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[Music] thank you [Music] on a warm evening in a tiny little Texas town just a short distance from Fort Worth
three teenagers were getting ready to head out together for a night of fun in fact in some ways it was likely to be
a special night it was a date night with a third wheel but a welcomed one seventeen-year-old Robert brand was a
good kid and he had been granted the use of the family car Brand's 15 year old cousin Mark dunman
was in town visiting from California Robert brand and Mark dunman climbed into the brand Family Ford
headed off to pick up Bran's girlfriend pretty 16 year old Edna Sullivan Edna was a smart and popular high
schooler all three of the teens were looking forward to the night together night out
after her parents approved Edna rushed out the door when the two teens arrived to pick her up
the three were off to catch a movie at the local drive-in movie theater the night was going well
after the movie the weather was still great they still had some time until curfews
they decided to enjoy the comfortable summer night in each other's company a little longer before heading home
so they drove around briefly before parking the car at a local baseball field the three teens got out of the Ford and
decided they would hang out near the car and just shoot the breeze some more before taking Edna back for the night
if only the weather could have been less favorable that night maybe the teens would have went straight
home after the movie and it rained at least the three of them would not have been standing outside
leaning up against the Ford in full view of whoever or whatever passed by now even though it was a Saturday night
this is a tiny Texas town so any Vehicles passing by would have been few and far between
in fact the area was a bit of a ghost town that night but only if those ghosts could talk
maybe they could have worn the teens about what was about to happen across town two men were cruising around
in a two-door Dodge with the windows down partly so they could enjoy the cool summer air and for one of them
so he could have a clear unobstructed view of the streets and the cars as they drove by slowly surveilling the
area the two men were dirty brows and chests coated with dried salty sweat from the
day's labors they had spent the day working in the hot summer sun pouring concrete
the young man in the passenger seat was 18 year old Roy Dale Greene Roy wanted to go home after working that
day after all the day was long the work was hard and he was tired but instead of going straight home he
was stuck riding shotgun with his boss's son nonetheless his boss's son was Ken Ken was two years older than Roy
Roy didn't care much for Ken Roy was afraid of Ken Ken was tall large and often during the
work days Ken liked the brag about having a criminal record after cruising around a little longer
Roy was losing his patience and he asked Ken where are we going what are we doing out here
Ken turned and gave Roy a cold dark look and said I'm looking for a girl around 10 pm Ken spotted the three teens
leaning up against the Ford near the baseball field he drove closer and told Roy to be quiet
with the windows of the Dodge still in the down position Ken slowed the car as they approached
the ball field he had his right hand on the steering wheel his left arm hanging out of the
driver's side window when they got close to the Ford Ken put his right foot gently on the brake pedal
his two-door Dodge muscle car now creeping along at a near crawl Ken wanted to really see the three teens
he wanted to observe them he wanted to look at the girl when he saw her when he really saw her
he knew that was it a beast inside of him was going to get her Ken would have it no other way
Ken lifted his foot from the brake pedal allowing the Dodge to continue on first
at the usual idling speed and then accelerating just enough to push the car down the Lonely Road at the normal speed
Ken parked his car about 150 yards down the road from the teenagers Ken told Roy
he was going to rob the teens and have a little fun can open the car door he leaned over and
retrieved his 38 Colt revolver from the glove box he looked at Roy and told him when I get
out of the car you get in the driver's seat once I get up there to those kids you pull the car up to me
Ken got out of the car and walked at a faster Pace than normal from this distance those three teenagers
almost look like tiny people they grew a little taller with each step he took towards them
it already made up his mind those little people were going to be his when he was close enough
when he was close enough he decided it was time to take control of those little people
he pulled out his gun aimed it at the oldest boy and told them if you don't do what I say I'll shoot
and kill all of you Ken demanded the keys to the victims forward with Roy following in Ken's car with
Ken's Gun still on the three Roy pulled up alongside of what Roy thought or robbery victims
Ken told the three teenagers to get in the trunk of the brand Family Ford they complied
Ken drove the victim's car along a highway once again followed behind Ken came to a field and parked in the
field Roy parked nearby Ken got out of the car and walked to the rear of the vehicle he opened up the
trunk and then at gunpoint he ordered 16 year old Edna Sullivan out of the trunk
of the fort Ken then instructed Roy to put her into the trunk of his Dodge with Edna secured in the closed trunk of
the Dodge and with the two male teens still in the trunk of the Ford huddled together
