Natalie Bollinger /// Part 2 /// 644 | Forensic Files

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[Music] when the coroners report on Natalie was issued in handsome very significant
facts in it that altered the trajectory of the investigation this is an actual excerpt from the coroner's report by Dr
Steven Cena quote pathologic diagnosis one peripherating gunshot wound to the Head entrance left
temporal region with evidence of close range firing stippling injury to scalp skull and brain exit above right ear no
projectile recovered wound path directed left to right front to back and downward
end quote no time of death was given but the report stated that rigor mortis was
mild in all extremities Natalie is believed to have died closer to the time that she was last seen alive and
reported missing rather than closer to the time that she was found so rigor mortis Peaks at about 12 hours after
death and then it starts to subside if Natalie had only mild rigor then it had either not fully set in yet or had
passed so no time of death in the rigor or mild rigor mortis is quite an interesting angle to this investigation
it's interesting when you review the science of the investigation remember you go back a couple weeks ago on True
Crime garage on the beautiful True Crime garage radio dial to the Browns Chicken
Massacre remember the bodies were found in walk-in coolers and freezers the temperature
in this case was in the 30s at the time that she left her home around noonish and then the temperature drops to the
low 20s pretty quickly from there and stays really cold until about noon the following day from there the temperature
shoots up into the 60s so as the science suggests and as the coroner determined either
rigor was delayed due to this cold or it set in and had passed so mild rigor not
Peak ringer it's most likely that Peak rigor had passed by this time putting her death closer to Thursday afternoon
when she went missing and as the captain stated as we always State here in True Crime garage the timeline is so very
important and knowing the time period and shrinking that window of when the murder took place is going to help us
find the proper suspect the report stated Natalie was shot in the left temple at very close range a nine
millimeter casing was found near her body according to the coroner's report Natalie also had a potentially lethal
dose of heroin in her blood system and had a history of heroin use as evidenced by needle tracks on her lower left bicep
inner elbow and right hand this is a devastating scene but like you said there's no gun found in somebody
haphazardly tried to cover up Natalie's body according to what we found online heroin is processed by the body
relatively quickly it appeared from the high levels of the drug in Natalie's system that the
ingestion of this substance nearly coincided with her demise from the shooting this too helps to tell experts
that the time of death occurred in that afternoon window from the previous day so now we have a better timeline and we
have a better sense of what happened to Natalie we have evidence that we should be
looking at one suspect but the family believes that law enforcement should also be looking into her boyfriend as
well yeah Natalie's family was suspicious very suspicious of her boyfriend early on in this investigation
but the very good detectives working this case come out and say no absolutely not he's not a suspect he's completely
innocent he's cleared and very sadly he is just another victim in this creative young woman's murder
so he he has to be put through the ringer he is put through the ringer and the detective says when I said to Joseph
after we figured out and knew that it was not him he's like it just all came pouring out of this kid this young man
just lost his girlfriend his love the person that's probably the closest to him he
had been worried about her for weeks anyway but then he's getting the stink eye from people thinking that maybe he
had something to do with this and the police were on to him very quickly as we said because they were concerned that
hey yeah you reported your girlfriend missing but you failed to tell us about the the gun not just failed you
purposely left out that information that makes you look pretty bad from my angle
but we found the information that tells us no it's an impossibility that you are
a responsibility you are responsible for this you are cleared we know you didn't
do it and we are sorry for your loss well that would be so hard to have a loved one go missing and then found dead
and in this case all signs point to the fact that Natalie was murdered to know that you're going to become a suspect
that would be very difficult to deal with especially if you know you're innocent you're going to be thinking hey
law enforcement do your job and go after the right person or in this case there's
so much suspicious activity online coming from Sean but you have to let law enforcement do
their due diligence and once they can clear you like they did with Natalie's boyfriend in this case now they can move
on to other suspects and unfortunately Captain some of the people online weren't willing to let the detectives do
their job and do their their work I mean these online sleuths not all of them but
some of them were overwhelmingly and very vocally angry with the sheriff's office for not arresting not charging
and again more importantly not protecting Natalie from Sean Schwartz but here we go Captain here we go this
is just another example that sometimes life stops on a dime so on February 8th remember the murder took place late
December for all of January the detectives in the sheriff's office has the online sluice
