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Captain this this is some exciting stuff I'm excited for today's show we are going to be talking about some of our
favorite true crime documentaries got to do a little got to clear the air a bit before we walk into
this because we've done this twice before back in 2016 and 2018 so our list that we are presenting
here today are not necessarily our favorite or our top five or top 10 True Crime document rri of all time right
it's just a new list since the old List have been out so these are ones that we have watched devoured since our list
that came out in 2016 in 2018 now you're going well what were on those lists well it's like 30
documentaries or something so you can find that if you're listening on the Stitcher app which is free you can
listen to all the old episodes go and dig up episodes 59 in episodes 197 for those two list or if you're a Die Hard
then you listen to off the Record yesterday where we discussed both those list yeah and those are the people that
we like the most they yeah when you you know sometimes you have to rank your children by which one you love the most
or which one showers more yeah or which one you love the least well the uh off the Record people cheers to you you won
again you're our favorite children all right yeah all right number five we're just doing five we're doing five each so
it'd be interesting if we have my suspicion here Captain is we will have at least one that makes it onto both of
our list well you're a betting man I am I got let's put $50 on that all right you're you I know you too well you'll
change your list on the Fly just to win the 50 bucks that's how betting works all right without further Ado I
get to go first so my number five but we should be clear it's it's not just a one-part documentary it could be a docu
series right could be a long form or could be a docu series so my number five is actually long form it's an hour and
42 minute documentary that came out a long time ago 2011 it's called a nightmare in Los
cruus so you can find this on Amazon Prime but you'll have to buy it or rent it okay
which I did and I did that weeks before we put out our coverage on that still unsolved case the bowling alley massacre
in Los crues right worth the rental not only worth the rental but good enough to
make it on my top five that I've seen since 2018 mhm you know so I I really enjoyed
it the director is Charlie Min and Mark Meyers now Charlie Min is pretty well known for his
continued continued participation in keeping this case in the public eye and Charlie Min is an interesting
dude he says that you know when he was in college he saw the old Unsolved Mysteries when they presented this case
and we talked about that when we covered it how Unsolved Mysteries kind of did like an old by the way it was one of
their wanted segments where they were like this horrible crime happened just like a month or so ago I think it
happened so it happened in January and Unsolved Mysteries put it on their show in early April which is a quick
turnaround for a whole Film Production and TV production crew they just really wanted to help and they really wanted to
put these composite sketches of the individuals that were wanted for this horrible crime on TV so Unsolved
Mysteries they only did like seven or eight minutes on the entire case now again it was very fresh it was a very
new case and then Charlie Min well he puts this out on in 2011 I think his original goal was try
to trying to get it out right at the 20 year anniversary and I think he I think there was some trouble and it it took a
slightly longer than that but he did a really interesting take on it because he he really dove into well what could be
the motive for this because the motive in that that case just doesn't make any sense that they go in and they don't
steal that much money the perpetrators and the result is they attempt to kill seven people that's a
lot of damage for little reward for their their uh their attack their troubles their what they put these
people through we had a lot of listeners from that area say that it's probably the biggest speculation in that area was
that it was some kind of mob or gangster related hit due to the fact that the guy that
owned the bowling alley had a bunch of problems with gambling yeah he seemed to have uh some of his own problems and as
you said and then there's also thought that that drugs was part of the the motivation or or behind the the crime
itself that maybe these two were not only looking for money in this robbery but maybe they were led to believe or
had reason to believe that there could be a large stash of drugs somewhere in the the bowling alley in the business
right so that's my number five there Mr Captain a nightmare in Los crues as said
you can watch that on Amazon and it's a you'll have to rent it or purchase it all right so my number five is one case
of the new Unsolved Mysteries series oh I like what you did there it's the first
case Ray Rivera yes so Ray Rivera's was the first case that came out everybody was really excited about Netflix is
coming out with Unsolved Mysteries and they they remixed the theme a little bit but they didn't change it too much and
everybody was really excited but now the format Chang changed because the format
used to be where there would be multiple cases and there' be you know like you were saying something be featured for 5
minutes or 10 minutes and sometimes they would talk about aliens or big fooot sometimes they' talk about missing
person cases so the format has changed the whole series is rated 74% on Rotten Tomatoes you can find Unsolved Mysteries
the series on Netflix it's still there mhm I really thought the first case was the best case it was this guy that they