Ken said he would have to knock him off Robert brand and Mark dunman begged for their lives Ken ignored their cries and
fired six shots unloading all of the bullets from the cylinder of his revolver into the trunk
of the car killing both of the teenage boys that he had placed there they left the vehicle parked right there
on that isolated country road Ken got back into his vehicle once again he was behind the wheel Roy took to the
passenger side the girl was still in the trunk they drove off to another location this
new spot was just as secluded as the field where Kenneth executed the boys after assaulting the girl Ken used a
three foot long piece of a broomstick from his car to take her life that night Roy
and unfortunately those three kids learned what real evil was Ken was a classic case of real true Pure
Evil Kenneth Allen McDuff was six foot four inches tall 20 years old and mean as hell
it already killed three people that we know of when he was a kid they called him a bully
when he was 18. they called him the bad boy from Rosebud when he killed they called him the broomstick killer
and when he killed again they called him monster this is True Crime garage foreign
[Music] this brings us to the following morning when some fishermen made a horrific
Discovery now we should set the table first by stating that Robert Brandt's parents
were wondering what was going on heck they were probably discussing what kind of punishment to hand out as we know
from the terrible events of the previous night Robert brand and his cousin Mark dunman did not come home Edna's parents
had no clue what was going on they weren't worried at all this is because when they woke up that Sunday morning
they were completely unaware that their daughter was missing this is because Edna while she left their house Saturday
late afternoon early evening to go on her date however this was supposed to be a double
date Rhonda Chamberlain was a close friend of ednas Rondo was supposed to go on the date
with Edna so Edna and Robert were a couple and Rhonda had been on at least one maybe
two dates with Robert's cousin Mark before the night that the three youths were killed
so after Robert and Mark picked up Edna they went to Rhonda's house to pick her up
Edna was going to stay over at Rhonda's house after the double date but when they got to Rhonda's house they learned
that she was not feeling well so the three went out without her Edna still planned to stay at Rhonda's
but this is a time when we weren't all in constant communication with one another
so when Edna did not return to Rhonda's house that night she just thought that Edna decided to go
home and his parents thought that she was at Rhonda's house and they didn't know that
Edna was missing until Rhonda calls them the next morning looking for her friend
it's crazy to think about how things could have been much different if Rhonda would have went along with the friends
Rhonda could have been killed as well or possibly a group of four instead of three maybe
they're never attacked in the first place I think this monster was gonna do what he was gonna do no matter how many
people were there that's the thing with somebody like McDuff I think that if it wasn't going to be
these three youths or Edna and Rhonda or whomever I think he had made up his mind that he was going
to abduct rape and kill someone I think he was going to find a victim no matter what that night and unfortunately these
are the three that he found one is very strange too because a lot of these killers they take their
time and they roam by themselves not with the individual in their car and then on top of that they look for
one individual one vulnerable and individual it's almost like this guy wanted a challenge yes I it's hard to say it's
one of those situations too where it may have been slim pickings for somebody that's out
there looking for such a victim right but you're right it's weird that he chose to have a partner or an accomplice
that night before we get too far into the weeds let's continue on with with our timeline here Captain so the
fishermen found the brand Family Ford the next morning at Daybreak very early the vehicle was found just off of the
road in that field where the two boys were killed this is right where Kenneth McDuff and Roy green had left the
vehicle the two teenage boys still in the trunk of the car The Killers still unknown to the police
at this time and for whatever reason they had used Edna's mascara to write her name on the back window of the
vehicle from my understanding they had taken this vehicle captain and tried to wedge
it up against a fence I believe the reason that they attempted to do this is because
with the bodies in the trunk and the way that the bodies were without getting too far into these
horrific descriptions they were not able to close the trunk completely and so they decided to back it up and
wedge it up against a fence hoping to conceal the horrific scene in some form or
fashion but we now know that clearly didn't work as as soon as the sun comes up this vehicle
is spotted but what a horrific scene this is something you'd find in a horror movie so of course the county sheriff's
department was called and out they came to the death car in the field investigators found Edna's white straw
purse in the back seat of the vehicle Robert Brandt's parents were notified immediately
they were told that sheriffs found the two boys shot to death in the trunk of the car
they had located some of the girls personal belongings but they could not find the girl and they didn't really