in the online community all over their backs for not arresting Sean Schwartz on February 8th it looked as though the
police might have the answers to all of the questions that everybody was wanting to know here in this case why
they hadn't arrested Sean Schwartz and that's because they publicly announced they did make an arrest in the case on
February 8th and they were charging someone with murder in the first degree but it wasn't Joseph the boyfriend and
to many people all over the country following this case to their surprise it was not Sean Schwartz on February 8th
Adams County authorities announced the arrest of 22 year old Joseph Michael Lopez on suspicion of first-degree
murder that means this guy who no one online had heard of no one in Natalie's family had heard of and a first degree
charge indicated that police believe that this nutless loser intended to murder her and did so with
pre-meditation yeah and we've looked into so many cases and there's been people that have jumped out like oh that
is a suspect and if you go down that rabbit hole you get thousands of yes says oh they did this and that was
strange and they have to be the Killer and then you get one no they have a solid Alibi or they're in another state
or there's some reason there's no DNA of the individual there's no fingerprints so you might get a thousand yes but all
it takes is one no and then you have to move on to another suspect everyone had been fixated on this Sean Schwartz as a
prime suspect but police had been going through Natalie's phone this is what's going to lead them who ultimately is the
suspect that they are going to arrest in charge well how did this guy get on law
enforcement's radar how did they get to this guy well they start going through Natalie's phone and remember we said we
quoted the sheriff's department and the detectives in yesterday's episode when the case first broke when they had it
they had a press conference explaining that we are investigating this young woman's murder we are aware of this Sean
Schwartz individual we have spoke with him we want to know who spoke with Natalie during that 26 hour time period
we don't have any activity on her phone we don't have any activity of her in social media we need somebody to tell us
who she was talking to during that time and we can't find evidence of that this is this is shameful and and I and I'm
glad that I do not know what phone carrier what Service carrier she had for her cell phone because the delay in this
investigation was police requested her phone records the carrier comes back and says you need a warrant so they issue a
warrant for the phone records right in the warrant the language that was written in the warrant stated that they
had 30 days to supply law enforcement with that information that they're requesting or they could seek legal
action against the phone service well the phone service God bless them and I'm saying that as sarcastically as
I can took every bit of those 30 days to get the information back to the Sheriff's Office so
here's why I say shame on them look I'm all for privacy and protecting the privacy of our citizens your privacy and
my privacy the captain's privacy is Paramount to our existence but I definitely need my privacy here's the
issue the information that you guys are holding on to lock and key that you are denying and
delaying giving to law enforcement could take a very violent killer a very dangerous individual who could kill an
assault again off of the streets you could save a life by getting us this information instead
they see oh we got 30 days to do it it probably how long do you think it would physically take them to acquire that
information and send it to the Sheriff's Office well faster than a flicky flickie
it it doesn't take physically take 30 days to achieve that and so I say shame on them for not giving this information
to the police first because or sooner because this is what led directly to this individual it was it was that hang
up in the investigation that that was uh this the major speed bump here in finding the person responsible for her
murder yeah I agree with you I don't have a problem with them needing a warrant but once you get that warrant
it's like come on this should take less than 24 hours exactly exactly I'm with you Captain they should have to have a
warrant because we need to protect the privacy of our citizens but privacy once you got that request get that
information think about your own children think about your own family and you could be helping them all at the
same time getting a horrible person off of the streets so we have everybody that's fixated on the Schwartz guy
police are doing their digging once they finally get the police the phone records
back from the carrier and they're seeing a lot I mean a ton of communications between Natalie our victim this guy who
nobody knows it's 111 texts 111 text messages between this Lopez guy and Natalie all on the day that she went
missing the texts were all from the very day that Natalie died and Lopez had never texted her before that date and
never texted her after that date so he looks very suspicious on February 8th the police they go to his work he works
at a Domino's Pizza not texting or calling after her death is a very darn move I don't say this sarcastically God
bless them doing research on this case I ended up ordering a wonderful Domino's Pizza [ __ ] weirdo hashtag not a
sponsor weirdo they go and they ask him to come in for an interview at the Sheriff's Office and Sheriff McIntosh
said that when investigators initially contacted Lopez he makes a comment to them
so they say hey we'd like to talk to you they don't tell them what it's about they say hey we'd like to talk to you
could you come to the Sheriff's Office and speak with us do an interview right and he makes a comment to them he says
