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[Music] [Music] crime [Music] princess doe was found July 15th 1982 in Blairstown New Jersey she was
given the name of Princess so she would not be just another Jane Doe next week will be 40 years since her
body was discovered and there are so many out there that still hope and pray that one day her headstone will bear her
real name after the gruesome discovery of her body and as time marched on in 1982 princess doe remained unclaimed in
the morg for 6 months the good people of Blairstown pulled together their financial
resources for a proper burial for the girl today she lies in Eternal rest in the
Cedar Ridge Cemetery steps away from where her half clothed body was found down a wooded embankment on that muggy
summer day to this day princess Doe's true identity Still Remains unknown her name forever imprinted in cyberspace on
the Warren County prosecutor's office cold cases website The Headstone placed at her current resting spot was paid for
by local donated funds The Headstone simply reads princess Dove missing from home dead
among strangers remembered by all born question mark found July 15 1982 this is drwr
[Music] garage there are several law enforcement agencies involved in the investigation
into figuring out who princess Doe is who princess doe was and who is the perpetrator of her murder I will read
directly from the prosecutors website so that we don't misconstrue any of the facts here and from the Warren County
prosecutor's website it states unidentified female known as Princess doe a deceased female was found on July
15th 1982 in waren County New Jersey her body was found behind Cedar Ridge Cemetery
on Highway 94 located in Blairstown the female had been deceased for less than a week prior to being
found she is 15 to 20 years old she was petite standing approximately 5'2 in tall and weighing 110 lb now keep in
mind those are both approximate numbers on the weight and the height her left earlobe was double pierced but no
earrings were found it is unknown if if her right ear was pierced or not the female had been treated by a dentist at
one point in her life as a few Dental fillings were observed in her teeth she was found wearing a red v-neck short
sleeve shirt and a long red wraparound skirt that had peacocks pictured around the lower hem border she was also
wearing a gold chain necklace that had white beads along the chain and an ornate cross pendant images of the skirt
and cross are featured on the prosecutor's website and we will put that on our social media the thing that
we need to point out here too Captain is that facial reconstruction was completed
by the national Center for missing and exploited children forensic artist and depicts what the female or princess doe
may have looked like in life so we have those sketches we have those artist renderings of what they believe princess
do may have looked like another interesting thing is that she had red nail polish on her right hand only and
that she had no known surgical scars or distinguished birth marks or tattoos well at least this is what we know of
her body we don't know if there were scars or any marks on her face because she was so badly beaten in the face I
want to cite a wonderful story that was put together by a Natasha Mullins on the
website medium.com and Natasha titled her article about the princess do case she
titled it the woman who lies dead among strangers it's a really good read I recommend that everybody check that out
on medium.com I'll read a portion of it here which gives a little more description on the discovery of the body
of the remains and this is titled a brutal discovery which it exactly that's exactly what it was and it reads Cedar
Ridge Cemetery is a small Cemetery nestled in the forest of Blairstown New Jersey off of Highway 94 Blairstown was
a farming Community home to just over 5,000 permanent residents in 1982 and was a quiet little town without
many disturbances on July 15th 1982 George crease a Gravedigger for Cedar Ridge Cemetery was walking through
a wooded area towards the rear of the cemetery when he came across a horrific Discovery lying face up on the bank of a
creek bed was the decomposing body of a young woman she was wearing a red t-shirt and a red peasant skirt was
folded across her legs her face had been bludgeon to the point that it was unrecognizable and a gold cross necklace
was Tangled in her hair Cree notified the police immediately and an investigation began no identifying
possessions were found on the body of the woman and because of how she was found the case was immediately
considered a homicide an autopsy concluded that she had died of blunt force trauma to her head but the weapon
use could not be determined she was found without undergarments but no evidence of sexual assault could be
confirmed because of the state of the decomposition so the killer unfortunately did did not leave any
collectible DNA behind at the crime scene there was no evidence of drugs in Jane Doe's system but the medical
examiner initially reported that there was alcohol in her system it was later discovered that decomposition had made
her blood ferment which made it impossible to determine if she was intoxicated at the time of her death
however it was clear that she wasn't incapacitated during the attack because there were defensive wounds to her arms
and hands she had fought back against whoever attacked her it was initially estimated that Jane Doe later named
princess doe had been in the graveyard for two weeks but later investigators have changed this number to just a few
days I guess the moist air around the creek likely sped up the decomposition and as well as the hot muggy days making
it appear as though she had been there for a longer period of time what we have stated here in this article Captain is
that July 11 July 11th is the approximate date of Princess Doe's death although it is uncertain as to what the
