Serial Killer /// Scott Lee Kimball /// Part 2 /// 383 | Forensic Files

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and alien we have Tony Wheels I put enough Flyers what he wanted me to give him a couple Flyers
and then he told me at the same time he said well if you guys stay tomorrow I'll take you up in the mountains
could he show us where she was but then he had told me before he couldn't understand why they hadn't went
and got her body and picked her up and he told us that they had the reason they told her exactly where she was was
because they wanted her to get her breast implants and her Northland so they told him and I asked him did he so
did they just draw over a ravine no no they didn't throw her over no flip for nothing she buried
he assured me of that and then he knew exactly where she was married at because he had told him to a
map or something so I told her I'm crazy you know he said she said what he's going to come over to the motel
tonight and he's going to show me how Jennifer was murdered and if it hurts too much to tell him to
stop then he'll stop can any he's going to take me up in the mountains and show him where she's
buried he was going to demonstrate how she was killed on her specifically how she was murdered
did he ever come over and do that he came over that all right well we got back from hotel room and she said that
we couldn't be there at the motel room we were supposed to leave did he said that for him to come and do
this and she would we was going to have to leave and I thought I told her me and
Noah went down there and told her you know you're crazy Mary if you do that he's going to kill you
and you're not going to ever be seen again your marriage it was she didn't care she
wanted to know where her daughter was and she had to be killed then that was just the way it was
did that meeting ever take place willing to give up for life to find out what happened to Jim and she was crying and
so we told her if you do that you know you're going to be dead Scott comes by there later on that
evening he doesn't show up till 12 o'clock at night well he goes and knocks on Mary's door
Marion said she didn't tell him her room number that she was a go to medium in the lobby when he came but for some
reason he comes right to a door she looked out to people and there's Scott knocking on her door
so then she says she starts fumbling around and asking acting like she's doing other things
and uh tell him well go down Lobby and I'll be down in a minute I got to do some things
and he said he kept telling her he wanted her to let him in he wanted to make sure he wanted to take her clothes
off and check her and make sure she didn't have the wire on it and once she did that then each other you know how
Jennifer would park foreign [Music] Scott Kimball is out of prison living under a new identity that was provided
to him by the FBI now one of the first things that Scott did once he was out was to contact a woman named Leanne
Emery Leanne is 24 years old and she's a veterinary assistant but more importantly to our story Leanne is the
girlfriend of an inmate who was friends with Scott so as you can see from our first episode and already into this one
Scott was very busy while he was in prison because while he was behind bars not only did Scott manage to and I'm
using air quotes here discover Steve Ennis and Jennifer markham's supposed murder for higher plot Which Scott made
up Scott also made friends with an inmate named Stephen Hawley so Stephen Hawley is a convicted bank
robber he's serving a life sentence and because he's going to be in prison for the rest of his days he's got a really
good idea Captain he's going to escape from prison one of these days now Stephen becomes buddies with Scott and
he knows that Scott is going to be out soon so he tells his buddy Scott could you do me a favor once you get out I
want you to get in contact with my girlfriend her name's Leanne and I want you to tell her the details of my prison
escape plan that way she can meet up with me in Mexico once I'm out and once I'm free
so in a letter to his girlfriend Stephen told Leanne to listen to Scott to trust
him saying that he's a really great guy and he says I call this guy Hannibal so please call him Hannibal
so Scott did he called Leanne he got in contact with her he introduced himself to her as Hannibal right this was might
be the first indication that Scott Kimball fancied himself some sort of Hannibal
lecter-esque type you know conniving scheming genius kind of dude now Scott wasn't interested in a friendship or a
trusted advisor role with Leanne like he was asked to do by his friend Stephen nope just in typical Scott fashion he's
going to take advantage of the situation so Scott swooped in and swept her off her feet he stole Leanne from Stephen
to Leanne Scott but then he also tells Stephen that he could possibly get her a job as well no I believe he told that to
her uh he may have told that to him I don't I don't know the circumstances of that
what I believe he was charged with by his good friend convicted bank robber Stephen Hawley was simply to get in
contact with her and say to her hey this is where we can meet up once I escape and when I escape to Leanne Scott
presented himself as a tough guy who knew powerful people and who could get things done emails
from Leanne to her cousin written in January of 2003 state that Hannibal is quote a major blessing in my life end
quote Leanne well she was vulnerable she had bipolar disorder she was working as a stripper