this has to do with that girl I talked to on Craigslist they're sitting there going
what do you mean Craigslist they don't say that to him right Craigslist never appeared anywhere in their investigation
until this Lopez guy says it to them he agrees to go in and do the interview after his interview Lopez was arrested
for the murder of Natalie Bollinger he was appointed a public defender and held without bond Joseph Lopez had no
criminal history leading up to this point now at a press conference this is announcing the arrest Sheriff McIntosh
said quote at this point to my knowledge we don't have any more Persons of Interest in this case he goes on to say
we believe that from what we currently see that we have the lone suspect in this case and that Sean was not involved
end quote Yeah I think they had to make that statement because of the amount of harassment he was getting online and
look and I'm not saying that he didn't deserve it I mean when you're posting ridiculous comments threatening comments
when you're posting strange things when when somebody has to get a restraining order against you because they feel
uncomfortable there's reasons why he looked like a good suspect but good for law enforcement to say look this is our
guy Lopez is our guy and there's no other suspects reminding them they cleared the boyfriend they cleared Sean
right and here's the situation we need to now as detectives figure out what these 100 plus texts are about we also
need to figure out what we think went down and how it went down it actually went down because we're going to be
sitting across from this guy in an interview and he while he willingly came to the Sheriff's Office to be
interviewed he may shut down or he may try to manipulate our investigation or the interview itself
so they have to come in there with a game plan they they could tell from the text that a couple things had happened
so this and what I'll give you the detailed statement as Lopez gave it now keep in
mind this is I'm going to give a summarized version this was a very lengthy interview and of course he
wasn't honest throughout most of this interview so Lopez tells the police that Natalie hired him to shoot her and
according to him he says this is how everything went down he says that he responded to a Craigslist ad in the
women seeking men section titled I want to put a hit on myself so Lopez he sees this on Craigslist I want to put a hit
on myself he texts the woman who placed the ad which we later learn as Natalie she tells him they introduce themselves
she's Natalie he's Lopez Joseph Lopez they had never met before December 28th he admits that to police he says that
they messaged back and forth multiple times and Natalie's telling him that she wanted to be shot from behind and that
she could Supply the gun Lopez tells police that Natalie quote wanted to get on her knees and be
executed from behind because she did not want to see the gun end quote they made
a plan for Joseph Lopez to pick Natalie up in his car in his vehicle he drove to her apartment in Broomfield
picks her up as planned and they drive around for a while he says they're driving around for a
while because he's trying to change her mind but he tells police she was determined to die she said she was
having issues with her boyfriend and it had all become just too much she wanted her life to be over
so they discussed how he would be paid remember this is supposed to be a hit he says that Natalie could not settle on
a spot that she liked or could not find a place that she liked or she was wavering in her decision to to end her
life so Joseph Lopez says yeah I exchanged the text with her yeah I picked her up yeah we had this
Arrangement through Craigslist right but I ended up taking her home I tried to talk her out of it I ended up
taking her home I dropped her off at her home and when I did she was alive she was fine of course this story was
ridiculous because we know Natalie never returned home after she was reported missing and
police did not buy his story not for one second [Music] foreign [Music] thanks for joining us thanks for telling
a friend cheers to you all and cheers to you Colonel cheers to everybody out there and just like we took a little
break in the garage here police take a little break from the interview the detectives step out the
room for a minute and they come up with this plan because they're saying look we
got all this data from from his phone records we got data from her phone records we we can see these text
exchange we know that this guy is trying to feed us some [ __ ] well why it smells like horseshit guess what stores
closed we ain't buying it so they go back in and they confront Lopez with all of the data from the phones they're
saying hey not only do we have these text exchange but we can see that your phone on the 28th
on the day that she was killed it traveled from Natalie's apartment or home to the area where Natalie's body
was eventually found and that's when Lopez says okay you got me I was there I was there but she shot herself in the
head the cops say nope we have the science the trajectory of the bullet and that's why we went through that
portion of the autopsy clearly indicates that it'd be impossible for her to do it
herself exactly she could not have physically no human being could have physically done that to themselves
so he then he's going to slowly you see as he progresses he puts up and tries to
explain things away making him sound innocent and police keep shooting everything down and pointing out no
you're wrong this is not right it this couldn't have happened this way no matter what you say we have the evidence
to back it up he's progressing a little bit right before he wasn't there when she was now now he's there when she was
