lucky for her because we know he's left a trail blood behind him who knows what would have happened had
he not been forced to leave and get out of there quickly or like his one victim where he tied up but
didn't and I guess intentionally murder but ended up dying from being tied up and gagged it wasn't until the next
morning that Tucker was able to free herself this was around 7 A.M and she called the police one hour later okay
we're on November 16th right now so one hour after Barbara Tucker calls police at 7am
from that Motel highway patrolman Charles Campbell stopped the stolen Volkswagen and pulled it over the Burley
Trooper unstrapped his gun but did not take it out of the holster as the trooper approached the car Knowles aimed
a shotgun at him telling him to freeze Knowles took the trooper's weapon and put the officer in the patrol car
Knowles jumped in the driver's seat and drove off with the officer now his new hostage
Knowles knew because he was on the run and because of the Abduction of Barbara Tucker the traffic stop would have been
called in and soon they would find the abandoned Volkswagen and no officer Campbell right right so officer Campbell
pulls this guy over called it in he knows it's only a matter of time before backup and everybody else is on their
way well but what we know and what law enforcement doesn't know is this guy is totally fine with going down in a blaze
of glory yeah well the other difficult thing too difficult for Knowles is he can't really drive around in this patrol
car and go unnoticed why not as long as he doesn't turn on the sirens he should be good well he's going to do
the exact opposite of that to he's going to turn on the sirens yeah he flips on the car's lights in the
siren and he makes a traffic stop of his own oh he pulled over a blue Torino driving the vehicle was 29 year
old businessman James Meyer Knowles handcuffed officer Campbell and Meyer together in the back seat of the Torino
and drives off in this new vehicle now this time leaving the patrol car abandoned on the side of the road one
thing that's terrifying about this situation is that there were several eyewitnesses
he just did this in in broad daylight in front of a whole bunch of other cars yeah it's like again it's that
transformation into complete utter psycho it's the downward spiral and what happens here I mean think about this if
you're just a motorist on the road you notice when when a car when when a police vehicle or state trooper pulls
somebody over it just it goes notice because your first thought is there's the lights oh I hope they're not pulling
me over oh good it's that guy right and then all of a sudden you're paying attention and what's going on you see a
man a plain clothes man with long red hair get out he takes the driver of that Torino hostage and who does he handcuff
him to a State Trooper a uniformed officer places them in the back of the civilian
car and then drives off well two more hostages yeah this time leaving the patrol car abandoned on the side of the
road Knowles eventually turned onto a dirt road this is about 20 miles south of Macon Georgia there he pulled the two
hostages out from the back seat and at gunpoint he walked them deep into the woods he sat them down at a tree which
he selected at random and he shot each of them at very close range in the back of the head sadly
James Meyer was just 29 years old and he was returning home to his family in Delaware from a Florida business trip he
was killed and then hero a hero just doing his everyday job to Serve and Protect Trooper Charles Eugene Campbell
of the Florida State Patrol was killed as well End of Watch November 16 1974. the two captives were shot in an
act of Senseless cowardice cold-blooded murder with officer Campbell's service weapon
Knowles once again took off police all over the area were setting up roadblocks about 24 hours later Knowles
attempted to crash through one of these roadblocks but when doing so he crashed into a tree
he jumped out of the vehicle firing shots at the officers and the officers returned fire as Knowles fled on foot
one of the officers however managed to shoot Knolls in the leg but regardless Knowles got away
bloodied Knowles ran from police deeper and deeper into the woods well at least they hit him because I think that's at
least at least if you can hit him on some level that he's injured he's going to have to get help at some point well
and luckily he didn't end up shooting any of these officers right while he's running from the area
eventually Knowles was cornered this was the following day by 27 year old former
Vietnam War veteran and Hospital maintenance worker David Clark he's armed with the shotgun and he was
there's a couple different stories for this and I always find this interesting especially when you go back to these
older news stories I mean we're we're sitting here talking about stories from 1974. right
when something later becomes headline news none of these previous stories were headline news it's always interesting to
me how then later you get a couple different versions come out and you don't know if maybe they're putting a
little lipstick on the pig dressing the story up a little bit making it sound a little more theatrical a little more
Hollywood but the the two stories that vary here Captain is one that this man was uh