she had been in an abusive marriage before and then mind you at this time she's in a relationship with a convicted
bank robber who's in prison Scott and Leanne were involved in a sexual relationship just within days of
meeting and Leanne made vague references to criminal activity that Hannibal was involved in she said that he could have
her killed if he wanted to she did not know how right she probably was in January this is on the 16th in 2003
Leanne lied to her parents whom she lived with at the time she told them that she was going to Mexico on a cave
exploration trip with some friends instead what was really going on Captain she left the area with Scott Kimball who
she believes is Hannibal the two traveled through seven states mostly together but at times separately as
Scott had to stop into Seattle on FBI business he must have instructed Leanne on how to get by using overdraft checks
because Leanne wrote checks overdrawing her account by four thousand dollars during this time the trail bad checks
shows that she traveled from Colorado and stopped in Wyoming Oregon Washington and Nevada before returning to Colorado
and checking into a super eight motel in Grand Junction this on January 27th well wasn't she running up charges
on her father's credit card as well yeah yeah she was and and she also bought a 40 caliber Firestar handgun at a pawn
shop in Oregon along this uh this trip that she was taking we know that these means these the credit card charges and
these checks they're possibly her we don't have 100 proof that she was doing this it could
have been Scott doing this that's a very good point that's a very good point and
here's something I wonder about too the purchase of this firearm if she in fact was the one that purchased it
you wonder is this Scott Kimball that says hey we need to get a gun for our trip or you should
have a gun and it's really going to be for him in some some form right because this at some point she could have said
hey I'm going to go on this um adventure with friends and she takes off with Scott at some point it could turn into a
hostage situation where he's going I have control of you now you're going to do everything I tell you to do well
what's going to happen is really it's a bit of a mystery truthfully because on January 28th
Scott told his FBI Handler this is Agent schlaf that we discussed in the last episode that he was going to go to
California okay I'm going to California I'm going there to see my brother at this time Scott's phone goes offline for
about 29 hours came back on at 1 13 a.m on January 30th now during the time that the phone was
offline something else took place this is on January 29th Leanne Emery checked out of the Grand Junction Colorado Super
8 Motel where she where she stayed that night right she was never seen alive again
as soon thereafter her father Howard Emery got word that her car had been found abandoned in the state of Utah
yeah not just a bandit it was pretty much like in the desert yeah and then in February of 2003 Howard started
receiving letters from Leanne's incarcerated boyfriend Stephen Hawley in the letters Stephen
told Howard that his daughter was in real trouble one of the letters read quote I don't fully understand what the
hell she thought she was doing but I know she is way out of her League alarmed by these letters Howard checked
on Leanne's paper trail to see where she had actually been and this is when he discovered all the bounce checks uh
through multiple States right Howard took all of this to the FBI office in Denver where he was told that Stephen
Hawley is a liar where you know we we don't we don't see that there's any kind of case or any needed investigation here
because the man that you're speaking to the convicted bank robber serving life in prison he's a liar
and you know how they know they just check to see if his pants are on fire that's a bad joke uh Happy St Patrick's
Day the FBI refused to follow up as we said on this now this remained the case even after Howard met with Stephen
Hawley in prison and this is where Holly told him that Leanne was with he believed he was she
was with somebody that went by the name Hannibal so you have a little bit of a lead there but it's it's interesting
that Scott Kimball was either just a just a stroke of luck here right or is it some kind of Brilliance that he
already had this this other name that he was using in relation to Stephen Hawley
it almost makes the trail go cold because there is no real Hannibal out there you wonder how much this could
have been followed up on if if they would have taken the time to to do so now probably all at the same time or
right around the same time captain that Scott was involved with this Leanne Emery Scott worked his charms on
Jennifer Markham remember we spoke about her a little bit you'll recall that Jennifer was the girlfriend of Steve
Ennis Scott's cellmate and the supposed co-conspirator in a murder a murder plot against drug dealer Jason
price it seems that she was possibly an important witness as well in a federal drug case and that's why the FBI they
let Scott out but remember he's out with the idea of here's your fake identity we
need you to keep an eye on her and stop any possible murder plots that might be about to take place
captain Scott Kimball may have been quite the ladies man I don't know or at least he's
just very persuasive because by February 16th Jennifer Markham moved out of the temporary place that
she was staying this was with the father of her child but this was not to be this
