Off The Record /// Mollie Tibbetts Update | Forensic Files

[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] old FY Malik passed away August 21st he lived to be an old
man though right like was he was he in his' 80s I don't know in the in the ' 80s he
looked like he was in his 80s he he's one of those guys that like I think when he was probably born like when he was 20
he became 80 yeah yeah he he looked old when we like you said at the time of that case of the boys on the tracks case
yeah but we had a lot of fun with FY Malik and uh the filling vomi shirts I I put as a 20% off 19 99 I just looked so
he died FY Malik died uh Tuesday the 21st at the age of 85 is what this says mhm um and it sounds like he 85 years
too long sounds like he was in clear waterer Florida yeah if you look more Bringing
Down the class the class level of uh Clear Water Florida well you know how that you know when he was in Arkansas
how they move they ended up moving him uh to a different apartment and then from there he took a job somewhere and I
was reading that there I think he was up to making $165,000 a year and he clearly a lot of
cheda my friend and he clearly he's either he's either corrupt as hell or or dumb as hell and just doesn't know how
to perform his job I mean give me $65,000 a year and I'll do his job so okay so FY mik has passed away we we
have FY Malik t-shirts yeah I marked them down to 1999 here's the problem with selling
T-shirts with FY Malik on on the T-shirt because not only was he old looking in the80s he was also very ugly in the 80s
an ugly man yeah but he uh but they're they're NICE T-Shirts I love and I love the the phrase feeling FY it just I mean
I just still laugh about it to to this day all right let's well let's get a little serious cuz we got a lot of
updates on uh the Molly Tippets case that we should get to so my first thoughts here
Captain are a couple things I did talk to a lot of people last week um when the shows came out on Tuesday Wednesday
Thursday you know talking to a lot of people people reached out to me a lot of great feedback people love that we were
trying to cover something as it was happening some people thought maybe we rushed it a bit I did
have a couple people that said hey you should have just waited until the press conference and told us what really
happened we would have waited for the episode and my response to that is unfortunately that wasn't an option we
didn't have the choice of doing that and we were actually doing something last week for the first time it was new for
us as many shows as we've done to do something that that news is breaking as we are recording the episode MH and I
think there was some confusion because our goal was to just talk about our disappearance on the way to the garage I
get a text message saying that they found Molly and so that that changed things so
I think there were some listeners that just thought because there was breaking news in the morning that we just jumped
on the case no and that was not the case we're going to try to shine light on her
disappearance and maybe you know help get some closure but then it happened all that day yeah we were going to cover
it anyway we were going to talk specifically about what was known about The Disappearance right what some of the
theories were on the internet and and some of the rumors coming out of Brooklyn Iowa that was our intent and it
takes me depending on traffic 45 minutes to maybe slightly over an hour to meet up with you in the garage on some days
and what happened last week was before I left my house I actually Googled Molly Tibbits just to see that by chance were
there was there some kind of update because they were looking and I'll tell you what man you can I cannot say enough
about the investigation and the investigators that that were involved in that they worked their asses off and
they didn't quit they weren't going to quit until till they found some answers and so because of that I hit the old
Google machine right before I left my house and I said hey you know was there any updates no nothing at that time I
drive here and I can't remember I wasn't listening to the radio so they may have
made an announcement on the radio but whatever I was listening to probably sports or something like that was not
going to have an update so I I I pull up you're already at the garage I get out of my car and you go they found her and
I you know what to be honest with you I thought you were just [ __ ] with me because yeah cuz I make jokes like that
all the time well no no not that it would be a bad joke just that it you know anytime so when we select a case
Okay sometimes we select them weeks in advance sometimes we select them for next week and with Molly's case it was
in the news we selected it for the next week and we also were getting hundreds of emails saying you know bring
attention to this case please it would have been straight up rude to the listeners had we not covered it because
we received so many so just an outpour of of people wanting to know more about the case and to to keep it on everyone's
mind and so when we started uh when we when we decided we were going to cover it one thing that we
kind of chatted about as we would talk about the case throughout the week was you know this could they could find her
at any moment right there could be breaking news on this at any moment we just need to be aware of that we need to
constantly remind ourselves to check and check and check and check and that's why
what I mean is that I thought you were messing with me I thought like you know cuz that's where our last conversation
