Mollie Tibbets Update /// True Crime Garage | Forensic Files

[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] old Fahmy Malak passed away August 21st
he lived to be an old man though right like was it was he in his 80s I don't know and in the 80s he looked
like he's in his 80s he's one of those guys that like I think when he was probably born like when he's 20 he
became 80 yeah yeah he looked old when we like you said at the time of that case of the boys on the tracks case yeah
but we had a lot of fun with Fahmy Malak and filling Fahmy shirts i put as a 20%
off okay in 99 I just looked so he died Fahmy Malak died Tuesday the 21st at the
age of 85 is what this says mm-hmm and it sounds like he 85 years too long sounds like he was in Clearwater Florida
yeah if you look for bringing down the class the class level of Clearwater Florida
well you know how that you know when he was in Arkansas how they move they end up moving him it's a different
department and then from there he took a job somewhere and I was reading that there I think he was up to making a
hundred and sixty-five thousand dollars a year and he clearly got a Jetta I mean clearly he's either he's either
corrupt as hell or or dumb as hell and just doesn't know how to perform his job I mean give me 65,000 the hot seat here
and I'll do his job so okay so Fahmy Malak has passed away we we have Fahmy Malak t-shirts yeah
here's the marked him down to 1999 here's the problem with selling t-shirts with Fahmy Malak odd on the t-shirt
because not only was he old looking in the 80s he was also very ugly in the he's an ugly man yeah he uh but they're
they're nice t-shirts I love and I love the the phrase feeling Fahmy yeah it's just I mean I just still laugh about it
alright let's go let's get a little serious cuz we got a lot of updates on the Molly Tibbets case that we should
get to so my first thoughts here captain are a couple things I did talk to a lot
of people last week when the shows came out on Tuesday Wednesday Thursday you know talking to a lot of people people
reached out to me a lot of great feedback people loved that we were trying to cover something as it was
happening some people thought maybe we rushed it a bit I did have a couple people that said hey you should have
just waited until the press conference and told us what really happened we would have waited for the episode and
my response to that is unfortunately that wasn't an option we didn't have the choice of doing that and we were
actually doing something last week for the first time it was new for us as many shows as we've done to do something that
did news is breaking as we are recording the episodes and I think there was some
confusion because our goal was to just talk about our disappearance on the way to the garage I get a text message
saying that they found Molly and so that that changed things so I think there was
some listeners that just thought because there was breaking news in the morning that we just jumped on the case no that
was not the case we're gonna try to shine light on her disappearance and maybe you know help get some closure but
then it happened all that day yeah we were going to cover it anyway we were going to talk specifically about what
was known about the disappearance right what some of the theories were on the internet and and some of the rumors
coming out of Brooklyn Iowa that was our intent and it takes me depending on traffic 45 minutes to maybe slightly
over an hour to meet up with you in the garage on some days and what happened last week was before I left my house I
actually googled Molly Tibbets just to see that by chance were that was there some kind of update because they were
looking and I'll tell you what man you cannot say enough about the investigation in the investigators that
were involved in that they worked their asses off and they didn't quit they weren't gonna quit until til they found
some answers and so because of that I hid the old Google machine right before I left my
house and I said hey yeah was there any updates no nothing at that time I Drive here and I can't remember I wasn't
listening to the radio so they may have made an announcement on the radio but whatever I was listening to probably
sports or something like that was not going to have an update so I up you're already at the garage I get out of my
car and you go they found her and I you know what to be honest with you I thought you were just [ __ ] with me
because yeah because I make jokes like that all that well no no not that it would be a bad joke just then it you
know aha any time so when we select a case okay sometimes we select them weeks in advance sometimes we select them for
next week and with molly's case it was in the news we selected it for the next week yeah we also were getting hundreds
of emails saying you know bring attention to this case please it would have been straight up rude to the
listeners had we not covered it because we received so many so just an outpour of people wanting to know more about the
case and to keep it in on everyone's mind and so when we started when we decided we were going to cover it hmm
one thing that we kind of chatted about as we would talk about the case throughout the week was you know this
could they could find her at any moment right there could be breaking news on this at any moment we just need to be
aware of that we need to constantly remind ourselves to check and check and check and check and that's why what I
mean is that I thought you were messing with me I thought like you know cuz that's where our last conversation was