doesn't sound to me like this was a long-term place that she was going to stay was just temporary right
she moves out but she moves in with Scott Kimball okay so I know there's a lot going on
here but in a very short period of time Scott Kimball gets out of prison gets a a new identity he befriends this Leanne
Emery she goes missing at the end of January and already by what the second week of February he's getting involved
at least to the point where Jennifer Markham is willing to move in with him and I think it may have been or it was some
kind of like I said I don't think he has the slickness or the charm that maybe a
Bundy did but he has this slickness and not a slickness but he has I think it more of
a charm coming from like a a big brother or a a father figure yeah and the I guess if you were to
compare the two my thoughts on that would be kind of a different scenario where Scott Kimball has to fool or trick
a woman or anybody else for that matter kind of a little more long-term wacko Ted Bundy all he's trying to
trying to get you to believe is maybe he broke his arm and you just got to get in
his car or help him carry some books or something that's kind of a short-term uh
uh thing but but yeah you're right he doesn't seem to have the uh sexual appeal oh God all right I didn't
know I don't know what to call it happy St Patrick's Day um his parents weren't on fire but
regardless she moves out of this place she goes to stay with Scott and I'm with you I think it's just to
she may have been moving from one temporary housing situation to another right so
Jennifer is a by all accounts a good mother um she worked as a stripper at Shotgun
Willies this to it's just one of those situations sometimes you got to do what you got to do what her what her father
says what he told Dateline was she worked a job she really didn't want to just to put food on the table for her
her son for her child right Jennifer was also involved with a drug dealing felon
as we know remember Steve Ennis who was in prison and was Scott's one-time cell mate
this regardless of whatever happened she ends up moving in with Scott whatever the relationship is is not quite clear
but he's telling her this guy is a just a bevy of lies and he's telling her that he owns a coffee cart business in
uh Seattle and that he could get her what he's calling it you know I can get you a real
job because I'm the owner of this little business yeah she did bring a bunch of furniture with
her when she moved in uh the two plan to leave on a trip to Washington State on the 18th this was under the ruse that
that Jennifer could learn how to manage the coffee business from Scott now on March 27th
Jennifer markham's vehicle was found at the Denver International Airport where they were able to figure out
that the car had been parked there since February 18th so you know I went to public school so
what the math is here that but that's over a month right on your computer yeah let me let me type it in uh this is over
a month but the other tricky thing here too is not only did the car sit at the Denver
International Airport for all of this time there's no record of Jennifer having ever boarded a flight ever
departing from the area on a plane right what is this car doing there why is it seemingly left abandoned there
the FBI did impound the vehicle but it was not searched for months as far as records show her parents were not
notified that the vehicle had been found until nearly about a year later yeah look if there's no evidence I'm not
going to fault anybody for not searching the vehicle but the fact that you're not
notifying her parents yeah and I understand that we have this whole concept that oh well they're
adults they're allowed to go missing if they want to but it just seems like law enforcement's
just going yeah well she was a stripper so you know what's more confusing does it matter well it doesn't matter if we
tell our parents what's more confusing to me on that whole level Captain is I I guess I get not telling her parents but
what we have here what we have here is we have an individual that you have let somebody out of prison to keep
an eye on and her car is found abandoned at an airport and it's been there for over a month that seems like something
to look into right you're hiding something if you're worth it yeah for somebody yeah or their but or they're
hiding something and that's the other thing too you have to wonder what the FBI believed they were getting out of their
preferential treatment of Scott Kimball because it's not really clear we we would later learn that he did wear a
wire for them at least on one occasion he did manage to get some what what some may call
semi-incriminating statements on tape in a conversation between Scott and Jennifer she did not solicit him or
anyone else to to kill anyone but she did describe Jason Pierce who remembered the FBI believed this is the mark that
this is the target Jason Pierce as a scumbag Who quote deserves to die Scott must have been dangling just
enough information in front of them that this made the agents feel they were getting somewhere in this whole
situation because they did continue to work with Scott now according to the Daily Camera Scott
remained out of prison with the continual help of the federal government Scott's Handler at the FBI made repeated
calls to a Montana prosecutor this to delay Scott's Court hearings in the 2001 escape and theft cases that he was still
facing charges there in March of 2003 Scott signed a plea deal on the 2001 check fraud cases in