they moved to a whole different state to work for his friend and then one day he
gets a call and then they can't find him and when they find him it looks like he
went through the roof of a building it was a a hotel a fancy hotel yeah and it it was one of those cases it reminded me
so much of a when you hear of a Brian schaer or you hear of a Mara muray where you just go what that doesn't make any
sense not only not only what this doesn't make any sense more so too is what why have I not heard of this before
like I I don't know about you but I had not heard of Ray Rivera's case until Unsolved Mysteries and I got this
fantastic text from the captain who was like have you started to watch the new Unsolved Mysteries yet and I said no and
he said you'll really like the first case and you were absolutely right it's a it's a fascinating case yeah it's a
case that I think we should even though a lot of people have seen that episode I
think it's a good case that we could have a lot of discussion on speculation cuz the other thing fascinating about
that case is that there's this four-page note that it was four pages the whoever
made this note shrunk down four pages into one and it was folded in duct tape to his desk and it seems almost like
some kind of cryptic writing but overall and I might get some hatred for this and that's fine but
overall the series to me was maybe a five out of 10 I think they could have hit a home run but I think it's missing
certain things and I know a lot of people say well you can't replace a host like that my argument is that with there
being a no host and by you changing the format of it you're really losing a lot of the characteristics of
why people liked Unsolved Mysteries in the first place and so it just it could have been called anything else and I
think it would have still been pretty good but I don't think it necessarily had to be called Unsolved Mysteries I
give it the whole series a five out of 10 but case number one Ray Rivera I give that a n and a half out of
10 yeah I'm I'm with you I for for the most I like that they called it Unsolved Mysteries I like that the original
people were back at it and working to put put this show out again a show that we love so much as as children I don't
mind the long form and that each episode is kind of it's own Standalone case that
doesn't bother me and I I actually thought the opposite of what you said I thought it was smart not to go with a
host just because you you couldn't that was the problem anytime they brought it back in the past was that
the host was always and I I thought the host always did a good job it's just it was always a let down because that's
what we grew up and that's what we're used to right but we've seen several shows where they do reboots and that's
kind of the make or break because the thing is if when they came back out with it the first time it was like oh yeah
this is Nostalgia but there's nothing that really connects you in a sense of you know one of my favorite shows is is
queery and when they replaced the host when it went to Netflix I was going am I going to like
this these new host well you do and they're different from the first host but once you once you do if you do like
them then you're rooting for them to do well you're rooting for them to come back it's just like if you watch mind
Hunter the actors did such a great job you have now a relationship with these actors you want them to come back for
season 3 mhm and I think the fact that there was no person to connect to it's like well if they came back out with
another season that'd be cool but if they don't no big deal I want to be heartbroken well good pick by you there
Captain um my number four is called long shot and this is from 2017 and I believe we've actually talked
about this either you know on off the Record or on True Crime garage or or just you know to together somewhere
before but I really enjoyed this film called long shot it's a documentary about a man who's arrested for a murder
now the interesting thing about this was he had an alibi and his Alibi they were
questioning it they're like yeah you were at a ball game sure thing yeah we don't believe you because we have
somebody else who puts you at the murder scene and says you're the guy that did it right well what ends up happening is
that they have because it's a baseball game you know there is footage somewhere camera
footage of that game but in a weird weird coincidence they were filming and see I'm trying to discuss
this without giving to much away but I guess at this point I got to say who cares it's 3 years old if you if you've
not seen it yet um then you know I maybe you weren't looking to watch it anyway but the weird thing about this is that
they were filming an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm at that actual baseball game right so they had more cameras
there than they normally would and you had HBO who had cameras there and HBO I mean just one of the best in the
business at at be it movies TV shows or do documentary so this one is great and the thing that I like about it too um
you know I like things that are long I like things that are short it doesn't matter uh minutes wise as long as it's
good this one I was surprised because when I sat down to watch it I was expecting you know most documentaries
hour and a halfish something like that but um this one was only like 40 maybe 45 it's 40 minutes long actually I'm
looking at my notes right now 40 minutes long so it's a quick one to get through
and it's very interesting and I love the diagrams along the way the way that they
lay the case out for you for and against this individual it's very easy and clear
and concise to follow so I love that part of it and it's very entertaining very interesting and it's it's almost