David Clark that he was out hunting and he came across Knowles and recognized him and understood hey I gotta take this
guy in the other story is that um that he stumbled onto a a nearby Farm somebody else's Farm in this David Clark
came across him there regardless of what the story is the one that I tend to believe and I'm going to roll with here
because I think it would make for for a better part in our little garage story that we're telling here
David Clark comes across Knowles and for whatever reason Knowles gives up which is something
we've not seen him do yet but this David Clark manages to get him under control and walks him to the nearest home that
he can find this is not going to be a short walk either because according to most of the stories Knowles is out in
the middle of the woods somewhere again well that's why I go back to the injury how bad is that leg injured
I don't know because it seems like Knowles was making pretty good time that he would that he was making a
pretty good pace for himself along the way because what we would later be told the short of it is Clark takes him to
this this nearby house where a phone call is made to the police and eventually Noel's apprehended by police
in that manner they state that Knowles was outside of the perimeter established for The Manhunt and it would be very
likely that Knowles would have escaped and that he would have been on the Run after this but he still has a book if it
were not for the actions of the uh the uh local citizens there I don't know for certain if there was a bullet in his leg
I mean you could get you can get grazed uh I don't have a description a good description of the injury suffered by
Knowles but but based off of everything we know that he did along the way you hope he
was hurting as bad as possible well yeah and and it's I think um surprising they know that this guy they know
Knowles is one a fugitive but on top of that we know he is a he killed two men for certain and one is
a police officer so the fact that they didn't just instead of picking them up they just
didn't put one in his head right away Judge Jerry Dunn yeah so we're going to have Knowles
sitting in a jail cell for about a month okay this guy now is big news he's headlines
now because now we have this guy that was on the Run fugitive On The Run we know he's killed several people along
the way when when they were bringing him in there were people lining up on the sides
of the streets who just wanted to get a look at this guy they wanted to see him transported from the vehicle into the
jail well while he's sitting in jail we have Sheriff Earl Lee who says that he asked Paul John Knowles
how many people he had killed while he was out on the Run and Noel said do you know how old I was
when Society put me in prison Lee says I'm guessing you were 17 or 18. and Knowles replies 18. and then he
wrote the number 18 in the palm of his left hand and held it up to show the sheriff Knowles wrote the name of seven
states Georgia Florida Ohio Connecticut Texas Virginia and Mississippi in which he claimed to have killed people
when he was being held he was being charged with seven murders two in Florida one in Ohio and four in Georgia
Sheriff Lee would go on to say that he believed that that was Knowles's way of telling him hey
I killed 18 people by writing that on the palm of his hand and asking the question do you know how old I was when
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to you captain on December 18 1974 Sheriff Earl Lee and Georgia Bureau of Investigations agent Ronnie Angel
were traveling down Interstate 20 with Paul John Knowles Knowles is wearing leg irons and
handcuffs he's in the back seat surefully is driving an agent Angel is sitting shotgun their destination was
Henry County Georgia where Noel said he had dumped the handgun that he took off of Florida State Trooper Charles
Campbell the gun he used to kill both Campbell and the civilian Myers remember he killed both of them in Cold Blood
right somehow Knowles managed to pick the lock while sitting in the back seat of this
police car he managed to pick the lock and slip out of the handcuffs freeing his right hand
immediately Knowles went for Sheriff Lee's revolver Lee is now wrestling with Knowles trying desperately to not give
up his gun and still trying to maintain the vehicle Lee's gun goes off Angel reacts almost immediately and
fires three shots Angel put three 38 caliber bullets into Paul John Knowles one hit his left
temple one went into his chest and one entered his back and exited under his left armpit
Knowles died on the scene law enforcement of course never recovered the slain state trooper's gun do you
think this is possibly these officers taken the law into their own hands he killed an officer and I think it'd be
real simple we're going to transport in from one place to another place we're going to make sure it's pretty
easy for him to get out of his cuffs once he gets out of his cuffs we'll shoot him and we'll say he went for your
gun done and done so if we are to believe all the stories we're told out of Georgia
with the with the situation of Paul John Knowles is the way that this story starts off is
the three of them are traveling down the interstate because they're going to go and recover this gun that he used to