Alaska Scott pled guilty to two counts of counterfeiting a check despite having essentially stolen thousands of dollars
he agreed to continue cooperating with the government and in return prosecutors recommended that he get the shortest
sentence possible at the sentencing in December of 2003 judge Marcia Krieger sentenced Scott to three years of
supervised release even though this was technically his fifth felony conviction yeah it's ridiculous she recognized that
he had cooperated with the government saying that the government points to at least three instances in which the
defendant has provided substantial assistance in the investigation or prosecution of another person who is
committed an offense the judge ordered Scott to pay Wells Fargo the bank 8287.94 in restitution
judge Krieger did make a very truthful remark she said that Scott's Behavior smacks of an attitude of I'm happy to
turn other people in but I don't want to be held fully accountable for my own behavior
by the end of March 2003 it seemed that the FBI was really starting to question their informant on
what was going on with his Target with Jennifer Markham of course they had no idea that she was
missing they found the vehicle but nobody investigated the abandoned vehicle they also never received any information
from the person Scott Campbell that they appointed to watch her that she was missing so Scott told agent schlaff that
Jennifer had purchased a gun and then took a flight to New York to kill her Target Jason Pierce a member of Steve
ennis's drug gang whom she and Steve were plotting to murder meanwhile Scott had to earn a living
somehow now it looks like he had actually planned for all of this while he was still in prison making as many
friends as possible who would trust him so he could betray them later once he's out at their expense one such Target was
a nearly 70 year old doctor named John alderman John had also shared a cell with Scott
in the pen during his stay in Colorado the doc was in for tax evasion when John was released he contacted Scott he's
asking for help he needs things like you know I gotta set up somewhere to live and get my life back together now that
I'm out he asked Scott to cash a check for him since his bank accounts had all been seized remember he's in for he was
in for tax evasion yeah this check was for seven thousand three hundred dollars now he also asked Scott to pick up a
trailer that John had lined up to live in well what do you think is going to happen here Captain bye bye money that's
right Scott cashed the check and he picked up the trailer as requested and then stole all of it John never heard
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garage.com cheers mates cheers now in what continued to be a mind-boggling series of ill-advised decisions the FBI
made its first documented payment to Scott Kimball this took place in May of 2003 they paid him 600 bucks again what
services he was rendering exactly are not clear it seems that he must have been well he was committing a bunch of
crimes so he's keeping them in business people around him are disappearing it I'm guessing captain that he was
manufacturing information stringing the gullible agents along right then an arrest warrant was issued
for Scott in the state of Washington for probation violations this is for failing
to report to his po well that might have been the straw captain that broke the camel's back so
to speak because it looks like ages left there's a lot of struggles mountain of straws
that may have been the agent may have finally wised up because he did revoke Scott's status as a paid informant at
this time and schlaf put in a request that the warrant be issued for Scott's arrest
and so Scott was arrested in June of 2003 in Denver for the violation of parole he was in charge while he was out
of watching over Jennifer Markham right so now that Scott is in custody the FBI wants to know where the hell is Jennifer
Markham right he tells the FBI that Jennifer died at the hands of Jason price the drug dealer he says Jason price
strangled her Scott said that he had even seen photos of the body saying that the photos depicted Jennifer tied up
with tape on her mouth this was bad news for the FBI they're informant failed to inform them that this woman
who he was supposed to watch for them a potential witness in a big drug case right a potential co-conspirator and a
murder plot was in danger not only in danger I guess but now he's saying she's dead she was murdered the FBI wanted to
know if they could trust Scott so they administered a polygraph exam and the statements that I have seen from
the FBI says that Scott Kimball managed to pass the polygraph test wow that's surprising yeah yeah so then
agent schlaf arranged for Scott to be released stating that Scott was a valuable asset
who may be able to help determine where Jennifer's Body is located now Not only was Scott released after
this arrest warrant was quashed he was reinstated as an official official FBI informant in
mid-2003 fool me once shame on you fool me five thousand times five thousand times
who who do we shame at this point everybody yeah everybody's shameful schlaf was completely snowed by Scott
obviously which is ironic because the investigation into Scott Kimball his time as an FBI informant and
his crimes that he committed or suspected of committing later would be called operation snowball because that
story that crime that case just kept getting bigger and bigger now after Scott told him that Jennifer Markham was