know where to look of course Robert's parents were asked if anyone else would have been out with their son his cousin
and a girlfriend that night this led the sheriff's detectives to Rhonda the girl
that the teenage girl that by some stroke of some really good luck was not with the
three teens that were killed that night hell's authorities that she was supposed
to have gone with the three that night and that no one else was planning on going in fact she told the detectives
that Edna told Rhonda she would be at her house no later than 11 30 p.m the night before and when she didn't arrive
she thought that her friend had changed her mind and just went back to her own house after the date the sheriff now had
the terrible job of telling Edna's parents what was going on between the sheriff's department and Edna's family
neither were very hopeful the vibe I got Captain when reviewing comments it looks
like they were all but convinced that they were looking for a body at this point
this case of course is all kinds of horrible but for the detectives and the sheriff in charge they are about to get
a break in their case a break of the biggest kind now our two killers are not in the
immediate area at all in fact they are near Marlin Texas so they are in another County
from where they left the boy's bodies in the car in fact they are about two hours south
of where the murders took place we have a pretty definitive timeline here for the event so let's go through
that and see how this all plays out here captain so Kenneth McDuff and Roy Green Spot the
three teenagers a little after 10 pm as we already said the boys were killed a short time after that then McDuff and
green take the girl in mcduff's car about half of a mile north of where they left the boys
sadly and sparing the horrific details Edna was killed there a short time later after she was killed macduffin Greene
took the body carrying her further from the road they were looking for a fast way to conceal
the body they threw the body over a fence they hopped the fence and then dragged the body leaving it behind some
bushes after they concealed the body they decided that it was time to get out of
there they have a considerable drive to make they're going to drive mcduff's Dodge back to Roy Green's apartment
which is near Marlin Texas during the early portion of the drive McDuff discards the broomstick and spent
shell casings from his revolver he does this simply by tossing them out of his window throwing the items at random
spots along the roadside this to me Captain is always interesting when we get details like this because
we see how often these types of criminals these types of killers they truly mimic one another either
knowingly or unknowingly there's at least a dozen killers that we've talked about that when asked how they got rid
of the evidence or concealed the evidence so well they're nonchalant about it they're like
yeah I just tossed it out the car window as I was driving away from the scene while they disguard their victims as
trash so they're disregarding the evidence as trash as well now also on the way home they stop off and purchased
Coca-Cola from a Hillsborough gas station at this same gas station both McDuff and green disposed of some of
their bloody clothing then they arrive at Roy Green's place and they spend the night there
now we mentioned that McDuff like to brag to Roy at work about his criminal record yeah because he's a piece of [ __ ]
Roy believed that most of it if not all of these evil Deeds that McDuff claimed to have committed were simply as the
kids say bull pucky I wonder what Roy was thinking now after these murders yeah because this is
evidence that this guy he's been telling you he's a piece of [ __ ] he's telling
you he does shitty things and now he's proved to you that he is a monster after killing Edna on the drive back and while
they're trying to go to sleep that night so McDuff is saying some real scary [ __ ]
to Roy in fact he told him that even before the hell of this night that he had already raped and killed two women
he's also coaching Roy on what to say and what to do should Roy get questioned by police about the events of that night
this guy's a real turd sniffer he's telling him things like you just want to say nothing at all
don't don't say anything at all when they try to press you for answers when they keep asking you questions get
an attorney he even says when they start to beat on you we got to keep in mind this is Texas in
the 60s that sounds like a real party when they start to beat on you just keep your mouth shut because whatever you get
afterwards you know whatever you get from being found guilty or being put in prison will be a lot worse done to you
than what the cops will do to you so just keep your mouth shut get an attorney we didn't see each other
tonight he also says and this is unfortunately one of the more famous quotes from
Kenneth McDuff but he tells Roy Dale green killing a woman is like killing a chicken they both squawk well this guy's
all kinds of levels crazy and all kinds of levels demented at this time Kenneth McDuff is 20 years old
what I'm seeing here Captain is look we we need to be perfectly honest here Roy Dale green terrible dude he was
involved in this stuff with McDuff he was his accomplice but what we're seeing what I see here is
two very different sets of actions and behaviors by these two people that committed these crimes together
one we have McDuff who appears to be the the the leader the driving force between
the two he says he wanted to find a girl he's the one that puts them in the position to be out looking for victims