exact day is the other thing that complicates this thing of coming up with the time of death or the date of death
here for princess doe is the article points out that moist air around the creek the location of the cemetery where
she's found plus it's hot muggy days it's July this all kinds of speeds up the process the decomposition process so
while we know that that would speed it up it gets difficult to even determine when she was placed there MH so we don't
know how much of the decomposition was actually sped up in her situation I mean we could be talking about any number of
situations going on here it's a real mystery and and unfortunately there's not a whole lot of breadcrumbs to lead
us anywhere here in this case I mean we could be talking about think about what we spent
so much time talking about here in the garage recently the America's Highway serial killers some of these victims
were transported hundreds of miles if not a thousand miles away from where they were abducted we don't know where
she was killed but we do have investigators who have been on the record saying we believe she was killed
elsewhere and then eventually placed in the cemetery where she was found well because it was such a remote location
too we don't know if she was found within a day or so of being dumped there or a week or more right and so I I think
that I would be hesitant to put July 11 as the approximate date of death I think
that it's interesting that they give us one they provide us with one but I would
if that were my job I would not be wanting to put my stamp on that I think there's too many factors and variables
to consider when trying to come up with that that window and again I keep going back to our America Highway serial
killer episodes and thinking she's found right off of Highway 94 there's a chance that that's not a
coincidence that somebody drove this person drove this victim killed them elsewhere days before and then
transported them and and placed her there where she was ultimately found well the other problem in this case is
going to be because she is so badly beaten in the face that they're not able to figure out what her eye color would
be so another identifier that we just don't have the information for and weirdly
enough man we have a situation here where she's found in a cemetery and then later buried in the same Cemetery so the
the town's people of the good people of Blairstown New Jersey they pulled together their funds and they decided to
give her a proper burial with with a headstone but to me it's a little creepy she's being found in this cemetery and
then later buried there as well I'm guessing here captain that there I don't know what this Creek is like in this
location it's likely that it's not big enough or powerful enough for her to have been deposited by the creek you
know that she was dumped in a in a larger body of water or and somehow the water carried her here it doesn't seem
like any of the investigators believe that to be a scenario worth considering so I'm going to have to go off of the
fact that they've never mentioned that plus there would there should be more evidence of her being in a river or
being in water for a considerable amount of time before she's found in this location one item of concern to me and
this would be very helpful to our little armchair investigation here Captain our
little garage investigation if you will I would like to know from this George crease and I hope that I'm saying his
name correctly he's a Gravedigger a caretaker for this Cedar Ridge Cemetery he's the one that found her body on July
15th 1982 I would like to know from him if he could tell us when he believed the last
time he was in that exact location of the cemetery right because then we could probably narrow it down a little bit
better as to when she was placed there and maybe that's information that the medical examiner has and the
investigators have and they are taking that into consideration when they provide us with this date of approximate
death of July 11 and if you look at the Cedar Ridge Cemetery on a map an aerial view of the cemetery will show you that
the location where she is found is is rather on the fringes of the cemetery itself like I wouldn't even consider
that to be it's probably belongs to the cemetery but it's so close to the creek and in in the start of this wooded area
that I would like to know you know if George could recall one what days of the week is he there is he there by
appointment only it doesn't sound to me like this is a job that he's there Monday through Friday every week but
also taken to factor when were you in this location of the cemetery because her body's found in a spot where you
could be there you could be working you could be there visiting a past family member and not see it wouldn't be
obvious that there was a body there it was somewhat concealed to concealed from State Route 94 anyway and there's
several reconstruction images the one that's in color by the ncmec to me she looks like Kat Von D remember
that tattoo artist that had a show a tattoo show she I do not Kat Von D she also was famously uh dated Nikki 6 I
think she also dated um Jesse James so but but looks very similar to to this uh artist ring and
there are so many different agencies as we pointed out earlier that have been involved at times with this
investigation I've been told that the proper people to contact should you have any information would be the New Jersey
State Police but we also referenced the Warren County prosecutor's office and Nick Mech they've worked with the
national Center for missing and exploited children as well and then we have the do Network so there's a lot of
information on this case even though we don't know who she was or have very little clue as to who she could have
been but I do want to point out that depending on which Outlet you get your news from or your information from I
should say the information is a little different on each of these websites so if we're looking at princessd do.org