dead schlaff finally arranged for a search of her car remember we still have her vehicle yeah I remembered and and
how many people right now are going what the what right yeah it's it's one thing if a
criminal a con man a guy that's been doing this for years is able to maybe fool let's just say a naive young female
or an average Joe or inmate or an inmate or the parents of a missing person or maybe even a local uh po right maybe two
guys that sit in their garage and have a fake radio show right maybe the yeah that's what we have to go into next
is how he he conned us out well I I some money I know what you're getting at Captain real quick before we get into
that because I think that's that's very important that's key here and it's interesting it's it's head spinning but
what you see in the actual paperwork is that the FBI clearly must believe that something sinister is going on here
whether they believe it be the problem is they just don't believe that Scott Kimball is the one orchestrating any of
this because the paperwork remember we said they're going to finally search the vehicle now that they found Jennifer
markham's vehicle the affidavit in support of the search warrant request reads as follows the whereabouts of
Jennifer Markham cannot be determined and there is probable cause to believe that she is the victim of a homicide now
let's review really quickly here wait wait hold on here's the problem right yo you have this this female
she is a stripper so and and whoever's eyes FBI's eyes for whatever reason that's a strike against
her we also know that she's connected or has a boyfriend in jail that is a drug dealer
so we know he's a piece of [ __ ] right and so I think when you have these individuals
and most these individuals that Scott is given you a story he's saying well well this other
Criminal killed her or I believe he killed her and so I think as far the reason why they're probably
fooled is because everybody in the pot that they're looking at is essentially a criminal or has some ties to criminal
activities well no I think you're you're you're spot on with with most of that I don't
know I mean we could debate the stripper thing all day and night who knows but I
think what we're seeing here is exactly what you're kind of getting to is the FBI seems to obviously believe that
these other persons this this Jason price this uh the boyfriend that's still in prison right the Jennifer Markham
who's now missing they must believe that these three are all bigger criminals much more criminals than this guy Scott
Kimball who they have working for them and I think when they're pushed into a corner and they finally go all right
well let's give them a polygraph let's see if maybe he is telling us the truth we just have nothing to work off of
I get that he passed the polygraph and I get that that can really confuse you and
and get you turned around there and maybe you believe him again which obviously they did because they they
were going to handcuff him and then they decided not to that's just pretty and he's thinking and he's working again for
them I think where I really call this thing into question is when they find her vehicle
it's just it's even just Scott's actions right when they find her vehicle they want to know hey Scott where is this
person why are we finding her vehicle and his explanation is well she purchased a gun she went off to New York
City and she's going there to kill the guy remember I said when I was in prison that her and her boyfriend are working
on this murder plot right she's actually going there to kill him but it's like the FBI should be like Yo dude why
didn't you tell us that why did we have to come to you to find out that information you're supposed to be coming
to us you're supposed to be watching her now you're telling us we can't find her
because she went to New York City or to New York I just killed this guy and then
when he's arrested they go oh now we real this is just two months later right one two yeah he
they're going we really want to know where she is now and then then the story is the complete opposite oh Jason price
killed Jennifer Markham and so much so that I even saw pictures of the body and she was tied up and she had tape over
her mouth and again it's like why wouldn't you be okay dude why did why did we have to come to you to get this
information that is all you are in charge of is watching over this woman and now you fed us two stories one where
she's going to go kill somebody and you didn't let us know and two the other story is now she's been murdered and you
didn't let us know but I also wonder how much information is he feeding them that
is actually panning out I I think that's the problem is the when he passes that polygraph I I feel like
that's like uh wipes the Slate clean well like we like we always say if it was up to us
it you know we would advise somebody that if you're charged with a crime and they ask you to take a polygraph
there's nothing good that can come from it even if you pass it's not you can't use
that as evidence in a trial but in this case it's it's a lie detector administered by the FBI and he
passes so anytime that somebody that in a case that we've covered take like the JonBenet Ramsey
case for example they pass a polygraph three times makes me wonder about the how much I
should put any weight into these polygraph test or again does this just show how
completely psycho this individual is that he probably believes everything he's saying
so let's put Scott's professional Antics on hold for a few minutes here and let's