kill two people along the way right one of them being an officer the thing is we have Knowles who's
sitting in a cell and he's talking he's opening up it's not too difficult for law enforcement or what would eventually
be the prosecutors to put together a case against Knowles because you have a weird situation where you have a paper
trail that be it credit cards that were stolen from people that were killed cars
that were stolen from people that were killed and then dumped along the way you have a paper trail a blood trail but
they're really piecing everything together when they're sitting back and looking at it Captain they're going okay
well we're charging him with seven murders and what was it three different states we suspect that he probably
killed in seven states so how many no how many victims does that put us at if we can get him to talk about anything
let's find out everything he's willing to tell us but we also have to verify what is the truth and what is a lie so
if he's willing to take us to this gun if we go to where he says and we find the gun that tells us he might be
willing to tell us the truth and he might be able to tell us a lot of truths along the way and we can figure out
everything this guy has done well the only reason that he would cooperate anyways is to possibly take the death
penalty off the table Yeah that would be a possibility the other thing though too
is keep in mind he I believe he never he never said this directly that that I'm aware of or that we have on any type of
record anywhere but I really believe that he idolized people like Bonnie and Clyde and Charles
Starkweather and people of that nature people that gain Fame through their through their killings and through their
battles with police and law enforcement and he wanted some type of notoriety for
that be it Fame while he's still alive or notoriety after his death so he might have been willing to talk anyway in that
regard because he wants people to know what he did and he wants credit for it well and also to that point
chances of him knowing where this gun would be and a location that he wasn't familiar with
doesn't seem likely even if he is telling the truth or what he believes to be yeah but his motive could have been
as simple as okay well let's go look for this gun I'm going to talk some trash to these
officers I'm going to eventually either wrestle myself free or cause a big enough of scene that they're gonna have
to put me down then people can romanticize me more just like I did Bonnie and Clyde and individuals like
that that's a possibility and I'll get to my my thoughts here in just a second after pointing this out because we do
have Knolls his two attorneys there were two attorneys that held a press conference the day after Knowles was
shot to death and they said that Knowles was murdered by law enforcement they said that they believed that Georgia
police intended to kill Paul John Knowles that it was a setup and an execution and that Noel should have been
executed in prison after serving time on death row and not in the back of a sheriff's car bringing up the question
is this in fact a Justified killing or a setup for murder right I get it and right that that makes for the good
interesting Hollywood version of the story what I think there's a problem of here is that these officers are human
beings okay they are not bulletproof they are not something out of a DC Comic or a Marvel Superhero these people are
men they're they're just like you and I and the thing is what you have here is probably a little
bit better than we are in in your possession traveling with you alone on the highway
is a man that you know has killed multiple people he's killed an officer he's at least
more than once abducted an officer at gunpoint he's flashed guns at law enforcement he's escaped jail and and
police many times what you run the risk here of saying all right well let's uh let's set up a
situation where we get a very very dangerous individual a homicidal maniac we're going to set up a situation where
we make it easy for him to slip out of his handcuffed and make a go for our one of our guns no I don't see oh that's not
how you set it up you you shoot the son of a [ __ ] and then you take off one of his cuffs
well agreed agreed but the question that that I was asked in that that several else other people have pondered is did
they set it up in a way that Knowles would have started to escape on his own that he wouldn't have been able to
he wouldn't be able to resist the opportunity of escaping if you're going to execute the guy because you want to
put him down because of what horrible human being he is and knowing that he killed a fellow officer you're exactly
right you drive out in the middle of nowhere no Witnesses you pump him full of lead and then you make it look like
that he broke free and there was some kind of escape attempt what I really think happened here is very likely what
the story that's been presented we know he's an accomplished escape artist let's say that right he's he has
escaped police multiple times I think what has happened is that went down in that manner and very quickly these
officers are going this is not a time to decide whether it's right or wrong or what's better for anybody five minutes
from now we have to react to this very dangerous man and the only way to react in the moment is to shoot him