which is a very comprehensive right website it's it's substantial there's a lot of stuff going on there a lot of
good information I don't know when the last time it was updated it looks like it may have been a couple years since it
was last updated but on that website we get a little bit of different information that we want to point out
because the best chance of figuring out who she was would be to crowdsource this
thing and this is something that they've been trying to do since the 80s to crowdsource this to figure out who she
could have been and on the princess do.org site it says the victim was found with red nail polish on the right hand
only as the captain pointed out but here it says both ears were pierced where on
the waren County website it states that they could not determine this says both ears were pierced the left ear twice so
some some differing information here well the information I found is that they found two earrings in her left ear
and then they go on to State this seems to be pretty hardcore fact here uh and everybody seems to be agreeing on this
information no known surgical scars birth marks or tattoos were found on her person scars or marks on the head face
area would not be known due to the condition of the body it also goes on to state that the the front two teeth are
slightly darker than the other teeth dental records are available for comparison so that's good they have some
dental records which has come to help clear other potential persons that could be princess doe that they've determined
based off of dental records that the person is not princess do well another identifying factor is that this victim
has never given birth nor been pregnant so she wasn't pregnant at the time and she's never given birth before so this
is when they start trying to age her and that's they're putting her between you know 14 to 18 years old yeah that varies
Again by website I've seen 14 to 18 that seems to be the majority consensus but I've also seen 15 to 20 on
other websites I think just to play it safe let's say 14 to 20 here based off of everybody's speculation what's really
frustrating to me again is these images you can find a lot of these if you just Google search princess D online but to
me a lot of the images just look like completely different people so it kind of throws
you it'd be really hard to compare and contrast you know a photograph of somebody with these drawings well and
the other thing that we need to keep in mind and I want everybody to to remember
this at all times when you're when you're thinking of possible theories when we're going through some other
situations here trying to fill in the blank keep in mind no one has come forward to
identify her or to claim her that's a big part of this mystery and to me I think that that is what likely holds the
key the answer to this mystery but let's go through some of the timeline here and
this is based off of the timeline from Princess doe.org July 15th 1982 is when the unidentified body is found who she
would later be known as Princess Doe she's laid to rest 6 months later so January 22nd
1983 is when she is laid to rest in a grave not far from the location where her body was originally discovered at
the Cedar Ridge Cemetery now she's named princess Doe by the investigators and by
the good people of Blairstown New Jersey because they didn't want her to just be
another Jane Doe so this is a way to distinguish her from other Jane doees part of that being her young age you
know they believe that she could possibly be a child we said it earlier as young as 14 maybe as old as 20 right
but she was also somebody that was in good health and well taken care of or took care of herself leading up to her
death so this wasn't somebody that was malnourished or uh never been to the dentist or anything like that some
situations that we have covered in other cases and 1983 HBO airs a special about
unidentified human remains and features the princess doe case this is also the same year when Princess do becomes the
first unidentified person case entered into the ncic computer database by the FBI the next month in July of 83 is when
we have the unveiling of a lifelike bust of Princess doe based off of the inter ations of the remains so as the captain
pointed out over the years we will have different sketches different computer composits of the victim and also we have
this lifelike bust that is put together right now in 1985 something really interesting
happens in this case and and something that that really I think still we sit here and we're we're 40 years later
we're one week from being 40 years to the date of when Princess do was found but this is something that
also needs cleared up even though it took place in 1985 so starting in 1985 investigators in New Jersey became
convinced that princess doe was Diane die a teenager who went missing from San Jose California in
1979 so Diane Dy ran away from home there were problems at home and she decided to take off now they are
believing that 3 years later she's found unidentified Beat to Death blooded to death in New Jersey and she could be
princess doe now Diane d was 13 at the time of her disappearance so she would have fallen kind of perfectly into that
age range and the height and weight range of Princess doe so this was a bit of a debate right we had the D family
that says no we don't believe that that princess doe is our missing little girl we believe that she's probably still
alive and well and just doesn't want to come home we don't believe or have any reason to suspect that she made it all
the way to New Jersey but see then you have to argue what we were just talking about
earlier this is right next to Highway 94 right is it a possibility that she was killed hundreds of miles away that she
didn't make her own way to New Jersey the person responsible for her murder made her way to New Jersey my big issue
with this whole concept though is that Diane D's family doesn't believe that princess doe is her yes and there was as