was and I pull up and the the reason too I had just checked before I left my house you're like right they found her
and I'm like really when I gave you one of those little kind of little attitude really when right and and the tough
thing here too is there was a lot of I believe her father is a you know very intelligent man um and he had a gut
feeling that that she was alive and that somebody took her and I kept thinking well it maybe it's going to be a good
scenario where where they do find her within that time frame of us researching the case but that she's alive um and and
then when we get the sad news that she's uh found dead you know it just kind of changed everything for our show and we
just try to do the best we can and again one the reasons why we can't wait is we
have a schedule that we uh committed to and that's how we're able to have advertisers and they're able to fund the
show so people can listen for free so well essentially so just so everybody understands this most simple way to
break this down is we were punting we weren't drawing up plays and and calling them we were we were punting we were
adapting to a situation that was um it was a tough one to be in and and not because of the podcast but because of
we're getting breaking news and it's not news that we want to hear it's sad news
well let's get to what we do know now okay so there was an individual that was arrested okay and we learned this from
the press conference and the thing that's so interesting to me here Captain two things that I saw in this
investigation that you don't see in every single investigation one the police worked incredibly hard on this
and it seemed like they were all one front you know it was all one group working in unison together they were
going to get this thing and solve this thing as soon as possible the other thing that was interesting we talked
about the community a community of only 1,400 people first thing I noticed in the press conference was how many times
they said they being law enforcement said this community helped us solve this case this community was involved in this
investigation everybody that knew anything or thought anything thought they saw anything they
were coming forward and then there was also anybody that was coming forward that had any video footage was coming
forward and submitting that video footage or any store that they asked for video footage they were receiving that
with no fight back at all where sometimes people will say you know we don't have to give you our surveillance
footage until you get a warrant for it and when we were trying to put together the episodes um you heard us there we we
took a break because we thought we had the name of the individual that was arrested it turns out that that man was
not arrested as far as I know no and he actually um possibly was one of the guys
that helped get video footage right he may have had some kind of you know we talk about different uh security systems
here on our program from time to time you can have these that are set up to have video surveillance mhm and he may
have had just that and offering that up and that may be where his name came from
yeah and we got that we were recording live and uh a very credible Source um that I talk about a lot on the show uh
my buddy Morgan was giving us the information he was the individual that text me uh earlier on my way to the
garage saying that they they found her so he he is a very credible source and he was digging for information thought
that was a name and it was misreported and in the report he was reading to me mhm so that's how we got the name and
you want to talk about feeling like a dicknose I mean I'm going to feel like a dicknose forever for um you know having
this individual associated with that he was arrested for her murder well nobody deserves that and and I uh deest
apologies to him cuz um like we said we we were just going off the fly yeah and and and you know Morgan who was trying
to help us out um I love that guy too man because he he has apologized a thousand times for hey hey you know and
it's like it was great to it was great to know that he was passionate about the case too because he wasn't just going oh
well it happened you know he he didn't wasn't just kind of brushing it off he was over apologetic and well he's super
passionate about the True Crime Community True Crime garage True Crime listeners so hopefully we get him on the
show I mean he's been begging to be on a we'll consider it on a off the Record show he's been begging for it if we if
we ever sell out a FY Malik shirts then that will be next on our list Morgan be on the show so the man that was actually
arrested in this case is 24-year-old Christian Riviera and um he is a illegal immigrant
living in the Brooklyn Iowa area he had lived there we're getting a little bit of sketchy news and and what I mean by
that is because he was living and working there illegally let's say off the books well he was actually on the
books so where he worked I actually believe that he worked at the pig farm um and he was a farmer he he worked farm
land I I don't know for certain that it was the yeah but remember how the pig farm became not a pig farm mhm uh the
reports that I've seen um said that it's part of that group okay so that's why um
they would find some stuff you know the red shirt maybe it was hers maybe it wasn't but they found some stuff in that
area and he gave false information to that employer right so but again I think these employers need to do a little bit
better of a job of researching that information that they're getting I'm not going to pretend to have complete