and I think that's what happened here well but I think there's an easy way to get good officers good people to
possibly go along with this hit being look he's been locked up before and then never works because he gets out and he's
been on the run for so long he's killed all these people and by the way he killed an officer and those two things
okay we're going to take justice and we're going to take the law into our own hands we're going to go out there kill
this guy and and rid the world of this evil crazy psychopath well and he is an example of somebody
that is not look you can't lock somebody like Knowles up and then think that Society is safe just because this man's
Behind Bars this man is dangerous as long as he is breathing air I'm not saying again I think what they they say
happened is exactly what happened I think his past Behavior shows that he will make a run for it when he can I
think he attempted to do so I think he was willing to kill both officers in the process they reacted to the situation
they put him down I think more so rather than wanting the the the fame or any part of that I think this was a
strategic move by Knowles let's get me out of These Bars let's get me in you know just with two officers
instead of in a jail with a whole bunch of them that will give me the best chance to escape well yeah because I
think so I think we manipulated the system yeah yeah but I think you agree with me the chances of him knowing where
this gun would be oh yeah I don't think he would have found it right yeah so now
we have a dead Paul Knowles and remember we have those kill tapes what what are referred to as the kill tapes that's
really just the confession that he made that he he gave these tapes to his attorney right what happens here is the
law enforcement through the court system they confiscate these tapes because they
need to use them for investigative purposes the attorneys wanted to keep them make
some kind of book or something out of them they wanted to follow through with Knowles's wishes but law enforcement and
the court systems like look this is evidence of crimes we we need this we need to take these and use these for uh
future reference probably and where we see this come to be is a cold case from 1974. so we have this
little story Captain this is a cold case from 1974 with a missing 13 year old the few details that I could find says
this 13 year old Emma Jean Sanders lived with her mother and her four-year-old sister
Emma was babysitting while Mom was at work the little four-year-old got angry when she was told to stay in the house
and she watched her older sister Emma Jean get into a van with a bunch of her friends Emma Jean never returned over a
year later a very badly decomposed body was found in a wooded area near Macon Georgia
this is in 1976 by this point and these are skeletal remains found on in Peach County
at the time investigators all they had was they knew the remains were of a young white female then fast
forward 34 years later they get some DNA from Betty wisecup who is Emma Jean's mother they do a
comparison and now they have a match so 34 years later 36 years after the child disappeared The Remains were identified
and eventually returned to Emma Jean's Mother after all this time they had some answers but not all of them then two
years after that in December of 2012 using information found in Paul John Knowles's confessions they were able to
conclude that Paul John Knowles was the killer of Imogene knoll's confession says in August of 1974 he picked up a
young female hitchhiker named Alma so he had the name a little wrong he took her
to a wooded area outside of Macon Georgia this is near where her body was found almost two years later wow he says
he raped and strangled her and then left the body there in another story this is from the Charlie project
charlieproject.org if anybody wants to go there and do some snooping around we have Lillian and Millette Anderson
who have been missing since August 1st 1971. missing from Jacksonville Florida both are classified as endangered
missing their ages at the time Lillian was 11 and Millet was just seven their distinguishing characteristics both are
Caucasian female Lillian goes by her middle name Annette and most accounts refer to her by that name
they have both have medical conditions Lillian suffers from a thyroid condition and requires daily medication and Millet
has asthma and a weak heart the details of The Disappearance are as follows Annette and her sister Millet
disappeared from Jacksonville Florida on August 1 1974. their mother left them a home
alone at approximately 6 PM while she went to care for a sick relative the girl's father
was supposed to return and arrive home from work shortly after but he got delayed by an hour or so when he did
finally get home the two girls were nowhere to be found and the family dog which usually had the run of the house
was locked up in a bedroom the girls were never heard from again that year several young girls between the ages of
6 and 12 disappeared there was a handful of them actually but because the abductions happened in different parts
of the city authorities don't believe that they are in fact related investigators theorize Annette and
Millet were killed by Paul John Knowles a Serial murderer who was killed by police later in 1974.