said a lot of debate there was not just debate between the die family and law enforcement there was debate
within law enforcement itself well law enforcement made an announcement public publicly I mean I I think that's very
irresponsible well right and we should point out that that was one person decided to do that that kind of went off
on their own yeah one dumbass without permission without proper evidence without anything kind of sealing the
deal here because what we would later learn in 2003 they were able to make a DNA
comparison from the die family to princess doe and it was determined that the two were completely unrelated right
so no chance that Diane Dy is Princess doe what what boggles my mind is that that was left
open-ended for so long from 1985 to 2003 before they could determine that it was in fact not Dian
die and as you stated Captain some someone in law enforcement says publicly that princess doe was Diane
die it still remains to this day that there are a lot of people out here and out there that once knew of this case
and believed that at least the identity portion of it is solved and still believe that princess doe is or was
Diane d and we're here to tell you that is not the case at all this these are scientific facts that prove that D and
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Dian die angle of this investigation let's jump back in time two years prior to 1983 this is when police released photos
of the clothing that princess doe was wearing at the time of her death uh that she was found still wearing when her
body was discovered this is because they believe that the clothing was somewhat unique and hoping that somebody would
recognize the clothing and then come forward with information about who princess doe could have been now we
should also point out that initially and this makes sense anybody that's reviewed
any murder case will know that initially the Blairstown police they believed that
it was going to be a local girl when she was first discovered but then very quickly after a couple of days of nobody
coming forward to identify her now they start going well we're going to have to expand our our thoughts and
considerations here on who this could be it could be somebody from a nearby Town
nearby City or even out of state I wish that they would have I understand holding on to this information I
understand not wanting to release it until you feel like you have to but I also look on these things with hindsight
and I say I think that you waited too long you know we we do in this case have people coming forward saying oh that
clothing well that that reminds me of something here's some information for you but I'm wondering what kind of
information and how much better could the information have been had You released these photographs earlier you
know people forget stuff things get lost in people's memories things get lost in
time but they do have people that come forward after they release the photos of this clothing that princess do was
wearing one of the witnesses claimed that she had seen a woman the woman princess doe at a store near the
cemetery right another set of witnesses confirm this saying that they had seen a
woman at a grocery store two days before the murder so I'm guessing this is before July 11th 1982
they're saying that she was wearing her hair in a bun at the time and reportedly
had a stoic expression like him GK unfortunately none of these Witnesses said that they spoke with the woman but
they did they were all certain that it was Princess doe that they had seen based off of this unique clothing now
another witness revealed that she had seen very similar clothing to what Jane Doe princess doe was wearing in a
clothing sore on Long Island the witness was certain that her clothing had been bought in Long Island
and so police began investigating disappearances in that area they also checked school records for a girl
matching the princess Doe's description but no further leads were found there were some eyewitnesses that believe that
princess doe was working at a motel yes one of these Witnesses state that this was a motel near Blairstown New Jersey
this witness said that they actually spoke to the woman and said that they were told by her that she was a runaway
from Florida and that her father was a dentist and that she was looking for work and that she's also anti-dentite
well and then we have others that come forward from various Motel over in New York also in New Jersey and in
Maryland that are coming forward saying that we think that we saw her working at
motel over over there if in fact this was Princess doe it sounds to me Captain like she must have been living under
some different aliases at the time because this information while we only have bits and pieces of it I'm sure law
enforcement have a significant amount more and they've not been able to tie this information to an identification of
Princess doe yeah we don't know for sure if it was a hoel motel Holiday Yen well
so it wasn't like there was no press or nobody talking about this case but it had its es and flows but we're going to
have some significant break or at least some significant information in this case 17 years later in
1999 yeah so this is when we have an arrest that that would seemingly be unrelated to our case and the arrest is
of a Donna kren law and so she is arrested for fraud she's committing fraud and she's a bit of a career
criminal well her husband Arthur who's a few years older than her is a bit of a career criminal as well now from my
understanding here Captain Donna was picked up in California I believe but was originally from New Jersey or from
the New Jersey area and she's stating that they had committed some crimes in that area before she left and was
committing fraud in California and they were running I say they her and her husband according to
Donna were running a sex trafficking operation or a sex ring where they had working girls sex