like watching a a now episode of of Unsolved Mysteries you're going to get through this this thing in about 40
minutes and this is available on HBO this is on Netflix all right so my number four would be I love you now
die which was released in 2019 it's 2 hours and 20 minutes it's available on HBO Max
97% on Rotten Tomatoes it's oh that's pretty high Michelle Carter stands trial for sending aggressive text messages to
her boyfriend encouraging suicide before he was found dead by suicide in his car
it goes through the trial a lot and it's very sad I think depression and suicide are something that are very
it's a very complex issue very complex case and it's one of those cases I think throughout the documentary you go well I
see her being wrong but I don't know if that means that she's a murderer and you
just but it's you're constantly getting pulled back and forth on on what to think of this and I highly recommend it
I think it was very interesting and and and when they break down all the evidence it's it's definitely a a very
interesting case so number four I love you now die Okay so we've not had any that have made both list so far right so
my number three is called the hunt for the Boston bombers this was a TV movie it says TV
movie but it's actually a documentary but if you look it up on IMDb it says TV movie
2014 and of course this is the recounting of all your all your shows are old yeah yeah yeah so um this one is
about the 2013 terrorist bombing of the Boston Marathon mhm which I still remember going back to then the this
horrible crime taking place and then it really took me a few days to even process what what happened there in
Boston it was such a strange terrorist attack and such a bizarre thing you know you're hearing about this the the first
bomb went off at 2:49 p.m. April 15th 2013 mhm and I think it wasn't until that Thursday that I fully wrapped my
head around it it was you know some sometimes these things are so shocking when you hear them on the news that it
takes a while to to Really set in and I didn't really know what to make of it well these are very
similar attacks to what was happening in Europe at the time so I think as far as
law enforcement they they kind of had had a better understanding of it than than our public because it wasn't
something that was happening uh in this manner like it was in Europe so three days
later the FBI released images of two suspects so now they're like hey these are the guys that we think did this this
is who we're we are looking for and then what takes place after that is the two brothers who who committed this bombing
amongst other crimes along the way they decide to carjack um well they don't carjack him
they I guess they were trying to get his gun or something they shot and killed a
MIT campus police officer mhm and then they carjacked this this other guy but what they were doing was they not only
did they carjack this guy they take him hostage but they're they're also continuing to drive their vehicle as
well in you know tandem driver situation this guy ends up being able to escape they make a stop somewhere and he
escapes his cell phone remained in his vehicle so now you have all these agencies that were working to find these
two guys they know who it is now and they can track their whereabouts because of this dude's cell phone now the
documentary itself inside the the hunt for the Boston bombers it was done on the National Geographic Channel and it
was fascinating to see how they were able to pinpoint where the the attacks took place at the marathon what time it
was who was in the area who was affected by it how can we get visuals of these people of the perpetrators and then
translate that into the actual Manhunt for what they were very obviously aware of fairly early on is two perpetrators a
minimum of two guys were involved in this thing well and also after the the initial attack the victims of the attack
that were recovering in the hospital the ones that were still alive were giving FBI and different law enforcement agents
the best descriptions of these individuals that they could MH and if anybody wants to see you know probably
have heard of the the movie stronger with uh Jake Gyllenhaal but it's it's one of the best
acting performances I think of that I've ever seen and and it has a lot to do with obviously U the Boston Marathon
bombing so by that Friday night you know just days later on that Friday night they they are
really honing in and closing in on these two guys and when I say they I mean think just about any agency you can
think of was pretty much involved you had the FBI you had uh ice you had the state police you had CIA I mean just
about anybody you can think of you had local police you had and oddly enough we just recently covered a case out of
Somerville when you had Somerville police and and the Boston City police everybody was involved in this it was
something crazy like um I don't know how many hundreds or maybe even thousands of
officers agents what have you were in that area and what it boils down to is about a 20 block radius search for these
guys and I remember watching this on a on a Friday night as it's happening there there were like camera crews in
the area watching everything because you had Somerville and you had Watertown that day they woke up to news flashes
and automated phone calls to the homes telling everybody to shelter in place stay in your homes because there's
danger in the area these terrorists are in the area not only they in the area we
are actively hunting them with guns drawn in your area so um it I thought that the the uh crime of course is
absolutely horrible but the The Manhunt and the technology and the way that they
hunted down these two guys I couldn't believe how fascinating it was and it's told best in my opinion in this um