and all along he's not only steering the ship but he seems to know what the hell
he's doing he seems to be concealing evidence and instructing Roy what to do if he's
spoken to by the police or interviewed by Detectives so well one could argue that this was
going to happen whether Roy was with him or not exactly and I feel like we're talking about a situation here Captain
where either Kenneth McDuff has done this before so he knows what he's doing or he's put a whole hell of a lot of
thought into it and planned a lot of this stuff in advance and now he's carrying out those plans this night and
as we will see the following day as well well and like you said he is the definition of a monster the three youths
were killed late Saturday night the following day the death car in the bodies of Robert and Mark are found that
morning we already said that the girl's purse was found and its contents emptied
out into the vehicle now authorities also recovered the boy's wallets these were found in the car as well both
emptied out but the sheriff and his men they have no clue they they have no idea
Sunday morning where 16 year old Edna is [Music] thank you [Music] be ready [Music]
all right we are back cheers mates to the people in the front and the people in the back and to Colonel cheers he's
back I'm back don't ask us what our middle names are you're strange so that same morning
we're about a hundred miles away we have Kenneth McDuff he wakes up at his co-worker slash his accomplice to a
triple homicides apartment Roy Dale green now for McDuff this looks like it's just truly just another day for
this guy but for his accomplice Roy Greene if he managed to get any sleep at all I would be surprised but for him Roy
he woke up in a nightmare he quickly found himself in a mental hell full of emotional turmoil well he
deserves it McDuff tells green that they are going to bury mcduff's revolver beside Green's garage and they do
how convenient for green that they're going to put the murder weapon of two individuals
right there next to his his house or his apartment then the two of them Drive the Dodge
to the home of a mutual friend so this guy's name is Richard Boyd Boyd is actually the one who introduced Roy
Greene to Kenneth McDuff only about a month prior to the murders now it's really hard to say for certain
but I don't think that Boyd was made aware of what his two friends had done the night before or at least not at this
point in our timeline but Boyd allowed McDuff to wash and scrub clean his car at his home that day now Boyd these are
still relatively young dudes right McDuff is 20. and Roy green is only 18 at this time I don't know how old Boyd
is but Boyd still lives with his parents so we could assume similar ages the other two guys by this time of of the
day on Sunday with the discoveries of the boys bodies and the car earlier that morning
the story is all over the news by the middle of the day there in Texas then once Kenneth McDuff is gone once he
leaves Boyd's home Roy Dale green the accomplice he hears the news of the two boys being found in
the trunk of Robert Brandt's parents car on the radio and he breaks down and starts crying so
then green he then confesses about the murders to Richard Boyd's parents Boyd's parents
tell Green's mother what Roy green said that he and Kenneth McDuff had done the night before
Green's mother then convinces Roy Greene that he needs to turn himself in so on that Sunday the searches for Edna
the missing girl they lasted all day however they came up with nothing they couldn't find her but that was all about
the change because Roy green came clean to the sheriff and he told him what he did yeah so we actually have Roy
Greene's statement that he gave to detectives on that Sunday yes this is Roy green it's his writing it's him
speaking if you will here he says we rode around the baseball park and wound up on a gravel road McDuff and often he
just says he when referring to McDuff he saw a car parked there and we stopped about 150 yards in front of it he got
his gun and told me to get out I thought it all was a joke I just didn't believe
what he said was going to happen I went halfway to the car with him and he went on he told the kids in the car
to get out or he would shoot them I went up there and he had put them in the trunk of their car
he drove his car back to their car and he told me to get in his car and follow him I did and we drove for a while
across the highway we had come in on and he pulled into a field I followed and he
said that the field wouldn't do so we backed up and went to another field he got out and told the girl to
get out he told me to put her in the trunk of his car I opened the trunk and she
climbed in it was then that he said that we couldn't leave any Witnesses or something like that he said I'm going to
have to knock him off or something like that I got really scared I still thought he
was joking but I wasn't sure they were on their knees begging him not to shoot them they said we're not going to tell
anybody I turned towards him and he stuck the gun into the trunk where the boys were and started shooting I saw the
Fire come out of the gun on the first shot I covered my ears and looked away shot six times
he shot one twice in the head and shot the other boy four times in the head a bullet went through the boy's arm as he
tried to stop the fire he tried to close the trunk but it wouldn't close he then told me to back
up his car by that time I was almost dying of fright and I did what he said he got in the boy's car and backed it