workers that were either employed by them or forced into working for them it's a little
unclear and I think you'll understand why once we start going through some of this
information but Donna is telling law enforcement that she believes that her husband is the one that killed princess
doe that was responsible for her murder stating that he was a [ __ ] princess at
the time of her arrest she's stating that the couple was angered when the woman now known as Princess doe refused
to work for them as a prostitute and she said that her husband left with the girl and didn't come back
with her now why would she suspect that he had killed her well because she had witnessed or been a part of
her husband Arthur killing two other girls and now these other victims one is known as
Linda but again that's Linda with quotation marks so they don't know that Linda was her actual first name and
their other victim is believed to be suffk County Jane do so let's point out something here Captain that's rather
obvious first off we have this couple that confesses first the wife confesses and then the husband
confesses to being the the perpetrator of the murder of Princess doe this is going to be highly debated
amongst law enforcement what is in their favor for them telling the truth in this situation
would be that their other victims still remain unidentified they were unidentified at the time that they were
found right and the other victim share similar injuries that we have with Princess do so that is in their favor of
them telling the truth however we have investigators who are on the record that state that they don't believe that the
kren laws killed princess doe based off of the confession that they received it it doesn't align with the facts of the
case the facts that they know about the case the other thing too that I want to point out here as well is if our
princess doe was killed by a stranger or somebody that wanted to harm her what I
would suspect I'm not saying it would have to happen or be 100% but I would suspect that somebody that knew her that
loved her or even once knew her or once loved her would have come forward by now
and said hey I think that that is my missing daughter or my missing niece or my missing right sister anybody like
that I think would have come forward and because we have no one coming forward to
claim princess do as being somebody to me where I think the suspicion lies is that very likely somebody that was very
close to her is responsible for her murder and we've seen this with some other cases that we've reviewed here in
the garage where you get somebody that's estranged from their family and they're
killed by a husband or a boyfriend or a fiance right and placed out somewhere if
they're not identified that these family members aren't coming forward she may have already been estranged from her
family maybe even a runaway yeah or running from an abusive situation but we've reviewed plenty of cases where a
husband boyfriend or fiance who lives states away from the victim's family will even contact the victim's family at
some point maybe months later and say yeah yeah she uh she took off she started running around on me she took
off last time I I was aware she was in Maryland or she was in Michigan and they start throwing out these different
states of where this person could be now I am in agreeance with the speculation against the Crim laws Arthur and Donna
because the the injuries to their other victims are damn near spoton to what we have
with Princess doe but again we have investigators saying that they don't know the facts of the case their
confessions don't align with the facts of the case their confessions only align with the publicly known knowledge the
publicly known information that has been released in her case and keep in mind too I think with Princess do we're
probably talking about the likelihood of some kind of sexual assault is I would put it on the high probability
end of the spectrum here of our investigation based off of the fact that she's not found with any undergarments
on her person even though they could not determine that because of the decomposition I think that that is
probably the case and probably the situation here but Again difficult thing here is because some people confess to
crimes they don't commit and they have other victims that they don't have the identities for so it's possible that
this guy did kill somebody in a cemetery it's just not princess do it's possible
the kren law is killed more than just the two people that they are Donna KRW is out last time I checked she
was still she's out on the street she's a free woman at this point but the Arthur kren law remains in prison to
this day I'm guessing based off of the two murders that he's locked up for that it's very likely that he has committed
more murders and I think where we probably have some disconnect could be that donin law the wife could be
confusing Prince do with another woman who her husband killed I think with his confession the problem becomes you know
did he kill some other girl somewhere in a cemetery again the investigators are stating that they do not believe that
she was killed in the cemetery they believe she was killed elsewhere in the place there and then on top of that we
have him saying that I killed her and and placed her in that Blairstown Cemetery so it would be difficult to
believe that that he's confusing one victim with another here when we have this specificity of his statements of
that Blairstown Cemetery interestingly enough it's believed that it was the potential Fame that they might have been
seeking with being connected to the princess doe case that we already have a situation where they've murdered where
he's going to be locked up for at least two homicides and their homicides are somewhat similar to what they've read
coming out of New Jersey and that is if he's going to be locked up for two anyway he might as well get some Fame