killed but she killed herself police say no that didn't happen he he inches in and
he says okay she convinced me to do it I I did the deed she convinced me to do it he says
that he stopped the car at the spot that they found her on Riverdale Road and this next part is from CBS News where he
says uh she knelt down on the ground and he knelt down along her left side and slightly in front of her this according
to court records he said they said a prayer he got up and closed his eyes and he fired the Fatal shot Lopez used the
gun Natalie had given him to shoot her in the head then he took the gun and her purse and he leaves the scene bizarrely
enough he he ends up going into work to Domino's to work his shift afterward he ends up leaving at some point leaving
his shift early that night in his interview he told police that the gun he used to shoot Natalie which which she
brought with her was still in the trunk of his car right so he's at the Sheriff's Office his car is parked in
the parking lot because he willingly went to the interview with them and he says yeah the gun that I shot her
with is in the trunk of my car and they go out and they check his car boom the gun's right there in his trunk her purse
is right there he he hid these items under the spare tire in the trunk but they recovered them he tells them where
they can find them so now police had to look into this question about Lopez telling the truth right the the
Craigslist ad cited by Lopez had mysteriously vanished of course by this point yeah police though had the benefit
of having Natalie's phone information so they could see the content of the text and whether it was true that she hired
him to murder her the investigators did State publicly that it was confusing because while some of Natalie's
confidants said she had suicidal ideations others said she was happy and had overcome her demons
so they're trying to sort through and figure out what portions of Joseph Lopez's story
is truthful and what portions of his story are flat out lie can you imagine being law
enforcement during the initial Terror interrogation you know he's feeding you a line of [ __ ] but he is feeding you
something and so you you have to have this mindset of what I I need to dismiss some of these things but but let them
know hey it's okay for you to eventually tell us the truth I mean that would be a
very difficult situation to navigate if you're law enforcement because I think I'd be so angry with him that I just
want to rip his damn face off yeah Sheriff McIntosh said at the press conference that Lopez and Natalie had a
brief social media type relationship the arrest warrant affidavit makes clear that their relationship was not sexual
in nature and indeed they had never met prior to December 28th so a little bit more on those text
messages here Captain so the information that the detectives obtained finally that there were 111
text messages to and from an unknown number from Natalie's phone to and from an unknown number and we
later learned that that is Joseph Lopez's number this starting at 10 58 A.M on that very sad day there was another
flurry of messages around 12 20 PM remember we have her boyfriend that later reports her as missing so there
were people the boyfriend and her family and friends were in contact with Natalie
that day and again Peaks and valleys I think I got the impression anyway that a couple of them were kind of purposely
checking in on her and keeping an eye on her even if it was from a distance but thankfully they were because we're able
to narrow down the time that is of the most importance in this investigation that time when she
went missing that time when she's communicating with this Joseph Lopez and he ends up picking her up and then we
track his phone from her apartment to where she is later found it's all stacking up very nicely against this
Joseph Lopez who investigators then discovered through Domino's time cards that Lopez called out he called off sick
on the 28th he went in for a little bit but he left for a little bit a little bit into his shift he calls off on the
29th and then on the 30th he says that he's still ill and he returns to work on the 31st yeah he just cut the
I just murdered somebody flew the GPS data from Lopez's phone showed that he traveled from Natalie's apartment
building on the 28th between 1204 and 12 30 p.m the phone then drove to the location where Natalie was found on
Riverdale Road we don't know because of we're going off of information that's been released in this case we don't know
we can't State 100 percent here if they if they drove directly from her apartment to this location or if they
did in fact drive around for a while once he and his phone are at that location he's only there for a total of
eight minutes yeah Lopez is going to be formally charged with first degree murder on February 14th if he were
convicted of that charge under Colorado law he could be sentenced to a minimum sentence of life in prison or a maximum
of death but it was all over by the end of 2018 because Lopez decided to enter into a plea deal with prosecutors
whereby he pled guilty to second-degree murder so the maximum penalty for this charge is only 48 years the judge
Roberto Ramirez sentenced the then 23 year old Joseph Lopez to the maximum sentence 48 years in prison this
sentence of Lopez definitely upset her family but I think one of the things that you have to consider when you're
law enforcement is if you get him to plead guilty and get 48 years sentence then there's a lot of information about
Natalie that might not have to come out in court yeah Natalie's family was not happy in fact in the sentencing hearing