into a fence and he got out and told me to help him wipe off the fingerprints I wasn't going to argue with him I was
expecting to be next so I helped him what a situation to be in like he said if he's telling the truth
at some point he just thinks that this is all just a joke and that nobody's this crazy and nobody
is this monstrous and nobody's gonna just kill these two guys just so he can get to this girl
well I said earlier I would be surprised if he got any sleep at all Kenneth McDuff is there at his apartment with
him that night after these murders and in fact in his statement he goes on to explain what happened after they killed
the boys but we don't need to tell every story or every part of the story we'll we'll spare everyone the details of what
happened after that simply to show a little bit of respect to to our female victim here but
you can see in his statement like you said Captain if Roy green is telling the truth there he goes very quickly from
believing a this is a game a this is a joke this large jerk that I have to hang out with for work uh he's just making
all this stuff up he's trying to be some time some kind of tough weird guy uh to Roy green believing that Kenneth
McDuff was going to kill him as well and his statements were that you know I was
nearly frightened to death by that time he tells me we can't leave any Witnesses
or something like that he's probably sitting there thinking holy [ __ ] I'm a witness as well even though I was riding
shotgun in mcduff's car I technically am a witness here and so of course green once he turns himself in
he's going to be asked by reporters you know why did you turn yourself in and he
says that he he just couldn't stop thinking about what he had witnessed and what he was a part of and even the
things that he had done the night before he said that I quote I could not live with myself I didn't want it on my mind
he was saying things like every time I close my eyes I was seeing events from the night before
and he even said that he was hearing The Haunting moans of the two boys like he couldn't quit hearing that
and so unfortunately he did not do the right thing on that Saturday night but he does the right thing on that Sunday
and turns himself in after being counseled to do so by his parents his mother and Boyd's parents as well
but question for you what is the right thing at the in that moment he just killed two guys in front of you that he
says are witnesses like you say in his mind if he thinks he's a witness then everything that he's doing is just
self-preservation at that point it is with the exception of some of the things that took place afterwards when they
moved Edna to another location um he he's he's got blood on his hands and that's the about the most polite way
that I can put it um you know Aetna wasn't unfortunately and this sounds weird to say
unfortunately Edna was not shot like the boys were she had a much slower lengthier death and McDuff used a
broomstick to not just choke her with it essentially Crush her her neck her throat you know whether
green was did it out of being terrified or what have you he was part of that he was there for
that he helped control this young girl all the while and and you're right Captain it's it's
it's easy for for dumb garage guy here that's sitting in the air conditioning with a with a cold beer
in the in in the comfort of our own garage to to to sit up on Mount Pius here and say what is the right thing and
what is the wrong thing and none of us really know what to do how the hell any of I I just
telling the story to I can understand Roy Green's Terror because just telling this story makes the hair stand up on on
my arms and so I can I get it that he says that he's he's terrified how I'm a little scared telling the story here
myself but it's it's one of those things that you just if I'm in the situation hell
yeah I'm terrified hell yeah I'm scared and yeah you're right it becomes self-preservation at some point I guess
in hindsight looking back on it what you say here is if there's any opportunity to get your hands on that
gun that's the right thing that's the right thing to do if you have an opportunity to get your hands on that
gun that's the right thing to do now we've referenced a little bit Kenneth mcduff's size but you know 18 to 20
dudes that are a little older can be a little intimidating Kenneth McDuff is in intimidating by Nature not just by his
size but by his actions the way that he speaks and he's he's very he's very cold
and very rugged and he's six foot four about 200 pounds he was a little thin at this point but you take a look at a
picture of Roy green and Roy green looks like a boy I mean I know that he's 18 years old but he looks like he was about
15 in the pictures that I've seen and he's real thin so Gunner no gun we'll try to put some
of those pictures up on Instagram but I would argue first of all you're a piece of [ __ ] for hanging out with somebody
that you think is a piece of [ __ ] if you think this guy is dangerous you don't
like this guy you shouldn't be hanging out with him in the first place but then you get into this odd situation
where yeah if you can get a hold of that gun that maybe you can control the situation maybe you can
kill this guy but if not if this guy kills you if you if you act up and he gets nervous that
you are now just going to be another eyewitness if if he kills you this becomes a
quadruple homicide and I don't know if this case gets solved at that point your only hope for
solving this case is connecting Kenneth McDuff to Roy Greene because there is a connection there there's no connection