and notoriety from being connected to what is a famous victim with this princess doe yeah it's sad when these
[ __ ] bags will confess to a crime that they might have had nothing to do with just so it's it's almost like they're
getting a trophy and look at me look at me give me attention now now some of the
identifiers or possible identifiers on princess de are really interesting to me I'm wondering here like with the
fingernail polish on one hand but not on the other hand right is this something that was deliberate you know I've heard
it suggested that well maybe maybe the killer put nail polish on one hand for whatever weird reason or maybe she
removed nail polish but I know several women that will purposely wear nail polish that doesn't match you know maybe
the the toenails are done different than the fingernails or they'll do multiple colors on different fingernails and so I
wonder if it was just simply a style thing for this young woman that she preferred to paint only one hand if that
was something that she commonly did that would be a little unique that would be a
way to potentially identify her if anybody was friends with with a girl at one time that that was known to have
done that only paint one hand well we know the location that she was found I think this is definitely a case that if
the True Crime Community got behind and and shared her picture enough that maybe
we could could get somebody to come forward and say that that was my sister or that was my cousin or or or something
well and we talk about possible identifiers and I know we've ruled out the Diane die connection here but but
what's weird to me man if you look at the Dian die picture and one of the pictures that was generated by Nick Mech
the national Center for missing and exploited children of Princess doe they're eerily similar they're eily
similar so I can see why somebody started to put that together but again we know that to be not the case but you
think with the advancements and technology for DNA that we'd be able to at least link this princess do back to a
family right and you wonder if that's how we're going to end up solving this thing because again I really think that
I think that her not being all right she's not connected to any missing person if she was we would
be having a whole different conversation there is a chance that whoever she was she was actually
reported to be missing but on the flip side of that coin there's also the possib
that she's never been reported missing to anyone and therefore if that ends up being the case I would have to strongly
suspect the person closest to her that being a father a mother a brother a a husband a boyfriend a fiance fancy the
person closest to her is probably responsible for I agree for her murder would be my
belief now there is some interesting things here though still and some potential leads with this isotope
testing and we've seen this in some other cases in the barrel dough cases that we've talked about where they do
testing on the remains and based off of chemicals and other sorts of things they
can determine or take an educated guess as to where the person may have lived for an extended period of time right and
when they do the isotope testing on princess doe what they come up with is that she likely lived for a considerable
amount of time in the state of Arizona so that information that they come up with actually puts her in multiple
States but with them saying that the the strongly most suspected state would be that she lived for an extended period of
time in Arizona the other thing though too is I don't think we can discount these possible sightings of her living
in the area right we have mult multiple witnesses that come forward after seeing
the clothing saying that oh I spoke with a a young woman that worked at a motel that worked in the New Jersey area New
York area Ocean City is strongly mentioned so is Long Island and those locations are really interesting to me
too for several reasons one part of the kren Law's confession states that they meet this
woman that wanted some work and so they're going to try to make her a sex worker and she threatens to rat them out
to police and that is what pissed off Arthur to the point that he kills this young woman the thing the thing that's
interesting to me about the kren law confession though is that it does coincide with some of these possible
eyewitnesses who said that they saw and spoke with somebody leading up to the discovery of Princess doe that they may
have spoke to princess doe so that that story kind of goes along with it now the
strong suspicions to this day Captain are that the kren laws were not involved in Princess Doe's murder right that
princess doe likely lived for a considerable amount of time in the state of Arizona may have been a runaway from
the state of Florida and her father may have been a dentist all based off of these eyewitness statements and some
information that they've collected over the years but we have law enforcement who are on record saying we don't
believe the kren Law's confession however we believe and we have reason to believe that princess doe may have lived
or worked on Long Island in New York which does go along with part of kren Law's confession but again law
enforcement stating everything in kren law's confession is based off of public knowledge public information
stuff they could have read in the newspapers what is weird to me here Captain is 1982 you're weird to me still
unidentified right is this I like the idea of linking this to somebody else right like someone like
kren law who's killed other people in similar Fashions and disposed of the bodies in similar
manners I like connecting it to somebody else I also I I cannot shake the idea that it could a trucker who was
traveling the region or even cross country and that is the reason why we have we've got a disconnect between
linking victim to who she actually was the unidentified remains to the missing person I think that's a strong