go back and revisit his personal life okay we have two women that were connected to Scott they are missing
that's Jennifer that's Leanne they went missing Scott now needs to fill this female void in
his life so enter Lori McLeod she's 39 years old a divorced single mother Lori met Scott at Denver's Lodge casino
sometime around February of 2003. Scott was Wheeling his mother in a wheelchair up to the five-card poker table Scott
was very close with his with his mom Barb he doted on her and this must have appealed to Lori so Scott told Laurie
when you know they start talking exchanging phone numbers he tells her hey I'm an FBI agent and he's divorced
with two kids they apparently hit it off right away which is a lot different than
an FBI informant yeah completely complete completely different um and Lori says that Scott loved the
outdoors he loved camping and hunting and that he was a romantic he I guess he called her a lot in the
beginning paid a lot of attention to her brought her flowers and he always seemed
to have plenty of cash now Lori's 19 year old daughter Casey seems like she likes Scott as well this
according to Lori the three of them eventually moved in together living together in a suburb of Denver for a few
months but Casey the daughter had some problems okay at one point in her life she was
addicted to meth this was in the past though at this point on our timeline she is clean
yeah it seems like she had a little hiccup in her life and it wasn't she wasn't she's definitely going down
the wrong path and hanging out with the wrong people but it's for a short period
of time yeah and by this point Scott is very intertwined in Casey's life and gave Lori his girlfriend the impression
that he and Casey were not only very close but he's also like helping her through these troubled times right
but in May of 2003 Casey slips up again this time she's arrested for felony theft and forgery after admitting to
buying more than three thousand four hundred dollars worth of merchandise this using a stolen credit card
so now we have to go to August of 2003. this is when Scott shows Lori a glass vial of what she would later describe as
a rock a white rock crystal substance he said that it looked to him like he says this he found this this is
Casey's uh possession and then it looked to him like Casey is using again so of course mother confronts daughter
Lori confronts Casey and threatens to call the police and Casey decides she's going to take off
yeah but she also said before she took off hey I this is these are not my drugs right I am clean I've been clean hey by
the way give me a drug test if you don't believe me give me a drug test so so then her mom doesn't believe
her and doesn't leave her to the point where she doesn't even offer to let her prove her innocence
Scott says he's going to like try to help the situation and his idea is he's going to get Casey a room at a motel 6.
so she has some place to stay but it doesn't have to be with Mom and boyfriend right maybe a little space is
needed between the two so not only is Casey going to be staying there but this is also so her boyfriend
can stay there as well after a few days of this Arrangement her boyfriend Casey's boyfriend shows up at Lori's
house saying that Casey is gone he does not know where she is adding that the last time she that he saw Casey
she was leaving for her job at Subway right Scott mom's boyfriend was the one that was
supposed to be giving her a ride to work that evening he said the boyfriend said that Scott
showed up to pick her up in his pickup truck with the trailer on the back this is the trailer he stole from the doctor
he met in prison right records show that Casey never went to work that day so she if we're to believe the boyfriend
and these work records she disappeared sometime between leaving for work and her 6 PM shift that day at
Subway Scott tells Lori this is a big mistake and that he did not drive or never was
going to drive Casey to work that day because he was already busy he was out in the
mountains hunting that day alone he told Lori that he had called his contacts at the FBI to assist in helping
to find Casey well yeah because I went to try to talk to the cops and say hey our daughter's missing and the cops say
well she's an adult you can't file Mr person report so then Scott you know ever the hero yeah hey I will I'll get
to the bottom of this I have some contacts let me get some information so on August 31st this is eight days
after Casey went missing Lori and Scott get married in Vegas and they honeymooned in the mountains now
note special note here these are the same this is the same area where he said he was hunting eight days earlier right
now when they got back home there was some indication that Casey had been there while they were gone or at least
as far as Scott was concerned Scott pointed out these Possible little indicators to Lori showing her a gold
necklace looped over a doorknob this was the necklace Casey was believed to be wearing when she was last seen Scott
also pointed out a makeup box that was moved to a different location so he they come back home and he's pointing out
look it appears that someone has been here and it was probably Casey judging by this uh necklace I believe he also
told her that he he got some eyewitness account uh that somebody saw Casey yeah so so he he's just fabricating all this
stuff well and the difficult thing here too for Lori then becomes the the Christmas at
Christmas time Casey never comes home she never contacts Mom never contacts her biological father