documentary from the National Geographic Channel The Inside the hunt for the Boston bombers is my number
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you have your number five is what my number five is nightmare in Las cruus number four long shot number three
inside the hunt for the Boston bombers so my number five is Unsolved Mysteries but the first case Ray
Rivera number four is I love you now die number three is starring the crispy kernel the
lake the lake eie murders and I know that it was this is where it gets a little confusing for me
cuz I was even looking this up it looks like there was a a really L large series
mhm but the first three episodes are about the Amy mahalic case mhm and that's what I'm talking about the first
three episodes it was released in 2019 it was on the ID channel I believe you can find it right
now on Hulu I have watched this twice this was about Amy mahalic 10-year-old that went missing and murdered October
27th 1989 to see the actual footage this is a case that we've talked about extensively I've heard you in
conversations at crime con talking about this case extensively it's one that I've read a
lot about but to see the actual footage to see the actual interviews of people that I've only read about to actually
see see them was uh the main thing but also one of the reasons why I put it number three on the list is how much
information is presented and how they I I think they did just did a stellar job of breaking it down there's so many
possible suspects and they they do it in such a clear informative way but where you're
not getting bored the whole series is not actually rated yet on Rotten Tomatoes but on
IMDb it gets uh a 71% rating so the lake Eerie murders again crisp you get to see the crispy
konel yelling at the camera and and I think it's it's really good documentary yeah so the first three as you said kind
of kick off the whole thing and they're roughly what about an hour each you know
once you take out the commercials 45 minutes each we'll say and it's really just that Amy mahalic case is is one a
fascinating case it's well known in that region this region of the country and it
was it had never been it was almost shocking that it had not been done before a long form documentary about
that case MH I was very happy and honored to be a part of of that portion of it that really kicks off what is to
be all these other cases so for I've watched some of the actual episodes since that came out and I kind
of cherry-pick I know a lot of the cases in this region so often I'll I'll look for one that I know or recognize maybe
the victim's name but haven't really done any research on it and it's all kind of fascinating
stuff they do show some solved cases and that's interesting to me too I love when
people take unsolved stuff we don't have the answer and then oh sprinkle in a few
solved ones along the way so you can see how it got done or some of the cases went cold you know they went cold for
we're talking 8 nine 10 years right especially and some of these they look like they had somebody good for it they
look like they had a a good suspect and you know you have situations where it's either they just couldn't put them away
needed some more information or they had the wrong and that's why they didn't have the
information cuz there is no real evidence on this dude so years later you end up getting the case solved I think
it's a brilliant series again I've not watched all of them or or anywhere near all of them but from what I've seen I I
like it very much and and uh yeah I that was going to be an honorable mention for
me there Mr Captain yeah I just think it's very informative and if you're interested in that case even if you read
a lot about it you're going to learn something and you're going to get to see people that were involved all right so
number two your number two all right crispy Colonel number two I went with the uh
Atlanta's missing and murdered the Lost Children of course this is a pretty recent one this came out in 2020 it's on
HBO as we are having this conversation well it is my number two as well so oh how about that there you go okay it
happened it's five episodes long yes is I thought it to be easy to binge yeah I think some of the episodes are pretty
short 40 minutes long so it's a Elena is missing and murder the lost children it's the abduction and murder
of at least 30 africanamerican children and young adults in Atlanta Between 1979
and 1981 won it gets 94% on Rotten Tomatoes pretty good score very good score yeah it it was very
interesting it kept me involved the entire time I enjoyed it so much that I could have watched more episodes had
they made them I don't think that they left anything they not that they wanted me you know not that I felt that I was
unfulfilled you know not that I felt that uh they left some some big mozah balls out there and didn't didn't sum
them up I I felt that it was very thorough very well done I didn't agree I'm not going to lie to you Captain I
didn't agree with 30 or 40% of it but it was it was entertaining it was it was a fascinating
look at this at this case and it was HBO I mean HBO is kind of the gold standard
in my opinion for television and for entertainment and they did not they did not
um disappoint yeah here here's one of the reasons why I like this as a documentary it's not a All or Nothing
type documentary if you watch the first Paradise loss for example that's not a Allin documentary you can walk away
going well maybe these kids are guilty maybe they're innocent I'm not for sure by the time you get to the second part
of that documentary they're pretty Allin on the idea that they believe that these
teenagers are are innocent and that's what I mean by all-in documentary you see this also