Ted Bollinger ripped into Lopez addressing him directly saying you took advantage of my daughter
she was vulnerable and drugged you premeditated brutally shot and killed my baby I asked for an eye for an eye you
have been protected the Bollinger family had the Bollinger family had no say in this this is a deal with the Devil
it's it's difficult here for prosecutors and I'm not trying to defend prosecutors
here in the situation I'm not trying to go against the grain with the Bollinger family
I've reviewed hundreds of these types of cases and every time I always say the most appropriate sentence is whatever
the victim's family wants and I will always stand that way by that and I will always feel that way however in this
case you can see some of the hurdles that we might have here with the actual trial and trying to try this guy for
first degree murder in front of a jury there is evidence of this young woman asking him to pick her up there is
evidence of her saying that she can provide a gun and you don't want to get too far into the weeds at that trial and
somebody on the jury going well this just looks like an assisted suicide this is right this guy's being way
overcharged but here here's the here's the thing at the end of the day the detectives
know what happened here the prosecutor knows what happened here the family knows what happened here it's
heartbreaking there's no there's no perfect sentence for Joseph Lopez there's no perfect sentence for any
murderer out there that satisfies everyone and here the complications or what could
have been complications with the trial this guy could have ended up getting a lot less time in prison and I'm telling
you this guy is much more dangerous than he looks on the surface and police know
that they said look this guy this guy we reviewed his past we went through his old journals we went this
guy was obsessed with the thought of killing somebody and when he saw that Craigslist ad
that was posted that morning he saw an opportunity he he saw an opportunity to do something that he had always thought
about doing and then this scumbag goes to her apartment picks her up where any other normal person with a heart with a
beating heart and real emotions would have helped this young lady would have tried to find help
for this young lady would have tried to talk her out of it he's driving around trying to talk her into the death
penalty trials are a lot harder for prosecution it could be longer for the family so that I see that there's pros
and cons either way and police as said the detectives they very quickly learned that there's this pretty straightforward
normal looking dude that everyone else saw in Lopez right but they knew that this guy had another completely other
side to him an alter ego if you will he had all these crazy characters online that he created that many of them were
obsessed with murder or they were they were characters that he labeled as psychos and he seemed to celebrate
them being psychos right and so it was through these journals and it was through going through his computer and
his information that police found look this guy was harboring this dark secret these dark fantasies and he took
advantage of this young woman when she was at her lowest and needed some help he swooped in and took advantage of the
situation now the other thing too and I don't want to throw too much blame around
and too much shame around right but situations unfortunately there's other situations this is not the first time
nor will it be the last time that somebody posts a suicidal ad or a suicide type ad on Craigslist or
some other Outlet there is one situation where a woman did just that thing however people helped
her they they helped to get her help right one thing that I didn't like when reviewing this was the detectives
stated that that after getting this information from Lopez they were now able to go to Craigslist and figure out
what had happened and confirmed that part of his story there's like a four minute death window
there Captain that's you you you you review these cases and they're heartbreaking
but there's these little pieces these little tiny nuggets of information in these cases that are even
more heartbreaking it was a four minute death window she posted that ad he responds to it two minutes later two
minutes after he responds to it it's flagged and removed from Craigslist a lot of people are looking into this case
I wonder if that post is real and and obviously it was but you'd think with these algorithms and everything they'd
be able to flag these even faster right not just flag them faster but you wonder well I
don't wonder I my reaction to that is isn't there something more they can do than just remove the ad right there's I
mean a welfare check on somebody again I don't I don't know how that would all go
into place it's not my job to sort through the logistics of that but it just seems to me like there could be
something more that would be done than just removing the ad and again it's not the first time that this kind of ad was
placed won't be the last time there's also homicidal ads that appear on occasion let's do more than just remove
the ad one just to be clear like you said it's not your job or your responsibility
it is called Craigslist Craig is responsible but again you hear us describe the situation you hear us go
through everything the lies that Lopez tries to tell the detectives the detectives sorting through those lies
and extracting the truth and the little truths along the way to put together this complete Narrative of what they
believed happened and ultimately charged him with first degree murder they're saying first degree was the right charge
initially the prosecutor agreeing before the plea deal and this is because think