and on the Charlie project page for the two missing girls we have a photo of Knowles that is featured there as well
and we talked about the tape recordings the kill tapes on these tapes Knowles said he abducted two girls matching the
general description of the Anderson Sisters killed them and buried them in a remote area at the West End of
Commonwealth Avenue so even though their case their cases remains unsolved it's really believed that Knowles is
responsible for the deaths of these two young girls as well again we have this individual don't judge a book by a cover
because if I was going to cast this guy in a movie Just based off of appearance I go oh we got the cool quiet guy in the
corner or possibly the stoner hippie type that's what he looked like this guy is beyond vicious it's amazing that he's
not talked about more often well and I you know I said hey go check out those videos those online YouTube
videos of the detective that worked one of the double homicide cases in Georgia and he said the same thing he's like you
know we we have all these movies and all these books about Ted Bundy and you got
to keep in mind that area of the country they're very hyper focused on Ted Bundy
because he went down to Florida and killed a bunch of girls but he says Knowles in in this detective's
opinion he says was more vicious than Bundy and he was every bit as dangerous we're talking about two individuals that
are very similar in a lot of ways you know escaping running uh on the run from police killing while they're on the run
you know a lot of people when they're on the run from police they try to lay low
not these guys they're out killing people they're out Making Waves they're out leaving a trail of blood along the
way I felt like Ron we do have several books that were written about Knowles over the years we have Sandy Fox's book
Killing Time from 1977. I read that one that's a very good one I didn't use it for this week's
recommended reading just simply because it's very hard to get your hands on a copy of it so it's
like what good is it to recommend something that nobody can can go out and read right she did a follow-up book to
that called Natural Born Killer which really that's kind of what Knowles reminds me of you know we talk so much
about Bonnie and Clyde Bonnie Parker and Clyde burrow during these episodes but he really reminds me a lot of Mickey and
Mallory from the movie Natural Born Killers and so that other book is called Natural Born Killer in love and on the
road with a serial killer that was in 2004. I've not read that one so I can't can't put my stamp on that one and then
there's another book called one is Not Enough by Georgina Lloyd that came out in 1976.
the article that we referenced in the trailer was from a series of Articles done by
Paul muskel from The Daily News in New York back in early this would have been January 1975.
and the series was called something like he killed so many people he lost count seems like a long title yeah well it
like I said it was a series and they used to run those sometimes in the newspapers those were always interesting
it's so there are things out there there are reference materials and books written
about Knowles over the years I think that a large part of it is when you compare him and Bundy
it's not that one is more notorious than the other it's just that you have one who had such a brief
short life and Knowles who look I I didn't really spend a whole lot of time Captain trying to decipher what
happened out on the road that day with those two officers I I do not like vigilante justice at all but looking at
Knowles's track record and how many kids he killed and and the brutal homicides we know he committed and he killed a
State Trooper along the way it just didn't feel like a valuable use of my time to determine if I thought that
there was any wrongdoing at all because we know that what led to that day was a whole lot of wrongdoing by one guy right
all along the way I will say that the police and the Georgia authorities did feel that they had to
kind of back up their story enough so much so that they did present some evidence to the public which I will
applaud them for that people can consider to cover up or whatever what have you we've covered so many cases where we
criticize law enforcement for not telling us what they know when they are at a point in time where they could and
so I want to applaud them for doing that when they could here in Georgia you know
they said we found a broken paper clip in the back seat of the car that we believed is what he used to pick the
lock on the handcuffs right and we found a whole bunch of scratch marks on the handcuffs where it was looking like he
was working the Cuffs as they were driving along that day but we have these audio tapes
which I think maybe the big difference between maybe the coverage of Knowles and and Bundy is simply down
to technology we have video footage of Bundy a lot more video footage and him representing himself and
try on that being a trial that is seen by people Nationwide it's polarizing right and maybe that's why the coverage
is more but this this this individual is very um very vicious I mean one of the vicious because it's it's the crimes are
so different it's almost like you could put him in any scenario and he can become a murderer where some
of these other Killers I mean even Gacy and some of them it's like they have to lure them back to their their Lair or
get them in a vehicle or invade somebody's home this guy is like it doesn't matter how it goes down
it's going to go down well and the thing the terrifying thing for him you know he is the definition of
the word dangerous because the terrifying thing about Knowles is and we kind of mentioned this briefly in