with like making the murder and some other big documentaries I thought this was very well done they I
think they did a really good job of going back and forth from the old footage because I think sometimes that
stuff can you can get lost in the old footage if they don't present it a certain way
but I I think the thing I liked most about it was again it just it wasn't all or nothing even when they're arguing
certain points they they keep reiterating this is not to to prove that Wayne Williams is innocent of all the
crimes he just might be innocent of of a couple um and I really like that about about the documentary I also thought
that was really interesting how they would take those photographs and they would turn them into ink and they would
Fade Into the other photographs I thought it was yeah very well done and and and very similar to like with like
the Amy mivic the lake Eerie murders or I love you now die or even the Unsolved Mysteries I think what you're seeing on
my list is a bunch of documentaries that are not you know beat you over the head
that here's what we believe and you better think this when the documentary is over as opposed to how some other
documentary documentaries have been made uh so that's my number two as well yeah
it was very well put together it's a it's an easy watch because it is so informative and interesting you learn a
lot of things not only about the case but the city of Atlanta shortly before during and after the crimes took place
and even the trial of of Wayne Williams with which I believe didn't go down until like
83 maybe even ' 84 it was a while before he was actually at trial and sentenced but I'm I'm a big fan of Kesha Lance
bottoms the the mayor of Atlanta and I you know I'm I'm not Democrat I'm not Republican I'm a person
that identifies and identifies and recognizes people who I think are of good moral
character and interesting brilliant people and she I think is fascinating Atlanta's got a good mayor down there
she cares about this case she cares that I mean look technically like 28 maybe even 30 of these things aren't closed
cases right you know there there there's no conviction even though the FBI and even though the prosecutors said we're
going to try Wayne Williams on these two cases but oh we're going to link eight or n or 10 of these to him as well and
it seemed like on that day you know it was when they got a conviction on Wayne Williams yes it was a celebration for
the city that the monster they captured him the dragon has been slayed we've put
him away you feel really good that day but then very quickly afterwards you're going wait a second we got all these
cases that are technically unsolved right and so I think Kesha Lance bottoms is doing Gang Busters work down there in
Atlanta I think she's fantastic ftic and her going and saying you know what I'm encouraging the police to reopen these
cases and the police Atlanta Police Department have said yes we're going to do this and the Atlanta Police
Department even UPF front and center says look at the time when this was going on we didn't really know how to
investigate this we had um we had problems with uh our Police Department on on different things at that time too
and so this is an error that we are happy to jump in and Tred to correct so kudos to the Atlanta Police Department
kudos to Mayor bottoms and as said she was originally a prosecutor who represented children in
juvenile court in the early stages of her career she was a a Magistrate Judge at one point in Atlanta so getting back
to her Roots a little bit before uh her days as a mayor and I thought that one opening up this case again then this
allows HBO go to come in and get involved and document the the case as it was back then and update us on how the
community feels today some people that are new to the area some people that live through this some of them being law
enforcement or or family members of victims or or church leaders you know people that are important to this
community how they feel about it then and how they feel about it today and hopefully we'll continue to get some
progress in that case and and I think um I think the documentary brought up some
interesting questions uh one you know one thing it it pointed out to me Captain that I kind of forgot about
was the the racist family or brothers I don't have their their names in front of
me right here in my notes but Sanders yeah the the thing that that jumped off the screen to me when when I was
watching this documentary I was like oh yeah they they did cover that portion in
M Hunters yeah you know they they showed them questioning these racist brothers or or racist cousins or whatever they
were yeah they they were surveillance them for a long time and they brought them in for questioning I think twice
and and basically law enforcement during M Hunter was going you're wasting your time these guys they know the routine
you bring them down they'll answer a couple questions then they get their lawyer right CU they're career criminals
they're just career bad guys they do bad stuff they know how to duck and Dodge the police well and they're part of this
very powerful white supremacist group in Atlanta and it wasn't the KKK it was a branch it was kind of national list or I
don't have that name either who I didn't even when I see that type of ignorance I
don't even want to write down their organization name or or burn it to memory but it was also these
dudes and their their dealings were very much in the world of drugs as well they
were doing drugs they were dealing drugs and you know there were law enforcement
at the time that said these guys have been too hopped up on drugs to to get away with any of this business but it
does uh bring up some good interesting questions and it was a fantastic documentary still available on demand on