between Kenneth McDuff Roy green and the three teens that were killed and and green you know he he worked with
McDuff he they were co-workers so and they had worked all day that day together in that area and it was after a
couple beers after work that McDuff decided he wanted to find a girl as he said and so I don't know how much we
would say that Roy green was hanging out with McDuff I get I get more of the impression of like this is a guy that I
work with he's kind of my boss because his father owns the company that that I work for and I feel like
this is a dude that he had to be around Kenneth McDuff and probably didn't like him and thought that
a lot of what this guy said was was complete hogwash uh you know bragging about being
some kind of of criminal but so some reports here Captain say that Kenneth McDuff was arrested Sunday night
others other Reports say that he was arrested sometime on Monday so I'm not certain
which one is factually true either way arresting Kenneth McDuff is a much different operation
than arresting Roy Greene green turned himself in going not only along willingly
but telling investigators everything he knew about the crimes and the evidence with Kenneth McDuff it's a whole
different situation they they're trying to find him they're trying to locate him
because they get his name in in some of his information from Roy green but this dude's already
committed a whole bunch of crimes a lot of kind of petty crimes in the area so this is a guy that is well known to the
local authorities he's well known to the sheriff yeah he's what I like to call a local known bag of
[ __ ] I think we need to dig into something here you know who is Kenneth McDuff leading up to this and we hinted
around about his troubles with the law and the trailer a bit but this is a guy that the authorities in the area the
sheriff and his Department were well aware of Kenneth McDuff and his family so Kenneth McDuff grew up in the Tiny
Town of Rosebud Texas back in the late 60s the town was so small that it was often referred to as a
one-horse town the most recent the 2020 census shows just over 1200 residents like most
Texas towns on your list of notable people one may expect to find someone of notable football Fame so even in this
Tiny Town Rosebud has three one successful Collegiate football coach and two NFL players one of which is
legendary Hall of Famer LaDainian Tomlinson but it's a short list of people which makes sense with a small
population but the list of notable persons from Rosebud is just four names long three of the men of football
excellence and the other unfortunately is Kenneth McDuff next to his name it says the broomstick killer
a serial killer responsible for the deaths of 9 to 14 people a man who reshaped the criminal justice
system in Texas well let's dive more into his background in history Kenneth's mother Addie was locally called the
pistol pack in mama because she was known to regularly carry carry a gun and had a reputation for
pulling a gun on people in town she says she carried the gun because Rosebud was a rough Place back then
Rosebud was likely a rough place because of her son's Lonnie and Kenneth the mcduffs had four kids total two
girls and two sons Kenneth was the youngest of the four now in school Kenneth was known to be
intelligent a loner and a bully well that's commonly known as the smartass jackass he did not finish High School
and he started to break the law when he was about 16 years old later The Falls County Sheriff would
tell people that Kenneth and his older brother Lonnie were two of the roughest hoodlums Falls County Texas had back in
the 60s and we're talking about this he's he's talking about them before these murders
now Kenneth's father owns a successful concrete business the one that we mentioned that Roy
Greene was working for Kenneth's mother owned a laundromat so while they are as successful family
they are plenty Rough Around the Edges if you will if you want to talk about obvious murderous Tendencies signs of a
future serial killer here's one for you as a boy Kenneth McDuff in his spare time would walk around with a 22 caliber
gun and was known around town for shooting and killing small animals and birds so
to be perfectly clear here he's not hunting in the sense that one would go out and hunt for sport say like a deer
hunter no he's just walking around with the 22 and if he sees an animal or a bird he's likely to shoot it just for
his own Amusement that's because he's a freaking barbaric psychopath now one major issue captain in my humble garage
opinion here is that Kenneth and his brother Lonnie were it looks like they were allowed to
pretty much do what they wanted to with little to no consequences and this is because largely in part of
their mother Addie their mother considered her two sons to be perfect little angels while as we mentioned the
sheriff and the deputies referred to Kenneth and Lonnie as two of the roughest hoodlums and Hooligans in town
so quite a contrast in opinions there I should say well what's crazy here is that you'd think that you'd have some
respect he has a strong-minded strong-willed mother and he has two siblings two sisters and I don't know
you'd think he'd have some kind of natural respect for women so Kenneth starts to get into trouble around the
age of 16 at some point he drops out of high school His official criminal record
began two years before these murders in 1964 at age 18 McDuff was convicted of 12 counts of burglary and attempted
burglary in three different Texas counties so Falls County Bell County and Milam County