and I pull up and the reason - I had just checked before I left my house you're like right and they found her and
I'm like really when I gave you one of those little Kennett little attitude really win right and the tough thing
here too is there was a lot of her father's you know very intelligent man and he had a gut
feeling that that she was alive and that somebody took her and I kept thinking well maybe it's gonna be a good scenario
where where they do find her within that timeframe of us researching the case but
that she's alive and and then when we get the sad news that she's found dead you know it just
kind of changed everything for our show and we just try to do the best we can and again one of the reasons why we
can't wait is we have a schedule that we committed to and that's how we're able to have advertisers and they're able to
fund the show so people can listen for free so well essentially so just so everybody understands this most simple
way to break this down is we were punting we weren't drawing up plays and in calling them we were we were punting
we were adapting to a situation that was it was a tough one to be in and it not because of the podcast but because of
we're getting breaking news and it's not news that we want to hear it's sad news
well let's get to what we do know now okay so there was an individual that was arrested okay and we learned this from
the press conference and the thing that's so interesting to me here captain two things that I saw in this
investigation that you don't see in every single investigation one the police worked incredibly hard on this
and it seemed like they were all one front you know it was all one group working in unison together they were
going to get this thing and solved this thing as soon as possible the other thing that was interesting we talked
about the community a community of only 1400 people first thing I noticed in the
press conference was how many times they said they being law enforcement said this community helped us solve this case
this community was involved in this investigation right everybody that knew anything or thought anything thought
they saw anything they were coming forward and then there's also anybody that was coming forward the
had any video footage was coming forward and submitting that video footage or any
store that they asked for video footage they were receiving that with no fight back at all where sometimes people will
say you know we don't have to give you our surveillance footage until you get a warrant for it and when
we were trying to put together the episodes you heard us there we took a break because we thought we had the name
of the individual that was arrested it turns out that what that man has was not arrested as far as I know no and he
actually possibly was one of the guys that helped get video footage right he may have had some kind of you know we
talked about different security systems here on our program from time to time you can have these that are set up to
have video surveillance and he may have had just that and offering that up and that may be where his name came from
yeah and we got that we were recording live and a very credible source that I talked about a lot on the show
my buddy Morgan was giving us the information he was the individual that text me earlier on my way to the garage
saying that they they found her so he is a very credible source and he was digging for information thought that was
a name and it was misreported and in the report he was reading to me so that's how we got the name and you want to talk
about filling like a dick nose I mean I'm gonna feel like a dick nose forever for you know having this individual
associated with that he was arrested for her murder well and nobody deserves that
and and I deepest apologies to him because like we said we we were just going off the fly yeah and and in you
know Morgan who was trying to help us out mm-hmm I love that guy too man because he he has apologized a thousand
times for hey hey you know and it's like it was great to it was great to know that he was passionate about the case
too because he wasn't just going oh well it happened you know he didn't wasn't just kind of brushing it off he was over
apologetic and why he's super passionate about the true-crime community true crime garage true crime listeners
so hopefully we get him on the show I mean he's been begging to be on I will consider it on a off the record show
he's been begging for it if we if we ever sell out of Fahmy Malak shirts then that will be an excellent Morgan be on
the show so the man that was actually arrested in this case is 24 year old Christian Riviera mm-hmm and he is
illegal immigrant living in the Brooklyn Iowa area he had lived there we're getting a little bit of sketchy news and
what I mean by that is because he was living and working there illegally let's say off the books he was actually on the
books so where he worked I actually believe that he worked at the pig farm and he was a farmer he worked farm land
I don't know for certain that it was yet I remember how the pig farm became not a
pig farm hmm the reports that I've seen said that it's part of that group okay so that's why they would find some stuff
you know the red shirt maybe it was hers maybe it wasn't but they found some stuff in that area and he gave false
information right employer right so but again I think these employers need to do
a little bit better of a job of researching that information that they're getting I'm not going to pretend