HBO so I I definitely obviously the captain is backing me on this one two thumbs up watch this one and the reason
why it's number two on my list is this is a case that I've never really been that into I I've read some stuff about
it we covered it here on the show but just never really thought about you know it's like
take a John Benet ramsy case how many times have you just randomly Googled stuff that you just wanted to know I
wonder did they ever ask the parents this I wonder if they ever asked her brother this this documentary was so
good that it has me going through the case again or just randomly Googling pieces of information to see what I can
find out about it it it does again a good job of giving you information from multiple sides not really pushing too
hard of an agenda other than these cases need to be solved and need to people need to spend time and attention on them
but um but I think it does a good job of of of hooking you into the case even more yeah and it was weird for me
because when it was coming out I was like oh look I'm not I've been I've been pretty open book about this anything
that HBO puts out I'm I'm slightly interested in just because I think they do such a good job right and so I was
going oh they're they're going to tackle this big huge case from back in the day
that intrigued me to see how they would do it but what didn't intrigue me was was the case selection because as you
said I was never that interested in this case in recent years because in my younger days I had I felt pretty well
informed about the case having got the information from Robert ke's book and from John Douglas's book and then A&E
covered it at one time and there was American Justice took a a new look at it several times over the year so I always
felt like you know this was one that's been done and time and time again been there done that but this is is very
worth worth the watch very worth the number two spot on both of our list is it okay Captain with you if I go to my
number one now yeah that's how it works that's how it works well I didn't know if you had anything else you wanted to
throw in there um number one for me this is from the Netflix world and and it came out in 2018 in May
of 2018 so this would have been just after we did our last list and it's called Evil Genius the
true story of America's most diabolical bank heist yeah this is one a case that fascinated me to begin with but then to
see that somebody was going to do a documentary on it and Netflix did a bang them up job I mean a fantastic job by
the netf people this is also a case that sometimes referred to as the collar bomb
or the pizza bomber case mhm and it was a four-part series the first episode was
the heist two was the frozen body three was the suspects and four was the confessions confessions so it was
interesting it's a bizarre case it's one of the most bizarre cases that I can think of
offhand and yes says from 2018 on Netflix and I consider that to be a must must watch that's your number one number
one number one propa number one okay so mine is this number one it it it's going
to get a little convoluted a little bit here so it starts off my number one starts off with a docu drama which we
didn't say was going to be on the list but it's called when they see us it was a four-part docu drama and it's about
the 1989 case of five aers wrongfully wrongfully convicted of raping a woman in Central Park now what happened
was I watched because of one of our lists you had the Central Park 5 on your list which is a Ken Burns and Sarah
Burns great documentary documentary and you said you got to watch this so I watched it it was about 2 hours long
it's great 92% on Rotten Tomatoes oo after I watched that there was um a lot of advertisements about when they see us
and I saw big back in the day Dawson's Creek fan Joshua Jackson plays one of the kids
attorneys and so believe it was on Netflix or HBO I don't know which one it's on actually but when I saw this
little preview with Joshua Jackson I said let me give this a shot yes I just watched this documentary about it but I
kind of want to see how they portray it in the first episode they take you into these
interrogations of these children mhm and I don't even know if they're over the top but it I think there's a thing about
the Central Park 5 documentary by Ken Burns that's a little sterile that's a little more informative and less uh
emotive this four-part series when they see us is probably more about the emotion and less about the actual facts
of the case well and that's that that's natural a docu drama you know dramatization when you when they see us
is Netflix I I just highly recommend it it might be in the top I don't know maybe three
most powerful things I've ever watched like it felt really important to be watching it and I think the first
episode is really good and I remember watching the first episode and and getting done with it and
you kind of get excited it's kind of like when you watch M Hunter for the first time or you watch you making a
murder for the first time you watch one episode and you went damn this is good what's next right but I already
thought I knew the story but once they get to part four it becomes basically all about Corey wise which is the one of
I believe the oldest that was charged and it was basically his story about how he ended up getting convicted
and what where he spent time and how he spent time and and then how his connections um brought new evidence to
this case and it's just one of the most powerful things I've ever seen uh on TV and these kids and these teenage actors
portraying things in such a way that you're just I mean it it was exhausting like when I got done I I felt better for