understanding of how that works but what from what I've read is that there's something called an e verification
process right and supposedly the information he provided to them to the employer he passed all of that e
verification process here be here's where the problem becomes so you pass the E verification whatever right and
then they give you a check and then you have that same information that you gave
the employer the illegal immigrate has that same information that they gave the employer to get the job illegally then
they go get a bank account and and so we're we're talking about checks and balances and checks and
balances that people didn't do right I've had several times where people have come into me and they go well here's my
ID and here's my check mhm now the the name and everything matches but the picture doesn't match and maybe he had a
fake ID with his picture on it who knows but they have to do a better job of checking um checks and balances and if
that didn't happen I mean if that happened correctly then these illegal immigrants wouldn't have a chance to
have a job and and maybe they wouldn't be here illegally so Christian Riviera the guy that's been arrested and charged
with first-degree murder charged with with the first-degree murder of Molly Tibbits my understanding Captain is that
he was not using false information or fake information to um to have that job he was using someone's actual Legal
Information that's yeah he he just took somebody else's information that's why I'm saying
did the picture on his ID match him MH because the people at the bank should have known that right you know so people
can talk about building a wall and and Border Patrol and all that crap but there's stuff that people can do within
their Community you know to alleviate some of this issue right and so my understanding is that he actually LED
them to her body and this being what what led them to him was surveillance footage yeah that they had some kind of
footage from somebody we don't know who uh which shows a dark colored Chevy Malibu in the area where she was jogging
where she was running old shitty Malibu and so somehow this has not been released but this is me kind of guessing
here is that they somehow linked that vehicle to him well the other report too or some speculation is that the vid the
video actually shows that he was following her in a car trying to talk with her through the
window and when that wasn't working he actually stopped the car and got out and if that was you know that could be on
the footage as well they're not going to release any of that information not until the trial well and his defense uh
attorney already submitted a gag order okay because at the press conference they said a lot right you know a lot
more than they normally say so it's possible that he could have been following her in the car got out of the
car which he did he that's what he confessed to uh but that possibly could be on video footage and the words he
uses is that he ran along he he ran after her and then ran alongside her which sorry but that's called chasing he
was chasing her or stalking yeah and at some point she says hey man and and I'm going to call the police you know get
away from me I'm calling the police and this is when he says he flipped out he got angry and next thing he knows he he
blacks out he claims that that he has when he get angry that he blacks out again claims this he states that the
next thing that he knows he's driving and he sees a white earbud on his lap to which then he goes I think she might be
in the trunk of my car well he finds her in the trunk of his car and she her head
is blooded and she's she's passed away at this point to which he then takes her to a country road to a um to a cornfield
and my understanding Captain is this cornfield is somewhat near the the former pig farm that we've discussed
several times and but again I think that's why I believe the report that says that he worked in some kind of
conjunction with that farm well and and so he would have known that area and if he left her there with the Fitbit or
with her phone and either were on for any period of time that might be why they were searching in that area right
and the thing we have to understand here is a lot of times especially when these
devices um when they lose power when they power down you're you might only get a general location of where that
device is you're not going to you may not get a Pinpoint location of exactly where that device is so they could have
been hunting and searching in the right area uh it sounds like they were and it we can only assume that it was a Fitbit
or a phone that led them there originally he leads them to the body to which he had already covered it up with
leaves and and things from from the cornfield and the thing here is what's crazy is there's a chance that
if they wouldn't have got all this hardcore police work and found this dude through good hardcore police work right
I wonder I wonder if there's a chance she may not have been found I don't know how I don't know the process of
harvesting that corn um but I do know that there's big giant machines that are used to do that and had she not been
found in advance it might have uh made the process even more difficult yeah yeah and then you also have you know
animals in nature to deal with as well and you know what we've heard this crap before from some of these guys that say
Hey I'm blacked out in the I think that's [ __ ] and and here's here's what it is in in my opinion is that
during the course of this time frame that he claims to have been blacked out he did things that that he is