to have complete understanding of how that works but what from what I've read is that there's something called an
e-verify keishon process right and supposedly the information he provided to them to the employer he passed all of
that Iver fan right here here because here's where the problem becomes so you pass the e-verification whatever right
and then they give you a check and then you have that same information that you gave the employer the illegal immigrant
has that same information that they gave the employer to get the job illegally then they go get a bank account and and
so we're talking about checks and balances and checks and balances that people didn't do right
I've had several times where people have come in to me and they go well here's my
ID and here's my check mm-hmm now the name and everything matches but the picture doesn't match and maybe he had a
fake ID with his picture on it who knows but they have to do a better job of checking checks and balances and if that
didn't happen I mean if that happened correctly then these illegal immigrants wouldn't have a chance to have a job and
and maybe they want to be here illegally so Christian Riviera the guy that's been
arrested and charged with first-degree murder charged with the first-degree murder of Molly Tibbets my understanding
captain is that he was not using false information or fake information to to have that job he was using someone's
actual legal information that's that's wrong yeah he he just took somebody else's information that's why I'm saying
did the picture on his ID match him mm-hmm because the people had the banks should
have known that right you know so people can talk about building a wall and and the Border Patrol and all that crap but
there's stuff that people can do within their community you know to alleviate some of this issue right and so my
understanding is that he actually led them to her body and this being what what led them to him was surveillance
footage yeah that they had some kind of footage from somebody we don't know who which shows a dark colored Chevy Malibu
in the area where she was jogging where she was running old city Malibu and so somehow this has not been released but
this is me kind of guessing here is that they somehow linked that vehicle to him
well the other report to or some speculation is that the V the video actually shows that he was falling her
in a car trying to with her through the window and when that wasn't working he actually stopped
the car and got out and if that was you know that could be on the footage as well they're not gonna release any of
that information not until the trial well in his defense attorney already submitted a gag order okay because at
the press conference they said a lot right you know a lot more than they normally say so it's
possible that he could have been following her in the car got out of the car which he did that's what he
confessed to but that possibly could be on video footage and hit the words he uses is that he ran along he ran after
her and then ran alongside her which sorry but that's called chasing he was chasing her or stalking yeah
and at some point she says hey man and and I'm gonna call the police you know get away from me I'm calling the police
and this is when he says he flipped out he got angry and next thing he knows he blacks out he claims it that he has
moments when he gets really angry that he blacks out hmm again claims this he states that the
next thing that he knows he's driving and he sees a white earbud on his lap to which then he goes I think she might be
in the trunk of my car well he finds her in the trunk of his car and sure her head is bloodied and she's she's passed
away at this point to which he then takes her to a country road to a to a cornfield and my understanding captain
is this cornfield is somewhat near the the former pig farm that we've discussed several times again I think that's why I
believe the report that says that he worked in some kind of conjunction with that farm well and that's oh he would
have known that area and if he left her there with the Fitbit or with her phone and either were on for any period of
time that might be why they were searching in that area right and the thing we have to
understand here is a lot of times especially when these devices when they lose power when they
power down Europe you might only get a general location of where that device is you're not going to you may not get a
pinpoint location of exactly where that device is so they could have been hunting and searching in the right area
it sounds like they were and if we can only assume that it was a Fitbit or a phone that led them there originally he
leads them to the body to which he had already covered it up with leaves and things from from the cornfield and the
thing here is what's crazy is there's a chance that if they wouldn't have got all this hardcore police work and found
this dude through good hardcore police work right I wonder I wonder if there's a chance she may not have been found I
don't know how I don't know the process of harvesting that corn but I do know that there's big giant machines that are
used to do that and had she not been found in in advance it might have made the process even more difficult yeah
yeah and then you also have you know animals in nature to deal with it as well and you know what we've heard this
crap before from some of these guys that say hey I blacked out no I think that's
[ __ ] right and here's here's what it is and in my opinion is that during the course of this timeframe that he claims