he was sentenced to 12 four-year prison terms which would have been great because then he would have been locked
up instead of being out in 66 committing these murders but the terms the prison terms were to be served
concurrently so you're not getting 12 four-year prison terms you're basically getting
one you're serving them all at the same time one four-year prison term yeah which is
pretty ridiculous so he actually makes parole in December of 1965. he's out of prison
for a short period of time but then returned to prison after becoming involved in some type of fight this must
have been a violation of his parole so he sent back to prison briefly and he is soon released after
that well it's just so crazy how many times we hear about these killers that if they would have
serve their full term that they wouldn't have been out of prison to commit this new crime so that brings us up to
1966 when these three murders are committed and like we said arresting McDuff is a completely different
situation than arresting Roy Greene they had to figure out one where McDuff would be and because of his nature and
what they knew about him already and regardless of burying the gun near Roy Green's
Homer Apartments they were worried law enforcement was worried about McDuff being armed and of
course he's considered to be very dangerous so they wanted to kind of Ambush him and their first attempt at
arresting McDuff was he had told green and some other people that he had a date which would have been Sunday
the day after the murders so they try to Ambush him when picking up his date and I don't know if they
arrived on the scene late they they may not have known all the the details the the important stuff to to
kind of corner this guy but they end up having to fire a significant amount of bullets at McDuff
and his vehicle and it's only after they shoot out his tires and arrest him with
guns drawn that he gives himself up he's arrested and immediately he's saying yeah I I'm innocent I didn't have
anything to do with with whatever that kid's talking about Roy Green's a liar is his basic defense
well that's his whole thing denied denied denied don't ever admit that you know anything well there's some problems
with his defense right first of all when you look at this Roy green and this is something that it's it's tough to kind
of convey to a jury and to people out there listening but the sheriff and his investigators
a lot of times we've seen this Captain where somebody comes forward with some kind of confession or some kind of
Fantastical story and they're able to see through it or they're able to start looking at
evidence and timelines and things like that and start to say you know not everything that this guy's saying lines
up in this situation it all lines up Rory Green's Story the timeline and the evidence and where he tells them they
can find stuff it all lines up and the defense of McDuff saying you know what this kid he's a liar he asked
to borrow my vehicle and he went out and did all this stuff himself on his own the problem for that is what so you you
gave your co-worker your gun and your vehicle and he went out and committed these Crimes by himself you have a
police record you are known in town to be this rough hole again and hoodlum and a bully and then
the evidence doesn't match up with mcduff's story right when you think about it because
it's [ __ ] we know that you had to have two people committing this crime or at the very least one person committing
the crime who was in control enough that he was able to have one of the victims drive the car because we we're moving
two vehicles at one time at during this timeline of these events that takes two people to do that so that goes against
McDuff and that's a score one for Roy Greene but also remember they stopped off at that gas station on the way home
this is about halfway roughly between where the murders were committed and where Roy green lives and one thing that
they were able to figure out again they have all of Roy Green's story here they go to that gas station and two
things happen there they find little chocolate ones they find two pieces of clothing that are
discarded that that have blood on them and these are two pairs of men's underwear so either Roy green did
this by himself and he was wearing two pair of underwear and and disposes of them in a trash can at this gas station
or he had a he had somebody with him and he says McDuff is the guy that was with
him and then on top of that McDuff is not he's not somebody that you're going to
easily mistake him for somebody else he's a pretty distinctive looking person right he's six foot four
he's tall he's got a nose like a beak he's got jet black hair he's somebody that would be easily
picked out of a crowd and you have the gas station attendant the person working there that night this is yeah it was two
of them that stopped here a tall guy and a young guy yeah and mcduff's your guy so got him all of these things fall in
favor of Roy Greene telling the truth and not that of Kenneth McDuff telling the truth this is going to bring us up
to the trial that begins in November of 1966. one thing that is incredibly strange here to me
in this cat in the story here Captain you know you find these little details that are just they're haunting and
they're bizarre but the murders again if in fact this was the first murders that Kenneth McDuff
was a part of and again by his own words to Roy green this these were not the first time that he had committed such
terrible Acts but this crime these triple this triple homicide was committed August 6 1966.