and her parents Lori and Lori's ex-husband Rob they were really reduced to the idea at
this point that look the drugs had taken their daughter again she's off on a bender she's using
meth again and hopefully she'll come home when she either hits rock bottom or needs money or or something
but these months will turn into years Casey simply may just be gone now after they were married
Scott and Laurie wanted to start a business they moved to they moved to Adams County
um to start Faith Farms a beef wholesale business in July of 2004 there was a terrible
accident on the farm Scott's 10 year old son from his marriage to Larissa hence was playing when a 200 pound metal grate
fell on top of him now instead of waiting for an ambulance Scott picks up the boy his name's Justin puts
him in his Jeep and then takes off hightailing it to the the uh Hospital somehow along the way
Justin the boy falls out of the vehicle now when they finally arrived at the hospital
Justin is in very he's in very bad shape he had emergency surgery on his brain and skull his skull was fractured and he
went into a coma that lasted weeks Justin's recovery was slow and so because of this accident and because of
the recovery process Scott's 60 year old Uncle his name's Terry moved from Alabama to help take care of the
recuperating boy Terry moved in with Scott and Lori and worked with Scott in this beef business
that they have started up but then just like that Captain Uncle Terry boom poof he's gone right
Lori came home one day this is at the end of August and she said that she found her sofa sitting outside covered
in vomit Scott said that the vomit was from Uncle Terry's dogs that the dogs were sick and
Scott told Laurie Uncle Terry hit it big he won the lottery and he and the dogs and a stripper named Ginger took all of
the money and they left for Mexico okay this is a weird story in itself but what is even more weird Lori says that
all of Terry's stuff was still left behind in the guest room where he was staying it's like him the dogs in this
woman that she never met took off from Mexico and all of his stuff was still still there and but hold on what makes
it not so weird is that Uncle Terry actually did come into some money somehow so he had some money he would he
actually carried some money in a briefcase around with him and would talk about the you know this this stack of
money that he came into so I don't think it's when you know that somebody came into money and then you go
hey guess what he he not only did he come into some money but he won a bunch of money he won the lottery he and now
he's Beyond Rich yeah you're sitting there going oh okay that's where that money came from right well in October of
2004 Scott ventured further into the beef business starting Rocky Mountain all-natural beef with his brother Brett
and his mom Barb this was in Lafayette Colorado where Scott grew up Scott bought seed cattle for the business from
a livestock exchange using a check for eleven thousand six hundred Seventeen dollars and fifty cents
this check was under the name Terry Kimball AKA Uncle Terry the check bounced like a basketball but Scott had
already taken the cattle back to his Ranch and of course he did not give the livestock exchange
his real name or his address the livestock exchange filed a complaint against Terry Kimball with the
Department of Agriculture two months later but as we already said Terry Kimball was in Mexico with his dogs and
Ginger [Music] foreign [Music] do we have any recommended reading this week why yes we do there Captain this
week we are recommending this is actually one that we recommended oh probably a year or so ago but I'm
reading it again for the second time and he was such a good guest on the show I thought we got to recommend this one
again it's called in the name of the children and FBI agents Relentless pursuit of the nation's worst predators
and that is by Jeffrey reineck who was on our show quite some time ago 30-year career with the FBI was kind enough to
come on our show check that book out you don't have to write that title down now
just go to truecrimegarage.com click on the recommended page you'll find that great title there as well as many others
and if you'd like to get your computer shirt limited edition computer shirt make sure
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week be good be kind and don't litter [Music] [Applause] [Music]

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Brief Summary

Scott Kimball, an FBI informant, manipulates women leading to disappearances and FBI negligence in investigating their cases.

Key points

The 5Ds of Dodgeball. Nick humorously reminds listeners of the dodgeball rules, emphasizing the importance of dodging.
Scott's Manipulative Charm. Scott Kimball uses his charm to sweep Leanne off her feet, leading to dangerous consequences.
Leanne's Mysterious Disappearance. Leanne checks out of a motel and is never seen alive again, raising alarm bells.
Scott's Deceptive Behavior. Scott's actions reveal a troubling pattern of manipulation and betrayal.
The FBI's Trust in Scott. Despite mounting evidence, the FBI continues to trust Scott as an informant.
Casey's Disappearance. Casey goes missing under suspicious circumstances, raising alarms about Scott's involvement.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

She wanted to know where her daughter was.

A mother's desperation to find her child.

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Tension

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