possibility the other thing that keeps nagging at me your mother is the Long Island serial killer Yes we have Long
Island serial killer victims that are still unidentified to this day the way that the remains were found in the Long
Island case would suggest that they were killed these victims were killed in a a manner other
than bludgeon to death from everything I read that would be the suspicion I don't
think they've come right out and said how exactly how these victims were killed but I find it interesting that
this happens in 82 we still have some unidentified persons in the Lisk case the Long Island serial killer case
Blairstown New Jersey not terribly far away they believe that there's a connection to Long Island or to Ocean
City I think Ocean City is in Maryland so in that general area there are people that have also suggested that maybe this
might be one of Joel rifkin's earlier kills that could make some sense Joel riffkin is a weird one for me because he
doesn't seem to he he will confess to some things but I also believe that that he's holding a lot back I think there's
other people that he has killed and has held back that information and and chose
not to confess to an extra murder or two than what we know him to be responsible
for well it'll makes sense if this victim is as young as 14 right and he's not willing to confess to certain things
so uh do we have a situation where she's found in New Jersey and he doesn't want
to be prosecuted or charged by a different jurisdiction than his other crimes took place
I have this I'm not saying that that I think that it's connected but I have this nagging sneaky sneaking suspicion
that that Long Island serial killer someone some type of serial killer that was active in this general area in this
region you said region at one point or another is responsible for this princess do it could be could be their first
kill or could be one of their earlier kills that's not been connected the other thought too is that and this is a
strong theory in this case is that whoever is responsible for this is already locked up for another crime
potentially another murder yeah the problem with riffkin too is and and again he could have more more
victims but it seems like he didn't start killing until the late 80s and obviously princess doe is a early 80s
victim on the princess doe website the website dedicated to her case and to helping determine her
identity they got a couple of interesting pages on there Captain one is a theories page and one is a
questions and answers page and I'm not going to go through everything on both of those pages because we've kind of
discussed some of those just in in our general discussion here today but some of the unsubstantiated
prevailing theories in this case are again that she's a a possible runaway that was known to have worked in Ocean
City Maryland again this is inconclusive but it's a it's a a theory that remains
strong to this day at least amongst some and there are other theories that she was uh run away from Florida estranged
from her family again this is based off of those eyewitness statements that came
forward in 1983 there is OB unsubstantiated claims that maybe she was a local sex worker
that worked at the truck stop uh or at local businesses again not confirmed just a theory this one seems
interesting to me though I I tend to believe that she's probably not does not have deep roots in this general area or
any general area nearby where she was eventually found I think if that were the case that we probably wouldn't be
sitting here almost 40 years later still wondering about the identity of our victim and one of the questions
on the website is who is currently handling this investigation and is it still active answer that they provide
again this would be from I believe 2017 so we're going a little little bit back here but according to the information
that they have on their site Captain it says the Warren County prosecutor's office is currently handling this case
and yes the case is active and being investigated and pursued now that would still coincide with the information that
we found on the Warren County prosecutor's office website and then a great question that is asked on this
case what forensic evidence is available and the answer that they provide is hair
fingernails fingerprints DNA and teeth have all been collected into evidence the DNA has been entered into the
Nationwide codus database one of the other questions that's interesting to me here captain and I I referenced earlier
that maybe this could be tied to a person who has killed other female victims is the question that says does
the princess do case have anything to do with the tiger lady question mark so the
answer is the tiger lady a is a woman who is unidentified a bangal tattoo was found
on her calf uh so that is how she gets this name of the nickname of tiger lady she
was found nearby uh I guess this is Nolton Township in 1991 now law enforcement has stated that
they do not believe that the cases are related but there is this strong strong suspicion because you have these two
victims yes found mind you 9 years apart but relatively close to one another in the same county of Warren County New
Jersey and we have two of them who are still unidentified I think it's pretty simple
to me again if we could do some DNA testing and and connect her to a family because the other problem too
is the person that could identify her is possibly also the person responsible for
her death and that's why they haven't came came forward to identify her and that is my strong belief my my strong
suspicion there and I think you're exactly right here Captain let's get some DNA testing some familial DNA uh
genealogy work detective work going on this look there's there's several agencies out there there's several of
these Labs out there that that can do all of this work inhouse from start to finish for you and we already referenced
that this case is well known you know it's it's a it it was known Nationwide HBO covered it uh America's Most Wanted