watching it but I felt exhausted and and it's also really sad that if you watch the the documentary
and then you watch this docu drama that there's still people out there that still think these kids are guilty of
this crime and and you know what that is just something that I don't know that I
don't how far we evolve or Advance ourselves I don't know that that ever goes away for some people that when you
have someone who confesses to a crime there's just some people that they can't get over well they confess to it why
would they confess to it if they didn't do it right you know some people will never be able to get over that and that
whatever I mean but refresh my memory because we put I put the um Central Park 5 movie on my list back in 2016 so it's
been four or five maybe longer years since I've seen it the way that I remember this going down was they
arrested these these kids who were quote unquote Hooligans running a muck in the
park right and they're like hey look the interrogators are hey dude we know that
you did this you and your friends did this because their your friends are telling us they did it and you were
involved now right you're going to be in big trouble unless you start telling us
who in the group did this and what they did and then so now you got kids making up stories against one
another and for but it wasn't even friends it was like well I said kids right but it would be not friends and
that that was the interesting thing some of these dudes kind of just knew each other from school but they weren't they
weren't boys you know they weren't they weren't best friends or or maybe even friends like you're saying right or some
of these people they didn't even know so when the when the detective comes in and
says hey by the way Charlie is is saying that you're the one that raped the girl
and gu's like like who's Charlie you know and there's a scene where this I mean there's just so many powerful
scenes but there's a scene where there was a kid that is really good at trumpet and he drop drops off his trumpet before
he goes into the Central Park that night and he's interrogated and there's a couple times that he asked for his
mother and it's just gut-wrenching and to know it's really important to see these things even if
it's just acted out to have a really good understanding of this is how the system is or was and this is how
sometimes these systems are created and it's our job to to have an understanding
of those so we can call that out as Injustice so anyways we got our top five I'll go over mine real quick UNS solve
Mysteries case number one number four I love you now die number three the lake Eerie murders number two Atlanta's
missing and murdered the lost children and then number one when they see us also the Central Park five by Ken
Burns and I went with number five nightmare in Las cruus number four long shot number three inside the hunt for
the Boston bombers at number two we both had the same selection and a mighty fine
one at that Atlanta's missing and murdered the lost children and for number one I went with Netflix's Evil
Genius all right do we have any notables well honorable mentions some of my honorable mentions were covered in
your your five um but one that jumps off the page to me was the innocent man and this was Netflix M and it's it's
a documentary well a series it's six episodes and this was from really that doesn't seem right it says it's from
2012 but that that can't be right it seems from oh no I'm sorry Netflix December
2018 I had the wrong thing there in my notes but it's John Grisham it's built around John grisham's 2006 book The
Innocent Man murder and Injustice in a small town yeah Ram he wrote what the firm rain maker well let let me look him
up I think that's right I mean they were both fictitious great great movies but uh the client the Pelican Brief the rain
maker yeah the firm The Firm yeah the firm is funny though the time to kill is a great movie he he just loves lawyer
movies and he loves to put them in the South that's his that's his uh bag of tricks but I watched The Firm the other
day and it it just doesn't hold up as well you know you know what does hold up a movie that I could watch a hundred
times the rain maker oh that's a great fantastic CLA D and uh Matt Damon so Danny deito oh he's great in that one uh
what's what were we talking about okay so one of the ones that should have been higher on my list or should have been I
guess on my list is the case against Adon Sayed which was a four-part documentary um HBO which you can find
out on HBO another one that I thought was pretty good now this is my oldest one on
the list was beware the Slender Man which is HBO as well another good one and then have you seen I'll be gone in
the dark okay which is HBO as well I was actually thinking about that on my way to the garage
today because I have watched the first episode but I got several more to go so we'll see here Captain does it make the
colonel list for next year let us know what you think go to True Crim garage.com or Instagram or our Facebook
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actually make time to dive into some documentaries that I've missed along the way so I always appreciate that and
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Lists for Blog Captain 1. When They See Us - Netflix / The Central Park Five - PBS/ Amazon 2. Atlanta’s Missing & Murdered - The Lost Children - HBO 3. The Lake Erie Murders - ID channel 4. I Love You, Now Die - HBO 5. Unsolved Mysteries - Episode #1 Rey Rivera - Netflix

Nic 1. Evil Genius - Netflix 2. Atlanta’s Missing & Murdered - The Lost Children - HBO 3. Inside the Hunt for the Boston Bombers - National Geographic / Amazon 4. Long Shot - Netflix 5. Nightmare in Las Cruces - Amazon

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