embarrassed of he does things that he does not want want to talk about or want to discuss and that's his easy way of
giving himself an easy out and just saying hey I blacked out during the portion of this whatever happened then
and then I woke up and she was dead yeah that wasn't me man that was me when I black out
yeah you so he will be he he's being charged with first-degree murder MH and that should come to trial I I know he's
already been uh presented the charges but um they don't have a death penalty so he he would only be looking at life
imprisonment for these charges and you know what he looks like right right if you ever seen like a goatee with the
hair but the hair is kind of up a little bit kind of fluffed up yeah I'm looking at a picture of him
right now he looks like that if you put it on a piece of [ __ ] right right no so um but no death penalty uh that will
not be on the table it just be life in in prison um a couple I mean at least there like we talked about before I
don't know if there's ever closure um I don't know if I mean at least the family gets to hear the
why um but I don't think that gives them closure but at least they know the information and I think sometimes when
the families don't know the information of what happened to their loved ones um it's harder to uh start rebuilding and
reliving their lives right um so I think you know you know our thoughts are with
the family and all of her friends and um but that we've seen so many cases where people don't get any
answers uh and they're just left wondering and I think that would possibly wear on you a little
more well he had lived there for 7 years and so he would be somewhat recognizable
in a town of only 1,400 people yeah supposedly they didn't know each other though um right he had a child with
somebody and that person with an ex-girlfriend yeah and that person has some kind of
connection I've heard they might have been Facebook friends or something of that nature maybe went to school
together and so it's possible that Molly knew of this individual but maybe didn't
know him so the FBI Pro profilers uh were correct on that um when it came out that it's and that's what's really
difficult here is because one a lot of people were trying to make this a very political issue I know the president
talked about this um it's not a political issue it's uh it's a horrible individual that killed
somebody I know that people are going to take it and use it either way for their
agenda um but that I mean that's not what we do on this show we don't talk politics you know the the articles that
I've been reading over the course of this weekend were it's a lot of people saying hey in a
town this small it's scary and terrifying for us to believe and now have the understanding of that her
killer was somebody that we would see at the grocery store right or see it would
be somebody that we would pass in traffic and I agree with that 100% but the but the scary thing to me the the
the most terrifying part of this to me is that that split de split decision to decide to murder someone who we have no
reason to believe that they knew each other at all this guy apparently just was driving and saw her and all of a
sudden it it goes from from I see that person I might kill that person well I think like I said everybody's arguing
you know the IL illegal immig imant issue it is a fact that if you know he technically wasn't supposed to be here
so therefore if he wasn't here illegally he never would have had the chance to murder
Molly and and that's true and what I wonder is this individual did a lot to get a job use fake
information the I mean he went to work work afterwards mhm and I just wonder when she said I'm going to call the cops
if that was the trigger you know the trigger and if that was that becomes the motive mhm if she calls the cops maybe
the you know my job didn't figure out that I'm not who I say I am the bank didn't figure out there's probably a
bunch of other entities that didn't figure out he's not who he says he is maybe the cops will mhm and if the cops
figure that out I'm gone mhm and maybe that was the motive it was a sad week last week and like you said and like we
said at the end of the shows last week our thoughts and hearts are with the family and all we can do now is take
this guy to court take him to trial and get that guilty verdict and that I don't
know when the healing starts but regardless that trial needs to happen and and it needs that might be
able to help the healing start at some [Music] [Applause] point

Off The Record /// Mollie Tibbetts Update Recorded: 8-27-2018 OTR: 18 www.truecrimegarage.com

Brief Summary

The episode discusses FY Malik's death and updates on the Molly Tibbits case, including the arrest of Christian Riviera.

Key points

FY Malik's Passing. FY Malik passed away at the age of 85, remembered for his unique character.
Breaking News on Molly Tibbits. The hosts discuss the shocking discovery of Molly's body and the implications for the case.
Christian Rivera Arrested. Christian Rivera, an illegal immigrant, is arrested and charged with Molly's murder.
The Terrifying Split Decision. A chilling reflection on the random nature of violence and the split-second choices that lead to tragedy.
Seeking Justice. The need for a trial to bring closure and healing to the affected family.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

He looked old when he was in his 80s.

Discussing FY Malik's appearance over the years

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Tension

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