Off The Record /// Episode #7 | Forensic Files

[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] try the fudge they say try the fudge I
know what that means it's good fudge I got I got yeah I got someone you know some treats for the garage and we'll
start bringing doughnuts every week no I'm beer and doughnuts try the fudge I'm obese no you're not the funny thing
it's a funny thing that you mentioned fudge because I know you and I are drinking buddies but there's this thing
called snack buddies and what that has to do with is the monster of Laurens case okay so there was this interesting
article and it's quite lengthy I thought when I discovered this I thought I would
bring it here to the garage today Campton and read it to you but it's very lengthy so I think I'll just kind of
tell you what it's about so at the end of May an article came out in a magazine called Tempe it's a Italian magazine and
also an article in a newspaper over there that I believe once translated the the title of the newspaper would be
called the journal uh-oh you're going to say that jerk well it is called the jerk
the interesting thing about this these articles that came out there and they're one in the same from my understanding is
a case that we covered about a year ago the monster of Florence which is one of my one of the cases that fascinates me
the most as far as unknown serial killers you know who could this person be who is the monster of Florence well
the this article claims to have knowledge of who the notorious serial killer is and the crazy thing is they
refer to this man as Ulysses and okay apparent why is that a real name so it's it's my understanding is is not a real
name that it's just some kind of code name and I don't know if this is a code name that this person gave themselves or
if or if the the person that did the interview came up with this name back to the alias so I'm gonna call this
individual you Ulysses throughout the article the crazy thing though is this Ulysses person was actually referenced
in the actual investigation for the monster of Florence so the way that this goes down now I want everybody to spend
I need you Kempton to understand that I'm kind of at the mercy of whoever translated this newspaper article
mmm-hmm because when you look it up it's it's an Italian magazine an Italian newspaper so when you go to look it up
it's in Italian now there's been some people that have translated it to English and I do question if some things
got lost in translation let's say but mind you I'm giving you information but I'm at the mercy of that whoever
translated this article all right well let's dive into this but these we covered monster of Florence in episode
124 and 125 so if you're not familiar with the case you might want to check those out before ya continue to listen
so the way that the way that I understand this is that this Ulysses guy was having a phone conversation with a
biographer the biographer wants to write a biography about this Ulysses guy in his life so at some point during these
talks this Ulysses guy tells the biographer I am the monster of Florence and not only am am I the monster of
Florence I'm also the Zodiac killer mmm what so say what so though - let's break
this down because it actually it could be it is it is physically possible because so the the first monster of
Florence killing attacked this was 1968 and there were two victims and then we have the Zodiac victims which was from
1968 of 1968 through October of 1969 now there are some people that claim that there are additional zodiac victims but
these are considered David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen are considered by most kind of agreed upon by all that that
that is the first zodiac killing there is some thought that maybe that Cheri Jo Bates I believe was her name that she
might be in fact the first zodiac victim right but physically possible seeing that the first monster killings would
have been August of 68 right then you have the Zodiac killings from 60 from December 68 through October 69 and then
it's not until 1974 that the monster of Florence starts killing again in Italy right so he it there's a little break
after the one in 68 and I mentioned snack friends or snacking friends and this is where I questioned a bit of the
translation that I've been able to come across because the there's an article the once translated refers to snack
buddies as being guilty as the monster of Florence meaning it was like Thunder buddies well it was meaning that it was
a group of guys and I believe one of them was tried for it and I believe he was sentenced and then released later
they determined that he couldn't be the monster of Florence because he goes away
to prison and the monster continues to kill so the reason why I question the translation though is this this American
article refers to it as snack buddies and and we covered monster Florence and during that trial what the man referred
to him and his group as were picnicking friends which I could see in a loose translation it's similar but it's not
the same so well this I mean you know to not to debunk the theory but it's very similar to like Andy Kaufman and how he
would dress up as Tony Clifton and Bob zmuda saputo I think it's his name when Andy passed away Bob then became
Clifton Tony Clifton so all I'm saying oh all right whoa whoa whoa there's a little Tony
Clifton there for you out first house it was no but then I was putrified but my my my point here is that if these were
snack buddies or picnic picnic comrades right they would one would go to jail and one can would continue the killings
and by continuing it then then people would start thinking that the person that's in jail we got the wrong guy
yeah and that's certainly a possibility and here's the thing you know and I do this too you know so I don't want to
sound like I'm condemning anybody here but Oh God I tend to do this myself I think
sometimes we were mantis eyes some of these serial killers and their will think there was a there was a lot of
thought so the the picnicking friends or snack buddies whatever you want to call them
they're often referred to as this kind of group of bumbling idiots they're the Wet Bandits yeah and so there were a lot
of people that when they put this dude on trial and when this stuff started to come out through the course of actual
investigation people were going wait a second this monster Florence should be somebody it should be like a Hannibal
Lecter type like some brilliant uncatchable

Off The Record /// Episode #7

Brief Summary

The episode reveals claims linking the Monster of Florence to the Zodiac killer, discussing the identity of Ulysses and translation issues in the investigation.

Key points

The Monster of Florence Revealed. A new article claims to identify the notorious serial killer as Ulysses.
Snack Buddies or Picnic Comrades?. The translation of a term raises questions about the identity of the killer's accomplices.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

It's a funny thing that you mentioned fudge.

A humorous moment in the conversation.

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Tension

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