this is literally just days after the the Texas Tower shooting yeah Charles Whitman August 1st 1966 is when Charles
Whitman aged 25 climbed up that Tower in Austin Texas and opened fire on the people down below
and then you have five days later this incredibly horrific triple homicide that takes place
near the Fort Worth Texas area and so because of all this stuff is news Whitman was was dead after the events
that took place in Austin McDuff is alive and going to go to trial and the guy that helped him commit these
murders says this guy's a monster he's he's Pure Evil and the local law enforcement's agreeing with them and of
course the victim's family are saying all the same things and so the reporters want to know what somebody like Kenneth
McDuff would think of the Texas Tower shootings and Charles Whitman and he he is that guy must have been
Disturbed he must have been crazy it takes one to no one like you're not right like you're not there yeah and for
anybody that wants to check out that case we covered it episode 229 Charles Whitman and like the captain said the
trial started in November of 1966. so very quick right from the time of the murders to the arrest to the trial it
was August and now it's November and we are in a courtroom and we are going to try Kenneth McDuff for a triple homicide
also charging him with robbery rape and abduction the two individuals Roy Greene and
Kenneth McDuff will be actually tried separately because for obvious reasons Roy Greene is the
state's star witness he's not only the state's star witness but he is the key to trying to put away
this murderer this monstrous murderer McDuff [Music] oh I see so much more to get into to dive into
tomorrow join us back here in the garage let us get back into your ear balls until tomorrow be good be kind and don't
litter [Applause] foreign [Music]

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www.TrueCrimeGarage.com This week we take a look at a triple homicide case from the greater Fort Worth, Texas area. This is the case that should have stopped a Serial Killer and shut him down for good. A killer that one Sheriff said has absolutely no conscience, and he enjoys killing. With a gun and a broomstick, Kenneth McDuff took the lives of three teenagers back in 1966. Then a little more than twenty years later Texas paroled him. The paroled killer was now free to kill again and again. Join us in the Garage for a cold beer and a chilling conversation about true and pure evil.

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Brief Summary

Three Texas teens are abducted and murdered by Kenneth McDuff and Roy Greene in 1966, leading to a shocking confession and trial.

Key points

A Night of Fun Turns Tragic. Three teenagers head out for a fun night, but fate has other plans.
The Predator's Intent. Ken McDuff's dark intentions become clear as he spots the teens.
A Chilling Confession. McDuff reveals his twisted mindset to his accomplice.
The Monster Defined. Kenneth McDuff is described as the definition of a monster, involved in horrific crimes.
Roy Greene's Confession. After hearing about the boys' bodies, Roy Greene confesses to the murders.
The Arrest of Kenneth McDuff. Law enforcement's tense ambush leads to Kenneth McDuff's arrest after a violent confrontation.

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Episode quotes

If only the weather could have been less favorable that night.

Reflecting on the events leading to the tragedy.

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Tension

85/ 100High tension

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