episode one all these things he did along the way he they were necessary for him to keep
running from police and to stay out there and have his freedom the stealing the taking of cars manipulating people
that was all very necessary what was not necessary was the raping and killing that he added to the whole mix he chose
to kill all those people he was going to it was no look it was no mystery who was
committing a lot of these crimes along the way all he was doing was making it worse for him once he finally got caught
for this so it just really shows what kind of a cold-blooded killer he truly really was and I think he fancied
himself that I think he almost felt like he was living out some kind of some either some kind of fantasy or he was
living in a Hollywood movie you talked about the aliases that he used along the way but there was a name that he liked
to call himself and he called himself Mad Dog Knowles and I think that's a little bit of an insight into what he
thought of himself he thought of himself as an outlaw he thought of himself as a
dangerous dangerous man now the New York daily news referred to Paul John Knowles's cross-country killing spree as
an odyssey of casual Terror and blood hmm 18 to 35 possible victims murdered in Cold Blood
I don't know if there is a such thing as casual Terror an odyssey of casual Terror and blood I admire a great
Wordsmith for I do not possess the ability to be one just the ability to appreciate one but I think an odyssey of
casual Terror and blood is way off the Mark I like what another writer said better calling Knowles a kill crazy
monster and then you go to the question of how many victims he was charged with seven there was
thought that it could be 17 we have the sheriff who says Knowles was hinting at 18 victims and then if you go
by the kill tapes that number goes all the way up to 35. well not to mention every state that he was in when he was
on the Run anytime there's a missing teenager or younger female he's possibly responsible for or
female hitchhiker yeah so I won't go through all the cities or all the states because the list is very very long but
what we have here in regards to Knowles is we have a paper trail an extensive paper trail when he killed William Bates
in Ohio he stole William bates's credit cards and along the way he was charging food and gasoline and 37 different
states using those credit cards he was in 37 different States before they locked him up and according to detective
James Josey who worked one of the double homicide cases he said that their his Department could track Knowles to 33
States in 54 cities and it's of his belief that Knowles probably killed somebody in every one of those stops so
what is the correct number what is the true number of victims here we will very likely never ever know
now let's go back to Angela Samuel kovic she was the woman who hired the attorney
to get Knowles paroled and and he goes out to California he asked her to marry him she says no and after a handful of
days Knowles is back in Florida and he's getting ready to do a whole lot of bad bad things
well after he's captured their correspondence picks up where it left off and then shortly after he is killed
she is in the papers she is in front of the cameras saying that she believes that he was set up that he was executed
in the back of a sheriff's car by law enforcement she goes on to say I would die for him for love and to that
I go what what are you talking about because you were with this man and you said no I
don't want to marry you no I don't want to continue this relationship so it seemed to me like maybe she likes the
camera as much as Knowles did maybe she likes the notoriety or fame as much as he was seeking it Angela Samuel kovic
was in charge of making the funeral arrangements for her one-time boyfriend Paul John Knowles
at the funeral only a dozen or two people attended the service and at the funeral the Baptist Minister
that was hired for the occasion refused to say may he rest in peace [Music] thank you guys so much for listening and
tuning and being a part of the garage do we have any recommended reading this week this week I am so very proud that
we are able to pay homage to one of my favorite FBI profilers the late great Mr Roy Hazelwood Hazelwood is regarded as
the pioneer of profiling sexual predators he retired in the 90s and co-authored two books on the subject and
today we are recommending the evil that men do FBI profiler Roy hazelwood's journey into the minds of sexual
predators check out that great title and others when you go to truecrime garage.com and click on the recommended
page and it's available on Audible by the way their captain and until next week be good be kind and don't litter
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Brief Summary

Paul John Knowles, the Casanova Killer, committed multiple kidnappings and murders across several states before being shot by police in 1974.

Key points

The Casanova Killer. Paul John Knowles, dubbed the Casanova Killer, escapes and goes on a violent spree.
A Desperate Abduction. Knowles kidnaps Barbara Tucker at gunpoint after breaking into her home.
A Deadly Transformation. Knowles murders two hostages in cold blood, showcasing his descent into madness.
The Final Confrontation. Knowles is shot dead by law enforcement after a violent struggle in a police car.
The Notorious Paul John Knowles. Paul John Knowles, a serial killer, sought notoriety through his violent acts, reminiscent of Bonnie and Clyde.
The Kill Tapes. Knowles's confessions, known as the kill tapes, reveal chilling details about his crimes and victims.

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