about how this whole thing plays out when he got in his car that day that morning and drove he's making an effort
to be involved in this right and and murder this young woman he thought this through he didn't just
show up to where she was found and find himself in a situation with a gun in his
hand no he had time to think through this to to either keep putting himself in this situation or to get his ass out
of that situation and you know what he didn't do he didn't get out of the situation he got in his car he drove to
her apartment he picked her up he didn't try to talk her out of of this at all he
didn't try to help her he didn't try to get her help instead he drives her to the spot where she's later found and he
pulls the trigger and again shame on the phone company you should have got that information to the detectives much
sooner right if if we were able to walk into that building and say to Mr Mrs director of personnel or Mr Mrs
president of this company or or whomever they put us in contact with if we knew then and there that day that
this is how this went down this dangerous man went and picked up this young woman and then killed her and if
you give us her phone records it could help us catch this dangerous man but they don't know that at the time they
don't know that her phone records are going to yield anything so I say to those out there when law enforcement
comes to you for help and they have the paperwork and the warrant that's signed by a judge to get information from you
that will help their investigation and help to keep our citizens and our streets safe
please don't delay give them that information this guy if if he had done this particip you know we know he did
this we know he participated in this we know that it was premeditated by the definition of premeditation he thought
this through and continued to push the situation forward who's to say that he wouldn't have just
started killing people the next day right say what this guy would have done what
we do know is when he leaves that crime scene that day leaves Natalie there that
day guess what he has now in his possession a firearm he has the ability to do what
he's been thinking about doing for all these years all that sick stuff that that they found in his journals talking
about torturing people killing women he's got a firearm now he's got a gun now and it ain't in his name he's got a gun
that they very likely cannot Trace back to him if they don't find it on his person
this guy is incredibly dangerous and you guys drug your feet helping the cops get
him off the street well this is why mental health needs to be more of a common place because it seemed on some
level you know Natalie was talking about some of her struggles with some people but there's
but it's almost like she got to the point where the only answer the only solution to her
struggles was to end her life and I think if we make mental health definitely something that's more
commonplace not only can we talk about the struggles but we can also talk about like overcoming these struggles and that
some not every person that has deal dealt with drug addiction or dealt with depression has it ended in suicide a lot
of people have success stories and we need to be able to share those more so people know that there is
there's other Solutions and the Bollinger family is exactly right a heavier sentence greater consequence
for Joseph Lopez certainly warranted and would be ideal however I can understand the issues the
problems with going to the trial it's the second degree murder charge maximum penalty is 48 years in prison thankfully
the judge gives him the max of 48 years in prison and I'm hoping that that 48 sticks because keep in mind Joseph Lopez
was only 22 years old when he was charged with Natalie's murder that will make him about 70 years old when when
he's able to get out of prison and I hope they keep him there every minute of that maximum sentence it's all around a
sad case it's all around a sad story The One bright spot is thankfully at the end
of the day they got the right guy for this murder foreign [Music] you could be anywhere but you're here
with us in the garage and we want to thank you thank you so much for the support onwards and upwards Colonel do
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December 28th, 2017 - Broomfield, Colorado. At 3:30 p.m., a 911 call comes into Broomfield police. It is a male caller. He’s calling emergency services to report that his girlfriend, 19 year old Natalie Bollinger is missing. He believes Natalie left their home around noon. Then he tells the dispatcher that Natalie’s phone was left behind, so he has no way to contact her. He has no idea where she could be and he’s very concerned. Join us in the Garage as we discuss the mysterious case of Natalie Bollinger.

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Brief Summary

Natalie Bollinger's murder leads to Joseph Lopez's arrest after crucial evidence from phone records and a Craigslist ad surfaces.

Key points

Coroner's Report Reveals Shocking Details. The coroner's report on Natalie reveals significant findings that change the investigation's direction.
Arrest of Joseph Lopez. Authorities arrest Joseph Lopez for first-degree murder, shocking many who followed the case.
The Fatal Shot. Lopez fired the fatal shot with a gun Natalie had given him.
Plea Deal Consequences. Lopez pled guilty to second-degree murder, receiving a maximum sentence of 48 years.
Family's Anguish. Natalie's family expressed deep anger and sadness over the plea deal.
The Dark Secret. Investigators discovered Lopez had dark fantasies about murder.

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Life stops on a dime.

9:00WatchJan 26, 2023

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