to have been blacked out he did things that that he is embarrassed of he does things that he does not want want to
talk about or want to discuss and that's his easy way of giving himself an easy out and just saying hey I blacked out
during the portion of this whatever happened then and then I woke up and she was dead yeah that wasn't me man that
was me when i black out yeah you know so he will be he he's being charged with first-degree murder mm-hmm and that
should come to trial I know he's already been presented the charges but they don't have a death penalty so he would
only be looking at life imprisonment for these charges and you know he looks like great right have you
ever seen a like a goatee with the hairs but the hair is kind of up a little bit
mm-hmm kind of fluffed up yeah I'm looking at a picture of him right now he looks like that if you put it on piece
of [ __ ] right right no so but no death penalty that will not be on the table it just be life in
prison a couple I mean at least they're like we talked about before I don't know
if there's ever closure I don't know if I mean it at least the family gets to hear the why but I don't think that
gives them closure but at least they know the information I think sometimes when the families don't know the
information of what happened to their loved ones it's harder to start rebuilding and reliving their lives
right so I think you know you know our thoughts are with the family and all of her friends and but that we've seen so
many cases where people don't get any answers and they're just left wondering and I think that would possibly wear on
you a little more well he had lived there for seven years and so he would be somewhat recognizable in a town of only
1400 people yeah it's a supposedly they didn't know each other though right he had a child with somebody and that
person with an ex-girlfriend yeah and that person has some kind of connection I've heard they might have
been Facebook friends or something of that nature maybe we went to school together and so it's possible that Molly
knew of this individual but maybe didn't know him so the FBI profilers were correct on that when it came out that
it's and that's what's really difficult here is because one a lot of people are trying to make this a very political
issue I know the president talked about it's not a political issue it's uh it's a [ __ ] but one individual that killed
somebody I know that people are gonna take it and use it either way for their agenda but I mean that's not what we do
on this show we don't talk politics you know the the articles that I've been reading over the course of this weekend
were it's a lot of people saying hey in a town this small it's scary and terrifying for us to believe and now
have the understanding of that her killer was somebody that we would see at the grocery store right or see it would
be somebody that we would pass in traffic and I agree with that 100% but that but the scary thing to me the the
the most terrifying part of this to me is that that split to set that split decision to decide to murder someone who
we have no reason to believe that they knew each other at all this guy apparently just was driving and
saw her and all of a sudden it goes from from I see that person I might kill that
person Wow I think like I said everybody's arguing you know the if the illegal immigrant issue it is a fact
that if you know he technically wasn't supposed to be here mm-hmm so therefore if he wasn't here illegally he never
would have had the chance to murder Molly and and that's true and what I wonder is this individual did a lot to
get a job use fake information I think I mean he went to work afterwards mm-hm and I just wonder when she said I'm
gonna call the cops if that was the trigger you know the trigger and if that was that becomes the motive
if she calls the cops maybe the you know my job didn't figure out that I'm not who I say I am the bank didn't figure
out there's probably a bunch of other entities that didn't figure out he's not who he says he is maybe the cops will
hmm and if the cops figure that out I'm gone mm-hmm and maybe that was the motive it was a sad week last week and
like you said and like we said at the end of the show's last week our thoughts and hearts are with the family and all
we can do now is take this guy to court take him to trial and get that guilty verdict hmm and that I don't know when
the healing starts but regardless that trial needs to happen and it needs that might be able to help the healing start
at some point [Music] you

Mollie Tibbets Update

Brief Summary

Fahmy Malak passes away; updates on Molly Tibbets' case and arrest of Christian Rivera for her murder.

Key points

Fahmy Malak's Passing. Fahmy Malak passed away at the age of 85, leaving behind a controversial legacy.
Molly Tibbets Found. Breaking news as Molly Tibbets' body is discovered, shifting the podcast's focus.
Christian Riviera Arrested. Christian Riviera, an illegal immigrant, is arrested and charged with first-degree murder.
The Randomness of Violence. The terrifying reality of encountering a killer in everyday life.
Motive Behind the Murder. Exploring whether a call to the cops triggered the fatal decision.
The Need for Justice. The importance of taking the murderer to trial for healing to begin.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

He was either corrupt as hell or dumb as hell.

Discussion about Fahmy Malak's career and actions.

1:46WatchAug 27, 2018

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