cover it several outlets have covered it over the years and if you want to get your name in the papers for solving a
big case and and pointing out that hey this is a service and a technology that we offer that we can sell to people this
is a great way to get your name out there and I'm hoping that there are these Labs that are coming forward and
offering their services to the great state of New Jersey now from the Warren County prosecutor's office website and I
know that this is a problem in a lot of counties we talked about this in our Sam
little case we talked about it in our America's Highway serial killer cases that we
covered four-part series but for Warren County they seem to have a bit of a problem with unidentified remains we
know that they have princess doe who was found July 15th 1982 in Warren County New Jersey found behind the Cedar Ridge
Cemetery on Highway 94 located in Blairstown New Jersey we also reference tiger lady who was recently identified
and this is interesting too here Captain because this is a a laboratory that's more than capable of coming up with some
answers in our princess do case so in July of 2021 bod Laboratories in Virginia was able to locate family
members of the deceased victim known as tiger lady uh using genealogy the deceased female was positively
identified as Wendy Lise Baker Wendy Baker traveled through multiple States prior to being found in the gravel
parking lot area along Route 94 in Nolton Township waren County I would like to know what states she was known
to have been traveling through because I I get it that it's 9 years later but is
that the problem that we have in identifying princess doe was she from another state could she be from one of
the states that Wendy Baker was known to have traveled through and then in 2017 we had some human remains that were
discovered by law enforcement as well this was freaky stuff here man the police responded to a call that somebody had
discovered a shoe that still had a foot in it so this was a woman's size seven reebox sneaker
that contained a grayc colored crew sock and exposed lower leg bones was recovered by the
uh sorry recovered May 2007 and again there's additional information on the Warren County prosecutor's
website but what can we do other than shine some light on this case here in the garage what what what we can do is
share these images with people on social media asking for help there there'll be
images on our website at true garage.com and also hopefully we can put some pressure on law enforcement to do
these tests to identify this victim and hopefully bod or somebody like bod Technologies bod Laboratories will reach
out to Warren County and offer their services free of charge and the captain's exactly right we need to we
need to share we need to view and share the images of Princess doe but what's also very important is that we view
share and review and share the information in princess Doe's case because again because of how badly this
victim was beaten we're they're kind of guessing as to what she looked like so that might be part of the problem too
just based off of off of looking at our victim or what she may have looked like nobody's connected any dots I think that
the information of the items the clothing that was found on her and where she was found the time frame all of that
is just as important if not might be more important in this case than the actual composite sketches of Princess
doe now if anybody does have any information out there again it's Warren County who is actively pursuing this
case so you're going to want to get in touch with the Warren County prosecutor's office and their phone
number is 998475 6275 or you can email at cold case at C.W warren. nj. us thank you so much for joining us here
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On July 15th, 1982 a grave digger at the Cedar Ridge Cemetery in Blairstown New Jersey made a gruesome discovery. On the very edge of the grounds near highway 94 in a wooded area near a creek he found the body of a young female. She had been bludgeoned to death and left there for an indeterminate amount of time. The good people of local law enforcement and the people of Blairstown named her “Princess Doe.” Unfortunately we are coming up on forty years since she was killed and we still do not know the true identity of Princess Doe. This topic led us to many other topics while exploring the theories surrounding the mystery of Princess Doe. Those topics include but were not limited to - The crimes of Arthur and Donna Kinlaw, The “Tiger Lady” who’s remains were found in 1991 along highway 94, The Long Island Serial Killer and Joel Rifkin. For more info go to PrincessDoe.org (http://princessdoe.org/)

If you have any information please help by contacting the Warren County Prosecutor’s Office. Call 908-475-6275 or email - Coldcase@co.warren.nj.us

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the unsolved murder of Princess Doe and ongoing efforts to identify her.

Key points

Community Support for Princess Doe. Local residents pooled resources for a proper burial six months after her discovery.
The Mystery of Princess Doe. Princess Doe was found in 1982, and her true identity remains a mystery to this day.
Facial Reconstruction Efforts. Facial reconstruction was completed to depict what Princess Doe may have looked like in life.
A Gruesome Discovery. The body of Princess Doe was discovered in a cemetery, leading to a homicide investigation.
The Identity Debate. The investigation into Princess Doe's identity sparked significant debate, especially regarding Diane Dy's family.
Confessions and Controversy. Donna Krenlaw claims her husband killed Princess Doe, but investigators doubt their confessions.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

To this day, Princess Doe's true identity still remains unknown.

Discussion of Princess Doe's identity

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